Brexit: 'Large gaps' remain after trade talks with Ursula von der Leyen
10/12/2020 | news | politics | 11,332
Sunday becomes the new deadline for a decision on trade talks, after the PM and EU chief meet in Brussels.
Is anyone else having fantasies about Ursula von der Leyen ?

She can trade my deal anytime....
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Nice MILF / GILF ? :) Removed
Good looking intelligent women have always done it for me too :) Removed
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I new Europhiles were delusional... But that's just sick!
Lol
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Not after 7 kids! Removed
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09/12/2020 20:26:05 597 165
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Look at the state of Bunter in this photo? He looks like he just got out of bed and not dressed properly. Lets hope there is a EU trade deal for everyone’s sake.
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09/12/2020 20:28:52 518 691
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No thank you. WTO with the EU, let Macron explain why France no longer has a fishing industry. Bon voyage.
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09/12/2020 20:28:56 11 75
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Look at the state your in lol remoaner
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09/12/2020 20:30:53 40 4
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Nanny obviously didn't travel to Brussels. Check your flies man!
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09/12/2020 20:51:50 42 7
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He looks like Benny Hill...... and when he opens his mouth he sounds like Benny Hill
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09/12/2020 20:53:01 11 30
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What a stupid comment
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09/12/2020 21:04:32 10 21
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I do find it interesting that if you look at other websites such as ITV news, they have a normal photo of both the PM and the european president, I didn't think it before but I really do think the BBC like to make fun of the PM and always go for the negative news article wherever possible, there is a lot to be happy about at the moment, good news about covid etc, not all doom and gloom.
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09/12/2020 21:26:00 14 5
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Might we club together and buy him a comb? I'm embarrassed to be represented by this walking car crash.
09/12/2020 21:48:16 4 9
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But I guess you would sell out the UK to get it
09/12/2020 21:48:21 5 2
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Tune into next weeks installment of Billy Bunter's Big Brexit mystery, where we try to find out what happened to the fabled £350m per week
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09/12/2020 22:26:29 2 1
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We can’t judge on appearances these days
09/12/2020 22:31:46 5 0
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But i'm not in this photo.....
09/12/2020 22:41:20 2 2
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Now now. Less of the insults bitter one.
09/12/2020 22:50:04 0 0
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It is not very nice to ridicule people who suffer, what are to them, very real and terrifying phobias. Boris Johnson's just happens to be combs.
09/12/2020 23:09:06 1 1
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That's what he usually looks like when he's got out of someone else's bed and has to scarper quick when her husband got home early.
09/12/2020 23:40:32 3 4
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It is so childish to mock a person's appearance. It demonstrates your ideas vacuum. Nothing useful to say.
09/12/2020 23:41:13 2 4
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I prefer his look, than a president of the EU, who tries to show their power, wearing a blue star face mask, so laughable. As the EU hasn't any other problems to solve, than printing specially designed face masks.
09/12/2020 23:55:51 2 1
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Its lie I think. The Tories don't want a deal and Boris is just the theatrical figurehead for that. The shuttle diplomacy is just public relations to make the calamity of no deal acceptable to the average person. What about the outcome of Brexit would the RULERS of England find objectionable, none of it. It makes the Uk easier to rule and massive pain to society just a necessity of restructuring.
10/12/2020 01:53:23 0 2
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WE VOTED LEAVE A DEAL is illegal as it altered the result.Funny that the fanatic remain mob IGNOR that LAW and wanted to OVERTURN THE VOTES OF 17.4 MILLION leave voters.MAYS treason law is OK and OUR LAW has disenfranchised the votes of 17.4 million people.UK DEMOCRACY is DEAD.it is a waste of time voting when the ELITE can just ALTER THE RESULT.
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09/12/2020 20:26:12 24 29
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Yet another Brexit article getting HYS option.
Could it be that the bbc is biased?
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09/12/2020 20:31:36 23 4
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In what way? How does offering a HYS apply a bias?
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09/12/2020 20:39:18 2 6
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No doubts remain on that . It continues to double down in its EU favouritism in the hope that the appeal this has to parts of its audience will protect its funding .
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09/12/2020 20:40:06 2 4
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Ever so slightly... hopefully the licence fee will be scrapped

Boris can't give in now to the ridiculous EU demands
No deal
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09/12/2020 20:26:19 18 25
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I see new agreement with Iceland, Norway and Kenya has been reached.... Over fishing lol.
Bon voyage EU.
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09/12/2020 20:27:21 23 12
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totally deranged
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09/12/2020 20:36:13 4 2
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Are you on meds? If not you should be saddo!
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09/12/2020 20:26:34 1852 517
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They said it was about free trade,taking back control and global Britain...

We ended up with a border around Kent, blocked ports, a customs border in the Irish Sea between two parts of the UK and the Union in doubt.
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09/12/2020 20:31:13 636 1064
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The Union was in doubt before 2016....the SNP had 57/59 seats in Scotland. A customsborder on a handful of agricultural goods as a compromise to the Good Friday agreement., and there has always been a border in Kent.
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09/12/2020 20:33:55 89 293
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No, that's temporary until trade shifts to CANZUK and Asia markets.
Look at the deals the UK did today with Iceland, Norway and Kenya.
We get you're a Europhile and a neoliberalist. But we're pro democracy and anti neoliberalism.
Sorry. :)
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09/12/2020 20:35:46 251 93
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And globally everyone either hates us, sees us as insignificant, or at the very least a joke.

Sovereign Empire?

Dream on!
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09/12/2020 20:35:11 45 172
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why you worried about Irish Bridge lorries stranded in Kent?
That's the EU's problem.
incidentally, less than 25% of import\export traffic passes through Kent, and almost half of that is Irish Land Bridge traffic.
Your brainwashed . the truth and transparency will come to you later in life when you are 74.. ( if you reach that age )
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09/12/2020 20:48:26 18 60
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you make it sound like a bad thing
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09/12/2020 21:11:05 22 72
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Now dear, get off your soap box & take your pills. Time you popped yourself off to bed..

I appreciate that some remainers on here haven't accepted the result after 4yrs and are still winging instead of commenting about the sort of post-Brexit deal they want, what should be negotiated away to get a fair one & where should the line be drawn.

BBC doesn't help with 4 Brexit HYS's a day, but still!
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09/12/2020 21:17:59 69 10
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Spot on! Let's not forget who "They" are ...... and let's make sure they know who we are ...... if and when it all goes wrong, let's make sure that Nigel Paul Farage and Boris DePiffelPaffel Johnson, along with all the other protagonists who gambled with OUR country, for their own gain, are held to account.
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09/12/2020 21:22:15 24 73
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Why are so many people anti- UK? Is it possibly the result of 25+ years of the BBC's negative stance on all things British?
09/12/2020 22:02:00 23 2
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Yep. And still the quitters think that they know best and that they're the ones hard done to...
09/12/2020 22:04:23 3 14
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I often read these Brexit HYS to help with my insomnia. I’m not sure which side bore me the most. God knows what you all do for fun. Probably gardening. Seriously, all of you, get a life. I’m falling asleep even writing th...zzz
09/12/2020 22:12:36 1 12
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Fake news!
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09/12/2020 22:22:07 2 11
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Generalising again for your own agenda
09/12/2020 22:38:59 1 1
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What blocked ports? The UK has not left transition yet.
09/12/2020 22:44:21 0 5
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so?
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09/12/2020 20:27:08 144 51
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What is on the menu tonight - an oven ready ?d?e?a?l? meal?
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Funny and clever!!
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09/12/2020 21:15:21 6 17
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An oven ready, fair deal? Nope, that's not what the EU want.

They want to be stubborn and make us suffer, apparently to the delight of the remain voters on here?

Sad really.
09/12/2020 23:24:45 2 1
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It would have been great if they did not have anything for Boris because of his obsession with things being oven ready. Should have told him to bring his own.
09/12/2020 23:57:08 2 0
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no - it's fish !!!!
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Looks good for a WTO exit!!
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09/12/2020 20:30:08 32 11
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It may well end up as a No Deal Brexit. But "good" is certainly not a word I would associate with that outcome.
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09/12/2020 20:31:13 5 2
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Even better than that, Beth Rigby won’t be reporting (and I use that term loosely) for Sky. Happy days!
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09/12/2020 20:42:08 3 1
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Yes, it's the logical outcome. Been saying so for years....
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09/12/2020 20:38:30 4 2
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Lets hope so

Preferable to the unrealistic EU demands

The French can plunder someone else's waters
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09/12/2020 20:26:19 18 25
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I see new agreement with Iceland, Norway and Kenya has been reached.... Over fishing lol.
Bon voyage EU.
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09/12/2020 20:27:21 23 12
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totally deranged
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09/12/2020 20:34:52 4 5
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Europhiles are, deranged, bitter and sell outs. Lol
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09/12/2020 20:27:50 10 17
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"After removing their masks for a matter of seconds, the PM told his host "you run a tight ship here, Ursula"."

Says Johnson after commenting Brexit will be a Titanic success.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
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09/12/2020 20:28:15 18 18
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If my geography serves me well..................Isn't there a South Of France? On the Med??......Go fish there!!
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09/12/2020 20:30:56 7 3
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He isn't in France.
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09/12/2020 20:32:49 3 1
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The Med is dead. Stripped bare by years of over fishing.
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09/12/2020 20:33:52 4 3
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The UK takes 350m tonnes of fish per annum from EU waters, but only 300m tonnes are fished from UK waters.

Added to the fact we consume 410m tonnes of fish a year and its quick to see that we need access to EU waters as much as the EU needs access to ours.

We also only eat a few species of fish/crustaceans caught in UK waters.
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09/12/2020 20:36:54 3 2
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They prefer to plunder our more valuable fish stocks from our own waters
Hopefully not for much longer!
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09/12/2020 20:28:24 1503 389
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In his (for want of a better word) professional and personal life, he's proved that his word can't be trusted. He's a proven liar and cheat. His "career" has been one of a sensationalist journalist who has been repeatedly sacked from previous jobs because of his deceitful and untrustworthy nature. Yet he is the best we have to be our PM!?

We deserve what's coming for our complacency.
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09/12/2020 20:30:39 743 1298
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Bless, still butt hurt and salty.. The EU project is a failure, look at what's going on in the EU today, Brexit is the least of the EUs problems... Bon voyage
:)
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09/12/2020 20:32:08 31 73
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Change the record.
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09/12/2020 20:35:19 37 171
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Actually he is far better than any of the opposition leaders

His large majority at the elections proves you are in the minority

Boris could well be PM for another 9 years
Better get used to him
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SNP?
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09/12/2020 21:15:21 1 10
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‘His’ for want of a better word? Illiterate.
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09/12/2020 21:15:26 26 10
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If this means the Tory party will be dead and buried forever, then eating gruel for many years will be a price worth paying. They are liars and cheats who are supported by people they don't care a damn about. People in Britain will suffer real hardship as a consequence of Brexit.
We elected him on mass
Get used to it you lefty idiot
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09/12/2020 21:52:03 2 3
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As Mr. Johnson is male, and you are talking about this life, his, being the male possessive pronoun, is a more than adequate word, indeed it is the perfect word. What other did you feel could be so much better for you to note the want of it?
09/12/2020 21:57:33 3 6
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You could have had Corbyn, thank God that didn't happen...
09/12/2020 22:08:13 1 1
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You only have to have looked at the alternatives then you can understand why he is there
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09/12/2020 22:23:02 0 6
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Not a liar an optimist and not a rem oh anger doomsday monger
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09/12/2020 22:27:16 0 0
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Politicians eh
09/12/2020 22:35:02 1 2
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Do you just cut and paste without thinking what you are writing?? Boring, want to be PM, stand and fight the hustings.
09/12/2020 22:43:35 0 1
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Why always us and not the EU? if they give us a ‘good deal’ it goes without saying others will follow. None of the new Eastern European Countries of course, better for them to stay. Original Common Market Countries too.However...cracks are there.
09/12/2020 22:46:18 1 5
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HE IS THE P.M. THE GOVERNMENTS SPOKESMAN NOT A DICTATOR, get a grip.
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09/12/2020 20:28:28 50 41
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Let’s hope boris isn’t buying dinner - the uk have spent enough on Europe as it is
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09/12/2020 20:29:07 32 9
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cost of everything, value of nothing
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09/12/2020 20:26:05 597 165
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Look at the state of Bunter in this photo? He looks like he just got out of bed and not dressed properly. Lets hope there is a EU trade deal for everyone’s sake.
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09/12/2020 20:28:52 518 691
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No thank you. WTO with the EU, let Macron explain why France no longer has a fishing industry. Bon voyage.
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moi
09/12/2020 20:34:39 35 0
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because he 's making land rovers in France
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09/12/2020 20:48:05 46 4
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You live in a dream world. The sensible would call it a nightmare world. Happy dreams.
Absolutely bang on. Eff off remainer losers. Removed
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09/12/2020 21:14:27 14 0
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They will still have one and we will have surplus fish to sell, but with a very reduced GDP.

Nice trade off .
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09/12/2020 21:17:21 16 1
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Have you heard the expression, “cutting your nose off to spite your own face”?
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09/12/2020 21:22:45 24 1
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Never understood why it is ok to follow WTO rules but not EU rules? Either option requires the UK to follow rules dictated by others.
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09/12/2020 21:23:17 24 3
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lol does ending each comment with 'bon voyage' make it feel like you've had the last word? You do realise 1066 was a particularly bad year for Britain, don't you, poppet.
09/12/2020 21:51:01 5 2
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We won't have one either because we won't be able to sell our fish
09/12/2020 21:54:57 9 2
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Hmm Fishing 400m pa 0.1% of UK economy , Financial service 128b pa . Yet Fishing wins coz its easy to motivate morons
09/12/2020 22:06:00 6 1
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Not quite... we both have a fishing industry, but they have a market to sell it to.
09/12/2020 22:09:41 4 2
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Just proving once more that your argument has little to do with reason and much to do with xenophobia. Today Macron, yesterday Merkel, tomorrow the Dutch? We'll teach the foreigners lesson if they don't submit to our demands, won't we? Unfortunately for you, the world is changing fast.
09/12/2020 22:15:54 6 2
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Think Brexiteer 1066 is still living in the 11th century.
09/12/2020 22:26:47 4 2
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You sad goon.
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09/12/2020 22:28:05 0 1
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I doubt he will cos the EU will take the blame not him. Cheeky cheese monkey.
09/12/2020 22:28:18 3 2
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How long will it be until you change your name Brexiteer 1066 I wonder.
09/12/2020 22:37:51 5 1
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You've not got a clue
09/12/2020 22:45:03 4 2
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We sell most of the fish to the EU. Doesn’t make sense to have no deal. Think about it over your fish and chips on Friday.
09/12/2020 22:48:07 4 3
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who will explain to our fishermen why they have no market to sell their fish
? When C19 hit in March fisherman could not sell their catch because international markets had dried up. The EU fleet will just fish outside of UK territorial waters instead so will have their supplies. We will be stuck with a load of fish we can't sell. Well done Boris, another fine (Eton) mess you have got us into!
09/12/2020 22:53:49 4 1
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clearly, you have not lived in the WTO world, I have, and it is grim...
09/12/2020 23:00:57 3 6
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Spot on, the EU don't want a deal, the message they want to send is that you can never leave the EU despite the fact it has wrecked the economies of Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal. Hungary and Poland want out, as they now see it for what it is, an exercise in control and obey or else. In 20 years or less it will be gone, not least because the Germans will be fed up paying for it.
09/12/2020 23:03:05 4 4
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More interesting will be the explanation to BMW and Mercedes why their largest export market now has a tariff and slows down
09/12/2020 23:34:13 4 0
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Fool...Fishing is just Farage etc’s sabre rattle ..it’s a fraction of the Uk and EU economy...we export most of what we catch to the EU ! Macron won’t give a flying f....fish ! ...He will be smiling at the inevitable decline in the UKs post Brexit economic & political influence..the biggest act of self harm since Van Gogh chopped his ear off ....worrying thing is Biden doesn’t give a fish either !
10/12/2020 00:06:10 1 0
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Why the 1066 - in celebration of the Norman invasion?
10/12/2020 00:34:31 2 0
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Where are you planning on selling all the fish that the UK catches but doesn't eat?
10/12/2020 00:56:10 3 1
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thanks for playing god with my finances.

your ignorance is outstanding.
10/12/2020 05:34:10 1 0
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The French fisherman will blockade channel ports and Macron will not stop them and there will be real panic in the UK early next year.
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You would think that as the leader of our country he would at least take his hands out of his pockets... this is, after all, the world stage, not an Eton common room
But then, he has had an education, you on the other hand.........?? Removed
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09/12/2020 20:58:07 38 4
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He is an entitled toff. What would you expect.
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09/12/2020 21:18:13 18 2
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The sad thing is Bozo The Buffoon is out on business. When in a room alone with one woman he thinks he’s pulled.
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09/12/2020 21:55:36 21 0
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If he took his hands out of his pockets, his trousers would fall down.

And bearing in mind Bojo's background, we *really* wouldn't want that this evening!
09/12/2020 22:28:35 10 23
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If you watch the TV footage, he was actually retrieving his face mask from his pocket at this point, having removed the mask for the photographs. But typical of the biased BBC, this photograph was chosen. So get your facts correct before making comments like this.
09/12/2020 22:55:45 3 28
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BoJo is looking very Churchillian. Cometh the man cometh the hour...soon. He just needs a Havana cigar for maximum effect. Go Boris, get the UK a great deal.l
09/12/2020 23:08:20 4 0
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He has his hands in his pocket looking for money to buy himself a haircut, sadly yet again he has no money.
09/12/2020 23:30:42 3 0
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Charlie Boy - that's the current next in line to the throne - always walks around with his hands in his pockets. Psychologically something to do with an inferiority complex
09/12/2020 23:42:35 0 3
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Is this the best you got? Let's forget Brexit because of Boris's hands.
10/12/2020 00:04:05 0 0
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There’s more important things afoot
10/12/2020 00:11:10 10 0
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His dress code is like his brain. A mess. The man is a disgrace at every level and I'm ashamed and embarrassed he's our PM.
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10/12/2020 01:11:36 0 0
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Why are pockets on trousers? To put one's hands in!!
10/12/2020 08:04:26 0 2
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BJ has to keep his hands in his pockets to prevent the EU picking g his pockets again.
10/12/2020 09:05:06 0 1
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Have you been in an Eton common room?
10/12/2020 09:19:40 1 0
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What do you expect when you have the likes of JRM who spreads himself out on the benches in parliament looking bored when opposition is speaking. All from the same mould
10/12/2020 09:21:46 0 0
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What??? Oh for Heaven's sake...
10/12/2020 09:46:14 2 0
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He looked like a bad Benny Hill impersonator. The man's a joke, and he still felt confident enough to try and undermine her position with flippant remarks.

If I were her, I would say "Let the comedian and his followers go, they can keep and eat their fish. If they want to come back, they can do so when they've grown up, and can behave in a manner that's befitting membership"
10/12/2020 10:18:48 1 0
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Born a clown always a clown,
10/12/2020 10:26:37 0 2
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He has his hands in his pockets to stop the EU picking them, like they have for the past forty years !!
10/12/2020 11:32:40 0 0
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have you been to Eton common room? they do not walk around with their hands in their pockets; thats more seen at a comp
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Look at the state of Bunter in this photo? He looks like he just got out of bed and not dressed properly. Lets hope there is a EU trade deal for everyone’s sake.
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09/12/2020 20:28:56 11 75
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Look at the state your in lol remoaner
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09/12/2020 20:37:29 1 25
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We're all in this together.
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09/12/2020 20:41:35 30 2
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You’re.
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09/12/2020 20:28:28 50 41
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Let’s hope boris isn’t buying dinner - the uk have spent enough on Europe as it is
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09/12/2020 20:29:07 32 9
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cost of everything, value of nothing
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09/12/2020 20:35:20 1 5
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Really not sure what value we get from the EU ??.
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09/12/2020 20:29:11 20 31
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No deal is a disaster for the UK but although I am a remainer I would actually not mind a no-deal: it will teach the Brexiteers a lesson.
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09/12/2020 20:32:06 18 2
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Isn’t that called cutting off your nose to spite your face?
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09/12/2020 20:33:53 6 2
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Sadly everyone is going to suffer because of it
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09/12/2020 20:32:29 3 2
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Even no deal is still far preferable to staying shackled to the EU

No deal is preferable to giving in to unreasonable demands from the EU
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09/12/2020 20:33:31 0 3
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Ever heard of the phrase 'cut your nose off to spite your face'?
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09/12/2020 20:56:28 0 0
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And I want BRINO to teach those anti democratic remainers a lesson
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09/12/2020 20:27:21 32 27
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Looks good for a WTO exit!!
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09/12/2020 20:30:08 32 11
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It may well end up as a No Deal Brexit. But "good" is certainly not a word I would associate with that outcome.
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09/12/2020 20:32:54 1 0
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It could go either way Bob
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09/12/2020 20:56:12 0 0
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for all their investments into roundtheclock troll factories it would be excellent result for putin and al though slightly darkened by tramp 2020 mishap.
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09/12/2020 20:30:17 15 15
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After four and a half years of these shenanigans, we are in a position where the most staunch brexiter or remainer would agree that everything which has been arranged could have been arranged within a month and that's generous. It makes you wonder what the cause of this absurd and pointless delay actually is. I would suggest that forces are at play which seek to overturn brexit at any cost.
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09/12/2020 20:32:00 3 5
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It's called negotiation
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09/12/2020 20:32:33 2 1
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It's a conspiracy!

Of course it is.
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In his (for want of a better word) professional and personal life, he's proved that his word can't be trusted. He's a proven liar and cheat. His "career" has been one of a sensationalist journalist who has been repeatedly sacked from previous jobs because of his deceitful and untrustworthy nature. Yet he is the best we have to be our PM!?

We deserve what's coming for our complacency.
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09/12/2020 20:30:39 743 1298
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Bless, still butt hurt and salty.. The EU project is a failure, look at what's going on in the EU today, Brexit is the least of the EUs problems... Bon voyage
:)
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09/12/2020 20:42:29 102 13
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Because of course, we are much better placed.

Our "top 10" economy relies on dodgy money and BoE aligned "Secrecy jurisdictions".

You will never see or benefit from this wealth.
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09/12/2020 20:59:32 126 13
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I've always wondered what people mean that the EU is a failure.... from my perspective I've never made so much money and had so much success when working from the UK alone. What exactly do you see as failing within the EU?
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09/12/2020 21:06:52 109 15
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How is cloud cuckoo land this evening. Looking forward to being poorer?
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09/12/2020 21:13:15 9 2
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Good look with your treatment.
09/12/2020 21:52:08 5 12
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Exactly mate. One of the main benefits of Brexit is hearing all the high pitched whining coming from the remainers and Macron.........priceless.
09/12/2020 21:55:59 9 5
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The EU has an all-time high approval rating.

I don't even know where you get this info from. The Express? Daily Mail? Telegraph?

We need them more than they need us.
09/12/2020 21:56:28 10 1
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Do you know much about the EU?
09/12/2020 22:02:39 3 1
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Nervous? Bitter? Defensive?
09/12/2020 22:05:01 2 4
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Well said, I totally agree with your opinion, its a shame that can`t be said for the ranks of haters that crowd the Brussels Broadcasting Corporations opinion columns.
09/12/2020 22:06:59 4 0
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Judging from the number of smartass, insulting and goading comments you've made, it's you with the emotional problems. The rest of us were trying to discuss politics and economics.
09/12/2020 22:13:46 4 0
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Apart from being sadly patronising, what's you point?
PS
09/12/2020 22:25:20 1 1
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Especially with Poland and Hungary benefiting from millions of € only to put a spanner in the EU financial COVID package cos they didn’t want to have domestic policy dictated. Oh how the children have grown up
09/12/2020 22:27:18 4 3
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Sail your own boat little englander.
09/12/2020 22:35:49 3 1
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So reply to a serious comment with playground taunts. Sums it up, God knows why they bent over backwards to do a deal with us
09/12/2020 22:39:42 2 1
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Your glad people will suffer?
Power and money the root of all evil !
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09/12/2020 20:31:48 15 2
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Don't forget religion
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09/12/2020 20:46:35 1 0
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I think Saint Paul said that it was the love of money that was the root of all evil. Subtle but important difference.
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09/12/2020 20:26:05 597 165
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Look at the state of Bunter in this photo? He looks like he just got out of bed and not dressed properly. Lets hope there is a EU trade deal for everyone’s sake.
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09/12/2020 20:30:53 40 4
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Nanny obviously didn't travel to Brussels. Check your flies man!
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09/12/2020 20:40:52 11 0
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Yuck!
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09/12/2020 20:28:15 18 18
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If my geography serves me well..................Isn't there a South Of France? On the Med??......Go fish there!!
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09/12/2020 20:30:56 7 3
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He isn't in France.
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09/12/2020 20:33:24 3 2
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I din't say he was??
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09/12/2020 20:30:58 724 130
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A good time to get that 'fantastic oven-ready deal' out of the fridge Boris?
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09/12/2020 20:38:20 500 584
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There was an oven ready deal available based on what Canada has. The problem was the eu didn’t want to offer that to an ex member who had paid up its subs for the last 40+ years.
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09/12/2020 20:54:12 9 18
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Tell that to the EU!
09/12/2020 21:50:52 26 51
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The oven ready deal was delivered 1st Jan this year
This was always much harder with the EU not wanting to give up control of the UK because they fear an independent UK
PS
09/12/2020 22:31:31 1 1
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Oven ready if the EU would agree to it. The way most people keep banging on about this so called deal meant there was no need for negotiations. Stupid or what?
09/12/2020 22:42:24 0 0
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Smells lovely.
09/12/2020 22:45:53 2 0
bbc
That was the withdrawal agreement. The deal had get to be agreed. And may not be.
09/12/2020 23:13:28 0 0
bbc
Boris has got to get his self out of the fridge.
09/12/2020 23:21:51 0 1
bbc
It is on the table and called Canada.
09/12/2020 23:48:55 2 1
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Anybody remember the abundance of cheap fish we used to have before the Dogger Bank, etc. were decimated by foreign fish boats we had no control over? Why give away what is left? We have World Trade regulations to deal with disputes, and we need to control of our own business regulations, not be forced to follow the EU. Face it, the EU only wants a deal if it retains effective control of the UK.
10/12/2020 00:00:19 3 1
bbc
The oven ready deal referred to the withdrawal agreement. Pay attention that was signed a year ago.
10/12/2020 00:19:05 0 0
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Otherwise known as it was half baked.
10/12/2020 00:47:22 0 0
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Anyone can declare they offer the best deal ever, but it takes two to make a deal, and until then it’s meaningless. The UK set off by insulting the EU from the beginning - hardly good negotiation tactics.
It was an oven ready deal because Brexit is a utter turkey.
10/12/2020 06:42:56 0 0
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Again someone picking out something that isn't related to negotiating the trade deal.
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09/12/2020 20:31:13 1177 367
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Boris is right, if what he is saying is true then the EU are asking for too much from UK.

... and I voted Remain.

The problem is Boris said himself that there was “a one in a million chance” of not getting a deal, along with many other lies on getting a good deal.

If the option was Remain Vs Hard Brexit then I’m sure remain would’ve been the outcome of the referendum.

We’ve been cheated.
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09/12/2020 20:33:01 815 208
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Cheated ?
Lied to !
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09/12/2020 20:36:35 22 7
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You have to read between the lines, i think.

Boris Johnson will always play the "UK is being victimised" card.

I agree with the fishing - we should have 100% control.

For other areas - if we passed a law, such as a change in a standard for the UK, won't we then expect exporters to the UK to adhere to it ?

If we change our system which undercuts others, then tariff's should be expected.
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09/12/2020 20:36:45 15 27
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Yeah, and of course: you “voted remain” too. Lol - is that the Tory party memo today? Lie that you “voted remain but....”
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BFG
09/12/2020 20:38:16 48 5
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"if what Boris is saying is true..."
Haha. Unlikely at best.
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09/12/2020 20:51:39 43 3
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Boris signed a withdrawal agreement that had the same clauses he now says no UK PM could sign.
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09/12/2020 20:58:19 24 35
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IMHO question was always Hard Brexit V Full integration in EU including single currency and joint army. Remain was always the wrong word... Nothing has ever remained still in the EU its always been about more centralisation. And if that had been the question then I'm not sure just what the vote would have been...
447
09/12/2020 21:05:44 37 5
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Well, this is Boris...he lies. All the EU are saying is that rulebreakers should face consequences. BJ threatened to break international law, so we're now untrustworthy.
501
09/12/2020 21:08:54 13 32
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There was a referendum for Brexit, unfortunately no referendum for entry to the EEC which then ambled into becoming the EU.
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09/12/2020 21:36:11 33 2
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The EU is offering the UK what has never before been offered to a third country ...tariff-free and quota-free access to the world's largest single market. Of course there is a price to be paid for that.
PS
09/12/2020 22:29:04 4 13
bbc
You haven’t been cheated you voted for the wrong side and now have to abide by the result of the referendum
09/12/2020 22:36:47 2 0
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And just how long did it take for the scales to fall from your eyes?
09/12/2020 22:39:59 5 12
bbc
You lost the vote. Not cheated. But keep telling yourself there would have been a different outcome. Nicola does the same about Indy ref every day.
09/12/2020 22:42:27 6 2
bbc
“If what he is saying is true...”. That’s a very big IF. Why would anyone believe that anything he ever says is true???
09/12/2020 22:43:38 13 1
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this was all predicted in 2016. It was just dismissed as project fear by those now trying to dodge accountability and blame everyone else for not agreeing to their deal.
09/12/2020 22:39:56 3 0
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Perfect explanation
09/12/2020 22:44:48 5 5
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And were you also cheated in the general election? What's that, you want a best of five?
09/12/2020 22:47:12 3 1
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mc, you say “ if what he is saying is true” - a tip: if you notice his lips moving, then it’s utter garbage. The last 4 years have taught us that.
09/12/2020 22:56:57 7 0
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Be realistic mate. These are big boy negotiations, for which the UK has a child.

The EU owe us nothing, they are trying to get the best for the EU what more do you expect?
09/12/2020 23:01:51 6 2
bbc
We’ve been cheated by the Conservative party, and the Brexit lunatics they harbour,
09/12/2020 23:06:24 4 7
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Why?

The one thing I notice about all remainers, is they seem to believe that everyone who voted leave was gullible in believing in a lie. The whole premise of the EU was to create a common market place, and with that, most of us have no problems. What I particularly have an issue with, is the constant push towards the EU super state, and the democratic deficit within the ruling elite.
09/12/2020 23:06:28 2 1
bbc
Not really. I think a hard brexit would have been more attractive, the prospect of a deal where we end up with zero tariffs on imports from the EU as now but no ability to offset some of the trade deficit with financial services put a lot of people off agreeing.
09/12/2020 23:09:19 5 2
bbc
You've not been cheated - we have learned that England and Wales are generally racist and narrow minded
09/12/2020 23:11:28 5 0
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I like the line above, "if what he (Boris) says is true". I think this is stretching the benefit of the doubt far to far. Boris is well versed in fabricating stories as a journalist. As an editor at the Spectator he gladly printed fake news regardless of the consequences.
09/12/2020 23:20:53 0 4
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We don't get our sovereignty back if the end result of negotiations still ties us to 'mother's' apron strings. True sovereignty means no obligations to other nations or non-elected power blocs.
09/12/2020 23:24:18 1 4
bbc
A deal was possible ,but the eu backpeddled. And few would.change their vote except to leave.
09/12/2020 23:38:39 0 2
bbc
If you lost it must be because you were cheated. How entitled are you?
09/12/2020 23:51:59 1 4
bbc
There’s no accounting for the EU being belligerent idiots I suppose .....maybe there should have been.
09/12/2020 23:55:49 0 4
bbc
Those were the options. The 17.4 million always knew there would be no chance of a deal with the EU. It is either in or out, there cannot be a halfway with any dictatorship, the EU are worse than the Soviet Union for the amount of control they demand over everyone's lives.
09/12/2020 23:57:09 1 4
bbc
We’ve not been cheated. All along we’ve heard No Deal is better than a bad deal. Our politicians are acting in our nations best interests inline with their mandate.
You just weren’t listening.
10/12/2020 00:08:42 2 0
bbc
"Boris … if … saying is true"

How can you seriously entertain such a thought—"if" "IF" if FFS!

BoJo saying something true is 2 things:
1) A mistake on his part;
2) A collector's item.
10/12/2020 00:09:48 1 4
bbc
Nobody was lied to, it was made very clear in the leaflet sent out by Cameron that voting leave meant leaving the Single Market and the Customs Union, if that's what you are calling a 'hard Brexit then that's what was promised.
10/12/2020 00:02:54 2 0
bbc
The EU isn't asking for anything. The UK is doing the asking as in "can we have a trade deal please?"
10/12/2020 00:20:40 1 4
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The deal he promised was the Withdrawal agreement, which he secured effortlessly. The EU, however, have made it clear that they'll use some amibiity in the withdrawal agreement to punish us if we don't agree to their trade deal, hence the amendment that everyone is faux outraged about. Our government has moved to stop them being able to do that.

You're welcome. The BBC won't tell you, so I will.
T
10/12/2020 01:17:05 0 1
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The question on the ballot paper was 'leave' or 'remain'. But now you want to retrospectively change the question. If Remain had won, you wouldn't be asking these questions.
10/12/2020 01:23:17 0 3
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YOU HAD ONE VOTE we all had one vote but remoan were arrogant and the day after the vote they would not accept democracy.Once you overturn peoples votes there is no point in voting?
.A DEAL is actually a CRIMINAL OFFENCE the reason is there were two LEGAL options.NO WORD OR BOX TO TICK FOR DEAL.it is crime offence to alter or destroy the votes.
10/12/2020 01:26:31 0 2
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And you don't believe in democracy.....
10/12/2020 02:45:29 2 0
bbc
'the EU are asking for too much from UK'

Do we want tariff free access to the massive EU market or not?
EU members pay a price for that and obey rules to protect it.
UK wants the access but no price nor rules.
Are the EU 27 likely to agree to that?
UK is simply asking for something the EU can't possibly approve.
A lot more pragmatism from Boris or it's ruinous WTO for us.
10/12/2020 04:25:59 2 0
bbc
Who is this 'Boris' character, he is not your mate, he is supposed to be the PM and if he were your mate you'd know him as Al.
10/12/2020 06:32:48 0 1
bbc
The choice was remain or leave, fortunately the vast majority of Britain chose leave time and again in various elections and referendum. We chose it, we own it and we will bask in the different country we become.
10/12/2020 06:40:48 0 2
bbc
Rubbish. The vote would have been to leave anyway.
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09/12/2020 20:27:21 32 27
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Looks good for a WTO exit!!
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09/12/2020 20:31:13 5 2
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Even better than that, Beth Rigby won’t be reporting (and I use that term loosely) for Sky. Happy days!
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09/12/2020 20:26:34 1852 517
bbc
They said it was about free trade,taking back control and global Britain...

We ended up with a border around Kent, blocked ports, a customs border in the Irish Sea between two parts of the UK and the Union in doubt.
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09/12/2020 20:31:13 636 1064
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The Union was in doubt before 2016....the SNP had 57/59 seats in Scotland. A customsborder on a handful of agricultural goods as a compromise to the Good Friday agreement., and there has always been a border in Kent.
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09/12/2020 20:35:48 252 41
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No there hasn't. For the last 40 years there was no border between the UK & France. For the last 1000 years there was no border between Kent and the rest of England. In both cases there are now.
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09/12/2020 20:46:14 110 12
bbc
You invent false rationalities as you go along don't you? Very poor indeed.
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09/12/2020 21:02:16 15 18
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I agree with your sentiments and frankly feel that after all the opinions, praises, criticisms etc., it is better to wait until 31st December and see what happens since none of our comments are going to make a scrap of difference to the outcome. Better to calm down and avoid unnecessary heart attacks.
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09/12/2020 21:14:41 14 35
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Fine independence for England then. That is the answer. Ireland Scotland Wales go you're own way.
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MJM
09/12/2020 21:29:41 30 1
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All shipments of anything going to Northern Ireland from GB will be subject to customs declarations and other paperwork. Just because food was in the news today doesn’t mean it’s the only commodity affected.
09/12/2020 21:49:06 5 12
bbc
Steady now, you're talking sense and that just won't do on here.
09/12/2020 22:11:19 3 0
bbc
Would that be a border in the Kent countryside Trevor, or in the cXnt Kentryside?
09/12/2020 22:17:23 10 0
bbc
No there wasnt but you brexiteers dont even realise that
09/12/2020 22:34:51 3 1
bbc
This has played right into Nicola's hands though and boy has she run with it.
09/12/2020 22:35:33 2 4
bbc
SNP had 57 seats in Scotland on 45% of the vote. That is the weakness of First Past the Post. 55% of Scots vote for other parties other than SNP, all of them support the union but this vote is split over 3 parties.
09/12/2020 22:44:51 9 2
bbc
But there's going to be a border to get into Kent from the rest of England: the Government has said that lorry drivers will need a permit to enter Kent to prevent congestion at the ports and on the approach roads
3
09/12/2020 20:26:12 24 29
bbc
Yet another Brexit article getting HYS option.
Could it be that the bbc is biased?
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09/12/2020 20:31:36 23 4
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In what way? How does offering a HYS apply a bias?
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09/12/2020 20:31:37 13 16
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Pointless HYS again, BBC creating division once more.
65
09/12/2020 20:35:15 14 10
bbc
If anyone has created division in our U.K. it’s the man in the picture. Johnson should be jailed.
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09/12/2020 20:31:45 24 23
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I’m a remained, but the way the EU - and Macron in particular - have held the UK to ransom is a disgrace.

No deal. Damn the consequences. At least we can hold our heads high.
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09/12/2020 20:33:52 11 5
bbc
Yeah course you voted remain.......
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09/12/2020 20:34:20 4 1
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The UK left before negotiations started. That created the ransom. Stupidity
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09/12/2020 20:35:10 3 2
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Your not even British judging by your post.
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09/12/2020 20:43:34 1 1
bbc
The EU is beginning to remind me of a cult that’s its v difficult to extricate yourself from
Power and money the root of all evil !
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09/12/2020 20:31:48 15 2
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Don't forget religion
Which religion are you talking about be specific please ?
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09/12/2020 20:31:52 16 11
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I hope he brushed up on his table manners and does not let us down by trying it on with poor Ursula. What on earth has she done to deserve a visit by Boris
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09/12/2020 20:30:17 15 15
bbc
After four and a half years of these shenanigans, we are in a position where the most staunch brexiter or remainer would agree that everything which has been arranged could have been arranged within a month and that's generous. It makes you wonder what the cause of this absurd and pointless delay actually is. I would suggest that forces are at play which seek to overturn brexit at any cost.
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09/12/2020 20:32:00 3 5
bbc
It's called negotiation
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09/12/2020 20:29:11 20 31
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No deal is a disaster for the UK but although I am a remainer I would actually not mind a no-deal: it will teach the Brexiteers a lesson.
34
09/12/2020 20:32:06 18 2
bbc
Isn’t that called cutting off your nose to spite your face?
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09/12/2020 20:33:55 5 1
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Depends if you are short £.
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09/12/2020 20:39:44 4 3
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Yes, but when you read the Brexiteers statements on here, they think it is great, and just don't care about others.
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09/12/2020 20:53:47 0 0
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Of course I have, but this also applies to those who voted for Brexit, lose their job (at Nissan) and cannot afford it. (I actually do not have these worries).
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09/12/2020 20:32:07 606 198
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So the future of the country, our ability to work, study and trade in Europe, even the availability of fresh food next month, all comes down to whether a grinning clown feels like risking everything on no-deal, or making the necessary compromises and facing the wrath the Brexit cult. So much for the UK having wise leadership. Our electoral system put us in this mess, so it badly needs changing.
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09/12/2020 20:53:23 138 328
bbc
Bring back comrade Corbin huh, he will get it sorted.
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09/12/2020 20:53:23 4 6
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It was rejected !!
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09/12/2020 21:19:41 16 3
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Remember he is only there because people voted for him and Brexit. That's who is to blame
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09/12/2020 21:28:09 10 32
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Corbyn caused this blood@ mess.
09/12/2020 22:50:07 0 2
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Fresh food is overrated.
Sid
09/12/2020 23:01:22 1 6
bbc
A democratically elected clown with a party with less public school elected MPs than Labour. Could be worse Comrade Corbyn could be making the decisions
09/12/2020 23:26:54 4 5
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This is all nonsense. Only a small percentage of the very privileged study in the EU. Very few can work there beyond those in unskilled menial jobs because they don’t have the language skills. We can grow our own fresh food and we can still trade with the EU on WTO terms. Stop being such a drama queen and stop peddling falsehoods.
09/12/2020 23:46:01 2 3
bbc
If tyou don't like the result, it must be the system? That sounds logical.We are getting what we voted for, over and over an over. Out. For the future of our country, our ability to work, study and trade. Go out and buy some loo rolls.
10/12/2020 02:05:54 2 5
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WHINGE WHINE BORE.Love the sound of your own voice You are never wrong are you? More Project fear.Sick of it and sick of you whingers.back your Country done t]stab it in the back as you do. As fir trading with Europe stop being ridiculous of we will trade with Europe like the rest of the world do UNDER WTO RULES A FREE PEOPLE AND A SOVEREIGN NATION..
10/12/2020 02:17:27 3 3
bbc
codswallop, do you think producers from the EU will not want a slice of our market still when we leave gtfo.
10/12/2020 08:11:20 3 1
bbc
Don't worry it will change - the torries will put through a motion that they remain in power until they decide otherwise - we are moving to a dictatorship haven't you noticed?
10/12/2020 08:12:02 1 2
bbc
That is democracy. It gave the USA four years of trump and it gave us bojo and Brexit. You couldn't make it up.
10/12/2020 08:46:21 1 3
bbc
The electoral system didn’t fail - lazy arrogant voters who didn’t turn out fed to this. People who voted to leave made the effort and got the result they wanted. Simple
10/12/2020 08:51:56 1 2
bbc
Cut and paste do you have a job or you a bbc intern
10/12/2020 09:11:45 1 2
bbc
And what would you change it to? People who lose elections always want to change the system.
10/12/2020 09:13:48 0 2
bbc
if you dont like Brexit and the uk as it is , them leave the uk and go and live in Europe . This country doesnt want to be dictated to by anyone for the sake of allowing mass immigration and a decline in living standards under pro EU labour and liberals .
10/12/2020 09:25:16 0 1
bbc
No of course it doesn't. You'll still be able to live and work there if you're prepared to make the effort and have the right qualifications, same as other countries you're not a citizen of. It's down to YOU, not someone else.
GG
10/12/2020 09:43:14 0 2
bbc
Its not nice to call Macron a Grinning Clown. That's just being rude.
10/12/2020 10:28:22 1 2
bbc
Electoral system distorted and electorate betrayed, lied to. Tory candidates pre-selected to vote for brexit at any cost; decent experienced Tories thrown out because 'failed' to obey BJs demands. System corrupted, by brexiteer (& cummings). Line that up with US/Trump. I strongly suspect a movement to destroy democracies and EU. Who benefits? Not the people.
10/12/2020 10:31:59 1 2
bbc
No matter what, we will still be able to work, study and trade in Europe. That happened for thousands of years before the EU existed and it will be the case now, and after the EU disappears.
10/12/2020 10:41:04 1 1
bbc
Johnson is weak. Cannot say "No" or "Yes" to a deal because of his Backbenchers. But it is Brexiters that put him into this situation and voters who put him in that position. He saw an opportunity and took it. History will be his judge.
10/12/2020 11:39:32 0 1
bbc
No, all of those things happened before we joined the EEC and will happen afterwards oh Mighty Emperor Curmudgeon - sorry can't see your name now without remembering your post re 'democracy' las night. I was classic. BBC should print it , frame it and sell it, and send a copy to Tom Lehrer to go up alongside 'Kissinger's Nobel Peace Prize' report.
10/12/2020 12:14:40 0 1
bbc
That is horrible to call Ursula von der Leyen a grinning clown. That is so a sexist and horrible comment to make
10/12/2020 17:09:29 0 0
bbc
Don't believe the lies that we'll be starving. Stop spreading this nonsense.
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09/12/2020 20:32:08 4 11
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Gove indicated earlier that the UK was willing to compromise on fishing. Both sides know they won't agree anything on ECJ and Fair Trade today, but both are looking for a way to not end up a No Deal. So here's what will happen. A deal will be done on fishing - which means an extension into 2021 to discus ECJ and Fair Trade.

It will just be a Tory ploy to carry on talks and avoid a no deal
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09/12/2020 20:38:51 1 1
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Both Boris and Von Leyen have got their negotiators with them at this meeting. Both I'm betting to witness a signing of a deal
Hope is the last thing to die , never give up hope ,, things are not that bad ,,, Support your local shops , firms and companies ! instead of shopping online if you can help it .
09/12/2020 23:28:20 35 80
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"Support your local shops , firms and companies ! instead of shopping online if you can help it ."

Would love to but Bozo keeps closing the local shops and businesses everytime sir Sh@gnasty Ferguson cooks up a dodgy epidemiological model.
10/12/2020 06:45:09 7 12
bbc
Love to. But buying on the internet saves me having to go out looking like I'm about to perform heart surgery.

When the mask religion is destroyed, I'll be back in local stores
xlr
10/12/2020 08:26:22 6 1
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Supporting local shops is a luxury for people who have disposable income. I worked from 8am to 7pm yesterday, and yet I can barely pay my bills, and I'm an educated aspirer who's been in a job most of his life. I'll be getting what's cheapest*, thankyou.

(* Provided it isn't some American crap that sacrifices my health for my wallet.)
10/12/2020 10:56:59 0 1
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My hope is fading rapidly. There are few local shops round my way, everybody does their food shopping in the big supermarkets now. Boris Johnson is sleepwalking us towards personal financial problems. Somebody needs to wake him up.
10/12/2020 17:12:48 0 0
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Yes piles of great food, people to help in local shops. BRITISH PRODUCTS ARE PROVEN TO BE JUST AS GOOD OR BETTER. HAVEN'T BOUGHT FRENCH WINE OR FRUIT FOR YEARS.. AM STILL OK..
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09/12/2020 20:32:29 16 15
bbc
No deal should include a mandate to follow future standards of which you have no part forming. Tht is an outraageous request.
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09/12/2020 20:48:53 8 2
bbc
Do you believe everything every dodgy spiv tells you? Or just the ones that stand up in Parliament to spin their lies?
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09/12/2020 21:18:58 0 0
bbc
Is it though? If you want ongoing unfettered access to a club you've left, how else could it work. Fine if you no longer want that access, but there's a high price to pay economically.
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09/12/2020 20:30:17 15 15
bbc
After four and a half years of these shenanigans, we are in a position where the most staunch brexiter or remainer would agree that everything which has been arranged could have been arranged within a month and that's generous. It makes you wonder what the cause of this absurd and pointless delay actually is. I would suggest that forces are at play which seek to overturn brexit at any cost.
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09/12/2020 20:32:33 2 1
bbc
It's a conspiracy!

Of course it is.
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09/12/2020 20:32:33 1019 303
bbc
Just as well Johnson is flying. Dover and Calais are completely grid locked.

Some trucks are heading up to Zeebrugge but all ports are experiencing the same.

There are 20,000 angry truck drivers who would like a word with Farage and Johnson.
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09/12/2020 20:40:18 540 884
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All to do with COVID not brexit
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09/12/2020 20:40:55 2 21
bbc
Trumper speaks the truth
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09/12/2020 20:53:16 17 79
bbc
Ah, but nowt to with Brexit. Have a word with the Chinese re Covid perhaps?
449
09/12/2020 21:05:46 9 7
bbc
Maybe a word in the ear of Mr Barnier also.
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09/12/2020 21:06:15 9 18
bbc
I guess you are reporting this drivel from first hand experience.
09/12/2020 21:53:09 3 22
bbc
Covid pet, not Brexit.....
09/12/2020 21:58:42 3 12
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Nice speech, but your lying.. Please be honest when trying to make a political point otherwise you just look stupid...
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09/12/2020 22:26:01 2 3
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Hadn’t heard this on the 6 o’clock news must be you generalising
09/12/2020 22:34:22 2 13
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Now’t to do with Brexit chuck!
Den
09/12/2020 22:29:30 1 0
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Hopefully they will get their chance to "have a word" real soon.
09/12/2020 22:37:10 1 5
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Ha ha. Get over it.
bob
09/12/2020 22:37:26 0 9
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i was going to correct you but your remainer ignorance shines through
09/12/2020 22:39:00 0 1
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Most of them probably voted for Brexit.
CDB
09/12/2020 22:39:44 2 2
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And that is before the French Fishing Boats blockade the Ports
09/12/2020 22:41:44 1 1
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I live in Dover...no gridlock here?
09/12/2020 22:42:38 1 2
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They should have a word more likely with the UK's previous europhile PMs who put all our eggs into the English SE ports re oversees trade route at the expense of ports in the NE and NW of England.
09/12/2020 22:43:42 2 3
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Fake news. Biggest port in the US is similarly affected. Or is that Brexit too?
09/12/2020 22:47:26 1 4
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The ports BLOCKED has nothing to do with Brexit.
09/12/2020 22:51:33 4 3
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According to this evening's local Kent news on the BBC, what truck drivers are angry about it the increasingly violent and aggressive tactics of would be migrants trying to get into their lorries.

Haven't any of the HYS virtual signallers told them that the UK is for the scrap heap any they shouldn't come?
09/12/2020 22:52:47 2 3
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Nothing to do with Brexit. I work in shipping and import/export into the EU; it’s because of Covid. Delays at all major global ports and a shortage of vessels.
09/12/2020 22:56:53 0 1
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Serves them right for voting out
09/12/2020 22:54:56 2 2
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That's covid not brexit. Your comments are those of a remainer.
With a bit of luck a plane crash on the way home and a new negotiating team next week that recognizes why the EU is holding firm and that the Tories are selling vulnerable Brits up the river Removed
09/12/2020 23:08:10 0 1
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Hopefully most as Polish, stops then texting on their phones and crashing into cars
09/12/2020 23:09:02 0 1
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Really...15000 of them probably voted for Brexit...
09/12/2020 23:18:31 0 1
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Slight bs
09/12/2020 23:50:56 1 1
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Check your facts. Nowt to do with Brexit.
09/12/2020 23:54:42 0 1
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They only had two votes. It took Millions (the majority of us) to choose Brexit. Including I suspect many of the truck drivers.
All will settle down, if we just stopped debating and moved on to implementing.
10/12/2020 00:01:52 0 1
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As we have not finished the transition period whatever is happening at Dover and Calais has nothing to do with Brexit.
10/12/2020 00:49:19 0 1
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Do the US and other worldwide ports suffering the same issues also blame NF and Brexit?
10/12/2020 01:14:21 0 2
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OSTEND WILL BE HAPPY TO GET THE BUSINESS FROM THE UK.they used to do that before we were dragged in to a corrupt dictatorship.
10/12/2020 01:17:12 0 0
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Quite a few as well as to why industry didn’t wake up to what was coming
10/12/2020 01:25:46 0 2
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That's to do with a shutdown of factories world wild for few months back in Feb , march April ....whole global logistics chain is broken out of step ...nothing to do with Farage or Johnston .....obviously remoaner too upset to understand world logistics chain of supply.
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09/12/2020 20:28:15 18 18
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If my geography serves me well..................Isn't there a South Of France? On the Med??......Go fish there!!
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09/12/2020 20:32:49 3 1
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The Med is dead. Stripped bare by years of over fishing.
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09/12/2020 20:28:54 630 130
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You would think that as the leader of our country he would at least take his hands out of his pockets... this is, after all, the world stage, not an Eton common room
But then, he has had an education, you on the other hand.........?? Removed
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09/12/2020 20:38:34 19 7
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But that does not make him fit for purpose as a PM
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09/12/2020 20:44:56 54 9
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He's not 'had an education', has he? He has simply been to Eton and then Oxford. He knows nothing of how the huge majority of us live and shows no willingness to learn.
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09/12/2020 20:47:43 22 2
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A bad one care of the elite's fave school for underachievers.
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09/12/2020 21:08:30 32 4
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A rich kid who had an education implanting the idea i that his is entitled to whatever he wants and who is better than the rest of us; you and me included.
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09/12/2020 20:30:08 32 11
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It may well end up as a No Deal Brexit. But "good" is certainly not a word I would associate with that outcome.
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09/12/2020 20:32:54 1 0
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It could go either way Bob
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09/12/2020 20:33:31 0 1
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Finally, we agree on something LOL.
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09/12/2020 20:32:56 16 13
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Is Farage looking for something more useful to do now his big mate just lost big time ?

I suggest he offers his services to clean the portable toilets for the lorry drivers stuck in the monstrous lorry parks in Kent soon. 10,000 lorry drivers should keep him busy. It would be the first real job he has had in his life. Am sure he would get a good reception from blokes stuck for days in Kent.
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09/12/2020 20:31:13 1177 367
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Boris is right, if what he is saying is true then the EU are asking for too much from UK.

... and I voted Remain.

The problem is Boris said himself that there was “a one in a million chance” of not getting a deal, along with many other lies on getting a good deal.

If the option was Remain Vs Hard Brexit then I’m sure remain would’ve been the outcome of the referendum.

We’ve been cheated.
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09/12/2020 20:33:01 815 208
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Cheated ?
Lied to !
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09/12/2020 22:29:33 3 13
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No lies. U voted for the wrong side. Bitter or what
09/12/2020 22:38:15 9 16
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I don’t feel cheated. We are in exactly the position I expected. Anybody who thought the EU would negotiate in good faith was paying no attention to history. It’s all about the “United States of Europe.
So good Brexit is for the UK that billionaire main Brexitear Jim Ratcliffe will be building his Bridgend "a vote of confidence in UK expertise" car factory in FRANCE! Of course he's also moved to Monaco to avoid paying tax. That just shows you how disgusting all this is and how they are laughing all the way to collect their billions while people in this country will lose jobs and livelihoods.
10/12/2020 00:52:48 0 1
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Absolutely lied to. During the Referendum Campaign the then Prime Minister published an official pamphlet explaining that it was a once in a lifetime vote and that a No Vote was irreversible and meant leaving the EU, the Single Market and its Institutions - was he lying to promote Brexit?
10/12/2020 06:41:06 0 1
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Stop saying it then.
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09/12/2020 20:33:10 21 18
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Look at the mess Johnson is.

The shyster is a national disaster and an international disgrace.
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09/12/2020 20:33:20 4 14
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Will Ursula’s new facelift be a waste of money?
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09/12/2020 20:30:56 7 3
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He isn't in France.
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09/12/2020 20:33:24 3 2
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I din't say he was??
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09/12/2020 20:32:54 1 0
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It could go either way Bob
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09/12/2020 20:33:31 0 1
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Finally, we agree on something LOL.
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09/12/2020 20:33:37 385 136
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Why do Brexiteers keep banging on about Sovereignty?

It's the same as being a club member with a dress code. I give up some of my "sovereignty", my personal preference to wear a sleeveless T-shirt and cutoff jeans, so that I can benefit from membership of the club and use its amenities.

The UK has not yet understood this. But they will have to irrespective of whether there is a deal or not
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09/12/2020 20:38:13 191 239
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So you would prefer devolution, where you get some power, but not much and still feed the behemoth that is the EU billions a year?
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09/12/2020 20:36:47 9 31
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you miss understand..... the deal the EU is suggesting means they own your home bathroom as a condition of being a club member.
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09/12/2020 20:50:39 6 11
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And when the EU wants to use the facilities of the UK, it needs to dress accordingly and give up some of its “single market sovereignty “ . Correct?
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09/12/2020 21:19:01 2 17
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I doubt if Japan would ever allow the Chinese to take 80% of their fish without agreement, or you might find threat of war on the table. Pretty similar scenario to the UK and EU other than we have a spineless clown in charge of the UK.
09/12/2020 22:51:44 3 1
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Sovereignty - same as post-Suez, 1956, you mean?
09/12/2020 22:55:23 8 6
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WRONG! To use your analogy, the UK is no longer a member of the club, but they still insist we should follow their dress code at all times, even if they change in the future
09/12/2020 23:08:12 8 9
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When are remainers going to understand it's a choice between UK sovereignty, and EU sovereignty? I'll take the one I can vote on, not the one I must obey.
09/12/2020 23:53:13 3 1
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Most of globalisation is about everyone wearing the same casual clothes. And much of it was heading towards ripped jeans.

Nation states create diversity and more expressions of choice.
10/12/2020 00:08:39 4 3
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sorry, if I leave a club no one can oblige me to continue to wear the club colours or represent their rules. Other situation in gang memberships, there they kill you if you leave.
And if the club needs me or has an interest in continuing the relationship, we can agree in rules, which are acceptable for both sides.
That's how things are working normally.
10/12/2020 02:10:34 2 7
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You lost the argument accept democracy or go live in Argentina or the EU you adore.We are all sick of your whingeing.
10/12/2020 06:35:57 0 3
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... and if you wanted to leave and they said you couldn't unless you carried on with their dress code ?
jad
10/12/2020 09:12:56 0 1
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If you joined a club and they then start making rules perhaps you wouldn't join that club. Now in the EU case we didn't actually join the EU, The EU basically took over the ECC ( expanded version ) and started slipping rules in place that you wouldn't agree to if joining as a new member!
Sovereignty in this case is actually democracy, where you can vote for who's rules you want to follow!
10/12/2020 09:17:10 0 0
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It must be wonderful to have so much more understanding than the entire population of the UK.
10/12/2020 09:53:46 0 0
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Absolute tosh!
10/12/2020 12:59:45 0 0
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We gave up our club membership because we didn't want to be forced to wear T-Shirt and cut off jeans - far too scruffy ;-)
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09/12/2020 20:33:49 22 8
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Let's hope there is a deal to be done, for everybody's sake. We need to move on.
VBR
09/12/2020 21:41:06 4 2
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Frankly speaking, I am for moving on for any price, this farce has been long enough. (V.Braun, Czechia)
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09/12/2020 20:31:45 24 23
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I’m a remained, but the way the EU - and Macron in particular - have held the UK to ransom is a disgrace.

No deal. Damn the consequences. At least we can hold our heads high.
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09/12/2020 20:33:52 11 5
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Yeah course you voted remain.......
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09/12/2020 21:08:57 1 0
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Yeah, actually I did pal, thanks.

What’s your problem? Are you too stupid to comprehend the possibility that whilst someone might think Brexit is a bad idea, the way the EU has subsequently been seen to treat its so-called “friends with the same values” is itself an eye-opener?

Get back in your box.
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09/12/2020 20:28:15 18 18
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If my geography serves me well..................Isn't there a South Of France? On the Med??......Go fish there!!
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09/12/2020 20:33:52 4 3
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The UK takes 350m tonnes of fish per annum from EU waters, but only 300m tonnes are fished from UK waters.

Added to the fact we consume 410m tonnes of fish a year and its quick to see that we need access to EU waters as much as the EU needs access to ours.

We also only eat a few species of fish/crustaceans caught in UK waters.
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09/12/2020 20:29:11 20 31
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No deal is a disaster for the UK but although I am a remainer I would actually not mind a no-deal: it will teach the Brexiteers a lesson.
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09/12/2020 20:33:53 6 2
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Sadly everyone is going to suffer because of it
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09/12/2020 20:26:34 1852 517
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They said it was about free trade,taking back control and global Britain...

We ended up with a border around Kent, blocked ports, a customs border in the Irish Sea between two parts of the UK and the Union in doubt.
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09/12/2020 20:33:55 89 293
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No, that's temporary until trade shifts to CANZUK and Asia markets.
Look at the deals the UK did today with Iceland, Norway and Kenya.
We get you're a Europhile and a neoliberalist. But we're pro democracy and anti neoliberalism.
Sorry. :)
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09/12/2020 20:45:33 257 41
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Trade deal with Iceland and Norway. Wow. That should a huge effect on our GDP...

Oh wait Iceland has about 350,00 people and Norway 5m

Where is the EU trade deal ( worlds largest economy) China trade deal, where is the US trade deal

I’ll tell you where. No where
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09/12/2020 20:56:21 49 3
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Don't do details do you. Compare the trade deals and see if they are any better than under eu terms. I would go further and suggest they are being made so that Japan, Norway can get better leverage on the eu.
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09/12/2020 21:01:32 75 4
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Iceland, Norway and Kenya...they have massive economy's. If the deal is anything like the Japan deal, where Japan gets 80% of the benefits...doh
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09/12/2020 21:25:11 61 2
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CANZUK does not exist. It is as real as Narnia.
09/12/2020 22:13:21 9 0
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Iceland, Norway and Kenya. ! Are you an educated man or not.
09/12/2020 22:26:23 7 0
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Got a timescale on your 'trade shift'? How do you get around the trivialities of shipping goods to these wonderful 'new markets'?
09/12/2020 22:27:26 1 0
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Who or what is we"re ?
09/12/2020 22:38:39 2 2
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Is that all you’ve got ?
09/12/2020 22:42:39 6 0
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Iceland, Norway and Kenya - really!!
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09/12/2020 20:32:06 18 2
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Isn’t that called cutting off your nose to spite your face?
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09/12/2020 20:33:55 5 1
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Depends if you are short £.
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09/12/2020 20:38:55 3 1
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Exactly, I you understand where I am come from: I can afford my cynical view because I am financially well off (although definitely not as rich as Rees-Mogg and all these rich people who backed Brexit). If I were short of pounds I would be very worried.
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09/12/2020 20:31:45 24 23
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I’m a remained, but the way the EU - and Macron in particular - have held the UK to ransom is a disgrace.

No deal. Damn the consequences. At least we can hold our heads high.
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09/12/2020 20:34:20 4 1
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The UK left before negotiations started. That created the ransom. Stupidity
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09/12/2020 20:34:45 1040 147
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The article says: "Mr Johnson has said the EU has made demands no prime minister could accept."

Yes, and the previous PM, Theresa May, said "No UK PM would ever agree to a border in the Irish Sea".

And guess what? Bojo did just that.
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09/12/2020 21:12:45 383 91
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There had to be a border in the Irish Sea. Or we had to break the GFA. Hobson's choice.
09/12/2020 22:09:51 44 3
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He keeps on using inflammatory language, such as "punish" and "retaliate" by the EU if we do not want to track the EU's standards.

What it is in reality, is that if we don't meet the EU rules, then tariffs will apply. Or should the UK decide to break laws as stated the UK would break International law, then there will be consequences.

This is being inflamed by the media too. Sad.
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09/12/2020 22:30:09 12 45
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It’s called negotiation. May was too weak hence Johnson
09/12/2020 22:48:36 3 7
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What was the alternative?
09/12/2020 23:10:59 0 1
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The border Theresa Mae negotiated ?
10/12/2020 00:02:06 2 8
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There is no border in the Irish Sea
TDA
10/12/2020 02:31:21 0 7
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Northern Ireland was sold down the river with Boris being hoodwinked by Varadkar ... the GFA is dead anyway to the point of farce.
10/12/2020 06:41:59 1 8
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Lets wait and see what the fine detail is then before pushing out the remainer agenda.
10/12/2020 08:22:13 0 2
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True bad choice of words by BJ as Teresa May used them and she was a bloody useless Article if ever there was one.
10/12/2020 08:57:03 1 0
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Not only that. But at the time Johnson completely agreed with Theresa May!

The withdrawal agreement he signed last year had already been offered to May a year or two before, and she rejected it. For the same reasons Johnson has been trying to renege on it.
10/12/2020 09:00:05 0 1
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So do you think we should just concede all the other EU demands?
10/12/2020 09:07:59 0 0
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Produce actual proof of the statement you’ve made above
10/12/2020 10:35:17 1 0
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Why do we actually need borders?

Nature doesn’t & if we all don’t get a grip soon & put away squabbles, it all won’t matter!

Time to start working together-globally. Stabilise countries which have been destabilised by our & other greed led ideals!!

Focus on what matters! Learn to share & be kind! It is what we all really want & need!
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Soo
09/12/2020 20:34:47 6 5
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Boris on his last visa free visit to the continent? I hear there is cherry cake for desert...
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09/12/2020 20:48:26 0 0
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He probably wants Ursula’s cherry as well.
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09/12/2020 20:27:21 23 12
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totally deranged
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09/12/2020 20:34:52 4 5
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Europhiles are, deranged, bitter and sell outs. Lol
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09/12/2020 20:34:53 8 8
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Boris is representing the country so he really does need a proper hair cut - and he clearly has dandruff issues - I was watching Boris in the House of Commons a few weeks since and his suit collar was covered in white stuff.
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09/12/2020 20:48:31 0 0
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Boris’s hair is just a law unto itself. It’s mental. It grows in ways hair shouldn’t t grow.
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09/12/2020 20:34:55 14 13
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We are watching a man having to live his lies.... if only it didn't affect the lives of millions of people
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09/12/2020 20:34:59 19 19
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Let's walk. Enough is enough. Bugger the consequences, we'll be fine; nobody likes us anymore anyway.
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09/12/2020 20:31:45 24 23
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I’m a remained, but the way the EU - and Macron in particular - have held the UK to ransom is a disgrace.

No deal. Damn the consequences. At least we can hold our heads high.
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09/12/2020 20:35:10 3 2
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Your not even British judging by your post.
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09/12/2020 20:56:31 1 0
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And article 50 should never have been invoked until an agreement was signed.
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09/12/2020 21:09:42 0 0
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It’s “you’re”.
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09/12/2020 20:31:37 13 16
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Pointless HYS again, BBC creating division once more.
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09/12/2020 20:35:15 14 10
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If anyone has created division in our U.K. it’s the man in the picture. Johnson should be jailed.
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09/12/2020 20:29:07 32 9
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cost of everything, value of nothing
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09/12/2020 20:35:20 1 5
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Really not sure what value we get from the EU ??.
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09/12/2020 20:35:30 10 11
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Brexiteer1066
20:30

"The EU project is a failure, look at what's going on in the EU today, Brexit is the least of the EUs problems... Bon voyage"

Uneconomic areas of the UK funded by EU money calling the EU a failure.

Doesn't really work does it.
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09/12/2020 20:41:16 5 2
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There is no eu money. It's your tax they squander.
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09/12/2020 20:47:09 0 0
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Remind us all where the EU got all that funding money from again.
Is anyone else having fantasies about Ursula von der Leyen ?

She can trade my deal anytime....
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Nice MILF / GILF ? :) Removed
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09/12/2020 20:35:46 13 7
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I wonder how many rich, Tory Chum Brexiters are shorting the pound tonight.
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09/12/2020 20:47:18 4 0
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Yes one made £200 M in 2016 ....friend of Johnson and Farage
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09/12/2020 20:43:26 0 0
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Not me. Just getting on with business to pay wages etc.
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09/12/2020 20:53:34 0 0
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No need to made enough on shares thanks
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09/12/2020 20:57:38 0 0
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Why don't you then?
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09/12/2020 20:35:46 1 7
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If it wernt for us Brits she wood be speeking german anyway
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Soo
09/12/2020 20:45:15 4 0
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As a German citizen, of course she speaks German and it "wernt" for us Brits!
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09/12/2020 20:42:54 1 0
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I don’t like her and the position she holds, but I should point out that she’s German, and speaks German already.
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09/12/2020 20:26:34 1852 517
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They said it was about free trade,taking back control and global Britain...

We ended up with a border around Kent, blocked ports, a customs border in the Irish Sea between two parts of the UK and the Union in doubt.
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09/12/2020 20:35:46 251 93
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And globally everyone either hates us, sees us as insignificant, or at the very least a joke.

Sovereign Empire?

Dream on!
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09/12/2020 21:35:00 7 28
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yes so much so people are risking their lives to by-pass the safe haven the eu has become. we are so hated! what drivwl.
09/12/2020 22:37:31 6 8
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Where do people like you get this idea that 'everyone hates us'?? Or we are 'insignificant'?? It's all in your head and nobody talks about an Empire anymore we just don't wish to be ruled by EU,that's it,get over it!!
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09/12/2020 20:31:13 636 1064
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The Union was in doubt before 2016....the SNP had 57/59 seats in Scotland. A customsborder on a handful of agricultural goods as a compromise to the Good Friday agreement., and there has always been a border in Kent.
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09/12/2020 20:35:48 252 41
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No there hasn't. For the last 40 years there was no border between the UK & France. For the last 1000 years there was no border between Kent and the rest of England. In both cases there are now.
We get it, you're a Europhile sell out, 8 bet you hate democracy and still can't get your head round that you losers... Keep losing. Lol

Sorry I shouldn't mock. Being a beta isn't really your fault.
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09/12/2020 20:35:52 2 5
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Ones a bumbling idiot and the other hasn't had a single European citizen vote for them....

Democracy 2020
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09/12/2020 20:26:19 18 25
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I see new agreement with Iceland, Norway and Kenya has been reached.... Over fishing lol.
Bon voyage EU.
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09/12/2020 20:36:13 4 2
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Are you on meds? If not you should be saddo!
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09/12/2020 20:36:23 1 5
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Both Boris and Von Leyen have got their negotiators with them at this meeting. Both to witness a signing of a deal
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09/12/2020 20:45:48 0 0
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Do we have to sign a No Deal?
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09/12/2020 20:36:33 16 15
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relax guys trade will carry on whatever

Companies and people do business not trade deals
If we get one nothing will change

ANyone who already imports exports knows how it works
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09/12/2020 20:31:13 1177 367
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Boris is right, if what he is saying is true then the EU are asking for too much from UK.

... and I voted Remain.

The problem is Boris said himself that there was “a one in a million chance” of not getting a deal, along with many other lies on getting a good deal.

If the option was Remain Vs Hard Brexit then I’m sure remain would’ve been the outcome of the referendum.

We’ve been cheated.
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09/12/2020 20:36:35 22 7
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You have to read between the lines, i think.

Boris Johnson will always play the "UK is being victimised" card.

I agree with the fishing - we should have 100% control.

For other areas - if we passed a law, such as a change in a standard for the UK, won't we then expect exporters to the UK to adhere to it ?

If we change our system which undercuts others, then tariff's should be expected.
09/12/2020 23:19:39 2 0
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Nobody really knows whats with fishing but when the talk will be over and fail and they all blame each other I think people will struggle to believe downing street.
That's what happens when you constantly lie, nobody believes you
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09/12/2020 20:36:37 11 10
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I’ve no doubt there are some clever Brexiteers who genuinely believe separation offers a better future, however there will be consequences and I feel for the misguided less informed who provided the votes to win the ref who will now spend the next years of their lives bemoaning the cost of everything and wondered why their disillusioned grandchildren won’t speak to them anymore!
Watch your blood pressure, Tom Stockton! It comes with spending too much time on here!! Lighten up!!!

In a couple of weeks it'll all be over and done with!!!
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09/12/2020 20:43:08 1 2
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Thanks for your concern.
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He’s just found out he’s only got one inset day.
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09/12/2020 20:31:13 1177 367
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Boris is right, if what he is saying is true then the EU are asking for too much from UK.

... and I voted Remain.

The problem is Boris said himself that there was “a one in a million chance” of not getting a deal, along with many other lies on getting a good deal.

If the option was Remain Vs Hard Brexit then I’m sure remain would’ve been the outcome of the referendum.

We’ve been cheated.
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09/12/2020 20:36:45 15 27
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Yeah, and of course: you “voted remain” too. Lol - is that the Tory party memo today? Lie that you “voted remain but....”
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09/12/2020 20:45:09 40 3
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Erm no .. I did vote remain .. and believe for many reasons we would be better staying in the EU.

However (IF Boris can be believed) we cannot agree to rules that we will have zero say/influence over in future, that would be madness.

And was one of the main reasons for staying in the EU (to maintain a voice at the table)
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09/12/2020 20:36:52 522 169
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Steam_Simon
20:33

"Why do Brexiteers keep banging on about Sovereignty?"

.. because it took them 4 years to work out that there were No Economic benefits to Brexit, and by the time they realized, UK was out of the EU.

So now it's all a face saving exercise to avoid red faces and empty bellies.
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09/12/2020 20:56:26 274 444
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Absolute rubbish! It took 4 years to make the referendum result final due to all the lilly livered stalling from the people who lost while facing a weak and ineffective government. You need to re read recent history as your version is pants.
09/12/2020 22:51:55 12 26
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Brexit is beautiful and getting better by the day.
10/12/2020 05:45:41 3 0
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A bit like the Falklands which none of the general population had a clue of which hemisphere they were in
10/12/2020 06:24:17 1 4
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Scaremongering again
10/12/2020 07:02:11 2 1
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Correct and I...no I'm not, I'm better than that, no...oh sod it: "WE TOLD YOU SO"!!!!
10/12/2020 08:15:10 6 1
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I wonder how much those ex-Nissan engineers in the line to collect their dole cheques will value their newfound "sovrinnty".
10/12/2020 08:47:15 0 2
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Can you please state your qualification to announce that giving away some £200 billion over 40 years for nothing in return - is going to harm us and our economy?. If you are unsettled - please feel free to depart - all travel is still allowed.
10/12/2020 09:15:21 0 4
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Why do Remainers keep banging on about the economy? Because it has failed to collapse like they hoped it would.
10/12/2020 09:26:19 0 3
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Er, no. It's about soverignty and EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH IT
10/12/2020 09:49:58 0 2
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You are deeply deluded about Brexit.Wake up to not being an EU slave.
10/12/2020 12:34:47 0 0
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Total rubbish. The Eu have proven over the years that they are corrupt and out for themselves. They are frightened of losing our money. We have a vaccine they are arguing about one. We need to be in the EU to destroy it not out of it
10/12/2020 12:43:22 0 0
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Empty bellies? Maybe you should tell french farmers that, they seem to fear cheaper UK food post Brexit.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/agribusiness-and-food/french-farm-leader-ups-brexit-ante-with-hard-irish-border-call-1.3085229
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09/12/2020 20:36:55 24 10
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Shambles to the left of him, shambles to the right, and shambles in his mirror.
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09/12/2020 20:37:04 24 26
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It appears the EU still want to be able dictate to the UK even after the UK is no longer a member of the EU
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09/12/2020 20:52:36 11 3
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According to the biggest bunch of liars in the history of politics in this country. If you believe Johnson in particular, a man sacked from his first ever journalism job for making up quotes, then you're the kind of customer that used car salesmen dream of.
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09/12/2020 20:54:14 2 0
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it's their club if you want to be a part of it you have to play by the rules if not then just leave
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09/12/2020 20:55:00 1 0
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It appears you dont understand the nature of any trade deal
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09/12/2020 21:01:43 1 0
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yes if you want to trade with eu tariff free ..
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09/12/2020 20:37:18 8 4
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He needs to get a deal or not come back.... it's like Cameron all over again.
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09/12/2020 20:40:27 6 2
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Do you mean there's a chance he won't come back?
Here's hoping...
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09/12/2020 20:37:19 18 18
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So, judging by the comments so far.

Boris should just give in to the EU demands, as the EU is correct.

We should still follow their rules and are not allowed to do our own thing.

We should just give them our fishing grounds with out complaint.

Macron is OK to veto any deal.

Lets accept all of this without a fight.

Right?...well no thanks, I want a fight!
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09/12/2020 20:44:18 10 6
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A fight just for the sake of it?
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09/12/2020 20:45:49 0 2
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Top comment.
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09/12/2020 20:41:51 1 1
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“Not allowed to do our own thing”

Boo hoo!
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09/12/2020 20:53:43 1 3
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Me too! I cannot believe the spineless snivelling of the losing remainers. Daily sailings to the land of EU milk and honey from Dover. Other ports of EXIT are also available.
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09/12/2020 21:21:41 1 0
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We had over 70 seats at the European Parliament, we should have done our fighting there!
LEO
10/12/2020 00:33:23 0 0
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Well said. It seems that many remoaners have no faith in Britain. Where is their pride and resolve to stand on their own two feet and fight for our place in the world? Being a "glass is half "full sort of chap, we will surely prosper and not be dictated to by the EU. Britain is a brilliant place to live.
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09/12/2020 20:28:56 11 75
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Look at the state your in lol remoaner
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09/12/2020 20:37:29 1 25
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We're all in this together.
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09/12/2020 20:37:41 9 9
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Johnson is about to play a medley of his best worst meaningless soundbites.
He got his foot in the door by hook and crook and one year back smeared his opponent who was anti-war as antisemitic.
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09/12/2020 20:40:55 3 1
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The fact that his opponent was an out of touch, out of date excuse for a Politician, played no part in his rather embarrassing downfall I take it then....the worst Labour leader of all time ????
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09/12/2020 20:41:00 0 0
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.....except that his opponent was PROVEN to be anti-semitic by the enquiry afterwards.
whats your point? 80 seat majority wasnt due to Corbyns anti-semitism, but Labours lack of a Brexit sgtrategy.
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09/12/2020 20:51:35 0 0
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Mr Brown your comment is Twaddle of the highest order! Boris won an 80 seat majority in a free election and Corbyn IS antisemitic as proven recently. You might not like it but those are the facts.
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09/12/2020 20:33:37 385 136
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Why do Brexiteers keep banging on about Sovereignty?

It's the same as being a club member with a dress code. I give up some of my "sovereignty", my personal preference to wear a sleeveless T-shirt and cutoff jeans, so that I can benefit from membership of the club and use its amenities.

The UK has not yet understood this. But they will have to irrespective of whether there is a deal or not
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09/12/2020 20:38:13 191 239
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So you would prefer devolution, where you get some power, but not much and still feed the behemoth that is the EU billions a year?
09/12/2020 22:41:54 3 1
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Of course
09/12/2020 22:55:39 11 6
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I would like the sovereignty that we never lost AND to have a place at the biggest trading bloc in the world - the cost of which is cheaper than the cost of Brexit in jobs, tariffs and mutual support.
09/12/2020 23:03:14 1 0
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Yes
10/12/2020 02:11:40 0 2
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TWO BILLION has been stolen from the
10/12/2020 03:04:08 3 0
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Much prefer the EU.
10/12/2020 07:40:58 4 0
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If the pound has gone down 5% from Brexit (and it’s more) then this is costing us £43bn /yr in import costs alone (OEC imports are £862bn). GDP growth 2008-2018 was -2.3% which is 171st in the world. That context (particularly the first) tells us what we were paying the EU is not a cost but an investment. So yes, without a shadow of a doubt I’d be paying them a few £Bn a year for membership.
10/12/2020 08:49:40 3 0
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Better than de pfeffels mob - far better value.
10/12/2020 09:43:07 2 0
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If I join a club that costs say £10bn a year, but in return I receive extra trade and other benefits that are worth say £100bn+ a year to my economy, plus I get a lot of influence over how the club is run, and my people get a lot of extra freedom, then yes. I'd still feed the behemoth! I'd continue to pay my club fees of £10bn p/a.
10/12/2020 09:45:36 0 0
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oh, how you lack understanding of the EU and its workings.
10/12/2020 10:24:15 2 0
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Brexit has already cost more than the entire amount we paid into the EU over 40 years.
10/12/2020 11:02:39 0 0
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A non-member of a club loses rights and privileges. So its will be with Brexit. To expect the same rights and privileges outside is unrealistic. Brexiters are unrealistic. They want everything as before without cost and penalty.
10/12/2020 11:16:29 0 0
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Like every single state in the USA you mean?
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09/12/2020 20:31:13 1177 367
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Boris is right, if what he is saying is true then the EU are asking for too much from UK.

... and I voted Remain.

The problem is Boris said himself that there was “a one in a million chance” of not getting a deal, along with many other lies on getting a good deal.

If the option was Remain Vs Hard Brexit then I’m sure remain would’ve been the outcome of the referendum.

We’ve been cheated.
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BFG
09/12/2020 20:38:16 48 5
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"if what Boris is saying is true..."
Haha. Unlikely at best.
09/12/2020 23:10:39 1 0
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Like ," it will be decided by Sunday"!Probably Easter Sunday ,the way jackanory Johnson performs.
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09/12/2020 20:30:58 724 130
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A good time to get that 'fantastic oven-ready deal' out of the fridge Boris?
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09/12/2020 20:38:20 500 584
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There was an oven ready deal available based on what Canada has. The problem was the eu didn’t want to offer that to an ex member who had paid up its subs for the last 40+ years.
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09/12/2020 20:44:15 75 25
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It's so dispiriting to see the lack of understanding when people say this. Show me the land border between the EU and Canada. There isn't one. That is why a deal between the UK and the EU will ALWAYS be different than one between Canada and the EU.
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09/12/2020 20:48:36 63 22
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You obviously voted dfor this obvious clusterf@ck now live with it like the 48% us who didnt vote for it have to and remember you own it.
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09/12/2020 20:49:50 48 9
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Also Canada is 4,000 miles away so no chance of it being a back door. We are never going to get the same deal

It was a Canada plus or Canada style deal
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09/12/2020 20:50:12 55 13
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A Canada deal would be disaster for UK. No coverage of services - 50% of our EU exports. Masses of res tape and delays for manufacturing.

Yet this damage is what our incompetent government is aiming for.
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09/12/2020 21:16:33 26 21
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The Canada deal was never going to be on the table. Canada 3000 miles away. Little England 20 miles away.
09/12/2020 21:52:10 17 10
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Probably something to do with us being geographically far closer and having a completely unfair advantage of we were offered the same deal as Canada
09/12/2020 22:07:16 23 10
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If the EU didn't want to offer a similar deal then "that" oven ready deal was never available - just another 'EU bullying' scam for the gullible to swallow.
09/12/2020 22:07:45 12 5
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The problem was the eu didn’t want to offer that to an ex member who had paid up its subs for the last 40+ years.
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Stop whining. The 27 sovereign countries who collaborate as EU have the right to offer the trade deals THEY want to offer. They don't owe us anything. We can take it or leave it, but Boris will take it. If you don't like it, you can de-elect Boris. Taking back control?
09/12/2020 22:24:28 5 4
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Dont you understand the difference between a marginal partner, one ocean away, and a chanel/tunel partner from where uk gets most of its imports?
PS
09/12/2020 22:33:22 7 4
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Yep and we paid an awful lot with little return. Good luck France and Germany cos you’ll be funding the rest of the bankrupt members. Thank god we didn’t join the €. I’ll give credit to Gordon Brown for that decision.
09/12/2020 22:48:50 3 2
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The deal the transition deal PM agreed with the EU expressly said there would be a lpf due to close proximity of UK to EU. UK AGREED those terms and now wants something different.
You don’t need to believe me just read the WA.
09/12/2020 22:49:43 1 1
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You do know that the “Canada deal” everyone talks about excludes services, our biggest export earner, includes tariffs and quotas on a lot of goods, especially agricultural, and includes agreement on common standards and convergence, the so-called level playing field which UK refuses to sign up to. Talk of the EU refusing us a Canada style deal is a Red Herring. It was never that simple.
09/12/2020 23:15:28 4 1
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If you resign from the golf club, you don't get to play again unless you pay the green fees. Britain left the EU - it's not up to the EU to sugar-coat it.
KOB
09/12/2020 23:24:48 1 0
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Have you ever noticed that the UK is not Canada? Look at rhe world map, if in any doubt.
09/12/2020 23:56:17 0 0
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I'll remind you Larkspur that Uk wants a Canada++ deal. I think you'll find it's the ++ that's the biggest problem.
10/12/2020 00:02:37 3 0
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You wanted to leave....leave...it's a bit stupid to think that when you cancel your gym membership they'll continue to let you use the steam room whenever you want...the Europeans are not as stupid as those who voted for an oven ready deal
10/12/2020 00:16:45 0 0
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"There was an oven ready deal available based on what Canada has."

There were many oven-readies available, over 100.
For some reason, UK didn't want Bolivia one, or Mongolia one, or Namibia one.

Problem was UK expected pampering of last 40 years to continue even after needlessly walking out of Union—look at UK sulking because it doesn't like the 100+ oven-readies on offer, wants to cherry pick.
10/12/2020 00:20:31 0 0
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Oh Larkie please read some facts and truth. Neither the UK nor the EU have offered or raised a Canadian style deal. Now let the adults have their say, there's a good boy.
10/12/2020 00:33:30 3 0
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Canada accepted non-regression clauses and is not planning on dumping standards to gain an unfair competitive advantage.
10/12/2020 01:14:06 0 0
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with agricultural quotas and no deal for services. Canada makes little that clashes with the 27. You do know that?
10/12/2020 02:58:58 1 0
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What nonsense.
Canada exports about a tenth as much to the EU as UK and its exports are largely commodities the EU doesn't produce - metals and ores, timber, gem stones and some grains.
Canada was never likely to undercut EU producers.
A Canada deal was never 'oven ready' except in fantasy realms of Brexit delusion.
10/12/2020 06:18:30 0 0
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Please, enough lies! Learn to accept the truth. Had people been able to do it, we would be in our current position now.
10/12/2020 06:43:53 0 0
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Typical. You give a true statement and the remainers disagree anyway.
But then, he has had an education, you on the other hand.........?? Removed
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09/12/2020 20:38:34 19 7
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But that does not make him fit for purpose as a PM
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09/12/2020 20:38:35 1 6
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Are there gammon and fish for Johnson served.
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09/12/2020 20:38:47 8 3
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I'm certain lots on here would prefer it be Jeremy Corbyn holding last ditch talks?? .