Coronavirus: Weekend shopping returns but numbers down on 2019
07/12/2020 | news | business | 167
Christmas shoppers returned to stores in England this weekend, but footfall was down 25% on last year.
1
07/12/2020 10:28:36 3 1
bbc
Who'd have thunk it.... i wonder why? could it be the god damn pandemic? Does this even need stated?
2
07/12/2020 10:29:57 32 6
bbc
Right - a caveat here. I'm aware that many of the photographs of crowded streets are foreshortened, so they make shoppers look more densely packed than they are in reality.

On the other hand, there were some pictures where people were unambiguusly packed to the rafters.

How much common sense does it take to say "whoa, that street/queue is clearly too packed. I'll go somewhere else"?
3
07/12/2020 10:30:35 37 7
bbc
Many people ive spoken to have already bought presents online to avoid the rush
and avoid the risk of catching Covid in busy shopping centres etc
4
07/12/2020 10:31:56 6 14
bbc
Personally, I haven't stepped inside a shop since March.

There is nothing you can't buy online.
9
07/12/2020 10:42:28 15 3
bbc
Be careful what you wish for or there won't be any shops anymore.
80
37p
07/12/2020 12:37:08 0 1
bbc
That's not true.

I live in a town that thrives on individuality and small independent shops. Much of what they offer is not online.

It's true that online shopping is great for branded goods where you can compare prices. It's also true that there are some individuals online but personally I like meeting shop owners and seeing how they operate.
5
Ed
07/12/2020 10:34:26 5 7
bbc
Good. Bit of a silly article Numbers should be down. By the looks of it there are way to many. Remember.....PANDEMIC!!
6
07/12/2020 10:37:56 48 5
bbc
While decreased footfall will initially be down to people taking more care at this time, in the long run we need to learn to live with less stuff and to adapt the economy to not be so reliant on consumerism, which is neither essential behaviour nor good for the environment.
118
07/12/2020 13:42:30 8 0
bbc
The only possible way to fix any of it is through educating and encouraging children to do the right thing. Nothing else that adults do will make a difference.
161
07/12/2020 19:32:26 1 0
bbc
Decreased footfall and higher online ordering. See the connection?
7
07/12/2020 10:42:00 30 11
bbc
...and as the pictures in the article shows, very little social distancing, few masks and masks worn incorrectly. No wonder infections rates keep climbing.
126
mc
07/12/2020 14:27:34 3 6
bbc
obsessed by useless masks it has no effecr see science reports
167
08/12/2020 18:37:21 0 0
bbc
True and now cases are rising in the majority of London Bououghs. If London goes into Tier 3 on the 16th, the West End and London will be hit very badly, if it stays in Tier 2 new cases will continue to rise further.Wear masks and follow social distancing guidelines when Xmas shopping.Your actions have economic consequences.
8
07/12/2020 10:38:54 22 11
bbc
I can't see any reason for going anywhere near a high street until I've had the vaccine
4
07/12/2020 10:31:56 6 14
bbc
Personally, I haven't stepped inside a shop since March.

There is nothing you can't buy online.
9
07/12/2020 10:42:28 15 3
bbc
Be careful what you wish for or there won't be any shops anymore.
10
07/12/2020 10:43:29 9 18
bbc
Young people, at extremely low risk, going about their lives like they should be able to.
23
07/12/2020 11:10:53 9 2
bbc
Spreading the virus to their & others' parents & grandparents & killing them...
11
Neb
07/12/2020 10:45:04 20 9
bbc
I really dread the economic fallout after Christmas, just look at all the stores that have fallen into administration / gone under in just the past few weeks.

It is going to be economic carnage next year, oh and throw Brexit on top of that just to put a cherry on it...
149
07/12/2020 16:44:06 2 0
bbc
High street shops were dying out anyway. Been dying for years. Nothing to do with brexit, only speeded up a bit by corvid. Technological change has made shops far off in high streets utterly irrelevant to the acquiring of goods. Been ripping us, and makers, creators, off for countles decades. No one mourns their demise. Finally getting to see their part of the chain was least valuable to customers
12
07/12/2020 10:45:13 51 12
bbc
Did 100% of my Christmas shopping online

Much as I loathe some online retailers, I also loathe being sat in traffic, paying through the nose for parking and the 'shopping experience' that is hordes of mardy frustrated people

I sat and ordered it from the comfort of my arm chair with a brew and had it delivered to my door

Then spent quality time with my family

I make no apologies for any of it
81
07/12/2020 12:40:54 15 1
bbc
100% this. Gave some thought as to what to buy over a few days, went online and everything was ordered in under an hour. Bought from some vibrant, smaller retailers and am looking forward to it all arriving now.
13
07/12/2020 10:46:36 11 9
bbc
My family agreed to cancel Xmas this in September.

No family meal. No presents. No gift cards. Just cards.

Given the health of some of us, not happy with these crowds now or in new year if we had sent gift cards. And that assumes shop still trading.

Zoom Xmas drink,if everyone able and system up to every other households in UK not doing same.
150
07/12/2020 16:42:22 2 0
bbc
Very sensible, it' a shame more people are not like this. Admirable.
14
07/12/2020 10:48:40 28 5
bbc
Lost one of my family, miss her more than I'll ever miss shopping in town. Done all my Christmas shopping online this year. Every online retailer has been very efficient and I've done it all in warmth and comfort of home.
Even small independent retailers have adapted really well
83
07/12/2020 12:42:57 12 0
bbc
So sorry for your loss.

I too love the variety of items you see when browsing small independent online retailers. Much better than most of the overpriced tat in the town centre/retail park chains.
116
07/12/2020 13:37:42 4 0
bbc
I too lost mum to Covid 3 weeks ago and i too have done it all online. Terrified to go out and get some food no slots left for delivery will have to bite the bullet and venture to the supermarket. However it will not be the same without mum.
15
07/12/2020 10:50:21 47 11
bbc
Nice to see the sensible people out and about adhering to social distancing and wearing their masks - not.

And all to buy more stuff they don't need with money they don't have.
47
07/12/2020 11:51:47 17 4
bbc
It's the capitalist mindset: we need more stuff, while not caring about others so much. Covid has exposed the flaws in both the system and the society generated from it.
masks do nothing admited only a scare tactic Removed
135
07/12/2020 15:28:05 1 2
bbc
This just confirms that it's not "if" we are all put into another lockdown after Christmas, but "when".

Sadly and even just on the evidence of the photographs in this article; a great many of us appear to see unbridled retail therapy as more important than life itself.
136
07/12/2020 15:43:54 2 3
bbc
Looking at the pictures of Oxford Street it’s interesting to see the faces of people. Many in the under 30 age group. Many not wearing masks and impossible to do distancing.

Bargain of the day?

Covid.
It probably won’t cause them too much harm but an unwelcome present for their middle aged parents or dear old grandparents.
166
08/12/2020 18:03:25 0 0
bbc
Yeah and seeing this and the anticipation of people gathering to celebrate xmas - the virus will spike again in the New Year causing more issues for the NHS and subsequent deaths - yes we have hope a vaccine, but time is needed to deliver it --- if only people have patience - life and 2021 can be a lot better for all of us....
16
07/12/2020 10:51:58 10 11
bbc
No intention of fueling the Christmas splurge. It's a truly awful experience now is shopping, every store seems to make up it's own rules based on the amount of fear the managers have. You feel like you are putting on them.
I was sympathetic of retail job losses, not anymore. Lost sympathy long ago.

Internet is best, just keep away from Hermes deliveries if you want it to arrive.
17
07/12/2020 10:57:31 11 6
bbc
The numbers will be down "BBC the non news broadcaster" people have been told to shop as singular shoppers. There will be so many men out there so pleased they can't go shopping with the other half.
18
07/12/2020 10:59:54 11 8
bbc
The images of the crowds perfectly highlights the stupidity of a large sector of the population. Is it the young or the old.
19
07/12/2020 11:02:48 21 10
bbc
You could play 'where's the wally' with that Primark queue photo. I can spot only 5 people wearing a mask properly, rest are no mask, chin mask, nose out
41
07/12/2020 11:40:43 11 4
bbc
You do not need to wear when outside, they look ready to slip them on once they get inside, which is the rule,
101
07/12/2020 13:08:23 0 1
bbc
Crikey, aren't you astute. And with their noses out, the gall of it.
110
07/12/2020 13:21:48 0 2
bbc
only a Wally wouldn't know that wearing of masks is compulsory inside shops not outside.
20
07/12/2020 11:11:30 18 7
bbc
This year and probably forever we're giving our xmas spend to local food banks
26
07/12/2020 11:24:45 8 22
bbc
I would too but I couldn't support a brexiter who has shot himself in the foot and is now hungry.
21
07/12/2020 11:15:44 22 7
bbc
People criticising the crowds are like people who sit in traffic jams fuming at being held up. They fail to see they are the traffic jam.

Internet shopping is here, it is the future, there is no turning back now. Live with it, embrace it.
111
Pip
07/12/2020 13:25:38 2 8
bbc
And watch the standards of the goods you're buying decline, because the ease of purchase has removed the use of physical inspaction.............?
22
07/12/2020 11:08:40 38 7
bbc
The images in this article & the sheer insanity of Nottingham council's Christmas market illustrate the reason why new infections remain stubbornly high.
There's a significant percentage of UK citizens either too stupid or too selfish to deserve the freedoms they have.
10
07/12/2020 10:43:29 9 18
bbc
Young people, at extremely low risk, going about their lives like they should be able to.
23
07/12/2020 11:10:53 9 2
bbc
Spreading the virus to their & others' parents & grandparents & killing them...
24
07/12/2020 11:21:07 10 10
bbc
Large crowds shopping, buy lots of plastic rubbish which will be consigned to the dustbin in a few weeks is what xmas is all about.

This year, along with colds and flu, you may get a viral pressie as well which could truly ruin your life.

Idiots!!
99
07/12/2020 13:04:54 0 2
bbc
Harsh Terry! have a lie down.
25
07/12/2020 11:22:12 9 10
bbc
The irony of this story actually lies in another story. 'Nottingham Christmas market' You see councils think they can control peoples mentality. But those arriving into a crowded environment tut-tut, but they never seem to say "I won't add to this problem" by turning around and going home. Everyone wants everyone else to do what they need to do.

Go online folks, and stay safe.
20
07/12/2020 11:11:30 18 7
bbc
This year and probably forever we're giving our xmas spend to local food banks
26
07/12/2020 11:24:45 8 22
bbc
I would too but I couldn't support a brexiter who has shot himself in the foot and is now hungry.
53
07/12/2020 11:53:24 10 2
bbc
What a stupid comment.
27
07/12/2020 11:15:07 1 2
bbc
Why are comments not appearing here, either as replies or stand alone comments?
37
37p
07/12/2020 11:43:31 5 0
bbc
Looks like yours made it!
77
37p
07/12/2020 12:27:18 3 0
bbc
This post intrigues me.

If you think comments aren't being posted then why post one?
Either you think they are being posted which isn't what you're asking or they aren't in which case there's no point in trying!

Strange!
28
Jb
07/12/2020 11:28:33 4 8
bbc
Where are the police to stop people breaking the social distancing regulations?! Many will die as a result of this stupidity.
46
07/12/2020 11:51:34 7 0
bbc
Too busy being woke
It’s been a con
60k+ people haven’t died of covid19
At most 6k have died because of it
Wen u think 44-50k people die every year because of sepsis
It kind of sums it up
People need to get a grip on reality
Removed
29
07/12/2020 11:29:13 7 9
bbc
These people are trying very hard to make sure their old relatives do not survive the new year.
39
07/12/2020 11:35:27 6 3
bbc
You have the most apt username on this forum.
98
07/12/2020 13:02:51 0 1
bbc
By respectfully going about their daily business.. the fiends!!
30
07/12/2020 11:30:20 5 7
bbc
What is wrong that people aren't doing social distancing or masks. This is not a joke. What do you really need that causes this shop chaos.
Oh are these the same people who don't have money to feed their kids?
Just bought a whole chicken at Tesco, half price with club card. That's at least two meals, then use the carcass for soup with vegs.. Good cooking...
49
37p
07/12/2020 11:52:27 5 4
bbc
Confusing post. You complain that people shouldn't go to the shops then say people are short of money and then say you've just been to the shops (after saying they shouldn't go to the shops) and then how thrifty you are having been shopping!

What's the point you're trying to make?
31
07/12/2020 11:30:39 4 8
bbc
I wonder why the numbers could have been down. I know could it have been the effect of a world wide pandemic. Wow who would have thought that. Such a load of trivial nonsense from the BBC again.
32
07/12/2020 11:34:33 28 6
bbc
By shutting shops for a month the government has created a shopping bottleneck. It's like bending a hose pipe under pressure, the pressure just builds until it is forced from the tap on the wall or finds another weak spot.
It was madness, and added to the Christmas household mixing rules, another spike in late January is inevitable. Nothing is ever learned in the land of the stupid.
65
07/12/2020 12:03:20 12 5
bbc
So would you prefer the bottleneck to be in the acute wards in hospital?
95
07/12/2020 12:57:09 0 1
bbc
At government level i.e. Bullingdon fat man. The economy is mostly what they are concerned with, start there..
33
DG
07/12/2020 11:38:38 13 11
bbc
Lockdown lifted and the streets are full of Snowflakes with no masks, again.
Why do they not understand that their actions are prolonging this crises and affecting the high street/retail jobs when restrictions are put in place.
48
07/12/2020 11:51:56 6 6
bbc
Agreed. Often have to walk on road with numpties not wearing masks to pass them by and they don't give way either.
So sad these people.
50
07/12/2020 11:42:45 8 3
bbc
You do not need to wear masks when out side they are doing nothing wrong.
92
07/12/2020 12:54:54 2 1
bbc
I can't understand why anyone thinks you should wear a mask outside..
105
Pip
07/12/2020 13:13:56 1 1
bbc
That's what you think, others may not share your views, just because you think you're right doesn't make it so............?
34
07/12/2020 11:39:29 7 11
bbc
Businesses encouraged into costly social distancing measures, limited numbers etc, while the streets outside are jam-packed with hardly anyone wearing a mask. That makes real sense, & those in the thick of it will be asking why the police aren't keeping it under control? Yer 'aving a larf! If the same people were sent packing they'd be screaming "Hooman rights" all the way home on a crowded bus.
44
07/12/2020 11:48:23 6 3
bbc
Actually it does make sense to have different rules indoors and outdoors.
35
07/12/2020 11:34:29 13 7
bbc
Of course numbers are down, the Government and hence the Media propaganda machine has frightened people away,probably for years.
36
07/12/2020 11:42:57 8 8
bbc
What is wrong with people? Look at that picture of Regent Street! Why the h are people so obsessed with shopping in a physical store!! Christmas shopping is my idea of hell at the best of times, but during a pandemic?

Most if not all of those shops have websites, and distance selling regs say they have to offer a returns service, so just order online and STOP THE SPREAD!!!
103
Pip
07/12/2020 13:10:58 1 1
bbc
Funny how people with a particular point of view assume they're right.................?
27
07/12/2020 11:15:07 1 2
bbc
Why are comments not appearing here, either as replies or stand alone comments?
37
37p
07/12/2020 11:43:31 5 0
bbc
Looks like yours made it!
38
07/12/2020 11:43:45 4 4
bbc
Coronavirus: Weekend shopping returns but numbers down on 2019

Haven't these people got computers?
43
37p
07/12/2020 11:47:07 5 3
bbc
Do you need a computer to go to the shops now?
29
07/12/2020 11:29:13 7 9
bbc
These people are trying very hard to make sure their old relatives do not survive the new year.
39
07/12/2020 11:35:27 6 3
bbc
You have the most apt username on this forum.
40
07/12/2020 11:45:37 22 5
bbc
And scientists and politicians feel the need to close down quiet country pubs,restaraunts and cafes because of virus transmissions ?? I have heard of more people catching this from hospitals !
58
07/12/2020 12:00:01 11 4
bbc
People don't choose to go to hospitals. It's out of necessity.
60
07/12/2020 12:00:36 5 5
bbc
A neice of my neighbour who is a nurse in critical care
Was told to go home as she wasn’t needed, and this was in the 1st lockdown when apparently we were in deep trouble, and armegedon was on the horizon
19
07/12/2020 11:02:48 21 10
bbc
You could play 'where's the wally' with that Primark queue photo. I can spot only 5 people wearing a mask properly, rest are no mask, chin mask, nose out
41
07/12/2020 11:40:43 11 4
bbc
You do not need to wear when outside, they look ready to slip them on once they get inside, which is the rule,
42
07/12/2020 11:46:33 37 6
bbc
Haven’t virtually locked myself away for the last 8 months just to throw it all away on a bit of shopping just before getting a vaccine.
38
07/12/2020 11:43:45 4 4
bbc
Coronavirus: Weekend shopping returns but numbers down on 2019

Haven't these people got computers?
43
37p
07/12/2020 11:47:07 5 3
bbc
Do you need a computer to go to the shops now?
45
07/12/2020 11:49:42 2 1
bbc
Basically, yes, if you want any choice
34
07/12/2020 11:39:29 7 11
bbc
Businesses encouraged into costly social distancing measures, limited numbers etc, while the streets outside are jam-packed with hardly anyone wearing a mask. That makes real sense, & those in the thick of it will be asking why the police aren't keeping it under control? Yer 'aving a larf! If the same people were sent packing they'd be screaming "Hooman rights" all the way home on a crowded bus.
44
07/12/2020 11:48:23 6 3
bbc
Actually it does make sense to have different rules indoors and outdoors.
51
07/12/2020 11:52:48 5 2
bbc
That's why they have all those signs outside reading, 'Observe social distancing' then?
43
37p
07/12/2020 11:47:07 5 3
bbc
Do you need a computer to go to the shops now?
45
07/12/2020 11:49:42 2 1
bbc
Basically, yes, if you want any choice
56
37p
07/12/2020 11:58:40 2 2
bbc
I think it might be difficult to carry a laptop and shop - gets in the way when looking at the goods on the shelves!
28
Jb
07/12/2020 11:28:33 4 8
bbc
Where are the police to stop people breaking the social distancing regulations?! Many will die as a result of this stupidity.
46
07/12/2020 11:51:34 7 0
bbc
Too busy being woke
15
07/12/2020 10:50:21 47 11
bbc
Nice to see the sensible people out and about adhering to social distancing and wearing their masks - not.

And all to buy more stuff they don't need with money they don't have.
47
07/12/2020 11:51:47 17 4
bbc
It's the capitalist mindset: we need more stuff, while not caring about others so much. Covid has exposed the flaws in both the system and the society generated from it.
63
07/12/2020 12:02:19 5 3
bbc
Presumably that's why the Chinese, North Korean and Russian socialist states are renowned for their caring attitude to their populations ?
33
DG
07/12/2020 11:38:38 13 11
bbc
Lockdown lifted and the streets are full of Snowflakes with no masks, again.
Why do they not understand that their actions are prolonging this crises and affecting the high street/retail jobs when restrictions are put in place.
48
07/12/2020 11:51:56 6 6
bbc
Agreed. Often have to walk on road with numpties not wearing masks to pass them by and they don't give way either.
So sad these people.
59
07/12/2020 12:00:32 4 4
bbc
Scientific survey in Denmark proved that wearing a mask was ineffective anyway
62
07/12/2020 12:00:24 5 2
bbc
The fact that you expect that people should 'give way' to you tells us more about you than them.
87
07/12/2020 12:47:55 1 1
bbc
The fact that people are being criticised for not wearing a mask outdoors shows how far from the real risk people's focus has gone. Seriously, concentrate on what causes transmission, being crammed in to poorly ventilated indoor spaces, not walking down the street.
93
07/12/2020 12:56:01 1 1
bbc
your the sad one if you walk into the road rather than spend a fraction of a second in proximity of someone else, you have more likelihood of getting knocked over than you have of catching a virus, especially as you say you are muzzled up, stop being such a drama queen
107
Pip
07/12/2020 13:16:20 0 0
bbc
Here in the South West very few wear masks in the street, they do in the shops, doesn't make us sad, you on the other hand..........?
30
07/12/2020 11:30:20 5 7
bbc
What is wrong that people aren't doing social distancing or masks. This is not a joke. What do you really need that causes this shop chaos.
Oh are these the same people who don't have money to feed their kids?
Just bought a whole chicken at Tesco, half price with club card. That's at least two meals, then use the carcass for soup with vegs.. Good cooking...
49
37p
07/12/2020 11:52:27 5 4
bbc
Confusing post. You complain that people shouldn't go to the shops then say people are short of money and then say you've just been to the shops (after saying they shouldn't go to the shops) and then how thrifty you are having been shopping!

What's the point you're trying to make?
96
07/12/2020 13:01:29 0 1
bbc
This is not a joke 37p, righteous Carolyn has spoken.
33
DG
07/12/2020 11:38:38 13 11
bbc
Lockdown lifted and the streets are full of Snowflakes with no masks, again.
Why do they not understand that their actions are prolonging this crises and affecting the high street/retail jobs when restrictions are put in place.
50
07/12/2020 11:42:45 8 3
bbc
You do not need to wear masks when out side they are doing nothing wrong.
44
07/12/2020 11:48:23 6 3
bbc
Actually it does make sense to have different rules indoors and outdoors.
51
07/12/2020 11:52:48 5 2
bbc
That's why they have all those signs outside reading, 'Observe social distancing' then?
57
37p
07/12/2020 11:59:27 2 2
bbc
Doesn't mean they are the same rules - just means be careful
52
07/12/2020 11:52:59 11 2
bbc
Weekend shopping returns but numbers down on 2019......really....where do they find these statistics...it's not rocket science!
26
07/12/2020 11:24:45 8 22
bbc
I would too but I couldn't support a brexiter who has shot himself in the foot and is now hungry.
53
07/12/2020 11:53:24 10 2
bbc
What a stupid comment.
54
07/12/2020 11:46:22 22 1
bbc
Rush to shop no surprise! Would be the same reaction when the pubs open. Trouble is by showing no respect to safety/rules you just increase the chances of lockdown 3. If we show a more measure approach then perhaps this can be avoided.
Many people can't do Xmas either due to loss of their job, prolonged furlough and illness - think of them too, Only when the virus is controlled will this improve.
55
07/12/2020 11:57:49 5 2
bbc
Maybe some people will give using the simplicity of a phone call or video chat. A smile costs nothing, neither does a 'how are you?' Christmas is not the only time you can give to people freely and without adverts with a buffalo and deserts and a highly paid actor. Stay healthy and don't fall into the trap that you must buy happiness each year. Sit this one out with your loved ones, covid wont.
64
37p
07/12/2020 12:03:14 3 8
bbc
Been chatting to the Samaritans recently?
45
07/12/2020 11:49:42 2 1
bbc
Basically, yes, if you want any choice
56
37p
07/12/2020 11:58:40 2 2
bbc
I think it might be difficult to carry a laptop and shop - gets in the way when looking at the goods on the shelves!
89
07/12/2020 12:50:24 1 0
bbc
Your little phone is a computer you know..
51
07/12/2020 11:52:48 5 2
bbc
That's why they have all those signs outside reading, 'Observe social distancing' then?
57
37p
07/12/2020 11:59:27 2 2
bbc
Doesn't mean they are the same rules - just means be careful
40
07/12/2020 11:45:37 22 5
bbc
And scientists and politicians feel the need to close down quiet country pubs,restaraunts and cafes because of virus transmissions ?? I have heard of more people catching this from hospitals !
58
07/12/2020 12:00:01 11 4
bbc
People don't choose to go to hospitals. It's out of necessity.
67
37p
07/12/2020 12:05:12 4 2
bbc
That's even more reason why this doesn't make sense!
48
07/12/2020 11:51:56 6 6
bbc
Agreed. Often have to walk on road with numpties not wearing masks to pass them by and they don't give way either.
So sad these people.
59
07/12/2020 12:00:32 4 4
bbc
Scientific survey in Denmark proved that wearing a mask was ineffective anyway
109
Pip
07/12/2020 13:19:16 1 0
bbc
That's been the majority scientific view from the outset, because of the size of the virus. Social Distancing is definitely effective, but mask wearers don't Socially Distance, do they........?
40
07/12/2020 11:45:37 22 5
bbc
And scientists and politicians feel the need to close down quiet country pubs,restaraunts and cafes because of virus transmissions ?? I have heard of more people catching this from hospitals !
60
07/12/2020 12:00:36 5 5
bbc
A neice of my neighbour who is a nurse in critical care
Was told to go home as she wasn’t needed, and this was in the 1st lockdown when apparently we were in deep trouble, and armegedon was on the horizon
137
07/12/2020 15:50:31 1 0
bbc
It would depend where your friends daughter was a critical care nurse. If she works in a hospital in an area where the infection rate is lower then it was good that the hospital was letting staff have days off.
61
07/12/2020 11:57:08 10 6
bbc
Well done shoppers, no masks, no social distancing, whilst the rest of us have been locked down since March, and respecting our fellows by following the rules for the safety of all. In 2 weeks time will it have been worth the risk.
70
07/12/2020 12:07:09 1 12
bbc
Get over it dear; we've got a vaccine now. Haven't you heard?
85
07/12/2020 12:46:14 0 2
bbc
Laughable comment, be braver.
48
07/12/2020 11:51:56 6 6
bbc
Agreed. Often have to walk on road with numpties not wearing masks to pass them by and they don't give way either.
So sad these people.
62
07/12/2020 12:00:24 5 2
bbc
The fact that you expect that people should 'give way' to you tells us more about you than them.
47
07/12/2020 11:51:47 17 4
bbc
It's the capitalist mindset: we need more stuff, while not caring about others so much. Covid has exposed the flaws in both the system and the society generated from it.
63
07/12/2020 12:02:19 5 3
bbc
Presumably that's why the Chinese, North Korean and Russian socialist states are renowned for their caring attitude to their populations ?
148
07/12/2020 16:39:59 2 0
bbc
There is a difference between democratic principles and economic systems, right-wing dictatorships have existed as much as left-wing ones. Besides, there are more systems than just the well known ones.
55
07/12/2020 11:57:49 5 2
bbc
Maybe some people will give using the simplicity of a phone call or video chat. A smile costs nothing, neither does a 'how are you?' Christmas is not the only time you can give to people freely and without adverts with a buffalo and deserts and a highly paid actor. Stay healthy and don't fall into the trap that you must buy happiness each year. Sit this one out with your loved ones, covid wont.
64
37p
07/12/2020 12:03:14 3 8
bbc
Been chatting to the Samaritans recently?
32
07/12/2020 11:34:33 28 6
bbc
By shutting shops for a month the government has created a shopping bottleneck. It's like bending a hose pipe under pressure, the pressure just builds until it is forced from the tap on the wall or finds another weak spot.
It was madness, and added to the Christmas household mixing rules, another spike in late January is inevitable. Nothing is ever learned in the land of the stupid.
65
07/12/2020 12:03:20 12 5
bbc
So would you prefer the bottleneck to be in the acute wards in hospital?
28
Jb
07/12/2020 11:28:33 4 8
bbc
Where are the police to stop people breaking the social distancing regulations?! Many will die as a result of this stupidity.
66
bbc
It’s been a con
60k+ people haven’t died of covid19
At most 6k have died because of it
Wen u think 44-50k people die every year because of sepsis
It kind of sums it up
People need to get a grip on reality
Removed
58
07/12/2020 12:00:01 11 4
bbc
People don't choose to go to hospitals. It's out of necessity.
67
37p
07/12/2020 12:05:12 4 2
bbc
That's even more reason why this doesn't make sense!
68
07/12/2020 12:06:09 4 1
bbc
If it was 30% more than last year then the negative headlines would have been people not adhereing to social distancing, 30% down on last year should be a positive in a pandemic, this is not a normal year, why find the negativity in every story?
72
37p
07/12/2020 12:10:29 6 0
bbc
I think it depends on on where you fit in.
If you have a shop much of the income is made around Christmas so it is negative as you're not making so much income.
If you look at it from a virus view, it's probably not bad.

But as we all know the media will always go for the negative headlines and choose a perspective that fits it.
100
Pip
07/12/2020 13:05:49 0 0
bbc
It sells 'advertising led' news footfall, the truth is immatrerial...........?
69
07/12/2020 12:06:49 11 0
bbc
I live in London and am horrified at these pictures and some Covent Gardens ones I saw somewhere else. I haven't been into Central London on a weekend since the first lockdown ended, because of stupidity like this, protests, etc. Actually went into town on Friday (i.e. before all this) - very few people around, most were wearing masks, and such a much nicer experience.
84
07/12/2020 12:45:05 3 5
bbc
If you're truly horrified, Londoner, by scenes of people Christmas shopping, perhaps you need to re-evaluate your priorities.
108
07/12/2020 13:02:51 4 0
bbc
I live 400 yards from the centre of the city I live in and havent shopped in the centre for 10 years. I do know where your coming from Thank you and well done. Nothing would induce me to shop amongst that throng but I do understand that that others enjoy it Given the vaccine is almost with us you wont have much longer to wait
61
07/12/2020 11:57:08 10 6
bbc
Well done shoppers, no masks, no social distancing, whilst the rest of us have been locked down since March, and respecting our fellows by following the rules for the safety of all. In 2 weeks time will it have been worth the risk.
70
07/12/2020 12:07:09 1 12
bbc
Get over it dear; we've got a vaccine now. Haven't you heard?
71
07/12/2020 12:10:02 4 0
bbc
No vaccine for the under 50's for months though, if they're starting with frontline workers and care homes first, etc. I'm 41 and don't see myself getting a vaccine before Easter.
70
07/12/2020 12:07:09 1 12
bbc
Get over it dear; we've got a vaccine now. Haven't you heard?
71
07/12/2020 12:10:02 4 0
bbc
No vaccine for the under 50's for months though, if they're starting with frontline workers and care homes first, etc. I'm 41 and don't see myself getting a vaccine before Easter.
90
07/12/2020 12:51:31 1 2
bbc
stay in then until its your turn, meanwhile everyone else isn't necessary scared of a bad cold
68
07/12/2020 12:06:09 4 1
bbc
If it was 30% more than last year then the negative headlines would have been people not adhereing to social distancing, 30% down on last year should be a positive in a pandemic, this is not a normal year, why find the negativity in every story?
72
37p
07/12/2020 12:10:29 6 0
bbc
I think it depends on on where you fit in.
If you have a shop much of the income is made around Christmas so it is negative as you're not making so much income.
If you look at it from a virus view, it's probably not bad.

But as we all know the media will always go for the negative headlines and choose a perspective that fits it.
73
07/12/2020 12:11:56 3 3
bbc
Judging by the concerted effort to mark down many of the comments here, coupled with some of the dumb contradictions, it's pretty clear what the predominant attitude now is.
74
bdp
07/12/2020 12:19:21 13 3
bbc
Well looking at the main picture on thd story I have no idea how London has managed to be only in T2 other than fiddling the stats
78
07/12/2020 12:23:38 2 2
bbc
The main picture is very deceptive. The angle taken really foreshortens the view. It covers a 500m length of Regent Street, so on that basis it doesn't look particularly packed to me.
75
07/12/2020 12:16:05 22 1
bbc
Who thought it was a good idea to open a market in Nottingham needs shooting.
117
07/12/2020 13:40:19 15 0
bbc
That would be Nottingham City Council ... who lost £38 million of tax payers money earlier this year with the mismanagement and subsequent failure of Robin Hood Energy !!
76
07/12/2020 12:23:20 8 2
bbc
I would "FORCE" them to have a substantial meal before they buy anything
27
07/12/2020 11:15:07 1 2
bbc
Why are comments not appearing here, either as replies or stand alone comments?
77
37p
07/12/2020 12:27:18 3 0
bbc
This post intrigues me.

If you think comments aren't being posted then why post one?
Either you think they are being posted which isn't what you're asking or they aren't in which case there's no point in trying!

Strange!
74
bdp
07/12/2020 12:19:21 13 3
bbc
Well looking at the main picture on thd story I have no idea how London has managed to be only in T2 other than fiddling the stats
78
07/12/2020 12:23:38 2 2
bbc
The main picture is very deceptive. The angle taken really foreshortens the view. It covers a 500m length of Regent Street, so on that basis it doesn't look particularly packed to me.
79
07/12/2020 12:36:52 0 0
bbc
MONEY IS SHORT,SIMPLE.
4
07/12/2020 10:31:56 6 14
bbc
Personally, I haven't stepped inside a shop since March.

There is nothing you can't buy online.
80
37p
07/12/2020 12:37:08 0 1
bbc
That's not true.

I live in a town that thrives on individuality and small independent shops. Much of what they offer is not online.

It's true that online shopping is great for branded goods where you can compare prices. It's also true that there are some individuals online but personally I like meeting shop owners and seeing how they operate.
12
07/12/2020 10:45:13 51 12
bbc
Did 100% of my Christmas shopping online

Much as I loathe some online retailers, I also loathe being sat in traffic, paying through the nose for parking and the 'shopping experience' that is hordes of mardy frustrated people

I sat and ordered it from the comfort of my arm chair with a brew and had it delivered to my door

Then spent quality time with my family

I make no apologies for any of it
81
07/12/2020 12:40:54 15 1
bbc
100% this. Gave some thought as to what to buy over a few days, went online and everything was ordered in under an hour. Bought from some vibrant, smaller retailers and am looking forward to it all arriving now.
82
07/12/2020 12:42:13 4 1
bbc
Shopping Malls!?, are we in LA? I believe the local vernacular would be 'Center', thats Shopping Center. Thanks.
86
37p
07/12/2020 12:47:31 6 1
bbc
"Center or Centre–Which Is Right? | Grammarly
www.grammarly.com › blog › center-centre
Center is the correct spelling in American English, but British English writers usually prefer centre"

That Shopping Centre in the UK
88
07/12/2020 12:49:40 2 0
bbc
Or shopping centre even.
91
07/12/2020 12:54:18 1 0
bbc
I hope the irony was intentional? In the UK we go to Shopping CentREs.
102
07/12/2020 13:09:42 1 0
bbc
Err! I think we call the "centres" actually :)
14
07/12/2020 10:48:40 28 5
bbc
Lost one of my family, miss her more than I'll ever miss shopping in town. Done all my Christmas shopping online this year. Every online retailer has been very efficient and I've done it all in warmth and comfort of home.
Even small independent retailers have adapted really well
83
07/12/2020 12:42:57 12 0
bbc
So sorry for your loss.

I too love the variety of items you see when browsing small independent online retailers. Much better than most of the overpriced tat in the town centre/retail park chains.
69
07/12/2020 12:06:49 11 0
bbc
I live in London and am horrified at these pictures and some Covent Gardens ones I saw somewhere else. I haven't been into Central London on a weekend since the first lockdown ended, because of stupidity like this, protests, etc. Actually went into town on Friday (i.e. before all this) - very few people around, most were wearing masks, and such a much nicer experience.
84
07/12/2020 12:45:05 3 5
bbc
If you're truly horrified, Londoner, by scenes of people Christmas shopping, perhaps you need to re-evaluate your priorities.
159
07/12/2020 19:06:01 2 0
bbc
The problem isn't the Christmas shopping - I DID say I did my own the day before. The problem is the horde of people not giving a toss about a global pandemic and spreading germs to other people.
61
07/12/2020 11:57:08 10 6
bbc
Well done shoppers, no masks, no social distancing, whilst the rest of us have been locked down since March, and respecting our fellows by following the rules for the safety of all. In 2 weeks time will it have been worth the risk.
85
07/12/2020 12:46:14 0 2
bbc
Laughable comment, be braver.
82
07/12/2020 12:42:13 4 1
bbc
Shopping Malls!?, are we in LA? I believe the local vernacular would be 'Center', thats Shopping Center. Thanks.
86
37p
07/12/2020 12:47:31 6 1
bbc
"Center or Centre–Which Is Right? | Grammarly
www.grammarly.com › blog › center-centre
Center is the correct spelling in American English, but British English writers usually prefer centre"

That Shopping Centre in the UK
97
Pip
07/12/2020 13:01:58 1 0
bbc
'Center' is American, 'Centre' is English. American is a form of basic English, as is Australian, Canadian, etc. it took us many hundreds of years to get where we are not just a couple of hundred............?
106
07/12/2020 13:16:19 4 0
bbc
Bravo, I stand corrected.
I was getting my center mixed up with your centre. What a mistaker to make. Off to grammarly I go.
48
07/12/2020 11:51:56 6 6
bbc
Agreed. Often have to walk on road with numpties not wearing masks to pass them by and they don't give way either.
So sad these people.
87
07/12/2020 12:47:55 1 1
bbc
The fact that people are being criticised for not wearing a mask outdoors shows how far from the real risk people's focus has gone. Seriously, concentrate on what causes transmission, being crammed in to poorly ventilated indoor spaces, not walking down the street.
82
07/12/2020 12:42:13 4 1
bbc
Shopping Malls!?, are we in LA? I believe the local vernacular would be 'Center', thats Shopping Center. Thanks.
88
07/12/2020 12:49:40 2 0
bbc
Or shopping centre even.
56
37p
07/12/2020 11:58:40 2 2
bbc
I think it might be difficult to carry a laptop and shop - gets in the way when looking at the goods on the shelves!
89
07/12/2020 12:50:24 1 0
bbc
Your little phone is a computer you know..
71
07/12/2020 12:10:02 4 0
bbc
No vaccine for the under 50's for months though, if they're starting with frontline workers and care homes first, etc. I'm 41 and don't see myself getting a vaccine before Easter.
90
07/12/2020 12:51:31 1 2
bbc
stay in then until its your turn, meanwhile everyone else isn't necessary scared of a bad cold
82
07/12/2020 12:42:13 4 1
bbc
Shopping Malls!?, are we in LA? I believe the local vernacular would be 'Center', thats Shopping Center. Thanks.
91
07/12/2020 12:54:18 1 0
bbc
I hope the irony was intentional? In the UK we go to Shopping CentREs.
33
DG
07/12/2020 11:38:38 13 11
bbc
Lockdown lifted and the streets are full of Snowflakes with no masks, again.
Why do they not understand that their actions are prolonging this crises and affecting the high street/retail jobs when restrictions are put in place.
92
07/12/2020 12:54:54 2 1
bbc
I can't understand why anyone thinks you should wear a mask outside..
48
07/12/2020 11:51:56 6 6
bbc
Agreed. Often have to walk on road with numpties not wearing masks to pass them by and they don't give way either.
So sad these people.
93
07/12/2020 12:56:01 1 1
bbc
your the sad one if you walk into the road rather than spend a fraction of a second in proximity of someone else, you have more likelihood of getting knocked over than you have of catching a virus, especially as you say you are muzzled up, stop being such a drama queen
94
07/12/2020 12:56:06 4 0
bbc
Looking at the two photographs I will carry on staying close to home and order on-line.
32
07/12/2020 11:34:33 28 6
bbc
By shutting shops for a month the government has created a shopping bottleneck. It's like bending a hose pipe under pressure, the pressure just builds until it is forced from the tap on the wall or finds another weak spot.
It was madness, and added to the Christmas household mixing rules, another spike in late January is inevitable. Nothing is ever learned in the land of the stupid.
95
07/12/2020 12:57:09 0 1
bbc
At government level i.e. Bullingdon fat man. The economy is mostly what they are concerned with, start there..
49
37p
07/12/2020 11:52:27 5 4
bbc
Confusing post. You complain that people shouldn't go to the shops then say people are short of money and then say you've just been to the shops (after saying they shouldn't go to the shops) and then how thrifty you are having been shopping!

What's the point you're trying to make?
96
07/12/2020 13:01:29 0 1
bbc
This is not a joke 37p, righteous Carolyn has spoken.
86
37p
07/12/2020 12:47:31 6 1
bbc
"Center or Centre–Which Is Right? | Grammarly
www.grammarly.com › blog › center-centre
Center is the correct spelling in American English, but British English writers usually prefer centre"

That Shopping Centre in the UK
97
Pip
07/12/2020 13:01:58 1 0
bbc
'Center' is American, 'Centre' is English. American is a form of basic English, as is Australian, Canadian, etc. it took us many hundreds of years to get where we are not just a couple of hundred............?
29
07/12/2020 11:29:13 7 9
bbc
These people are trying very hard to make sure their old relatives do not survive the new year.
98
07/12/2020 13:02:51 0 1
bbc
By respectfully going about their daily business.. the fiends!!
24
07/12/2020 11:21:07 10 10
bbc
Large crowds shopping, buy lots of plastic rubbish which will be consigned to the dustbin in a few weeks is what xmas is all about.

This year, along with colds and flu, you may get a viral pressie as well which could truly ruin your life.

Idiots!!
99
07/12/2020 13:04:54 0 2
bbc
Harsh Terry! have a lie down.
68
07/12/2020 12:06:09 4 1
bbc
If it was 30% more than last year then the negative headlines would have been people not adhereing to social distancing, 30% down on last year should be a positive in a pandemic, this is not a normal year, why find the negativity in every story?
100
Pip
07/12/2020 13:05:49 0 0
bbc
It sells 'advertising led' news footfall, the truth is immatrerial...........?