Brexit: Trade talks 'unlikely' to go beyond Sunday, says Dominic Raab
10/12/2020 | news | politics | 2,574
The EU has set out the measures it would take if no trade deal is agreed with the UK.
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10/12/2020 15:09:43 22 23
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Tory government failure

They promised Brexit was oven ready and done

That clearly was a lie

We must have a general election NOW

We can't leave with no deal with out one
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10/12/2020 15:11:23 5 14
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Not true. Watch and learn: https://mobile.twitter.com/addicted2newz/status/1336660145527459841

Now can we FINALLY put this myth to bed?
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10/12/2020 15:12:42 3 6
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Should be head the ball -A Corbyn supporter still licking his wounds
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10/12/2020 15:18:06 3 7
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Remainers want GE every year??
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10/12/2020 15:21:42 4 1
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The FT reported not long ago that hedge funds connected with Johnson stand to make something like nine billion pounds, but only if there's no deal.

So will he turn his back on the money and do something for the country by compromising and agreeing a deal with the EU? He's a Conservative and I can't imagine one of them turning down money, especially that much. So I'm guessing it'll be no deal.
10/12/2020 16:52:49 1 0
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No they promised the 'divorce' part was oven ready not the trade deal.
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10/12/2020 15:11:14 231 40
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But this is what the ERG wanted all along.

No crocodile tears please Mr Raab.
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10/12/2020 16:15:26 92 121
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I know, isn't it great !!!!

Onwards and upwards, there is a whole new world out there and we are now free to trade with it and explore it.
10/12/2020 16:51:00 2 4
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Leave first then negotiate. They need us more than we need them.
10/12/2020 17:10:05 1 0
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Raab is incapable of any tears at all - he only bleats when dictated by BoJo
10/12/2020 17:35:56 0 0
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Whats' ERG? Extremely Rabid Geriatrics maybe... Exceptionally Repugnant Gnomes? Extraordinarily Racist Gits? Maybe all of the foregoing... What an achievement for english democracy to fall for that. We should all be so proud.
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MVP
10/12/2020 15:11:20 17 25
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Trade talks unlikely to go beyond the weekend

And understandably so.

The EU has bent over backward but at the end of the day it is the UK that has chosen this path, not them. And they have better things to do with their time than continue these pointless meetings where the UK continues to flip and flop around.
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10/12/2020 15:12:31 13 7
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Can you give examples of them bending over backwards?
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10/12/2020 15:14:21 2 3
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Absolute twaddle!
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Liz
10/12/2020 15:15:20 3 1
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May I remind you that Scotland voted NOT to leave EU, it is unfortunate that we are still part of the so called UK
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10/12/2020 15:16:30 1 3
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I heard the 3 sticking points , they want access to our waters , (they Want)
They want no funding of our own companies making us cheaper (They Want)
Who will Police it , lets ask the Russians to police it shall we nobody can police it we will not check up on them and if we want to make our goods cheaper so what that is what leaving means
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10/12/2020 15:18:17 2 2
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No, they haven't.

They wish to - uniquely in their trade agreements - abrogate the provisions of UNCLOS and expand the jurisdiction of the ECJ to a single "third country" (that'll be us then).

Those are competencies that can only be exercised by a sovereign nation. Which is why (quite rightly) HMG are refusing to accede to these demands.
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10/12/2020 15:09:43 22 23
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Tory government failure

They promised Brexit was oven ready and done

That clearly was a lie

We must have a general election NOW

We can't leave with no deal with out one
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10/12/2020 15:11:23 5 14
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Not true. Watch and learn: https://mobile.twitter.com/addicted2newz/status/1336660145527459841

Now can we FINALLY put this myth to bed?
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10/12/2020 15:23:56 5 1
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If it takes someone to pull apart what someone says to make it clearer, then what that person said was not clear.

"We have an oven ready withdrawal agreement to allow us to then work on the trade agreement in due course"

would have been easier to understand. But they never said it that way. They wrapped up into 1 "oven ready deal" and tacked on the trade deal bit under their breath!
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10/12/2020 15:28:15 0 3
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Very well put
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10/12/2020 15:10:57 9 10
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Jacob rhys mogg, Doris, Cummings, your boys took one hell of a beating
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10/12/2020 15:11:54 168 36
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Well, if Raab said it, then it must be true. Incidentally, has he fully understood our reliance on the Dover-Calais crossing yet? Or figured out that if Martin Luther King took the knee in the 1960s then it probably wasn't invented by the TV series Games of Thrones.
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10/12/2020 15:32:07 54 6
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Was he one of the Knights who say Knee?
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10/12/2020 15:47:09 0 5
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Game of Thrones is based on a series of novels by George R.R. Martin.
10/12/2020 16:43:55 0 4
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He did take the knee then that to was hijacked. Do you think these footballers taking the knee but also raise the clenched fist understand how racist that is.
10/12/2020 17:29:37 0 0
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Fink it's Feudal. Tories all over that one....
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10/12/2020 15:12:03 24 19
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'unlikely' to go beyond Sunday , so why have them

even with no deal France still want our fish , and are worried things will be cheaper coming from the UK / Ireland ,
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10/12/2020 15:17:51 32 14
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They're not "our" fish, they do not consider themselves British, they live in the ocean and move around.
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10/12/2020 15:31:25 0 1
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"'unlikely' to go beyond Sunday , so why have them "

I'm going to have dinner tonight, even though I don't expect that to last into next week.
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10/12/2020 15:44:46 1 1
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Do fish consider themselves British or French? I thought they were free to swim wherever they like.
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10/12/2020 15:12:07 185 89
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i hope in 5-10 years time, we can take the Boris/Nigel to court over telling the country lies over Brexit
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10/12/2020 15:14:36 95 9
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In that case better prepare a legal case against thousands of mps past and present
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10/12/2020 15:16:20 6 9
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?? joke of the century
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10/12/2020 15:16:25 9 5
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Why wait, get the b****d now
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10/12/2020 15:13:27 4 11
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i hope we can take you to court for telling lies.
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10/12/2020 15:35:23 5 4
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We will be up **** creek by then

Too damn late
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10/12/2020 15:45:14 4 9
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Cameron sent his leaflet saying what Brexit meant, leave the EU means no single market, no customs union. Despite you remoaners take on it, we knew what we were voting for. Get over it FFS
634
10/12/2020 15:59:44 2 8
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I hope by Janurary we can begin to dismantle the Left Wing autocracy which infests UK politics and media.

Cannot wait for it.
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10/12/2020 16:13:52 5 2
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Before that happens perhaps Blair will be taken to court for all his lies over the war in Iraq and doing deals with Gaddafi in the North African desert. of course not
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10/12/2020 16:24:43 1 0
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That is never going to happen. Politicians will never enact a law to make their lying illegal. Anyway what about the lies in Indyref1: leave the UK and you will be out of the EU; stay in the UK and you will not only be in the EU, you will be part of one of its most powerful countries.
Removed
10/12/2020 16:34:58 0 1
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I hope in 5/10 minutes time, you will stop posting nonsense.
10/12/2020 16:44:10 0 0
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When are you going to learn, Politicians only tell half truths.
10/12/2020 16:52:36 0 1
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Didn't you do that already. How did that work out for you. Thankyou Gina Miller.
10/12/2020 17:17:21 0 0
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Can I take Ted Heath to Court for the disaster that was joining in the first place?
10/12/2020 17:24:36 0 0
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I think Soros will have passed away by then.Perhaps Gina could crowd-fund?
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10/12/2020 15:12:30 259 116
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It's either an extension or the Tories ruin the economy, which they will never be forgiven for.

Whatever happens, it's good riddance to Bojo.
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10/12/2020 15:27:42 150 127
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Really i think 52% would be quite happy if he doesn't take a knee and sign away our Rights
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10/12/2020 15:30:40 15 2
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Well to be fair Boris said 15th October if there was no agreement done, so he's not beyond extending.
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10/12/2020 15:56:19 1 18
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Good ridance to Left Wing politics via the EU.
773
10/12/2020 16:11:56 8 2
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Sadly, the British voter will forget and vote them in again. The Tories ruined the economy during the 1980's but people forget. I'm 75 so I still remember.
10/12/2020 16:30:46 2 1
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I wouldn't bank on it. He has an 80 seat majority and no election before 2024.
10/12/2020 16:41:37 0 0
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Wrong and wrong again.....keep on dreaming matey.
10/12/2020 16:45:52 0 1
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Tell me who ran away to make in excess of 30million in a few years having "given" his unelectable chum the job only to sell the family silver and run away
10/12/2020 16:50:47 1 3
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You're probably right. NuLabour ruined the economy in 2009 and we're never going to forgive them for that.
10/12/2020 16:55:09 2 1
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He not performed well with brexit or covid bozo Johnson gotta go
10/12/2020 16:55:42 1 2
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And replaced by who? I think the tories will still win the next election. Thats the damage Corbyn did to the labour party.
10/12/2020 17:18:46 0 0
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Pensioners, unemployed and self employed tax dodgers don't care about the economy. That's why they voted for Brexit.
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MVP
10/12/2020 15:11:20 17 25
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Trade talks unlikely to go beyond the weekend

And understandably so.

The EU has bent over backward but at the end of the day it is the UK that has chosen this path, not them. And they have better things to do with their time than continue these pointless meetings where the UK continues to flip and flop around.
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10/12/2020 15:12:31 13 7
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Can you give examples of them bending over backwards?
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10/12/2020 15:26:53 3 2
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The EU are not obliged to agree to any deal as we left the EU not the other way around.

We requested one once we voted leave due to the penny dropping that we had shot ourselves in the foot and other more sensitive areas - BoJo knows that both the UK economy and his job are now on the line so he has'nt walked away like he said he would... Oh dear what a mess....
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10/12/2020 15:09:43 22 23
bbc
Tory government failure

They promised Brexit was oven ready and done

That clearly was a lie

We must have a general election NOW

We can't leave with no deal with out one
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10/12/2020 15:12:42 3 6
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Should be head the ball -A Corbyn supporter still licking his wounds
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Les
10/12/2020 15:12:42 48 32
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Bojo, another fine mess you've got us into. Please go and take your scheming mob with you.
10/12/2020 16:55:12 4 4
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You can vote Johnson's government out, but you can't do that with Von Der Leyen and the EU crowd. They are unelected dictators. That's why we voted to leave.
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10/12/2020 15:12:48 4 11
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No chance! Boris immediately rejects EU's no deal fishing proposal - 'Taking back control'

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1370839/brexit-news-eu-uk-trade-deal-talks-fishing-boris-johnson-michel-barnier
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10/12/2020 15:15:00 18 3
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How embarrassing it must be to take the Daily Express seriously. It's even more ironic since its owner lives in France.
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10/12/2020 15:31:04 1 1
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'Taking back control'

Says the guy who who celebrating us dropping tariffs on US goods yesterday, whilst they gave us absolutely nothing in return. Taking back control - to surrender our sovereignty to whoever we choose ??
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10/12/2020 15:12:56 202 77
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Bunter can’t cope with a strong woman who is better qualified and more intelligent than him. Waffle and bluster don’t work.

What if find annoying, is the Tory’s say they will walk away with a no deal Brexit because they will not be effected because of their wealth. The rest of us will be screwed.
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10/12/2020 15:45:46 77 101
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You'd rather an un-fair deal?

You seem slightly blinkered by your pro-EU views.

Then again it's the same rubbish on each of the 3-4 HYS's on Brexit every single day.
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10/12/2020 16:15:55 6 6
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Ursula Von der Leyan is hardly a strong, well qualified women. She has failed in every job she has held and is still ridiculed for the mess she made as German defence minister (hence the shove to Brussels).
Affected, not "effected" - ignoramus Removed
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10/12/2020 16:23:48 1 0
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You have no need to worry, Border Collie. Those with wealth (and quite a few of those without) will be the ones having to give big chunks of that wealth up to pay for the covid spending. Things are going to get very messy once the Treasury turns its attention to getting the economy balanced again. Very messy. But getting the economy balanced again is essential.
10/12/2020 16:31:55 0 1
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What woman are you referring to?
10/12/2020 16:46:56 0 0
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You're right, he can't deal with a strong Woman. That's why when the Tory party sack him, they'll select Priti Patel to be the new PM. Then you'll have her for another 4 years and another term after that. Just the way it goes I'm afraid.
10/12/2020 17:04:25 0 0
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What's with the Bunter, he has a name.
10/12/2020 17:10:39 0 0
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C'mon Boris, stamp your feet and burst into tears. It worked with Nanny. It worked with Matron at Eton. It worked with the Admissions Tutor at Balliol or whichever seat of guaranteed earning(s) you bought yourself into. Do these foreign johnnies not understand what makes this great nation of ours tick?
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jon
10/12/2020 15:12:57 86 71
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No independent country would accept future laws in which they have no say in the making. The UK has offered a generous free trade deal worth far more to the EU than the UK. It has been rejected by Brussels, not for trading reasons but for political reasons. The fact that the EU has published these delayed contingency plans means they have already accepted no-deal. Time to diverge, which they hate
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10/12/2020 15:17:42 70 7
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Brexit was always about politics never about economics
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10/12/2020 15:18:35 13 3
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Do you believe everything every dodgy spiv tells you? Or just the ones that stand up in Parliament, or get paid by off-shore newspaper owners, to spin their lies?
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10/12/2020 15:36:52 11 3
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Switzerland and Norway are both not in EU, but agree to the rules for the benefit of a free trade deal without the expense of full membership. So you are wrong.
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10/12/2020 15:47:51 7 5
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You do realise that before we left we -did- have a say in making the rules?

And you really expect the EU to help us now we have left?

Must be a nice planet you live on - shame the rest of us don't!
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10/12/2020 15:51:49 6 4
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Sorry but your ignorance of what constitutes fair free trade deal and also what the EU rules are and why they have them is shocking, but then you a brexiter.
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10/12/2020 16:07:19 3 1
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We had a say in making those laws, but we've decided to give up and walk away. Now we have no say in the rules which govern our continent.

Our choice, our consequences.
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10/12/2020 16:09:29 5 1
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But you are going to be perfectly happy with a US trade deal that requires the UK to clear any other trade agreements with the US State Department, and which extends the jurisdiction of US domestic courts to UK citizens (as it will, because that is what the US wanted in the TTIP). You do not even want a vote on any trade deal struck by Bojo and his chums, do you? They are your heroes, after all.
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10/12/2020 16:11:55 3 2
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I think as soon as the blame game starts from Boris & co we shall see the EU releasing minutes of the meetings, why?
Because they are fed up with UK politicians telling lies and blaming the EU.
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10/12/2020 16:21:51 2 0
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No independent country would accept future laws in which they have no say in the making. Agreed. The EU will be independent of the UK, and free to make or change its rules. If we don't like its new rules, then it's our problem not theirs.
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10/12/2020 16:22:44 1 0
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How factually incorrect can you be. Where have you been these last 4 years! Diverge, by all means, but face the consequences.
10/12/2020 16:58:10 1 0
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Note the fishing contingency proposal, looks like their demands now. Propose fishing access reciprical to UK and EU waters for one year or until an agreement is reached. Those 5 words are telling.
xlr
10/12/2020 17:45:37 2 0
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This double standard from Brexiteers drives me spare.

The Internal Markets Bill was forced past the devolved admins, who voted against it, and against the whole principle of consent. Brexiteers: "That's what the majority want, suck it jocks."

Brexiteers don't give a flying haddock about sovereignty. Once the next Labour government is in, they'll be ranting about "mob rule by the unwashed".
10/12/2020 18:05:31 0 0
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'The UK has offered a generous free trade deal ' ! Ha ha ha you couldn't make it up (unless you're Jon). You just don't get it do you ? The EU does NOT need us. The Single Market is far more important. Remember, propaganda is most dangerous when you believe your own !
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10/12/2020 15:12:57 15 13
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Surely it's time to double check (via a referendum - not a GE) what the people of this country want to do about this?
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10/12/2020 15:14:50 7 8
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We should have them every Thursday, just to check we are up to date
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10/12/2020 15:15:09 3 2
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Waste of time and money
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10/12/2020 15:14:23 3 7
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Absolutely not.
You lost 4 times already not going through it again.
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10/12/2020 15:24:13 1 4
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Do you perhaps think that asking for one on HYS is the key to actually getting a referendum? Oh you poor thing.
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10/12/2020 15:13:29 3 12
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Remainers. Short the £

50x leverage.

Loot the leavers pension pots (if they have them)
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10/12/2020 15:23:10 0 1
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No sound pension fund has invested in cash accounts for over 5 years now.
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10/12/2020 15:34:13 1 1
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No, that'll be what Johnson, Rees-Mogg et al. will be doing.
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10/12/2020 15:13:37 18 26
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I voted to join the club 30-odd years ago. It went out of control and I voted to leave the club. Four years on we are still tied to the apron strings. How do we ever get free of these EU dictators?
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10/12/2020 15:16:18 17 6
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For a start, they're not dictators.

Now, in calm, sensible terms, kindly explain the benefits of leaving. We're still waiting to hear them.
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10/12/2020 15:19:18 6 3
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If they're such dictators and they need our membership money so much, how did we ever have a vote to leave in the first place?
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10/12/2020 15:28:43 3 1
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“Four years on we are still tied to the apron strings.”

I thought we left in January. At least that’s what your fellow separatists keep telling us.
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10/12/2020 15:29:01 4 1
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"I voted to join the club"

And yet brexiteers keep telling remainers that once you've had a vote, the argument is over.
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10/12/2020 15:34:11 1 1
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30 years ago? don't you mean 47 years ago, bit of a difference
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10/12/2020 15:13:45 362 154
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We left. We wanted access to the club house. We don't want to abide by the rules of the club house. We stomp asking them to abide by our rules.

It's a wonder they didn't shut down the negotiations sooner! We must look like a wailing 3 year old to them.

So much for the oven ready deal...but I suppose oven ready meals are usually a bit nasty.
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10/12/2020 15:21:10 249 257
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The EU’s inability to recognize the UK as an independent state and the possible outcome will likely further weaken an already extremely fragile construct.

All we want is fair reciprocal free trade as offered to other countries around the world. Our vicinity is irrelevant.
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10/12/2020 15:21:46 34 7
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3 year olds are often more sure about what they want and the best way to get it.
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10/12/2020 15:24:14 23 34
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They want access to our club house and also they want dictate how it is run. No one with any sense would agree to that.
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10/12/2020 15:27:18 27 22
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Sorry but the club analogy is a bad one. We’re seeking a mutually beneficial trade deal.
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10/12/2020 15:28:11 35 9
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Yep. If I stopped being a member of the National Trust, I wouldn't still expect to get into their properties for free, then ask for eleven months when I could do so in any case, then get angry when they said the arrangement would come to an end as agreed.
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10/12/2020 15:42:21 3 8
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For such an intelligent educated bunch, the reliance on over-simplistic analogies to make a point undermines the undoubted intellectual rigour and analysis that has gone into forming the opinions they express

The "club house" is the only group of countries trying to merge political union before monetary union - if it succeeds it will be the first where all others have failed.

Good luck to them.
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10/12/2020 15:47:15 4 9
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Not really, the EU feel they need to control every little detail of any country that it deems a threat, and the UK is now a threat,
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10/12/2020 15:49:56 2 4
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Get real, your post is pathetic.
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10/12/2020 15:55:38 1 6
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Another fabricated Left Wing rule.

No I don't want to be part of the EU.

That's why I voted Leave.
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10/12/2020 16:00:21 2 5
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It was oven ready but the EU didn't want to stick it in the oven and turn the gas

Next
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10/12/2020 16:00:53 3 5
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That’s absolute drivel. And comes from a dual (EU member) and U.K. national. The deal being sought is a *trade* deal. The rules of the club - as you describe them - apply to club members only, nor trade partners. Did the EU require compliance to said rules of Japan or Canada? No. So why does it of the UK? That has nothing to do with trade. It’s indefensible, irrational and politically motivated.
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10/12/2020 16:08:17 2 4
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Other way round. The EU want us to abide by their rules, not only that but if sometime in the future the EU change a law, we should to. Listen to the French on fishing and you get the gist of how the EU think. You had a referendum, we had no say in it! Said this live on air. Then equally daft, yes the waters are yours but the fish in those waters aren't. Fish are not but scallops are apparently.
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10/12/2020 16:10:20 1 4
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What we dont expect is for them to tell us how to live in our own house.
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10/12/2020 16:10:56 1 4
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WHo care what you or the EU think? . YOU and the Eu are an irrelevance. They cannot fish in our waters any more and eat uk scallops and turbot in Brussels after the 21st . Victory
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10/12/2020 16:12:43 2 1
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Please I know some sentient three year olds...
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10/12/2020 15:13:52 430 168
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We were promised a great deal by Bozo. If he fails to deliver it, his position is untenable.
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VSA
10/12/2020 15:16:19 256 489
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No deal is a great deal.
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10/12/2020 15:32:57 16 46
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So nothing to do with unreasonable demands from the other side then? Life isn’t as black and white as you think.
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10/12/2020 15:35:24 13 30
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Untenable with who? Failing to make a deal won't collapse a government. He'd win any confidence vote in parliament and he wouldn't have to resign just because socialist plants in the remain camp think they deserve a scalp. Pointless hyperbole. However I expect this post will still be highest rated in 6 hours time when upvoted by all the multiple account remainers and BBC Mod Bots.
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10/12/2020 15:35:35 32 6
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UK sovereignty vs the integrity of the single market.... same as in 2017. We finally face the inevitable cliff edge after years of putting it off. On top of that, BoJo kicked the reasonable voices out of your party and left the ideologists. The chances of success are slim.
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10/12/2020 15:40:25 13 3
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The amount of Tory politicians whose positions are untenable seems to be mounting up, but they're still there. I don't want to speculate about what someone needs to do to actually get sacked from this terrible government.
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10/12/2020 15:43:08 1 10
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Oh, please don't be so silly.
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10/12/2020 15:45:38 6 16
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Give it a rest ... I know you would sign up to whatever the EU wants but not everyone votes Labour.
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10/12/2020 15:49:01 11 3
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Do you really think Boris will resign because he was caught lying and breaking promises.
That is exactly the means by which he got elected in the first place.
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10/12/2020 15:58:59 3 8
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Why. UK offered to take the same deal as Canada, EU refused (only reason for that is not reckognising the UK as fully independent). Then UK offered fishing rights split 50-50 (no other independent Country would come close to that), no the EU wanted exactly the same as prior to our exit. They then wanted us to standardise our rules/laws with theirs. Interpretation = Still in the EU. Facts.
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10/12/2020 15:59:04 2 2
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Funnily enough I suspect it is actually precisely the reverse

If he caves in his position is untenable.
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10/12/2020 16:01:50 2 8
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He has already delivers what he promised
He promised we would leave and we did , in January,he promised nothing else.
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MVP
10/12/2020 15:11:20 17 25
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Trade talks unlikely to go beyond the weekend

And understandably so.

The EU has bent over backward but at the end of the day it is the UK that has chosen this path, not them. And they have better things to do with their time than continue these pointless meetings where the UK continues to flip and flop around.
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10/12/2020 15:14:21 2 3
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Absolute twaddle!
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10/12/2020 15:14:32 19 26
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EU: The UK can leave as long as they do what we say.. Bu@@€r off EU
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10/12/2020 15:17:53 2 2
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Little thought it seems.
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10/12/2020 15:31:17 0 1
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The former "U"K didn't vote to leave... england did. So long, england... don't let the door hit you as you leave (or let it... you deserve it.)
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10/12/2020 15:33:03 0 1
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We have left, the EU are offering us a solution to the chaos we have created at no extra cost - a bargain
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10/12/2020 15:12:07 185 89
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i hope in 5-10 years time, we can take the Boris/Nigel to court over telling the country lies over Brexit
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10/12/2020 15:14:36 95 9
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In that case better prepare a legal case against thousands of mps past and present
10/12/2020 16:36:10 0 0
bbc
Yes, and all the previous Prime Ministers and ministers who told us lies about the European treaties.
10/12/2020 17:28:06 0 0
bbc
That makes it right, doesn't it :)
16
10/12/2020 15:12:57 15 13
bbc
Surely it's time to double check (via a referendum - not a GE) what the people of this country want to do about this?
24
10/12/2020 15:14:50 7 8
bbc
We should have them every Thursday, just to check we are up to date
47
10/12/2020 15:17:51 7 3
bbc
It's been 4 years and they haven't been able to deliver what was promised - asking the people directly about it hardly seems extravagant.
13
10/12/2020 15:12:48 4 11
bbc
No chance! Boris immediately rejects EU's no deal fishing proposal - 'Taking back control'

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1370839/brexit-news-eu-uk-trade-deal-talks-fishing-boris-johnson-michel-barnier
25
10/12/2020 15:15:00 18 3
bbc
How embarrassing it must be to take the Daily Express seriously. It's even more ironic since its owner lives in France.
16
10/12/2020 15:12:57 15 13
bbc
Surely it's time to double check (via a referendum - not a GE) what the people of this country want to do about this?
26
10/12/2020 15:15:09 3 2
bbc
Waste of time and money
57
10/12/2020 15:18:29 5 1
bbc
Less time and money than have been wasted over the past 4 years though - by a very long way.
261
10/12/2020 15:36:17 2 1
bbc
What the Tory government.....I agree
3
MVP
10/12/2020 15:11:20 17 25
bbc
Trade talks unlikely to go beyond the weekend

And understandably so.

The EU has bent over backward but at the end of the day it is the UK that has chosen this path, not them. And they have better things to do with their time than continue these pointless meetings where the UK continues to flip and flop around.
27
Liz
10/12/2020 15:15:20 3 1
bbc
May I remind you that Scotland voted NOT to leave EU, it is unfortunate that we are still part of the so called UK
10/12/2020 17:33:37 0 0
bbc
May we remind you, that Scotland - because it isn't an independent nation - didn't get it's own vote on whether to leave or not. It got the same vote the rest of the UK did, on the same terms.

It's a bit like Glasgow saying it should be independent because it voted for it in the IndyRef, when the rest of Scotland didn't.
28
10/12/2020 15:15:22 105 43
bbc
" Trade talks unlikely to go much beyond Sunday "
Bit like Bozo's Premiership ....
307
10/12/2020 15:40:11 55 15
bbc
one hopes
424
10/12/2020 15:47:21 1 5
bbc
Erm, think that's wishful thinking.

Just like the constant shouting for the democratic vote not to be acted upon over the last 4 years.

Maybe the negotiations would have been less fraught had they actually started 4yrs ago?
644
10/12/2020 16:03:16 0 8
bbc
PM until 2029 if it is No deal.
10/12/2020 16:45:32 0 4
bbc
You may find that with an 80 seat majority and no election until 2024, Boris will be around for a while yet.

Hard luck, mate.
10/12/2020 18:37:24 0 1
bbc
If Boris, Gove etc have any honour they will resign as soon as a deal falls through, as that was what they promised the people who voted for them. But then politicians have no honour, so we will have to listen to them until the next election.
29
10/12/2020 15:15:38 10 11
bbc
Looks like the UK needs to learn to shop/sell elsewhere for goods and services. We also should learn to accept British products over European ones, at least until we have shopping arrangements elsewhere. There is a price to pay to for everything, paying into and abiding by an EU clubs laws, or getting on our bike and going elsewhere
107
10/12/2020 15:24:03 2 2
bbc
Trouble is EU wants to stop us doing that!
10/12/2020 16:26:28 0 0
bbc
Buy British or none EU its what i do , My fruit none of it is EU , my Coffee and coca for chocolate again not EU. Even Aldi says they use British produce . I'm still trying to find that banana plantation in the EU though and the pineapple farm. My cheap grapes from asda are Peru

NHS has always taken Asians , the Dr's are Indian and Nurse Philippian they are nice and naturally care.
10/12/2020 16:29:33 0 0
bbc
you can drink your English wine if u want I'm sticking with Chianti.
30
10/12/2020 15:15:38 15 20
bbc
If the people voted for Brexit and to take back control of our laws and waters, why is the BBC surprised that we have rejected a proposal by the EU that will keep us in lockstep with their future laws in perpetuity?

Sometime I wonder about the BBC and it's objectivity?
60
10/12/2020 15:18:44 8 3
bbc
What 'laws'? If you're referring to export regulations, we have to be in 'lockstep' with the import regulations of any country we export to.
73
10/12/2020 15:20:59 0 3
bbc
Sometimes?
178
10/12/2020 15:29:11 2 1
bbc
Sometimes the rest of us wonder about the intelligence of the average provincial english voter. No, wait, we were right, the average provincial english voter was duped... or lied.
31
10/12/2020 15:15:44 7 14
bbc
Brilliant hardball #rulebritannia
162
10/12/2020 15:27:57 0 3
bbc
So "hardball" is the president elect of the USA saying 'No hard border in Ireland' and england caving in and saying, 'yes your mightiness' we didn't think of that and then doing what it's told. Yeah, that's hard... Just like england being hard over Suez... Dead hard. Emphasis on dead.
32
10/12/2020 15:15:45 9 18
bbc
Thank god we left. If we stayed on for few more years it would be more complicated.
114
10/12/2020 15:24:39 1 3
bbc
Is that a fact? No, another brextremist lie and absolute delusion
441
10/12/2020 15:48:11 0 1
bbc
I look forward to rejoining and finally accepting the euro, Schengen and no opt-outs; and watching gammons explode.
33
10/12/2020 15:15:45 4 10
bbc
No problem, house prices are rising even in deepest recession... UK is doing fine... like the government given stamp duty holiday even to the buy to let investors, please give tax holiday to all the citizens to be fair to all
106
10/12/2020 15:23:59 1 1
bbc
"It's only a flesh wound..."
131
10/12/2020 15:26:05 0 1
bbc
We're not in a recession.
185
10/12/2020 15:30:34 0 1
bbc
Everything is OK, keep shopping - whilst stocks last.
34
10/12/2020 15:15:55 12 22
bbc
Brexit: Trade talks 'unlikely' to go beyond Sunday, says Dominic Raab

Good.

31/12/20 - Brexit done as promised
??????
53
10/12/2020 15:18:08 3 2
bbc
Yes good indeed. Can we just get on with our CoViD stricken existences now and move on, because there is more to life than this stuff...
95
10/12/2020 15:23:26 0 2
bbc
As if Dominic Roob could be believed - how enchanting brextremists are... ready to clutch at the frailest straws and put their warped faith in unicorns. Silly blighters.
173
10/12/2020 15:28:48 0 1
bbc
UK SHAFTED AS PLANNED
18
10/12/2020 15:13:37 18 26
bbc
I voted to join the club 30-odd years ago. It went out of control and I voted to leave the club. Four years on we are still tied to the apron strings. How do we ever get free of these EU dictators?
35
10/12/2020 15:16:18 17 6
bbc
For a start, they're not dictators.

Now, in calm, sensible terms, kindly explain the benefits of leaving. We're still waiting to hear them.
93
10/12/2020 15:23:01 1 4
bbc
Not paying for the madness that sees them shuffle between Brussels and Strasbourg to appease the French for a start. That was costing at least 114 million euros back in 2014. I hate to think what it is now. Just a tiny benefit, but a benefit nonetheless. https://www.cityam.com/eu-parliament-lavishes-114m-year-moving-brussels-strasbourg/
8
10/12/2020 15:12:07 185 89
bbc
i hope in 5-10 years time, we can take the Boris/Nigel to court over telling the country lies over Brexit
36
10/12/2020 15:16:20 6 9
bbc
?? joke of the century
20
10/12/2020 15:13:52 430 168
bbc
We were promised a great deal by Bozo. If he fails to deliver it, his position is untenable.
37
VSA
10/12/2020 15:16:19 256 489
bbc
No deal is a great deal.
72
10/12/2020 15:20:22 132 13
bbc
If no deal is such a great deal, why does anybody ever bother with trade deals?
127
10/12/2020 15:25:41 132 18
bbc
How can it be a great “deal” if there isn’t a deal? Sums up Brexiteer “intellect” ??
145
10/12/2020 15:26:57 76 10
bbc
Go on, please enlighten us
177
10/12/2020 15:29:08 94 15
bbc
Anything that makes other peoples lives miserable is a good deal for a Brexiter
203
10/12/2020 15:31:59 37 8
bbc
And that is a very unworthy and silly comment
228
10/12/2020 15:33:56 15 58
bbc
correct
265
10/12/2020 15:36:35 34 9
bbc
No deal means food is 10% more expensive, cars 18% more expensive. What sort of idiot wants to pay more for stuff? Sorry that is if they can even get in our ports with their manual paperwork. It takes a certain sort of special to want all of this!
266
10/12/2020 15:36:43 18 6
bbc
Forget to take your meds today? ??
281
Cat
10/12/2020 15:38:05 28 4
bbc
Unless you work for Nissan Sunderland
311
10/12/2020 15:40:29 10 2
bbc
Only for those without a job!
325
10/12/2020 15:41:51 4 3
bbc
Nothing to lose, then... So why should we believe a loser?
376
10/12/2020 15:45:13 10 2
bbc
No deal is a great deal if you can profit from it, like the hedge funds connected with Johnson that will make around nine billion pounds if no deal is the result.
399
10/12/2020 15:46:12 13 4
bbc
How do you work that one out? No Deal puts many thousands of Engineering and Manufacturing jobs in the Uk, especially within Companies that are owned by foreign companies? How do you reconcile the loss of these jobs over your own ideology? A Blue Passport printed in france (which will cost you more) will not pay the mortgage or put food on the table.
593
Trs
10/12/2020 15:59:36 7 4
bbc
Clown.
602
10/12/2020 16:00:13 6 3
bbc
Genuine question: how so?
637
10/12/2020 16:02:21 7 2
bbc
A good deal for the disaster capitalists, a disaster for anyone else.
8
10/12/2020 15:12:07 185 89
bbc
i hope in 5-10 years time, we can take the Boris/Nigel to court over telling the country lies over Brexit
38
10/12/2020 15:16:25 9 5
bbc
Why wait, get the b****d now
3
MVP
10/12/2020 15:11:20 17 25
bbc
Trade talks unlikely to go beyond the weekend

And understandably so.

The EU has bent over backward but at the end of the day it is the UK that has chosen this path, not them. And they have better things to do with their time than continue these pointless meetings where the UK continues to flip and flop around.
39
10/12/2020 15:16:30 1 3
bbc
I heard the 3 sticking points , they want access to our waters , (they Want)
They want no funding of our own companies making us cheaper (They Want)
Who will Police it , lets ask the Russians to police it shall we nobody can police it we will not check up on them and if we want to make our goods cheaper so what that is what leaving means
40
10/12/2020 15:16:49 9 16
bbc
A sensible thing to do was to delay the transition by a little bit to allow for better conditions to negotiate given the pandemic, and the importance of a trade deal on both sides, but dogma seems to trump logic
63
10/12/2020 15:19:18 10 3
bbc
No it wouldn't be. All that would do is leave us paying in for longer and reaching this exact same point at the end of the extended period instead of now. They have all had plenty of time.
158
10/12/2020 15:27:46 0 2
bbc
That would require the tories to have some sense and clearly, on the subject of the EU, they don't.
41
10/12/2020 15:16:54 16 24
bbc
It would appear on today’s HYS the remoaners are back out beating their drum
Well come what may it’ll all be over soon for you so I’m afraid you’ll just have to deal with it and accept the reality and move on in life.
80
10/12/2020 15:21:29 3 3
bbc
Always banging the drum for reason and decency and against obduracy and stupidity. One day you'll get the message... even you.
81
10/12/2020 15:21:40 0 2
bbc
I'm past caring about what they think. You'd imagine that they'd have realised that they have been wrong about everything for over 4 years now. Probably not though, what with totally lacking internal monologue or ability to self reflect..
42
10/12/2020 15:17:10 9 4
bbc
Sort it you clowns????????
43
10/12/2020 15:13:25 15 18
bbc
BREXIT IS BUSTED

BRITAIN IS BUSTED

JOBS ARE BUSTED
126
10/12/2020 15:24:31 3 2
bbc
Brexit has happened.
Trade deal has not. Keep up.
8
10/12/2020 15:12:07 185 89
bbc
i hope in 5-10 years time, we can take the Boris/Nigel to court over telling the country lies over Brexit
44
10/12/2020 15:13:27 4 11
bbc
i hope we can take you to court for telling lies.
469
10/12/2020 15:50:21 4 2
bbc
If saying "I hope 'something'" is illegal, does that mean you are guilty too, or is it one law for the brexiteers and one for the rest of us?
15
jon
10/12/2020 15:12:57 86 71
bbc
No independent country would accept future laws in which they have no say in the making. The UK has offered a generous free trade deal worth far more to the EU than the UK. It has been rejected by Brussels, not for trading reasons but for political reasons. The fact that the EU has published these delayed contingency plans means they have already accepted no-deal. Time to diverge, which they hate
45
10/12/2020 15:17:42 70 7
bbc
Brexit was always about politics never about economics
222
10/12/2020 15:33:17 12 3
bbc
Brexit was always about keeping our tax havens, but they wouldn't admit that. The rich who stashed their money away on the Cayman Islands would have all been paying tax by now if we'd stayed in the EU and implemented the Anti Tax Avoidance Directive. Multiple billions of pounds in the hands of the Exchequer could have done so much good in the country.
10/12/2020 16:35:34 2 1
bbc
Totally agree, Alanjohn. The People decided that it was not working for them (in whatever form it took - including being lectured to by an elite. This became political / principled). The sad thing is that the Euro Commission does not demonstrate an ability to listen or adapt - which is why Cameron was left in the position he was to call the vote. The EU, like any organisation needs to evolve.
7
10/12/2020 15:12:03 24 19
bbc
'unlikely' to go beyond Sunday , so why have them

even with no deal France still want our fish , and are worried things will be cheaper coming from the UK / Ireland ,
46
10/12/2020 15:17:51 32 14
bbc
They're not "our" fish, they do not consider themselves British, they live in the ocean and move around.
122
10/12/2020 15:25:09 4 1
bbc
Very informative thank you
202
10/12/2020 15:31:57 1 2
bbc
Sorry yes France want access to our waters then to fish in them. They can wait for them to go out into the Ocean to catch them then so whats the sticking point , why do they need access to our waters , maybe you have solved the fishing sticking point tell France to go wait in the ocean for the fish
223
10/12/2020 15:33:21 3 1
bbc
Okay, correction, the French still want to fish in our waters. If there is No Deal it is categoric that the French will have to ask permission to fish in our waters; that is international law.
10/12/2020 17:07:04 0 0
bbc
Okay so what are the French worried about. All they have to do is wait until the fish swim into their waters.
24
10/12/2020 15:14:50 7 8
bbc
We should have them every Thursday, just to check we are up to date
47
10/12/2020 15:17:51 7 3
bbc
It's been 4 years and they haven't been able to deliver what was promised - asking the people directly about it hardly seems extravagant.
22
10/12/2020 15:14:32 19 26
bbc
EU: The UK can leave as long as they do what we say.. Bu@@€r off EU
48
10/12/2020 15:17:53 2 2
bbc
Little thought it seems.
16
10/12/2020 15:12:57 15 13
bbc
Surely it's time to double check (via a referendum - not a GE) what the people of this country want to do about this?
49
10/12/2020 15:14:23 3 7
bbc
Absolutely not.
You lost 4 times already not going through it again.
86
10/12/2020 15:22:21 3 2
bbc
Incorrect, there has only been 1 referendum since 2016 on this - a GE can never give an answer on a single issue - and it's duplicitous to say it can.
50
10/12/2020 15:18:02 19 18
bbc
stick to our guns, boris. please don't cave.
138
10/12/2020 15:26:44 3 3
bbc
He can't stick to his guns because he doesn't know which guns he wants from day to day.
256
10/12/2020 15:35:46 0 1
bbc
Boris won’t give in. He’s got guts and knows what the country needs and expects. Anything less isn’t going to happen.
Merry Christmas ??
51
10/12/2020 15:18:02 66 13
bbc
This the guy who doesn't know most freight comes through Calais-Dover? Yeah a very useful commentator.......
627
10/12/2020 16:01:57 29 42
bbc
You are absolutely spot on, there is far more coming from Calais to Dover which is why the Europeans will eventually realise they've cut off their nose to spite their face !
Meanwhile the EU market has declined in importance to us over the last ten years and so we can now focus on trading fairly with the rest of the World, much of which is growing at a much faster rate than the EU.
739
10/12/2020 16:09:33 2 3
bbc
it Doesn't .......Felixstow takes 48% of all UK container freight followed by Southampton , Dover is miniscule in comparison . Your name matches your knowledge ! go and get another pumkin latte .
10/12/2020 17:35:04 0 0
bbc
There is certainly a lot of rubbish coming through the Dover area.
Boat-loads of it every weekend in good weather.
1
10/12/2020 15:09:43 22 23
bbc
Tory government failure

They promised Brexit was oven ready and done

That clearly was a lie

We must have a general election NOW

We can't leave with no deal with out one
52
10/12/2020 15:18:06 3 7
bbc
Remainers want GE every year??
251
10/12/2020 15:35:34 2 4
bbc
NO they want one every year till they win , now that sounds like the EU to , you are free till you do something we do not like or spoils our own club
34
10/12/2020 15:15:55 12 22
bbc
Brexit: Trade talks 'unlikely' to go beyond Sunday, says Dominic Raab

Good.

31/12/20 - Brexit done as promised
??????
53
10/12/2020 15:18:08 3 2
bbc
Yes good indeed. Can we just get on with our CoViD stricken existences now and move on, because there is more to life than this stuff...
110
10/12/2020 15:24:12 0 2
bbc
Aren't you glad your government has started vaccinating with an EU-made vaccine just before the no deal brexit.
54
10/12/2020 15:18:14 245 66
bbc
I get the impression that Brexit is already deemed to be a failure for Farage. He didn't just want the UK to leave the EU, but for our leaving to break up the EU. Well that hasn't happened and the tide of populist nationalism has receded from its high-water mark of 2016; in fact, with the defeat of Trump in the US, Brexit already seems something of an anachronism.
125
10/12/2020 15:23:08 131 116
bbc
The breakup of the EU hasn't happened yet but wait for the infighting.
140
10/12/2020 15:26:45 5 16
bbc
YET
148
10/12/2020 15:27:13 1 11
bbc
To you maybe, me, well I'm loving it.
163
10/12/2020 15:28:07 15 10
bbc
I think you need to take a closer look at Germany, Sweden, Finland, Hungary, Poland, Slovenia, Spain, Italy and Greece before you make sweeping statements like that. Anti-EU sentiment on the rise in all of those, with AFD making big gains in the east of Germany last year, and even socialist Sweden realising that its uncontrolled admission of immigrants has had a negative effect on its culture.
732
10/12/2020 16:09:07 2 6
bbc
Hungary is about to have the EU Impose Muslim immigrants on them against their will. The EU is in a flat spin.
823
10/12/2020 16:14:58 8 2
bbc
Break up of UK is more likely than the EU
878
10/12/2020 16:18:17 7 1
bbc
Other Eu states will see what happens to the UK post-Brexit and then decide whether they want to leave or not. Bet they don't when they see the slow motion car crash unfold
10/12/2020 16:29:45 2 7
bbc
The monolithic EU is becoming an anachronism.
10/12/2020 16:34:25 0 9
bbc
Wait til them French fishing communities find out what the EU has done for British fishing communities all these years. We'll get our fishing industry back up and running again and the EU can literally sling their hooks! Macron will be out and LePen will be in. Frexit - then a trade deal with the French soon to follow. Only Merkel left in the EU !!!!!
10/12/2020 16:49:15 0 3
bbc
Never agreed with Trump but he won a democratic election (their system), so respected that, same as some of us respect democracy under our system over here. Tell me looking at Trump now and what he is up to, which UK faction do you think is closer to his thinking and actions! remain/rejoin or leave/left.
10/12/2020 16:50:30 4 0
bbc
Very well said....agree with you wholeheartedly
55
10/12/2020 15:18:16 49 36
bbc
i vote leave. there will be short term disruption but we have our democracy back. With EU you could not vote the top people out - in US like him or loathe him people could vote to get rid of Trump and that's what they did. With the EU the top people owe their allegiance to Brussels bubble and people can not vote them out. Our leaders are now accountable, if you dont want Boris, vote him out!
71
10/12/2020 15:20:18 25 17
bbc
Nicely put
91
10/12/2020 15:23:00 13 1
bbc
We are a democracy!

Have you been given an opportunity to vote out the House of Lords or the Queen?
152
10/12/2020 15:27:29 12 1
bbc
Those European elections where we had the opportunity to elect an MEP completely passed you by?
305
10/12/2020 15:40:04 8 1
bbc
EU citizens vote for their MEPs who serve in the European Parliament. The European Council is made up of the elected heads of states of the member nations. The Commission head is appointed by the council, but has to be ratified by parliament.

We have an unelected House of Lords, appointed ministers, and PMs who are selected by their respective parties, so by relatively small numbers of people.
321
10/12/2020 15:41:31 4 7
bbc
well said, Boris was voted in to do a job, which he is now just getting on with.
Its the miserable 48% trying to stir up the messy brown stuff
353
10/12/2020 15:43:51 6 3
bbc
I voted leave too but I didn’t vote to leave without a deal. That wasn’t what was on offer in 2016. This is economic suicide.
374
10/12/2020 15:45:09 7 2
bbc
We did not vote Boris in....the Tory party did
449
10/12/2020 15:48:39 0 1
bbc
We will, that's a near cert!
553
10/12/2020 15:57:11 2 2
bbc
The reason you cannot vote out the the President of the EU is because the EU is union of states and not a federation as the USA. The UK vetoed giving the EU Parliament more say in running the Union to stop Federalisation. The UK is hardly democratic it has a voting system which prolongs the 2 party state.
809
10/12/2020 16:14:30 0 2
bbc
no one wants a clown as a leader but he's still there....
10/12/2020 16:30:18 0 0
bbc
You don’t need to vote them out, the top positions are fixed term contracts there are no jobs for life. Only the MEPs can stay on indefinitely and they you most certainly CAN vote out. You’ve handed your future over lock stock and barrel to a bunch of Eton educated, incompetent, lying, cheating crooks. Tanked economy, Kent a giant shit covered lorry park but oh dear I must stop ‘remoaning’
10/12/2020 16:39:26 0 0
bbc
We had European elections every 5 years where you could vote in or out your BRITISH MEP for your region. At the intergovernmental level the UK-elected government put forward its own commissioners and advisers to vote for and defend UK interests.
10/12/2020 17:05:08 1 0
bbc
And like remain/EU Trump refuses to accept the vote.
3
MVP
10/12/2020 15:11:20 17 25
bbc
Trade talks unlikely to go beyond the weekend

And understandably so.

The EU has bent over backward but at the end of the day it is the UK that has chosen this path, not them. And they have better things to do with their time than continue these pointless meetings where the UK continues to flip and flop around.
56
10/12/2020 15:18:17 2 2
bbc
No, they haven't.

They wish to - uniquely in their trade agreements - abrogate the provisions of UNCLOS and expand the jurisdiction of the ECJ to a single "third country" (that'll be us then).

Those are competencies that can only be exercised by a sovereign nation. Which is why (quite rightly) HMG are refusing to accede to these demands.
26
10/12/2020 15:15:09 3 2
bbc
Waste of time and money
57
10/12/2020 15:18:29 5 1
bbc
Less time and money than have been wasted over the past 4 years though - by a very long way.
15
jon
10/12/2020 15:12:57 86 71
bbc
No independent country would accept future laws in which they have no say in the making. The UK has offered a generous free trade deal worth far more to the EU than the UK. It has been rejected by Brussels, not for trading reasons but for political reasons. The fact that the EU has published these delayed contingency plans means they have already accepted no-deal. Time to diverge, which they hate
58
10/12/2020 15:18:35 13 3
bbc
Do you believe everything every dodgy spiv tells you? Or just the ones that stand up in Parliament, or get paid by off-shore newspaper owners, to spin their lies?
59
JJ
10/12/2020 15:18:43 52 27
bbc
History will not be kind to Bojo and his cronies. Feels like Brexit is our Vietnam.
85
10/12/2020 15:22:07 26 7
bbc
More like a Watergate......Dorisgate
Should we Napalm 10 Downing Street. Removed
116
10/12/2020 15:24:43 1 4
bbc
Is a member of the Van Tam family in a position of authority, then?

Oh yeah ...
154
10/12/2020 15:27:39 2 1
bbc
Can he land a helicopter of the roof of downing street ?
172
10/12/2020 15:28:48 1 5
bbc
Your Vietnam my sunny uplands.
230
10/12/2020 15:34:08 4 1
bbc
I lived in the USA at the height of the Vietnam war (for a short time only) and then returned to work in the same city 20 years later. The change in mentality was dramatic, in the early seventies Americans were very gung ho and confident, much less so in the nineties. Your analogy is very apt. It was also true that the USA was much poorer in comparison to the rest of world in the nineties.
757
10/12/2020 16:11:00 0 5
bbc
A truly disgusting slur on those that lost their lives fighting communism .
10/12/2020 17:03:51 0 2
bbc
Stupid comment. (That is the only language I can use).
30
10/12/2020 15:15:38 15 20
bbc
If the people voted for Brexit and to take back control of our laws and waters, why is the BBC surprised that we have rejected a proposal by the EU that will keep us in lockstep with their future laws in perpetuity?

Sometime I wonder about the BBC and it's objectivity?
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10/12/2020 15:18:44 8 3
bbc
What 'laws'? If you're referring to export regulations, we have to be in 'lockstep' with the import regulations of any country we export to.
61
10/12/2020 15:18:53 104 44
bbc
The EU: we must have a level playing field.

Everyone looks at Ireland with its below average Corp Tax haven status therefore contradicting the EU level playing field story ??
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10/12/2020 15:23:26 70 10
bbc
Ireland will soon be obliged to repay the solidarity extended to it by the French and Germans, starting with increasing corporation taxes to an EU approved range similar to the range allowed for VAT
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10/12/2020 15:23:55 14 3
bbc
Different countries across the EU set their own tax levels. We, for example, have lower income tax rates than many. However, standards of production are harmonised. That's the 'playing field' they're referring to.
121
10/12/2020 15:25:07 11 4
bbc
If you understood what the 'level playing field' is, you wouldn't be making such stupid comments.
146
10/12/2020 15:27:05 7 3
bbc
Is that why Ebay, Paypal etc are based in Luxembourg?
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Cat
10/12/2020 15:28:50 13 4
bbc
Contrary to popular belief the EU do not set corporation tax , each member state is free to decide their own tax rates. https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/taxation/business-tax/company-tax-eu/index_en.htm

VAT slightly different , no member state can have a VAT rate below 15% . Only party ever to raise VAT rates in UK , yes the low tax party the Tories.
411
10/12/2020 15:41:35 4 1
bbc
Taxes are set by individual national Govts, not the EU.
432
10/12/2020 15:47:43 0 2
bbc
Ireland is part of the EU we are not.
849
10/12/2020 16:16:11 1 1
bbc
Heaven forbid UK does that , haha or buy cheaper goods for their people ,

The truth is coming out , we are a big player and can undermine their club for the boys , at least we know thats what our government does and we can vote them out if they go on too long , EU lives in a dream world they make all the rules , like it or leave and we voted leave ,
10/12/2020 17:48:53 0 0
bbc
So Ireland has set its own (sovereign) rules ? Hmm how could that happen in the 'dictatorial' EU ?!
62
10/12/2020 15:19:03 23 14
bbc
It takes two parties to negotiate

The French are the issue here and will have to buckle to the wider EU pressure.

Nobody with any economic sense on BOTH sides wants a no deal exit. We will all be in a worse position, but that is lost on the narrow reporting in the UK.
78
10/12/2020 15:21:22 21 13
bbc
Yep it's bad for both sides but not as bad for the EU as it is for the UK relying heavily for 80% on its service based economy and financial businesses that will lose their entry into Europe.
87
10/12/2020 15:22:22 3 1
bbc
It's not 'lost' at all. It is obvious that the EU believe they wil benefit, otherwise no deal would be offered
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10/12/2020 15:26:10 3 1
bbc
I don't think it is, you know, if you read across the political spectrum without prejudice and without a specific agenda. Economically it's always and obviously been a negative sum game, and politically the same, in both cases because more friction = higher costs and higher tension, risk, uncertainty. Kind of obvious when you look at longest and most prosperous period of peace in Europe.
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10/12/2020 15:32:43 2 1
bbc
The French are the issue here and will have to buckle to the wider EU pressure.

You mean the other 26 countries they are in a Union with?
649
10/12/2020 16:03:50 1 1
bbc
The French are not the problem the UK is and has been ever since we joined.
40
10/12/2020 15:16:49 9 16
bbc
A sensible thing to do was to delay the transition by a little bit to allow for better conditions to negotiate given the pandemic, and the importance of a trade deal on both sides, but dogma seems to trump logic
63
10/12/2020 15:19:18 10 3
bbc
No it wouldn't be. All that would do is leave us paying in for longer and reaching this exact same point at the end of the extended period instead of now. They have all had plenty of time.
18
10/12/2020 15:13:37 18 26
bbc
I voted to join the club 30-odd years ago. It went out of control and I voted to leave the club. Four years on we are still tied to the apron strings. How do we ever get free of these EU dictators?
64
10/12/2020 15:19:18 6 3
bbc
If they're such dictators and they need our membership money so much, how did we ever have a vote to leave in the first place?
65
10/12/2020 15:15:27 6 12
bbc
Why would we give the EU any fishing rights to our waters unless they pay for it? They have already had a year. This is unacceptable and not for the EU to decide, but to agree with another nation. What nonsense is this? The EU live in a fantasy world why they rule the world and everyone does what they say. I don't think so.
74
10/12/2020 15:21:01 1 5
bbc
They paid for it!
79
10/12/2020 15:21:23 1 3
bbc
"Why would we give the EU any fishing rights to our waters unless they pay for it? "

Because they are offering us something other than money in return. Money is not required as they are in effect offerig to pay for it by offering us tariff-free trade.
189
10/12/2020 15:30:52 0 1
bbc
The EU live in a fantasy world. Exceptional analysis.

Exceptionally deluded. Who lives in a fantasy world?

BoJo and his Nodding Dog Government and anyone stupid enough to vote for them.
66
10/12/2020 15:19:51 17 14
bbc
I have never understood why working class people in this country vote conservative.

Hopefully when this mess unravels they never will again and they will see the Conservative Party for what it is.

Greed and Ineptitude
Hatred and Bile
109
10/12/2020 15:24:11 10 9
bbc
Better than the anti-Semitic, London-centric Labour luvvies!
129
10/12/2020 15:25:55 1 1
bbc
And who do they vote for? Labour ??????????????
161
10/12/2020 15:27:53 0 1
bbc
Right-wing Tabloids and a knobbled BBC.
171
10/12/2020 15:28:48 0 2
bbc
Plus understanding economics is beyond most people.
237
10/12/2020 15:34:33 3 2
bbc
I will tell you why, hope for a better life, that the Conservative way is more likely to enrich them for someone who puts in the effort and doesn't think the world owes them a living.
324
10/12/2020 15:41:49 0 1
bbc
Mr Pot & Mr Kettle seem to be having a little argument here....
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M D
10/12/2020 15:56:58 2 1
bbc
"I have never understood why working class people in this country vote conservative." Erm, because smug middle-class 'liberals' hijacked the Labour Party, which is now the party for middle-class self-interest. Because of the continuing fake-liberal hatred and bile towards anyone they perceive as being white working class, they will ensure that those people will vote Conservative again.
619
10/12/2020 16:01:34 0 1
bbc
its what's known as slum-toryism
67
10/12/2020 15:19:51 111 10
bbc
Mr Raab acknowledged there could be "some bumps along the road" with a No Deal Brexit ...
Is he talking about Project Fear?
No grow a pair and get on with it Removed
271
10/12/2020 15:37:16 3 2
bbc
You could not make it up
772
10/12/2020 16:11:56 7 3
bbc
Given he does'nt understand that a large amount of import/export activity takes place at the port @ Dover I would avoid asking him about such matters; he does'nt have a clue.

It's like asking the clown to do a detailed review of a document.... or not to lie
68
10/12/2020 15:19:55 135 49
bbc
Anyone with an IQ in double figures, realised back in early 2016 - long before the referendum - that the EU would not simply roll over and give us everything that we wanted when we left.
Farage and Johnson lied through their teeth at the time, make promises that they must have known would be impossible to keep. How many now regret that they were sucked in by the dishonesty?
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10/12/2020 15:26:37 76 27
bbc
Not many. They think we are fighting World War Two in black and white.
643
10/12/2020 16:00:33 1 12
bbc
No Deal now.

Not interested in self serving Remoaners.
776
10/12/2020 16:12:09 4 5
bbc
A lot of people who voted leave couldn't give a jot whether there is a deal or not. And guess what 4 years later still don't care.
860
10/12/2020 16:16:43 2 5
bbc
NO one does . as long as French fisherman are kept out of our eaters justice will be done after 40 years of ripping off the UK taxpayer. Then the French will finally understand that no means no
10/12/2020 16:43:11 4 1
bbc
Gosh , it must be thrilling for you to have an IQ so much higher than the average member of the population. Remainers are always telling us on the BBC website how much more intelligent they are than the Leave voters, so it must be true.
10/12/2020 16:44:04 3 3
bbc
I regret its taken 4 years and nothing , THE EU want access to our waters , The EU do not want us to buy cheaper, only remainers seem to remember what Borris / Nigel said the question was remain or leave , majority who voted said leave , there was no dishonesty only a few saying we will honour the vote and never did
xlr
10/12/2020 17:29:18 2 1
bbc
The failure of the EU to die seems to have caught the Brexiteers completely by surprise.
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10/12/2020 15:19:59 8 5
bbc
Raab : not much going on in that head. On a level with IDS. Tows Boris's line and that's about it.

The economy and business need some sort of deal : it'll be done in spite of the loons.................
124
10/12/2020 15:25:30 2 1
bbc
You're in a positive mood. We are f@@ked.
70
10/12/2020 15:20:14 13 8
bbc
von der Leyen to BoJo ... '...keep your distance and put your mask on...' Now if only someone had said that to Stanley, england wouldn't have found itself in this mess.
970
10/12/2020 16:24:18 1 0
bbc
Hahaha
55
10/12/2020 15:18:16 49 36
bbc
i vote leave. there will be short term disruption but we have our democracy back. With EU you could not vote the top people out - in US like him or loathe him people could vote to get rid of Trump and that's what they did. With the EU the top people owe their allegiance to Brussels bubble and people can not vote them out. Our leaders are now accountable, if you dont want Boris, vote him out!
71
10/12/2020 15:20:18 25 17
bbc
Nicely put
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VSA
10/12/2020 15:16:19 256 489
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No deal is a great deal.
72
10/12/2020 15:20:22 132 13
bbc
If no deal is such a great deal, why does anybody ever bother with trade deals?
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10/12/2020 15:27:52 27 96
bbc
The EU didn't bother with them, for its first 50 years; only just got around to doing Japan. Too busy building its ivory towers to do anything useful for it's members interests.
244
10/12/2020 15:35:08 10 24
bbc
Trade deals are fine generally, but no-deal with the EU means that the UKs relationship with that organisation is finally severed completely as was so voted. Anything after this has to be from the ground up and consensual at every point.
30
10/12/2020 15:15:38 15 20
bbc
If the people voted for Brexit and to take back control of our laws and waters, why is the BBC surprised that we have rejected a proposal by the EU that will keep us in lockstep with their future laws in perpetuity?

Sometime I wonder about the BBC and it's objectivity?
73
10/12/2020 15:20:59 0 3
bbc
Sometimes?
65
10/12/2020 15:15:27 6 12
bbc
Why would we give the EU any fishing rights to our waters unless they pay for it? They have already had a year. This is unacceptable and not for the EU to decide, but to agree with another nation. What nonsense is this? The EU live in a fantasy world why they rule the world and everyone does what they say. I don't think so.
74
10/12/2020 15:21:01 1 5
bbc
They paid for it!
75
10/12/2020 15:21:01 144 47
bbc
Well brexit's panning out nicely for the billionaires who bought the lying Ad Campaign!
They've never wanted a deal
Now they'll rake in all viable businesses, asset strip them and put our money in Tax Havens, whilst their families hunker down for the 20/50yrs of hardship, predicted by JR-M
Our TV Celebrity PM will go back to panel shows, whilst brexit voters slowly die, convinced they were right!
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10/12/2020 15:23:30 64 77
bbc
With that sort of optimism you must be a wheeze at parties.
whilst brexit voters slowly die, convinced they were right!
I hope a Covid winter advances this conclusion.
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10/12/2020 15:34:55 7 12
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Wake me up when your nonsense is put to bed.....
303
10/12/2020 15:40:01 4 9
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I’ve got a tin foil hat to sell if you want it.
415
10/12/2020 15:47:08 3 11
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Are you still moaning!
I'm with you and digging my underground shelter to prevent the billionaires Carbon dioxide from getting to it?
Upon the other hand You are raving crazy
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10/12/2020 16:39:12 2 3
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Yes, we should re-join the EU immediately. I really want to bail out all those southern and eastern member countries and contribute to their EU Covid recovery fund. They might even let us have a bit of the money back.
10/12/2020 18:23:45 1 0
bbc
Most of the Brexit supporting billionaires have already left the country, and of those that remain, you can bet they've sent their assets off shore. Which includes Rees-Moggs hedge fund.
76
10/12/2020 15:21:04 146 59
bbc
BoJo's on borrowed time
90
10/12/2020 15:22:56 131 55
bbc
The Unjon is toast.
Well Done Brexitees.
527
10/12/2020 15:55:05 7 1
bbc
He'll disappear under the same rock that Cameron is under - never to be seen again.
633
10/12/2020 15:58:10 3 8
bbc
Only in Left Wing wet dreams.

Note: You've lost vote after voter after vote after vote after vote.

And the Labour party is racist.
10/12/2020 16:43:40 0 1
bbc
True, only another two terms in government to come, but hey ho....I expect he'll want a rest around 2030.....
10/12/2020 17:28:32 0 0
bbc
Only for the next stooge unfortunately.
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10/12/2020 15:13:45 362 154
bbc
We left. We wanted access to the club house. We don't want to abide by the rules of the club house. We stomp asking them to abide by our rules.

It's a wonder they didn't shut down the negotiations sooner! We must look like a wailing 3 year old to them.

So much for the oven ready deal...but I suppose oven ready meals are usually a bit nasty.
77
10/12/2020 15:21:10 249 257
bbc
The EU’s inability to recognize the UK as an independent state and the possible outcome will likely further weaken an already extremely fragile construct.

All we want is fair reciprocal free trade as offered to other countries around the world. Our vicinity is irrelevant.
142
10/12/2020 15:26:50 44 12
bbc
The UK's inability to recognise the EU as a worthwhile entity to be part of will likely further weaken an the already extremely fragile construct of the UK.

All the EU want is for us to abide by their rules to allow us access to their club. Surely that's only fair when we are no longer paying membership fees to the club?

Can I come around an use your house to sleep in? Free of charge of course.
204
10/12/2020 15:32:02 20 7
bbc
Ridiculous, so sound like a immature spoilt child
315
10/12/2020 15:40:52 26 2
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Its negotiating with us so I think they fully recognise us an an independent state. Incidentally France is an independent state which is why they threaten to scupper any deal about fish
333
10/12/2020 15:42:31 9 5
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Of course our vicinity is relevant as unlike Canada we are right on the EU's doorstep.
335
10/12/2020 15:42:35 7 4
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It is highly relevent.
339
10/12/2020 15:42:51 13 5
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The EU is stronger because of Brexit. The 27 remaining countries can see what's happening to this country and they are laughing. Yes, laughing, at us. And any talk in other countries about leaving the EU has completely stopped.

If other countries have more to offer in return than we do, why should we get the same trade deal that they get? Also, Johnson's threat to break the law won't help.
344
10/12/2020 15:43:05 8 5
bbc
The UK's inability to recognise that the UK is an independent state has always been the problem.
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AP
10/12/2020 15:43:53 13 3
bbc
Wrong. The EU has never given any country what we are after, and they will never do so.

Full access to the EU market comes with regulations (level playing field), ask Norway.
378
10/12/2020 15:45:17 10 4
bbc
The 'U'K is not an independent state... if there's a 'fragile construct' facing dissolution it's an anti-democratic false construct called the 'U' K - Scotland voted Remain, N. Ireland voted Remain... why should these noble, decent countries remain shackled to a corpse. Time for Scotland to take back control.
496
10/12/2020 15:52:49 13 3
bbc
Since all EU member states are independent, sovereign, nations, and the UK has always been independent and sovereign, the constant harping on about independence and sovereignty by UK Cabinet Ministers keen to please their rather dim and easily fooled fan base has been rather tedious for the EU negotiators.
607
10/12/2020 16:00:23 4 2
bbc
Do you really think that the French, Germans et al believe they have lost their independence? Trading under WTO terms means some loss of freedom. The real world favours the larger groups. We will be those moaning minnows in a forgotten island in North West Europe.
669
10/12/2020 16:05:16 3 3
bbc
There is no such thing as the same deal offered to everyone. Each country has it's own set of wants. It is the British still trying to get it's cake and eat it that is the problem.
681
10/12/2020 16:05:49 1 2
bbc
We also decided to put in red lins which other countries did not.
727
10/12/2020 16:08:48 0 5
bbc
Spot on.
743
10/12/2020 16:09:59 5 1
bbc
Anything which the EU decides is after lengthy consultations with experts from all the member nations. It was the UK which ruled down an EU proposal to protect its steel industry. Then our politicians turned up at Redcar to say that they would like to help but couldn't because of the EU!
As an independent state and not a member of any major trading bloc we won't have much sovereignty.
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10/12/2020 16:11:51 6 2
bbc
Our vicinity is relevant. We are aiming to undercut EU standards, and therefore prices, to sell inferior products into their market.
If we were thousands of miles away, less of a problem. But we are not. So they treat us as an existential threat, and require safeguards. Did you think they would just roll over?
We decided to leave. Don't blame the EU for the perfectly foreseeable
consequences.
866
10/12/2020 16:17:13 3 1
bbc
Your 'Sovereignty' in the modern world is a fantasy...much like Brexit itself!
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10/12/2020 15:19:03 23 14
bbc
It takes two parties to negotiate

The French are the issue here and will have to buckle to the wider EU pressure.

Nobody with any economic sense on BOTH sides wants a no deal exit. We will all be in a worse position, but that is lost on the narrow reporting in the UK.
78
10/12/2020 15:21:22 21 13
bbc
Yep it's bad for both sides but not as bad for the EU as it is for the UK relying heavily for 80% on its service based economy and financial businesses that will lose their entry into Europe.
180
10/12/2020 15:29:30 0 3
bbc
No they won't.
301
10/12/2020 15:39:54 0 1
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who told you that, what nonsense
336
10/12/2020 15:42:37 0 1
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Oh well we will still have our piddling little fishing industry. Let them eat fish!
10/12/2020 17:06:01 0 0
bbc
You're talking nonsense, absolute nonense as 90% of the financials services are tariff free and unaffected but hey why look at a positive when you can talk down the UK
10/12/2020 17:30:30 0 0
bbc
You missed the bit about that all ready being resolved the EU applied weeks ago for continued access to Londons financial markets and doing so agreed passport continuity.
10/12/2020 19:31:37 0 0
bbc
The trade deal won’t affect services.
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10/12/2020 15:15:27 6 12
bbc
Why would we give the EU any fishing rights to our waters unless they pay for it? They have already had a year. This is unacceptable and not for the EU to decide, but to agree with another nation. What nonsense is this? The EU live in a fantasy world why they rule the world and everyone does what they say. I don't think so.
79
10/12/2020 15:21:23 1 3
bbc
"Why would we give the EU any fishing rights to our waters unless they pay for it? "

Because they are offering us something other than money in return. Money is not required as they are in effect offerig to pay for it by offering us tariff-free trade.
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10/12/2020 15:16:54 16 24
bbc
It would appear on today’s HYS the remoaners are back out beating their drum
Well come what may it’ll all be over soon for you so I’m afraid you’ll just have to deal with it and accept the reality and move on in life.
80
10/12/2020 15:21:29 3 3
bbc
Always banging the drum for reason and decency and against obduracy and stupidity. One day you'll get the message... even you.
214
10/12/2020 15:32:44 1 1
bbc
Yes, you keep banging the same drum all the time. It’s doesn’t matter what you say or do. The decision has been made by the public. One day you’ll get it. Even you. Well maybe !!!!!
41
10/12/2020 15:16:54 16 24
bbc
It would appear on today’s HYS the remoaners are back out beating their drum
Well come what may it’ll all be over soon for you so I’m afraid you’ll just have to deal with it and accept the reality and move on in life.
81
10/12/2020 15:21:40 0 2
bbc
I'm past caring about what they think. You'd imagine that they'd have realised that they have been wrong about everything for over 4 years now. Probably not though, what with totally lacking internal monologue or ability to self reflect..
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10/12/2020 15:09:43 22 23
bbc
Tory government failure

They promised Brexit was oven ready and done

That clearly was a lie

We must have a general election NOW

We can't leave with no deal with out one
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10/12/2020 15:21:42 4 1
bbc
The FT reported not long ago that hedge funds connected with Johnson stand to make something like nine billion pounds, but only if there's no deal.

So will he turn his back on the money and do something for the country by compromising and agreeing a deal with the EU? He's a Conservative and I can't imagine one of them turning down money, especially that much. So I'm guessing it'll be no deal.
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10/12/2020 15:13:45 362 154
bbc
We left. We wanted access to the club house. We don't want to abide by the rules of the club house. We stomp asking them to abide by our rules.

It's a wonder they didn't shut down the negotiations sooner! We must look like a wailing 3 year old to them.

So much for the oven ready deal...but I suppose oven ready meals are usually a bit nasty.
83
10/12/2020 15:21:46 34 7
bbc
3 year olds are often more sure about what they want and the best way to get it.
84
10/12/2020 15:21:57 18 9
bbc
Deal or No deal bojo will do the same as Cameron and probably resign then one of his mates will sort him out with a nice little earner.
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JJ
10/12/2020 15:18:43 52 27
bbc
History will not be kind to Bojo and his cronies. Feels like Brexit is our Vietnam.
85
10/12/2020 15:22:07 26 7
bbc
More like a Watergate......Dorisgate
801
10/12/2020 16:13:56 2 1
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Clowngate
49
10/12/2020 15:14:23 3 7
bbc
Absolutely not.
You lost 4 times already not going through it again.
86
10/12/2020 15:22:21 3 2
bbc
Incorrect, there has only been 1 referendum since 2016 on this - a GE can never give an answer on a single issue - and it's duplicitous to say it can.
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10/12/2020 15:19:03 23 14
bbc
It takes two parties to negotiate

The French are the issue here and will have to buckle to the wider EU pressure.

Nobody with any economic sense on BOTH sides wants a no deal exit. We will all be in a worse position, but that is lost on the narrow reporting in the UK.
87
10/12/2020 15:22:22 3 1
bbc
It's not 'lost' at all. It is obvious that the EU believe they wil benefit, otherwise no deal would be offered
67
10/12/2020 15:19:51 111 10
bbc
Mr Raab acknowledged there could be "some bumps along the road" with a No Deal Brexit ...
Is he talking about Project Fear?
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No grow a pair and get on with it Removed
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10/12/2020 15:41:33 9 3
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Will growing a pair help to pay the increase in prices?
403
10/12/2020 15:46:23 10 5
bbc
Why not actually 'grow a pair' and admit brexit is, was and always will be a stupid idea.
406
10/12/2020 15:46:45 6 4
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Someone needs to grow a brain and try hard to have a synapse
10/12/2020 16:32:34 4 2
bbc
It appears that "Grow a Pair" seems to have superseded "Suck it up" in the Brexiteers Manual of poplar catchphrases! What a complete bunch of plonkers!
10/12/2020 17:00:58 1 0
bbc
No Spitfires left this time old timer. Watch and see.
ajs
10/12/2020 17:05:36 2 0
bbc
maybe if you grew a pair of brain cells you wouldn't make such a stupid comment.
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10/12/2020 15:22:52 11 8
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It's unbelievable that the EU want to fish in UK waters, especially after we sold off the rights to EU companies to fish in our waters...

The cheek.

Maybe Leavers can look away from The Express and fish (0.1% of GDP) and explain if Brexit is so great why billions of pounds is walking out of the City of London into the EU for single market access?
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10/12/2020 15:24:54 4 1
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Maybe it would be more than 0.1% if they were allowed to catch more and the EU less?
317
10/12/2020 15:40:54 1 0
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Except that those quotas were part of the Common Fisheries Policy, to which we are no longer obligated. Nor were they in perpetuity, they were time limited - which means they're also part of the "divorce bill". that we've agreed to.

UNCLOS has primacy here.
76
10/12/2020 15:21:04 146 59
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BoJo's on borrowed time
90
10/12/2020 15:22:56 131 55
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The Unjon is toast.
Well Done Brexitees.
248
10/12/2020 15:35:24 3 2
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Sounds like you don’t let anyone choose if they want to be in a club or not.....
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10/12/2020 15:37:57 8 9
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Nah it really isn’t. SNP can bang on about independence all they like, they have zero legal ability to force Westminster to give another referendum. No referendum, no independence. Simple.
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10/12/2020 15:42:34 4 9
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No need to thank us, just get us a beer! The union will go on.....
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10/12/2020 15:56:23 2 7
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Good. We have bailed out Scotland and Wales for far too long.
10/12/2020 16:26:31 0 2
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No it isn't.
10/12/2020 16:34:04 0 3
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Did you mean 'Union' or 'Onion'? If the latter, I agree with you.

Keep posting rubbish, Remainees.
10/12/2020 16:57:44 0 1
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Cos you don’t want to pay tax
10/12/2020 17:23:19 0 0
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What is a toasted Unjon?Is it a well done Onion,or a new colour tee?Perhaps you could post in your native tongue for someone to translate.
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10/12/2020 15:18:16 49 36
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i vote leave. there will be short term disruption but we have our democracy back. With EU you could not vote the top people out - in US like him or loathe him people could vote to get rid of Trump and that's what they did. With the EU the top people owe their allegiance to Brussels bubble and people can not vote them out. Our leaders are now accountable, if you dont want Boris, vote him out!
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10/12/2020 15:23:00 13 1
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We are a democracy!

Have you been given an opportunity to vote out the House of Lords or the Queen?
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10/12/2020 15:29:51 2 7
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I am 48 and Cameron in 2016 was the first politician to ask me if I wanted to be part of the EU. I honestly thought when I voted that this is the last time my vote will count if we vote to remain. Now at a general election we can get the political leaders we vote for - like in December, 2 very different futures, Johnson or Corbyn, we had a direct choice. I would love a vote on Queen and H of L.
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10/12/2020 15:54:58 1 1
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No. But they have no executive power.
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10/12/2020 15:23:01 25 3
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load of bulls..t and bluster the whole thing. have we British been let down ?
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ljs
10/12/2020 15:26:44 22 5
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BADLY let down !!!!
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10/12/2020 15:47:28 1 0
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Let down is an understatement. We’ve been sent down the river without a paddle.
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10/12/2020 15:16:18 17 6
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For a start, they're not dictators.

Now, in calm, sensible terms, kindly explain the benefits of leaving. We're still waiting to hear them.
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10/12/2020 15:23:01 1 4
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Not paying for the madness that sees them shuffle between Brussels and Strasbourg to appease the French for a start. That was costing at least 114 million euros back in 2014. I hate to think what it is now. Just a tiny benefit, but a benefit nonetheless. https://www.cityam.com/eu-parliament-lavishes-114m-year-moving-brussels-strasbourg/
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10/12/2020 15:31:13 2 2
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And don't forget the £55 - 82bn we would be on the hook for as our contribution to the 750bn Euro COVID giveaway fund (depending on which estimate you believe).
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10/12/2020 15:13:29 3 12
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Remainers. Short the £

50x leverage.

Loot the leavers pension pots (if they have them)
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10/12/2020 15:23:10 0 1
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No sound pension fund has invested in cash accounts for over 5 years now.
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10/12/2020 15:15:55 12 22
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Brexit: Trade talks 'unlikely' to go beyond Sunday, says Dominic Raab

Good.

31/12/20 - Brexit done as promised
??????
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10/12/2020 15:23:26 0 2
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As if Dominic Roob could be believed - how enchanting brextremists are... ready to clutch at the frailest straws and put their warped faith in unicorns. Silly blighters.
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10/12/2020 15:18:53 104 44
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The EU: we must have a level playing field.

Everyone looks at Ireland with its below average Corp Tax haven status therefore contradicting the EU level playing field story ??
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10/12/2020 15:23:26 70 10
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Ireland will soon be obliged to repay the solidarity extended to it by the French and Germans, starting with increasing corporation taxes to an EU approved range similar to the range allowed for VAT
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10/12/2020 15:37:48 3 6
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You know that's rubbish... but then, you probably believe the propoganda that gets printed on privately chartered buses.
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10/12/2020 15:45:17 0 4
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they will soon leave
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10/12/2020 15:54:51 1 3
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And ending with ever-increasing contributions to the failing EU budget, whereupon the majority of pragmatic Irish people will decide their biggest, best and most reliable trading partner is the U.K.
10/12/2020 16:50:56 0 0
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Sounds like centralised power grabbing.

No thanks. Out we go.
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10/12/2020 15:21:01 144 47
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Well brexit's panning out nicely for the billionaires who bought the lying Ad Campaign!
They've never wanted a deal
Now they'll rake in all viable businesses, asset strip them and put our money in Tax Havens, whilst their families hunker down for the 20/50yrs of hardship, predicted by JR-M
Our TV Celebrity PM will go back to panel shows, whilst brexit voters slowly die, convinced they were right!
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10/12/2020 15:23:30 64 77
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With that sort of optimism you must be a wheeze at parties.
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10/12/2020 15:41:00 13 4
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I think it’s called realism
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10/12/2020 15:45:10 12 3
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All brexitears have is optimism, I hope that puts food on your table next year.
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10/12/2020 15:50:41 10 2
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At least he gets invited to parties.

After leaving the EU, GGRF, we aren't going to be.
10/12/2020 17:28:57 1 0
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What are you on ?
10/12/2020 17:42:27 1 0
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What they say is correct
The UK economy is screwed
British companies will not be able to operate in Europe
Brits will be the new economic migrants, sailing to France in dinghies, begging to be let in
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10/12/2020 15:23:31 18 17
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How many negative articles all conveniently with HYS, can the Euro-Beeb write in one day?
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10/12/2020 15:33:52 1 0
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I think someone said the same thing about the BBC anti capitalist reporting of the financial crash in 2008...but it got Robert Peston a good job on ITV so can't have been all that bad can it?
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10/12/2020 15:42:42 0 0
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Might be because there is a lack of positives (unless you are disaster capitalist / super rich).
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10/12/2020 15:54:50 0 0
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Maybe, there are so many negative aspect of Brexit and the positives are still waiting to be found? But, no it must be that the BBC are Bias and the Probrexit lobby are shinning examples of Truth (just don't look at what they have said previously, its a bit of a paradox)
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JJ
10/12/2020 15:18:43 52 27
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History will not be kind to Bojo and his cronies. Feels like Brexit is our Vietnam.
Should we Napalm 10 Downing Street. Removed
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10/12/2020 15:23:41 3 1
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The deal was settled until last night's dinner - when Boris mentioned the Prussian army arriving at Waterloo.....!!
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10/12/2020 15:27:51 0 1
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Who are the Prussian Army mate? Did they have problems changing trains there or something?