Mercedes 'impressed but not surprised' as Russell shines
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Mercedes "impressed but not surprised" by George Russell's impressive performance through practice and qualifying for the Sakhir Grand Prix.
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take all those trophies hami won at merc away frm him and give them to people working at mercs engine and chassis dept. hami got exposed today
Quite impressed with this Russell bloke. Should be exciting tomorrow...plenty of chances for incidents with such a crowded track.
Just goes to show that it's not the driver, it's the car.
Perhaps Hamilton will take note and start showing some humility for a change.
Perhaps Hamilton will take note and start showing some humility for a change.
I couldn’t agree more, superficial, shallow and insincere individual is Hamilton
Yes Leslie! Well written and a revolutionary comment. Your mum is ready with with your Horlicks and custard creams.
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Hamilton will be the most successful F1 driver for many years to come.
They’ll be talking about his greatness on all shows, he’ll get knighted, win SPOTY - and it’ll be all the sweeter with the sweaty angry anti Hamilton fans crying about it!
They’ll be talking about his greatness on all shows, he’ll get knighted, win SPOTY - and it’ll be all the sweeter with the sweaty angry anti Hamilton fans crying about it!
Just about sums up F1 at the min, all about the car and little about the drivers ability
Isn't this what everyone says at the end of every race, but are shouted down as haters (or worst) cause their insulting Hamilton?? Or could it be that the car is just far superior to anything else so being a massive advantage??
Hamilton beat a cheating Vettel despite the Ferrari's superiority. You really should watch before commenting
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he is a great driver who has had the advantage of being in the best car overall.
there may well be a handful of faster drivers in the field but not many have his race craft which when added to the fastest car makes it almost unbeatable.
this is however no different to any other f1 great.the best of the 2 drivers in the fastest car wins the championship
there may well be a handful of faster drivers in the field but not many have his race craft which when added to the fastest car makes it almost unbeatable.
this is however no different to any other f1 great.the best of the 2 drivers in the fastest car wins the championship
Just goes to show that it's not the driver, it's the car.
Perhaps Hamilton will take note and start showing some humility for a change.
Perhaps Hamilton will take note and start showing some humility for a change.
My comment got removed. Was a personal comment at the person who posted. How is this unsubstantiated attack on Hamilton not breaking house rules. Has nothing to do with the article as was mine to make a point...can we remove irrelevant comments from posts like this one?
Mercedes do not need Hamilton.
Sign Russell instead and save a small fortune.
Proves Hamilton is not the best driver, he's just in the best car.
Hope Russell is in the Merc for the last race too.
Sign Russell instead and save a small fortune.
Proves Hamilton is not the best driver, he's just in the best car.
Hope Russell is in the Merc for the last race too.
Hehe yeah Bottas is the best driver. Hamilton is easily in the bottom half of drivers...
You're better than sleeping tablets.
Totally agree. £40m a year HAM salary.....looks eye watering when they could secure George for a couple of million.
Because Russell couldn't beat VB in the same car? You making this statement without Russell even winning a single race. Wow you legend you must know more than the entire Mercedes team!
Brian, you either don’t get or your not bright. Hamilton is by far the best drive of this generation, Russel will win races but his not at Lewis’s level.
Armchair experts are funny - takes F1 drivers to acknowledge each other. Verstappen's maturity reflecting on Hamilton and Sainz acknowledging Russell's speed.
Armchair experts with no hope of ever driging anything beyond 75mph on the motorway however know better?
Armchair experts with no hope of ever driging anything beyond 75mph on the motorway however know better?
Imagine mad Max in a Merc!
So far Russell has stepped up well but tomorrow is the crunch I guess.
Will he lead the BLM salute with the same vigour Hamilton does?
Will he lead the BLM salute with the same vigour Hamilton does?
He should not. All that should stop. Absolutely no need for it.
What exactly does Hamilton lead? He just likes to be centre of attention, that's not being a leader...
Seriously though, you clearly have an infatuation with lewis and your comments suggest an attitude and world view best left in the 70's.
Imagine mad Max in a Merc!
Too hot headed & inconsistent. He is not cool!
Unlikely - Max doesn't seem to have Lewis' feel for tyre wear and is still often hotheaded.
If that's the case why is Max trying to block Checo getting the RBR seat?
Hamilton is the best, but Russell did very well. Good prospect for the future.
hamilton not the best driver the cars he drives are the best not the driver give knighthood to mercedes cars proof today
You are so incorrect, what you should be saying is that the car is the best, put Hamilton in a Hass he would finish at the back of the pack.
Obviously no one gets a musical about themselves unless they've done something pretty amazing - for example Evita, Buddy and Miss Saigon - sure Andrew Lloyd Webber gets his share but still fantastic to see your name up in lights - how good is Russell at singing?
So far Russell has stepped up well but tomorrow is the crunch I guess.
Will he lead the BLM salute with the same vigour Hamilton does?
Will he lead the BLM salute with the same vigour Hamilton does?
When racism goes the protests will go. Until then, the movement, the noise, the anti racists will get louder and louder.
Stop? Are you saying racism is not real?
Russell is the real deal, hope he makes it to the full Mercedes team someday but let's not ignore LeClerc dragging his Ferrari up to 4th place.
I'm a Hamilton fan but I have a soft spot for young Charles.
I'm a Hamilton fan but I have a soft spot for young Charles.
This is a great comment. On the shorter lap it seems it has allowed a bit more driver influence.
Agree 100%. It said it all that CL got out of his car and didn't go for a final run. F1 has an exciting future and CL is undoubtedly exceptional, as was his qualy
So far Russell has stepped up well but tomorrow is the crunch I guess.
Will he lead the BLM salute with the same vigour Hamilton does?
Will he lead the BLM salute with the same vigour Hamilton does?
You have the fastest car you win, not really that impressive that is why Lewis wins all the while.
So ,you've NEVER watched F1 then, or did you just not learn anything?
It's true that the most successful drivers tend to get the fastest cars, but there's so much more than just the machinery. The physical endurance and mental concentration required to string together even one lap is beyond almost all keyboard warriors, and to do it sixty times whilst maintaining a strategy and under the pressure of opponents is a very special skill set indeed.
Avondale47
What a nasty load of comments. Why do you think Mercedes pay a fortune to Lewis Hamilton, for fun? or do they know more about drivers capabilities then the morons commenting on this HYS? Removed
What a nasty load of comments. Why do you think Mercedes pay a fortune to Lewis Hamilton, for fun? or do they know more about drivers capabilities then the morons commenting on this HYS? Removed
The closet racists are celebrating the coming of their "Great White Hope". Its pretty spineless they way they deny who they are whilst they spout nonsense about tax but lets face it, thats what all closet racists do.
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That’s exactly why the BBC opened this article for comments, they just can’t help having a dig at LH, it’s obsessional. But hey, it’s all just waffle in the end.
Nothing anyone writes on here makes a blind bit of difference to LH’s records.
Good luck tomorrow GR, go well.
Nothing anyone writes on here makes a blind bit of difference to LH’s records.
Good luck tomorrow GR, go well.
The exact answer I give to all of the arrogant racists who fill these pages with their own particularly nasty brand of bile. No one would pay Hamilton’s fees if they thought that someone else could deliver the same value and results.
No World Champion Past or Present would win a title driving a Haas or Williams - but I’m pretty sure they would in a Red Bull or Mercedes.
World Champions are so because they were driving the best cars - which they helped to build with their feedback.
World Champions are so because they were driving the best cars - which they helped to build with their feedback.
Yes, it's a combination of both car and driver. And when the cars are the same (i.e. Botas' car) Hamilton virtually always wins.
because he is the most marketable driver in the sport by a large margin that's why, they would never put a competitive driver against him, don't be so naive it's all about the cash, big corporations rule this planet...
Yeah but Lewis is just such an unlikeable guy. Nothing to do with his skin colour, more his arrogance, stupid style and non-sensical rants about social welfare. He hasn't got a clue. Also, he is the face of racing capitalism, literally bought and raised by a company to make them more money. Suppose Messi isn't all that dis-similar in that respect.
Do you not think they are asking themselves that same question !!!
Interesting how the comments have been shut down by the BBC in the months leading up Lewis securing the title but have now opened up on steroids with George being put in the Merc.
Seems that Lewis breaking record after record becoming the most successful driver in history is not worthy of comments but this is?
BBC are making clear who their preferred Brit is.
Seems that Lewis breaking record after record becoming the most successful driver in history is not worthy of comments but this is?
BBC are making clear who their preferred Brit is.
No, it was just that Lewis's social agenda would rile the racists. Why do you think the BBC are doing a special award for Marcus Rashford and what he's done for child poverty rather than leave it to the kind of "fan" who wants to denigrate Lewis or any other ethnic minority sportsperson doing well?
Look what happens whenever an HYS is open on Serena - it's open season for the nastiest comments.
Look what happens whenever an HYS is open on Serena - it's open season for the nastiest comments.
So far Russell has stepped up well but tomorrow is the crunch I guess.
Will he lead the BLM salute with the same vigour Hamilton does?
Will he lead the BLM salute with the same vigour Hamilton does?
Just goes to show that it's not the driver, it's the car.
Perhaps Hamilton will take note and start showing some humility for a change.
Perhaps Hamilton will take note and start showing some humility for a change.
Yep feel sorry for Hamilton no doubt using a public healthcare system, the type he avoids paying into.
Absolutely! With you being in the 5000 top tax payers I am 100% behind this comment
Looks like the 2 Mercedes could be closely matched.
I predict an on track incident, and Perez picks up his first win, and the available red bull seat
I predict an on track incident, and Perez picks up his first win, and the available red bull seat
Just because your universal credit is taxed
Just about sums up F1 at the min, all about the car and little about the drivers ability
Good thing the drivers understand why Mercedes need Hamilton. The arm chair experts can learn a thing or two from Verstappen and Russel who did fantastic, I hope he wins!
If Hamilton wants to prove himself as the best driver he must allow Verstappen to race alongside him in the other Merc. But he's scared, so he demands sub-par teammates like Rosberg (who he even lost to once) & Bottas
All he's has proven is that he's better than Rosberg and Bottas. If he wants to be considered as the GOAT, he needs to race alongside and consistently beat someone like Verstappen.
All he's has proven is that he's better than Rosberg and Bottas. If he wants to be considered as the GOAT, he needs to race alongside and consistently beat someone like Verstappen.
I hope George wins too, I think he would be a good ambassador for Britain for Lewis to hand the torch to.
But it can't be denied that we are seeing once again the same pattern we saw with Jenson/Lewis and Rosberg/Lewis with armies of people hyping them up with nonsense arguments whilst attacking Lewis with nonsense arguments.
To say race is not playing a part in driving this is to be naive,
But it can't be denied that we are seeing once again the same pattern we saw with Jenson/Lewis and Rosberg/Lewis with armies of people hyping them up with nonsense arguments whilst attacking Lewis with nonsense arguments.
To say race is not playing a part in driving this is to be naive,
Goodness gracious. How bitter are you?
Open ur eyes u bitter fool
You are wrong. Listen to the other drivers, they are the experts.
Germany is a Republic
We are fortunate that knighthoods are given to people who achive something, and impact the sport or industry they work in to improve peoples lives and dreams. Hence why Lewis will get one. Unlike you, who can't even write a proper gramatical sentence without putting a proper fact or sensible comment on the table.
oh dear you can’t read or refuse to understand, your opinion is ill informed, biased and irrelevant to real f1 fans
Does your comment have racist undertones? I would say yes it does. It was Hamilton who got his car over the racing lines in one of the 2 British GPs this year on 3 wheels. In Turkey starting off in 6th position kept his cool when every other driver was losing their composure to win that GP.
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Been at the whiskey?
I'll take my guidance on who is the best from my own eyes and literate people. This excludes you Coco.
No World Champion Past or Present would win a title driving a Haas or Williams - but I’m pretty sure they would in a Red Bull or Mercedes.
World Champions are so because they were driving the best cars - which they helped to build with their feedback
World Champions are so because they were driving the best cars - which they helped to build with their feedback
Obvious troll is obvious
pratt
Every single driver in F1 acknowledge Hamilton as the best driver currently in F1. No one outside the sport knows better than them.
agreed plus SPOTY this year at least the car has a personality!!!...
exactly
Your village called.
They want their idiot back.
Go. Removed
They want their idiot back.
Go. Removed
Agree 100% stick Hamilton in the same car as Verstappen and then see who is the best. Hamilton is good but the advantage of a car 10x better than the rest makes him look better than he is. Once he is under pressure listen to his crying as he cannot handle it. As for the knighthood we all know why that is. He can't accept it though as its part of the empire that has an history of slavery.
You have the fastest car you win, not really that impressive that is why Lewis wins all the while.
Won when he had the fastest car (Red Bull). Hasn't since and hasn't won a championship since. Absolutely proving the point you were trying to argue
Vettel won 4 championships in the fastest car. Actually kind of proves his point. As it's clear Vettel was not the best driver on the grid during those periods.
I am convinced Max would beat Hamilton in same car. And i think LeClerc most likely can as well. Lets be honest, Rosberg got the best of Hamilton one season and he was nothing special.
I am convinced Max would beat Hamilton in same car. And i think LeClerc most likely can as well. Lets be honest, Rosberg got the best of Hamilton one season and he was nothing special.
Yes, Hamilton only wins because he is in the best car that’s why Bottas has has the same number of wins as Hamilton as they have the same Mercedes set up. Oh wait.....
Hamilton deserves everything that has come of his career but what Russell has shown is that f1 would be a lot better if there was a more competitive field spread. Some of the f2 and f3 races this season have been brilliant watches because of the similar chassis to all teams.
Let’s hope in 2022 when the regulations change it will be like the beginning of 2012 when a lot of different winners won.
Let’s hope in 2022 when the regulations change it will be like the beginning of 2012 when a lot of different winners won.
Thankyou. Can Hamilton fans please realise that we all know Hamilton is a good driver. But it's killing F1 to just have 1 driver from 1 team winning pretty much every thing. So boring to watch unless you're a Hamilton fan. Kind of like French football where PSG win every year.
Hamilton will never be universally recognised as the GOAT whilst his car is the only good car.
Hamilton will never be universally recognised as the GOAT whilst his car is the only good car.
Thank goodness we can see the battle in th midfield rather than schumacher era when the tv directors followed the lead car 99% of the time
Its quite clear now that the BBC is not trying to stop the trolling, they're facilitating it.
All these articles with comments suddenly because George is in the Merc but they virtually shut down comments as Lewis approached and made history getting his 7th title.
All these articles with comments suddenly because George is in the Merc but they virtually shut down comments as Lewis approached and made history getting his 7th title.
Out of curiosity
Do you think the BBC are anti Hamilton?
You haven’t mentioned it much ????
Do you think the BBC are anti Hamilton?
You haven’t mentioned it much ????
They don't like to be seen to sensor criticism of them, so let drivel like your post remain on the site, cluttering up a discussion with off topic spam
Interesting how the comments have been shut down by the BBC in the months leading up Lewis securing the title but have now opened up on steroids with George being put in the Merc.
Seems that Lewis breaking record after record becoming the most successful driver in history is not worthy of comments but this is?
BBC are making clear who their preferred Brit is.
Seems that Lewis breaking record after record becoming the most successful driver in history is not worthy of comments but this is?
BBC are making clear who their preferred Brit is.
No, it was just that Lewis's social agenda would rile the racists. Why do you think the BBC are doing a special award for Marcus Rashford and what he's done for child poverty rather than leave it to the kind of "fan" who wants to denigrate Lewis or any other ethnic minority sportsperson doing well?
Look what happens whenever an HYS is open on Serena - it's open season for the nastiest comments.
Look what happens whenever an HYS is open on Serena - it's open season for the nastiest comments.
Don't make the mistake of assuming Lewis' actions or agenda riles racists because that is the favourite trick of the racists., trying to blame the target of their hate when the hate comes from them.
If Lewis did nothing but drive the racists would still invent nonsense to attack him with as you can see with that debunked tax double standard that only applies to Lewis and no other driver.
If Lewis did nothing but drive the racists would still invent nonsense to attack him with as you can see with that debunked tax double standard that only applies to Lewis and no other driver.
You shouldn’t confuse criticism with racism
Marcus is a top bloke.
Lewis is untested in a “normal” car.
Serena is a spoilt primadonna
Marcus is a top bloke.
Lewis is untested in a “normal” car.
Serena is a spoilt primadonna
There's that, and then there's his pathetic save the planet and veganism stuff.
He cannot help but appoint himself as spokesperson for all these causes.
He cannot help but appoint himself as spokesperson for all these causes.
Russell is the real deal, hope he makes it to the full Mercedes team someday but let's not ignore LeClerc dragging his Ferrari up to 4th place.
I'm a Hamilton fan but I have a soft spot for young Charles.
I'm a Hamilton fan but I have a soft spot for young Charles.
But that does not make him the best on the track, or justify some saying he is the best of all time, just better than his understudy - what a surprise. Stick him with someone who is considered better and we have a different story, but who would has the gumption to do that.
If Russell wins it will be an awkward winter / 2021 for Merc. Constant questions about why Bottas is still there, why is Russell wasting a year at Williams etc.
Merc will want to avoid all that so dont be surprised if Russell's car appears to be nerfed in the race. They'd be delighted for a boring 1-2 with Russell not putting any pressure on.
Merc will want to avoid all that so dont be surprised if Russell's car appears to be nerfed in the race. They'd be delighted for a boring 1-2 with Russell not putting any pressure on.
bottas is in the merc because he's a good, reliable second driver that wont challenge the lead driver much but who is generally there to pick up points as needed and act as a rear gunner.
people will understand why mercedes want it this way next season if perez goes to red bull as that will suddenly turn into a train wreck
people will understand why mercedes want it this way next season if perez goes to red bull as that will suddenly turn into a train wreck
Merc. will not allow him to win , he will be told to give it to Bottas, to save face ..
You are wasting your time buddy.
Avid F1 fans know it’s not just down to the car. Hamilton is an amazing driver.
The risks, snapshot decision making is first class.
Avid F1 fans know it’s not just down to the car. Hamilton is an amazing driver.
The risks, snapshot decision making is first class.
hamilton not the best driver the cars he drives are the best not the driver give knighthood to mercedes cars proof today
hamilton not the best driver the cars he drives are the best not the driver give knighthood to mercedes cars proof today
hamilton not the best driver the cars he drives are the best not the driver give knighthood to mercedes cars proof today
Formula 1 drivers talking to you, you must be somebody special
Its quite clear now that the BBC is not trying to stop the trolling, they're facilitating it.
All these articles with comments suddenly because George is in the Merc but they virtually shut down comments as Lewis approached and made history getting his 7th title.
All these articles with comments suddenly because George is in the Merc but they virtually shut down comments as Lewis approached and made history getting his 7th title.
Not a bad showing from young George, considering a) he hasn't driven the car before and b) he doesn't fit...
Here's hoping for a decent race.
Here's hoping for a decent race.
Totally agree, I hope he has a good race despite the fact that Hamilton haters and closet racists have adopted him and made him their new mascot in their battle to play down Lewis' record and achievements.
I don't know why but there is a certain satisfaction in making a valid comment which exposes the Hamilton haters so much that they can't challenge it and resort to comment removal.
I don't know why but there is a certain satisfaction in making a valid comment which exposes the Hamilton haters so much that they can't challenge it and resort to comment removal.
This weekend has shown what most people think - Hamilton in a great car is unstoppable. But a true great in a very bad car will always find a way to get close to pole position.
In my opinion, Senna and Clark could drive a mini and be close to pole - Hamilton however needs at least a good car to win.
Hamilton is good, but not in the league of a Clarke or Senna.
In my opinion, Senna and Clark could drive a mini and be close to pole - Hamilton however needs at least a good car to win.
Hamilton is good, but not in the league of a Clarke or Senna.
You clearly never saw Senna race, then. Useless if not in the best car, useless if not on pole, and crap at turning poles into wins. Had to deliberately smash others off the track to win two of his three titles. History's most dangerous F1 driver is his only true accolade.
Youre obviously wrong of course, but just to obliterate whatever weak arguement you may have, the difference between cars is now huge and as much as you might like to think otherwise, if you put any driver in history in the current grid in any car that isnt the mercedes, hamilton still wins.
if you think senna is getting near pole in a current williams or haas - or even a renault etc, youre mad.
if you think senna is getting near pole in a current williams or haas - or even a renault etc, youre mad.
Nice try Benson.
It does reflect badly on Hamilton and writing that it doesn’t, doesn’t make it so.
It does reflect badly on Hamilton and writing that it doesn’t, doesn’t make it so.
Russell if the car was fully adapted to him would be quicker, with Schumacher and Mazepin , Lando and others we could have an interesting future to view
Next few years in F1 will be interesting with the youth emerging.
Well done George Russell. New car to learn, new team to learn and a cockpit that's a squeeze and only .026 of a second off poll. Now bring on the race. Once again, well done Mr Russell
Just goes to show, my gran could drive that car and win, yawn
You have no clue about anything do you. Do you even know who George is ? Did you know he's achieved everything Lewis did before he raced in f1 ? George is the same level
Your gran has a super licence? How cool! Mine struggles to get to 70% of the speed limit in her Toyota Aygo
Brian, you either don’t get or your not bright. Hamilton is by far the best drive of this generation, Russel will win races but his not at Lewis’s level.
No, it was just that Lewis's social agenda would rile the racists. Why do you think the BBC are doing a special award for Marcus Rashford and what he's done for child poverty rather than leave it to the kind of "fan" who wants to denigrate Lewis or any other ethnic minority sportsperson doing well?
Look what happens whenever an HYS is open on Serena - it's open season for the nastiest comments.
Look what happens whenever an HYS is open on Serena - it's open season for the nastiest comments.
Don't make the mistake of assuming Lewis' actions or agenda riles racists because that is the favourite trick of the racists., trying to blame the target of their hate when the hate comes from them.
If Lewis did nothing but drive the racists would still invent nonsense to attack him with as you can see with that debunked tax double standard that only applies to Lewis and no other driver.
If Lewis did nothing but drive the racists would still invent nonsense to attack him with as you can see with that debunked tax double standard that only applies to Lewis and no other driver.
OMG, I’m sorry but you put an inexperienced driver in the best car and he delivers a 2nd place pole and beating the best driver on track to 3rd, how can anyone seriously think LH is where he is without Merc. Yes, his experience will no doubt make the difference at some critical moment, but that it is made all the easier when you have the best car underneath and a top team running the numbers.
Russell isn't an inexperienced racer.
When you say an inexperienced driver who do you mean? Surely not the guy who has driven over 6500km in an F1 Merc.
Lewis Hamilton almost won a world championship in his first rookie season against teammate alonso. Remember that when you say George is not experienced enough
How did Hamilton win a championship in a McClaren then?
Some people are totally clueless. Of course you need a good car to win and of course if you put any top driver in the best car they'll do well. But at the top level of any sport, it's the finest of margins that dictate who is the best. And LH has proven he is the best.
You deluded haters are like Burnely football fans claiming they're better than Liverpool. Get a grip!
You deluded haters are like Burnely football fans claiming they're better than Liverpool. Get a grip!
He's not inexperienced, He was consistently better than the likes of Lando and LeClerc in lower formulas, and has outclassed all of his team mates in the F1 Williams. Mercedes know his ability and that is why he is in their driver program and was chosen over Vandorne to replace Lewis. Do keep up
Do you think Merc would be where they are without Lewis?
You do realise that he is a key part of developing the car? The driver (particularly the lead driver) works with the design team, strategists and mechanics. Only the driver can give feedback. Only the driver can help find tenths of seconds, and in return the designers look at the driver and make the car fit the way they drive.
You do realise that he is a key part of developing the car? The driver (particularly the lead driver) works with the design team, strategists and mechanics. Only the driver can give feedback. Only the driver can help find tenths of seconds, and in return the designers look at the driver and make the car fit the way they drive.
Qualifying is one step for George but how will he compare to Bottas over the race length ?
If they manage a race distance!
To close teammates is always a dangerous thing.
Bottas shall want to put manners on this pretender, and Russell will want to win in what may be his only opportunity
To close teammates is always a dangerous thing.
Bottas shall want to put manners on this pretender, and Russell will want to win in what may be his only opportunity
Frankly, given Russell doesn't even fit in the car, it's already been a total embarrassment for Bottas. Smallest gap between teammates.
If he can stay with Bottas tomorrow, he's more than proven he should be in Bottas' seat. If he beats Bottas, I suspect Mercedes may be tempted to shift Bottas on at the end of the season, contract or not.
If he can stay with Bottas tomorrow, he's more than proven he should be in Bottas' seat. If he beats Bottas, I suspect Mercedes may be tempted to shift Bottas on at the end of the season, contract or not.
This weekend has shown what most people think - Hamilton in a great car is unstoppable. But a true great in a very bad car will always find a way to get close to pole position.
In my opinion, Senna and Clark could drive a mini and be close to pole - Hamilton however needs at least a good car to win.
Hamilton is good, but not in the league of a Clarke or Senna.
In my opinion, Senna and Clark could drive a mini and be close to pole - Hamilton however needs at least a good car to win.
Hamilton is good, but not in the league of a Clarke or Senna.
Senna useless????? I think you are the one who never saw Senna race!!!
One on one, Senna would beat everyone. I saw Senna race for years and was gutted when he died. To say his greatest accolade is he is the most dangerous F1 driver is just ridiculous - you really don't have a clue. I stand by my statement - Senna would easily beat Hamilton if they had the same car.
One on one, Senna would beat everyone. I saw Senna race for years and was gutted when he died. To say his greatest accolade is he is the most dangerous F1 driver is just ridiculous - you really don't have a clue. I stand by my statement - Senna would easily beat Hamilton if they had the same car.
Just goes to show that it's not the driver, it's the car.
Perhaps Hamilton will take note and start showing some humility for a change.
Perhaps Hamilton will take note and start showing some humility for a change.
No one is surprised! That car is so far ahead of the competition. Makes a mockery of Hamilton the ‘goat’!
You are looking at this upside down. This is not Hamilton looking bad this is George proving what most of the informed people already know. George is Lewis's heir
OMG, I’m sorry but you put an inexperienced driver in the best car and he delivers a 2nd place pole and beating the best driver on track to 3rd, how can anyone seriously think LH is where he is without Merc. Yes, his experience will no doubt make the difference at some critical moment, but that it is made all the easier when you have the best car underneath and a top team running the numbers.
Everyone knows Bottas is rubbish. So Lewis out-qualifying him is not a great achievement. Russell, was thousandths from getting pole, in a car he’s never driven, which is too small for him. Russell is a good driver but he is unproven. What he’s done this weekend puts Lewis’s achievements into perspective. It’s been so easy for Lewis. He was only pushed by ROS, not a great driver, and lost to him.
Of course the big unknown is how far ahead would Hamilton have been?
You have the fastest car you win, not really that impressive that is why Lewis wins all the while.
Wow, what could Russell do in a Mercedes that was designed and fitted for him.
Avondale47
What a nasty load of comments. Why do you think Mercedes pay a fortune to Lewis Hamilton, for fun? or do they know more about drivers capabilities then the morons commenting on this HYS? Removed
What a nasty load of comments. Why do you think Mercedes pay a fortune to Lewis Hamilton, for fun? or do they know more about drivers capabilities then the morons commenting on this HYS? Removed
They see a tax dodger, you see the colour of his skin... but they're the closet racists.
They see justifiable questions regarding his character, you see someone who cannot be criticised because of the colour of his skin... but they're the closet racists.
They see justifiable questions regarding his character, you see someone who cannot be criticised because of the colour of his skin... but they're the closet racists.
Your comment is the only racist remark on here
You actually refer to skin colour you hypocrite
You actually refer to skin colour you hypocrite
This HYS is not about Hamilton, it's about Russell. Give it a rest.
Lord Lucan, stick to your guns, truth telling .
I love it the way 'racism' gets chucked around so easily, so you are telling us Hamilton isn't privileged, because he's black and so he is oppressed, held down, not able to fulfill his potential? A myth, much like the BLM narrative?
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Why is it that the woke always scream ‘raaacist?’ What on earth has steering a computer got to do with race?
Completely agree 100 %
How many more times are you going to try and make this thread about race?? You're the only one talking it! Chip on shoulder?
No, it was just that Lewis's social agenda would rile the racists. Why do you think the BBC are doing a special award for Marcus Rashford and what he's done for child poverty rather than leave it to the kind of "fan" who wants to denigrate Lewis or any other ethnic minority sportsperson doing well?
Look what happens whenever an HYS is open on Serena - it's open season for the nastiest comments.
Look what happens whenever an HYS is open on Serena - it's open season for the nastiest comments.
Nope. It’s a team sport - it’s about both with the proviso that you need to be in a great car to have a chance. Also remember 2009 Hamilton was in an average car but somehow managed some wins and ended up actually scoring more points than anyone else (many in better cars) in the second half of the season
Hamilton is in the best car, yes, and in great part because he was instrumental in developing it. That's how it works. It wasn't the best car when he arrived.
Yes it was -he developed nothing other than his over sized ego. Can’t wait for him to retire.
Bizarre revisionism!
Hamilton moved to Mercedes at the point the hybrid era started. A completely different car to the one Schumacher had before it. It was clear from Day 1 of the hybrid era that Mercedes had the fastest engine by an absolute mile. Him and Rosberg were getting 1-2's from the outset.
Sure, he's helped develop it since, but to say he made the Mercedes fast is a complete lie.
Hamilton moved to Mercedes at the point the hybrid era started. A completely different car to the one Schumacher had before it. It was clear from Day 1 of the hybrid era that Mercedes had the fastest engine by an absolute mile. Him and Rosberg were getting 1-2's from the outset.
Sure, he's helped develop it since, but to say he made the Mercedes fast is a complete lie.
Are you sure you watch F1?
Mercedes WAS along way down the development route BEFORE Hamilton arrived and took over from Schumacher. The development of the best car is down to the best scientific engineers analysis and the drivers feedback (which is only a tiny cog)
This weekend has shown what most people think - Hamilton in a great car is unstoppable. But a true great in a very bad car will always find a way to get close to pole position.
In my opinion, Senna and Clark could drive a mini and be close to pole - Hamilton however needs at least a good car to win.
Hamilton is good, but not in the league of a Clarke or Senna.
In my opinion, Senna and Clark could drive a mini and be close to pole - Hamilton however needs at least a good car to win.
Hamilton is good, but not in the league of a Clarke or Senna.
Youre obviously wrong of course, but just to obliterate whatever weak arguement you may have, the difference between cars is now huge and as much as you might like to think otherwise, if you put any driver in history in the current grid in any car that isnt the mercedes, hamilton still wins.
if you think senna is getting near pole in a current williams or haas - or even a renault etc, youre mad.
if you think senna is getting near pole in a current williams or haas - or even a renault etc, youre mad.
Armchair experts are funny - takes F1 drivers to acknowledge each other. Verstappen's maturity reflecting on Hamilton and Sainz acknowledging Russell's speed.
Armchair experts with no hope of ever driging anything beyond 75mph on the motorway however know better?
Armchair experts with no hope of ever driging anything beyond 75mph on the motorway however know better?
Team managers are not armchair experts. They are experts.
Verstappen IS an F1 driver though, in case you didn't realise.
Verstappen IS an F1 driver though, in case you didn't realise.
Not a team manager, but RedBulls helmet marko is an ex F1 driver. And he is a big part of the driver selection for 2 teams.
Its quite clear now that the BBC is not trying to stop the trolling, they're facilitating it.
All these articles with comments suddenly because George is in the Merc but they virtually shut down comments as Lewis approached and made history getting his 7th title.
All these articles with comments suddenly because George is in the Merc but they virtually shut down comments as Lewis approached and made history getting his 7th title.
Funny how you dont have an issue with hundreds of spam posts repeating debunked nonsense about Lewis and tax. You can call my posts drivel but at least I can spell censor.
No, it was just that Lewis's social agenda would rile the racists. Why do you think the BBC are doing a special award for Marcus Rashford and what he's done for child poverty rather than leave it to the kind of "fan" who wants to denigrate Lewis or any other ethnic minority sportsperson doing well?
Look what happens whenever an HYS is open on Serena - it's open season for the nastiest comments.
Look what happens whenever an HYS is open on Serena - it's open season for the nastiest comments.
Here we ago again BBC another irrelevant comment from Leslie that has nothing to do with the article
Oh no. Not someone using their platform to push for positive change?! How dare they!
What an awful person you must be, just disgusting!
But, Hamilton is a better racing driver than Bottas..
he probably is the best ever tho. pick any metric and hamilton will probably in the top few
Who has more world titles than Hamilton?
Who has more poles than Hamilton?
Who has more wins than Hamilton?
I’m genuinely interested in your answer.
Who has more poles than Hamilton?
Who has more wins than Hamilton?
I’m genuinely interested in your answer.
OMG, I’m sorry but you put an inexperienced driver in the best car and he delivers a 2nd place pole and beating the best driver on track to 3rd, how can anyone seriously think LH is where he is without Merc. Yes, his experience will no doubt make the difference at some critical moment, but that it is made all the easier when you have the best car underneath and a top team running the numbers.
You clearly never saw Senna race, then. Useless if not in the best car, useless if not on pole, and crap at turning poles into wins. Had to deliberately smash others off the track to win two of his three titles. History's most dangerous F1 driver is his only true accolade.
Senna useless????? I think you are the one who never saw Senna race!!!
One on one, Senna would beat everyone. I saw Senna race for years and was gutted when he died. To say his greatest accolade is he is the most dangerous F1 driver is just ridiculous - you really don't have a clue. I stand by my statement - Senna would easily beat Hamilton if they had the same car.
One on one, Senna would beat everyone. I saw Senna race for years and was gutted when he died. To say his greatest accolade is he is the most dangerous F1 driver is just ridiculous - you really don't have a clue. I stand by my statement - Senna would easily beat Hamilton if they had the same car.
If Russell wins it will be an awkward winter / 2021 for Merc. Constant questions about why Bottas is still there, why is Russell wasting a year at Williams etc.
Merc will want to avoid all that so dont be surprised if Russell's car appears to be nerfed in the race. They'd be delighted for a boring 1-2 with Russell not putting any pressure on.
Merc will want to avoid all that so dont be surprised if Russell's car appears to be nerfed in the race. They'd be delighted for a boring 1-2 with Russell not putting any pressure on.
bottas is in the merc because he's a good, reliable second driver that wont challenge the lead driver much but who is generally there to pick up points as needed and act as a rear gunner.
people will understand why mercedes want it this way next season if perez goes to red bull as that will suddenly turn into a train wreck
people will understand why mercedes want it this way next season if perez goes to red bull as that will suddenly turn into a train wreck
Vettel won 4 championships in the fastest car. Actually kind of proves his point. As it's clear Vettel was not the best driver on the grid during those periods.
I am convinced Max would beat Hamilton in same car. And i think LeClerc most likely can as well. Lets be honest, Rosberg got the best of Hamilton one season and he was nothing special.
I am convinced Max would beat Hamilton in same car. And i think LeClerc most likely can as well. Lets be honest, Rosberg got the best of Hamilton one season and he was nothing special.
What needs to be remembered here is that George Russell is in a car that doesn't 'fit' him. He is driving a car that is too small for him in terms of size. To do what he has done is fantastic. What all the Hamilton fans need get their head around is that if George was properly fitted into the car, and had a couple of weeks to learn the car he would drive as well as Lewis, and better than VB
"and had a couple of weeks to learn the car he would drive as well as Lewis, and better than VB"
You know better than the Mercedes team? There's a reason why Hamilton's the most sought after driver - he's the best on the grid and the best of all time.
You know better than the Mercedes team? There's a reason why Hamilton's the most sought after driver - he's the best on the grid and the best of all time.
Why exactly do they need to understand your hypothetical comment? You know it nonsense, they know it’s nonsense, and they know no one yet on the grid has shown they can compete with Lewis week in week out - until then it’s all in your head because you want nothing more than to put down the champ who just keeps getting better and better when you wish he would just retire; grow up kid
But that does not make him the best on the track, or justify some saying he is the best of all time, just better than his understudy - what a surprise. Stick him with someone who is considered better and we have a different story, but who would has the gumption to do that.