Under-18s banned from lottery scratchcards in crackdown
08/12/2020 | news | business | 635
The ban from next October is part of "a major review" of laws to protect children and vulnerable people.
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08/12/2020 10:38:13 4 23
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Welcome to the Nanny State.......
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08/12/2020 10:43:56 5 3
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And? Some people need that level of support and guidance. Just because you don't doesn't mean others don't and/or shouldn't.
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08/12/2020 10:43:59 1 5
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Spot on
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08/12/2020 10:49:41 0 2
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Mary Poppins state - with it's magical thinking about how C19 doesn't transmit in supermarkets.
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08/12/2020 11:46:31 1 0
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It's just as well that there are no people addicted to gambling, just as there are no people addicted to drugs, alcohol and smoking in your world.
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08/12/2020 10:38:42 79 3
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Better late than never.

The mantra is "Please gamble responsibly but please do gamble."
Clown your not being forced to gamble Removed
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08/12/2020 14:06:59 0 0
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When the FUN stops, stop.
Remember the most important part is that gambling is fun.
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08/12/2020 10:39:24 4 4
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Next October??

It’s not a problem between now and then then is it not!
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08/12/2020 10:39:34 14 5
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It’s about time the gaming industry paid taxes and levies for all the mental health damage they cause.

On line gambling 24/7/365 and human dopamine addiction is crippling and costly to all of us.

As bad as alcohol dependency
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08/12/2020 10:42:17 8 8
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If everyone paid tax based on how much cost they caused to the Gov then the rich would be paying nothing and the poorest would pay the most.....

I'd welcome it.
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08/12/2020 10:42:22 2 1
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And if someone has both, they're in trouble. I did, and I was.
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08/12/2020 11:10:21 3 1
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Worse than alcohol dependancy I'd say. Although it eventually ruins lives it has short, medium and long term loss of earnings/assets because booze is relatively cheap. With gambling everything can be lost almost instantaneously - even the roof over a family's head within no time at all. Betting shops are bad but at least they privide some employment and a meeting place, internet gambling is evil.
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08/12/2020 10:39:48 3 2
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Life is just one big gamble.
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08/12/2020 10:41:01 91 8
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We could cut gambling problems overall if there were advertisements revealing how gambling money helps the likes of Denise Coates take home a ridiculous annual 9 figure salary.
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08/12/2020 10:51:18 22 52
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Not everyone is motivated by politics of envy.

I'd say an increase in start-up gambling firms is a more likely outcome.
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08/12/2020 10:54:08 9 5
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At least it is Mrs Coates' own business, she pays all the correct tax here in the UK and she supports a lot of local projects and charities.
It's not how I would want to earn my living but nor would I be happy with banning it.
Mind you, I have never gambled in my entire life.
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08/12/2020 13:18:59 0 0
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Good luck to her if she's found a legal way to milk mugs.
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08/12/2020 14:35:58 0 0
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even you seem to know this
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08/12/2020 18:20:45 0 0
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Not sure that your target audience will stop gambling.
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08/12/2020 18:21:59 0 0
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Who is Denise Coates? I suspect if the nine-figure salary were yours, you’d find it entirely justified.
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08/12/2020 10:41:09 239 10
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I work at a supermarket. I find it sad when customers spend £60 on lottery. Then use Healthy Start vouchers to redeem on milk, fruit and veg. Healthy Start vouchers are given to parents with children under 4 if they are on certain benefits - when child goes to school, they claim free school meals.
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08/12/2020 10:43:06 26 56
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But those parents will presumably be over 18 and therefor not prevented from continuing to buy tickets.....
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08/12/2020 11:11:10 41 10
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So what you're saying is benefit culture needs to be phased out?
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08/12/2020 11:15:23 27 4
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Son used to say people tried to use vouchers to buy alcohol in shop he worked at. Alcohol and gambling are both addictive. Current controls are FAR too lax.
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08/12/2020 11:18:20 40 5
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Don't forget the fags the cost coming from the DHSS hand outs. Go past any food bank and see people finishing off theirs fags before going to get the free food. Like walking past a carpet made from fags.
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08/12/2020 11:35:02 15 2
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that absolutely needs looking into, there is no way that should be allowed to happen - it's effectively state funded gambling and theft.
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08/12/2020 11:41:44 7 0
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And if those people win millions and don't tell the authorities, they can still be subsidised by far poorer people.
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08/12/2020 11:41:44 34 0
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I agree, but it's not just gambling. My wife works in a school; there are a few kids who come to school in tatty old clothes and get free meals, yet their parents turn up with new phones, new tattoos, smoking, (even plastic surgery in couple of cases). None of that's cheap.

It's the 'me me me' culture, even at the expense of their children, that's the problem, not gambling in and of itself.
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08/12/2020 11:42:26 6 3
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Don't forget a lot of people participate in lottery syndicates where there may be a large number of members all putting a relatively small (£1 - £2) in each, but one person buys all the tickets. My office one used to buy £100 a week between them. How would you plan on checking that ?
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08/12/2020 11:43:29 7 10
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We need to be careful not to descend into lazy thinking there though. Just because some people find a way to screw with a system, doesnt mean that everyone is doing so. Vast majority on benefits are struggling to survive. Yes they might smoke, but smoking is highly addictive. To simply discard our concerns because they smoke is as lazy as saying NHS has too many middle managers.
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08/12/2020 11:47:45 2 0
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Shh don't tell Marcus
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08/12/2020 12:24:23 8 0
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Helen.

Not just you, many do the same

But food vouchers, healthy start ones i find hard to understand when you go to the homes of recipients, find the latest Sky box and 65" screen in the lounge as well as play stations and a 2 year old car on the drive. plus a holiday booked for next year.
Hate the idea of "means tested" benefits, but its the working tax payer funding this
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08/12/2020 13:05:08 1 2
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When Jesus said "you will always have the poor among you" - it wasn't that there would always be poverty - it was some people cannot be helped and cannot help themselves out of it

People persist in self-destructive and selfish behaviour for a variety of reasons not discussable within 400 characters I'm afraid
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08/12/2020 23:04:15 0 0
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So the most rated comment is the one that missed the whole point of the article - addiction?
If someone on benefit spends £60, that’s what this is
Instant gratification
Is it right? No
Maybe instead you could ask the lottery to support the addiction funding the Gov has eroded over prev 10yrs?
Or, have some signage all around the kiosk with numbers to assist this problem?
Or judge, whatever suits
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09/12/2020 07:53:51 1 0
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This is an indication of why they bet. There is just a chance that one lucky ticket might stop their family's poverty .
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08/12/2020 10:41:36 28 5
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The amount of money that teenagers (and adults!) spend on "skins" and "rare" items for a video game is crazy.

Back in the day of arcades and coin-ops a lot of video games were deliberately made both addictive AND almost impossible to finish on just one coin:

Ghouls and Ghosts, Space Invaders, Galaga, Galaxian, Gauntlet, Pac Man etc were all designed to make loadsamoney.
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08/12/2020 11:00:29 11 3
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".... were all designed to make loadsamoney." Of course! The people who run these things are not charities, or benevolent societies - they are in it to make shedloads of money and they do. The pity of it is that so many seem to believe that one day (which never comes) they as a punter will win millions. They won't - it doesn't work that way.
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08/12/2020 13:40:09 1 0
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Agree about coin-ops but at least you get a game in return. Interestingly pinball machines were banned in the US until 1970s as the free ball element was seen as gambling
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08/12/2020 10:41:54 2 12
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If your too weak to stop gambling why should they stop it for the rest of us
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08/12/2020 10:41:55 2 2
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Bet this review doesnt go nearly far enough. There will be predictable pushback from sporting industries who get paid vast amounts of money by gambling firms. How will it work with cross border competitions like european football for example?
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08/12/2020 10:42:08 3 7
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You can marry, join the army before you are 18, but cannot buy a lotto ticket... Buzzard.
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08/12/2020 10:43:58 3 4
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You can have sex at 16 but cant buy porn until you are 18......
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08/12/2020 10:42:15 6 2
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A sensible move, however we must not confuse banning something with preventing it.
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08/12/2020 10:39:34 14 5
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It’s about time the gaming industry paid taxes and levies for all the mental health damage they cause.

On line gambling 24/7/365 and human dopamine addiction is crippling and costly to all of us.

As bad as alcohol dependency
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08/12/2020 10:42:17 8 8
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If everyone paid tax based on how much cost they caused to the Gov then the rich would be paying nothing and the poorest would pay the most.....

I'd welcome it.
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08/12/2020 10:42:20 41 14
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Yet next year 16 year old’s will be able to vote in Scotland and Wales; are they children only when they’re making bad decisions?
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08/12/2020 10:49:01 30 4
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and yet if the are arrested they have to call mummy or daddy. Maybe mummy or daddy will help them to vote.
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08/12/2020 10:53:43 14 1
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Should they be able to? How much maturity and experience of life did you have at 16?
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08/12/2020 10:54:41 18 2
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Both labour in wales and the SNP are desperate for votes so of course they will give it to children. Only the UK parliament should be able to change the voting age.
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08/12/2020 10:51:54 7 2
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" are they children only when they’re making bad decisions"

Not when the SNP and Welsh Labour need all the help they can get, no.
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08/12/2020 11:44:18 1 0
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Old enough to pay taxes, old enough to have a vote and say on the elected govt. Gambling controls and limitations and max bets etc should apply to all regardless of age, then 16 or 18 for gambling would be irrelevant.
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08/12/2020 12:13:00 5 2
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Certainly there are some very immature 16 year olds, so allowing them to vote when most of them have no interest in politics and probably can't even tell you who there leaders are. Its a typical socialist ploy to get more votes by brainwashing them with promises that will not help the majority of them
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08/12/2020 12:15:35 0 1
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If gambling companies gave money to Welsh and Scottish nationalists they could keep the age at 16.
Only because the country is being run by wee Jimmy Krankie! :p Removed
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08/12/2020 12:31:11 0 1
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Smoking and Drinking have medical reasons to delay after 16 - brain still developing and all that - although 18 seems a reasonable trade-off.

Gambling, because it's addictive, can lead to anti-social behaviours, but I wonder how many problem gamblers started at the age of 16, or picked it up later in life? I presume there is some study on this to back up the suggested rule change?
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08/12/2020 10:39:34 14 5
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It’s about time the gaming industry paid taxes and levies for all the mental health damage they cause.

On line gambling 24/7/365 and human dopamine addiction is crippling and costly to all of us.

As bad as alcohol dependency
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08/12/2020 10:42:22 2 1
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And if someone has both, they're in trouble. I did, and I was.
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08/12/2020 10:38:42 79 3
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Better late than never.

The mantra is "Please gamble responsibly but please do gamble."
Clown your not being forced to gamble Removed
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08/12/2020 10:56:18 9 2
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No but it is easy to get addicted.
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08/12/2020 11:03:18 12 2
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That's like saying to a victim of domestic abuse, "you're not forced to stay in that relationship."

But they are often being manipulated by their partner and this is essentially what is happening with gambling addiction.
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08/12/2020 11:04:38 10 5
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Clown, you're not capable of using spellcheck....
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08/12/2020 10:54:06 9 2
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You’ve missed the point entirely, it’s about enticement.
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08/12/2020 11:19:15 5 1
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Gambling firms know well how addictive it is for some people and they make millions cynically exploiting this. They also do everything they can to avoid paying if someone is lucky enough to get a substantially large win.
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08/12/2020 11:29:23 3 0
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By saying "Please" you're being invited to do so.

People should be forced to spell correctly.
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08/12/2020 11:44:02 0 0
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If you're a gambling addict, you may refuse help as you may worry that your 'lucky numbers' may have made you a fortune if you gave up gambling.
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08/12/2020 12:11:46 1 0
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Then make all addictive drugs legal because some people can manage their usage. Will you sort out the consequences?
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08/12/2020 10:42:35 3 2
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It won't make a bean of a difference as I have hardly had to ask for ID when anyone buys lottery tickets and scratchcards.
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08/12/2020 10:41:09 239 10
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I work at a supermarket. I find it sad when customers spend £60 on lottery. Then use Healthy Start vouchers to redeem on milk, fruit and veg. Healthy Start vouchers are given to parents with children under 4 if they are on certain benefits - when child goes to school, they claim free school meals.
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08/12/2020 10:43:06 26 56
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But those parents will presumably be over 18 and therefor not prevented from continuing to buy tickets.....
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08/12/2020 10:45:24 90 4
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Just saying, if they can afford £60 on lottery, then they can afford fruit, veg and milk.
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08/12/2020 11:13:57 8 1
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Correct - the law is an ass!
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08/12/2020 17:12:55 0 0
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State the bleeding obvious
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08/12/2020 10:43:45 25 20
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So under 18 can't buy s lottery ticket that just effects them, but over 16 can vote in the Welsh assembly election and possibly vote in a disastrous labour government that wreck the NHS, education and business. It's madness
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08/12/2020 10:45:54 19 11
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Voting can change things for the better. Gambling rarely does.
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08/12/2020 10:38:13 4 23
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Welcome to the Nanny State.......
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08/12/2020 10:43:56 5 3
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And? Some people need that level of support and guidance. Just because you don't doesn't mean others don't and/or shouldn't.
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08/12/2020 10:52:58 0 2
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My issue is that more & more people are considered 'vulnerable'.

What has society come to if the majority appear unable to function & contribute without major support? (55% receive some form of benefit).

We may as well give up now.
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08/12/2020 10:42:08 3 7
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You can marry, join the army before you are 18, but cannot buy a lotto ticket... Buzzard.
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08/12/2020 10:43:58 3 4
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You can have sex at 16 but cant buy porn until you are 18......
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08/12/2020 10:53:21 0 2
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You do know the difference between the two don't you?

Pornography isn't the 'Beginner's Guide to Sex' manual.
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08/12/2020 10:38:13 4 23
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Welcome to the Nanny State.......
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08/12/2020 10:43:59 1 5
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Spot on
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08/12/2020 10:44:10 67 3
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The lottery itself fuels it. I remember well the first Saturday I ran, and that was it for the week. Now it seems like the odds have grown and so has the stake money. Multiple games and scratch cards galore.
It used to be fun, now it has just become mired in greed.
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08/12/2020 10:57:34 40 2
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Your right!
There are too many lottery games. The more disciplined limit themselves to just one game. Only an addict or fool would play every single one.
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08/12/2020 12:13:07 4 1
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The National Lottery - A tax on people who can't do maths
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08/12/2020 12:49:09 4 0
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When the National Lottery first started I bought 1 ticket a week at £1.
When the ticket price doubled to £2 I stopped.
Instead I now do a local hospice lottery at £1 per week.The maximum payout is £1,000,but even if I don't win I know that the money is spent locally on a service I may need someday.
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08/12/2020 13:31:04 1 0
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I bought a ticket in the first lottery, just to work out the odds. I then bought another a few weeks later when there was a big roll over and then nothing since 1994.

You could say I have kicked the habit.
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08/12/2020 10:44:54 10 3
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This has needed reviewing for some time.

Next we need to remove the adverts on live football before kick off with a guy looking right into the camera and saying "BET NOW".

If I was a gambling addict who loved football, I don't know how I'd break the cycle with adverts like this. Some yellow banner at the bottom of the screen certainly isn't going to help.
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08/12/2020 10:44:56 4 7
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It's a start, now ban all gambling and sponsorship advertising. Nobody who owns theese kind of companies should become a millionaire out of making peoples who are often desperate even more miserable. I read on the BBC not too long ago about one of Britan richest people who owend one of the big betting companies. She should feel ashamed living off what is in effect theft.
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08/12/2020 10:47:36 4 8
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Silly person why stop my fun because people are too weak to stop
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08/12/2020 10:45:14 7 10
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So you can legally have sex and produce a child at 16, go to work and get killed at 16 but you can't buy a lottery ticket at 16. Any pretence that this shower have lost the plot is completely shattered. What next? A vicar being convicted for selling a raffle ticket to a 16 year old at the Church Fete?
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08/12/2020 10:51:40 1 2
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You can get killed before 16. In fact you can get killed any age once you born. All gambling adverts, sponsorship etc should be banned. Then families will not go without food if there are less addicts. Yet more good news to protect you young who can't but alcohol and tobacco products. Well done.
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08/12/2020 10:48:39 0 1
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Depends on what the prize is !!!
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08/12/2020 10:50:06 0 1
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Get killed at 16? Do you mean the forces? Wrong, minimum age for operational service is 18.

You can't buy alcohol or cigarettes until you're older than 16 either. But don't you worry, its all the Government's fault, they've lost control.

I wish there was a face palm emoticon.
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08/12/2020 11:17:19 0 1
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As someone who was 16.... Sex, good. Army, its a job. Lotto, not bothered. Vicar, whats that?
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08/12/2020 10:43:06 26 56
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But those parents will presumably be over 18 and therefor not prevented from continuing to buy tickets.....
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08/12/2020 10:45:24 90 4
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Just saying, if they can afford £60 on lottery, then they can afford fruit, veg and milk.
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08/12/2020 12:03:28 2 10
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A sweeping generalisation based on your supposed encounter with 1 person. Sounds fair
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08/12/2020 15:47:42 1 0
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Or maybe they are just desperate and simply hoping they will pick up a winning l ticket or scratch card so they can release themselves from under the 'poverty line'. A vicious circle I know but it is hard for most of families who rely on benefits. As always it is the small percentage which take the p*ss and tarnishes the rest in the same demographic.
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08/12/2020 10:45:37 129 7
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When you have seen at first hand the damage that gambling addition can do, restrictions on advertising and promotion cannot come soon enough. From my personal point of view it should be treated like tobacco and kept out of sight.
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08/12/2020 10:48:27 16 148
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Thats your fault not mine so stop telling me how to live my life
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08/12/2020 13:02:40 0 0
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Of course, brush it under the rug. Why didn't anyone else think of that?

It might give you a feel-good because you don't see it happening, but it is still happening and far from addresses the problem.
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08/12/2020 14:16:06 1 0
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Until 1961 they were kept out of sight and betting shops were illegal. But gambling didn't stop it was just an illegal activity run by criminals who were a more aggressive in getting money owed to them. Removing slot machines and restricted hours of operating for betting shops might help along with a clamp down on online gambling. Hiding it will only make it more attractive to some.
have you seen the damage cars do, marriage does (and you can do that at 16)...if you stupid enough not to be able control your habits then your own problem. As usual the do gooders and interfeerers like to impose their will on others Removed
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08/12/2020 10:43:45 25 20
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So under 18 can't buy s lottery ticket that just effects them, but over 16 can vote in the Welsh assembly election and possibly vote in a disastrous labour government that wreck the NHS, education and business. It's madness
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08/12/2020 10:45:54 19 11
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Voting can change things for the better. Gambling rarely does.
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08/12/2020 10:47:21 4 4
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When has it
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08/12/2020 10:53:00 9 1
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Only as long as you are adult enough to vote. Which is why 18 is a sensible agr.
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08/12/2020 10:45:57 39 3
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It's about time the adverts and sponsorship end. It's now almost unavoidable to see some sort of advertising.
It people want to gamble they can, but it's the addicts the gambling companies want, no matter how much they deny it.
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08/12/2020 10:45:54 19 11
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Voting can change things for the better. Gambling rarely does.
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08/12/2020 10:47:21 4 4
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When has it
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08/12/2020 10:47:28 9 5
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Instead of hiving to make a physical trip (making it obvious to those around you) now all you need is an internet connection and it's all too easy to rack up massive losses. To protect younger people online advertising should be significantly cut, credit card use should be stopped and paying for so called 'content' in games (one of the biggest rip off's of all time) should be banned.
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08/12/2020 10:51:32 3 1
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Credit card use was stopped a while ago - keep up.
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08/12/2020 10:53:32 0 6
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And while we are about it let's stop people playing sports because they might get hurt by somebody else!
What about people being responsible for their own actions.
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08/12/2020 10:44:56 4 7
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It's a start, now ban all gambling and sponsorship advertising. Nobody who owns theese kind of companies should become a millionaire out of making peoples who are often desperate even more miserable. I read on the BBC not too long ago about one of Britan richest people who owend one of the big betting companies. She should feel ashamed living off what is in effect theft.
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08/12/2020 10:47:36 4 8
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Silly person why stop my fun because people are too weak to stop
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08/12/2020 10:50:48 2 1
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You are in a minority
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08/12/2020 10:57:03 4 1
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No-one is stopping your fun, unless you are under 18 and by the time this becomes law you will be anyway. Gambling is addictive and while the gambler can do as he/she wishes, what about their dependents? Why should they suffer because of an addiction? Long-term, the gambler never wins, otherwise there would be no gambling, when you think about it.
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08/12/2020 10:48:08 6 5
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Gambling in Scotland - 16 year olds can vote in elections and referendums, get people hooked at an early age, easier to buy votes.
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08/12/2020 10:48:15 55 5
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Gambling is a complete mess. Causes so much damage, yet so much (sports sponsorship and advertising revenue) has become dependant on it.

Has always been a tax on foolishness.
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08/12/2020 10:45:37 129 7
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When you have seen at first hand the damage that gambling addition can do, restrictions on advertising and promotion cannot come soon enough. From my personal point of view it should be treated like tobacco and kept out of sight.
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08/12/2020 10:48:27 16 148
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Thats your fault not mine so stop telling me how to live my life
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08/12/2020 11:12:33 5 5
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OP has just upset a full time Lotto sign ^.
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08/12/2020 12:39:19 7 0
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Nobody is. Under Oven Man's idea you would still be able to gamble - it just wouldn't be advertised publicly. Same as tobacco.
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08/12/2020 17:14:59 0 0
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Your understanding and compassion flows naturally I guess
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selfish - quitter ?
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08/12/2020 10:48:41 12 8
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If U18 can't cope with gambling how on earth can they cope with voting?

We do need to come to terms with that biological maturity has absolutely nothing to do with intellectual or emotional maturity (especially in us men)

In our world intellectual or emotional maturity is the most important thing and the problem for the "snowflake" generation is the education system failed to prepare them at all
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08/12/2020 11:04:23 0 1
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Interesting recent studies showing we don't reach mental maturity until mid-20s.

Agreed, however, that you need to actually learn something along the way. Regulate it, restrict it to some degree, but if people know nothing of the dangers they'll just go mad when they can.

Look at how binge drinking has massively reduced compared to 90s through education campaigns - keep people informed!
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08/12/2020 10:42:20 41 14
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Yet next year 16 year old’s will be able to vote in Scotland and Wales; are they children only when they’re making bad decisions?
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08/12/2020 10:49:01 30 4
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and yet if the are arrested they have to call mummy or daddy. Maybe mummy or daddy will help them to vote.
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08/12/2020 18:31:09 0 0
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The important point in relation to voting is that minors are not prosecuted or sentenced in the same way as adults, and therefore should not be allowed, however indirectly, to vote for laws that will not apply to them. It reduces elections to opinion polls. Power without responsibility in to case of, in this case, Scottish secession from the UK.
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08/12/2020 10:38:13 4 23
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Welcome to the Nanny State.......
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08/12/2020 10:49:41 0 2
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Mary Poppins state - with it's magical thinking about how C19 doesn't transmit in supermarkets.
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08/12/2020 10:50:17 4 8
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About time.

Gambling relaxation - another disastrous policy initiative initiated under the Blair Government
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08/12/2020 10:51:47 2 7
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If the weak cant cope stop trying to tell me what to do
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08/12/2020 10:50:43 6 6
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Denise Coates, the Bet365 chief exec, paid more tax last year than just about anyone else will in their lifetime. Call for gambling restrictions if you want, but let's stop laying into someone who has more than paid her way.

How far is this going to go? Are we going to see investing in stocks and shares be limited to a maximum of £2 per purchase? After all, it's just gambling in another guise.
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08/12/2020 10:53:32 7 2
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How do you know how much tax she paid? She won't be on PAYE, you know! Her tax affairs are between her and HMRC and if she is anything like other hugely-paid people she will have "tax-efficient" systems in place to ensure she pays very little.
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08/12/2020 11:08:50 1 1
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Its a £14bn industry.

I also pay tax, wheres my pat on the back?
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08/12/2020 10:47:36 4 8
bbc
Silly person why stop my fun because people are too weak to stop
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08/12/2020 10:50:48 2 1
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You are in a minority
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08/12/2020 11:00:49 0 4
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I dont care i should be able to spend my money on what i want not what you want me to
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08/12/2020 10:51:06 56 5
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I’ve always found it bemusing that there are different age restrictions on gambling, alcohol and driving. Wouldn’t it make more sense to move them all to 18?

Policing online gambling is a problem. Especially when all you have to do is tick a box.
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08/12/2020 10:41:01 91 8
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We could cut gambling problems overall if there were advertisements revealing how gambling money helps the likes of Denise Coates take home a ridiculous annual 9 figure salary.
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08/12/2020 10:51:18 22 52
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Not everyone is motivated by politics of envy.

I'd say an increase in start-up gambling firms is a more likely outcome.
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08/12/2020 11:12:58 6 1
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It isn't. The market is so hard to break into. Companies like Flutter own PP, Betfair, Skybet and Pokerstars among others. You can't possibly hope to compete with them unless you have a completely revolutionary product (like Betfair did back in the day) or a limitless marketing budget. Startups usually go bust pretty quickly.
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MVS
08/12/2020 10:51:30 3 7
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Either gambling should continue to be legal in this country or it should not.
But this constant tinkering with the rules to prevent fools being parted from their money is yet further infringement of the rights and RESPOSIBILITIES of individuals.
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08/12/2020 11:05:55 2 1
bbc
Infringement of the rights and RESPONSIBILITIES of individuals. I think Covid has proven that people cannot be trusted.
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08/12/2020 10:47:28 9 5
bbc
Instead of hiving to make a physical trip (making it obvious to those around you) now all you need is an internet connection and it's all too easy to rack up massive losses. To protect younger people online advertising should be significantly cut, credit card use should be stopped and paying for so called 'content' in games (one of the biggest rip off's of all time) should be banned.
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08/12/2020 10:51:32 3 1
bbc
Credit card use was stopped a while ago - keep up.
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08/12/2020 12:24:32 1 0
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People just use the credit card to get cash to use for gambling - keep up - this was on the radio months ago.
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08/12/2020 10:45:14 7 10
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So you can legally have sex and produce a child at 16, go to work and get killed at 16 but you can't buy a lottery ticket at 16. Any pretence that this shower have lost the plot is completely shattered. What next? A vicar being convicted for selling a raffle ticket to a 16 year old at the Church Fete?
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08/12/2020 10:51:40 1 2
bbc
You can get killed before 16. In fact you can get killed any age once you born. All gambling adverts, sponsorship etc should be banned. Then families will not go without food if there are less addicts. Yet more good news to protect you young who can't but alcohol and tobacco products. Well done.
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08/12/2020 10:54:51 0 3
bbc
Why stop my fun cos of weak people
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08/12/2020 10:50:17 4 8
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About time.

Gambling relaxation - another disastrous policy initiative initiated under the Blair Government
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08/12/2020 10:51:47 2 7
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If the weak cant cope stop trying to tell me what to do
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08/12/2020 10:52:17 43 4
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Soo.. entering the lottery where you can actually win something is illegal for anyone under 18, but, tis ok for loot boxes, gambling ads on kids apps (10 free spins!!) and a perfectly fine gameplay mechanic to introduce kids of ALL ages! Baffles the mind this contradictory law
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08/12/2020 12:39:30 13 4
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Shouldn't children be learning at school (their parents won't teach them!) about the basics of gambling, how it favours the house, how most people lose money overall and only a small fraction win, and how it is addictive to some. It would include maths, ethics, politics, and more, a great school personal development subject.

Instead they are force fed anti-meat propaganda from Greenpeace.
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Jon
08/12/2020 10:52:55 87 5
bbc
Ban random loot boxes in gaming
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08/12/2020 11:45:33 28 0
bbc
FIFA is the worst for this right now
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08/12/2020 11:55:40 7 0
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Ban paying for them. Random rewards have always been a normal way developers use to keep people playing their games. Paying for loot boxes, that is relatively new. It's down to the publishers who front the money making demands. Developers and publishers are not always the same.
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08/12/2020 10:43:56 5 3
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And? Some people need that level of support and guidance. Just because you don't doesn't mean others don't and/or shouldn't.
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08/12/2020 10:52:58 0 2
bbc
My issue is that more & more people are considered 'vulnerable'.

What has society come to if the majority appear unable to function & contribute without major support? (55% receive some form of benefit).

We may as well give up now.
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08/12/2020 11:04:27 1 2
bbc
55% receive some kind of benefit because firstly the lying gov. call pensions a "benefit" and secondly tightwad businesses pay tiny wages so the gov. has to pay in-work benefits so people can afford to live. Receiving "benefits" is not the same as needing support for, say, an addiction. Don't forget that calling people "vulnerable" does not make them so.
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08/12/2020 10:45:54 19 11
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Voting can change things for the better. Gambling rarely does.
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08/12/2020 10:53:00 9 1
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Only as long as you are adult enough to vote. Which is why 18 is a sensible agr.
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08/12/2020 10:53:17 3 3
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if I said Kay Burley and Beth Rigby
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08/12/2020 10:50:43 6 6
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Denise Coates, the Bet365 chief exec, paid more tax last year than just about anyone else will in their lifetime. Call for gambling restrictions if you want, but let's stop laying into someone who has more than paid her way.

How far is this going to go? Are we going to see investing in stocks and shares be limited to a maximum of £2 per purchase? After all, it's just gambling in another guise.
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08/12/2020 10:53:32 7 2
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How do you know how much tax she paid? She won't be on PAYE, you know! Her tax affairs are between her and HMRC and if she is anything like other hugely-paid people she will have "tax-efficient" systems in place to ensure she pays very little.
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08/12/2020 10:47:28 9 5
bbc
Instead of hiving to make a physical trip (making it obvious to those around you) now all you need is an internet connection and it's all too easy to rack up massive losses. To protect younger people online advertising should be significantly cut, credit card use should be stopped and paying for so called 'content' in games (one of the biggest rip off's of all time) should be banned.
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MVS
08/12/2020 10:53:32 0 6
bbc
And while we are about it let's stop people playing sports because they might get hurt by somebody else!
What about people being responsible for their own actions.
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08/12/2020 10:56:51 0 8
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Exactly i hate these weak people lecturing what is good or bad for me,
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08/12/2020 12:28:27 2 0
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There is a huge net benefit for sport i.e. health, fitness and well-being>> injuries. There is a huge net detriment for gambling.
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08/12/2020 10:53:40 32 3
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Is the Lottery causing high levels of gambling addiction? It's acknowledged that it's low risk.

Poor use of time when issues like FOBTs (which ruin lives) are nowhere near as tightly regulated as they should be despite high levels of scrutiny.

Still not addressed is game loot boxes: a huge gateway to gambling, and yet don't even come under current gambling law. Misplaced priorities as usual.
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08/12/2020 10:42:20 41 14
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Yet next year 16 year old’s will be able to vote in Scotland and Wales; are they children only when they’re making bad decisions?
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08/12/2020 10:53:43 14 1
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Should they be able to? How much maturity and experience of life did you have at 16?
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08/12/2020 10:41:01 91 8
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We could cut gambling problems overall if there were advertisements revealing how gambling money helps the likes of Denise Coates take home a ridiculous annual 9 figure salary.
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08/12/2020 10:54:08 9 5
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At least it is Mrs Coates' own business, she pays all the correct tax here in the UK and she supports a lot of local projects and charities.
It's not how I would want to earn my living but nor would I be happy with banning it.
Mind you, I have never gambled in my entire life.
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08/12/2020 10:42:20 41 14
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Yet next year 16 year old’s will be able to vote in Scotland and Wales; are they children only when they’re making bad decisions?
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08/12/2020 10:54:41 18 2
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Both labour in wales and the SNP are desperate for votes so of course they will give it to children. Only the UK parliament should be able to change the voting age.
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08/12/2020 10:54:44 9 4
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Don't dismiss the addictive nature of gambling folks. I once had to bail out a colleague who put his day's takings into a 'one armed bandit' He'd have been down the road.
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08/12/2020 11:09:16 3 1
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You didn't work for a major bus operator in Hertfordshire, did you? I did, and we also had someone who did just that. The addiction has to be seen to be believed. "I won ten quid" they yell happily, having put three times that sum into the machine.
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08/12/2020 10:51:40 1 2
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You can get killed before 16. In fact you can get killed any age once you born. All gambling adverts, sponsorship etc should be banned. Then families will not go without food if there are less addicts. Yet more good news to protect you young who can't but alcohol and tobacco products. Well done.
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08/12/2020 10:54:51 0 3
bbc
Why stop my fun cos of weak people
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08/12/2020 10:39:45 35 3
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Gambling MUST be addressed, it ruins lives.

My sister was married to a gambler, and in the end she divorced him. He had used her credit cards to buy lots of online gambling. When she reported it to the credit card company, they said they would only wipe it if it was reported to the POLICE.
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08/12/2020 10:58:23 6 72
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Thats your families problem not mine so stop lecturing me
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OwO
08/12/2020 11:01:33 1 7
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Why wouldn't she report theft to the police? While awful for your sister, that's not an excuse to tell everyone else how they're allowed to live their lives.
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08/12/2020 10:42:12 28 4
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People shouldn't be allowed to play the National Lottery until they've sat a course in Statistical (Im)probability, plus a course in How to Use Your Common Sense. Then no one would play it at all.
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08/12/2020 10:58:27 15 1
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isn't that covered in GCSE math's?

The issue is most of those buying tickets probably didn't sit it....
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08/12/2020 11:12:39 2 1
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It's common sense to use your common sense, if you have any.

However addictive people don't use "common sense", that's common knowledge and the crucial point.
If people only gambled responsibly then there wouldn't be some many firms making millions in profit.
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08/12/2020 17:20:44 0 0
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Did a maths degree, and first lecture course in permutations and combinations involved working out p of winning the lottery, was a sobering lecture.

In fairness I view the money I spend on the lottery as a charitable donation (in part) as they often help fund good causes like grassroots sports which is badly needed funding.
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09/12/2020 00:29:57 0 0
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Everyone does maths, if they fail they resit repeatedly if they want to progress, assuming these people are stupid won’t really help
If this was to happen, would this apply to Las Vegas?
How would a course in common sense be taught?
Common sense is opinion based & easily manipulated, as we’ve learned this year
These people know their odds, what they stand to lose/already lost, more than money...
Clown your not being forced to gamble Removed
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08/12/2020 10:56:18 9 2
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No but it is easy to get addicted.
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08/12/2020 11:02:38 2 17
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Take responsibilty its not my problem
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MVS
08/12/2020 10:53:32 0 6
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And while we are about it let's stop people playing sports because they might get hurt by somebody else!
What about people being responsible for their own actions.
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08/12/2020 10:56:51 0 8
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Exactly i hate these weak people lecturing what is good or bad for me,
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08/12/2020 10:47:36 4 8
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Silly person why stop my fun because people are too weak to stop
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08/12/2020 10:57:03 4 1
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No-one is stopping your fun, unless you are under 18 and by the time this becomes law you will be anyway. Gambling is addictive and while the gambler can do as he/she wishes, what about their dependents? Why should they suffer because of an addiction? Long-term, the gambler never wins, otherwise there would be no gambling, when you think about it.
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08/12/2020 11:01:30 0 3
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Thats not my problem they have family to help them out
I hear Brexiteers are to be banned from voting Removed
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08/12/2020 11:07:23 1 2
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There's always one. Give it a rest.
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08/12/2020 11:10:40 1 1
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Funny that - I heard that remoaners who still cant accept the will of the majority are to be banned from posting silly comments on social media.
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08/12/2020 10:57:12 86 12
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Gambling ads should be banned
Max stakes should be introduced for EVERYTHING, from slots - sports
Excise tax should be raised to fund support groups/education

These companies make billions at the expense of people's lives. Yes people should take personal responsibility, but they spend millions on psych analysis to make them as addictive as possible.

Why do we not treat it the same as smoking?
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08/12/2020 10:59:15 2 65
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Why
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08/12/2020 11:47:09 3 6
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That would be typical of this nanny state.

I cant order a quadruple big mac, because too many people cant control their diets, and the government has to put measurements in place.

Likewise, with those that cant control their gambling habits, I should have limitations on my controlled fun.

Sick of this country.
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rob
08/12/2020 11:50:18 2 4
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I'm not being told how many cigarettes I can smoke or how much booze I can drink and I'm not being told how much I can put on a horse either.
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JGC
08/12/2020 10:57:16 12 2
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Seems it's becoming harder and harder. I got a change in conditions from Barclaycard saying my card can no longer be used for any online gambling and they will block such payments. I wonder if other card providers will do the same?
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08/12/2020 12:37:49 5 0
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That's excellent news. I need to check if my current card provider does that, and if not, I'm going to switch. I fully back responsible lenders.
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08/12/2020 13:31:18 1 0
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That became law back in April - you can't use a credit card for gambling in the UK anymore.
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08/12/2020 10:57:34 15 9
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Studies have shown that majority of humans don't mentally mature until they are actually in their mid 20's.....

Maybe we therefore need a uniformed approach - Raise the age for everything - drinking, gambling, sex, marriage, joining the army, starting work, driving, voting etc. - to 21.
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08/12/2020 11:07:03 12 1
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Many things used to have the age-21 limit when I was young, but over the years various lower limits have been introduced, with little logical reason, often in response to pressure from "campaigners" who of course have no responsibility for anything except making a lot of noise and fuss.
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Bob
08/12/2020 11:10:33 2 1
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Totally fair to say that in your 20s you will look back and think 'oh boy I was a dumb-dumb back then', but you do the same when you're in your 30s looking back at your 20s and so on.

We constantly mature and learn from our past.
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mm
08/12/2020 11:12:20 2 1
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We do need to have a consistent age for consent. It's a mess. The lowest age is 16 for you-know-what but 15 and 14 year olds are at it anyway and charges for such acitivity are almost never brought. Marriage being 16 really blows a hole in most of the others. I suspect that other higher ages could be challenged in law but would probably need a class action to succeed.
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08/12/2020 10:59:17 1 0
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But they won't be in their mid-twenties at 21.
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08/12/2020 10:44:10 67 3
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The lottery itself fuels it. I remember well the first Saturday I ran, and that was it for the week. Now it seems like the odds have grown and so has the stake money. Multiple games and scratch cards galore.
It used to be fun, now it has just become mired in greed.
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08/12/2020 10:57:34 40 2
bbc
Your right!
There are too many lottery games. The more disciplined limit themselves to just one game. Only an addict or fool would play every single one.
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08/12/2020 12:15:16 4 0
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Lottery money used to be for sports etc, now its being used to keep library's open which are council owned etc
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08/12/2020 10:39:45 35 3
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Gambling MUST be addressed, it ruins lives.

My sister was married to a gambler, and in the end she divorced him. He had used her credit cards to buy lots of online gambling. When she reported it to the credit card company, they said they would only wipe it if it was reported to the POLICE.
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08/12/2020 10:58:23 6 72
bbc
Thats your families problem not mine so stop lecturing me
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08/12/2020 11:14:15 15 1
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What a low threshold for irritation you have! No one is lecturing, if they were you probably wouldn't learn anything!
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08/12/2020 12:25:50 2 0
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You took a gamble with your reply.

The gamble didn’t pay off
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08/12/2020 14:38:34 2 0
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You are a first class jeb end and a troll.
Now go away and let the grown ups have a proper conversation.
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08/12/2020 10:58:24 71 4
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Every year, I place a couple of bets on the Grand National. It's a family tradition that we do it, but aside from that one day a year, I don't gamble at all... yet I'm beset by gambling ads whenever I go online.

Whether I'm just in 'their' demographic (male, 40, decent income) or whether the one day a year puts me on a 'hit list', I don't know, but the volume of these ads is ridiculous.
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08/12/2020 11:17:08 16 3
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You've given them your email address - that's all it takes!
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08/12/2020 11:01:10 2 1
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We are all deluged with these ads Botski
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08/12/2020 12:24:43 2 0
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Use and ad blocker and a decent mail company, I see nothing like this
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08/12/2020 18:23:33 0 0
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If you are beset by gambling ads, you’re either going to sites, or you need to adjust your settings to ban pop-ups.
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08/12/2020 20:19:17 0 0
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They should also ban under 18 year olds having smart phones to avoid gambling online and to avoid their obsession / addiction to social media.
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08/12/2020 10:42:12 28 4
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People shouldn't be allowed to play the National Lottery until they've sat a course in Statistical (Im)probability, plus a course in How to Use Your Common Sense. Then no one would play it at all.
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08/12/2020 10:58:27 15 1
bbc
isn't that covered in GCSE math's?

The issue is most of those buying tickets probably didn't sit it....
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08/12/2020 12:43:08 0 0
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I remember it being AS-level Maths (Statistics) back in the day.
Even if it is in GCSEs in a simple form, a lot of people manage to fail GCSE maths regardless.
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08/12/2020 16:14:01 0 0
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Probability was part of my A-level maths course. We didn't do 'common sense', though.

1 in 45,057,474 chance to get all numbers for the UK lottery jackpot,
1 in 139,838,160 to get all numbers and stars for the Euromillions jackpot -

there's such a tiny chance of winning the big money, it isn't worth buying a ticket - yet people do.

As someone once said, lottery tickets are a tax on the stupid.
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08/12/2020 18:09:05 0 0
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When I was at school, you sat at most 6 O Level and then 2 A Levels 2 years later. A few went on to Uni, (at our school you went on a Roll of Honour if you graduated).

Now the kids are all getting 10 GCSE, followed by 3-4 A Levels, (all A*) then over 50% graduate.

Strangely the kids seem to be no smarter.
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08/12/2020 10:58:46 116 6
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As always there is an old saying that covers most situations, in this case

"its the bookies that drive Rolls Royce's and the punters who drive Cortina's"
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08/12/2020 11:00:31 25 2
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this time next week, we'll be millionaires

no. really
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08/12/2020 11:06:15 4 3
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In west of Scotland it was said bookies drive to work punters walk to the bookies work and both repeat the same process at the end of the day.
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08/12/2020 12:33:32 5 0
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My grandfather always used to say: "you never see a bookie on a bike"...
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08/12/2020 12:53:02 1 0
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liked the old mark 1 cortinas though
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08/12/2020 13:17:47 3 1
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My Granny showed me the Bookies car park at Newbury races. 'There, look at the Daimlers and Bentleys'. 'That's where your Grandad's money goes!'. Wise words.
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08/12/2020 10:57:12 86 12
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Gambling ads should be banned
Max stakes should be introduced for EVERYTHING, from slots - sports
Excise tax should be raised to fund support groups/education

These companies make billions at the expense of people's lives. Yes people should take personal responsibility, but they spend millions on psych analysis to make them as addictive as possible.

Why do we not treat it the same as smoking?
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08/12/2020 10:59:15 2 65
bbc
Why
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08/12/2020 11:33:02 5 0
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because for some it's dangerous and one with no real upside.
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08/12/2020 13:20:36 1 1
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Because banning cigarette adverts and hiding cigarettes behind shutters actually worked. Sorry that you Libertarian nonsense isn't compatible in the real world.
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08/12/2020 10:41:36 28 5
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The amount of money that teenagers (and adults!) spend on "skins" and "rare" items for a video game is crazy.

Back in the day of arcades and coin-ops a lot of video games were deliberately made both addictive AND almost impossible to finish on just one coin:

Ghouls and Ghosts, Space Invaders, Galaga, Galaxian, Gauntlet, Pac Man etc were all designed to make loadsamoney.
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08/12/2020 11:00:29 11 3
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".... were all designed to make loadsamoney." Of course! The people who run these things are not charities, or benevolent societies - they are in it to make shedloads of money and they do. The pity of it is that so many seem to believe that one day (which never comes) they as a punter will win millions. They won't - it doesn't work that way.
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08/12/2020 10:58:46 116 6
bbc
As always there is an old saying that covers most situations, in this case

"its the bookies that drive Rolls Royce's and the punters who drive Cortina's"
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08/12/2020 11:00:31 25 2
bbc
this time next week, we'll be millionaires

no. really
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08/12/2020 13:56:21 0 0
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I'm searching the garage for old pocket watches ??
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08/12/2020 17:52:23 0 0
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Driving inflation.
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08/12/2020 10:50:48 2 1
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You are in a minority
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08/12/2020 11:00:49 0 4
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I dont care i should be able to spend my money on what i want not what you want me to
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08/12/2020 10:57:03 4 1
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No-one is stopping your fun, unless you are under 18 and by the time this becomes law you will be anyway. Gambling is addictive and while the gambler can do as he/she wishes, what about their dependents? Why should they suffer because of an addiction? Long-term, the gambler never wins, otherwise there would be no gambling, when you think about it.
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08/12/2020 11:01:30 0 3
bbc
Thats not my problem they have family to help them out
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08/12/2020 10:39:45 35 3
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Gambling MUST be addressed, it ruins lives.

My sister was married to a gambler, and in the end she divorced him. He had used her credit cards to buy lots of online gambling. When she reported it to the credit card company, they said they would only wipe it if it was reported to the POLICE.
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OwO
08/12/2020 11:01:33 1 7
bbc
Why wouldn't she report theft to the police? While awful for your sister, that's not an excuse to tell everyone else how they're allowed to live their lives.
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08/12/2020 11:18:57 1 0
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Because the divorce was punishment enough
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08/12/2020 10:56:18 9 2
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No but it is easy to get addicted.
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08/12/2020 11:02:38 2 17
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Take responsibilty its not my problem
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Moz
08/12/2020 12:19:44 2 0
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Based on your responses on several post - it ironically sounds like it IS your problem....
Clown your not being forced to gamble Removed
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08/12/2020 11:03:18 12 2
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That's like saying to a victim of domestic abuse, "you're not forced to stay in that relationship."

But they are often being manipulated by their partner and this is essentially what is happening with gambling addiction.
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08/12/2020 11:34:23 2 6
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Gambling addiction akin to domestic abuse? Removing any individual responsibility is a very dangerous road.
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08/12/2020 11:03:38 3 6
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Your being paid the “living wage” in the local convenience store and various youngsters come in to buy lottery tickets. Are you going to waste the energy in challenging them all ?
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08/12/2020 11:09:31 1 2
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Creasy, it will be illegal to sell them to under 18s, just like booze. If the shopkeepers/owners don't challenge for ID then they'll be fined and/or lose their licence to sell. Nothing to do with living wage employees having an easier life.
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08/12/2020 11:30:32 1 1
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The fact that you think a bunch of kids with their pocket money would all crowd into a shop to get a kick off the lotto is beyond me.
Let alone the fact a licenced shop that asks for ID all day would then say "I cant be bothered today".
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08/12/2020 12:35:05 0 0
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you soon would if you could be personally prosecuted if breaking the law.
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08/12/2020 10:48:41 12 8
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If U18 can't cope with gambling how on earth can they cope with voting?

We do need to come to terms with that biological maturity has absolutely nothing to do with intellectual or emotional maturity (especially in us men)

In our world intellectual or emotional maturity is the most important thing and the problem for the "snowflake" generation is the education system failed to prepare them at all
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OwO
08/12/2020 11:04:23 0 1
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Interesting recent studies showing we don't reach mental maturity until mid-20s.

Agreed, however, that you need to actually learn something along the way. Regulate it, restrict it to some degree, but if people know nothing of the dangers they'll just go mad when they can.

Look at how binge drinking has massively reduced compared to 90s through education campaigns - keep people informed!
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08/12/2020 10:52:58 0 2
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My issue is that more & more people are considered 'vulnerable'.

What has society come to if the majority appear unable to function & contribute without major support? (55% receive some form of benefit).

We may as well give up now.
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08/12/2020 11:04:27 1 2
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55% receive some kind of benefit because firstly the lying gov. call pensions a "benefit" and secondly tightwad businesses pay tiny wages so the gov. has to pay in-work benefits so people can afford to live. Receiving "benefits" is not the same as needing support for, say, an addiction. Don't forget that calling people "vulnerable" does not make them so.
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08/12/2020 12:25:55 0 0
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State pension is a benefit. Its paid for from general taxation (your NI contributions are not being squirreled away/invested by the gov for when you retire) & everyone can save for a private pension if they want to.

In work benefits are not required people should live within their means - but if the gov offer 'free' money why wouldn't they take it?
Clown your not being forced to gamble Removed
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08/12/2020 11:04:38 10 5
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Clown, you're not capable of using spellcheck....
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08/12/2020 11:59:57 0 2
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Clown, your is correct spelling so won't show up on spellcheck ...................
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08/12/2020 17:13:46 0 0
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Who are you
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08/12/2020 11:04:49 51 7
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Ban all tv advertising is a minimum of what should be done.
And ban all sports sponsorships as well.
Gambling is a disease and should be treated like one.
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08/12/2020 11:06:57 11 43
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Ha ha its not a disease, its weak people
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08/12/2020 11:08:06 5 4
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No - PROBLEM gambling is a disease in the same way that problem drinking is a disease.
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08/12/2020 11:09:53 3 5
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Gambling addiction is a disease. Gambling itself is perfectly fine.
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08/12/2020 11:15:20 1 6
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it's really weird, how this disease, doesn't affect countries like ethiopia
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08/12/2020 18:27:21 0 0
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‘Love is a gamble, it’s win or lose’ comes to mind. Gambling is not a ‘disease’, except metaphorically. Rather like self-styled ‘sex addicts’, people claim they can’t help something when they go for instant gratification without weighing the sonsequences.
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08/12/2020 10:51:30 3 7
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Either gambling should continue to be legal in this country or it should not.
But this constant tinkering with the rules to prevent fools being parted from their money is yet further infringement of the rights and RESPOSIBILITIES of individuals.
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08/12/2020 11:05:55 2 1
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Infringement of the rights and RESPONSIBILITIES of individuals. I think Covid has proven that people cannot be trusted.
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08/12/2020 10:58:46 116 6
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As always there is an old saying that covers most situations, in this case

"its the bookies that drive Rolls Royce's and the punters who drive Cortina's"
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08/12/2020 11:06:15 4 3
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In west of Scotland it was said bookies drive to work punters walk to the bookies work and both repeat the same process at the end of the day.
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08/12/2020 11:04:49 51 7
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Ban all tv advertising is a minimum of what should be done.
And ban all sports sponsorships as well.
Gambling is a disease and should be treated like one.
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08/12/2020 11:06:57 11 43
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Ha ha its not a disease, its weak people
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08/12/2020 11:11:20 4 1
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Gambling addiction is a serious condition, it is a well-known phenomenon going back centuries. Much work has been done on this by psychiatrists but that is probably beyond your simplistic view of the world.
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08/12/2020 12:17:10 2 1
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Ha ha covid isn't a disease, its weak people.
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08/12/2020 10:57:34 15 9
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Studies have shown that majority of humans don't mentally mature until they are actually in their mid 20's.....

Maybe we therefore need a uniformed approach - Raise the age for everything - drinking, gambling, sex, marriage, joining the army, starting work, driving, voting etc. - to 21.
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08/12/2020 11:07:03 12 1
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Many things used to have the age-21 limit when I was young, but over the years various lower limits have been introduced, with little logical reason, often in response to pressure from "campaigners" who of course have no responsibility for anything except making a lot of noise and fuss.
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QED
08/12/2020 11:07:11 4 1
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Most importantly ban paid for loot boxes for under 18, pushing these to children is despicable.
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08/12/2020 11:24:46 0 2
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So you can shoot and stab another player, but we draw the line at a random box.
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08/12/2020 11:07:11 5 1
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About time, good to see this gov, who are so often swayed by their backers' arguments "that is all about personal freedoms", actually banning gambling (national lottery) for under 18s.
I hear Brexiteers are to be banned from voting Removed
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08/12/2020 11:07:23 1 2
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There's always one. Give it a rest.
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08/12/2020 11:07:28 6 1
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Good, make it 21.
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08/12/2020 11:04:49 51 7
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Ban all tv advertising is a minimum of what should be done.
And ban all sports sponsorships as well.
Gambling is a disease and should be treated like one.
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08/12/2020 11:08:06 5 4
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No - PROBLEM gambling is a disease in the same way that problem drinking is a disease.
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08/12/2020 11:08:41 5 1
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They could always apply tiers to gambling, not to be done unless in casino having a substantial meal, and no alcohol :-)

Or just ban it altogether, would benefit many people...
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08/12/2020 11:10:45 0 8
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Ha ha you being sarcastic
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08/12/2020 11:18:19 1 1
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the government doesn't care about the many

they care about the few
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08/12/2020 10:50:43 6 6
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Denise Coates, the Bet365 chief exec, paid more tax last year than just about anyone else will in their lifetime. Call for gambling restrictions if you want, but let's stop laying into someone who has more than paid her way.

How far is this going to go? Are we going to see investing in stocks and shares be limited to a maximum of £2 per purchase? After all, it's just gambling in another guise.
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08/12/2020 11:08:50 1 1
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Its a £14bn industry.

I also pay tax, wheres my pat on the back?
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08/12/2020 11:20:28 0 0
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Nobody's laying into you calling you a parasite, are they?
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08/12/2020 10:54:44 9 4
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Don't dismiss the addictive nature of gambling folks. I once had to bail out a colleague who put his day's takings into a 'one armed bandit' He'd have been down the road.
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08/12/2020 11:09:16 3 1
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You didn't work for a major bus operator in Hertfordshire, did you? I did, and we also had someone who did just that. The addiction has to be seen to be believed. "I won ten quid" they yell happily, having put three times that sum into the machine.