Brexit: Boris Johnson to meet Ursula von der Leyen for trade deal talks
09/12/2020 | news | politics | 1,555
Boris Johnson will meet Ursula von der Leyen for talks over dinner, as time runs out to reach a trade deal.
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09/12/2020 12:46:15 14 24
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Cue the Boris bashing….
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09/12/2020 12:48:28 17 8
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Absolutely. One international embarrassment that fella. Second only to Trump
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09/12/2020 12:52:20 6 2
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ye he is totally useless, the worse PM ever even May better
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09/12/2020 13:10:24 4 1
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and rightly so! The English First Minister is a bit of a walloper to be fair mate!
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09/12/2020 12:46:46 18 31
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Why bother the EU isn’t interested in a deal only subservience
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09/12/2020 12:51:32 12 7
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Simply stupid!
Precisely the kind of ludicrous, tabloidesqe distortion that led to lemmings voting to head for a cliff.
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09/12/2020 12:47:25 181 67
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I pity her with that useless fool.
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09/12/2020 12:57:47 94 150
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Remember Von Der Leyen, Juncker, Verhofstadt and Barnier were all failed domestic politicians !! They now seem to seek a way to exercise as much power as possible via the EU to compensate for their past failures....whatever the "little man syndrome" is in the world of politicans....
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09/12/2020 13:02:28 21 2
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Let's just hope he doesn't make a pass at her...
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09/12/2020 13:04:33 20 3
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Dread to think what this particular Johnson encounter is going to give birth to!
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09/12/2020 13:12:51 4 29
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Why is that?, What do you have to offer and what gives you the right to comment on the PM ?
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09/12/2020 13:22:17 1 1
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Into the Leyens mouth.

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09/12/2020 13:37:49 0 6
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With a name like yours!!!, who's the useless fool?
09/12/2020 14:06:12 0 0
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09/12/2020 12:47:27 15 24
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Go on Boris, the country is behind you!

All this needs is a little warmth, amicable and gentle humour, all the while maintaining a steely resolve.

Even some polite flattery will not do any harm.

Think Thatcher not May!
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09/12/2020 12:52:39 4 4
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Do you really think Boris makes any decisions for the benefit of the "country?" What can he and his mates get out of this will be uppermost in his mind. At best it is a desperate attempt to save face. No gains for us insignificant little people.
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09/12/2020 12:52:52 1 0
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Even Thatcher was in favour of the EU in general
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09/12/2020 13:04:57 0 0
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haw haw haw - surely your being sarcastic?!
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09/12/2020 12:47:50 83 27
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If you're having a bad day, just remember you don't have to have conversation with the bumbling fool Boris Johnson, that should cheer you up.
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09/12/2020 13:27:49 7 20
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he`s the pm ,something labour does not know
09/12/2020 14:13:53 1 0
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And having dinner with him would be worse. Definitely a recipe for indigestion.
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09/12/2020 12:47:57 51 8
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I assume this must be good news otherwise Johnson would have sent Gove.
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09/12/2020 13:03:19 38 5
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Johnson says he can't accept all the terms he already accepted when he signed the withdrawal agreement.
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09/12/2020 13:08:29 10 2
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He's already positioning it to say what a momentous deal he's done.

He's just going to sign whatever. He knows his game's up

That's why he's proclaiming how difficult it is, how the odds aren't good, etc, all so that he can play the hero when he just signs up to whatever is on offer.

Stupid as he is, he isn't stupid enough to actually go through with no deal. It's all an act to appease the ERG
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09/12/2020 12:46:15 14 24
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Cue the Boris bashing….
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09/12/2020 12:48:28 17 8
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Absolutely. One international embarrassment that fella. Second only to Trump
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09/12/2020 12:48:38 7 8
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Don't sell us down the river Boris!
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09/12/2020 12:50:58 9 6
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never a user name more misused No deal a disaster for the UK
John the (not so) wise one

Surely you understand by now that Brexit (as you think you know it) is a lie

The UK is simply unable to go it alone and make a success of it

We need the EU and the USA

Leave with no deal and we trade freely with neither

Hmmmm, but maybe we can sell our cheeses to Chad or somewhere eh?
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09/12/2020 12:51:25 1 4
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Absolutely correct. Boris tell Ursula we have changed our minds and will stay and we'll send the jingo's to Unicornland
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09/12/2020 12:48:39 278 97
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"You can be sure there will be a deal" David Davis

"The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history" Liam Fox

"There is no plan for no deal because we are going to get a great deal" Boris Johnson

"I never promised it would be a huge success" Nigel farage

Is it any wonder that the turkeys voted for Christmas?
"The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history.
We are already beginning with zero tariffs, and we are already beginning at the point of maximal regulatory equivalence, as it is called.
In other words, our rules and our laws are exactly the same" Liam Fox.
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09/12/2020 12:55:10 16 44
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Is there a name for people who post the same thing over and over again, day in day out?
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09/12/2020 12:57:22 46 5
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Don't forget Boris stating that if we don't get a deal that it would be a complete failure of statecraft and this big one:

"We hold all the cards"....
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09/12/2020 13:11:29 8 32
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I’m guessing that you fall into the ‘simple’ category. Just about able to know how to use copy and paste on HYS. Repeatedly. Endlessly.

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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09/12/2020 13:16:02 0 16
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There has always been a deal since the EU Withdrawal Agreement was signed in January.

No Deal Brexit.
Prepared and oven ready for 31/12/20.

Brexit done as promised!
??????
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09/12/2020 13:33:36 0 4
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Have you ever thought about thinking for yourself!!!
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09/12/2020 13:38:51 0 0
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I wonder when they will get a vaccine for stupid?
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09/12/2020 13:36:01 1 2
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Cry more....
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09/12/2020 13:45:04 3 3
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What is this obsession that Remainers, Guardianistas, rump Labourites and bitter marginalised Socialists have with 'the Tories'? They seem to care about these Conservative names more than actual real-life Tories do. Far more so than Brexiteers ever have that is for sure. Go, get a room if you are so into them..
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09/12/2020 13:46:51 0 0
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At least Johnson has had a haircut suitable for the occasion. Give him some credit.
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09/12/2020 13:52:02 3 2
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Love reading the daily weeping posts. All in it together.
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09/12/2020 13:54:42 1 0
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It's funny how the winging repetitive comments find their way to the top, being voted for by the unimaginative, out of touch few.

How about some constructive talk, such as what should be negotiated or if you even want a deal (although like most leave voters, I hope you want a deal even if it means no 'we told you so')?

These things shouldn't go to the wire but there's stubbornness on both sides.
Pat
09/12/2020 14:03:35 0 0
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And ?
09/12/2020 14:04:52 0 0
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09/12/2020 14:07:42 0 1
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All to appease the remainers!!! Should have went for the juggler straight away and not listen to the likes of Tony Blair trying to go against the will of the people in order to feather his own nest!!
09/12/2020 14:09:00 0 0
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No, unlike the humans the turkeys saw it all coming, and opted for bird flu instead, as the better choice.
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09/12/2020 12:48:44 164 61
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Why do the EU bother with Boris?

Yes, it’s in the interests of the EU & the UK to reach an amicable deal, but Boris is a proven liar (sacked from positions several times as a result), a man who cheated on his wife during her cancer treatment, a sensationalist journalist who now criticises the media for sensationalist journalism...

How can they be expected to take him seriously and/or trust him?
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09/12/2020 12:51:01 70 29
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I think it's because he's the PM.
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09/12/2020 12:52:44 11 26
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Holier than thou comments about the level I suppose. His personal life is his own.
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09/12/2020 12:53:27 12 21
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Because he is the UK Prime Minister and for all your pontificating... Your not
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09/12/2020 13:15:32 10 3
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I suppose they are doing it as they are statesmen and care about the people of the UK who the Tory government of the UK has f*d
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09/12/2020 13:17:15 5 2
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How can he expect to take himself seriously.
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09/12/2020 13:40:43 0 2
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Are you REALLY that gullible?
09/12/2020 14:06:34 0 0
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LOL ROFl LOL
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09/12/2020 12:48:54 203 55
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Surely all the years at Eton, the Bullingdon Club, being sacked for dishonesty by the Times, making up blatant lies as the Telegraph's Brussels correspondent, writing self-aggrandizing columns for the Spectator and spending money on vanity projects as London Mayor have prepared Johnson to earnestly engage in the most crucial negotiation for this country in 75 years. Either that, or we're screwed.
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09/12/2020 13:12:48 105 9
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"...admirers assert that, in office, Johnson will reveal an accession of wisdom and responsibility that have hitherto eluded him, not least as foreign secretary... his graver vice is cowardice, reflected in a willingness to tell any audience, whatever he thinks most likely to please, heedless of the inevitability of its contradiction an hour later..."

Max Hastings fortells the future, June 2019
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09/12/2020 13:36:11 4 9
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Clearly blinded by, "the person syndrome".... grow up..., please.
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09/12/2020 13:59:06 7 1
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But his (diminishing) fan club still love him. But remember, Trump still has his delusional supporters too. 'There's nowt so weird as folk'.
09/12/2020 14:05:12 2 1
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Project Surrender

LOL ROFl LOL
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09/12/2020 12:49:06 10 7
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Think fish will be on the menu tonight?
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09/12/2020 12:59:11 3 0
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I'm sure Johnson would be happy with just a bag of prawn cocktail crisps.
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09/12/2020 12:49:06 31 16
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Out of his depth, as usual.
Boris, when are you going to admit that everything you told us in 2016 was a load of porkies
"You can be sure there will be a deal" David Davis

"The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history" Liam Fox

"There is no plan for no deal because we are going to get a great deal" Boris Johnson

"I never promised it would be a huge success" Nigel farage

Is it any wonder that the turkeys voted for Christmas?
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09/12/2020 12:49:12 106 33
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"The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history.
We are already beginning with zero tariffs, and we are already beginning at the point of maximal regulatory equivalence, as it is called.
In other words, our rules and our laws are exactly the same" Liam Fox.
09/12/2020 14:05:42 0 0
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"In other words, our rules and our laws are exactly the same" Liam Fox."

yeah, and they always will be.
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09/12/2020 12:49:23 7 5
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Hope he brushes his hair
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09/12/2020 12:49:39 10 20
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We have offered so many things to the EU that they have not responded in turn with, what's the point?

We're allowing access to UK markets for EU investors, they're not allowing access to EU markets for UK investors.

We made absolutely clear all EU citizens in the UK would be allowed to stay, then the EU used UK citizens in the EU as cannon fodder.
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09/12/2020 12:53:19 3 1
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The EU seem determine to keep a master/servant relationship with all it's member states...even when they leave the EU. They know full well that what they want is unacceptable to any sovereign country with any sense of self-pride.....we should have gone cold-turkey 4 years ago....
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09/12/2020 12:50:06 9 16
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Boris is going to give Ursula an Oven Ready roasting for being an unelected EU leader.
eh? is that an attempt at brexiter humour? If so please for your own sake, dont give up the day job and go into stand up
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09/12/2020 13:00:40 0 1
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And who chose Boris as Conservative party leader, 90,000 Conservative party members.

On the other hand the EU leader is elected by EU parliament, of which U.K had 72 MEPs.
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09/12/2020 12:50:16 50 6
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Tribal politics and the resultant blame game have gone a long way to explain the current situation: no-one should blindly accept whatever political side they follow does, even if this is well off what they initially promise.

No-one’s perfect, but holding others to account, even those we support, and learning from faults is what makes us all better people; denying faults helps nobody.
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09/12/2020 13:21:56 34 20
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Margaret Thatcher was in favour of a Free Market and mutually beneficial cooperation, rather than a Federal Europe.
A position that I'm sure would have a huge majority , both here and throughout the EU.
It's a shame the EU Mandarins won't accept this.
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09/12/2020 13:23:14 3 0
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I can't believe you got any negative reads for this comment.

Any of you who did care to explain why BWhit480 is wrong?
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09/12/2020 12:50:33 117 47
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I vote for a once in a generation referendum on joining the EU
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09/12/2020 12:55:35 74 25
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We had one in 1975. The result was Yes.
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09/12/2020 13:03:35 22 10
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No, you voted to join the Common Market. We were taken into the EU without any consultation with the people.
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09/12/2020 13:44:50 6 1
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A once in a generation referendum that also doesn't break electoral law unlike that 2016 criminal act. And also an Electoral Commission with strength and gumption to do the right thing and not go on sick leave when things get tough.
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09/12/2020 13:57:18 2 3
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Not happening. There’s no appetite for a losing vote.
Pat
09/12/2020 14:27:03 0 1
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And the next once in a generation vote voted to leave
09/12/2020 14:30:06 0 0
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If you want a vote to rejoin the EU then better start making a political party that will stand on that premise - because none of the current main 3 will do so for a very long time now. You know, what with it being LibDem-esque electoral suicide and all that...
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09/12/2020 12:50:54 59 22
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Not long now to find out if he actually wants a deal or whether he is sticking the UK under a bus to make his tory billionaire mates even richer.
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09/12/2020 12:53:00 18 41
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How about if the EU want a deal? Because so far they haven't budged on ANY of our red lines despite us compromising on many things in their favour.
We're either to be considered independent equals or not. Simply saying yes to whatever is put in front of us is no way to negotiate.
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09/12/2020 13:26:18 3 2
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Don't underestimate Boris, he's quite capable of getting a bad deal whilst also making his Tory billionare mates even richer.
09/12/2020 14:38:50 0 1
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"The UK is the 5th largest economy in the world and equivalent to the 19th smallest EU member states combined. It's not like the Isle of Wight decided to up and leave the UK like the picture you try to paint of the UK vs the EU."

You haven't understood a blind word since 2014

If we ever held all the cards and we weren't supplicants led by imbeciles, with 2 weeks to go we'd have your amazing deal
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09/12/2020 12:48:38 7 8
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Don't sell us down the river Boris!
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09/12/2020 12:50:58 9 6
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never a user name more misused No deal a disaster for the UK
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09/12/2020 12:48:44 164 61
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Why do the EU bother with Boris?

Yes, it’s in the interests of the EU & the UK to reach an amicable deal, but Boris is a proven liar (sacked from positions several times as a result), a man who cheated on his wife during her cancer treatment, a sensationalist journalist who now criticises the media for sensationalist journalism...

How can they be expected to take him seriously and/or trust him?
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09/12/2020 12:51:01 70 29
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I think it's because he's the PM.
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09/12/2020 13:02:18 17 3
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you forgot to add "unfortunately."........
"I think its because he's the PM"

So witty!

To repeat - the question was - "How can they be expected to take him seriously and/or trust him?"

To which you and all the other clapped out clowns have no answer
Removed
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09/12/2020 13:51:54 1 1
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The tory Liar is no pm.
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09/12/2020 14:01:27 0 4
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Funny how you answer the question "Why do the EU bother with Boris?" with the sensible answer because he is PM & get grief from remainers!

Clearly sensible answers don't work here, although at least the person asking the question acknowledges a deal is in everyone's interest - although they missed the word 'fair' out.

Also some remainer comments make me think they shouldn't bring 'character' up!
09/12/2020 14:03:07 0 0
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In title only. He is certainly not performing the role.
He and his sycophantic cronies, Williamson the worst of the lot, are driving this country over a cliff to ruination.
09/12/2020 14:28:45 0 0
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So witty!

To repeat - the question was - "How can they be expected to take him seriously and/or trust him?"

To which you and all the others groveling to the dim lightbulb workshy philandering buffoon - have no answer
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09/12/2020 12:51:03 4 3
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In those immortal words of Frasier: "Oh, what fresh hell is this?"
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09/12/2020 12:48:38 7 8
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Don't sell us down the river Boris!
John the (not so) wise one

Surely you understand by now that Brexit (as you think you know it) is a lie

The UK is simply unable to go it alone and make a success of it

We need the EU and the USA

Leave with no deal and we trade freely with neither

Hmmmm, but maybe we can sell our cheeses to Chad or somewhere eh?
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09/12/2020 12:51:13 5 5
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Come on ya good for nothing PM, get a bloody deal so we can finally move on.
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09/12/2020 12:48:38 7 8
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Don't sell us down the river Boris!
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09/12/2020 12:51:25 1 4
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Absolutely correct. Boris tell Ursula we have changed our minds and will stay and we'll send the jingo's to Unicornland
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09/12/2020 12:51:30 11 15
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Oh here we go instantly that PMQs finishes the BBC raise this HYS so that more Boris bashing can unfold, what they fail to realise is that many know their political views are distorted.
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09/12/2020 12:46:46 18 31
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Why bother the EU isn’t interested in a deal only subservience
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09/12/2020 12:51:32 12 7
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Simply stupid!
Precisely the kind of ludicrous, tabloidesqe distortion that led to lemmings voting to head for a cliff.
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09/12/2020 12:51:35 7 12
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Again really BBC divide... Divide... Divide
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09/12/2020 12:51:41 4 4
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The referendum result was a statement about immigration and inequality massive dissatisfaction at the moment with the state of things and neither of which will be addressed,
you can argue that it should have been more than a binary choice , but a result is a result. Maybe in time we get another vote we'll see
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09/12/2020 13:08:12 0 0
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The problem is that none of those 'issues' were to do with our membership of the EU. It was always in our power to address them.

So, a lot of people voted in protest and, because the Leave campaign was staggeringly dishonest (and the Remain campaign complacent), they didn't properly understand the consequences. The result is a fiasco.
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09/12/2020 12:52:09 86 22
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Has the Daily Express got their headline together yet:-

"BORIS SAVES OUR FISH" in 50mm typeface

"and caves on everything else" in 3mm typeface
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09/12/2020 13:23:25 25 6
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I’m waiting to see the Daily Mail headline:
“So long, and thanks for all the fish”.
09/12/2020 14:07:42 2 0
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LOL ROFl LOL
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09/12/2020 12:52:20 1 5
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Boris' Brexit Brino gets slapped onto the table....
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09/12/2020 12:46:15 14 24
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Cue the Boris bashing….
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09/12/2020 12:52:20 6 2
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ye he is totally useless, the worse PM ever even May better
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09/12/2020 12:52:29 6 8
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All thats going to happen is they will have the dinner and then announce talks will continue... Why oh why is Boris allowing himself to be strung along... Just say no more talks, any hurried deal will be a bad deal...
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09/12/2020 12:47:27 15 24
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Go on Boris, the country is behind you!

All this needs is a little warmth, amicable and gentle humour, all the while maintaining a steely resolve.

Even some polite flattery will not do any harm.

Think Thatcher not May!
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09/12/2020 12:52:39 4 4
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Do you really think Boris makes any decisions for the benefit of the "country?" What can he and his mates get out of this will be uppermost in his mind. At best it is a desperate attempt to save face. No gains for us insignificant little people.
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09/12/2020 12:56:12 1 3
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This ongoing boring narrative of ‘jobs for his mates’, no-one cares!

They had a slight emergency called a global pandemic and had to use those they knew and trust.
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09/12/2020 12:48:44 164 61
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Why do the EU bother with Boris?

Yes, it’s in the interests of the EU & the UK to reach an amicable deal, but Boris is a proven liar (sacked from positions several times as a result), a man who cheated on his wife during her cancer treatment, a sensationalist journalist who now criticises the media for sensationalist journalism...

How can they be expected to take him seriously and/or trust him?
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09/12/2020 12:52:44 11 26
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Holier than thou comments about the level I suppose. His personal life is his own.
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dan
09/12/2020 12:56:01 39 8
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Disagree. Personal life give a clear indication of one's morals. If someone is happy to lie to their sick wife, they're happy to lie to the country.
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09/12/2020 12:58:58 27 5
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I dont think it even has anything to do with his personal life. He personally threatened the EU that he would break international law to U - turn on the previous agreement that he personally signed off on.

If anyone saw you as trustworthy after that then I would worry about their sanity.
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09/12/2020 13:19:48 13 3
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He was sacked by the Tories for lying, and The Times too.

"he is a brilliant entertainer who made a popular maître d’ for London as its mayor, he is unfit for national office, because it seems he cares for no interest save his own fame and gratification."

"Boris Johnson is a cavorting charlatan who will be an unfunny joke as PM".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/2gvE3Pa8Gv/Boris_Johnson_battles
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09/12/2020 12:50:06 9 16
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Boris is going to give Ursula an Oven Ready roasting for being an unelected EU leader.
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09/12/2020 12:52:47 10 4
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eh? is that an attempt at brexiter humour? If so please for your own sake, dont give up the day job and go into stand up
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09/12/2020 12:52:49 13 5
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putting duties, customs checks and local vat on British exports will definitely boost the UK economy!
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09/12/2020 12:47:27 15 24
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Go on Boris, the country is behind you!

All this needs is a little warmth, amicable and gentle humour, all the while maintaining a steely resolve.

Even some polite flattery will not do any harm.

Think Thatcher not May!
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09/12/2020 12:52:52 1 0
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Even Thatcher was in favour of the EU in general
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09/12/2020 12:59:29 2 0
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Don’t think she was, not at the end of her premiership.

There was an excellent documentary on TV recently ‘Thatcher: A Very British Revolution’ which clearly demonstrated her disdain.

She would be appalled at what the EU has become.
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09/12/2020 13:02:54 4 0
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Margaret Thatcher was in favour of a Free Market, not a Federal Europe.
A position that I'm sure would have a huge majority , both here and throughout the EU.
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09/12/2020 12:50:54 59 22
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Not long now to find out if he actually wants a deal or whether he is sticking the UK under a bus to make his tory billionaire mates even richer.
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09/12/2020 12:53:00 18 41
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How about if the EU want a deal? Because so far they haven't budged on ANY of our red lines despite us compromising on many things in their favour.
We're either to be considered independent equals or not. Simply saying yes to whatever is put in front of us is no way to negotiate.
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09/12/2020 12:55:59 19 6
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I hate to break it to you but we don't hold all the cards
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Ok
09/12/2020 12:59:35 17 4
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It’s been 4 years. How is it that after all this time, you still don’t know that what the UK wants, goes against the core values of the EU?
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09/12/2020 13:01:07 17 6
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Of course we're not going to be considered as equals. The EU is a 27-strong team of sovereign nations who together comprise one of the most successful tradiing blocs in history, with a membership that understands how economic unions work - smaller economies benefit from support which also turns them into viable, profitable markets for larger economies - win-win. The UK now is...what, exactly?
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09/12/2020 13:21:07 13 4
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"How about if the EU want a deal? Because so far they haven't budged on ANY of our red lines despite us compromising on many things in their favour."

Hilarious.

Surely you mean - we can name our terms and get whatever we want we hold all the cards etc etc etc

You lot can't even remember your own lies from yesterday

Its PITIFUL what you have inflicted on us
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BZ
09/12/2020 13:39:24 2 2
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They don't want to leave we do, its up to us to compromise
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09/12/2020 13:39:30 2 2
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Negotiation is about leverage, they clearly have more than us.
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09/12/2020 13:53:43 4 0
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OK Stuto please explain why BJ said in Prime Minister's Questions today that the "EU required access to our fishing grounds?" They don't they only "require" us to share fishing grounds if we want to sell our fish tariff free. If we are happy to accept the tariffs we can have all the fishing rights.
Same with adopting their rules, we absolutely don't have to but if we want tariff free access we do.
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09/12/2020 12:53:01 125 38
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Johnson going with nothing to offer.
Apart from jingoisms and lies.
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09/12/2020 13:41:46 8 25
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Clearly more than you have just offered!!!
09/12/2020 14:06:57 1 0
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Latest Brexit-Plan/Strategy

Project Surrender

LOL ROFl LOL
09/12/2020 14:39:08 0 0
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Bless, another remoaner still kicking and screaming.
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09/12/2020 12:49:39 10 20
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We have offered so many things to the EU that they have not responded in turn with, what's the point?

We're allowing access to UK markets for EU investors, they're not allowing access to EU markets for UK investors.

We made absolutely clear all EU citizens in the UK would be allowed to stay, then the EU used UK citizens in the EU as cannon fodder.
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09/12/2020 12:53:19 3 1
bbc
The EU seem determine to keep a master/servant relationship with all it's member states...even when they leave the EU. They know full well that what they want is unacceptable to any sovereign country with any sense of self-pride.....we should have gone cold-turkey 4 years ago....
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09/12/2020 12:58:27 2 3
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Yes you're correct. They are not about cooperation, they are about power and its is very evident to anyone who isn't cast under the spell of their lies. If all they cared about was cooperation between nations, they would be able to compromise on things like the ownership of our own fishing grounds and recognition of our (high) animal welfare standards.

They are just a superstate by another name.
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09/12/2020 12:48:44 164 61
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Why do the EU bother with Boris?

Yes, it’s in the interests of the EU & the UK to reach an amicable deal, but Boris is a proven liar (sacked from positions several times as a result), a man who cheated on his wife during her cancer treatment, a sensationalist journalist who now criticises the media for sensationalist journalism...

How can they be expected to take him seriously and/or trust him?
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09/12/2020 12:53:27 12 21
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Because he is the UK Prime Minister and for all your pontificating... Your not
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Jim
09/12/2020 12:57:25 16 7
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*you’re
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09/12/2020 13:21:20 1 0
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Go on guess, which one did you spell incorrectly.
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09/12/2020 12:53:50 0 1
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Okay; get the Big Red Bus.
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jon
09/12/2020 12:54:04 9 9
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I‘m happy with a sensible transition to fishing quotas controlled by the UK. But if the EU refuse to back down on sovereignty and independent dispute resolution Boris should walk away. We should then use no-deal to diverge as quickly as possible to ensure we never re-join.
Protect the 12,000 fishermen and risk the 800,000 jobs in our automotive industries or the 1.5 million jobs in financial services

Brexiter logic at its finest

Is it any wonder they are widely seen as neither the brightest nor the best of Brits
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09/12/2020 13:11:10 0 0
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So, with the tiny majority of 52/48, based entirely on lies and misinformation, you are determined to thwart the possible future will of the opponents to your view? Ensure we never re-join? That smacks of rabid dogma and has little to do with the good of the country. And please don't cite the 80-seat majority currently in the HoC - that will vanish in an instant. Who said Corbyn was crazy!
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09/12/2020 12:54:14 3 7
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I bet you remainers are glad you voted for Boris now
69
09/12/2020 12:56:41 7 1
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I’d never vote for that filthy piece of toe rag
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09/12/2020 12:54:42 4 9
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Bozo tells bad jokes to a German and gets nothing.... apart from a free meal.

And English Brexiteers expect "British" tax payers to pick up the bill for that.

What an utter farce the UK Prison is!
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09/12/2020 12:55:05 21 28
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Is this HYS any different to any other Brexit HYS in the last 3 months?

Nope, expect more of the same pointless comments from the bitter remainers
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09/12/2020 12:58:57 17 1
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And yet you keep turning up and saying the same things over and over as well ??

You see the irony?
718
09/12/2020 13:45:05 0 0
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Tess? Why don't you go outside and see if you can find a new friend. One is better than none
"You can be sure there will be a deal" David Davis

"The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history" Liam Fox

"There is no plan for no deal because we are going to get a great deal" Boris Johnson

"I never promised it would be a huge success" Nigel farage

Is it any wonder that the turkeys voted for Christmas?
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09/12/2020 12:55:10 16 44
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Is there a name for people who post the same thing over and over again, day in day out?
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09/12/2020 13:05:29 43 9
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Yes, Leavers, who for 41 years (plus the 4.5yrs since 2016) bleated on about sovereignty, fishing, foreigners, and the "bad" EU.
Yes a teacher

You deserve to be reminded of the harm you caused to the UK and the utter stupidity of it all on a daily basis until the UKs economy is thriving and comparable with what we had in 2015

Remember Mogg himself said it could be up to 50 years until the major benefits of brexit are felt

Get used to being reminded mate.......
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09/12/2020 13:09:54 28 7
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Patriotic?
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09/12/2020 13:15:01 31 4
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Is there a name for those that refuse to understand facts and have to resort to rhetoric?

Or keep going on about the War, the Germans & the French when they never fought in it?

Or have only 1 word in thier Brexit Vocabulary - Sovereignty?
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09/12/2020 13:15:07 17 1
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Leavers.
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09/12/2020 13:15:35 7 0
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Brexiters
415
09/12/2020 13:23:23 6 0
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Brexiteers
452
09/12/2020 13:25:50 3 0
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No, but there is a name for a process that repeats itself over and over again, day in day out

Brexit!
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09/12/2020 13:27:32 4 1
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Sad and Deluded
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09/12/2020 13:34:10 2 0
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Boring. By the way are you a Scottish Nationalist by any chance?
604
09/12/2020 13:38:41 1 1
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Yes. Correct & sensible
606
09/12/2020 13:38:48 3 0
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Yes there is a name for people who post the same things day in, day out. and if you post that name - you won't be wrong but those people will immediately report you for so doing.
667
09/12/2020 13:42:29 2 1
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Brexiters. They keep repeating the same lies over and over again, day in day out.

Hadn't you noticed?
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09/12/2020 13:44:43 1 1
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Patriotic
50
09/12/2020 12:55:12 10 8
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Let's take a moment to remember that we, the English, voted for this buffoon.

Now, let's take a good long look at ourselves and make sure this never, ever happens again.

And that includes making sure we have a credible opposition.
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09/12/2020 13:03:14 0 0
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Well it doesn't just include it, actually hinges on having a credible opposition because right now Johnson would still win a General Election. Most people need to realise though that the measure of credibility for the opposition is not simply that the government is perceived to be bad (through continued activism), the opposition needs to actively be very good indeed.
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09/12/2020 12:55:13 20 7
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For Boris Johnson nothing beats lying directly to someone's face.

If someone's has shown themsleves to be an untrustworthy liar it doesn't matter whether they do it to your face, via email or through a negotiatior.

The EU would be mad to think PM Johnson is acting in any kind of good faith and just wants to be able to say he tried his best before it all goes sideways in the new year.
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09/12/2020 12:55:29 2 6
bbc
What a load of rubbish BoJo hasn't gone to see Uschi about talks, he's gone for the Gluhwein and Christmas Markets.
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09/12/2020 12:55:33 5 5
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still hope for the £350 million a week NHS money
420
09/12/2020 13:23:27 1 0
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It never was 350 million. The ons has said 350 is a lie
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09/12/2020 12:50:33 117 47
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I vote for a once in a generation referendum on joining the EU
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09/12/2020 12:55:35 74 25
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We had one in 1975. The result was Yes.
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09/12/2020 13:01:27 15 6
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Minimum 18 years old to vote, the youngest in the 1975 referendum would have been born in 1957. I reckon 2020/2021 satisfies the criteria for 'once in a generation'.
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GA
09/12/2020 13:05:40 15 17
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And the one in 2016 returned a leave result. What's your point?
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09/12/2020 13:06:38 33 20
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That was to stay in the EEC, the trading community. The EU was not voted for in 1975. The EU is an unelected superstate akin to Germany's plans back in the 1930s.
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09/12/2020 13:07:41 26 10
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Not to be ruled by the unelected eu but to join a trade agreement
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09/12/2020 12:55:42 19 6
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Can we just get on with this so the NHS can start to receive their £350m weekly injection?
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09/12/2020 13:22:58 2 1
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We never did send 350 a week to the NHS. Office for National Statistics always said it was inflated and inaccurate
The ONS thinks our contribution is 11 bn per year (212 million/wk). Given the overall spending (~860 bn) if the government wanted to increase NHS spending it could.
Now factor in economic studies tend to show lower GPD out of the EU and lower tax income could decrease NHS spending!
09/12/2020 14:04:11 0 0
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I’m glad it won’t be anywhere near that much. We don’t want the NHS overwhelmed.
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09/12/2020 12:55:46 12 4
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Will he be taking all the cards with him?
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09/12/2020 13:04:58 10 2
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Wot ! his Cabinet and his P45 ?
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09/12/2020 12:55:50 6 10
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“Just how much more will Germany tolerate to keep the dysfunctional euro together?With more monetary support needed, the euro project hangs together but by an unholy alliance of vested interests”

Could not agree more.Parent bailing out the wayward EU children!

As for Starmer in PMQ’s today.Did not have a clue.Quite prepared to sign up to a deal in which the EU dictates which laws the UK passes!
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09/12/2020 12:55:50 11 9
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Boris puts the UK up for sale the asking price 2 fish
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09/12/2020 13:28:26 1 0
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Better than Albert Steptoe selling us down the river or just sitting on the fence weighing up what would give him most votes.
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09/12/2020 12:53:00 18 41
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How about if the EU want a deal? Because so far they haven't budged on ANY of our red lines despite us compromising on many things in their favour.
We're either to be considered independent equals or not. Simply saying yes to whatever is put in front of us is no way to negotiate.
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09/12/2020 12:55:59 19 6
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I hate to break it to you but we don't hold all the cards
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09/12/2020 13:00:14 13 5
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So in your mind we are playing a game and not just trying to cooperate. The aim in your mind, is to win against the other and not to create a mutually beneficial arrangement. That is EXACTLY the problem here, don't you see.
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09/12/2020 13:03:51 11 3
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correct - our exports to EU - 43% The whole of the EU exports to the UK - 8% ! and we are still doing this!!??
908
09/12/2020 13:58:55 3 2
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Actually, the cards we hold are:

Mr Bun The Baker
Two knaves
A Community Chest card
A used Phonecard
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mel
09/12/2020 12:56:00 159 31
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All the lies we were told at the referendum about the 'EU being desperate for a deal' and 'we will have our cake and eat it' are all unravelling.
The trouble with telling lies is that eventually you get found out - when people start losing their jobs and incomes as a result of this self inflicted calamity, there will be a lot of angry people out there.
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09/12/2020 13:01:58 128 26
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I work in automotive. I know of 3 factories in the UK that have closed. The reason, the EU automotive sector is significantly larger than the UK's and those factories need to be the right side of the tariff barrier. Jobs losses are already happening.
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09/12/2020 13:18:25 25 2
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They'll still blame the EU.
464
09/12/2020 13:26:54 23 0
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Will they be angry enough not to re elect the Tories, Or will they fall for another smear campaign
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09/12/2020 13:39:31 3 14
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Good job Labour didn't get in then.....move on!!!
673
09/12/2020 13:42:45 11 1
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Sadly, the People who SHOULD lose their jobs, the Politicians who got us into this mess, are the ones who will still have jobs when everyone else has lost theirs.
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09/12/2020 13:53:15 0 3
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Everyone looks happy. It’s just the miserable few that post on here. Enjoy.
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09/12/2020 13:57:29 2 6
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Yes, maybe...but I'll guarantee you this, there'll be even more people who are dancing for joy at ridding ourselves of a dictatorial, bureaucratic mess who have never treated the UK with respect or fairness.
09/12/2020 14:05:59 2 0
bbc
Latest Brexit-Plan/Strategy

Project Surrender

LOL ROFl LOL
09/12/2020 14:12:42 2 0
bbc
Make a mistake at an election and you'll get the chance to correct it later. Make a mistake at the Brexit ref and you're stuck with the outcome forever. Stupi, stupid, stupid!
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09/12/2020 12:52:44 11 26
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Holier than thou comments about the level I suppose. His personal life is his own.
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dan
09/12/2020 12:56:01 39 8
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Disagree. Personal life give a clear indication of one's morals. If someone is happy to lie to their sick wife, they're happy to lie to the country.
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09/12/2020 12:56:01 59 8
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I bet you remainers are glad you voted for Boris now

===

I think you have it all backwards. Since when did Remoaners vote for Boris?
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09/12/2020 13:03:03 15 43
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You mean you voted for Labour (more fool you, with Comrade Corbyn in charge, as he was then)? Or the SNP (if you're in Scotland). You couldn't have voted LibDem - only 11 of them made it into Westminster. Maybe you just didn't vote, still in a huff since losing the one in 2016?
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09/12/2020 13:26:26 2 4
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Indeed I am. Had I voted for Albert Steptoe god knows what sort of stitch up we'd have been committed to. Couldn't trust that old fool to sit the right way on a toilet seat
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09/12/2020 13:41:41 6 1
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Well it was a rock and a hard place between the idiot brexiter Boris, the idiot brexiter Corbyn and a totally ineffective Lib Dem party that put party before country and refused to cooperate to oppose Brexit or force a soft Brexit.

Pity us thinking people, we had nowhere to turn.
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09/12/2020 13:44:45 3 5
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Haven't you heard? They are not called 'Remoaners' anymore. The new nomenclature is 'Trumpsters', in honour of ignoring voting results.
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09/12/2020 13:56:38 2 1
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quitSki fool. Tell us about 'patriotism', clown.
09/12/2020 14:27:53 1 0
bbc
Actually according to polling a lot of remain supporting Conservatives did vote for Johnson on the basis that they could cope with the thought of Corbyn as PM. While I appreciate Corbyn as PM isn't a terribly palatable idea, in hindsight it is pretty clear now that he couldn't have been any worse than Johnson and I'm sure there are remainer Conservatives who deeply regret voting for Johnson now.
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09/12/2020 12:56:10 137 30
bbc
After four and a half years, three prime ministers, two general elections, 64 resignations and 3,498 U-turns, Boris Johnson flies to Brussels at the last possible moment to secure ‘easiest deal in history’.
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09/12/2020 13:06:20 82 18
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And four Secretaries of State for Brexit.

And one Michel Barnier.

It's almost as if one side can't agree what they want.
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09/12/2020 13:08:01 6 0
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For his first visit to Brussels as PM.
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09/12/2020 13:24:38 3 1
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"...and a partridge in a pear treeeeee!"
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09/12/2020 13:56:05 1 0
bbc
Well done for reading the HIGNFY status on social media ;)
09/12/2020 14:06:47 0 0
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Latest Brexit-Plan/Strategy

Project Surrender

LOL ROFl LOL
09/12/2020 14:31:07 0 0
bbc
And a partridge in a pear tree????Merry brexmas one and all??
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09/12/2020 12:52:39 4 4
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Do you really think Boris makes any decisions for the benefit of the "country?" What can he and his mates get out of this will be uppermost in his mind. At best it is a desperate attempt to save face. No gains for us insignificant little people.
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09/12/2020 12:56:12 1 3
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This ongoing boring narrative of ‘jobs for his mates’, no-one cares!

They had a slight emergency called a global pandemic and had to use those they knew and trust.
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09/12/2020 12:56:33 7 14
bbc
EU on the run.
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09/12/2020 12:59:52 7 1
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In what way? They are currently saying no! This is not a war, it is an attempt to find common ground to do a trade deal. If there is no common ground it will be an issue in January
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09/12/2020 12:56:36 2 2
bbc
So I guess Boris hasn't walked away.

Liar.
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09/12/2020 13:23:26 0 1
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Not yet, that's not to say he won't though. At least he's been prepared to play hard ball unlike the Labour party who would have rolled over, taken it up the tail pipe and ignored the electorates wishes.
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09/12/2020 12:56:37 8 12
bbc
Very good explanation on BBC politics showing the term "oven ready" applied to Withdrawal agreement, not trade deal, Starmer out of touch at PMQ's.
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cb
09/12/2020 12:57:15 4 2
bbc
We must have watched a different programme....
Bollocks , more Tory BS & lies . it said "Oven ready DEAL" NOT Oven Ready Withdrawal Agreement. Removed
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09/12/2020 13:00:11 4 1
bbc
Johnson deliberately used an ambiguous statement because he knew his followers would fall for the deceit.
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09/12/2020 13:02:38 0 1
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Move them goalposts
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09/12/2020 13:05:54 0 0
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oh well that's ok then - Brexit will be great then..?!??
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jon
09/12/2020 12:54:04 9 9
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I‘m happy with a sensible transition to fishing quotas controlled by the UK. But if the EU refuse to back down on sovereignty and independent dispute resolution Boris should walk away. We should then use no-deal to diverge as quickly as possible to ensure we never re-join.
Protect the 12,000 fishermen and risk the 800,000 jobs in our automotive industries or the 1.5 million jobs in financial services

Brexiter logic at its finest

Is it any wonder they are widely seen as neither the brightest nor the best of Brits
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09/12/2020 13:00:08 1 0
bbc
Financial Services don't just apply to the EU....they are worldwide...and who knows, it may be an opportunity to increase the worldwide aspect
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jon
09/12/2020 13:00:37 1 0
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The same applies to Macron using your logic!
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09/12/2020 12:54:14 3 7
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I bet you remainers are glad you voted for Boris now
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09/12/2020 12:56:41 7 1
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I’d never vote for that filthy piece of toe rag
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cb
09/12/2020 12:56:44 5 2
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When did ‘Australia type’ become a synonym for no?
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09/12/2020 13:00:09 1 0
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Because Australia does not have a comprehensive free trade deal with the EU, but a series of agreements covering different aspects of Aus-EU trade. Which we will have when we end up with no comprehensive free-trade deal.
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09/12/2020 12:56:57 9 16
bbc
The whole point of Brexit is to be able to undercut the EU on costs. We must not give way and permit a "level playing field" or we risk being trapped in a socialist, and uncompetitive, nightmare for ever.
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09/12/2020 13:11:06 0 0
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By costs you must mean minimum wages, no workers rights etc.
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09/12/2020 12:57:02 0 2
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And what will they eat ? ... Escargots naturellemente !!
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jon
09/12/2020 12:58:33 5 0
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Waffles
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09/12/2020 12:57:05 6 3
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Beggars can't be choosers. I expect Boris to be told what is on offer and then to go away and work out how he can get it past a divided parliament and nation.
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09/12/2020 12:57:12 4 5
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Waste of time. Bojo already wants a no deal. Why else would he only be taking an active role now?
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09/12/2020 13:08:54 3 0
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He's under orders from his mega rich backers who will benefit the most from no deal. Him and his party are at the behest of the billionaires and the oligarch donors. Sadly its the working class that he fooled into putting him in downing st. Little Englanders, you reap what you sow.
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SDG
09/12/2020 13:12:31 0 0
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Eh, no. Not our dear Boris. A man so obsessed with his own vanity and self importance that he penned two versions of that 2016 Telegraph atricle.
He will, out of despartion, take the deal that the EU and UK had worked out back in the Summer. Then proclaim to the world that HE made the breakthrough.
Thus he gets his "great man" moment. Victory in Europe - almost Churchillian.
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09/12/2020 12:56:37 8 12
bbc
Very good explanation on BBC politics showing the term "oven ready" applied to Withdrawal agreement, not trade deal, Starmer out of touch at PMQ's.
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cb
09/12/2020 12:57:15 4 2
bbc
We must have watched a different programme....
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09/12/2020 12:57:19 51 3
bbc
It seems quite possible that a deal will not be struck in time to meet the year-end deadline. However it is very unlikely that a situation will be allowed to persist where there is no trade deal at all based on the mutuality of existing trade between the EU and the UK. After cooling off there will certainly be more trade talks instigated by one or both parties - probably sooner rather than later .
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09/12/2020 13:00:06 57 1
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Don't come here with your common-sense: The Terminally Outraged can't cope with it.
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09/12/2020 13:19:27 4 3
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If there is No Deal - the VERY NEXT DAY there will be negotiations opened. They will never ever end. The EU has much bigger fish to fry - ironically enough - &don't have to engage in the xenophobic fantasies of clapped out clowns with no knowledge or interest

Nihilistic angry boomers have never been able to accept this extremely simple point which has been pointed out, day in/out, for five years.
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09/12/2020 13:41:52 3 0
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I think thats a very logical solution but which relies on Politicians having thier Economy & Business head on rather than the politically dogmatic one.

Not a lot of that on show so far.
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SP
09/12/2020 13:43:35 3 2
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What circumstances are going to change for a trade deal to be concluded after 1 January, given that one cannot be agreed just before? Mis-placed optimism, I think.
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JD
09/12/2020 13:52:38 1 2
bbc
Is a plan to drop corporate taxes to just lower than Irelands, Lichtenstiens, or the 5% intellectual property tax for Luxembourg a way to suggest that an agreement would be in the EUs interests. SOme double standards seem to be open to discussion surely?
"You can be sure there will be a deal" David Davis

"The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history" Liam Fox

"There is no plan for no deal because we are going to get a great deal" Boris Johnson

"I never promised it would be a huge success" Nigel farage

Is it any wonder that the turkeys voted for Christmas?
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09/12/2020 12:57:22 46 5
bbc
Don't forget Boris stating that if we don't get a deal that it would be a complete failure of statecraft and this big one:

"We hold all the cards"....
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09/12/2020 13:40:11 4 0
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"We hold all the cards"

Unfortunately it now appears everyone else is using a proper deck to play poker with and Boris is trying to play with his set that has "Go fish!" written on them...
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09/12/2020 12:53:27 12 21
bbc
Because he is the UK Prime Minister and for all your pontificating... Your not
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Jim
09/12/2020 12:57:25 16 7
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*you’re
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09/12/2020 12:57:44 9 5
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How can we say we're "regaining our sovereignty" when most English water companies (the most essential utility) are owned by EU state-owned firms? Ditto major electricity suppliers, ditto rail companies. I've seen nothing about action to be taken about this come the day.
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SDG
09/12/2020 13:02:23 3 0
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Shhh... Not a word about that please.
The Tories like that type of European. A European with money and a desire to profit of the British public, well thats practically British.
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09/12/2020 13:05:08 0 0
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Because globalism. Ending it is a good thing and you have to start somewhere.
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bbc
See Merkel the vampire has now come out of hiding in the shadows giving secret orders.. to say something in public how that the last gasp has come. Removed
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09/12/2020 12:47:25 181 67
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I pity her with that useless fool.
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09/12/2020 12:57:47 94 150
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Remember Von Der Leyen, Juncker, Verhofstadt and Barnier were all failed domestic politicians !! They now seem to seek a way to exercise as much power as possible via the EU to compensate for their past failures....whatever the "little man syndrome" is in the world of politicans....
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09/12/2020 13:03:15 39 7
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Whereas our Johnson is a successful domestic politican? He's the worst of the lot by far and an embarassment to this country.
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09/12/2020 13:08:32 28 4
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"...I have a hunch that Johnson will come to regret securing the prize for which he has struggled so long, because the experience of the premiership will lay bare his absolute unfitness for it..."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain

Max hastings, Johnsons boss at the Telegraph, June 2019.
All failed domestic politicians with "little man syndrome"? Like Nigel Farage?
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09/12/2020 13:14:42 31 4
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Failed politicians: Juncker was 20 years PM of Luxemburg and Verhofstadt was PM of Belgium. Does not look like failed politicians to me, certainly not compared to most UK politicians since 2010. If Barnier counts as a failed politician, then they must have extremely good politicians in France. I guess you only read British newspapers (if that is the right description of these periodicals).
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09/12/2020 13:20:18 1 1
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Boris will be in good company
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09/12/2020 13:22:07 6 1
bbc
And the blond bumble machine is not a failed politician?? hahahah
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BZ
09/12/2020 13:32:24 2 2
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They should be ok with our PM then as he is also a failed politician
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09/12/2020 13:54:08 3 0
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I doubt you could call von Der Leyen a failed domestic politician. She has been Minister of Social Affairs and then Minister of Defence. The fact that you do not like her role does not make her a failed politician!
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09/12/2020 13:56:15 2 0
bbc
The same goes for Verhostadt and Barnier, both succesful politicians in their own countries.
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09/12/2020 12:57:58 119 30
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Boris: Ah yes - Europe - that great Bastion of Europeness... waffle waffle... blitz spirit... Mephistopholes... blitz spirit... chuckle!

Ursula: How on earth did the UK get taken in by a complete and utter cretinous buffoon like you?

Boris: Played them against one another - made up stuff that doesn't actually exist. You'd be surprised how many fearful people live in this great country of ours!
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09/12/2020 13:18:16 15 60
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My my, what an imaginative soul you are. Do you lose sleep thinking up all these scenarios and who says what lol
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09/12/2020 13:33:52 10 0
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Like the USA populism politics, not forgetting that politicians have been blaming Europe for everything, and backed by the right wing press...

whatever happens I see changes coming when we find out the truth unless Boris can lead us to the promised "better deal than we have", people will remember when it hits them in their pockets, and austerity is going to be very, very painful
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09/12/2020 13:56:55 0 0
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"Making up stuff that doesn't actually exist" - an accusation that can pretty much be levelled at the majority who reside in the house of commons!
09/12/2020 14:07:19 0 0
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Latest Brexit-Plan/Strategy

Project Surrender

LOL ROFl LOL
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09/12/2020 12:58:10 0 2
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Oven ready escargots !!
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09/12/2020 12:58:22 8 4
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We'll get the Grove/May BRINO deal...A polished turd indeed.
The end of the Tory party is nigh...
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09/12/2020 12:59:55 1 0
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Apologies i meant Gove..Damn phone :)
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09/12/2020 13:16:30 1 0
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Ha ha ha ha, heard that phrase so many times it's boring
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09/12/2020 12:53:19 3 1
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The EU seem determine to keep a master/servant relationship with all it's member states...even when they leave the EU. They know full well that what they want is unacceptable to any sovereign country with any sense of self-pride.....we should have gone cold-turkey 4 years ago....
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09/12/2020 12:58:27 2 3
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Yes you're correct. They are not about cooperation, they are about power and its is very evident to anyone who isn't cast under the spell of their lies. If all they cared about was cooperation between nations, they would be able to compromise on things like the ownership of our own fishing grounds and recognition of our (high) animal welfare standards.

They are just a superstate by another name.
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09/12/2020 12:57:02 0 2
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And what will they eat ? ... Escargots naturellemente !!
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jon
09/12/2020 12:58:33 5 0
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Waffles
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09/12/2020 12:58:34 6 3
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I'm hopeful that Boris will put our welfare above his political ambitions. I fear the worst though. My work is 'on ice'. We might be history by this time next year.
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09/12/2020 12:58:46 5 3
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Why would the EU believe any agreements Johnson makes after he was willing to break the Withdrawal Agreement before his signature was even wet?

His behaviour only exemplifies the importance of tying the UK to cast iron rules with strict enforcement mechanisms. It was to stop this kind of rogue, opportunist mentality among European Nations that the EU was created in the first place.
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09/12/2020 13:12:28 2 0
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Agree. That's why Michael Gove had to go to Brussels and backpedal there. But the devil came out in full light. Nobody believes in UK's signature any more as anyone trusts the post-Trump US in Europe.
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09/12/2020 13:15:07 0 0
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What it started out as and the monster it has become are two separate things. It was a common Market now it's a superstate without occupation battles
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09/12/2020 12:58:57 3 3
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Where's dope with his 80 seat majority now?
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09/12/2020 13:02:03 1 5
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You mean Corbyn?
Oh no, he failed miserably.

We love Boris!
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09/12/2020 13:11:22 0 0
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Wherever he is he still has a serious majority
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09/12/2020 12:55:05 21 28
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Is this HYS any different to any other Brexit HYS in the last 3 months?

Nope, expect more of the same pointless comments from the bitter remainers
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09/12/2020 12:58:57 17 1
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And yet you keep turning up and saying the same things over and over as well ??

You see the irony?
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09/12/2020 13:03:47 0 2
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And i trigger you every time.

You see the irony?
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09/12/2020 12:58:58 6 14
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Remainers quiet happy to be run by Germany & France as long as there’s a few quid in it for themselves
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09/12/2020 13:01:56 0 0
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I’ve already made plenty of money out of Brexit.

Thanx.

??
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09/12/2020 13:03:15 1 0
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We’re not though are we and never were.
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09/12/2020 13:08:30 0 0
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As opposed to getting Brexit and all being poorer..???! ( except the very rich) ahl take the Germans and French please! :-)
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09/12/2020 12:58:58 38 9
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If Boris continues to insist that giving something in return for taking something is being "punished" then I don't see much chance of a deal.

Hopefully he's gone over to be sensible, but I fear his intentions are simply for appearances and to be able to paint the EU as the pantomime baddie.
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09/12/2020 13:01:17 41 8
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Boris and sensible dont go together......
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09/12/2020 12:52:44 11 26
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Holier than thou comments about the level I suppose. His personal life is his own.
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09/12/2020 12:58:58 27 5
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I dont think it even has anything to do with his personal life. He personally threatened the EU that he would break international law to U - turn on the previous agreement that he personally signed off on.

If anyone saw you as trustworthy after that then I would worry about their sanity.
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09/12/2020 12:59:01 52 28
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The fact that Boris is going to Brussels speaks volumes. i.e. The UK needs a deal more than Europe does.
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09/12/2020 13:01:27 31 14
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No - It reflects the fact that there is an EU Summit the next day.
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09/12/2020 13:09:43 8 2
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So what about all the trips from Barnier and his mob recently ?Extended ones at that. It says nothing apart from both sides are playing hard ball, which is what was expected. If it goes no deal then Macron might not get any fish lol. He'll have to start negotiating again but whatever happens it'll have to be with other EU states approval.
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09/12/2020 13:26:30 5 3
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What utter guff!. Both sides need a deal. The EU will loose a hell of a lot if there is no deal. The French, and Spanish fr=armers will have no one to take their produce, the French and Italians will have no one to take their wine, the German auto industry will loose a huge part of their market. So tell me mr Knowitall. Who out of the 27 other countries will make up the shortfall ?
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09/12/2020 12:49:06 10 7
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Think fish will be on the menu tonight?
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09/12/2020 12:59:11 3 0
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I'm sure Johnson would be happy with just a bag of prawn cocktail crisps.
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09/12/2020 12:56:37 8 12
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Very good explanation on BBC politics showing the term "oven ready" applied to Withdrawal agreement, not trade deal, Starmer out of touch at PMQ's.
Bollocks , more Tory BS & lies . it said "Oven ready DEAL" NOT Oven Ready Withdrawal Agreement. Removed
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09/12/2020 12:59:21 0 2
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If there is a deal, there is going to need to be some significant spinning of how this deal is better than the current one for everyone who thinks were going to suffer economically compared to now and how it satisfies the no deal utopia our future could be as some of our fellow countrymen believe. Either way I bet it will be a Bait-and-switch announcement.
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09/12/2020 13:06:49 0 0
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There doesn't need to be any spinning at all. We're already out, so you've lost that 'deal' anyway. There is either an agreement both sides can live with, or there is no deal, we finish the withdrawal period, and the negotiators continue for years trying to hammer one out while the UK is free to ignore the restrictions the EU want to put upon it.
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09/12/2020 12:52:52 1 0
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Even Thatcher was in favour of the EU in general
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09/12/2020 12:59:29 2 0
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Don’t think she was, not at the end of her premiership.

There was an excellent documentary on TV recently ‘Thatcher: A Very British Revolution’ which clearly demonstrated her disdain.

She would be appalled at what the EU has become.
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09/12/2020 12:53:00 18 41
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How about if the EU want a deal? Because so far they haven't budged on ANY of our red lines despite us compromising on many things in their favour.
We're either to be considered independent equals or not. Simply saying yes to whatever is put in front of us is no way to negotiate.
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Ok
09/12/2020 12:59:35 17 4
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It’s been 4 years. How is it that after all this time, you still don’t know that what the UK wants, goes against the core values of the EU?
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09/12/2020 12:56:33 7 14
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EU on the run.
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09/12/2020 12:59:52 7 1
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In what way? They are currently saying no! This is not a war, it is an attempt to find common ground to do a trade deal. If there is no common ground it will be an issue in January