Brexit: UK-EU trade talks to resume over 'critical issues'
05/12/2020 | news | politics | 2,291
Negotiators will talk on Sunday, but "significant differences" between the two sides in post-Brexit trade talks remain.
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05/12/2020 22:30:52 26 34
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Brexit will finish off the economy and the tories in the short term.
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05/12/2020 22:39:31 15 8
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Brexit isn’t a Tory policy, it was the public’s decision. The EU needs the uk market. They will not cripple their export market, they will do a deal. Tariffs will not happen, can you imagine tariffs on all German car imports to the uk in retaliation. Not gonna happen.
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05/12/2020 22:31:41 54 16
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Hilarious BBC imagery... so now Boris is Darth Vader
He does have children who probably don't know that he's their father.?? Removed
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BOF
05/12/2020 22:53:30 9 2
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Now don't be beastly about Darth Vadar. I am sure there was a nice guy struggling to get out.
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xlr
05/12/2020 23:00:05 11 3
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Well, he did alter the deal.

Pray he does not alter it further. In a specific and limited way.
06/12/2020 02:08:28 1 2
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He does wear a mask and he might be your father.
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JL
05/12/2020 22:32:39 17 17
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What is “level playing field”?

Price fixing.

Protectionism.

Slavery.
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BOF
05/12/2020 22:52:39 1 3
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What absolute nonsense!
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05/12/2020 22:55:49 1 2
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No, it is the rules 500 million people, your neighbours, expect you to follow if you want to make business with them. Else, go sell your products to Japan or New Zealand. Good luck.
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05/12/2020 22:32:52 41 37
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Please let's just go.......
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05/12/2020 23:15:55 6 9
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Ah yes the....just go approach. Clowns
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05/12/2020 23:52:41 0 2
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Foolish idea.
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05/12/2020 22:33:12 9 17
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Time to put your big boy pants on Johnson and get this deal done - fishing, sovereignty this is not 1930 Boris but the economy will look that way if you screw this up!
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05/12/2020 22:38:03 8 8
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But he is just a failed journalist - why will he change?
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BOF
05/12/2020 22:52:08 0 1
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Why should he care. After all he said "f*** business"

Interesting that I cannot actually quote our Prime Minister on this column.
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05/12/2020 22:33:33 18 27
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Come on Boris, if anyone can do it you can. Do not let johnny foreigner bully us. Send em packing back home old chap.

Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

A pint of ale to our great leader, working hard in to the night to keep this country safe. Doing what we elected him to do by a rather large mandate too. Good chap.
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05/12/2020 22:35:06 11 13
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Gets popcorn and awaits leftist diatribe
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05/12/2020 22:52:22 0 1
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Rule Britannia is anachronistic, we used to be enslaved e.g. the Barbary Coast and having to pay Danegeld.

Sadly, this enslavement could return. Our coast taken by foreign aggressors and our laws made by others.
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05/12/2020 22:33:58 23 29
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Ooh, a deal might be possible. But if no deal is reached, it's those naughty EU bods who are to blame. Hmm...seems like this was the plan all along. Can't trust Tories, can't trust Johnson, good luck UK...
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05/12/2020 22:34:19 13 21
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Dear EU, you're required to give the UK an FTA. You've been offered one. Take it or risk the entire Withdrawal Agreement going in the bin...
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05/12/2020 22:37:35 10 8
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Nope, none of that is true.
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05/12/2020 22:51:41 1 2
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You are so absolutely wrong, where do you get your data? Fox News?
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05/12/2020 22:34:36 9 19
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Clearly these talks should be put on hold, even if it means WTO rules in January.
How can the EU be expected to negotiate whilst the French President is having to deal with violent protests, against him and his recent laws, at home.
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05/12/2020 22:50:31 2 2
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UK is not negotiating with France, but with 27 countries, 24 of them have no protests.
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05/12/2020 22:34:58 38 30
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What's the point of HYS at all? Such rubbish.
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05/12/2020 22:36:21 51 32
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Well it gave fools like you a voice
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05/12/2020 23:18:33 0 3
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Why are you posting then?
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05/12/2020 22:33:33 18 27
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Come on Boris, if anyone can do it you can. Do not let johnny foreigner bully us. Send em packing back home old chap.

Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

A pint of ale to our great leader, working hard in to the night to keep this country safe. Doing what we elected him to do by a rather large mandate too. Good chap.
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05/12/2020 22:35:06 11 13
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Gets popcorn and awaits leftist diatribe
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05/12/2020 22:38:26 8 3
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Screw the left!! We are leaving as is the people's vote! They can not stop it!! Let them have their 5 minutes on HYS. The country voted. Boris gets the results done regardless of terms we voted to leave.
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05/12/2020 22:35:08 6 9
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Deal is already done. This is showboating for the benefit of the UK and EU
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BOF
05/12/2020 22:48:57 0 1
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Hope you are right!
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05/12/2020 22:35:29 7 7
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I only commented that Boris is being portrayed as Darth Vader by the BBC and wow the website went down
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05/12/2020 22:34:58 38 30
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What's the point of HYS at all? Such rubbish.
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05/12/2020 22:36:21 51 32
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Well it gave fools like you a voice
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05/12/2020 22:38:35 9 7
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A bit harsh, why am I a fool?
And to idiots like you... Removed
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05/12/2020 22:36:50 25 24
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Get this right Boris or we will be back to 2016, people will not fall for half leave deals
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mf
05/12/2020 22:59:27 5 6
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*Johnson
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05/12/2020 23:16:52 1 1
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Have another vote.
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05/12/2020 23:22:04 1 1
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For certain MPs and members of his party, the European Research Group and their billionaire friends, 'get this right' means crash out with the no-deal that they always wanted.
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05/12/2020 22:37:05 17 28
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Walking political zombie and routinely sacked clapped out has been British Prime Minister versus consumate successful European business woman and leader of a modern forward thinking Europe.
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05/12/2020 22:39:33 13 15
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Infantile comment remoaner
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05/12/2020 22:39:45 2 2
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Rubbish
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05/12/2020 22:54:24 1 2
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this modern forward thinking europe could not care less for the uk...they only want our money and fish
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05/12/2020 22:37:28 32 15
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An oven ready Turkey!!!!
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BOF
05/12/2020 23:03:19 14 2
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Unfortunately just a turkey
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I see the French are rioting again, even their citizens think Macron is a coqwomble Removed
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05/12/2020 23:01:07 0 1
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They certainly do think so which is perhaps why he wants the police to have more powers and protection. His popularity has fallen to 29%, so he is far less popular in France than Trump was in the USA. This means he cannot give in on the sovereignty issue of the UK's territorial waters or else they will perhaps really think he is a mummy's boy.
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05/12/2020 22:34:19 13 21
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Dear EU, you're required to give the UK an FTA. You've been offered one. Take it or risk the entire Withdrawal Agreement going in the bin...
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05/12/2020 22:37:35 10 8
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Nope, none of that is true.
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05/12/2020 22:36:05 10 12
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BBC doesn’t understand complex talks will always go to the wire.

Sham3 the over 75s have been mad3 to pay for this schoolboy journalism
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05/12/2020 22:40:35 11 9
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Shame they're not paying for the Brexit fiasco.
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05/12/2020 22:42:59 2 5
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Given that it was mostly over 75 year old Daily Racist reading purple faced morons that voted for this mess, I think it entirely appropriate.
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05/12/2020 22:33:12 9 17
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Time to put your big boy pants on Johnson and get this deal done - fishing, sovereignty this is not 1930 Boris but the economy will look that way if you screw this up!
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05/12/2020 22:38:03 8 8
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But he is just a failed journalist - why will he change?
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05/12/2020 22:38:07 18 27
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Fingers crossed for No Deal
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05/12/2020 22:39:31 17 10
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Yeh WTO rules are just what we want when dealing with Europe

Uneducated remark
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05/12/2020 22:47:04 1 4
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Apparently, you have no idea of what suffering that means. You should not be allowed to vote. Sorry, but if you don't understand the consequences of your vote, you should not be allowed to put other people in risk.
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05/12/2020 22:35:06 11 13
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Gets popcorn and awaits leftist diatribe
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05/12/2020 22:38:26 8 3
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Screw the left!! We are leaving as is the people's vote! They can not stop it!! Let them have their 5 minutes on HYS. The country voted. Boris gets the results done regardless of terms we voted to leave.
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05/12/2020 22:36:21 51 32
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Well it gave fools like you a voice
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05/12/2020 22:38:35 9 7
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A bit harsh, why am I a fool?
You think calling you a fool is harsh?? Thats the lightest I could of gone given the BBC HYS mod bots quick response to anything stronger Ahahaha snowflake. Removed
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05/12/2020 22:39:07 92 33
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“ a further effort should be undertaken by our negotiating teams to assess whether they can be resolved.“

What does this mean? Just deciding whether there is any chance of a deal? Or planning to drag it out for more years?

Any delay beyond 31st Dec would be unacceptable to all sides.
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05/12/2020 23:05:53 105 69
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Actually, with COVID wrecking havoc to the economy, a delay would've been a very wise move. And it was entirely in Boris Johnson's hands to choose a deferment back in the early summer. Did he make make that sensible move, that would've helped hundreds of thousands of hardworking families? Nope, he listened to disaster capitalists and extremist nutters, who have access to the corridors of power.
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05/12/2020 23:17:58 12 9
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An indefinite delay is cool by me, the uncertainty may bite a bit but nowhere near the chaos caused by whatever the hell no deal is going to do.

The government guidance is basically "Be prepared" without any specifics OR software change specifications.
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05/12/2020 23:30:10 8 6
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It would be acceptable to many people especially those who will lose their jobs/businesses.
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05/12/2020 22:31:41 54 16
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Hilarious BBC imagery... so now Boris is Darth Vader
He does have children who probably don't know that he's their father.?? Removed
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05/12/2020 22:39:22 92 44
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So much for walking away - there will be a deal because Trump is out and the chess board pieces have moved. Bottom line is it will be a deal, a cr%p one for us but a deal, and it will be paraded as the best deal ever and the usual suspects will believe it.

Such a waste of time and effort to be worse off!
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05/12/2020 22:42:54 86 75
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The best deal was being in the EU. You voted out. What are you complaining about?
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05/12/2020 22:30:52 26 34
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Brexit will finish off the economy and the tories in the short term.
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05/12/2020 22:39:31 15 8
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Brexit isn’t a Tory policy, it was the public’s decision. The EU needs the uk market. They will not cripple their export market, they will do a deal. Tariffs will not happen, can you imagine tariffs on all German car imports to the uk in retaliation. Not gonna happen.
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05/12/2020 22:44:33 4 2
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Yup over 2 million vehicles from EU countries in 2018.
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05/12/2020 23:14:37 0 1
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Brexit was Cameron and Osborne's folly
06/12/2020 09:11:20 0 0
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Brexit became the ONLY Tory policy the moment those with dissenting voices were purged from the party.
What's left hasn't just been shorn of dissenting voices, it's also had most of the progressive, moderate, moral and competent voices removed.
It's no longer the Conservative and Unionist party of the UK, more like the Conservative and Brexit party of little England.
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05/12/2020 22:38:07 18 27
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Fingers crossed for No Deal
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05/12/2020 22:39:31 17 10
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Yeh WTO rules are just what we want when dealing with Europe

Uneducated remark
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05/12/2020 22:44:51 4 2
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A remainer who cannot accept they lost.
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05/12/2020 22:37:05 17 28
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Walking political zombie and routinely sacked clapped out has been British Prime Minister versus consumate successful European business woman and leader of a modern forward thinking Europe.
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05/12/2020 22:39:33 13 15
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Infantile comment remoaner
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05/12/2020 22:37:05 17 28
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Walking political zombie and routinely sacked clapped out has been British Prime Minister versus consumate successful European business woman and leader of a modern forward thinking Europe.
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05/12/2020 22:39:45 2 2
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Rubbish
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05/12/2020 22:40:13 19 8
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So much for their being a break from anything political this Christmas the way things are going.
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05/12/2020 22:49:19 23 18
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It’s there, not their.
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05/12/2020 22:51:38 4 1
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There's talk of an EU emergency summit on the 28th December, which definitely won't be a Christmas break if it happens..
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05/12/2020 22:36:05 10 12
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BBC doesn’t understand complex talks will always go to the wire.

Sham3 the over 75s have been mad3 to pay for this schoolboy journalism
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05/12/2020 22:40:35 11 9
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Shame they're not paying for the Brexit fiasco.
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05/12/2020 22:40:59 7 9
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Who will blink first,at least we will only have 1 economy to prob up if no deal unlike Germany and France
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Ian
05/12/2020 22:41:23 148 60
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So because they can’t get 84% of the UKs fish they’d prefer 0%. Bizarre negotiating strategy.
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05/12/2020 22:48:17 123 32
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The french are using fish as a smoke screen. I think they prefer a no deal brexit.
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05/12/2020 23:14:59 13 15
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Zero on fish....then the UK stuffed with other deals. We have more to lose.
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m
05/12/2020 23:39:11 16 12
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And then you have 100%. Where do you want to sell all that fish? You export already the greatest part of what you catch to the EU. Catching fish is one thing, selling and eating it is another... And the fishing industry is of no economic importance for your economy as wel as for the EU-fishing countries. Much a do about nothing.
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05/12/2020 23:59:53 9 0
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Fishing rights are a red herring.
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06/12/2020 00:18:07 5 4
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In fairness it's rather more complex than a reductive punchline in a comment section.
06/12/2020 00:38:32 1 1
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No. They prefer no deal. Take what they want.
06/12/2020 01:08:36 1 2
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The French are about to wrestle the official language of the EU from the Germans. They see us leaving as their chance to be top dogs.

We surrendered our seat at the table. The vacuum this leaves is the prize. Not a deal. Certainly not an issue joe public can understand like fishing.

We are no longer part of the bigger game.

We should lament that.
06/12/2020 01:35:14 3 3
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While the UK wants all the benefits of europe without contributing?

Seems like an even worse negotiating strategy.
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Tom
05/12/2020 22:41:26 50 37
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I honestly voted to leave in the referendum and I did so weighing up all the options and think I was making a good democratic choice.

But I swear down, I honestly never thought that this was the outcome. Let's just make a deal and ffs get on with it.
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05/12/2020 22:47:02 79 56
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Did you weigh it up on the back of a cigarette packet ?

No one unless motivated polictally thinks it a good idea, we will be all worse off, fact
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05/12/2020 22:47:34 6 8
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The problem is that people weighed up options. But they were not the options that now matter.
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05/12/2020 23:01:26 7 2
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So what you are saying is you didn't weigh up all of the options? Half the nation voted to remain. This is the net result, and proof that democracy isn't perfect.
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05/12/2020 23:10:18 7 2
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Maybe you could summarise it as: you were naive.
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05/12/2020 23:14:10 4 1
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Boris....clown in charge
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05/12/2020 23:36:07 2 11
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You're very honest. The PM's been trying to make a deal for months, but self-interested MPs, SNP zealouts, ex PM's and of course Macron, Verhofstadt et al, have been trying to do the opposite.
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05/12/2020 23:36:21 2 3
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We were always going to lose out, the EU has far more clout than Britain on its own and far more people to spread the mess around.
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06/12/2020 00:26:21 0 0
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Did you weigh it up for your own selfishness? Or was for the futures of the UK's children?
06/12/2020 06:26:23 0 0
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I thought there’d be less football on TV once we’d voted ourselves out of Europe!
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05/12/2020 22:38:35 9 7
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A bit harsh, why am I a fool?
You think calling you a fool is harsh?? Thats the lightest I could of gone given the BBC HYS mod bots quick response to anything stronger Ahahaha snowflake. Removed
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05/12/2020 22:44:20 5 3
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You having a tough night seems legit?
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05/12/2020 22:41:57 23 11
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is it double bluff, to make bojo look like a winner
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05/12/2020 22:39:22 92 44
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So much for walking away - there will be a deal because Trump is out and the chess board pieces have moved. Bottom line is it will be a deal, a cr%p one for us but a deal, and it will be paraded as the best deal ever and the usual suspects will believe it.

Such a waste of time and effort to be worse off!
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05/12/2020 22:42:54 86 75
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The best deal was being in the EU. You voted out. What are you complaining about?
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05/12/2020 22:45:43 10 4
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No i most certainly didn't
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05/12/2020 22:49:50 9 17
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The referendum vote said differently, and this has been endorced by the last election.
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06/12/2020 00:08:07 3 2
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So then all the UK would have needed to do would have been to decide whether or not to remain outside the monetary union as the EU back it up with political union or merge into the United States of Europe.

Either way the infamous 'Status Quo' could not have been maintained.

What would your choice have been?
06/12/2020 02:49:59 3 1
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The UK wants to leave. Unfortunately when it comes to territorial access, having a say in UK domestic law and jurisdiction of its own courts it sounds like the EU wants the UK to stay.
06/12/2020 04:49:15 2 3
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The best deal is Brexit. Keep our fish.
06/12/2020 07:30:57 0 1
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Seems to me it is not those that voted leave, that have been complaining all these years. It is not those that voted leave seeking to delay and delay by any means.
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05/12/2020 22:36:05 10 12
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BBC doesn’t understand complex talks will always go to the wire.

Sham3 the over 75s have been mad3 to pay for this schoolboy journalism
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05/12/2020 22:42:59 2 5
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Given that it was mostly over 75 year old Daily Racist reading purple faced morons that voted for this mess, I think it entirely appropriate.
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05/12/2020 22:43:30 10 17
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No deal is better than the EU deal.

No fishing in UK waters for the EU. Watch the French cry,
EU forced to check goods from RoI or force RoI to break the GFA.

This is what the country needs. Fun and games.
Just remember civilised people understand countries have borders.
Why is a GFA agreement required?
Decide which side to live and show your passport when entering another country.
No hard!
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05/12/2020 22:49:28 2 2
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the french fisherman will blockade calais. There will be no exports or imports via that port
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BOF
05/12/2020 23:01:36 0 1
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And why exactly is it in our interests to make our neighbours and principal trading partners really angry?
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05/12/2020 22:44:08 20 20
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Politically correct photograph at the top of this article suggest's the UK PM is in darkness as the EU is in Daylight. What's the Time Zone between the UK and Europe. Do the BBC Know????
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05/12/2020 22:48:20 11 7
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Hardly, UK employs photographer who has some artistic freedoms ... EU Gosford soft frontal lighting as a courtesy to avoid harsh wrinkles and an EU flag so we know roughly who she is.
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05/12/2020 22:48:21 3 3
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If you took the time to look you would see they are both in closed rooms with different types of lighting. Doh.
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05/12/2020 22:50:49 3 7
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BBC breaching its own impartiality rules with that one, I'm afraid..... they really need to bring back Clarkson so he can punch impartial correspondants in the face :)
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05/12/2020 22:57:39 2 3
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Or they have turned the 'Big light' on...
You think calling you a fool is harsh?? Thats the lightest I could of gone given the BBC HYS mod bots quick response to anything stronger Ahahaha snowflake. Removed
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05/12/2020 22:44:20 5 3
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You having a tough night seems legit?
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05/12/2020 22:47:26 2 6
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No good thanks, you xox
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05/12/2020 22:39:31 15 8
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Brexit isn’t a Tory policy, it was the public’s decision. The EU needs the uk market. They will not cripple their export market, they will do a deal. Tariffs will not happen, can you imagine tariffs on all German car imports to the uk in retaliation. Not gonna happen.
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05/12/2020 22:44:33 4 2
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Yup over 2 million vehicles from EU countries in 2018.
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05/12/2020 22:39:31 17 10
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Yeh WTO rules are just what we want when dealing with Europe

Uneducated remark
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05/12/2020 22:44:51 4 2
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A remainer who cannot accept they lost.
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05/12/2020 22:45:12 3 10
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Critcally Bozo is a doorknob. If they can agree that the just sign on the dotted line.
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05/12/2020 22:42:54 86 75
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The best deal was being in the EU. You voted out. What are you complaining about?
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05/12/2020 22:45:43 10 4
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No i most certainly didn't
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05/12/2020 22:45:48 5 8
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Two possibilities ... both will work out.
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Tom
05/12/2020 22:41:26 50 37
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I honestly voted to leave in the referendum and I did so weighing up all the options and think I was making a good democratic choice.

But I swear down, I honestly never thought that this was the outcome. Let's just make a deal and ffs get on with it.
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05/12/2020 22:47:02 79 56
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Did you weigh it up on the back of a cigarette packet ?

No one unless motivated polictally thinks it a good idea, we will be all worse off, fact
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05/12/2020 22:58:52 7 2
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What was on the back of your cigarette packet?
The usual diatribe,in need of bog roll to wipe clean
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Vid
05/12/2020 23:20:23 0 2
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In your opinion yes..
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05/12/2020 23:48:42 0 0
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17.4 million people disagree with you.
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05/12/2020 23:52:35 0 0
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that is quite simply not a fact just your opinion, problem is too many people can't tell the difference. Even though they've been told by democratic opinion over and over again. Live with it. In case you don't understand democracy, more people have a different opinion to you and they won. Several times.
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06/12/2020 00:11:35 0 0
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Wow, someone who predicts the future....and calls it a 'fact'.
Ha, ha, ha.
06/12/2020 00:53:30 0 0
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That depends on your value system
06/12/2020 03:43:26 0 1
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You know, i hear from a lot of remainers talking to brexiteers that simply saying "fact" at the end of a sentence does not, in itself, make that sentence factual!

In fact, what you claim as fact, cant be determined as fact at all - its a prediction at best, and one I expect is tainted by your own biased opinion of the situation.

But you already knew that because remainers are so clever... right?
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05/12/2020 22:38:07 18 27
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Fingers crossed for No Deal
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05/12/2020 22:47:04 1 4
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Apparently, you have no idea of what suffering that means. You should not be allowed to vote. Sorry, but if you don't understand the consequences of your vote, you should not be allowed to put other people in risk.
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05/12/2020 23:08:38 1 1
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So I’m too stupid to vote - I’m certainly not too stupid to vote for a party that has your elitist ideology
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05/12/2020 22:44:20 5 3
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You having a tough night seems legit?
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05/12/2020 22:47:26 2 6
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No good thanks, you xox
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05/12/2020 22:49:58 3 3
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Living the dream
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Tom
05/12/2020 22:41:26 50 37
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I honestly voted to leave in the referendum and I did so weighing up all the options and think I was making a good democratic choice.

But I swear down, I honestly never thought that this was the outcome. Let's just make a deal and ffs get on with it.
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05/12/2020 22:47:34 6 8
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The problem is that people weighed up options. But they were not the options that now matter.
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Dan
05/12/2020 23:04:35 4 3
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No excuses now, please.
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Ian
05/12/2020 22:41:23 148 60
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So because they can’t get 84% of the UKs fish they’d prefer 0%. Bizarre negotiating strategy.
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05/12/2020 22:48:17 123 32
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The french are using fish as a smoke screen. I think they prefer a no deal brexit.
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JB
05/12/2020 23:13:40 22 20
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Nah, the French are being the typical French. Trying to play at being big boys of the EU, there are a few countries who have fishing high up on heir agendas but France want that little extra freebie. So much for democracy in the EU. Merkel must be cursing little Macron, lol.
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05/12/2020 23:22:14 16 3
bbc
You could be right. Macron has a domestic audience to please and as it stands it's fairly likely his main opponent at the next election will be Front National. Looking strong now might keep those who'd be half-tempted by Le Pen in the second round of voting sweet.
490
05/12/2020 23:34:11 5 14
bbc
The French aren't that stupid.
560
05/12/2020 23:40:18 8 15
bbc
I agree, they've regretted not listening to De Gaulle re why UK should be kept out. Sure enough, UK was never a full partner, never more than half-in with all the opt-outs & special treatments.

Not just the French, UK's most-pampered-nation status annoyed a lot of members—so there are many more quietly behind Macron in this, he's not hanging himself out on a limb over a few fish. Ie not a cod.
631
05/12/2020 23:47:23 18 5
bbc
Macron's up to le neck with domestic problems, like his new security bill (riots in Paris today) and his internal ethenicity and religious problems.

Shoutng 'fish' or 'poisson' in the same way Sturgeon shouts 'It's all Westminster's fault', is the best he can do at present in the misdirection and distraction front.
885
06/12/2020 00:19:13 12 4
bbc
The French, as one of their ministers stated yesterday, are firmly of the opinion that those choosing to leave the EU must be seen to suffer “ pour encourager les autres “. Ergo the UK must be punished. Their thinking is pure politics and nothing to do with mutually beneficial trade deals.
bob
06/12/2020 00:36:07 1 0
bbc
That’s ok with us
06/12/2020 03:04:35 0 1
bbc
they all 27 have a veto. Though hard core leavers pretend we gave them up in the Lisbon treaty. Where's the Norway Leave Johnson and Farage pushed in 2016? And Labour in 2017 and 2019? leaver lied
42
05/12/2020 22:44:08 20 20
bbc
Politically correct photograph at the top of this article suggest's the UK PM is in darkness as the EU is in Daylight. What's the Time Zone between the UK and Europe. Do the BBC Know????
54
05/12/2020 22:48:20 11 7
bbc
Hardly, UK employs photographer who has some artistic freedoms ... EU Gosford soft frontal lighting as a courtesy to avoid harsh wrinkles and an EU flag so we know roughly who she is.
42
05/12/2020 22:44:08 20 20
bbc
Politically correct photograph at the top of this article suggest's the UK PM is in darkness as the EU is in Daylight. What's the Time Zone between the UK and Europe. Do the BBC Know????
55
05/12/2020 22:48:21 3 3
bbc
If you took the time to look you would see they are both in closed rooms with different types of lighting. Doh.
56
05/12/2020 22:48:26 19 21
bbc
I think one thing is clear. Both the EU and Remainers are panicking more than the UK about a no deal.
135
BOF
05/12/2020 23:00:00 4 3
bbc
That is because they value the economy more highly than the Brexiteers who think that sovereignty is more important even if it carries a high economic price.
147
mf
05/12/2020 23:01:43 1 1
bbc
I think after 4 years, and having left, it's time to stop splitting the country by how they voted on a single issue on one day. Let's move on.
367
05/12/2020 23:24:07 1 1
bbc
How so?
57
BOF
05/12/2020 22:48:33 267 158
bbc
Probable consequences of no deal:

we leave on bad terms with our neighbours and principal trading partners;

because of Irish problems we have bad relations with the US, our 2nd trading partner;

there is substantial short term disruption to trade and travel;

there is long term economic damage on top of Covid;

we endanger the Union.

And the up side is?
116
xlr
05/12/2020 22:56:59 120 107
bbc
The upside, if you can call it that, is that the Leave voters will suffer the worst. If you're into schadenfreude.

I mean, if they couldn't compete with foreign labour for minimum wage jobs, a Brexit and Covid-impoverished country certainly isn't going to start throwing money at them now.
180
05/12/2020 23:05:23 21 1
bbc
We will get slimmer
182
05/12/2020 23:05:40 35 23
bbc
The up side is Scotland gets freedom after 300 years and we can blame Boris for it!
202
05/12/2020 23:08:16 30 27
bbc
Most of your points are irrelevant since it's out of our hands and we just have to be adult enough to deal with them. But you are close with, endangering the European Union; but once again that's down to the EU's behaviour and we've no control over that. You should be asking the EU for what reason they are trying for no deal, and what they see as the up side.
217
05/12/2020 23:03:10 24 29
bbc
FREEDOM!
271
05/12/2020 23:12:04 3 7
bbc
Probable.
So says BOF on bbc hys.
373
05/12/2020 23:17:15 3 2
bbc
All this is unfortunately quite possible
429
05/12/2020 23:28:51 6 4
bbc
The upside, no one has given me a sensible explanation of what the upside is either.
554
05/12/2020 23:39:36 4 6
bbc
Wish I had your crystal ball. Any chance of the lottery numbers?
572
05/12/2020 23:41:15 3 4
bbc
You lose a democratic vote.
581
05/12/2020 23:42:02 5 6
bbc
We'll be free mate, that was the point. US, so what, that's Biden playing the more Irish than thee card to his voter base, let's see what actually happens when he takes office (though at 77 that could be chancy?). Bad terms with Macron and Verhofstadt of course, the rest, nah! Covid, everyone's dealing with it, try and be more positive, it'll make you feel or warm and fluffy inside :).
643
05/12/2020 23:48:47 1 5
bbc
The ipside is that Scotland gets its independence at long last. Yehhhhh.
645
05/12/2020 23:48:48 2 5
bbc
The upsideis nil. Look at the Brexit brigade. E. G. Complete twits like reesmoog, eustice, cash, thinly veiled fascists like baker , ids, farage narcissts like johnson, gove, patel and compeltely uneducated absolite chumps like much of the north, essex and absilite farkin stinkpits like Dudley and stoke.....
662
mb
05/12/2020 23:50:34 2 3
bbc
the upside is China does not forget, India has its own problems, NZ is more aligned with the social democracies of Norther Europe....actually a lot are nor enamoured with Britains past and present.
762
sm
06/12/2020 00:03:00 7 3
bbc
Any half wit can see see Brexit is a disaster apart from that priviliged school boy from Eton absoluteley hopeless voted Brexit on the basis of immigration
833
06/12/2020 00:11:01 4 1
bbc
If the Covid-19 vaccine is produced in Belgium and need to be deep frozen will Brexit affect delivery? Been scratching my head for a benefit and the only thing I can up with is maybe they'll kick us out of the Eurovision song contest.
855
06/12/2020 00:14:37 2 2
bbc
Its very very very very very small but it will be brexiters trying to explain why all you have listed is somehow a good thing... try to dodge the spittle coming out of their mouths..
886
06/12/2020 00:19:13 2 5
bbc
The upside is that we will begin a new journey together. You are probably right in what you say - the journey be fraught with hardship and sacrifice but through that I honestly think we will discover a new identity as a completely independent nation - an identity that will belong to all of us, no matter where you came from prior to Brexit. It will be something we can all own.
888
Al
06/12/2020 00:19:34 3 2
bbc
Spoken like a true remainer
980
06/12/2020 00:32:19 3 5
bbc
Well just a little matter of controlling your borders and regaining sovereignty - controlling labour supply - the uk voted for Brexit and has a perfect right to undertake Brexit and can’t base its whole policy on Ireland and others national interest - there could well be a significant upside for Brexit -
58
05/12/2020 22:48:48 6 11
bbc
Bojo about to cave in
Useless at everything he does
12
05/12/2020 22:35:08 6 9
bbc
Deal is already done. This is showboating for the benefit of the UK and EU
59
BOF
05/12/2020 22:48:57 0 1
bbc
Hope you are right!
60
05/12/2020 22:49:08 21 13
bbc
So long and thanks for all the fish
75
05/12/2020 22:51:38 14 6
bbc
and come Jan 1st, Don't Panic
80
05/12/2020 22:52:01 2 3
bbc
Trouble is nobody eats it!
32
05/12/2020 22:40:13 19 8
bbc
So much for their being a break from anything political this Christmas the way things are going.
61
05/12/2020 22:49:19 23 18
bbc
It’s there, not their.
103
05/12/2020 22:55:33 6 1
bbc
Apologies yes I meant there, unfortunate mishap.
62
05/12/2020 22:49:21 16 15
bbc
The EU have done this last minute crisis thing a dozen times now. There are only a handful of people left in the country who are thick enough to still fall for it, and they all work at the BBC.
41
05/12/2020 22:43:30 10 17
bbc
No deal is better than the EU deal.

No fishing in UK waters for the EU. Watch the French cry,
EU forced to check goods from RoI or force RoI to break the GFA.

This is what the country needs. Fun and games.
Just remember civilised people understand countries have borders.
Why is a GFA agreement required?
Decide which side to live and show your passport when entering another country.
No hard!
63
05/12/2020 22:49:28 2 2
bbc
the french fisherman will blockade calais. There will be no exports or imports via that port
481
05/12/2020 23:33:04 0 1
bbc
Hook of Holland, Dieppe all lookin fine. If Calais goes into liquidation because of its greedy fishermen, so be it.
64
05/12/2020 22:49:44 39 8
bbc
They can talk until 23.59 hours CET. December 31ste but it will be no deal since they do not have the same objective.
672
05/12/2020 23:52:00 50 26
bbc
The objective of the EU is to look after the interests of EU citizens, we can only guess what Bozo's objective is, but it is not us.
39
05/12/2020 22:42:54 86 75
bbc
The best deal was being in the EU. You voted out. What are you complaining about?
65
05/12/2020 22:49:50 9 17
bbc
The referendum vote said differently, and this has been endorced by the last election.
06/12/2020 00:49:04 6 3
bbc
Just because people voted for Brexit doesn't mean it's a good thing, especially when they were undeniably lied to on a scale never before seen in UK politics. Literally every significant "benefit" of Brexit has been proven to be false. Meanwhile the list of negatives is as long as my arm.

Oh and for your information, more people voted for anti Brexit & 2nd ref parties at the last election.
66
05/12/2020 22:49:55 13 16
bbc
What's the point?

Do they think that another 24 hours is going to make any difference after 4.5 years?

The French will veto any deal anyway, so just walk away; no deal / WTO
114
05/12/2020 22:56:42 3 1
bbc
If the French do, I wonder if they'll be treated as well as Hungary and Poland.
51
05/12/2020 22:47:26 2 6
bbc
No good thanks, you xox
67
05/12/2020 22:49:58 3 3
bbc
Living the dream
72
05/12/2020 22:50:51 2 2
bbc
Good stuff, keep living it :)
68
05/12/2020 22:50:02 11 13
bbc
Lies and smears from the most vocal brexiteers for a couple of generations.

Nowt's changed, including the majority of people getting shafted, just so that 1% can dodge more taxes and hide their ill-gotten gains.
Removed
9
05/12/2020 22:34:36 9 19
bbc
Clearly these talks should be put on hold, even if it means WTO rules in January.
How can the EU be expected to negotiate whilst the French President is having to deal with violent protests, against him and his recent laws, at home.
69
05/12/2020 22:50:31 2 2
bbc
UK is not negotiating with France, but with 27 countries, 24 of them have no protests.
70
05/12/2020 22:50:47 10 10
bbc
It’s quiet dull. Not sure which I will be more excited about - deal or no deal.
I think no deal.
Yes definitely, decided .
251
05/12/2020 23:13:54 2 2
bbc
Maybe they should invite Noel Edmonds to the team :-)
42
05/12/2020 22:44:08 20 20
bbc
Politically correct photograph at the top of this article suggest's the UK PM is in darkness as the EU is in Daylight. What's the Time Zone between the UK and Europe. Do the BBC Know????
71
05/12/2020 22:50:49 3 7
bbc
BBC breaching its own impartiality rules with that one, I'm afraid..... they really need to bring back Clarkson so he can punch impartial correspondants in the face :)
67
05/12/2020 22:49:58 3 3
bbc
Living the dream
72
05/12/2020 22:50:51 2 2
bbc
Good stuff, keep living it :)
122
05/12/2020 22:58:01 2 3
bbc
Ooooooo, big trouble in little china is on the box, so happy tv.
73
05/12/2020 22:51:12 8 10
bbc
We voted for a full Brexit, Mat did nothing and Boris has lost it, The seas are ours and they trade with us on our terms and all of our armed forces return home apart from Cyprus and Gibraltar. Any Gallic and German fury will hit their economies so hard as we export to them half of what we import; how about a 50%tarrif on German cars and French wine? We want global freedom now.
125
05/12/2020 22:58:42 0 1
bbc
That is all nonsense. Britain is a tiny country, the shortfall in income to the EU could be easily absorbed.

Can you find an adult to translate for you please?
32
05/12/2020 22:40:13 19 8
bbc
So much for their being a break from anything political this Christmas the way things are going.
74
05/12/2020 22:51:38 4 1
bbc
There's talk of an EU emergency summit on the 28th December, which definitely won't be a Christmas break if it happens..
60
05/12/2020 22:49:08 21 13
bbc
So long and thanks for all the fish
75
05/12/2020 22:51:38 14 6
bbc
and come Jan 1st, Don't Panic
451
05/12/2020 23:30:31 0 1
bbc
I won't, thanks!
8
05/12/2020 22:34:19 13 21
bbc
Dear EU, you're required to give the UK an FTA. You've been offered one. Take it or risk the entire Withdrawal Agreement going in the bin...
76
05/12/2020 22:51:41 1 2
bbc
You are so absolutely wrong, where do you get your data? Fox News?
77
05/12/2020 22:51:42 5 10
bbc
For a man that said all along that England would do great out of a no deal, then why is he trying so hard to get a deal! No one believed him then and no one believes him now...Maybe with D.J Trump gone panic/realisation is starting to set in. Sleepless nights Boris? all of a sudden Teresa May's deal seems like a real good idea now?
97
05/12/2020 22:55:15 5 2
bbc
Maybe, because unlike yourself, he's trying to be reasonable and give it all he can.
78
Joe
05/12/2020 22:51:43 12 11
bbc
No deal is better option EU not going to agree for free trade agreements. EU self more goods than UK sell goods to EU. Its will cost European countries on exports tariffs in billions than UK. UK government can't afford to compromise on redline.
179
mf
05/12/2020 23:05:21 2 4
bbc
By your logic, let's all go for a meal, shall we? You bring along 3 of your mates. To make it fair, you pay £20, and us other 4 pay £40. We are paying more, so it's worse for us.
Of course, the £40 is split between 4, and your £20 is coming from you alone. Great.
549
05/12/2020 23:39:02 1 0
bbc
Under no-deal, UK will charge tariffs on all EU imports. That's on top of the cost of administering all the new paperwork created. Businesses will pass that on to you and me by increasing prices.
904
06/12/2020 00:20:58 0 0
bbc
A no deal will bring hardships to the EU and UK. For Politicians to be considering this in the middle of the financial chaos of Covid is an altogether different level of madness.
79
05/12/2020 22:51:56 4 10
bbc
Bozo didnt want a deal. Now his pal has been kicked out he desperate as Biden can't stand him
434
05/12/2020 23:29:12 0 1
bbc
'He desperate'? You're a Kremlin troll with a really poor command of the English language.
60
05/12/2020 22:49:08 21 13
bbc
So long and thanks for all the fish
80
05/12/2020 22:52:01 2 3
bbc
Trouble is nobody eats it!
5
05/12/2020 22:33:12 9 17
bbc
Time to put your big boy pants on Johnson and get this deal done - fishing, sovereignty this is not 1930 Boris but the economy will look that way if you screw this up!
81
BOF
05/12/2020 22:52:08 0 1
bbc
Why should he care. After all he said "f*** business"

Interesting that I cannot actually quote our Prime Minister on this column.
82
05/12/2020 22:52:12 26 23
bbc
nothing worse than a remainer who cant move on...
111
05/12/2020 22:56:27 7 9
bbc
You must have had an easy life then.
119
05/12/2020 22:57:27 2 2
bbc
How do you suggest we "move on"? Move on to what, exactly?
279
05/12/2020 23:16:02 3 1
bbc
I’m a remainer. Move on ? No chance.

Own it.
83
05/12/2020 22:52:16 4 14
bbc
Who cares?

We will be back in within 10 years.

Pointless exercise.
95
05/12/2020 22:54:11 4 3
bbc
More countries will have left in 5 years and we won't be.
108
05/12/2020 22:56:08 0 2
bbc
I hope so.
177
05/12/2020 22:57:10 1 1
bbc
Nah, we won’t. Ever. xx
84
05/12/2020 22:52:21 15 15
bbc
To what point ? There is no way that the UK can give more in the face of EU demands, and the EU, for political reasons of their own, presumably, refuse to be reasonable in negotiations, so nothing can change. Leave them to stew and revisit this when we've finished creating trade agreements everywhere else. No point in wasting more time on awkward entitled nations/blocks.
6
05/12/2020 22:33:33 18 27
bbc
Come on Boris, if anyone can do it you can. Do not let johnny foreigner bully us. Send em packing back home old chap.

Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

A pint of ale to our great leader, working hard in to the night to keep this country safe. Doing what we elected him to do by a rather large mandate too. Good chap.
85
05/12/2020 22:52:22 0 1
bbc
Rule Britannia is anachronistic, we used to be enslaved e.g. the Barbary Coast and having to pay Danegeld.

Sadly, this enslavement could return. Our coast taken by foreign aggressors and our laws made by others.
117
05/12/2020 22:57:04 3 1
bbc
Well lets pray Boris can do all he can to make sure domestic laws are never made outside of our fine country ever again. Our coasts will be safe with Patel at the helm standing ready to shoot anyone who dares to enter our Waters. The White cliffs of dover can take that massive Job Centre Plus sign down at last
86
05/12/2020 22:44:31 6 13
bbc
THIS IS A SERIOUS RISK IN PROCEEDINGS AND A SERIOUS RISK THAT BREXIT MIGHT BE DERAILED.

Please cancel this nonsense, put Brexit in the BIN
98
05/12/2020 22:55:19 3 1
bbc
That ship sailed years ago. Do try and live in the present and the world as it is, not the one you want it to be.
176
05/12/2020 22:56:47 1 1
bbc
Nurse!!!!
87
05/12/2020 22:48:56 14 16
bbc
FRANCE so much for EUunity when they are only interested in whats in it for them...Now tell them to go do one and let us go WTO
113
BOF
05/12/2020 22:56:37 4 4
bbc
I thought the whole reason for getting out of the EU was because its rules prevented nations acting nationally. Now I am told that we must get out of the EU to escape the nationalist behaviors of the French.
88
Kew
05/12/2020 22:52:35 17 16
bbc
Another HYS on this? Surely there can't be anything for the EU-luvies to write which they haven't already been blathering on about for the last 4 years.
175
05/12/2020 22:56:08 6 6
bbc
Expect sunlit uplands in 3.....2.......1......
335
05/12/2020 23:16:09 1 2
bbc
Go back to your Daily Express.
345
05/12/2020 23:21:31 1 3
bbc
They're commenting on the problems most Brexiteers either think don't exist or don't matter that much.
The people who now have the actual responsibility for this country's short to medium term future also see it differently from ardent WTO Brexiteers - and they're not thinking much of JRM's longer term 'it'll all be ok in 50yrs' either.
3
JL
05/12/2020 22:32:39 17 17
bbc
What is “level playing field”?

Price fixing.

Protectionism.

Slavery.
89
BOF
05/12/2020 22:52:39 1 3
bbc
What absolute nonsense!
90
05/12/2020 22:52:41 8 10
bbc
The word is Boris has agreed to EU terms but this weekend is all about saving Boris from his own party.
123
05/12/2020 22:58:19 4 2
bbc
and where has this word come from ?
145
05/12/2020 23:01:40 1 2
bbc
Says who? What 'word'? Something you've heard from a geezer dahn the pub. Name your source? Wasn't BBC, Labour or SNP staffers was it?
185
mf
05/12/2020 23:06:11 0 1
bbc
*Johnson
201
05/12/2020 23:08:12 1 1
bbc
Wrong.
91
05/12/2020 22:53:07 5 13
bbc
Brexit is a terrible mistake.
Europe’s a wonderful place.
It’s where we all belong economically & emotionally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a23945btJYw&t=39s
115
05/12/2020 22:56:47 3 1
bbc
We still will be able to travel there, work there, and importantly trade with each other. How do you think this happened before we joined and how non EU countries get on.
Removed
183
05/12/2020 23:05:45 1 1
bbc
Stop smoking the carpet mate, your sounding really spaced out.
196
05/12/2020 23:07:49 1 1
bbc
In your small minded opinion.
2
05/12/2020 22:31:41 54 16
bbc
Hilarious BBC imagery... so now Boris is Darth Vader
92
BOF
05/12/2020 22:53:30 9 2
bbc
Now don't be beastly about Darth Vadar. I am sure there was a nice guy struggling to get out.
93
05/12/2020 22:53:44 58 20
bbc
Worth pointing out if there is no deal agreed this year, there will be next year as we will trade with each other. Once both sides see the folly of their ways they will go rushing back to the negotiation talks, especially if it all goes pear shaped. Once UK prices go up cos of tariffs and the EU not selling to us. In the long run there is no such thing as a no deal.
194
05/12/2020 23:07:23 87 95
bbc
We are more than happy to trade with the EU. The EU on the other hand are more concerned with controlling us.
195
05/12/2020 23:07:29 7 12
bbc
'Cos of tariffs'? Economic expert are you, or sinking one too many cans on the couch?
347
05/12/2020 23:21:42 9 8
bbc
Yeah but whovwill be hurting the most by that time. Not the EU!
540
05/12/2020 23:38:21 6 4
bbc
A trade deal can take up to ten years to sort out without a deadline.
832
06/12/2020 00:10:58 2 2
bbc
Agree but the more negotiating power will lie with eu in this situation.
94
05/12/2020 22:54:02 5 6
bbc
Trade tariffs a month away, I wonder how much more a BMW will cost.
112
05/12/2020 22:56:29 6 6
bbc
Don't care, sick of these and Mercs and Audis coming up my backside all the time and passing at 80 or 90, as though they own the road...just like the EU thinks it owns the UK?
130
05/12/2020 22:59:19 1 3
bbc
You don't think for one minute, that Mr Macron may be doing all this huffing and puffing to save la France's fishing and its propensity to subsidise its industries, because he is a deeply devisive and unpopular person in France?

'Dozens of protesters have clashed with police in the French capital Paris in fresh demonstrations against a controversial draft security law.'

Who'd have thought?
139
05/12/2020 23:00:34 0 2
bbc
They are only fashion accessoires anyway
410
05/12/2020 23:26:50 1 1
bbc
As I don't intend to but one not a problem. Might be for the people on the shopfloor at BMW though.
83
05/12/2020 22:52:16 4 14
bbc
Who cares?

We will be back in within 10 years.

Pointless exercise.
95
05/12/2020 22:54:11 4 3
bbc
More countries will have left in 5 years and we won't be.
16
05/12/2020 22:37:05 17 28
bbc
Walking political zombie and routinely sacked clapped out has been British Prime Minister versus consumate successful European business woman and leader of a modern forward thinking Europe.
96
05/12/2020 22:54:24 1 2
bbc
this modern forward thinking europe could not care less for the uk...they only want our money and fish
77
05/12/2020 22:51:42 5 10
bbc
For a man that said all along that England would do great out of a no deal, then why is he trying so hard to get a deal! No one believed him then and no one believes him now...Maybe with D.J Trump gone panic/realisation is starting to set in. Sleepless nights Boris? all of a sudden Teresa May's deal seems like a real good idea now?
97
05/12/2020 22:55:15 5 2
bbc
Maybe, because unlike yourself, he's trying to be reasonable and give it all he can.
131
05/12/2020 22:59:21 1 1
bbc
Boris reasonable you having a laff mate
86
05/12/2020 22:44:31 6 13
bbc
THIS IS A SERIOUS RISK IN PROCEEDINGS AND A SERIOUS RISK THAT BREXIT MIGHT BE DERAILED.

Please cancel this nonsense, put Brexit in the BIN
98
05/12/2020 22:55:19 3 1
bbc
That ship sailed years ago. Do try and live in the present and the world as it is, not the one you want it to be.
99
05/12/2020 22:55:22 7 5
bbc
I'd assumed the phone call was to tell each other what compromises will be made, so the teams can reconvene to say those to each other, and finish the deal. But having watched Ursula's clip above, she doesn't look as cheerful as she might. That suggests to me that there is a substantive problem and they don't have a secret way out!
100
05/12/2020 22:55:22 17 16
bbc
Never in the field of human comment have so many ( Brexiteers) said so much with so few realistic points of view.