Honda pauses production after UK port woes
08/12/2020 | news | business | 1,304
The Japanese carmaker temporarily stops production at its Swindon plant after UK ports congestion.
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08/12/2020 18:45:21 201 28
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Tell Boris to sort it out. Oven ready or something
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08/12/2020 18:54:53 216 23
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Boris can't even sort out his hair every morning
09/12/2020 08:23:33 0 0
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Half baked actually ;-)
09/12/2020 09:05:03 0 0
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It doesn't matter how pretty and well packaged an oven ready meal is, you are always left disappointed when it comes to the eating!!! But hey it was a top deal that Boris negotiated, sold to the ERG, the Tory massive & the electorate and he won the election on the back of it; but now he wants to toss it out!!!
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08/12/2020 18:45:25 2 9
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As sure suppliers on the continent will want their goods to market asap...so they get paid
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08/12/2020 18:46:41 26 10
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Project Fear is Project Near Leave voters.
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LG
08/12/2020 18:46:43 45 5
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Thought Honda were already leaving?
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08/12/2020 18:54:25 41 5
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Yes they are, but not for a year or two.
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09/12/2020 01:29:25 3 5
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But if we had remained in the EU they wouldn't have decided to leave, saving thousands of jobs
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08/12/2020 18:47:02 246 55
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Project reality. Motor parts, medicines, foods...if you are still supporting the chaos then you are the problem with this country. Time for the softest of brino and send the swivel eyed packing
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DG
08/12/2020 18:53:42 50 206
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You are wrong, companies that operate smart aquisition/supply will survive.
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08/12/2020 19:53:48 1 27
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At least I’m working for living, not expecting other people to pay for your lifestyle
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09/12/2020 04:56:33 1 3
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While I get where you are coming from Jude, this particular problem is down to the impact of COVID on global shipping. Ships and empty containers are in the wrong place a demand for imports is rising steeply.
09/12/2020 09:03:06 0 0
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Youre very short sighted. Maybe the first year you might not have your hummus but you will still have foods, medicine etc. Yeah from the EU price may rise but when the last 10yrs has been declined trade, unfair terms for farmers, small car parts suppliers dying and increasing trade with ROW who appreciate our British knowledge and expertise and food standards. I like the direction we're going
“Billionaire Sir Jim Ratcliffe, a Leave campaigner in the run-up to the 2016 Brexit referendum, has confirmed a new 4x4 car will be built in France”

- this just typifies the deceit of Brexit supporters and utter contempt they have for this country.
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08/12/2020 19:14:27 28 55
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Neither Brexit nor your 'quote' are mentioned in the article to which you've commented, therefore would hope the BBC remove your off-topic comment shortly, in accordance with their rules.
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08/12/2020 19:52:51 0 0
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Cars will soon be illegal so why build 4X4's ?
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bob
08/12/2020 20:02:30 1 1
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Your comment is nothing to do with this article but although it’s a shame that car will be built in France, this type of decision has been made repeatedly over the last 10 years when we were IN the EU, such that the trade deficit is now 5 times bigger than it was in 2010. Leaving is our only chance.
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08/12/2020 20:15:06 0 0
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Regardless of your own position, some folk will be incredibly better off, some won't. I would hazard a guess that the majority of HYS's will be worse off.
Which just goes to show the utter contempt 'Mr Ratcliffe' type people have for their country and it's population. They have one interest. Themselves.
Brexit doesn't come into it.
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08/12/2020 18:48:46 462 89
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If it's this bad now, just imagine what it'll be like in the case of a no deal Brexit. Oh well - at least everyone knew what they were voting for...
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08/12/2020 19:52:20 153 502
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I did and it’s without doubt worth it to escape the moribund eu
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08/12/2020 20:18:32 61 1
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This is just the tip of the iceberg the will punish us in anyway possible. All you Brexit voters still have not got it we will still have to pay and through the nose I might add to trade with the EU. Import duties will be passed on to us consumers so a lose lose situation all round. This is fully on your shoulders for dropping us all in the mire!
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09/12/2020 00:16:25 2 0
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It's alright...Boris has an "Oven Ready Deal".
Oh.
Wait.
I think he left it in the oven for too long so no-one can decifer what it's meant to be. I think it's been in there for 2 months longer than it should have been
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09/12/2020 06:16:03 0 1
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It must be sad living a life full of negativity.
09/12/2020 08:09:57 1 0
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No deal means we can tariff the masses of imports and stop some of them, good. Then we can manufacture stuff here instead. Honda for example could have avoided their supply chain problem (global shipping issues) by buying components locally. We must be able to make our own stuff.
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08/12/2020 18:49:31 424 23
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The grenadire 4x4 has gone from Wales to France this afternoon. That’s ineos, British owned, for you
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08/12/2020 19:48:27 392 11
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I think it's called "doing a Dyson"
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08/12/2020 20:03:21 28 14
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Don’t think there will be much sympathy when the French Grenadier workers go on strike for the umpteenth time! Big Jim won’t appear so ‘big’ up against the French unions as he was with Grangemouth. That cheap French Merc factory is cheap for a reason!
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08/12/2020 20:23:17 80 3
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So when does the great patriot RATcliffe - major pro-Brexit voice, newly resident in Monaco to save paying £4billion tax per year- get the news that his knighthood has been withdrawn?
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08/12/2020 20:39:01 61 1
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Is that the Ratcliffes deserting the sinking ship ?
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08/12/2020 20:49:23 63 0
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No one can accuse Jim Ratcliffe of not taking the Leave campaign seriously...
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08/12/2020 20:53:26 52 3
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You mean Brexit is best when viewed from a distance?
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08/12/2020 21:02:38 37 3
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Has it anything to do with Brexit and the Oven Ready Deal Crew?
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08/12/2020 21:36:21 8 28
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And the Ford engine plant closed.

You know. The engines with loads of moving engineered parts , shipped around the globe which are going to be totally defunct in 15/20 years.
Do you want a vhs tape factory to re open?
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08/12/2020 22:00:13 36 4
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Well what do you expect from ‘Mr. Fracking’ who put serious money into the Leave campaign, all to avoid coming under EU’s new tax haven rules. He doesn’t give a stuff about the UK, just wants to build his crappy vanity 4x4 car wherever he thinks it can make the most money. Problem is, no one is going to buy a dirty diesel.
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08/12/2020 22:11:52 6 6
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toodle pip off to the land of plenty
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08/12/2020 22:21:29 8 1
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Shame for Bridgend, but I have just seen what this Grenadier looks like?! Sorry Sir Jim, but I don't think you'll sell many!
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08/12/2020 23:03:04 6 4
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British owned? How? It is a private company, with operations all round the world, and two thirds of the shares belong to someone who is not a UK resident.
At least Jim Ratcliffe created this huge business from scratch. He didn't inherit it, he wasn't a privileged City type, he's a real engineer doing real things instead of just whizzing other people's money around.
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PCS
08/12/2020 23:04:11 5 3
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Just wait and see how many Brexiteers tw?ts buy them!
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08/12/2020 23:09:32 4 0
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Everyone needs a 4x4 for the school run.
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08/12/2020 23:44:51 4 0
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Normally someone wanting to make a car based on a 60 year old concept chooses somewhere low-wage to make it.... this thing is just a Land Rover in drag....
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09/12/2020 03:24:02 0 0
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grenadire?
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09/12/2020 04:53:44 1 2
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Sadly hard cash and the laws of economics in play here. Given the choice of buying an established modern plant or starting from scratch which would you choose? Also, given the hostility shown by Scottish government to Ineos’ main business I wouldn’t be surprise if they up sticks and left UK altogether.
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Bob
09/12/2020 04:55:01 1 2
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And that is because there is a surplus to requirements Mercedes factory and staff ready and available versus building a new factory from scratch and training 500 Welsh men from scratch. Simple automobile economics.
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09/12/2020 05:02:56 0 0
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Then they wont be getting my business. If others react the same they will go bust
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09/12/2020 05:03:42 3 0
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Owned by the man who helped fund Brexit!
Rat deserting sinking ship comes to mind !
clearly you know nothing about Ineos otherwise you would know while british owned its owner so hates the uk he lives in Monaco "James Arthur Ratcliffe" and not using the honorific he does not deserve it as all he does is rape the uk for his personal fortune and tax avoid by living in monaco Removed
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09/12/2020 05:46:24 2 0
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He might be British born but he lives un Monaco. That says it all.
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09/12/2020 06:26:25 2 0
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Owned by a pro-Brexiteer. Who’d have thought it ??
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09/12/2020 07:23:18 3 0
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The Brexit funding owner went to tax haven Monaco. That's the Brexit elites for you.
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09/12/2020 09:36:23 1 0
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Yep Ineos are going to learn the hard way about French employment laws, as soon as they try to change anything or move the factory to Eastern Europe or Turkey etc. They’ll be broken by the French employment rules and costs.

Why do you think there are so many empty non French car factories in France!?
09/12/2020 16:47:03 0 0
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Well start applying to live in France
09/12/2020 17:14:49 0 0
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It was never being built in Wales. Radcliffe looked at a site in Wales, but the Mercedes plant in France was a better option. It has the infrastructure and staff pretty much in place already.

The BBC have also quoted nonsense about the factory moving. How can it move if it was never there?
So good Brexit is for the UK that billionaire main Brexitear Jim Ratcliffe will be building his Bridgend "a vote of confidence in UK expertise" car factory in FRANCE! Of course he's also moved to Monaco to avoid paying tax. That just shows you how disgusting all this is and how they are laughing all the way to collect their billions while people in this country will lose jobs and livelihoods.
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08/12/2020 18:50:19 15 20
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Why haven't they long since made alternative arrangements ?
No way to run a business.
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08/12/2020 18:57:06 19 4
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Since when did international companies owe UK workers a living? If the environment is inhospitable, they leave. Simple. Every business and area of work and technology cannot be run like a local boozer or hotdog stand. Wake up!
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08/12/2020 19:05:41 3 1
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To be fair there has been a massive and concerted effort to say this wont happen, oven ready deal, things will be fine. RED WHITE AND BLUE BREXIT.

I mean its still a totally justifyable point you make, noone should take the government at face value, especially when it comes to competancy. The should have prepared regardless.
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08/12/2020 19:09:11 3 5
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Yes, you wonder why one of the most successful companies in the World have not stockpiled millions of spare parts.
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08/12/2020 18:50:21 15 12
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And this is before the end of the transitional period. Even if we do get a (bad) trade deal with the EU, it's going to get far worse.
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08/12/2020 18:50:42 162 27
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Is this the 'sunlit upland' or the 'having our cake and eating it' that the Brexiters promised us all? Maybe it's the 'all upsides and no downsides' the Brexiters assured us all would be the result of their choice...?
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08/12/2020 22:08:39 44 6
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Or is it Empire 2.0? The last knocking of the imperial dream. Pax Britannica don’t y'know
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DG
08/12/2020 18:51:11 10 16
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When deliveries slowed due to Covid restrictions at the ports and airports, the smarter companies made alterations to their orders, e.g. more of the salient/critical items were ordered.............. get on with ot and stop moaning. Or is Honda looking for an excuse to lift and shift its operation?
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08/12/2020 19:05:50 7 2
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What Honda need is someone with your insight to sort out this problem. It's easy to stockpile tinned tomatoes but a car is made up of 10,000 parts - not so easy is it! And you seem to be unaware that Honda have already announced UK production is ending in about a year.
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09/12/2020 00:20:12 0 0
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The article makes it clear that Honda have ordered the parts, but they are stuck in Antwerp, Rotterdam etc. That's why they are resorting to Airfreight, which is both expensive and very bad for the environment. This is not Honda's fault, it's the fault of this Government for clogging up the system with orders for PPE (which should have been stockpiled since 2016 and Operation Cygnus).
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08/12/2020 18:51:50 211 53
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It's Christmas come early for the Brexit turkeys.
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08/12/2020 19:17:11 67 233
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You realise Brexit hasn't been mentioned once in the above article.

I could suggest that you are another remoaner who can't move on following a democratic vote, however instead may I point you in the direction of the various actual Brexit HYS's on here where you can spout such nonsense.
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09/12/2020 02:54:37 0 0
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Probably early for the turkey but a little to late for the car Never mind you can always take on slaves via your highly valued people traffickers
09/12/2020 10:14:33 0 0
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Oven ready!
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08/12/2020 18:51:54 1 10
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I am sure if Honda want to leave the UK Geely will have no problem taking over there site
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08/12/2020 18:57:34 9 2
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They have already announced they are leaving the UK. Who is Geely?
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08/12/2020 18:57:43 2 1
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And who would the Chinese sell their motors to?
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08/12/2020 18:53:05 20 11
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With the change from fossil fuelled cars to alternative methods and after working for a car logistics firm recently where I have seen thousands of ex-lease cars stored in airfields across the country, any stories about Brexit/ Covid repercussions are very hollow. Is it not the truth that there are way too many car manufacturers who are making way too many cars?
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09/12/2020 00:30:07 0 0
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IC engine vehicles yes, that's why we need them to change to electric vehicles. Not just because it's good for the environment, but because it will allow the accumulated stocks of IC vehicles to be run-down whilst the factories are re-tooled.

Better an EV Manufacturing plant than no Manufacturing plant at all.
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08/12/2020 18:47:02 246 55
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Project reality. Motor parts, medicines, foods...if you are still supporting the chaos then you are the problem with this country. Time for the softest of brino and send the swivel eyed packing
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DG
08/12/2020 18:53:42 50 206
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You are wrong, companies that operate smart aquisition/supply will survive.
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08/12/2020 19:08:53 46 2
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How will they when they can no longer rely on Just in time supply chain? They will have to hold expensive stock in expensive UK warehouses, making their products expensive and uncompetitive. Brexit is going to kill UK manufacturing, swiftly followed by Financial Service - 10% of GDP all thanks to the Brexit Bonus.
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08/12/2020 19:34:11 30 1
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On what basis do you make your statement? I am sure that Honda operate in the way that you suggest. It is not in their interest not to do so. It has been the industry norm, as are global supply chains, for 30/35 years and certainly since this plant opened.
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08/12/2020 22:12:54 9 0
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That doesn’t help people who lose their jobs - we are in the middle of a pandemic, thousands losing their jobs, deaths, anguish and loneliness. And people are still as divided as ever over this issue. I just despair.
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RPH
09/12/2020 00:14:08 11 1
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That's OK then: with effort we will 'survive' Brexit. Can't remember it being marketed that way at the time...
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09/12/2020 00:25:22 3 0
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It's the ones that won't that concern. And there'll be many..!
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VoR
09/12/2020 06:51:23 0 0
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By smart, you mean less environmentally friendly, more expensive, or more morally questionable than what they had when we were in the EU?
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09/12/2020 07:27:14 0 0
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You mean when we have as many countries supplying us as Iran under sanctions?
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09/12/2020 07:51:13 0 0
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Clearly you know nothing about running a company.

Manufacturing requires a steady supply of parts. Disrupt that supply, and you disrupt manufacturing. That makes it expensive. Too much disruption, and it becomes too expensive. Best to relocate where there is minimal disruption, such as a country that's in the EU.
09/12/2020 10:30:17 0 0
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SMART = companies stockpile, then need to borrow more to cover increased stock then charge more to cover increased costs. Another brexit downside.....there are so many of them...
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08/12/2020 18:54:12 323 26
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We always have Stilton to fall back on thanks to Liz Truss' deal with Japan
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08/12/2020 23:15:20 13 12
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Wonderful, cheese gives me a stomach ache :(
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09/12/2020 00:18:45 1 0
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Oh, that's all right then!
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09/12/2020 05:42:16 0 0
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they will get cheap soy sauce
09/12/2020 08:08:03 0 0
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Sheer genius getting a deal for cheese with a country that is mostly lactose intolerant
09/12/2020 08:23:02 0 0
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Only after they have had their fill of Camembert.
09/12/2020 08:34:29 0 0
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Personally I prefer Shropshire Blue, but come over to Germany... shelves groaning with French immitation cheese, German rubber, Dutch and Swiss cheeses... but British cheese? You have to hunt that down and maybe, maybe if you are very very very lucky there might be one type of one cheese. No range, no selection, just one type.
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LG
08/12/2020 18:46:43 45 5
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Thought Honda were already leaving?
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08/12/2020 18:54:25 41 5
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Yes they are, but not for a year or two.
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08/12/2020 22:25:30 1 0
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The plant closes in July 2012...
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09/12/2020 00:33:04 0 0
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Oh well, that's all right then..!
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08/12/2020 18:54:33 422 86
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Chaos looming ahead - all predictable but still Leavers want to take back control.

Control of what exactly?
Take back control of the country i.e. Borders, Immigration, UK Judicial System and Laws, Restrict the Movement of European criminals for a start. Removed
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08/12/2020 19:30:46 6 43
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So blinded by bitterness
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09/12/2020 06:17:40 0 0
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Everything.
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09/12/2020 07:21:49 0 0
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Control of the country, perhaps it’s time people started buying and using more home grown and British stuff and no so reliant on cheap foreign imports. How about building British cars again lime we used to? Whatever happens, we will survive, we always do.
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09/12/2020 07:47:39 0 0
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Don't want to take back control, have taken back control. It is called sovereignty
09/12/2020 08:04:04 0 0
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how about - what and how we tax, how we manage population control in the 3rd most densely populated major land mass in the world, having a govt that is both voted for and accountable to the people and that publishes all minutes except defence matters. not being subject to the new qualified majority set up for major decision making. i've got lots more if you want them.
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08/12/2020 18:45:21 201 28
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Tell Boris to sort it out. Oven ready or something
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08/12/2020 18:54:53 216 23
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Boris can't even sort out his hair every morning
09/12/2020 09:40:42 1 0
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And that's thinning.
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08/12/2020 18:55:29 10 14
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We must be nearing a conclusion, the bbc has thrown everything it’s got into its campaign today ??
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08/12/2020 18:55:56 9 21
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Sounds like poor planning to me, and I worked 30 years in international freight forwarding. This included car plant supply, they all operate on a ‘just on time’ basis.
So our ports are booming in spite of remain anti Brexit propaganda. Do not believe their lies, the EU has held the United Kingdom in contempt and stunted its trade growth for decades.
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08/12/2020 18:57:53 15 7
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Joining the single market took Britain from the sick man of Europe to one in the most successful countries in Europe.
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08/12/2020 19:00:31 3 4
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So it's Honda's fault that our ports are congested? Perhaps they should have stockpiled parts - oh, but that seems to be one of the reasons explained in the article that is causing the problem - did you actually read the article?
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08/12/2020 18:53:37 358 64
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The Brexit lot will simply deny this reality. When the top oncology surgeon of the UK raised fears of delays in getting certain essential cancer treating equipment and pharmaceuticals due to Brexit, Farage called him an 'idiot'. Moreover, Brexit supporters praised Farage and said '..what does this expert know about treating cancer? Nothing! We don't trust or need experts.' This is their mentality.
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08/12/2020 19:24:34 96 334
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A typical potential supply chain problem for a company that uses a risky just-in-time system.
Nothing to do with Brexit but don't let that stop your snobbery. It makes you look a bit silly though.
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08/12/2020 19:57:20 39 9
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Also many of the brexiteers probably don't know what oncology means
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08/12/2020 21:00:40 36 3
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Where is Farage now?
California with his German wife and kids because he did not see a future in the UK outside of Europe.
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08/12/2020 22:46:53 23 3
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It's one of the main principles of populism, brainwash followers to believe experts are wrong. Very powerful stuff and hard to undo.
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08/12/2020 23:39:41 1 11
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Evidence? Facts? What is the reality rather than the 'fears'? This is the conflation of expertise fallacy (expert in A implies expert in A+B = false).
What does the oncologist know about trade and logistics? I wouldn't go to a logistics expert for cancer treatment any more than I would go to an oncologist for logistics advice.
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09/12/2020 07:14:50 1 0
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And the Royal Pharmacutical College pointed out 18 months ago) there has been a problem with getting drugs for decades and brexit will have no effect.
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08/12/2020 18:56:38 15 17
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You’ll regret the day you voted to leave.
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08/12/2020 19:22:17 1 3
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4.5 years later and I'm still waiting to regret it. Looks like project fear just keeps repeating itself.
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08/12/2020 18:56:59 7 18
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if you want cars produced in the UK you simply put a 30% duty on all imported cars
its not rocket science
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08/12/2020 19:06:11 7 6
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Yep then the EU puts 30% tariffs on whatever they choose, talk about thick as two short planks. Wonder which way he voted.
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08/12/2020 18:57:06 286 34
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Our hero prime minister will come to our rescue tomorrow and manage to confirm a deal just when none seemed possible. The Express, Mail and Telegraph will then portray it as a great success. All those that voted for this nonsense will be daft enough to drink it all in and not see for the farce it is.
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09/12/2020 00:15:01 53 2
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And the pink tooth fairy will leave us all a half crown under our pillows!
09/12/2020 08:06:50 0 0
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He's terrific at make deals, no one makes better deals than him, no one knows more about making deals than him....he will.makr Europe pay for the deal...unless the deal is stollen by crooked eu..
09/12/2020 08:46:42 0 0
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I almost wish that were true but Johnson is outclassed and out of his depth we will leave without a deal by mistake as was likely as soon as this dreadful government was voted in to do as they liked.
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08/12/2020 18:51:54 1 10
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I am sure if Honda want to leave the UK Geely will have no problem taking over there site
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08/12/2020 18:57:34 9 2
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They have already announced they are leaving the UK. Who is Geely?
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09/12/2020 00:25:49 0 0
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Don't you even know who Zehjiang Geeley Holdings Group Ltd are? They are one of the largest car makers on the planet, and own Proton, Volvo, Lotus and London EV Vehicles (makers of the London Black Taxi) amongst their own branded vehicles.

They sold 1.5 million cars in 2018.
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08/12/2020 18:51:54 1 10
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I am sure if Honda want to leave the UK Geely will have no problem taking over there site
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08/12/2020 18:57:43 2 1
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And who would the Chinese sell their motors to?
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08/12/2020 18:56:37 14 25
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There was a vote. Vote leave won. Get over it
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LG
08/12/2020 19:00:02 21 11
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Based on... er lies!
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08/12/2020 19:00:31 2 3
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Hey Mick - this has NOTHING to do with the vote you genius.

Hahahaha - sounds like you actually can't get over it.
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08/12/2020 18:57:48 15 15
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So it's "possible parts shortage" then, and not "parts shortage" as stated, BBC being alarmist as ever.
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08/12/2020 20:26:30 7 0
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The BBC are simply reporting what Honda are saying to their employees. The company is clearly concerned enough about a "possible" parts shortage that they're warning them that production could be disrupted.
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08/12/2020 18:55:56 9 21
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Sounds like poor planning to me, and I worked 30 years in international freight forwarding. This included car plant supply, they all operate on a ‘just on time’ basis.
So our ports are booming in spite of remain anti Brexit propaganda. Do not believe their lies, the EU has held the United Kingdom in contempt and stunted its trade growth for decades.
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08/12/2020 18:57:53 15 7
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Joining the single market took Britain from the sick man of Europe to one in the most successful countries in Europe.
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08/12/2020 18:59:51 4 8
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Utter rubbish.
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08/12/2020 20:24:36 0 1
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What a load of tosh
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TPB
08/12/2020 18:58:42 13 21
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'Could' hamper, but won't. Car maker after another taxpayer handout. Project Fear nonsense from the anti Brexit BBC who give this prominence.
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08/12/2020 18:50:19 15 20
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Why haven't they long since made alternative arrangements ?
No way to run a business.
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08/12/2020 18:57:06 19 4
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Since when did international companies owe UK workers a living? If the environment is inhospitable, they leave. Simple. Every business and area of work and technology cannot be run like a local boozer or hotdog stand. Wake up!
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08/12/2020 18:59:36 655 189
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Ahhhhhh good 'ol Project Fear - coming true once again Brexiteers.

Am sure all those in the North voting leave knew this right? Explained in detail for the leave vote and not just lying to them all?

Manufacturing companies running for Europe, overseas investment in UK falling off a cliff. Tesla in Europe, Nissan and Honda leaving for Europe. Just the start - but hey you won eh! Congrats.
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08/12/2020 19:04:10 230 501
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You know Brexit hasn't been mentioned anywhere in this article?

An article written on the BBC News website often labeled as an anti-brexit haven.

Don't let the truth get in the way though!

Perhaps you can also post your incorrect anti-brexit propaganda on one of the many actual Brexit HYS's also running on here?

Just a thought...
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DSA
08/12/2020 19:08:06 9 63
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Let them go and utilise the redundant workers to make a new all British car.
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08/12/2020 19:46:37 18 79
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These manufacturing companies you talk of running to Europe will soon find that working practices and rules are much more onerous than in the UK with more powerful unionisation.
Honda's descision to leave the UK has nothing to do with Brexit. Honda cars dont sell well here. It was decided before we even voted, you patronising Southern T@ Removed
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bob
08/12/2020 20:04:36 8 69
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The same as when we were in the EU then. Trade deficit up fivefold in 10 years. At least going forward we will have a say.
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08/12/2020 20:06:13 40 41
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If you’re going to spout off then try and make it factually correct. Honda is ceasing manufacturing in the EU not the just the UK, the recent EU-Japan trade deal means that it makes sense now to manufacture in Japan and ship to EU; no doubt you won’t want to hear the truth, but hey ho
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08/12/2020 20:56:33 18 27
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Blaming all this on Brexit is 100% Project Fear. There are a couple of issues with that narrative. Firstly, we still haven't really left the EU in terms of things like customs and shipping. Secondly, there are massive global disruptions to shipping on this scale everywhere from here to New Zeealand because of the pandemic. Ships and containers in the wrong place, backlogs, huge knockon effects...
284
08/12/2020 21:01:31 24 5
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And you missed Frankfurt rubbing their hands at the prospects for finance systems.
307
08/12/2020 21:09:41 7 26
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Can't actually see the word Brexit in this article but more a form filling bureaucracy disaster at Felixstowe.
379
08/12/2020 21:46:51 3 15
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Honda left for Japan because the EU signed a free trade deal with them removing tariffs. In fact if we have a no deal Brexit several German car manufacturers are likely to move into the UK!!!! Still never let the facts get in the way of moaning about Brexit....
440
08/12/2020 22:16:06 1 10
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What’s brexit got to do with it. Maybe you didn’t read the article.
497
08/12/2020 22:42:17 1 3
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Many companies have been moved to Europe over the last 40 years nothing to do with brexit in fact some to help eastern block countries
506
08/12/2020 22:35:13 0 6
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honda are actually leaving the UK, thats a fact. However theyre leaving mainland europe too. Nothing to do with brexit.

Nissan are not leaving the UK either but hey, dont ever let facts cloud your pro EU view.

We voted leave, then voted to get brexit done.

And yes..we did win. You lost. commiserations
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08/12/2020 23:51:57 1 0
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Honda is leaving Europe altogether and that's because of the UE-Japanese commercial agreement which defines zero tariffs for cars imported from Japan. Get your facts right.
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08/12/2020 18:57:53 15 7
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Joining the single market took Britain from the sick man of Europe to one in the most successful countries in Europe.
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08/12/2020 18:59:51 4 8
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Utter rubbish.
691
09/12/2020 00:53:51 0 0
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Why is it rubbish? It's actually true to say that in the 1990's, Britain was recovering (and booming) after the recession of 1992. John Major knew that the Maastricht treaty would open up new markets on the Continent to British business. That's what free-market economics means, and it allows businesses to prosper. The Euro was a step too far but it would have simplified business even further.
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08/12/2020 18:56:37 14 25
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There was a vote. Vote leave won. Get over it
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LG
08/12/2020 19:00:02 21 11
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Based on... er lies!
87
08/12/2020 19:17:45 2 0
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NO BASED UPON THE MOSTR VOTES YOU OBVIOUSLY DID NOT GET OUT OF A NICE WARM BED TO VOTE AT YOU POLLING STATION
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08/12/2020 18:56:37 14 25
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There was a vote. Vote leave won. Get over it
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08/12/2020 19:00:31 2 3
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Hey Mick - this has NOTHING to do with the vote you genius.

Hahahaha - sounds like you actually can't get over it.
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08/12/2020 19:16:21 2 1
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Remoaners still moaning. Priceless.
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08/12/2020 18:55:56 9 21
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Sounds like poor planning to me, and I worked 30 years in international freight forwarding. This included car plant supply, they all operate on a ‘just on time’ basis.
So our ports are booming in spite of remain anti Brexit propaganda. Do not believe their lies, the EU has held the United Kingdom in contempt and stunted its trade growth for decades.
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08/12/2020 19:00:31 3 4
bbc
So it's Honda's fault that our ports are congested? Perhaps they should have stockpiled parts - oh, but that seems to be one of the reasons explained in the article that is causing the problem - did you actually read the article?
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08/12/2020 18:54:33 422 86
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Chaos looming ahead - all predictable but still Leavers want to take back control.

Control of what exactly?
Take back control of the country i.e. Borders, Immigration, UK Judicial System and Laws, Restrict the Movement of European criminals for a start. Removed
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08/12/2020 19:09:15 110 12
bbc
We had all those things when we were members of the EU. You fell for the lie that we didn't have control.
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08/12/2020 20:12:11 64 2
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But now we won't which Europeans are criminals and which aren't as we won't have access to the Europol databases any more.
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08/12/2020 20:14:33 76 5
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Except, we won’t know who the European criminals are because we will no longer have access to the shared Schengen intelligence systems. If anything we will have less control over who is crossing the border than we do now.
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08/12/2020 20:37:41 51 3
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Since we'll now not have access to SIS2 & the European Arrest Warrant I suspect most of the 'European criminals' will head our way - just as our criminals headed for Spain before we signed an extradition treaty with Spain in 1985. Police estimate that around 100 billion pounds of dirty money is moved through or into Britain each year. [Reuters report]
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08/12/2020 21:05:01 29 3
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that could have been done within the EU so what will be the excuse from the government when your points are not addressed
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08/12/2020 21:15:01 11 0
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Ah its so good to know that after we restrict the movement of European criminals crime will disappear in this country.
380
08/12/2020 21:46:55 17 0
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LOL thats so funny. The UK over the years failed to inform the EU countries of 70,000 criminals who were released after completing their sentences and then tried to cover the fact up. The UK will never be able to stop illegal entry into the UK. The UK helped write lots of laws and legislation currently in use in the EU. £215bn paid to EU over 47years Brexit costs as of last January £205bn.
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08/12/2020 21:47:23 18 0
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You mean, "Control of the things we already had control of."
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08/12/2020 21:50:18 16 0
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We always had control of those, it was just an easy excuse by inept politicians (of more than 1 party) "ah, but EU rules...."
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08/12/2020 21:50:20 11 0
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Criminals are going to have a field day now the EU is no longer going to share the database of known crooks' names.
403
08/12/2020 22:01:36 3 0
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Yea, its sovereignty innit.
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08/12/2020 22:06:46 4 0
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We have all of that already, numpty. Have had for years, it's just our inept, tightfisted government has chosen not to put the proper resources into enforcing those rights, preferring just to let the lying tory press blame it on the EU instead, and you all fell for it. Guess what's even better? We are still subject to the judgements of the ECHR because that's got nothing to do with the EU.
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08/12/2020 22:13:49 3 0
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You're not in "control" of anything - unless you believe hair product ads (and you probably do....)
441
08/12/2020 22:16:32 4 0
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Everything in life is a compromise and being part of EU had more good points than bad points. Losing their jobs, businesses and homes will only serve the leavers right; shame it will also affect the broad minded people who saw past the few disadvantages of EU.
451
08/12/2020 22:16:02 4 0
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Does restricting the movement of European criminals include British criminals too?
460
08/12/2020 22:24:59 4 1
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And we're going to do that by having an open border in Ireland and not being connected to the European police interpol etc. systems to track the movements of European criminals?
Oh, and we might want to actually employ a few customs officers seeing as there are hardly any left - or are the Tories going to farm those jobs out to Group 4 and the like too?
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08/12/2020 22:28:49 5 0
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Some people will never learn. Brexit has cost the UK BILLIONS, unemployment is up, banking has fled the City to cause an office building frenzy in Frankfurt but hey, trot out the same rubbish that people fell for by the people making millions from.
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08/12/2020 22:56:30 2 0
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People who voted for the criminals running our country need to take back control of their thought processes rather than leave it to the express/mail/sun etc
538
08/12/2020 23:08:10 2 0
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We've got enough home grown criminals....the traditional ones and the business ones.
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08/12/2020 23:21:48 3 0
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The take back control thing was UTTER BS, had they actually taken back control of the borders then there's a chance we wouldn't have had such a bad year regarding covid.

You fell for the leave campaign BS and you can't admit it, like many others too dim to see through the lies.
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09/12/2020 00:19:30 0 0
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And weighed against our losses..?
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09/12/2020 00:49:41 0 0
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So currently the UK does exactly how many of those things??????
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09/12/2020 01:00:44 2 1
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Taken back control since January 2020: can't close borders to stop covid on an F ing ISLAND, breaking international law, having unelected Cummings run the country, enough criminals in the UK that we can't control. Ah immigration "stop foreigners taking our job" low skilled British dont want to work nor will they in the fields or on the streets! Maybe get an education and do better.
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09/12/2020 01:35:02 4 0
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We could stop EU criminals if we wanted or return them to their own country if they did not have a job in three months. We were part of the free movement of labour, not of people and that is Shengen, it is our government allowing it they were not forced to. We always had control of our judicial system, the EU had nothing to do with that.
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09/12/2020 05:44:51 0 0
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"Restrict the Movement of European criminals for a start"
no you wont! pulling out of EU policing mechanisms will let you do nothing to European criminals, they can just turn in at at the borders, and gain entry, UK border force won't know a think about their past! Being in the EU could and did
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09/12/2020 05:45:07 1 0
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We never had to accept any criminals. Note how the Costa del crime has been able to extradite our criminals back to us.
We could always have restricted immigration from EU to people who could support themselves financially.
On the plus side, we received a willing and great young workforce who have been the beating heart of our care homes and hospitals. What a loss.
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VoR
09/12/2020 06:46:34 0 0
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I suspect more of our criminals go to Europe than the other way around.

Not to mention that we can't control our borders, regardless of rules, because we lack the resources to do it.

Most laws blamed on Europe were in the UK application of them, not the original laws.

There are exceptions, but the UK created more problems for itself than Europe did. In that sense, Brexit is more of the same.
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09/12/2020 07:26:39 0 0
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We have all of those things! We just chose not to use half of them!
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09/12/2020 07:38:53 0 0
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All those things we already had control of?

If anything, we're going to have rather less control. In the EU we had a say in those laws being made, in fact we were instrumental in many of them. Out of the EU, we want to trade with them (which we do, desperately), we'll simply be rule takers.

'taking back control' was just another meaningless slogan.
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08/12/2020 19:01:37 5 16
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only a matter of time before the panicking remainers are Buying up all the toilet paper again .
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08/12/2020 19:18:55 3 1
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Oh the irony! It was the ill-educated conspiracy theory-loving brexit voters who were doing that! Remainers are too well educated to do something so selfish and ridiculous.
09/12/2020 11:07:25 0 0
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Nah, it's mainly brexiteers that are full of something that needs that much toilet paper.
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08/12/2020 19:03:07 381 68
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The answer to that, which they appear to have already have planned is to just close the UK plant. Same for Nissan and AIRBUS et.al The UK is about to lose its status as a gateway to a 400 million person plus market and it looks likely that the new US administration sees the EU as the future. So, over the next few years the UK will drift into irrelevance unless Boris panics and rushes to Brussels.
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08/12/2020 19:13:46 141 33
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Well said
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08/12/2020 19:18:57 3 25
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Check your facts LucyLu
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08/12/2020 19:19:17 7 33
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A supply chain problem arises (as they do) and out comes remoaner project fear, lol.
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Den
08/12/2020 21:32:31 4 2
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Airbus? That'a funny, they are in the process of building a massive new office at Stevenage. Maybe they are moving some, but they are also building more here.
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08/12/2020 22:02:30 11 4
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Project Self Harm is now becoming apparent, even to the gammonista
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08/12/2020 22:09:19 16 4
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And even if all that comes true, the hard Brexiteers won’t care one jot about it because...... they got their country back!!
That’s the level we are dealing with - pathetic isn’t it?
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08/12/2020 22:19:34 8 14
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They're closing the plant in Turkey too.

Funny how you forgot to mention that, OR Honda's global restructuring.

You remainers either outright lie, or are extremely "economical with the truth" at every opportunity.

I'm GLAD we're out of the EU, an organisation whose most avid supporters couldn't lie straight in bed.
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09/12/2020 06:31:15 0 1
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Vice versa my friend @
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09/12/2020 07:07:11 2 0
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The UK is already an irrelevance. Very quickly drifting into third world status. Unable to move on from it's imperial past and unwilling to be part of a major trading bloc which has real international clout. But that's what people narrowly voted for so in the name of democracy our economy goes down the pan. So sad.
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09/12/2020 07:12:02 1 2
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Nissan and Airbus are European firms.
The blairite Remainers seem to totally miss the point that we used to have our own aerospace industries - NB plural - and automotive.
We could try and bring them back, it would mean deviating from Blair and Sturgeon's curriculums of stupidity and grade inflation policies, to encourage STEM subjects again, but it can be done.
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09/12/2020 07:28:58 0 0
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Johnson knows he will displace Lord North (the PM who allowed the USA to secede) as the worst British PM in history unless he capitulates today. Will his childish ego allow him one wonders?
09/12/2020 08:27:03 0 0
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Unfortunately a very good observation, I have a feeling Felixstowe will end up selling more and more of its land to housing developers, an initial log jam will be followed by the dust settling on our economy. They can build third homes for the Brexiteers that sold England off by the pound.
09/12/2020 08:36:54 0 0
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Thats fine. HMG steps in and takes over the plant. HMG should put through a law today making it impossible to dismantal machinery or buildings. If these companies want to move out they leave it all behind. We should ban imports of products of any company doing this for 100years. I am sorry, Nissan have the WORLDS most efficient production plant in Sunderland, shutting it would be spite.
09/12/2020 08:42:16 1 0
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Yes the idea that this is over if we leave without a deal is utter nonsense negotiations will restart on 2nd January we cannot not have a trade deal with our nearest neighbour. We will of course be at an ever larger disadvantage in the talks as we will be supplicants. Congratulations everyone involved in this Farago.
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08/12/2020 19:03:28 7 19
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EU agreed trade deal with Japan which undermined Swindon's Honda plant which is to close making all their loyal workers redundant. Honda is another EU disaster NOT a Brexit one.
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08/12/2020 19:18:08 1 2
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Spot on. Any car industry knowledge and you know this.
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08/12/2020 19:03:29 14 18
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Oh dear!
Another HYS on Brexit although it seems this has more to do with "a vehicle booking system" at Felixstowe, to name one Port.
The simple fact is that the BBC is against Brexit. Rightly or wrongly there was a Referendum in 2016. The people voted in huge numbers. Live with the decision. In life you have to deal with things you don't like and make the best of it.
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08/12/2020 19:18:03 1 7
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The problem is nothing to with Brexit but the fact that it involves ports gives the remoaners another cheap opportunity to tell their lies about us leaving.
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08/12/2020 18:59:36 655 189
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Ahhhhhh good 'ol Project Fear - coming true once again Brexiteers.

Am sure all those in the North voting leave knew this right? Explained in detail for the leave vote and not just lying to them all?

Manufacturing companies running for Europe, overseas investment in UK falling off a cliff. Tesla in Europe, Nissan and Honda leaving for Europe. Just the start - but hey you won eh! Congrats.
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08/12/2020 19:04:10 230 501
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You know Brexit hasn't been mentioned anywhere in this article?

An article written on the BBC News website often labeled as an anti-brexit haven.

Don't let the truth get in the way though!

Perhaps you can also post your incorrect anti-brexit propaganda on one of the many actual Brexit HYS's also running on here?

Just a thought...
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08/12/2020 19:16:52 148 9
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Actually Brexit is mentioned, as a reason that some companies are stockpiling, about halfway down.
Head in the sand. Just pretend it’s not happening as you caused this utter $hit show so man up and face the fact you’ve taken this nation from a major influence in the worlds largest trading block to an isolated island full of 17 m + racists . Removed
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08/12/2020 21:18:22 11 4
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I think you need to read the article. It does blame Brexit. It says that the congestion is caused by companies stockpiling parts before the end of Brexit transition. Presumably because they won't be able to get them after.
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08/12/2020 21:18:24 12 3
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Yep. Mentioned just before the analysis. I spotted that by reading the information and considering it before deciding to vote...erm...sorry, post.
"Don't let the truth get in the way though!"

Why should we? You brextwits never have...
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08/12/2020 21:58:43 16 1
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Learn to read. The whole thing is about congestion at ports due to increased traffic, caused by "stockpiling.....before the end of the Brexit transition period". Why stockpiling? Because businesses like mine have been told by our Brexit government to expect chaos after 1st Jan
Yes it has you moron. Try reading it.... Removed
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08/12/2020 22:09:31 2 0
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A "thought" ?!
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08/12/2020 22:12:44 1 8
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Well said
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08/12/2020 22:29:03 9 0
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Maybe you read a different article. The one I read on the BBC Wales news web-site has a quote from the local MP: "That Brexit is clearly a major factor at play is a bitter pill to swallow".

Or is that just anti-Brexit propaganda?
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08/12/2020 22:45:17 6 0
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>Just a thought...

but not a very apt one. still desperately defending the indefensible unless you go into trumpian levels of denial.
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08/12/2020 23:39:55 4 0
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Good lad. Take it easy. The doctor's on his way.
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DSA
08/12/2020 19:05:10 10 21
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Good old BBC just cannot go a day without giving the remainers something to go at.

As they like the EU so much, is there any chance of the BBC relocating to France and becoming a subscription channel?

If it happened they would have very few UK subscribers.
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08/12/2020 19:07:41 10 4
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Your Brexit orgasm is almost arrived. Enjoy it for the few seconds it will last.
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08/12/2020 19:12:58 2 1
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I voted to stay in the EU. I’m sick to death of being condemned by the Neanderthals who voted leave with the impending chaos and restrictions on everyone. If I could leave the U.K. I would!
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08/12/2020 19:13:19 1 0
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Otherwise known as 'facts'?
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08/12/2020 19:16:19 1 0
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Like Brexiteer Sir Jim Ratcliffe you mean
09/12/2020 11:12:30 0 0
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Well we're just waiting for the good news brexit stories, but they're as rare as unicorns.
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08/12/2020 19:05:28 3 2
bbc
Why would any company that could not mitigate the effects of delayed deliveries use the M25 car park
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08/12/2020 19:05:30 9 13
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Boycott this company
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08/12/2020 19:13:32 8 4
bbc
Yes, buy my steam powered car with stilton wheels
It's fired with blocks of compressed dried unpicked soft fruits
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08/12/2020 18:50:19 15 20
bbc
Why haven't they long since made alternative arrangements ?
No way to run a business.
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08/12/2020 19:05:41 3 1
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To be fair there has been a massive and concerted effort to say this wont happen, oven ready deal, things will be fine. RED WHITE AND BLUE BREXIT.

I mean its still a totally justifyable point you make, noone should take the government at face value, especially when it comes to competancy. The should have prepared regardless.
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DG
08/12/2020 18:51:11 10 16
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When deliveries slowed due to Covid restrictions at the ports and airports, the smarter companies made alterations to their orders, e.g. more of the salient/critical items were ordered.............. get on with ot and stop moaning. Or is Honda looking for an excuse to lift and shift its operation?
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08/12/2020 19:05:50 7 2
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What Honda need is someone with your insight to sort out this problem. It's easy to stockpile tinned tomatoes but a car is made up of 10,000 parts - not so easy is it! And you seem to be unaware that Honda have already announced UK production is ending in about a year.
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08/12/2020 18:56:59 7 18
bbc
if you want cars produced in the UK you simply put a 30% duty on all imported cars
its not rocket science
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08/12/2020 19:06:11 7 6
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Yep then the EU puts 30% tariffs on whatever they choose, talk about thick as two short planks. Wonder which way he voted.
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08/12/2020 19:06:37 8 5
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Might Honda move to Wales? or might they follow Sir Jim to France?
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08/12/2020 19:04:55 16 3
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It's Mercedes drivers who should be worried as replacement parts are much needed and already to expensive
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08/12/2020 21:36:32 5 1
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Do you drive one ? there is major class action lawsuit against Merc just started .
Seems they used the same dodgy data as VW .
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VoR
09/12/2020 07:09:58 0 0
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I recommend using a small independent mechanic who crafts parts on demand. Much faster and cheaper for most of what needs replacing, and never had any issues taking this route.
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DSA
08/12/2020 19:05:10 10 21
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Good old BBC just cannot go a day without giving the remainers something to go at.

As they like the EU so much, is there any chance of the BBC relocating to France and becoming a subscription channel?

If it happened they would have very few UK subscribers.
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08/12/2020 19:07:41 10 4
bbc
Your Brexit orgasm is almost arrived. Enjoy it for the few seconds it will last.
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08/12/2020 18:59:36 655 189
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Ahhhhhh good 'ol Project Fear - coming true once again Brexiteers.

Am sure all those in the North voting leave knew this right? Explained in detail for the leave vote and not just lying to them all?

Manufacturing companies running for Europe, overseas investment in UK falling off a cliff. Tesla in Europe, Nissan and Honda leaving for Europe. Just the start - but hey you won eh! Congrats.
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DSA
08/12/2020 19:08:06 9 63
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Let them go and utilise the redundant workers to make a new all British car.
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08/12/2020 19:39:40 106 13
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"utilise the redundant workers"
And who will do that? Who will provide the massive investment required?
We can't keep the current investors never mind find new ones!

"a new all British car"
So no parts/components imported? No option for the new manufacturer to make use of foreign assets?

Cloud cuckoo land, are you pro Brexit by any chance?
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08/12/2020 21:17:50 8 8
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The Morris Marina was a great British car why don't we just start building that again.
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08/12/2020 19:08:53 84 11
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Years back, my old company went on to a "Just in time" component supply system. It was rapidly renamed "Just too late" by the production staff.
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08/12/2020 19:11:05 47 4
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Surely a tea break would fix that
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08/12/2020 19:18:58 18 2
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Which is why UK car manufacturing was taken over by the Japanese who know how to do it (and what prevents it from working, i.e. Brexit)
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08/12/2020 19:30:29 6 2
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Same here, for 2 decades we had stuff on the shelf ready for use. Nothing was wasted. Then the switch and production stopped on multiple machines. Comical.
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08/12/2020 19:49:29 9 2
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I worked for a defence company where some bright spark in management decided to implement what he termed JINT (Just IN Time). Part of the implementation was an assumption everything was on a two week lead time: another part was to sack the only person in procurement with a functional
brain. It was a disaster.
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08/12/2020 21:22:15 13 0
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That would have been down to poor management , you know the type, they don't take advice then wonder why it all went wrong.
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DG
08/12/2020 18:53:42 50 206
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You are wrong, companies that operate smart aquisition/supply will survive.
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08/12/2020 19:08:53 46 2
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How will they when they can no longer rely on Just in time supply chain? They will have to hold expensive stock in expensive UK warehouses, making their products expensive and uncompetitive. Brexit is going to kill UK manufacturing, swiftly followed by Financial Service - 10% of GDP all thanks to the Brexit Bonus.
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08/12/2020 22:39:05 2 13
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with interest rates at zero holding stock costs very little. All JIT companies hold stock locally. Not ever part is JIT.

This is not a brexit problem.

Interesting that we have so many imports from EU that the ports can't cope but the EU dont need a deal with us.

Felixstowe will be empty soon anyway beacuse with no deal the french fisherman will blockade calais.
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08/12/2020 18:50:19 15 20
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Why haven't they long since made alternative arrangements ?
No way to run a business.
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08/12/2020 19:09:11 3 5
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Yes, you wonder why one of the most successful companies in the World have not stockpiled millions of spare parts.
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08/12/2020 19:14:21 4 0
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Because it isn't the 1970s and manufacturing doesn't work like that any more, if it wants to be competitive/survive.
Take back control of the country i.e. Borders, Immigration, UK Judicial System and Laws, Restrict the Movement of European criminals for a start. Removed
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08/12/2020 19:09:15 110 12
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We had all those things when we were members of the EU. You fell for the lie that we didn't have control.
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08/12/2020 19:14:57 11 72
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Free movement for ALL EU citizens is one of the pillar(k)s of the EU regardless of their past behaviour. Freedom without responsibility!
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08/12/2020 19:53:00 6 70
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We had no control over a French and German cabal
Do wake up
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Sam
08/12/2020 19:09:36 22 20
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Could, potentially cause a parts shortage if things that might happen potentially lead to production not being as high as it might have been if UK had stayed in EU.

What a load of tosh.

How about poor logistics planning and lack of reillience in just in time system fails to anticipate increased demand resulting in unnecessary production impacts.

Bye bye supply chain director.
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08/12/2020 19:15:47 22 11
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Any reasons they operate this way genius? Can they store these supply parts in your house perhaps, your family could handle the parts in and out for free?
I think we need a new vaccine...an intelligence vax as it seems people are getting low IQ rates lately!
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08/12/2020 19:17:53 8 1
bbc
Clearly someone who has never run a supply chain. Brexit and JIT are incompatible for car companies. End of UK commodity car manufacturing - no point in making them in the UK when you can make them in EU (ask Jim Ratcliffe)
It's no longer Just In Time if you have to have large reserves of stock on-hand. I mean, the clue is literally in the name!

I love how Brexiters always think they know or can do better - then make a massive faux pas any idiot wouldn't have made. Hubris.
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08/12/2020 20:18:13 0 0
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The cost of a container carriage from Far East in November was £2000, in December went up to £6000, before they stopped taking orders for December shipping completely late last week. Too many empty containers in UK, and not enough trade going the other way. The is due to Covid lockdown easing compounded by Brexit stockpiling. If it has been foreseen, November costs would have been dearer no?
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08/12/2020 19:08:53 84 11
bbc
Years back, my old company went on to a "Just in time" component supply system. It was rapidly renamed "Just too late" by the production staff.
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08/12/2020 19:11:05 47 4
bbc
Surely a tea break would fix that
775
09/12/2020 05:14:15 1 0
bbc
Only a non manufacturing ignoramus would make a comment like that.
61
08/12/2020 19:11:45 13 11
bbc
What you voted for boys and girl. Wait until it's a shortage of food and you start pointing fingers at....the mirror?
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kay
08/12/2020 19:13:39 0 5
bbc
Or due to coronavirus..
73
08/12/2020 19:15:04 0 0
bbc
Try reading the article.
Amazing the number of "intelligentsia" who can't even read a simple article.
84
08/12/2020 19:17:17 0 0
bbc
Shortage for you too then as well..is that your desire?
62
08/12/2020 19:12:58 2 6
bbc
Perhaps implementing a Just in Time European Supply Chain to save taxes without a plan B was not good management?
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DSA
08/12/2020 19:05:10 10 21
bbc
Good old BBC just cannot go a day without giving the remainers something to go at.

As they like the EU so much, is there any chance of the BBC relocating to France and becoming a subscription channel?

If it happened they would have very few UK subscribers.
63
08/12/2020 19:12:58 2 1
bbc
I voted to stay in the EU. I’m sick to death of being condemned by the Neanderthals who voted leave with the impending chaos and restrictions on everyone. If I could leave the U.K. I would!
237
08/12/2020 20:21:52 0 0
bbc
Why can’t you leave, I’ll help you pack!
64
08/12/2020 19:13:03 96 15
bbc
As someone who imports containers regularly from the far east the issues seem to be, poor management at Felixstowe ... not the PPE containers, not Brexit - bad management. There are no issues in Europe. As for container rates, ask the big 4 shipping companies why they only have around 60% of vessels working - cartel / profiteering - its that simple.
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08/12/2020 19:27:09 96 1
bbc
Anothe point about Felixtowe... It only has a single track railway link to the UK rail network.

How about that for forward thinking?
269
08/12/2020 20:51:14 8 1
bbc
Congratulations on bringing some facts to the table.
536
08/12/2020 23:05:30 7 0
bbc
Is it a coincidence that Chris Grayling is now an advisor to the company that owns the Port of Felixstowe ?
He wears two arrows one of which points to his elbow
571
08/12/2020 23:32:54 6 1
bbc
Steady on there now, don't go bringing facts into this. The Leavers and Remainers can't cope with something/anything not being about Brexit.
586
08/12/2020 23:43:18 1 2
bbc
How long before this fact-based comment gets removed? And who voted it down?
771
09/12/2020 05:11:14 1 0
bbc
Well said.
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VoR
09/12/2020 07:02:30 4 1
bbc
According to my brother in law, who works in shipping, the reason they have fewer vessels working is economic slowdown, and in the case of the uk, port conversion. They can't get more ships in and they are wasting resource by having them hang around. The cruise ships may have no choice but the other ships do. And poor management is exacerbated by having to deal with Brexit.
09/12/2020 08:36:59 2 0
bbc
"There are no issues in Europe"... Why would there be? We already know brexit affects the EU less, and they have more ports!
09/12/2020 09:11:21 0 0
bbc
Probably because the coronavirus restrictions are stopping passenger traffic - simple supply and demand! They won't run a full schedule just for freight.
09/12/2020 10:51:31 0 0
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Mr Lion, don't mention this to the remainers, any problems in our country is of course the fault of Brexit, I heard that the cull of 40.000 turkeys was the fault of Brexit, let in the dreaded bird flu, that Nigel Farage has a lot to answer for, what about Turkey's Rights, Cherie (Blessed) Blair should take up their case in the court of Eu farces she should gobble this up no problem
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DSA
08/12/2020 19:05:10 10 21
bbc
Good old BBC just cannot go a day without giving the remainers something to go at.

As they like the EU so much, is there any chance of the BBC relocating to France and becoming a subscription channel?

If it happened they would have very few UK subscribers.
65
08/12/2020 19:13:19 1 0
bbc
Otherwise known as 'facts'?
47
08/12/2020 19:05:30 9 13
bbc
Boycott this company
66
08/12/2020 19:13:32 8 4
bbc
Yes, buy my steam powered car with stilton wheels
It's fired with blocks of compressed dried unpicked soft fruits
61
08/12/2020 19:11:45 13 11
bbc
What you voted for boys and girl. Wait until it's a shortage of food and you start pointing fingers at....the mirror?
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kay
08/12/2020 19:13:39 0 5
bbc
Or due to coronavirus..
91
08/12/2020 19:18:22 0 0
bbc
What were they saying...months ago, ah yes, all things brexit will be blamed on covid. Well-done, you are this first....?
09/12/2020 11:14:47 0 0
bbc
Covid going strong since March and here we are, all with food still on the table and goods in the shops. But come January, if that changes, it'll be down to Covid. Lols.
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08/12/2020 19:03:07 381 68
bbc
The answer to that, which they appear to have already have planned is to just close the UK plant. Same for Nissan and AIRBUS et.al The UK is about to lose its status as a gateway to a 400 million person plus market and it looks likely that the new US administration sees the EU as the future. So, over the next few years the UK will drift into irrelevance unless Boris panics and rushes to Brussels.
68
08/12/2020 19:13:46 141 33
bbc
Well said
09/12/2020 14:34:34 0 0
bbc
You are spot on but BoJo is so full of sovereignty he will need to buy two seats on the plane and it might take a while to get to Brussels!
57
08/12/2020 19:09:11 3 5
bbc
Yes, you wonder why one of the most successful companies in the World have not stockpiled millions of spare parts.
69
08/12/2020 19:14:21 4 0
bbc
Because it isn't the 1970s and manufacturing doesn't work like that any more, if it wants to be competitive/survive.
166
08/12/2020 19:52:15 1 0
bbc
I'm pretty sure howannoying was using sarcasm to make a point...
70
08/12/2020 19:14:24 0 4
bbc
What might be the difference between the Welsh and the French port workers NOTHING
“Billionaire Sir Jim Ratcliffe, a Leave campaigner in the run-up to the 2016 Brexit referendum, has confirmed a new 4x4 car will be built in France”

- this just typifies the deceit of Brexit supporters and utter contempt they have for this country.
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71
08/12/2020 19:14:27 28 55
bbc
Neither Brexit nor your 'quote' are mentioned in the article to which you've commented, therefore would hope the BBC remove your off-topic comment shortly, in accordance with their rules.
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08/12/2020 19:24:27 29 11
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That obviously hit a raw nerve with you. Shame on you and all Brexit supporters. You have and will continue to damage this great country. A country which seems to be headed for disintegration....something I never thought I would see in my lifetime...shame on you all.
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08/12/2020 19:30:33 22 7
bbc
Can I ask that you read the article which clearer states that stockpiling due to Brexit is a contributing factor? No doubt you were as diligent in researching before casting your vote in 2016. Project fear is rapidly becoming project fact.
145
08/12/2020 19:43:43 9 1
bbc
Of course this is negatively impacted by Brexit, just ask anyone who works inside Honda. Can say no more sorry!
147
08/12/2020 19:45:54 4 0
bbc
You should read more carefully- part of the problem is attributed to stock piling because of the risk of a no deal Brexit sixth line down.
153
08/12/2020 19:46:55 8 1
bbc
Ahh brexit supporters... always trying to hide the truth.
188
08/12/2020 19:59:04 1 1
bbc
The truth always hurts...brexiters
201
08/12/2020 20:03:47 1 0
bbc
The "quote" comes from this story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55236852 - highly relevant and on-topic to a story about shifting production patterns in the motor industry.

HM
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08/12/2020 20:07:32 2 0
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I seem to recall that calls for the fictitious '£350m a week' going back into the NHS was never removed from the side of the bus even after the claim was proved to be a falsehood.
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08/12/2020 20:11:32 1 0
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Always avoid the awkward truth.
58
08/12/2020 19:09:15 110 12
bbc
We had all those things when we were members of the EU. You fell for the lie that we didn't have control.
72
08/12/2020 19:14:57 11 72
bbc
Free movement for ALL EU citizens is one of the pillar(k)s of the EU regardless of their past behaviour. Freedom without responsibility!
308
08/12/2020 21:10:11 30 2
bbc
No, it isn't. Either you're lying, or you were lied to and were stupid enough not to check.
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Bob
08/12/2020 21:51:48 21 0
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"Free movement for ALL EU citizens is one of the pillar(k)s of the EU regardless of their past."

The EU’s 2004 citizenship directive makes it clear that the free movement of people within the EU is not an unqualified right and can be restricted on grounds of “public policy, public security or public health”. This means that serious offenders can be denied entry and the right to live in Britain.
489
08/12/2020 22:38:44 6 0
bbc
Did you know that in Belgium, citizens from other EU countries can be asked to leave if they haven't got a job after three months? Did you know that we could have had such a law as well, but chose not to. No? I thought not.
797
09/12/2020 05:53:07 0 0
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you mix things up! free movement as free to cross the border is still possible! an EU criminal will present at the border and will gain access easier after brexit(no police sharing information)! what they cannot do is to rent a house, open a bank account- but since they are criminals this is not what they will do anyway!
61
08/12/2020 19:11:45 13 11
bbc
What you voted for boys and girl. Wait until it's a shortage of food and you start pointing fingers at....the mirror?
73
08/12/2020 19:15:04 0 0
bbc
Try reading the article.
Amazing the number of "intelligentsia" who can't even read a simple article.
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Ian
08/12/2020 19:15:08 8 4
bbc
Covid, Brexit ... all will destroy the car industry in this country.

We've already seen thousands out of work, car factories shut down and mass unemployment.
372
08/12/2020 21:45:44 6 1
bbc
Covid was just an opportune moment for the creators of this chaos to hide under the blankets and hope it would all go away .
75
08/12/2020 19:15:16 80 19
bbc
Another Brexit benefit.
435
08/12/2020 22:12:59 60 9
bbc
Brexit Benefit is an oxymoron
76
08/12/2020 19:15:42 3 10
bbc
You could have some sympathy if Honda hadn't already said they were closing their UK plant even before Brexit.

Once Japan signed a trade deal with the EU, the UK plant lost it's usefulness.

Buy a Nissan built in Sunderland or a Toyota built in Derby instead.
98
08/12/2020 19:20:15 0 0
bbc
Not just the UK plant but all the EU Honda plants too. Number of foreign-owned car plants in Japan = 0.
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Sam
08/12/2020 19:09:36 22 20
bbc
Could, potentially cause a parts shortage if things that might happen potentially lead to production not being as high as it might have been if UK had stayed in EU.

What a load of tosh.

How about poor logistics planning and lack of reillience in just in time system fails to anticipate increased demand resulting in unnecessary production impacts.

Bye bye supply chain director.
77
08/12/2020 19:15:47 22 11
bbc
Any reasons they operate this way genius? Can they store these supply parts in your house perhaps, your family could handle the parts in and out for free?
I think we need a new vaccine...an intelligence vax as it seems people are getting low IQ rates lately!
78
08/12/2020 19:16:05 178 22
bbc
I see Jim Ratcliffe has followed Dyson by exporting British jobs after campaigning for Brexit. Of course - they can come and go as they please to make their cars. The people who were duped into voting for what these people said was a bright new tomorrow are stuck here. With remain voters/campaigners. If you think life is uncomfortable now, I have new for you. We'll make sure you grow to hate it.
368
08/12/2020 21:42:46 102 7
bbc
You're right.
Instead of building a new factory specific to his business' requirements and train his work force with tailored skills in the UK, away from all those nasty EU regulations and trade arrangements with other countries, taking advantage of all those free trade agreements we'll be signing with the USA and high growth economies like China & India; it looks like he's sticking with the EU
425
08/12/2020 22:10:14 2 6
bbc
Who will buy these crappy Landy knock-offs anyway? If it isn’t electric it just won’t sell. We have passed the peak of petrol and diesel burning car sales now so unless he sticks a fuel cell or batteries in it will never see the light of day.
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DSA
08/12/2020 19:05:10 10 21
bbc
Good old BBC just cannot go a day without giving the remainers something to go at.

As they like the EU so much, is there any chance of the BBC relocating to France and becoming a subscription channel?

If it happened they would have very few UK subscribers.
79
08/12/2020 19:16:19 1 0
bbc
Like Brexiteer Sir Jim Ratcliffe you mean
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KR
08/12/2020 19:14:54 0 14
bbc
Scaremongering.
44
08/12/2020 19:04:10 230 501
bbc
You know Brexit hasn't been mentioned anywhere in this article?

An article written on the BBC News website often labeled as an anti-brexit haven.

Don't let the truth get in the way though!

Perhaps you can also post your incorrect anti-brexit propaganda on one of the many actual Brexit HYS's also running on here?

Just a thought...
81
08/12/2020 19:16:52 148 9
bbc
Actually Brexit is mentioned, as a reason that some companies are stockpiling, about halfway down.
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08/12/2020 19:47:03 21 98
bbc
I agree I missed that bit halfway down on the first read.

If I could edit my post I would.

The delays caused initially by a failure to act on the democratic result & then it taking another general election whereby the electorate gave a vast majority to the only party respecting the vote to start the process. And of course the EU only starting negotiations earlier this year.

Once again apologies
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RPH
08/12/2020 23:52:48 9 0
bbc
You actually expect a Brexit fanatic to read an article before commenting on it?
37
08/12/2020 19:00:31 2 3
bbc
Hey Mick - this has NOTHING to do with the vote you genius.

Hahahaha - sounds like you actually can't get over it.
82
08/12/2020 19:16:21 2 1
bbc
Remoaners still moaning. Priceless.
13
08/12/2020 18:51:50 211 53
bbc
It's Christmas come early for the Brexit turkeys.
83
08/12/2020 19:17:11 67 233
bbc
You realise Brexit hasn't been mentioned once in the above article.

I could suggest that you are another remoaner who can't move on following a democratic vote, however instead may I point you in the direction of the various actual Brexit HYS's on here where you can spout such nonsense.
121
08/12/2020 19:31:37 49 2
bbc
Most remainers can read. You appear not to be quite so good at that skill.
130
08/12/2020 19:34:31 43 1
bbc
"while some have looked to stockpile goods before the end of the Brexit transition period." I think it was. Best to actually read the the article first.
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al
08/12/2020 19:40:39 35 0
bbc
Brexit IS mentioned in the article, as a reason why there are delays.
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08/12/2020 19:40:50 36 0
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"The backlog has built up as companies increased orders after the initial pandemic lockdown, while some have looked to stockpile goods before the end of the Brexit transition period."

From the article, about half way down. So yes, Brexit was mentioned in the article.
164
08/12/2020 19:50:31 20 0
bbc
Sorry but it was
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JWG
08/12/2020 20:22:25 41 1
bbc
Tumbleweed. Just think about how many other things you didn’t bother reading about when you voted Leave.
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Wij
08/12/2020 21:02:41 17 0
bbc
Brexit isn't mentioned in the article??? Even for a leaver surely you must be able to use logic to arrive at a likely reason as to why our ports are starting to experience issues? Or should we just say it will get better and ignore it, our ports aren't functioning, but at least we'll take back control of them...and we'll have lots more fish...yum
315
08/12/2020 21:13:06 28 0
bbc
Congratulations on demonstrating the ability of the average brexiteer to garner information from a source. Just read the headline did you?
369
08/12/2020 21:44:04 9 0
bbc
Russian troll.
421
08/12/2020 22:08:45 12 0
bbc
Yes it has. Read it again, numpty
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RPH
09/12/2020 00:15:32 8 0
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Apart from the part that mentioned Brexit. God, can't you lot be honest about anything?
660
09/12/2020 00:30:39 6 0
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It wasn't democratic! A 17.5 million FPTP "win" of our 67 million electorate was derisorily absurd. We remainers will never shut up about that! Nor stop fighting to undo the damage of Brexit!
981
09/12/2020 07:52:01 0 0
bbc
Yes it has. May I respectfully suggest you actually read the article.
61
08/12/2020 19:11:45 13 11
bbc
What you voted for boys and girl. Wait until it's a shortage of food and you start pointing fingers at....the mirror?
84
08/12/2020 19:17:17 0 0
bbc
Shortage for you too then as well..is that your desire?
09/12/2020 11:16:26 0 0
bbc
No, that's probably why the OP voted remain. And they wonder why brexiteers are stereotyped as stupid.
85
08/12/2020 19:17:19 3 8
bbc
"just in time" Rubbish. They have a few days worth of parts at least.
86
08/12/2020 19:17:37 3 11
bbc
It should not bother Honda as they are already closing the plant down next year.
With jit parts all you need to do is factor in the potential delays, that might mean adding an extra day or week. So no real problems for any business with common sense!
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LG
08/12/2020 19:00:02 21 11
bbc
Based on... er lies!
87
08/12/2020 19:17:45 2 0
bbc
NO BASED UPON THE MOSTR VOTES YOU OBVIOUSLY DID NOT GET OUT OF A NICE WARM BED TO VOTE AT YOU POLLING STATION
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Sam
08/12/2020 19:09:36 22 20
bbc
Could, potentially cause a parts shortage if things that might happen potentially lead to production not being as high as it might have been if UK had stayed in EU.

What a load of tosh.

How about poor logistics planning and lack of reillience in just in time system fails to anticipate increased demand resulting in unnecessary production impacts.

Bye bye supply chain director.
88
08/12/2020 19:17:53 8 1
bbc
Clearly someone who has never run a supply chain. Brexit and JIT are incompatible for car companies. End of UK commodity car manufacturing - no point in making them in the UK when you can make them in EU (ask Jim Ratcliffe)
43
08/12/2020 19:03:29 14 18
bbc
Oh dear!
Another HYS on Brexit although it seems this has more to do with "a vehicle booking system" at Felixstowe, to name one Port.
The simple fact is that the BBC is against Brexit. Rightly or wrongly there was a Referendum in 2016. The people voted in huge numbers. Live with the decision. In life you have to deal with things you don't like and make the best of it.
89
08/12/2020 19:18:03 1 7
bbc
The problem is nothing to with Brexit but the fact that it involves ports gives the remoaners another cheap opportunity to tell their lies about us leaving.
42
08/12/2020 19:03:28 7 19
bbc
EU agreed trade deal with Japan which undermined Swindon's Honda plant which is to close making all their loyal workers redundant. Honda is another EU disaster NOT a Brexit one.
90
08/12/2020 19:18:08 1 2
bbc
Spot on. Any car industry knowledge and you know this.
09/12/2020 11:11:19 0 0
bbc
Trade deals have to be unanimously agreed by heads of state of each EU member country. So either this was agreed after we left so we couldn't reject it, or it was agreed by our head of state.

Any EU knowledge and you'd know this.
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kay
08/12/2020 19:13:39 0 5
bbc
Or due to coronavirus..
91
08/12/2020 19:18:22 0 0
bbc
What were they saying...months ago, ah yes, all things brexit will be blamed on covid. Well-done, you are this first....?
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MGL
08/12/2020 19:18:47 53 11
bbc
Another cock-up...who will take real responsibility for the Brexit shambles?
09/12/2020 09:58:20 3 4
bbc
Get over it. You lost the biggest democratic vote in our history. Remain is the minority position in the UK. Leave is the majority.
We are leaving the fake utopia of the EU.
40
08/12/2020 19:01:37 5 16
bbc
only a matter of time before the panicking remainers are Buying up all the toilet paper again .
93
08/12/2020 19:18:55 3 1
bbc
Oh the irony! It was the ill-educated conspiracy theory-loving brexit voters who were doing that! Remainers are too well educated to do something so selfish and ridiculous.
94
08/12/2020 19:18:57 182 28
bbc
Brexiteers will be imagining I'm sure that they can all retrain as fishermen and baristas in coffee shops.

I mean on an island of 65 million consumers, who needs manufacturing or industry or paying jobs for hard working families? And if all the jobs go to Europe taking commercial knowledge and investment - who cares? Oh and if we want to buy anything back it might cost a lot more - no problem!
112
08/12/2020 19:27:52 26 150
bbc
due to FOM and Illegals there are 69 million + 1 million illegals here currently .... have you not seen all the Green Fields being concreted over and job insecurity and low pay in the EU UK of the last 12 years ?
The Jams are the majority and we will now decide all democratic votes .. incl. getting rid of bad Govts.... and those that have watched as the JAMS rose to be the majority in the UK.
232
08/12/2020 20:19:53 7 11
bbc
Whilst we have been in the EU most manufacturing jobs have gone already over the last 47 years.
414
08/12/2020 22:05:20 20 2
bbc
Indeed. We can always sell each other burger meals and haircuts.
760
09/12/2020 04:58:29 2 0
bbc
What manufacturing, you try and buy something that is'nt made or owned by a foreign concern.
828
09/12/2020 06:42:42 0 0
bbc
The greater mass of manuafacturing & fishing in UK went east (starting with the EU) in the 70' & 80's. We have now become a nation of service industry. Yes, there will be casualties of no deal brexit in industries like cars but, we buy masses of cars from the EU.
916
09/12/2020 07:32:28 1 0
bbc
We've not had manufacturing of note since the 60s, unions destroyed it and Labour govts taking US back handers for F111s, that never appeared, killing off the TSR2 and original Harrier Jump Jet design (no one has matched that design since btw).
09/12/2020 14:38:15 0 0
bbc
Bet they make the coffee with fish heads?
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08/12/2020 19:03:07 381 68
bbc
The answer to that, which they appear to have already have planned is to just close the UK plant. Same for Nissan and AIRBUS et.al The UK is about to lose its status as a gateway to a 400 million person plus market and it looks likely that the new US administration sees the EU as the future. So, over the next few years the UK will drift into irrelevance unless Boris panics and rushes to Brussels.
95
08/12/2020 19:18:57 3 25
bbc
Check your facts LucyLu
55
08/12/2020 19:08:53 84 11
bbc
Years back, my old company went on to a "Just in time" component supply system. It was rapidly renamed "Just too late" by the production staff.
96
08/12/2020 19:18:58 18 2
bbc
Which is why UK car manufacturing was taken over by the Japanese who know how to do it (and what prevents it from working, i.e. Brexit)
41
08/12/2020 19:03:07 381 68
bbc
The answer to that, which they appear to have already have planned is to just close the UK plant. Same for Nissan and AIRBUS et.al The UK is about to lose its status as a gateway to a 400 million person plus market and it looks likely that the new US administration sees the EU as the future. So, over the next few years the UK will drift into irrelevance unless Boris panics and rushes to Brussels.
97
08/12/2020 19:19:17 7 33
bbc
A supply chain problem arises (as they do) and out comes remoaner project fear, lol.
505
08/12/2020 22:49:57 12 0
bbc
I heard on the radio the other day that many EU road-hauliers are paid by the kilometre, not by the hour. So if they start finding that there are big delays involved in crossing the Channel (due to new customs checks) they may just stop bothering. Which presumably will mean less choice and higher prices?
937
09/12/2020 07:40:46 0 0
bbc
What colour blinkers are you wearing today?

This is project reality. You won't be able to deny the massive damage being done by Brexit forever.
76
08/12/2020 19:15:42 3 10
bbc
You could have some sympathy if Honda hadn't already said they were closing their UK plant even before Brexit.

Once Japan signed a trade deal with the EU, the UK plant lost it's usefulness.

Buy a Nissan built in Sunderland or a Toyota built in Derby instead.
98
08/12/2020 19:20:15 0 0
bbc
Not just the UK plant but all the EU Honda plants too. Number of foreign-owned car plants in Japan = 0.
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Moz
08/12/2020 19:21:43 135 18
bbc
I would imagine all the Brexiters will be giving it "Well just buy British cars then!" - yeah good luck with that.....
125
08/12/2020 19:33:31 88 14
bbc
Bring back the Austin Allegro perhaps?...

With or without the square steering wheel ?
426
08/12/2020 22:11:44 9 1
bbc
What about Jaguar, Land Rover then? Oh yeah, owned by Tata of India and depending on the EU for 40% of their components. Johnson needs to do that deal or UK car making is toast.
100
08/12/2020 19:22:11 8 3
bbc
JIT is standard in the car industry, our factories have been highly productive and with parts moving around all over Europe and the world, this has not been a problem until the ports fail. This article is about the ports failing and not about Brexit, although there is a scenario where it might be soon.