Brexit: UK and Singapore sign free trade agreement
10/12/2020 | news | business | 533
The deal is one of many aimed at replicating trade pacts that will cease when the UK leaves the EU.
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10/12/2020 09:57:55 66 39
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More good news. We should support the country we live in, or live in the country we support.
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10/12/2020 10:05:02 49 28
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Its not about support, its about economic reality
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10/12/2020 10:28:48 4 7
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Why should I offer support (as in giving business to...) those businesses owned by people with fundamentally opposing views who have significantly altered my future choices, finances, hopes etc.? How about "NO!" Equally, I'm sure they wouldn't want to lower themselves by accepting money from me, nope, they wouldn't that i'm sure. Divided country, what a result.
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jon
10/12/2020 13:16:48 0 0
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Would make an interesting immigration policy....
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10/12/2020 09:58:29 37 20
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The key to this article is that the trade deal mirrors the current deal with the Eu. It’s not even subtle smoke and mirrors......
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10/12/2020 10:01:29 38 8
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Well, logically it would mirror it - or would you prefer it to be less comprehensive and possibly a worse deal ?
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10/12/2020 11:05:50 7 2
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It differs in some key areas. Notably they are not demanding access to our natural resources or that we agree to be constrained to their regulatory framework in the future. They also do not demand that arbitration be carried out by a shill of their choice. So, the mirror in this case is a little sharper and more focused on mutual benefit..
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10/12/2020 09:58:58 54 18
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Singapore ... Gateway to the East
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10/12/2020 11:19:17 14 14
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Really? I suggest not.
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10/12/2020 11:37:08 2 3
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Liz and Spaffer are thrilled that our world-beating chewing-gum industry can now make serious inroads in a country where there seems to be a huge gap in the market.
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Nik
10/12/2020 10:01:02 164 94
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So it's similar to the EU deal, yet we haven't had to spend billions for the privilege, give away our fish, join the Euro, or be subjected to rules made without our say - great stuff - well done Liz
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10/12/2020 10:06:31 108 111
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We had an opt out form the euro and we shaped the laws to our advantage.

Brexiteers just can't stop lying.
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10/12/2020 10:06:34 18 12
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No, it's similar to the deal with already had with Singapore as members of the EU. Nothing at all like the deal we need with the EU, as our neighbours, our biggest export market, the source of most of our fresh food, and with whom we have overlapping fishing areas.
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10/12/2020 10:12:06 17 7
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Exactly, we have only been able to seek trade deals this year as the Eu would not allow us to whilst the WA wasn't signed. So we are now signing trade deals at quite a pace. As most said before hand, a lot will be a cut and replace job but they will be UK agreed and in the future they can be expanded up once we have signed up with trade deals the EU currently doesn't have (Australia, NZ, USA etc
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10/12/2020 10:15:37 12 12
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We paid for it under the EU already, we just paid again to get the same deal
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10/12/2020 10:24:40 7 11
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and there you go, we didn't join the Euro, didn't give away our fish, the fishermen already sold their quotas years ago and I think you'll find the fish are sovereign in their own mind, we just steal them! Rules, we DID have a say as a member but going forward in a deal (which there WILL be eventually), we will accept the rules to comply and then will NOT have a seat at the rule making table.
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10/12/2020 11:17:02 1 1
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Seriously?
is that the level of your debate?
you have no idea between the EU and Singapore ?
Says it all about vote leave.
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10/12/2020 11:37:33 0 0
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tying lwat
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10/12/2020 12:26:58 1 1
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"yet we haven't had to spend billions for the privilege"

The UK has spent more on Brexit than the entire cost of EU membership since we joined. Could have remained and spend that money on the NHS instead.
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10/12/2020 16:42:36 0 0
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You had just as much "say" through your MEP as you do with your MP. If its the same deal - then all LT has done is put her signature on a piece of paper. A Non-event - and at what cost.
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10/12/2020 16:46:15 0 1
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No instead we spent billions on building giant car parks in Kent, recruiting 50,000 border guards, and negotiating away our previously right to trade openly with the EU.

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10/12/2020 09:58:29 37 20
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The key to this article is that the trade deal mirrors the current deal with the Eu. It’s not even subtle smoke and mirrors......
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10/12/2020 10:01:29 38 8
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Well, logically it would mirror it - or would you prefer it to be less comprehensive and possibly a worse deal ?
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10/12/2020 10:26:08 8 5
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Surely it should be a better deal otherwise not much point in all the costs and effort don't you think? Having a hissy fit and replacing like with like isn't anything to brag about or maybe it's just me? Wasn't brexit about sunlit uplands rather than the same grey skies and rain?
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10/12/2020 11:39:16 0 0
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Isn't that what we did with Japan...?
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10/12/2020 16:51:58 0 0
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I'd expect it to be a BETTER deal given all the Bru Ha Boris exorts. Anything less than a better deael is a failure.
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10/12/2020 10:03:13 65 46
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BBC always has a touch of bitterness when anything positive for the UK happens - they really can’t accept Brexit, in spite of it being a democratic vote. Mind you, when you’re funded by a compulsory license fee why would you worry....... ?
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Nik
10/12/2020 10:04:51 51 35
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The Guardian newspaper would be dead if it wasn't for all the copies bough by the BBC
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10/12/2020 10:10:43 14 15
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Brexiteers always have a touch of bitterness when referring to anything about the BBC - they really cant accept factual reporting, in spite of the benefits it brings. Mind you, when you're driven by nationalism and thinly disguised bigotry why would you worry........ ?
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10/12/2020 10:40:09 5 1
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I think Huffington Post is more pro-Brexit than the BBC these days.
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10/12/2020 10:51:23 1 0
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Licence.
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10/12/2020 21:58:20 0 0
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The loss of EU funding must hurt.
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10/12/2020 10:03:21 129 28
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Don’t they need an oversight of our lawmaking?
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10/12/2020 10:12:12 93 34
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No and surprisingly did want unfettered access to UK waters to enable them to sell our prawn back to us as dumpling not sure how they will managed based on the fuss the EU is making over it
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10/12/2020 10:21:50 4 6
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Of course they do!

If they didn't we wouldn't a deal where we agree the laws/rules we going to follow.
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10/12/2020 11:04:26 9 9
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wow , another one deliberately ( i hope) not understanding trade.
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10/12/2020 12:11:14 2 0
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And access to fish!
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10/12/2020 13:50:14 1 2
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Amazing all that fuss to leave the biggest free trade market in the world, just so we could sign trade deals that are exactly the same as we already had whilst in that club. Pathetic!!

And yet out come the far-right to tell us what a great deal it is. Propaganda is all that it is!
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10/12/2020 19:02:18 0 2
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With Brexit enabling the transfer of more dirty money through the city of london and principalities of course singapore was up for unfettered access to that system.
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10/12/2020 10:04:16 30 25
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So let’s get this right. The deal mirrors the deal already in existence with the EU? If so why is tax payers money being wasted on what seems very similar to re-inventing the wheel? Excuse me for being totally thick but I can’t see the benefit of all this.
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10/12/2020 10:05:16 20 11
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You are excused.
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10/12/2020 10:05:49 6 4
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Because were no longer in the EU ?
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10/12/2020 10:08:09 8 1
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It's because without it, when the UK leaves in Jan, all the EU trade deals we were part of would cease as we are no longer part of the EU (whose deal it is). The benefit of rolling over the EU deals is that after 1st Jan, nothing will change, with these countries, that is. Derrrrr !!!!
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10/12/2020 10:08:45 8 3
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You are indeed excused for being totally thick. But......We are not in the EU now.
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10/12/2020 10:18:31 7 1
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The benefit is clear. The existing deal will disappear in January so a replacement is required. This is important for businesses trading with Singapore.
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10/12/2020 10:19:11 3 0
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Because we have left Eu and their treaties are no longer ours to use...Doh, wake up
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10/12/2020 10:04:43 176 99
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Another deal signed, after Iceland and Norway, yet this positive move forward is hidden away at the foot of the page.
I wonder why, BBC ?
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10/12/2020 10:11:31 126 89
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Maybe because the UK exports 30 times as much stuff to the EU as it does to the Singapore, hence getting a trade deal with them is slightly more important. In percentage terms, the BBC is giving it too much coverage, if anything.
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10/12/2020 10:14:06 17 16
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Because its the same as the deal we had already paid for under the EU, we just paid for it twice.
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10/12/2020 10:06:32 9 3
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Because these are fairly minor nations on the world stage. But good news nevertheless
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Dax
10/12/2020 10:44:15 3 1
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I guess it will move up in the ranking of the "most read" section during the course of the day. It's up to the readers to play!
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10/12/2020 10:45:57 20 2
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And all the negative comments ??. Even their Asia correspondent says oh but it's insignificant and only replacing the existing deal we had with them as part of the EU - does she expect the UK not to put deals together with countries on terms that we previously traded on? Believe putting such deals together is called sensible business.
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10/12/2020 10:49:30 12 1
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It wasn't. The position of news stories depends on the cookies stored on your individual computer, which is based on your previous clicks. Consequently everyone's screen will have a slightly different range pf stories and those stories in a different order. In my case this story was very prominent in the headlines on the right hand of the screen.
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10/12/2020 11:02:39 6 7
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Your wonder is the issue,
The EU is nearly 50% of all out trade, Singapore doesn't even register.

Why do you wonder now?
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10/12/2020 11:06:30 6 0
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Eh? You do realise you can scroll these pages? Its in the top section which is the main headlines?
Should have went to Barnard Castle?
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10/12/2020 11:11:07 5 9
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Because it's NOT a positive move. It's just giving us what we already had with the EU, if you actually read what it said
"The agreement largely mirrors existing deal between Singapore & EU"
"It is part of broader set of trade negotiations for the UK, as it tries to replicate trade pacts which will cease when the EU transition period ends"

Then again, Brexiteers can only read on the side of buses
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10/12/2020 11:20:50 2 4
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Maybe because these deals are continuing the status quo and just rolling over deals negotiated by, and agreed with, the EU.

Some victory!
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10/12/2020 11:27:49 2 5
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Because it's tiny and insignificant compared to what we're throwing away with the EU.
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10/12/2020 13:25:11 0 2
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maybe because its exactly the same deal as you had before Brexit?
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10/12/2020 19:47:07 1 1
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Its not positive news - just damage limitations. How can keeping what you already had be "positive news" It has cost millions maybe billions to get a deal far worse than we had with absolutely no benefits at all. When will Brexiters understand the real world? They will have plenty of time to think about it whilst they wait in two hour queues with all the foreigners trying to get to Benidorm.
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11/12/2020 09:26:13 0 0
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Because it is feeble.

Brexit Job Loss Index: 436,296 Jobs Lost As Of 31 January 2020.

https://smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/
Removed
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11/12/2020 11:26:59 0 0
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That's the problem with Brexiters. Can't do Maths. What percentage of Uk trade does Singapore comprise? Bottom line is throwing a spanner in the works of trade with the largest trade bloc in the world is going to hurt. Like it or not.
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10/12/2020 10:03:13 65 46
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BBC always has a touch of bitterness when anything positive for the UK happens - they really can’t accept Brexit, in spite of it being a democratic vote. Mind you, when you’re funded by a compulsory license fee why would you worry....... ?
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Nik
10/12/2020 10:04:51 51 35
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The Guardian newspaper would be dead if it wasn't for all the copies bough by the BBC
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10/12/2020 10:07:18 5 5
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Hahahaha. Based on your extensive research? Or do you have a link?
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MJ
10/12/2020 11:28:11 6 6
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The Daily Mail would be dead if it wasn’t for all the copies bought by right-wing, racist, Brexiteer pensioners.
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10/12/2020 11:59:39 0 1
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It's bought
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10/12/2020 09:57:55 66 39
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More good news. We should support the country we live in, or live in the country we support.
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10/12/2020 10:05:02 49 28
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Its not about support, its about economic reality
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10/12/2020 10:26:28 3 5
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So you don't support the UK?!
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10/12/2020 10:04:16 30 25
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So let’s get this right. The deal mirrors the deal already in existence with the EU? If so why is tax payers money being wasted on what seems very similar to re-inventing the wheel? Excuse me for being totally thick but I can’t see the benefit of all this.
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10/12/2020 10:05:16 20 11
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You are excused.
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10/12/2020 10:05:26 110 52
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If the BBC were truly impartial on the question of Brexit, it would give equal prominence to good and bad news. This is clearly good news.
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10/12/2020 10:14:10 91 69
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Liz Truss grinning like a head girl whose just won the inter-house hockey competition, just because she's nearly replicated the trading arrangements we previously had as EU members. That's good news? It's at best neutral news.
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10/12/2020 10:19:21 3 12
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What, we can get the same deals as the EU by ourselves, that seems to be bad news to me as we have to do it by ourselves
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10/12/2020 10:12:25 5 5
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The bad news stories currently reported represent troubles in getting a FT deal with a large trading partner. This deal with Singapore, while good news, is less significant, so given less attention.

To me that's like the idea that anti-vaxxers should be given the same amount of airtime as those who support vaccine usage. One side has more backing as the correct viewpoint from experts in the field
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10/12/2020 10:43:21 4 6
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Yes but it isn't. We all know it isn't and so does the BBC. They only like bad news, hence that gets the headlines.
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10/12/2020 10:48:25 7 3
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Well it literally just did that... i mean the story is on their webpage and there is a HYS about it....

What else do you want. A banner saying well done Bojo?

Jesus you can't please some people
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10/12/2020 11:23:10 4 2
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Name one thing that will change as a result of these deals which we already had as being part of the EU. Just one will do.
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10/12/2020 11:26:48 4 2
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If you were aware we already had a deal with Singapore through the EU and this just gets us what we ALREADY had - not more.
Why would you give that ANY prominence?
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10/12/2020 11:28:45 0 2
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And miniscule.
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10/12/2020 10:04:16 30 25
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So let’s get this right. The deal mirrors the deal already in existence with the EU? If so why is tax payers money being wasted on what seems very similar to re-inventing the wheel? Excuse me for being totally thick but I can’t see the benefit of all this.
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10/12/2020 10:05:49 6 4
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Because were no longer in the EU ?
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10/12/2020 10:06:02 77 32
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We're keeping access to a significant trading hub. We should be pleased. Amidst all the doom and gloom this is actually a good news story.
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10/12/2020 10:08:19 40 4
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Yep. Certainly better to have this deal than not having this deal
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10/12/2020 11:29:14 1 1
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We already had it.
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10/12/2020 16:27:52 0 0
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over priced vacuums? What a deal.
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10/12/2020 19:48:42 0 0
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Keeping what we already had - damage limitation nothing new advantageous
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Nik
10/12/2020 10:01:02 164 94
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So it's similar to the EU deal, yet we haven't had to spend billions for the privilege, give away our fish, join the Euro, or be subjected to rules made without our say - great stuff - well done Liz
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10/12/2020 10:06:31 108 111
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We had an opt out form the euro and we shaped the laws to our advantage.

Brexiteers just can't stop lying.
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Nik
10/12/2020 10:12:05 21 19
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It's not a lie, joining the Euro was going to be compulsory as well as the Federal army and controls for each country's taxes.
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10/12/2020 10:19:40 10 9
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"Brexiteers just can't stop lying" lmao.
Remoaners...........(you get the picture)
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10/12/2020 10:23:00 15 7
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Yep, and every time we tried to apply change from within, we were sent away with a flea in our ears.
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10/12/2020 10:42:15 8 9
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And Remoaners just can't stop moaning!
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Nik
10/12/2020 11:20:11 5 4
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We used to shape the laws to our advantage when Thatcher could bargain with our Contribution/Subsidies, but then Bliar gave them all away and Brown sold all the Gold at rock-bottom prices
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10/12/2020 12:14:18 1 0
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Can't be true can it?
Post brexit.. EU demand rights over UK internal laws (level playing field).
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Nik
10/12/2020 10:01:02 164 94
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So it's similar to the EU deal, yet we haven't had to spend billions for the privilege, give away our fish, join the Euro, or be subjected to rules made without our say - great stuff - well done Liz
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10/12/2020 10:06:34 18 12
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No, it's similar to the deal with already had with Singapore as members of the EU. Nothing at all like the deal we need with the EU, as our neighbours, our biggest export market, the source of most of our fresh food, and with whom we have overlapping fishing areas.
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10/12/2020 10:10:12 23 15
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Except the French, Spanish, Dutch et al have emptied most of their fish stocks through over fishing, whereas we haven’t
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10/12/2020 10:10:56 23 14
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Thereby demonstrating that the UK doesn’t have to be a member of the EU to have trade deals with other countries around the world
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10/12/2020 21:46:28 0 0
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Does anyone look where the food they buy comes from? We have limited access to food sources as a result of EU preferential treatment of certain supplies often to the detriment of countries like Israel and New Zealand.
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10/12/2020 10:07:11 33 26
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But the BBC told me deals like this were impossible at such a short timescale.
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10/12/2020 10:09:06 34 25
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No they didn't. You made that up.
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10/12/2020 10:07:27 49 25
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£164 billion in trade to the EU 27. It's this market we needed a trade agreement with.
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10/12/2020 10:16:48 55 24
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Of course, but not any price it has to be equitable and right now what is on offer isnt equitable at all and only a moron would sign up to it.
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10/12/2020 10:17:53 12 6
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and a multi billon trade deficit with the EU. In business terms, that is a recipe for bankruptcy. Even then, we still had to pay a membership fee of x billions for the privilege.
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10/12/2020 10:19:05 8 5
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From https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/

In 2019 UK imports from the EU were £374 billion (52% of all UK imports).

They need it too.
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10/12/2020 10:18:35 2 3
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Another 26 trade deals like this and that's £459billion in the back-burner.
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DSA
11/12/2020 08:38:48 0 0
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Yes, we do need a trade deal, but one that doessn't have other unacceptable conditions not related to trade..
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10/12/2020 10:07:38 17 17
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Typical government spin - celebrating nothing new.
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10/12/2020 10:04:16 30 25
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So let’s get this right. The deal mirrors the deal already in existence with the EU? If so why is tax payers money being wasted on what seems very similar to re-inventing the wheel? Excuse me for being totally thick but I can’t see the benefit of all this.
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10/12/2020 10:08:09 8 1
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It's because without it, when the UK leaves in Jan, all the EU trade deals we were part of would cease as we are no longer part of the EU (whose deal it is). The benefit of rolling over the EU deals is that after 1st Jan, nothing will change, with these countries, that is. Derrrrr !!!!
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10/12/2020 10:18:56 6 3
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So if nothing changes, what was the point in ending up with costs in the last 4 years that exceed the 40+ years of contributions to the EU, to end up with the same deal in effect and without the others, including the main one which is our main market? Brexiteer logic is if nothing else, interesting to try to figure out. Wait, logic and Brexit, what an oxymoron.
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10/12/2020 10:08:27 25 13
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Good oh...
Now then, Mr Grayling.
How long will the hold up be at the port?
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10/12/2020 10:51:15 6 2
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Why will imports not subject to tariffs or duties be held up at a UK port?
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11/12/2020 08:21:04 0 0
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Do you really think business will carry on accepting slow processes ?? They will adapt and grow and smooth this out. It's economics - business will adapt and thrive...it's what they do
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10/12/2020 10:04:16 30 25
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So let’s get this right. The deal mirrors the deal already in existence with the EU? If so why is tax payers money being wasted on what seems very similar to re-inventing the wheel? Excuse me for being totally thick but I can’t see the benefit of all this.
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10/12/2020 10:08:45 8 3
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You are indeed excused for being totally thick. But......We are not in the EU now.
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10/12/2020 10:07:11 33 26
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But the BBC told me deals like this were impossible at such a short timescale.
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10/12/2020 10:09:06 34 25
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No they didn't. You made that up.
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10/12/2020 10:17:34 10 3
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Actually that myth has been peddled by all MSM and Remain for years.
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10/12/2020 10:09:13 95 46
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There is a world outside of the EU.
One that does not want to control every aspect of out existence.
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10/12/2020 10:12:41 72 65
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Unfortunately I live in the UK where the government want to control me more than the EU.
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10/12/2020 10:25:04 7 11
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Maybe, but in the UK the gov want to control us more than the EU.
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Ken
10/12/2020 12:05:27 2 2
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There's also a Westminster Bubble that wants to destroy our local and devolved governments and definitely wants to control every aspect of our existence so it can allow their mates to asset-strip.
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10/12/2020 12:15:07 1 1
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Lol not sure about that.
Russia, China, USA?
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10/12/2020 10:09:50 148 50
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'But while both sides are keen to tout this deal as a success - it is effectively a rollover of the EU Singapore free trade agreement.'

Which is exactly why this is a success story. If the UK can replicate the terms of deals with other countries that it had as part of the EU, that is very good news, and gives the lie to the assertion that it cannot continue to do good business outside the EU.
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10/12/2020 10:20:35 91 66
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If the agreement represents good business as you say, the UK must have already been doing good business inside the EU - its the same agreement after all - Plus we would not have had to waste time, money & political capital to get back to square one if we had just stayed in the EU.
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10/12/2020 10:22:20 24 10
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And, of course, it tells us that Singapore is keen to do business with us. Contrary to the opinions of some who can't accept our democratic decision, just because we've left the EU does NOT mean we've faded away.
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10/12/2020 10:23:41 10 20
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How is better to bear the cost of this independently when we could share the cost with others?
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10/12/2020 10:15:46 7 0
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As a remainer (if that's still a thing at this stage), I agree with you. The slight concern is that if we don't fill our list with equivalent deals with everyone outside Europe who we had deals with via the EU, that would still potentially make us worse off. On the other hand, maybe some countries will give us better deals. Who knows?!
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10/12/2020 11:06:39 2 4
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Nobody said it couldn't,
unless you read the fear mongering Tory rags.
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10/12/2020 11:29:49 4 3
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Or is it because they sell more to us than we do to them. Anyway no doubt Dyson will be very happy making money - for Singapore
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10/12/2020 16:39:09 0 0
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It's No Better than we already had so what was the point of leaving ?. If its not a better deal - then there was no point.
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11/12/2020 09:25:41 0 0
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https://smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/

Brexit Job Loss Index: 436,296 Jobs Lost As Of 31 January 2020
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10/12/2020 10:06:34 18 12
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No, it's similar to the deal with already had with Singapore as members of the EU. Nothing at all like the deal we need with the EU, as our neighbours, our biggest export market, the source of most of our fresh food, and with whom we have overlapping fishing areas.
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10/12/2020 10:10:12 23 15
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Except the French, Spanish, Dutch et al have emptied most of their fish stocks through over fishing, whereas we haven’t
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10/12/2020 11:19:12 5 3
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Wow,
another Brexiteer changing History.
WE destroyed our Cod and Herring stocks leading to the Iceland fishing wars - NOT the EU. The EU imposed quotas which allowed these stock to recently become viable again.

Stop lying.
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10/12/2020 13:20:26 0 0
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and we won't...
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10/12/2020 16:31:01 0 1
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And we sold the bulk of our quotas to European fishermen. So on that basis are we going ask for full ownership back on British Airways from the Spanish?
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10/12/2020 10:03:13 65 46
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BBC always has a touch of bitterness when anything positive for the UK happens - they really can’t accept Brexit, in spite of it being a democratic vote. Mind you, when you’re funded by a compulsory license fee why would you worry....... ?
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10/12/2020 10:10:43 14 15
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Brexiteers always have a touch of bitterness when referring to anything about the BBC - they really cant accept factual reporting, in spite of the benefits it brings. Mind you, when you're driven by nationalism and thinly disguised bigotry why would you worry........ ?
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10/12/2020 10:18:14 4 6
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Like factual reporting on what has been happening in Nigeria ? No, because you won't hear abut that on the 10 o clock news.
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10/12/2020 13:22:55 2 2
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Steve, it is grammatically incorrect to use BBC and factual reporting in the same sentence!!
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10/12/2020 10:06:34 18 12
bbc
No, it's similar to the deal with already had with Singapore as members of the EU. Nothing at all like the deal we need with the EU, as our neighbours, our biggest export market, the source of most of our fresh food, and with whom we have overlapping fishing areas.
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10/12/2020 10:10:56 23 14
bbc
Thereby demonstrating that the UK doesn’t have to be a member of the EU to have trade deals with other countries around the world
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10/12/2020 11:19:45 0 1
bbc
Really?
a failure to understand right there.
30
10/12/2020 10:10:58 20 15
bbc
Cant we just move the UK round to the Pacific, its much nicer over there, images of europe include protests, rioting, racism (mostly from France), over there its technology, investment, caring people with the exception of China. Im glad we are trading with them instead of the EU.
46
10/12/2020 10:17:26 4 10
bbc
Sarcasm surely?
9
10/12/2020 10:04:43 176 99
bbc
Another deal signed, after Iceland and Norway, yet this positive move forward is hidden away at the foot of the page.
I wonder why, BBC ?
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10/12/2020 10:11:31 126 89
bbc
Maybe because the UK exports 30 times as much stuff to the EU as it does to the Singapore, hence getting a trade deal with them is slightly more important. In percentage terms, the BBC is giving it too much coverage, if anything.
16
10/12/2020 10:06:31 108 111
bbc
We had an opt out form the euro and we shaped the laws to our advantage.

Brexiteers just can't stop lying.
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Nik
10/12/2020 10:12:05 21 19
bbc
It's not a lie, joining the Euro was going to be compulsory as well as the Federal army and controls for each country's taxes.
135
10/12/2020 10:44:47 2 1
bbc
Well said Frank Spencer
239
10/12/2020 11:20:05 0 1
bbc
Please stop lying.
423
10/12/2020 16:32:43 0 0
bbc
Just compound the lie! None of these were compulsory
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Nik
10/12/2020 10:01:02 164 94
bbc
So it's similar to the EU deal, yet we haven't had to spend billions for the privilege, give away our fish, join the Euro, or be subjected to rules made without our say - great stuff - well done Liz
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10/12/2020 10:12:06 17 7
bbc
Exactly, we have only been able to seek trade deals this year as the Eu would not allow us to whilst the WA wasn't signed. So we are now signing trade deals at quite a pace. As most said before hand, a lot will be a cut and replace job but they will be UK agreed and in the future they can be expanded up once we have signed up with trade deals the EU currently doesn't have (Australia, NZ, USA etc
241
10/12/2020 11:20:33 0 1
bbc
Do you know why?
7
10/12/2020 10:03:21 129 28
bbc
Don’t they need an oversight of our lawmaking?
34
10/12/2020 10:12:12 93 34
bbc
No and surprisingly did want unfettered access to UK waters to enable them to sell our prawn back to us as dumpling not sure how they will managed based on the fuss the EU is making over it
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RSS
10/12/2020 11:03:05 18 30
bbc
The fuss is that we, well not we (as I have more than 2 brain cells and IQ higher than a donkey), voted to leave. Why should the EU give us anything? We depend on them a lot more than they depend on us. We should suck it up and take any deal they propose to us, as we are going to be in deep trouble without it.And this is not even talking about immigration, as we are going to lose all our expertise
203
10/12/2020 11:05:13 17 3
bbc
Is that satire or do you really not know the difference between Singapore and the EU?
Removed
519
11/12/2020 10:58:26 0 0
bbc
What unfettered EU access ?
The rights we sold to them ?

quitter ignorance knows no bounds.
35
10/12/2020 10:12:40 88 50
bbc
The vitriol in the comments on the main story is risible and predictable. So many still frothing at the mouth because Leave won and can’t wait for the UK to fail so they can be proved right. Pitiful
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10/12/2020 10:22:16 54 52
bbc
Won what? Is it a share of lower GDP? Yippeee
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10/12/2020 10:23:14 7 8
bbc
I couldn't put it better myself. Spot on.
182
10/12/2020 10:58:14 11 6
bbc
What a very silly thing to say. We are meant to be one nation. Why are you still trying to divide us? Yes leave won the referendum, but that doesn't mean the concerns of the 48% who backed remain are irrelevant. Try to remember that: we one nation.
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Dan
10/12/2020 11:10:27 1 5
bbc
"Pitiful," said PinkCatsMum with vitriol.
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10/12/2020 11:31:20 6 6
bbc
"because Leave won" - and that attitude is the biggest reason for your inability to admit to the damage to the UK that Brexit is already causing.
Removed
25
10/12/2020 10:09:13 95 46
bbc
There is a world outside of the EU.
One that does not want to control every aspect of out existence.
36
10/12/2020 10:12:41 72 65
bbc
Unfortunately I live in the UK where the government want to control me more than the EU.
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10/12/2020 10:15:34 14 10
bbc
You need to read more and wise up
73
10/12/2020 10:24:26 14 10
bbc
At least it’s our chosen government, not unelected officials in Brussels or Strasberg.
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10/12/2020 10:45:25 11 5
bbc
No-one is stopping you from leaving this country. Not even the government. Maybe take your tinfoil hat to Europe and stop whinging
218
10/12/2020 11:10:40 4 1
bbc
Go live in EU then.
9
10/12/2020 10:04:43 176 99
bbc
Another deal signed, after Iceland and Norway, yet this positive move forward is hidden away at the foot of the page.
I wonder why, BBC ?
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10/12/2020 10:14:06 17 16
bbc
Because its the same as the deal we had already paid for under the EU, we just paid for it twice.
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10/12/2020 11:17:22 5 1
bbc
How much have we paid for it?
13
10/12/2020 10:05:26 110 52
bbc
If the BBC were truly impartial on the question of Brexit, it would give equal prominence to good and bad news. This is clearly good news.
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10/12/2020 10:14:10 91 69
bbc
Liz Truss grinning like a head girl whose just won the inter-house hockey competition, just because she's nearly replicated the trading arrangements we previously had as EU members. That's good news? It's at best neutral news.
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10/12/2020 10:24:50 6 4
bbc
It is only neutral news to those with an axe to grind.

Pfft. Trumpsters never quit.
180
10/12/2020 10:57:40 7 5
bbc
Another bitter remoaner
433
10/12/2020 16:45:16 0 0
bbc
If she couldn't do better - then it has to be a TERIBBLE outcome for those expecting the UK to do better having left the EU.
39
10/12/2020 10:14:40 9 12
bbc
This is a good deal for Singapore they will continue to sell manufactured goods to the uk or whatever remains of it post brexit,covid and bozo making a large profit whilst the rUK haemorrhages cash as it has nothing that Singapore wants and cannot compete in manufacturing
40
10/12/2020 10:14:45 76 8
bbc
"So far, more than 20 of these existing deals have been rolled over " - 27 out of 40 so far, with the intent of making them more UK specific in the future
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10/12/2020 11:28:50 17 36
bbc
"The road to hell is paved with good intent."
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10/12/2020 11:49:47 1 4
bbc
It's actually 80 that need replaced from January 1st, so we have negotiated back 25% of the trade we are about to lose...

Doesn't seem good enough to me, especially as these trade deals aren't as lucrative as the one we had within the EU.
432
10/12/2020 16:44:06 0 2
bbc
you mean crossing our the letters EU and inserting UK that kind of thing.
36
10/12/2020 10:12:41 72 65
bbc
Unfortunately I live in the UK where the government want to control me more than the EU.
41
10/12/2020 10:15:34 14 10
bbc
You need to read more and wise up
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Nik
10/12/2020 10:01:02 164 94
bbc
So it's similar to the EU deal, yet we haven't had to spend billions for the privilege, give away our fish, join the Euro, or be subjected to rules made without our say - great stuff - well done Liz
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10/12/2020 10:15:37 12 12
bbc
We paid for it under the EU already, we just paid again to get the same deal
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10/12/2020 21:48:26 0 0
bbc
Can you please let us know how much per year we will be paying Singapore? No mention of payment in the article.
43
10/12/2020 10:16:29 26 11
bbc
Singapore is a gateway to that whole region. This is good news. More to come?
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10/12/2020 10:38:37 20 10
bbc
We used to be a gateway into Europe. That gave us substantial benefits
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10/12/2020 10:54:43 1 2
bbc
Yes, but we have simply more or less replicated the deal that we did with that gateway whilst in the EU. Since we know that EU deals were all bad for the UK, because "the EU had it in for us," why have we not quickly negotiated a deal with Singapore that is better for the UK than the EU one? Singapore, after all, is in the Commonwealth, and so obliged to give us whatever we want, is it not?
19
10/12/2020 10:07:27 49 25
bbc
£164 billion in trade to the EU 27. It's this market we needed a trade agreement with.
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10/12/2020 10:16:48 55 24
bbc
Of course, but not any price it has to be equitable and right now what is on offer isnt equitable at all and only a moron would sign up to it.
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10/12/2020 10:43:33 4 13
bbc
You could, of course, say that about people who were, allegedly, deluded enough to vote to leave the EU. .....
You give me some hope as a moron is currently looking to sign up! Removed
437
10/12/2020 16:49:30 1 2
bbc
Says someone who would cut off their nose to spite their face. The UK holds hardly any cards in this game. Its a Lose / Lose scenerio.
45
10/12/2020 10:17:25 7 3
bbc
Liz, smile for the camera and say, "Cheese".
30
10/12/2020 10:10:58 20 15
bbc
Cant we just move the UK round to the Pacific, its much nicer over there, images of europe include protests, rioting, racism (mostly from France), over there its technology, investment, caring people with the exception of China. Im glad we are trading with them instead of the EU.
46
10/12/2020 10:17:26 4 10
bbc
Sarcasm surely?
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10/12/2020 10:09:06 34 25
bbc
No they didn't. You made that up.
47
10/12/2020 10:17:34 10 3
bbc
Actually that myth has been peddled by all MSM and Remain for years.
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10/12/2020 12:02:26 0 2
bbc
That's codswallop too.
Piddling trade deals like this one won't fill the hole left by brexit, unless you are referring to the brilliant deal with the Faroe Islands for £238,000
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10/12/2020 10:17:39 38 16
bbc
A market of 650m people...why that's twice the size of the EU market...may not currently be the same level of trade...but the possibilities here...particularly for agriculture & fishing is enormous!

Seems the only people who don't want a free trade deal is...the EU!
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KRR
10/12/2020 10:21:29 26 30
bbc
We had a free trade deal with Singapore through the EU. Identical, pretty much, to this one. We don't gain by leaving the EU. We only lose.

And people like you still don't realise what you've done.
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10/12/2020 10:27:30 6 4
bbc
The EU have trade deals with other Asian countries and more are in the works. We are out of all of these.

There was much touting of the UK-Japan trade deal, but once people read the small print, it was found to be inferior to the EU-Japan deal. Just waiting for the same with this one.
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sjb
10/12/2020 10:29:19 3 0
bbc
Not sure where your figure of 650m people comes from? Singapore has a population of under 6m. Japan, the other country mentioned in the article has a population 130m - still no where near your figure of 650m.
49
10/12/2020 10:17:40 13 11
bbc
Lots of Political capital, time & money being spent for what?! To replicate exactly what we already had within the EU?!
90
10/12/2020 10:29:55 1 1
bbc
There are other costs than financial.
19
10/12/2020 10:07:27 49 25
bbc
£164 billion in trade to the EU 27. It's this market we needed a trade agreement with.
50
10/12/2020 10:17:53 12 6
bbc
and a multi billon trade deficit with the EU. In business terms, that is a recipe for bankruptcy. Even then, we still had to pay a membership fee of x billions for the privilege.
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10/12/2020 10:10:43 14 15
bbc
Brexiteers always have a touch of bitterness when referring to anything about the BBC - they really cant accept factual reporting, in spite of the benefits it brings. Mind you, when you're driven by nationalism and thinly disguised bigotry why would you worry........ ?
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10/12/2020 10:18:14 4 6
bbc
Like factual reporting on what has been happening in Nigeria ? No, because you won't hear abut that on the 10 o clock news.
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10/12/2020 10:04:16 30 25
bbc
So let’s get this right. The deal mirrors the deal already in existence with the EU? If so why is tax payers money being wasted on what seems very similar to re-inventing the wheel? Excuse me for being totally thick but I can’t see the benefit of all this.
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10/12/2020 10:18:31 7 1
bbc
The benefit is clear. The existing deal will disappear in January so a replacement is required. This is important for businesses trading with Singapore.
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10/12/2020 10:08:09 8 1
bbc
It's because without it, when the UK leaves in Jan, all the EU trade deals we were part of would cease as we are no longer part of the EU (whose deal it is). The benefit of rolling over the EU deals is that after 1st Jan, nothing will change, with these countries, that is. Derrrrr !!!!
53
10/12/2020 10:18:56 6 3
bbc
So if nothing changes, what was the point in ending up with costs in the last 4 years that exceed the 40+ years of contributions to the EU, to end up with the same deal in effect and without the others, including the main one which is our main market? Brexiteer logic is if nothing else, interesting to try to figure out. Wait, logic and Brexit, what an oxymoron.
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10/12/2020 10:28:04 1 3
bbc
I think Brexiteers would rather be poorer paying UK gov lots of money to do deals that they already less for under the EU
19
10/12/2020 10:07:27 49 25
bbc
£164 billion in trade to the EU 27. It's this market we needed a trade agreement with.
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10/12/2020 10:19:05 8 5
bbc
From https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/

In 2019 UK imports from the EU were £374 billion (52% of all UK imports).

They need it too.
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10/12/2020 10:04:16 30 25
bbc
So let’s get this right. The deal mirrors the deal already in existence with the EU? If so why is tax payers money being wasted on what seems very similar to re-inventing the wheel? Excuse me for being totally thick but I can’t see the benefit of all this.
55
10/12/2020 10:19:11 3 0
bbc
Because we have left Eu and their treaties are no longer ours to use...Doh, wake up
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10/12/2020 10:28:40 1 2
bbc
Our treaties that we paid for are no longer ours to use so we have to pay again?
13
10/12/2020 10:05:26 110 52
bbc
If the BBC were truly impartial on the question of Brexit, it would give equal prominence to good and bad news. This is clearly good news.
56
10/12/2020 10:19:21 3 12
bbc
What, we can get the same deals as the EU by ourselves, that seems to be bad news to me as we have to do it by ourselves
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KRR
10/12/2020 10:19:29 17 11
bbc
- Yay! Now we can trade with SIngapore! EAT OUR DUST EU SUPERSTATE

- We already could. We already had an EU trade deal with Singapore. Pretty much this one. So what advantage do we have by leaving the EU?

- This is a BRITISH deal which means it must be BETTER than any deals we made with FORNERS!!! Why do you RAMOANER LOOSERS hate Britain?

- You people actually think that, don't you?
444
10/12/2020 17:28:23 3 0
bbc
Don't worry kids, it's just one of those Remainers shouting at himself again. Something bad happened to them in 2016 and they never moved on.
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10/12/2020 10:06:31 108 111
bbc
We had an opt out form the euro and we shaped the laws to our advantage.

Brexiteers just can't stop lying.
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10/12/2020 10:19:40 10 9
bbc
"Brexiteers just can't stop lying" lmao.
Remoaners...........(you get the picture)
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10/12/2020 10:19:53 58 17
bbc
While it was an EU member, the UK was automatically part of around 40 trade deals which the EU had with more than 70 countries.

In 2018, these deals represented about 11% of total UK trade.
----

Perhaps I'm expecting too much, but considering the so-called trade status of the EU, that sounds more like a handful of crumbs rather than a substantial slice of cake.
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11/12/2020 11:31:06 0 0
bbc
Singapore has a population 0f 5m

EU has a population of 700m

Only the terminally stupid (Boris, Gove and friends) would claim that a deal with the former is justification for screwing up a deal with the latter.
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10/12/2020 10:19:56 14 9
bbc
Dig out the current trade agreement with Singapore, do a find and replace all on "EU" to "UK", job's a good 'un. That'll be £10million plus expenses for my consultancy fee, then we'll move on to the Bahamas.
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10/12/2020 10:09:50 148 50
bbc
'But while both sides are keen to tout this deal as a success - it is effectively a rollover of the EU Singapore free trade agreement.'

Which is exactly why this is a success story. If the UK can replicate the terms of deals with other countries that it had as part of the EU, that is very good news, and gives the lie to the assertion that it cannot continue to do good business outside the EU.
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10/12/2020 10:20:35 91 66
bbc
If the agreement represents good business as you say, the UK must have already been doing good business inside the EU - its the same agreement after all - Plus we would not have had to waste time, money & political capital to get back to square one if we had just stayed in the EU.
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10/12/2020 13:53:09 0 0
bbc
Ah, but you are just talking sense; surely you don't expect those on the right to stop pedalling fake news and propaganda do you?!

What we are going to have though is a terrible arrangement with our biggest market, the EU, in exchange!
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10/12/2020 18:55:06 0 0
bbc
That is what the Remain Lobby explained to "the people" but people knew better.
Ho Hum.
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10/12/2020 10:17:39 38 16
bbc
A market of 650m people...why that's twice the size of the EU market...may not currently be the same level of trade...but the possibilities here...particularly for agriculture & fishing is enormous!

Seems the only people who don't want a free trade deal is...the EU!
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KRR
10/12/2020 10:21:29 26 30
bbc
We had a free trade deal with Singapore through the EU. Identical, pretty much, to this one. We don't gain by leaving the EU. We only lose.

And people like you still don't realise what you've done.
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BC
10/12/2020 10:27:44 5 4
bbc
hahaha not the old "people like you..." argument again. Gotta love the moral and intellectual superiority on show there
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10/12/2020 10:03:21 129 28
bbc
Don’t they need an oversight of our lawmaking?
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10/12/2020 10:21:50 4 6
bbc
Of course they do!

If they didn't we wouldn't a deal where we agree the laws/rules we going to follow.
455
10/12/2020 18:44:38 0 1
bbc
Double negatives a-go-go
Lost market of 800 mln people, gained market of 5 mln. British victories of 2020. Celebrate, Britons. Celebrate becoming a second world country , sick man of Europe 2.0
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10/12/2020 10:42:35 1 0
bbc
The UK hasn't lost or gained anything.
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10/12/2020 10:12:40 88 50
bbc
The vitriol in the comments on the main story is risible and predictable. So many still frothing at the mouth because Leave won and can’t wait for the UK to fail so they can be proved right. Pitiful
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10/12/2020 10:22:16 54 52
bbc
Won what? Is it a share of lower GDP? Yippeee
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10/12/2020 11:12:14 6 2
bbc
If GDP and increases in GDP had been shared more equally rather than benefiting an already wealthy elite mainly living in London and the south east then the country would have voted Remain
26
10/12/2020 10:09:50 148 50
bbc
'But while both sides are keen to tout this deal as a success - it is effectively a rollover of the EU Singapore free trade agreement.'

Which is exactly why this is a success story. If the UK can replicate the terms of deals with other countries that it had as part of the EU, that is very good news, and gives the lie to the assertion that it cannot continue to do good business outside the EU.
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10/12/2020 10:22:20 24 10
bbc
And, of course, it tells us that Singapore is keen to do business with us. Contrary to the opinions of some who can't accept our democratic decision, just because we've left the EU does NOT mean we've faded away.
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10/12/2020 10:26:05 13 11
bbc
All it means is Singapore want to continue to do business/protect their existing investment within the UK. When it comes to changing the terms in future the UK will face an up hill struggle (as it will with all countries) - The EU is by far the larger trading block & 3rd countries will not want to favor the UK at risk of damaging their relationship with the EU.
461
10/12/2020 18:58:26 0 1
bbc
How many hours by ferry is Singapore from Dover?

The population of Singapore is 5.85m.
The EU is 83.2m.
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10/12/2020 10:22:38 7 19
bbc
Its a Success!!! We have managed to agree a trade deal that puts us exactly in the same position we were in when we were inside the EU. - So we are back to square one - when has that been a point of celebration in anyone's book? & what a waste of time, money & political resources
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10/12/2020 10:40:19 1 1
bbc
Not exactly - we are 20 trade agreements (50% by number) short of where we were in the EU - after 4 years, and with 3 weeks to go....

Looks like the sensible people vastly underestimated the sheer incompetence of the hard Right that are running this project
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10/12/2020 10:37:38 1 0
bbc
Really?? How much of our fish are Singapore demanding? And point me to the freedom of movement of people clause.
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10/12/2020 10:22:52 63 36
bbc
More anti Brexit comments incoming from people who can not accept the result of a vote. Like it or hate it the fact is the UK voted out, get on with it. Any decent trade deal is good post Brexit
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10/12/2020 10:38:16 38 33
bbc
You get on with it, and I will comment. It is your project - own it!
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10/12/2020 11:32:28 2 6
bbc
And Scotland will be off.
Where would you like your nukes?
278
10/12/2020 11:41:32 3 5
bbc
Like it or leave it - Your precious referendum was gerrymandered, based on lies and is unsafe in the extreme.

The sooner Scotland gets out of this union with you little englanders the better
427
10/12/2020 16:37:09 1 1
bbc
Your bed you sleep in it. When it hits the fan its your mess.
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10/12/2020 10:22:53 6 19
bbc
My son lives there and because of the pandemic I haven’t seen him or my grandsons for 18 months. So I propose that the first transaction should be the importation of my family to the UK, and the exporting of ... Boris! Cheap at the price.
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10/12/2020 10:37:33 0 0
bbc
I am sure a well-managed country like Singapore will have a regulation they can use to deny him entry
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10/12/2020 10:06:31 108 111
bbc
We had an opt out form the euro and we shaped the laws to our advantage.

Brexiteers just can't stop lying.
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10/12/2020 10:23:00 15 7
bbc
Yep, and every time we tried to apply change from within, we were sent away with a flea in our ears.
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10/12/2020 10:45:08 4 5
bbc
You are parroting stuff put about by your brexi heroes. Tell us about one time that you went to Brussels to negotiate something and came away with nothing. One time that you, personally, did it. You cannot, because it never happened, and it never happened because the UK was notorious in the EU for getting special treatment and its own way about everything.
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10/12/2020 11:21:23 0 1
bbc
Emmm, you mean like the Euro Shengzen etc...
Thought so.
425
10/12/2020 16:35:30 0 1
bbc
You need to go and study your political history. The percentage of times we didn't get our way is small and actually a better track record than most other EU countries
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10/12/2020 10:09:50 148 50
bbc
'But while both sides are keen to tout this deal as a success - it is effectively a rollover of the EU Singapore free trade agreement.'

Which is exactly why this is a success story. If the UK can replicate the terms of deals with other countries that it had as part of the EU, that is very good news, and gives the lie to the assertion that it cannot continue to do good business outside the EU.
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10/12/2020 10:23:41 10 20
bbc
How is better to bear the cost of this independently when we could share the cost with others?
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10/12/2020 10:29:00 25 13
bbc
oh my god, the UK pays X billion a year to be in the EU. It then, each year has a trade deficit of 100billion+ for the privilege. The deals we are signing now as an independent nation don't have these bills attached to them. Also Singapore don't want to have say over our laws or the UK waters for a deal. I wonder why the EU do - are they scared of something?
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10/12/2020 10:24:15 7 7
bbc
Imo the 2 year Article 50 process on future trade deals was contrary to natural justice. It was bad enough that UK could not line up deals with 3rd countries but EU itself refused to talk future trade until after UK had left. Where was the 'level' playing field when WE needed one.
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10/12/2020 10:36:17 1 0
bbc
It's your project - own it!
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10/12/2020 10:12:41 72 65
bbc
Unfortunately I live in the UK where the government want to control me more than the EU.
73
10/12/2020 10:24:26 14 10
bbc
At least it’s our chosen government, not unelected officials in Brussels or Strasberg.
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b
10/12/2020 10:44:21 9 9
bbc
Nope, it’s a government chosen by the minority. And overseen by the unelected elites of the Lords and the monarchy. Freedom from the elites, eh.
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10/12/2020 12:16:48 4 1
bbc
And who is the MEP that you voted for?
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jon
10/12/2020 13:13:30 2 1
bbc
Actually it is the European Parliament, that we vote for, who selects the European Commission that is accountable to the Council of Ministers comprising the elected leaders of each member state. There is greater democratic transparency and accountability than there is in the UK political set up. This is a false narrative that has been allowed to play for decades.
420
10/12/2020 16:30:59 0 0
bbc
Yes we voted for a circus and have clowns. What a great result. Still sounds like you don't have to get up for work everyday.
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Nik
10/12/2020 10:01:02 164 94
bbc
So it's similar to the EU deal, yet we haven't had to spend billions for the privilege, give away our fish, join the Euro, or be subjected to rules made without our say - great stuff - well done Liz
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10/12/2020 10:24:40 7 11
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and there you go, we didn't join the Euro, didn't give away our fish, the fishermen already sold their quotas years ago and I think you'll find the fish are sovereign in their own mind, we just steal them! Rules, we DID have a say as a member but going forward in a deal (which there WILL be eventually), we will accept the rules to comply and then will NOT have a seat at the rule making table.
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10/12/2020 15:10:42 1 0
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There are reasons why the fishermen sold their quotas, largely based on EU mass fishing making small players uncompetitive
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10/12/2020 10:14:10 91 69
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Liz Truss grinning like a head girl whose just won the inter-house hockey competition, just because she's nearly replicated the trading arrangements we previously had as EU members. That's good news? It's at best neutral news.
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10/12/2020 10:24:50 6 4
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It is only neutral news to those with an axe to grind.

Pfft. Trumpsters never quit.
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10/12/2020 10:09:13 95 46
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There is a world outside of the EU.
One that does not want to control every aspect of out existence.
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10/12/2020 10:25:04 7 11
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Maybe, but in the UK the gov want to control us more than the EU.
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10/12/2020 10:29:21 8 5
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Hardly surprising seeing as we are UK citizens, living in the UK under a UK government.

What part of them wanting to control UK affairs more than a third party surprises you?

Do you expect your next door neighbours to raise your children?

I despair at the faux-logic of Trumpsters.
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10/12/2020 14:08:54 1 2
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Well move to your beloved EU then!
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10/12/2020 15:11:38 0 0
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daft
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11/12/2020 10:51:58 0 0
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Time to get that foil hat out! They are listening you know.
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10/12/2020 10:22:20 24 10
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And, of course, it tells us that Singapore is keen to do business with us. Contrary to the opinions of some who can't accept our democratic decision, just because we've left the EU does NOT mean we've faded away.
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10/12/2020 10:26:05 13 11
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All it means is Singapore want to continue to do business/protect their existing investment within the UK. When it comes to changing the terms in future the UK will face an up hill struggle (as it will with all countries) - The EU is by far the larger trading block & 3rd countries will not want to favor the UK at risk of damaging their relationship with the EU.
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10/12/2020 18:59:27 0 0
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Did anybody explain this to Johnson and Gove?
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10/12/2020 10:01:29 38 8
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Well, logically it would mirror it - or would you prefer it to be less comprehensive and possibly a worse deal ?
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10/12/2020 10:26:08 8 5
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Surely it should be a better deal otherwise not much point in all the costs and effort don't you think? Having a hissy fit and replacing like with like isn't anything to brag about or maybe it's just me? Wasn't brexit about sunlit uplands rather than the same grey skies and rain?
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10/12/2020 11:55:11 5 1
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How much will we have to pay Singapore year on year for this deal? Currently we are paying a huge fee to the EU for the privilege of a trade deficit.
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10/12/2020 10:05:02 49 28
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Its not about support, its about economic reality
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10/12/2020 10:26:28 3 5
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So you don't support the UK?!
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10/12/2020 10:27:02 22 6
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We will pay down our deficit using the WTO tariffs. Every car made by the Germans and sold in the UK will provide revenue to the UK. The EU will collect tariffs from us (devalued pounds), but a lot less even of those. It does not make sense for the EU to be vindictive with a country that it had a trade surplus with. Protectionism is disastrous.
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10/12/2020 11:28:23 5 2
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Errr... we import more than we export (trade deficit).

So UK consumers end up paying so much more for EU goods, stoking inflation and increasing interest rates... which means (keep up with me, Brunobear) we pay more interest on our ballooning, sovereign debt.

Is that what you are advocating?
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10/12/2020 10:17:39 38 16
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A market of 650m people...why that's twice the size of the EU market...may not currently be the same level of trade...but the possibilities here...particularly for agriculture & fishing is enormous!

Seems the only people who don't want a free trade deal is...the EU!
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10/12/2020 10:27:30 6 4
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The EU have trade deals with other Asian countries and more are in the works. We are out of all of these.

There was much touting of the UK-Japan trade deal, but once people read the small print, it was found to be inferior to the EU-Japan deal. Just waiting for the same with this one.
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10/12/2020 15:19:43 0 0
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The EU's Japan deal will result in huge job losses as the car producers return to base. And their South America deal will result directly in much more Amazon deforestation, as farmers create more land for cattle production.
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KRR
10/12/2020 10:21:29 26 30
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We had a free trade deal with Singapore through the EU. Identical, pretty much, to this one. We don't gain by leaving the EU. We only lose.

And people like you still don't realise what you've done.
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BC
10/12/2020 10:27:44 5 4
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hahaha not the old "people like you..." argument again. Gotta love the moral and intellectual superiority on show there
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10/12/2020 10:18:56 6 3
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So if nothing changes, what was the point in ending up with costs in the last 4 years that exceed the 40+ years of contributions to the EU, to end up with the same deal in effect and without the others, including the main one which is our main market? Brexiteer logic is if nothing else, interesting to try to figure out. Wait, logic and Brexit, what an oxymoron.
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10/12/2020 10:28:04 1 3
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I think Brexiteers would rather be poorer paying UK gov lots of money to do deals that they already less for under the EU
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10/12/2020 10:28:36 6 13
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UK and Singapore sign free trade agreement

=hahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Singapore ?????? a tiny dot you could hardly find it from the map??

So UK would lose EU the largest free trade partner soon and instead go for countries like Singapore ??? what Singapore trade with the UK then??? standard English language

hohohohoho

So desperate
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10/12/2020 10:31:51 5 2
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you are indeed!
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10/12/2020 10:19:11 3 0
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Because we have left Eu and their treaties are no longer ours to use...Doh, wake up
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10/12/2020 10:28:40 1 2
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Our treaties that we paid for are no longer ours to use so we have to pay again?
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10/12/2020 10:49:39 4 0
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My gym membership helped pay for new weights and rowing machines. After I cancelled my membership they wouldn't let me use the equipment even though I paid for it.
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10/12/2020 09:57:55 66 39
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More good news. We should support the country we live in, or live in the country we support.
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10/12/2020 10:28:48 4 7
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Why should I offer support (as in giving business to...) those businesses owned by people with fundamentally opposing views who have significantly altered my future choices, finances, hopes etc.? How about "NO!" Equally, I'm sure they wouldn't want to lower themselves by accepting money from me, nope, they wouldn't that i'm sure. Divided country, what a result.
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10/12/2020 10:47:04 4 4
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so when are you leaving the UK then as why should you stay in a country with fundamentally opposing views?
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11/12/2020 08:06:55 0 0
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I think you need to move on. It's time.
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10/12/2020 10:23:41 10 20
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How is better to bear the cost of this independently when we could share the cost with others?
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10/12/2020 10:29:00 25 13
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oh my god, the UK pays X billion a year to be in the EU. It then, each year has a trade deficit of 100billion+ for the privilege. The deals we are signing now as an independent nation don't have these bills attached to them. Also Singapore don't want to have say over our laws or the UK waters for a deal. I wonder why the EU do - are they scared of something?
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10/12/2020 10:41:37 11 9
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These new trade deals are not going to change the trade deficit. We dont manufacture anything to export any more.... In fact, the trade deficit will likely grow even more - without equivalence for financial services in the EU we will not be able to export them any more.....
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10/12/2020 11:10:50 6 5
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Really?
you cant see a difference between the EU and Singapore? ( hint - one is nearly 50% of our trade)
You dont know what our EU contribution is for either?
Why dont you google how much friction less trade with the EU saves the UK EVERY year? ( Hint - that alone is worth 20x our EU contribution)
And any trade deal can end up with a deficit or a surplus - that is not the EUs fault.
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10/12/2020 19:59:50 0 0
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The bill you dislike is about 0.4% of GDP. Being an EU member made us attractive to business, good value for such a small investment. Its like earning £10k a week & moaning that 40 quid is too much top pay for frictionless trade, efficient supply chains & access to the biggest market just off our shore and not half way round the planet. Google 'Economic Gravity'.
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10/12/2020 10:17:39 38 16
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A market of 650m people...why that's twice the size of the EU market...may not currently be the same level of trade...but the possibilities here...particularly for agriculture & fishing is enormous!

Seems the only people who don't want a free trade deal is...the EU!
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sjb
10/12/2020 10:29:19 3 0
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Not sure where your figure of 650m people comes from? Singapore has a population of under 6m. Japan, the other country mentioned in the article has a population 130m - still no where near your figure of 650m.
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10/12/2020 12:31:36 1 0
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@Assynt can't read! or can, but lacks comprehension. the article states:

"The agreement is also the UK's first with a member of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.

The 10-country bloc is home to 650 million people and, prior to the pandemic, was a key growth region."

so the 650million are in ASEAN, not Singapore. the trade agreement rollover is with Singapore, not with the ASEAN
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10/12/2020 10:25:04 7 11
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Maybe, but in the UK the gov want to control us more than the EU.
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10/12/2020 10:29:21 8 5
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Hardly surprising seeing as we are UK citizens, living in the UK under a UK government.

What part of them wanting to control UK affairs more than a third party surprises you?

Do you expect your next door neighbours to raise your children?

I despair at the faux-logic of Trumpsters.
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10/12/2020 10:17:40 13 11
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Lots of Political capital, time & money being spent for what?! To replicate exactly what we already had within the EU?!
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10/12/2020 10:29:55 1 1
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There are other costs than financial.
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10/12/2020 10:39:18 0 0
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name some.....
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10/12/2020 10:30:30 7 5
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everyone is worried about food supplies, nearly all food is made in britain anyway, just look at aldi as an example, it's only going to be materialistic goods or luxury items that go up in price and I thought the left wing didn't like those anyway
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10/12/2020 10:33:51 3 3
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You clearly do not eat tomatoes & many other fruit except in summer
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10/12/2020 10:31:16 4 4
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The best we can do post-brexit is to tread water, so we better get on with it.
However, if Truss is the best we have to offer, we will soon be drowning, not waving.
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10/12/2020 10:28:36 6 13
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UK and Singapore sign free trade agreement

=hahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Singapore ?????? a tiny dot you could hardly find it from the map??

So UK would lose EU the largest free trade partner soon and instead go for countries like Singapore ??? what Singapore trade with the UK then??? standard English language

hohohohoho

So desperate
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10/12/2020 10:31:51 5 2
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you are indeed!
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10/12/2020 10:30:30 7 5
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everyone is worried about food supplies, nearly all food is made in britain anyway, just look at aldi as an example, it's only going to be materialistic goods or luxury items that go up in price and I thought the left wing didn't like those anyway
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10/12/2020 10:33:51 3 3
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You clearly do not eat tomatoes & many other fruit except in summer
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10/12/2020 10:38:05 1 0
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clearly you haven't been in a supermarket and seen the shelves and shelves and shelves of british food compared to french mustard boxes, strawberries are in aldi at the moment in winter, clearly glasshouse grown but we can grow whatever we want whenever we want
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pdl
10/12/2020 13:21:04 0 0
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Eat uk produce in season,cheaper,less co2,profit to our farmers---sorted
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10/12/2020 16:11:51 0 0
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All fruit and veg are seasonal , and supermarkets buy from all over the world ,when they are at their best ,they are not all from Spain as made out by the remoaners, next time you buy, check out country of origin ,you will be suprised how fresh the fruit is having travelled from south America and africa, and are not held up by customs ,and will not be come jan 1st
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10/12/2020 10:34:49 18 13
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Wow! Amazing! How about signing a deal with the EU our biggest trading partner.
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10/12/2020 10:40:55 14 8
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The EU says no.
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10/12/2020 10:35:33 4 4
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So - we are still catching up with all the EU treaties we lose benefits from on 1 Jan

Halfway there after 4 years with 3 weeks to go.....
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10/12/2020 10:40:39 8 1
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The UK were not allowed to negotiate there own trade deals while they were still in the EU and they didn't leave until this year.
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10/12/2020 10:24:15 7 7
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Imo the 2 year Article 50 process on future trade deals was contrary to natural justice. It was bad enough that UK could not line up deals with 3rd countries but EU itself refused to talk future trade until after UK had left. Where was the 'level' playing field when WE needed one.
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10/12/2020 10:36:17 1 0
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It's your project - own it!
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10/12/2020 10:36:39 5 3
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We were promised so much more than a Zero Sum game, but they can't even deliver that
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10/12/2020 10:04:58 4 2
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Haha... I see the Beeb have this one buried way under Business. Had this deal fallen through it would be a headline article for a week.
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10/12/2020 10:04:43 176 99
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Another deal signed, after Iceland and Norway, yet this positive move forward is hidden away at the foot of the page.
I wonder why, BBC ?
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10/12/2020 10:06:32 9 3
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Because these are fairly minor nations on the world stage. But good news nevertheless
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10/12/2020 10:46:55 4 5
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And we will be too, were deluding ourselves if we think differently