Act now to save 'precious UK', English mayors urge PM
09/12/2020 | news | politics | 359
Sadiq Khan and Andy Burnham lead calls for a review of how power is shared across the country.
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MVS
09/12/2020 10:35:07 50 13
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If Sadiq Khan is the answer to any problem then we are all doomed.
And why do the BBC London team never take him to task on anything. I watch London news every day and have not seen a single interview with him since March where his appalling management of the pandemic in London has been challenged.
Even this site has only positive articles about him and his policies.
Where is the balance?
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09/12/2020 11:12:45 44 16
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What do you expect it is the Brussels Broadcasting Company driven by Political correctness and socialist ideals!
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09/12/2020 14:40:02 6 0
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Well, it is the Biased Broadcasting Corporation!
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09/12/2020 18:01:05 2 0
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Tim Davie PROMISED fair and balanced reporting months ago, assured me by email signed Tim, HE does read every email over time, now appears you can't get near him, twice been re directed back to the round Robin that is mediation. And we or at least some of us pay for this shameful biased reporting
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09/12/2020 10:35:57 12 12
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Typical Tory policy.....divide and rule
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09/12/2020 10:49:06 13 7
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Devolution was a New Labour policy
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09/12/2020 11:11:12 0 0
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another stupid remark
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09/12/2020 10:38:15 21 16
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PR for Parliament would be a good start.
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09/12/2020 10:48:45 5 8
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Public Relations?
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09/12/2020 11:10:51 4 4
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Then nothing would get done, Look around and see the mess they are in with PR in place. Italy has a new Government every 9 months. Greece every 6 months and only the rich and gangsters get a say. Is that what you want??
I'm not saying our system is perfect BUT it does endure, it does keep us free and it does keep us fed and every one of us can become successful if we apply ourselves properly!
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09/12/2020 11:56:37 4 3
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At least the first past the post is simple to understand, less open to fraud, quick to return a result and gives a straightforward answer.

You might not get the result you want every time because we don’t all vote the same.
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09/12/2020 10:41:02 38 9
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Could this possibly be the same Sadiq Khan who criticised Boris Johnson on his plans to move Civil Service jobs from London to Middleborough?
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09/12/2020 16:09:04 6 1
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Very good point.
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09/12/2020 10:41:07 12 10
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These regional mayors are just another expensive, unnecessary layer of second rate politicians. Regardless of what political party they are from their only job seem to be forever coming up meaningless proclamations and projects.
Just how many layers do we need. Parish councils, district councils, unitary councils, regional mayors, devolved parliaments and Westminster. ‘Even fleas have fleas’
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09/12/2020 11:08:33 1 0
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england has them all
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09/12/2020 10:42:32 1 8
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you are run by westminster as england voted for them,tories will never give the north anything that resumes devolution or even a say now their safe with an 80 majority,you cannot have another scotland on your doorstep making their own laws to suit their people,north belongs to the south and will obey all johnsons rules and instructions,tells you something when 67% becomes 80% south rules you all
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09/12/2020 11:05:50 2 1
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Please tell us what system YOU would wish to put in place to run this Country? You are obviously full of hate for your Country and a Political system that has run for the past 500 years and endured fools like yourself. In China or Russia you get shot for criticising the Government. Surely that system MUST endure even your childish ranting!
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09/12/2020 10:42:37 6 8
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These remainor mayors should be speaking to their EU friends then shouldn’t they as that is where the impediment lies!!
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09/12/2020 10:44:14 2 0
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they actually do that anyways and boris doesnt know
Liverpool is run by Labour mafia Removed
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09/12/2020 10:44:48 6 4
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westminster by tory mafia
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09/12/2020 10:43:34 16 11
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Do they not realise that all these metro Mayors are part of the problem? Together with devolution, they are chopping up the UK into smaller and smaller chunks - all fighting like ferrets in a sack for an ever bigger slice of the pie at the expense of everywhere else, each of them acting as though their bit of the country is the most important and everywhere else can go hang.
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Dai
09/12/2020 10:44:10 1 0
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Annibyniaeth!
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09/12/2020 10:42:37 6 8
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These remainor mayors should be speaking to their EU friends then shouldn’t they as that is where the impediment lies!!
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09/12/2020 10:44:14 2 0
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they actually do that anyways and boris doesnt know
Liverpool is run by Labour mafia Removed
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09/12/2020 10:44:48 6 4
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westminster by tory mafia
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09/12/2020 11:01:10 0 0
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Another silly childish remark. There are too many on HYS, typical of the BBC!
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csk
09/12/2020 10:44:57 4 5
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I am Scottish living in Scotland, and I don't see any point to the union any more. Please convince me otherwise
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09/12/2020 10:46:52 4 3
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English money ...
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09/12/2020 10:48:13 3 1
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I don't think anyone in England is that arsed to be honest.
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09/12/2020 10:48:53 3 2
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I am English living in England, and I'm not sure I do either to be honest. No country should be held in any organisation of any kind that it doesn't want to be in. A vote for the SNP in next years Holyrood elections will be a vote for IndyRef2, and if the SNP gains a majority, then in my mind they will have the mandate for it. Good luck!
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09/12/2020 10:59:50 3 2
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The Union has only been the MOST successful amalgamation of kingdoms EVER in the world. It has lasted over 300 years and has made us all very well looked after, healthy and long living in the history of mankind and every adult over the age of 18 years gets 1 vote, majority wins that is DEMOCRACY. And you want to break it up??? Now can YOU think of another system that has endured longer?
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09/12/2020 10:45:27 13 9
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you vill obey westminster or be chucked under the no deal bus
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09/12/2020 10:48:13 19 5
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Any thoughts on Labour bribery and witness intimidation in Liverpool ... or do I get knee capped for mentioning it ?
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09/12/2020 10:55:01 5 2
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OH dear, do grow up. If that's all you can say go sit on the naughty step!
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09/12/2020 10:45:58 19 13
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When will Labour apologise for devolution ?
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09/12/2020 11:06:04 6 9
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no way boris loves it and so do we scots,tory free come next may,huzzah
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csk
09/12/2020 10:44:57 4 5
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I am Scottish living in Scotland, and I don't see any point to the union any more. Please convince me otherwise
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09/12/2020 10:46:52 4 3
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English money ...
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09/12/2020 11:26:19 0 0
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No, convince.
Not bribe.

;)
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09/12/2020 10:47:01 4 8
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English independence, then regional assemblies (ancient Kingdoms, Northumbria, Mercia etc) with similar devolved powers as Wales.
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09/12/2020 11:19:13 4 0
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Just give us parity with Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland. A parliament for England.
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09/12/2020 11:21:04 0 0
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Then the fighting starts, we got over that 1000 years ago, we MUST stick together, be proud of our Country and forge ahead as we so often have done these past 500 years. Don't be fooled by the devolutionists, they are sooth sayers and will destroy all that we have done!!
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09/12/2020 10:47:27 88 35
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Metropolitan Mayors are a waste of space. Get rid of them.
Keith is a waste of space too. Removed
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09/12/2020 13:30:02 11 6
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Agreed. Nothing but a waste of money on vanity projects. At least Bojo installed some useful cycle infrastructure, but what has Sadiq done? Blocked roads, caused gridlock, changed some street names to erase the history he doesn't like and spent millions on PR.

The bus hopper fare is only good thing I can think of that he's done. What's he done to adapt TfL to save its finances? Nothing.
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09/12/2020 14:40:23 11 4
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Exactly. Burnham and Khan are self-publicists at best who reward their mates with highly paid jobs. Lots of TFL jobs >£100k.
Sadiq Khan at the beginning of March said there was no risk of people catching coronavirus while travelling on buses or trains in the capital. It's in print. Millions of people then spread Covid in London and people died - he was quick to point the finger of blame at govt.
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09/12/2020 20:25:11 4 2
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I notice they ask questions Keith that seems to go down like a lead balloon with the Government. The more Mayors the Merrier..
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csk
09/12/2020 10:44:57 4 5
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I am Scottish living in Scotland, and I don't see any point to the union any more. Please convince me otherwise
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09/12/2020 10:48:13 3 1
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I don't think anyone in England is that arsed to be honest.
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09/12/2020 10:45:27 13 9
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you vill obey westminster or be chucked under the no deal bus
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09/12/2020 10:48:13 19 5
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Any thoughts on Labour bribery and witness intimidation in Liverpool ... or do I get knee capped for mentioning it ?
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09/12/2020 10:38:15 21 16
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PR for Parliament would be a good start.
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09/12/2020 10:48:45 5 8
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Public Relations?
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csk
09/12/2020 10:44:57 4 5
bbc
I am Scottish living in Scotland, and I don't see any point to the union any more. Please convince me otherwise
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09/12/2020 10:48:53 3 2
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I am English living in England, and I'm not sure I do either to be honest. No country should be held in any organisation of any kind that it doesn't want to be in. A vote for the SNP in next years Holyrood elections will be a vote for IndyRef2, and if the SNP gains a majority, then in my mind they will have the mandate for it. Good luck!
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09/12/2020 10:35:57 12 12
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Typical Tory policy.....divide and rule
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09/12/2020 10:49:06 13 7
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Devolution was a New Labour policy
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09/12/2020 11:05:28 1 0
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So your cons will oppose it I guess ;)

Like Iraq and gambling.
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09/12/2020 10:54:06 22 9
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do you see what is now happening? the pigs are at the trough fighting over who gets the money. This is the most disgusting thing ever after devolution all of which is divisive, expensive and totally unwarranted. It has divided the United Kingdom and now divides areas within England. The greatest mistake Our foolish Politicians have made to justify their lives. These are failed Politicians!!
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09/12/2020 10:45:27 13 9
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you vill obey westminster or be chucked under the no deal bus
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09/12/2020 10:55:01 5 2
bbc
OH dear, do grow up. If that's all you can say go sit on the naughty step!
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csk
09/12/2020 10:44:57 4 5
bbc
I am Scottish living in Scotland, and I don't see any point to the union any more. Please convince me otherwise
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09/12/2020 10:59:50 3 2
bbc
The Union has only been the MOST successful amalgamation of kingdoms EVER in the world. It has lasted over 300 years and has made us all very well looked after, healthy and long living in the history of mankind and every adult over the age of 18 years gets 1 vote, majority wins that is DEMOCRACY. And you want to break it up??? Now can YOU think of another system that has endured longer?
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09/12/2020 11:07:56 1 0
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signed by a couple of drunkards,oh yes its just a piece of paper after all easily ripped apart
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09/12/2020 11:00:27 63 23
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Devolved Government & high profile majors have been a disaster for UK co-ordination. The BBC supports them at every opportunity it can, fits its agenda of destroying old Britain.
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09/12/2020 11:05:00 19 47
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thatcher did that without anyones help
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09/12/2020 14:14:39 1 0
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People really need to start thinking...
What if, and I know this will rub a few (lot) up the wrong way, the Government was not cooperating? What if, they said, yes, you have all the responsibility, but I hold the funding, the legislation, and any strings which you need to enforce what you’re wanting to do? And by doing so, take no responsibility for the outcome of guaranteed failure?
Sets them up.
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jpm
09/12/2020 15:55:53 0 1
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Funny .... most Scots don't trust the British Broadcasting Corporation and see it as Britain's Pravda .... the local branch is known as BBC Scotlandshire
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09/12/2020 18:31:32 1 0
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Grow up
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09/12/2020 10:44:48 6 4
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westminster by tory mafia
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09/12/2020 11:01:10 0 0
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Another silly childish remark. There are too many on HYS, typical of the BBC!
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09/12/2020 11:40:23 1 0
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Right or left there are still far too many snouts in the trough!
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09/12/2020 11:02:21 47 14
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When do we get a vote on scrapping metropolitan mayors?
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09/12/2020 11:17:13 45 4
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And Police Commissioners they need to go as well!
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10/12/2020 12:37:05 0 0
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We had a referendum in Greater Manchester on whether we wanted a mayor.

We voted no.

We got one anyway.

Us plebz ar ded fick
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09/12/2020 11:00:27 63 23
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Devolved Government & high profile majors have been a disaster for UK co-ordination. The BBC supports them at every opportunity it can, fits its agenda of destroying old Britain.
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09/12/2020 11:05:00 19 47
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thatcher did that without anyones help
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09/12/2020 11:18:05 16 0
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Labour did that on every occasion it got into power.
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09/12/2020 16:08:32 8 1
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The forces of anarchy that she confronted would have destroyed us if she had not dealt with them. I remember it well.

Your comment is as bigoted as your username.
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09/12/2020 10:42:32 1 8
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you are run by westminster as england voted for them,tories will never give the north anything that resumes devolution or even a say now their safe with an 80 majority,you cannot have another scotland on your doorstep making their own laws to suit their people,north belongs to the south and will obey all johnsons rules and instructions,tells you something when 67% becomes 80% south rules you all
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09/12/2020 11:05:50 2 1
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Please tell us what system YOU would wish to put in place to run this Country? You are obviously full of hate for your Country and a Political system that has run for the past 500 years and endured fools like yourself. In China or Russia you get shot for criticising the Government. Surely that system MUST endure even your childish ranting!
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09/12/2020 10:45:58 19 13
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When will Labour apologise for devolution ?
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09/12/2020 11:06:04 6 9
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no way boris loves it and so do we scots,tory free come next may,huzzah
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09/12/2020 11:21:33 0 0
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More rubbish
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09/12/2020 15:37:10 0 0
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Maybe before you start leaping up and down bellowing for independance you should ask ... where does the money come from for defence , for a seperate fiscal system , to pay for a far bigger civil service not to mention border and customs officers and if the pandemic had happened after independance who would have bailed you out? Scotland cant afford to be independant
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09/12/2020 10:59:50 3 2
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The Union has only been the MOST successful amalgamation of kingdoms EVER in the world. It has lasted over 300 years and has made us all very well looked after, healthy and long living in the history of mankind and every adult over the age of 18 years gets 1 vote, majority wins that is DEMOCRACY. And you want to break it up??? Now can YOU think of another system that has endured longer?
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09/12/2020 11:07:56 1 0
bbc
signed by a couple of drunkards,oh yes its just a piece of paper after all easily ripped apart
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09/12/2020 10:41:07 12 10
bbc
These regional mayors are just another expensive, unnecessary layer of second rate politicians. Regardless of what political party they are from their only job seem to be forever coming up meaningless proclamations and projects.
Just how many layers do we need. Parish councils, district councils, unitary councils, regional mayors, devolved parliaments and Westminster. ‘Even fleas have fleas’
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09/12/2020 11:08:33 1 0
bbc
england has them all
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09/12/2020 11:08:44 11 11
bbc
The real issue is the current Tory government which is incompetent/corrupt.

The Tories were more concerned over the international development aid than UK children eating every day. Disgusting

Then we have the waste - HS2 which benefits the rich, through contracts to their donors/friends, and then usage by only those that can afford to use it.

People are just trying to get away from them.
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09/12/2020 11:11:42 3 4
bbc
None of that has anything to with the UK remaining a union or not.
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09/12/2020 11:16:26 3 1
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Just yet another childish rant.
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09/12/2020 11:20:09 2 1
bbc
What proof have you of this corruption and on comments made that have nothing to do with the Union? Let Scotland go if they want it but first cut off our money say that they have a dose of reality!
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09/12/2020 10:38:15 21 16
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PR for Parliament would be a good start.
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09/12/2020 11:10:51 4 4
bbc
Then nothing would get done, Look around and see the mess they are in with PR in place. Italy has a new Government every 9 months. Greece every 6 months and only the rich and gangsters get a say. Is that what you want??
I'm not saying our system is perfect BUT it does endure, it does keep us free and it does keep us fed and every one of us can become successful if we apply ourselves properly!
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09/12/2020 11:10:56 9 7
bbc
lets vote on if we need met mayors or not?
That would be interesting
Poor Andy, looking a little lost after his misplay and croc tears the other week
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09/12/2020 10:35:57 12 12
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Typical Tory policy.....divide and rule
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09/12/2020 11:11:12 0 0
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another stupid remark
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09/12/2020 11:08:44 11 11
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The real issue is the current Tory government which is incompetent/corrupt.

The Tories were more concerned over the international development aid than UK children eating every day. Disgusting

Then we have the waste - HS2 which benefits the rich, through contracts to their donors/friends, and then usage by only those that can afford to use it.

People are just trying to get away from them.
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09/12/2020 11:11:42 3 4
bbc
None of that has anything to with the UK remaining a union or not.
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09/12/2020 11:24:45 1 0
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Baloney - ask Scotland ;)
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09/12/2020 11:48:06 0 0
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The examples are one of many. Scotland are stuck with being governed by a corrupt and incompetent government. Vastly worse than Theresa May's etc.

56.4% of people do not want the Tory government, yet are forced to live under their deplorable behaviour and actions.

When Brexit in the New Year is shown to be the disaster everyone knows it will be, then this will consolidate their wish to leave.
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PS
09/12/2020 11:12:37 3 5
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This is what happens when you have devolution. Now we have politically motivated Mayors who want their own slice of devolution. I thought County Councils had that role or are we now proposing county lines with their own devolved government. Or is this all about the imminent Mayoral elections?
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MVS
09/12/2020 10:35:07 50 13
bbc
If Sadiq Khan is the answer to any problem then we are all doomed.
And why do the BBC London team never take him to task on anything. I watch London news every day and have not seen a single interview with him since March where his appalling management of the pandemic in London has been challenged.
Even this site has only positive articles about him and his policies.
Where is the balance?
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09/12/2020 11:12:45 44 16
bbc
What do you expect it is the Brussels Broadcasting Company driven by Political correctness and socialist ideals!
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MVS
09/12/2020 11:15:36 7 1
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I very naively expect it to adhere to its Royal Charter. Except that I no longer hold out any hope that it ever will.
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09/12/2020 11:12:55 19 15
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Don't think Boris is bothered - talks and behaves like an English nationalist.
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09/12/2020 12:57:53 7 0
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Seems that English nationalism bad, Scottish nationalism good eh!
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09/12/2020 16:14:54 0 0
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You talk like someone without understanding.
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09/12/2020 11:14:48 5 7
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Two soon to be ex Mayors, lets wait until we get two new less self-serving ones, then make proper decisions.
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09/12/2020 11:15:20 7 9
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'ACT NOW AND SAVE PRECIOUS UK'

What a great idea. Item No 1.
Sack all the elected Mayors.
Problem solved.
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09/12/2020 11:23:18 2 2
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Wind back devolution too if you want a true union. Talk of union is meaningless when 3 of the countries in "the union" have their own parliaments making decisions just for their part. We are either a United Kingdom or we're not - we can't be both united and seperate.
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09/12/2020 11:12:45 44 16
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What do you expect it is the Brussels Broadcasting Company driven by Political correctness and socialist ideals!
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MVS
09/12/2020 11:15:36 7 1
bbc
I very naively expect it to adhere to its Royal Charter. Except that I no longer hold out any hope that it ever will.
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09/12/2020 11:08:44 11 11
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The real issue is the current Tory government which is incompetent/corrupt.

The Tories were more concerned over the international development aid than UK children eating every day. Disgusting

Then we have the waste - HS2 which benefits the rich, through contracts to their donors/friends, and then usage by only those that can afford to use it.

People are just trying to get away from them.
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09/12/2020 11:16:26 3 1
bbc
Just yet another childish rant.
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09/12/2020 11:02:41 5 5
bbc
The party of division doing it's thing - what's new ?!
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09/12/2020 11:21:17 1 5
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I know its a shame that the Labour party is not what it was.
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09/12/2020 11:02:21 47 14
bbc
When do we get a vote on scrapping metropolitan mayors?
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09/12/2020 11:17:13 45 4
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And Police Commissioners they need to go as well!
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09/12/2020 11:25:04 1 0
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Everyone but doris.
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09/12/2020 11:59:10 2 2
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They were something that could had made a difference but only attracted those with mediocre talents and no vision.
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09/12/2020 11:05:00 19 47
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thatcher did that without anyones help
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09/12/2020 11:18:05 16 0
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Labour did that on every occasion it got into power.
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09/12/2020 15:40:39 1 8
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Yes, because in the main every time it gets elected it is to sort out a mess created by the Tories - the messes that are usually on such a scale that there is not time to resolve matters by the time of the next General Election. Imagine how high the dunghill will be when Tories eventually kicked out and which Labour will be expected to clear within 5 years. And so British politics stumbles on!
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09/12/2020 11:18:32 0 3
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Cue more (unintentional) knee jerk vacuousness courtesy of the HYS regulars.....................
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09/12/2020 10:47:01 4 8
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English independence, then regional assemblies (ancient Kingdoms, Northumbria, Mercia etc) with similar devolved powers as Wales.
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09/12/2020 11:19:13 4 0
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Just give us parity with Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland. A parliament for England.
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09/12/2020 11:08:44 11 11
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The real issue is the current Tory government which is incompetent/corrupt.

The Tories were more concerned over the international development aid than UK children eating every day. Disgusting

Then we have the waste - HS2 which benefits the rich, through contracts to their donors/friends, and then usage by only those that can afford to use it.

People are just trying to get away from them.
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09/12/2020 11:20:09 2 1
bbc
What proof have you of this corruption and on comments made that have nothing to do with the Union? Let Scotland go if they want it but first cut off our money say that they have a dose of reality!
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09/12/2020 11:20:55 3 4
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I do not think I have ever talked to anyone who sees the necessity of devolved powers. People I talk to are frustrated at the idea that each area sees itself in competition with Westminster - as Manchester very recently showed. We all know what has happened to Scotland since they got their Gov - absolute disaster.
Bring power BACK to Westminster!
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KRR
09/12/2020 11:34:36 1 1
bbc
'We all know what has happened to Scotland since they got their Gov - absolute disaster.'

I doubt you know the merest smidgin about anything to do with Scotland. The current Scottish Government has been in office since 2007 and polls suggest they'll be re-elected in 2021. Hardly a 'disaster', then.
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09/12/2020 10:47:01 4 8
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English independence, then regional assemblies (ancient Kingdoms, Northumbria, Mercia etc) with similar devolved powers as Wales.
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09/12/2020 11:21:04 0 0
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Then the fighting starts, we got over that 1000 years ago, we MUST stick together, be proud of our Country and forge ahead as we so often have done these past 500 years. Don't be fooled by the devolutionists, they are sooth sayers and will destroy all that we have done!!
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KRR
09/12/2020 11:21:07 12 9
bbc
The UK - if by that you mean Scotland being stuck with a Brexit and a crazed right-wing Government both of which it voted against - is not worth saving. A tolerant, culturally-diverse independent Scotland within the EU will be a good thing, and perhaps a beacon to bring England to its senses once the negatives of Brexit kick in.
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09/12/2020 13:14:18 2 1
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tolerant unless you happen to be English
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09/12/2020 11:02:41 5 5
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The party of division doing it's thing - what's new ?!
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09/12/2020 11:21:17 1 5
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I know its a shame that the Labour party is not what it was.
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09/12/2020 11:23:54 0 0
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Not worried who is in power so long as they are honest.
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09/12/2020 11:06:04 6 9
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no way boris loves it and so do we scots,tory free come next may,huzzah
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09/12/2020 11:21:33 0 0
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More rubbish
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09/12/2020 11:22:42 2 3
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"Act now to save 'precious UK'"

Hey, I've been saying it for years.
Save the Brits!
Save the Brits!
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MVS
09/12/2020 11:23:01 10 7
bbc
I don't agree with Andy Burnham or Dan Jarvis on lots of things, but I do admire them both for their approach to politics.
I don't agree with Sadiq Khan about anything and think his entirely divisive approach to politics stinks.
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09/12/2020 11:27:12 8 0
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I'd maybe admire Dan Jarvis more if he decided what he wanted to be and stick to it, rather than remaining an MP at the same time as being a Mayor. Do one or the other - both require full attention - neither are part time roles.
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09/12/2020 11:15:20 7 9
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'ACT NOW AND SAVE PRECIOUS UK'

What a great idea. Item No 1.
Sack all the elected Mayors.
Problem solved.
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09/12/2020 11:23:18 2 2
bbc
Wind back devolution too if you want a true union. Talk of union is meaningless when 3 of the countries in "the union" have their own parliaments making decisions just for their part. We are either a United Kingdom or we're not - we can't be both united and seperate.
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KRR
09/12/2020 12:02:28 0 0
bbc
So what you're saying is, 'take back control from those rebellious taffs and jocks - and let's force them to be more like us English!'

And you wonder why most Scots want independence! You're Bonzo's Mini-Me
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09/12/2020 11:24:04 4 7
bbc
The pandemic has revealed everything that is wrong with this country.

The devolution of power to the feudal entities of Scotland and Wales has only served bitter separatism not better government.

The over-centralisation of power in Westminster has diminished all local communities who are kept bereft of funds and the necessary authority to make things work ensuring we all remain beggars.
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KRR
09/12/2020 11:27:19 2 1
bbc
'Feudal entities'? I think you'll have to unpack that a little, old chap.
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09/12/2020 10:49:06 13 7
bbc
Devolution was a New Labour policy
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09/12/2020 11:05:28 1 0
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So your cons will oppose it I guess ;)

Like Iraq and gambling.
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09/12/2020 11:25:43 3 4
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Labour - totally irrelevant - they can't even control their own party - no influence in Scotland - and trying to stir up division where they can - nothing has changed - non electable - testament as per the last general election - when the we have the biggest party in Europe brigade were thrashed in the election when it was very evident ultra left wing policies don't wash with the general public.
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09/12/2020 11:32:03 1 1
bbc
Insightful ??
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MVS
09/12/2020 11:23:01 10 7
bbc
I don't agree with Andy Burnham or Dan Jarvis on lots of things, but I do admire them both for their approach to politics.
I don't agree with Sadiq Khan about anything and think his entirely divisive approach to politics stinks.
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09/12/2020 11:27:12 8 0
bbc
I'd maybe admire Dan Jarvis more if he decided what he wanted to be and stick to it, rather than remaining an MP at the same time as being a Mayor. Do one or the other - both require full attention - neither are part time roles.
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09/12/2020 11:27:16 2 2
bbc
The late Brian Walden said the northern English have more in common with lowlands Scots than with the south of England. Apart from Brexit, I think there is truth in that. Btw, people sometimes forget Gove, Brown & Darling are proud Scots & you could hardly have a more famous Scottish name than Cameron.
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09/12/2020 11:41:28 2 0
bbc
Only half true, we don't have much in common with either these days, certainly since SNP took control of Scotland
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09/12/2020 11:33:26 0 0
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Which proves the line 'what's in a name' ?
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09/12/2020 11:27:18 51 7
bbc
The very existence of devolution shows of course that our crazy electoral system doesn't work anymore in the 21st century. Aren't MPs supposed to represent their constituency in Westminster? Then, why need devolution at all?

Of course, in practice MPs only represent a political party, and are even forced by a party whip to vote with their leadership. The regions have no representation in London.
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09/12/2020 11:59:53 49 10
bbc
One can't help but think that the desire of regional mayors like Burnham is driven as much by the pursuit of power as the logic of electoral reform.
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09/12/2020 14:12:24 3 1
bbc
You can lay the blame fairly and squarely on devolution on Tony Blair's attempt to buy votes and he failed miserably in that cause
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09/12/2020 11:24:04 4 7
bbc
The pandemic has revealed everything that is wrong with this country.

The devolution of power to the feudal entities of Scotland and Wales has only served bitter separatism not better government.

The over-centralisation of power in Westminster has diminished all local communities who are kept bereft of funds and the necessary authority to make things work ensuring we all remain beggars.
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KRR
09/12/2020 11:27:19 2 1
bbc
'Feudal entities'? I think you'll have to unpack that a little, old chap.
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09/12/2020 11:33:06 0 2
bbc
The boundaries of Wales and Scotland were set in feudal times. They have no contemporary relevance. Is that unpacked enough for you?
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09/12/2020 10:47:27 88 35
bbc
Metropolitan Mayors are a waste of space. Get rid of them.
Keith is a waste of space too. Removed
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09/12/2020 12:20:43 4 4
bbc
Why?
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09/12/2020 11:31:33 5 10
bbc
They're all just a bunch of left wing trouble makers.

Start talking the UK up, you are all the problem just playing politics. Do your job and shut up
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09/12/2020 11:36:26 0 1
bbc
To be fair, they are doing their job - they are Mayor of a particular area, so their job is to represent that area and fight for it to the best of their ability. That's why I believe that Mayors are extremely divisive and go against the notion of a union. Their job is to look after their patch, rather than the UK as a whole.
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KRR
09/12/2020 11:38:56 1 1
bbc
'They're all just a bunch of left wing trouble makers.'

Gordon Brown? Left wing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

{realises this probably just indicates how screamingly right-wing the poster and his HYS Brexiteer pals are and tumbles into depression}
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09/12/2020 11:34:14 0 0
bbc
They are the majority - are you Sure they are leftwing ?
??
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KRR
09/12/2020 11:27:19 2 1
bbc
'Feudal entities'? I think you'll have to unpack that a little, old chap.
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09/12/2020 11:33:06 0 2
bbc
The boundaries of Wales and Scotland were set in feudal times. They have no contemporary relevance. Is that unpacked enough for you?
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KRR
09/12/2020 11:43:24 2 0
bbc
No relevance because of when they were set (not entirely true anyway - research 'Debatable Lands' and 'Berwick on Tweed')? It doesn't follow.

We have different systems of law, local government, primary, secondary, further and higher education, a different national church, different national institutions (library, galleries, museums). The focus on 'borders' means you're probably a Brexiteer...
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09/12/2020 11:20:55 3 4
bbc
I do not think I have ever talked to anyone who sees the necessity of devolved powers. People I talk to are frustrated at the idea that each area sees itself in competition with Westminster - as Manchester very recently showed. We all know what has happened to Scotland since they got their Gov - absolute disaster.
Bring power BACK to Westminster!
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KRR
09/12/2020 11:34:36 1 1
bbc
'We all know what has happened to Scotland since they got their Gov - absolute disaster.'

I doubt you know the merest smidgin about anything to do with Scotland. The current Scottish Government has been in office since 2007 and polls suggest they'll be re-elected in 2021. Hardly a 'disaster', then.
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09/12/2020 11:34:58 4 7
bbc
Time is running out for Kahn and Burnham!!! Their attitudes have only made things worse for their cities!
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09/12/2020 11:38:27 3 3
bbc
And what have these two berks got in common...... Labour, they're as pointless and irrelevant as the Westminster party and they know it.

They're poisonous avoid them like cv-19
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09/12/2020 11:37:54 0 0
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You tell em dave.
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09/12/2020 11:35:20 8 5
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t we already have a People’s Assembly?
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09/12/2020 11:35:52 4 6
bbc
On the pic from the link page "All Mancs want..."

Yeah, and all the rest of the country all we want is the selfish greedy Mancs to abide by the rules instead of street-parties and gatherings, and to accept they are not a "special case" that are somehow more deserving than anywhere else in the country, but to get Burnham to take accountability instead of whining, thinking it is a Union negotiation
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09/12/2020 11:37:32 0 2
bbc
Wrong!
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09/12/2020 11:35:52 28 16
bbc
The question was whether BoJo could keep Scotland in the UK.

He's doing such a bad job that everyone is assuming Scotland will leave, and we're wondering if he can even keep Manchester in the UK...
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09/12/2020 11:39:29 19 7
bbc
BoJo won't cause Scotand to leave the UK - if they do. Devolution and the rise of the SNP have had a far geater effect on the call for Scottish independence than BoJo ever could.
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09/12/2020 12:13:37 2 4
bbc
Get rid of them...they dont want us, and we pay for them. Good deal
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09/12/2020 12:47:47 2 1
bbc
Free Manchester
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09/12/2020 14:41:42 0 0
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Do we really want either of them, they just take take
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09/12/2020 16:11:33 0 0
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No, it goes much deeper and further back than that.
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10/12/2020 09:22:44 0 0
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He is doing an excellent job and the Scots should be grateful that he is not allowing NS to get her hands on more.
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10/12/2020 10:43:26 0 0
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But Manchester could leave... We could build a fifty foot wall al round the place... Then fill-in from the top.
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09/12/2020 11:31:33 5 10
bbc
They're all just a bunch of left wing trouble makers.

Start talking the UK up, you are all the problem just playing politics. Do your job and shut up
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09/12/2020 11:36:26 0 1
bbc
To be fair, they are doing their job - they are Mayor of a particular area, so their job is to represent that area and fight for it to the best of their ability. That's why I believe that Mayors are extremely divisive and go against the notion of a union. Their job is to look after their patch, rather than the UK as a whole.
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09/12/2020 11:22:46 5 3
bbc
I don't think the conservatives are worried.
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09/12/2020 11:21:17 1 5
bbc
I know its a shame that the Labour party is not what it was.
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09/12/2020 11:23:54 0 0
bbc
Not worried who is in power so long as they are honest.
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09/12/2020 11:11:42 3 4
bbc
None of that has anything to with the UK remaining a union or not.
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09/12/2020 11:24:45 1 0
bbc
Baloney - ask Scotland ;)
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09/12/2020 11:47:27 0 0
bbc
I seem to think that Scotland have been voting SNP in ever larger numbers since devolution in the 90s - way before BoJO and his government came to power. I also seem to think that the SNP stated aim is independence for Scotland, and has been for decades.

Please tell me if either of those is incorrect.
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09/12/2020 11:37:19 4 6
bbc
I agree with headline if not the article - all we need to do is remove all Metro mayors and break these large "metros" up into what they used to be. That's definitely the way to save "precious UK".
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09/12/2020 11:17:13 45 4
bbc
And Police Commissioners they need to go as well!
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09/12/2020 11:25:04 1 0
bbc
Everyone but doris.
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09/12/2020 10:46:52 4 3
bbc
English money ...
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09/12/2020 11:26:19 0 0
bbc
No, convince.
Not bribe.

;)
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09/12/2020 11:26:49 12 3
bbc
How's the English unity this morning ?
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09/12/2020 12:50:44 1 8
bbc
Same as it's always been.......nonexistent
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09/12/2020 16:12:24 0 0
bbc
And where do you live, which is presumably so much better?
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09/12/2020 11:34:58 4 7
bbc
Time is running out for Kahn and Burnham!!! Their attitudes have only made things worse for their cities!
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09/12/2020 11:38:27 3 3
bbc
And what have these two berks got in common...... Labour, they're as pointless and irrelevant as the Westminster party and they know it.

They're poisonous avoid them like cv-19
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09/12/2020 11:40:33 0 2
bbc
morning toxic.
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09/12/2020 11:31:33 5 10
bbc
They're all just a bunch of left wing trouble makers.

Start talking the UK up, you are all the problem just playing politics. Do your job and shut up
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KRR
09/12/2020 11:38:56 1 1
bbc
'They're all just a bunch of left wing trouble makers.'

Gordon Brown? Left wing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

{realises this probably just indicates how screamingly right-wing the poster and his HYS Brexiteer pals are and tumbles into depression}
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09/12/2020 11:35:52 28 16
bbc
The question was whether BoJo could keep Scotland in the UK.

He's doing such a bad job that everyone is assuming Scotland will leave, and we're wondering if he can even keep Manchester in the UK...
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09/12/2020 11:39:29 19 7
bbc
BoJo won't cause Scotand to leave the UK - if they do. Devolution and the rise of the SNP have had a far geater effect on the call for Scottish independence than BoJo ever could.
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KRR
09/12/2020 11:57:19 6 4
bbc
'Devolution and the rise of the SNP have had a far geater effect on the call for Scottish independence than BoJo ever could.'

Cart before horse, laddie.

We got devolution because we voted for it. The SNP have risen because people voted for them.

Most Scots now want independence, for many reasons. Brexit is one and Bonzo helps even less. His negative rating in Scotland is nearly off the scale.
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09/12/2020 11:59:26 4 2
bbc
You must admit Bojo and Thatcher have helped .
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09/12/2020 12:52:04 3 0
bbc
Johnson will be gone in four years. These days, individual political careers are increasingly short-lived. Scottish Independence from UK would be permanent. If the Scottish people choose that path then fair play to them - but to make such a momentous decision based on hatred of the current PM and/or fondness for the current FM would be short sighted in the extreme.
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09/12/2020 16:24:55 0 1
bbc
Scotland will vote in another SNP administration in May it will have an overwhelming majority and will apply for a referendum BoJo will say no and the SNP will use UN policy to get the right to hold it,because the GB government signed up to support the right of indigenous populations to decide their own future. BoJo is not disliked in Scotland he is hated. Save your money give us independence
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10/12/2020 10:46:01 0 0
bbc
Scottish independence does start to look attractive though when you think it'll banjax any chance of Labour winning a GE.
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09/12/2020 11:39:43 13 12
bbc
Nevr seen such a proudly corrupt English gov.
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09/12/2020 11:31:08 3 2
bbc
I think the rightwing need less deflection and more action on behalf of all the UK ;)
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09/12/2020 11:01:10 0 0
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Another silly childish remark. There are too many on HYS, typical of the BBC!
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09/12/2020 11:40:23 1 0
bbc
Right or left there are still far too many snouts in the trough!
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09/12/2020 11:25:43 3 4
bbc
Labour - totally irrelevant - they can't even control their own party - no influence in Scotland - and trying to stir up division where they can - nothing has changed - non electable - testament as per the last general election - when the we have the biggest party in Europe brigade were thrashed in the election when it was very evident ultra left wing policies don't wash with the general public.
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09/12/2020 11:32:03 1 1
bbc
Insightful ??
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09/12/2020 11:38:27 3 3
bbc
And what have these two berks got in common...... Labour, they're as pointless and irrelevant as the Westminster party and they know it.

They're poisonous avoid them like cv-19
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09/12/2020 11:40:33 0 2
bbc
morning toxic.
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09/12/2020 11:53:11 0 0
bbc
Morning dipstick
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09/12/2020 11:40:46 21 5
bbc
Removing Sadie Khan't would help!
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09/12/2020 11:27:16 2 2
bbc
The late Brian Walden said the northern English have more in common with lowlands Scots than with the south of England. Apart from Brexit, I think there is truth in that. Btw, people sometimes forget Gove, Brown & Darling are proud Scots & you could hardly have a more famous Scottish name than Cameron.
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09/12/2020 11:41:28 2 0
bbc
Only half true, we don't have much in common with either these days, certainly since SNP took control of Scotland
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09/12/2020 11:27:16 2 2
bbc
The late Brian Walden said the northern English have more in common with lowlands Scots than with the south of England. Apart from Brexit, I think there is truth in that. Btw, people sometimes forget Gove, Brown & Darling are proud Scots & you could hardly have a more famous Scottish name than Cameron.
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09/12/2020 11:33:26 0 0
bbc
Which proves the line 'what's in a name' ?
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09/12/2020 11:31:33 5 10
bbc
They're all just a bunch of left wing trouble makers.

Start talking the UK up, you are all the problem just playing politics. Do your job and shut up
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09/12/2020 11:34:14 0 0
bbc
They are the majority - are you Sure they are leftwing ?
??
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09/12/2020 11:34:38 4 3
bbc
Clap for the conservatives.
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09/12/2020 12:18:43 1 0
bbc
I wouldn’t wish an STD on anyone.
I thought the Mayor of Liverpool had been arrested for corruption?! Removed
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09/12/2020 11:33:06 0 2
bbc
The boundaries of Wales and Scotland were set in feudal times. They have no contemporary relevance. Is that unpacked enough for you?
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KRR
09/12/2020 11:43:24 2 0
bbc
No relevance because of when they were set (not entirely true anyway - research 'Debatable Lands' and 'Berwick on Tweed')? It doesn't follow.

We have different systems of law, local government, primary, secondary, further and higher education, a different national church, different national institutions (library, galleries, museums). The focus on 'borders' means you're probably a Brexiteer...
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09/12/2020 11:56:29 0 1
bbc
My focus on borders is because I come from Border stock. Borders have their own economy not national ones. Your focus on government, law and churches suggests to me you are one of those Enlightened Improvers who expropriates their living through state fiat rather than do any real work.
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09/12/2020 11:24:45 1 0
bbc
Baloney - ask Scotland ;)
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09/12/2020 11:47:27 0 0
bbc
I seem to think that Scotland have been voting SNP in ever larger numbers since devolution in the 90s - way before BoJO and his government came to power. I also seem to think that the SNP stated aim is independence for Scotland, and has been for decades.

Please tell me if either of those is incorrect.
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09/12/2020 11:35:54 2 2
bbc
They're all just a bunch of right wing trouble makers.

Start talking bs, you are all the problem just playing politics. Do your job and shut up.
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09/12/2020 12:26:47 0 0
bbc
Burnham and Khan are right wing? Really?