Honda pauses production after UK port woes
08/12/2020 | news | business | 1,304
The Japanese carmaker temporarily stops production at its Swindon plant after UK ports congestion.
“Billionaire Sir Jim Ratcliffe, a Leave campaigner in the run-up to the 2016 Brexit referendum, has confirmed a new 4x4 car will be built in France”

- this just typifies the deceit of Brexit supporters and utter contempt they have for this country.
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08/12/2020 19:14:27 28 55
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Neither Brexit nor your 'quote' are mentioned in the article to which you've commented, therefore would hope the BBC remove your off-topic comment shortly, in accordance with their rules.
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08/12/2020 19:52:51 0 0
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Cars will soon be illegal so why build 4X4's ?
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08/12/2020 20:02:30 1 1
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Your comment is nothing to do with this article but although it’s a shame that car will be built in France, this type of decision has been made repeatedly over the last 10 years when we were IN the EU, such that the trade deficit is now 5 times bigger than it was in 2010. Leaving is our only chance.
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08/12/2020 20:15:06 0 0
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Regardless of your own position, some folk will be incredibly better off, some won't. I would hazard a guess that the majority of HYS's will be worse off.
Which just goes to show the utter contempt 'Mr Ratcliffe' type people have for their country and it's population. They have one interest. Themselves.
Brexit doesn't come into it.
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08/12/2020 18:54:33 422 86
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Chaos looming ahead - all predictable but still Leavers want to take back control.

Control of what exactly?
Take back control of the country i.e. Borders, Immigration, UK Judicial System and Laws, Restrict the Movement of European criminals for a start. Removed
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08/12/2020 19:09:15 110 12
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We had all those things when we were members of the EU. You fell for the lie that we didn't have control.
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08/12/2020 20:12:11 64 2
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But now we won't which Europeans are criminals and which aren't as we won't have access to the Europol databases any more.
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08/12/2020 20:14:33 76 5
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Except, we won’t know who the European criminals are because we will no longer have access to the shared Schengen intelligence systems. If anything we will have less control over who is crossing the border than we do now.
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08/12/2020 20:37:41 51 3
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Since we'll now not have access to SIS2 & the European Arrest Warrant I suspect most of the 'European criminals' will head our way - just as our criminals headed for Spain before we signed an extradition treaty with Spain in 1985. Police estimate that around 100 billion pounds of dirty money is moved through or into Britain each year. [Reuters report]
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08/12/2020 21:05:01 29 3
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that could have been done within the EU so what will be the excuse from the government when your points are not addressed
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08/12/2020 21:15:01 11 0
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Ah its so good to know that after we restrict the movement of European criminals crime will disappear in this country.
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08/12/2020 21:46:55 17 0
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LOL thats so funny. The UK over the years failed to inform the EU countries of 70,000 criminals who were released after completing their sentences and then tried to cover the fact up. The UK will never be able to stop illegal entry into the UK. The UK helped write lots of laws and legislation currently in use in the EU. £215bn paid to EU over 47years Brexit costs as of last January £205bn.
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08/12/2020 21:47:23 18 0
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You mean, "Control of the things we already had control of."
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08/12/2020 21:50:18 16 0
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We always had control of those, it was just an easy excuse by inept politicians (of more than 1 party) "ah, but EU rules...."
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08/12/2020 21:50:20 11 0
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Criminals are going to have a field day now the EU is no longer going to share the database of known crooks' names.
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08/12/2020 22:01:36 3 0
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Yea, its sovereignty innit.
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08/12/2020 22:06:46 4 0
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We have all of that already, numpty. Have had for years, it's just our inept, tightfisted government has chosen not to put the proper resources into enforcing those rights, preferring just to let the lying tory press blame it on the EU instead, and you all fell for it. Guess what's even better? We are still subject to the judgements of the ECHR because that's got nothing to do with the EU.
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08/12/2020 22:13:49 3 0
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You're not in "control" of anything - unless you believe hair product ads (and you probably do....)
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08/12/2020 22:16:32 4 0
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Everything in life is a compromise and being part of EU had more good points than bad points. Losing their jobs, businesses and homes will only serve the leavers right; shame it will also affect the broad minded people who saw past the few disadvantages of EU.
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08/12/2020 22:16:02 4 0
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Does restricting the movement of European criminals include British criminals too?
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08/12/2020 22:24:59 4 1
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And we're going to do that by having an open border in Ireland and not being connected to the European police interpol etc. systems to track the movements of European criminals?
Oh, and we might want to actually employ a few customs officers seeing as there are hardly any left - or are the Tories going to farm those jobs out to Group 4 and the like too?
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08/12/2020 22:28:49 5 0
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Some people will never learn. Brexit has cost the UK BILLIONS, unemployment is up, banking has fled the City to cause an office building frenzy in Frankfurt but hey, trot out the same rubbish that people fell for by the people making millions from.
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08/12/2020 22:56:30 2 0
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People who voted for the criminals running our country need to take back control of their thought processes rather than leave it to the express/mail/sun etc
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08/12/2020 23:08:10 2 0
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We've got enough home grown criminals....the traditional ones and the business ones.
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08/12/2020 23:21:48 3 0
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The take back control thing was UTTER BS, had they actually taken back control of the borders then there's a chance we wouldn't have had such a bad year regarding covid.

You fell for the leave campaign BS and you can't admit it, like many others too dim to see through the lies.
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09/12/2020 00:19:30 0 0
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And weighed against our losses..?
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09/12/2020 00:49:41 0 0
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So currently the UK does exactly how many of those things??????
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09/12/2020 01:00:44 2 1
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Taken back control since January 2020: can't close borders to stop covid on an F ing ISLAND, breaking international law, having unelected Cummings run the country, enough criminals in the UK that we can't control. Ah immigration "stop foreigners taking our job" low skilled British dont want to work nor will they in the fields or on the streets! Maybe get an education and do better.
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09/12/2020 01:35:02 4 0
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We could stop EU criminals if we wanted or return them to their own country if they did not have a job in three months. We were part of the free movement of labour, not of people and that is Shengen, it is our government allowing it they were not forced to. We always had control of our judicial system, the EU had nothing to do with that.
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09/12/2020 05:44:51 0 0
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"Restrict the Movement of European criminals for a start"
no you wont! pulling out of EU policing mechanisms will let you do nothing to European criminals, they can just turn in at at the borders, and gain entry, UK border force won't know a think about their past! Being in the EU could and did
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09/12/2020 05:45:07 1 0
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We never had to accept any criminals. Note how the Costa del crime has been able to extradite our criminals back to us.
We could always have restricted immigration from EU to people who could support themselves financially.
On the plus side, we received a willing and great young workforce who have been the beating heart of our care homes and hospitals. What a loss.
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09/12/2020 06:46:34 0 0
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I suspect more of our criminals go to Europe than the other way around.

Not to mention that we can't control our borders, regardless of rules, because we lack the resources to do it.

Most laws blamed on Europe were in the UK application of them, not the original laws.

There are exceptions, but the UK created more problems for itself than Europe did. In that sense, Brexit is more of the same.
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09/12/2020 07:26:39 0 0
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We have all of those things! We just chose not to use half of them!
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09/12/2020 07:38:53 0 0
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All those things we already had control of?

If anything, we're going to have rather less control. In the EU we had a say in those laws being made, in fact we were instrumental in many of them. Out of the EU, we want to trade with them (which we do, desperately), we'll simply be rule takers.

'taking back control' was just another meaningless slogan.
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08/12/2020 19:09:36 22 20
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Could, potentially cause a parts shortage if things that might happen potentially lead to production not being as high as it might have been if UK had stayed in EU.

What a load of tosh.

How about poor logistics planning and lack of reillience in just in time system fails to anticipate increased demand resulting in unnecessary production impacts.

Bye bye supply chain director.
It's no longer Just In Time if you have to have large reserves of stock on-hand. I mean, the clue is literally in the name!

I love how Brexiters always think they know or can do better - then make a massive faux pas any idiot wouldn't have made. Hubris.
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08/12/2020 20:01:29 4 1
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And that's why there's a backlog at the ports because.....?
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08/12/2020 18:59:36 655 189
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Ahhhhhh good 'ol Project Fear - coming true once again Brexiteers.

Am sure all those in the North voting leave knew this right? Explained in detail for the leave vote and not just lying to them all?

Manufacturing companies running for Europe, overseas investment in UK falling off a cliff. Tesla in Europe, Nissan and Honda leaving for Europe. Just the start - but hey you won eh! Congrats.
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You know Brexit hasn't been mentioned anywhere in this article?

An article written on the BBC News website often labeled as an anti-brexit haven.

Don't let the truth get in the way though!

Perhaps you can also post your incorrect anti-brexit propaganda on one of the many actual Brexit HYS's also running on here?

Just a thought...
Head in the sand. Just pretend it’s not happening as you caused this utter $hit show so man up and face the fact you’ve taken this nation from a major influence in the worlds largest trading block to an isolated island full of 17 m + racists . Removed
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08/12/2020 21:08:38 13 30
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Wow.

Firstly apologies for missing the line (I have apologised earlier in a couple of different strands above).

Secondly thank God not all remainers are like you.

It is your head firmly sand-based with majority voting leave & Tories getting a large majority last year.

You can't even have a civil conversation with someone who doesn't agree with you.

Brexiteers aren't racist. You are appalling.
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08/12/2020 20:19:53 7 11
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Whilst we have been in the EU most manufacturing jobs have gone already over the last 47 years.
Don't blame the EU for Thatcherism combined with unionism .
These two "ism's" are the schisms that the UK manufacturing industry crashed into and collapsed as a result.
Lazy union members and nutcase PM.
The car plant near me used to go on strike for such issues like an extra 10 minute T-break FFS ! an 8 hour day 1 hour lunch 2x30 minute breaks and the lazy barstewards wanted inbetweenies !
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You know Brexit hasn't been mentioned anywhere in this article?

An article written on the BBC News website often labeled as an anti-brexit haven.

Don't let the truth get in the way though!

Perhaps you can also post your incorrect anti-brexit propaganda on one of the many actual Brexit HYS's also running on here?

Just a thought...
"Don't let the truth get in the way though!"

Why should we? You brextwits never have...
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Right bunch of whingers these jap car makers, isn’t it. Moanmoanmoan Removed
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08/12/2020 22:21:50 2 1
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Unlike you, they know what they're doing and are not prepared to try and compete in world markets with both hands tied behind their back.
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You know Brexit hasn't been mentioned anywhere in this article?

An article written on the BBC News website often labeled as an anti-brexit haven.

Don't let the truth get in the way though!

Perhaps you can also post your incorrect anti-brexit propaganda on one of the many actual Brexit HYS's also running on here?

Just a thought...
Yes it has you moron. Try reading it.... Removed
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I did and it’s without doubt worth it to escape the moribund eu
Can we divide the food banks in Supermarkets ,Pro and anti Brexit ,could not give a damn if the pro Brexit starve ,such selfish people ,still might leave some dog food !! Removed
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08/12/2020 23:55:19 2 1
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The very poor tend not to vote..... the culprits are amongst the more comfortably off, who can afford to indulge their nativist prejudices...
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Can we divide the food banks in Supermarkets ,Pro and anti Brexit ,could not give a damn if the pro Brexit starve ,such selfish people ,still might leave some dog food !! Removed
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08/12/2020 18:49:31 424 23
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The grenadire 4x4 has gone from Wales to France this afternoon. That’s ineos, British owned, for you
clearly you know nothing about Ineos otherwise you would know while british owned its owner so hates the uk he lives in Monaco "James Arthur Ratcliffe" and not using the honorific he does not deserve it as all he does is rape the uk for his personal fortune and tax avoid by living in monaco Removed
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09/12/2020 06:58:34 5 4
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You wanted Brexsh*t, you got brexsh*t
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09/12/2020 07:34:05 5 4
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Poor organisation from Honda, they already said years ago they were pulling out of the UK, so cheerio to bad rubbish
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09/12/2020 07:32:17 4 3
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I voted to stay in the EU but we need to honour the vote and leave. Let’s be honest this is a story of a company failing to address the port situation caused by COVID, Christmas and the possibility of a no deal. These companies work on “just in time” methods, which means parts arrive a day or so before they are needed. They have had plenty of time to organise additional storage and purchase parts
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My friend is in the haulage business in the Midlands and says the Port of Liverpool has started to handle more container (EUROPEAN) TEU from Rotterdam & Antwerp even though its the other side of the country
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All the idiot remainers at it again, read the story again, nothing to do with Brexit at all, it's to do with companies bringing in extra stockpiling goods causing gridlock at 'CONTAINER' ports due to not enough space to store containers, you lot really are pathetic. Removed
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art-c, why do you think companies are stockpiling extra goods?
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Companies stockpiling goods, due to:
a) ending of the full lockdown
b) in advance of the end of the transition period.
Remainers might be wrong to try and claim the problem is fully due to Brexit, but you claim it is not "at all", quite clearly that is utterly wrong as well.
Not having enough space at ports to store containers is a symptom, not a cause.
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it shows that JIT supply is likely not to work after brexit driving up storage costs with those being passed on to the consumer (another benefit of the brexit turd)
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