Bottas just beats Russell to Sakhir pole
05/12/2020 | sport | f1 | 777
Valtteri Bottas edges Mercedes new-boy George Russell to pole position at the Sakhir Grand Prix.
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05/12/2020 18:11:52 20 4
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It's gonna be good tomorrow!!!
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05/12/2020 18:13:26 136 17
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Just goes to show how much of a difference the car can make. Well done Russell!
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05/12/2020 18:40:51 48 70
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Earth to clueless...theres the small matter of a race to complete before jumping to conclusions.
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kai
05/12/2020 18:41:51 10 6
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But still wont/hasn't outdone bottas who has pretty much played second fiddle to Hamilton for the whole time hes been there.just goes to show how great Hamilton is
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05/12/2020 19:36:09 7 0
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No World Champion Past or Present would win a title driving a Haas or Williams - but I’m pretty sure they would in a Red Bull or Mercedes.

World Champions are so because they were driving the best cars - which they helped to build with their feedback
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05/12/2020 19:43:55 2 0
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Did you watch the qualifying or just read the summary? The race is 53 seconds long hence why the gaps are short. George has a brilliant chance at the podium but pressure will be on him as he will be fighting max and bottas as opposed to being lapped by them.
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05/12/2020 20:13:08 0 0
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Very wise comment from the ex Yorkshire fireman.
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SDR
05/12/2020 22:31:38 0 0
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I wonder what data he had to pour over prior to jumping into the car: designed by MercedesAMGF1, refined by Lewis Hamilton.
What would he have achieved with the Aus GP spec. Even GR conceded that he went the wrong way on setup ahead of FP3.
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05/12/2020 18:13:45 154 36
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So, Ricciardo was right. It's 70% car, 30% Driver.
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05/12/2020 18:21:38 110 71
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More 90% car, 10% driver more like. Remember Vettel? 4 time champion
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05/12/2020 18:21:44 10 4
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I’d say more like 90/10
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05/12/2020 18:31:12 7 3
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Yes - but everyone's been talking about GR as an almost certain future world champion. Now he's been given the machinery. Riccardo is still right and armchair analysts are still wrong.
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05/12/2020 18:34:03 25 5
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Even if, some say, it is 1% the driver and 99% the car...that 1% is still very important to get the car from Point A to Point B 'as fastest as the car can go'.

...and not many drivers have been able to do that consistently.
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05/12/2020 18:37:00 11 3
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That is meaningless because the job is 50% done.

When are you lot going to stop counting your chickens and wait till the race is done before jumping to the wrong conclusion yet again?

George is doing a great job so far and should be left to focus on maximizing Sunday.
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kai
05/12/2020 18:43:00 12 7
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But again still finished second behind bottas.hamiltion has for the whole time bottas has been at Mercedes been miles ahead of him
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05/12/2020 18:58:19 19 2
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Precisely why teams pay the big money for the best drivers, they make the difference between points, podiums and race wins, that's also why Merc pay Lewis so much
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05/12/2020 18:59:49 4 0
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Yes agreed, I think it is possible that Riciardo knows better than the legion of never set foot in a racing car brigade posting on here. You then also need to factor in how driver input also contributes to the car. So at least 30%. At elite level 5% is the difference between good and great.
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05/12/2020 19:05:02 4 0
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So what? When was that ever not the case? When Schumacher won 5 WDCs on the trot, who had the best car? Schumacher. Who also had a subservient number 2.
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05/12/2020 19:41:18 1 0
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Welcome to F1. That is how F1 has *always* worked.
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05/12/2020 20:37:43 1 0
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Don’t agree. Look at the track, the top 14 within a second of pole. It’s a ridiculously easy track and very fast, it’s not representative.
So you think anybody could jump in the car and drive like that? You just couldn’t wait to knock Lewis’s accomplishments
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05/12/2020 22:30:18 0 0
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Please tell us how you and/or Ricciardo derived these numbers. I would place my mortgage on the idea that you plucked them from thin air. Why ? Because multivariate analysis on something like motor racing, where there are a huge number of influences at work, is bl**dy difficult, if not impossible. Best to say it's part car, part driver with the former probably the greater influence.
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05/12/2020 18:13:50 23 11
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First of all, well done Russell and Aitken on some outstanding performances for their first Q session in these cars. A lap to LeClerc for dragging the Ferrari far higher than it had any right to go.

And now for Bottas. Pole? Yes, but the smallest margin against teammate than any of the other lead drivers. First time Russell has driven the car in a year. It's looking worse for him every session.
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05/12/2020 21:55:27 1 3
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Yes, so terrible, driving the best racing car in the world, paid millions and can't quite match the most successful driver in history. How awful. Ps you know so little about this sport that I wonder why you bother writing posts about it?
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05/12/2020 18:14:15 86 30
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Russell seems like the real deal. Hamilton should hurry up and sign his contract before Mercedes think about getting somebody just as quick but a lot cheaper. Well done George, roll on tomorrow
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05/12/2020 18:23:23 73 30
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So, you're judging this by qualifying on a very short lap?

Championships are won over a whole season, different circuits and varying weather conditions.

I wish George well, but it will take a lot longer than 53 seconds to prove just how good he is.
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05/12/2020 18:48:09 3 1
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Hahah Mercedes will NEVER let Hamilton go.. LH is more than just a driver to Mercedes
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05/12/2020 18:49:19 12 0
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Lewis isn't great because his 1 lap pace. He is great because he is consistent, has great strategy, us a master in the wet, can string a whole season together, is patient, he builds the team and car around him, is experienced, aggressive when needed....oh and he also happens to be the quickest in a single lap too. There is more to it than quali, or even one race
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05/12/2020 18:56:03 4 0
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I don't think Hamilton's contract is under any threat, really - he's delivered relentlessly.

I do think there's a real chance that they may try and rip up Bottas' contract though if Russell keeps this up tomorrow; it will be very tough for him to accept another year or so at Williams knowing Bottas isn't in his seat by right. Doubt Mercedes will want to lose such a talent, so bye-bye Bottas...
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05/12/2020 19:12:08 1 0
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No World Champion Past or Present would win a title driving a Haas or Williams - but I’m pretty sure they would in a Red Bull or Mercedes.

World Champions are so because they were driving the best cars - which they helped to build with their feedback.
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05/12/2020 18:14:28 6 13
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Shows what most people aleady knew that bottas is nowhere near good enough standard to be Hamilton's teammate.
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05/12/2020 19:12:48 3 3
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Hamilton does not want a competitive teammate. Surely you know that? That is why Bottas has the seat
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05/12/2020 18:14:35 13 16
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This is exactly what I predicted but I said 0.2 not 0.212. I guess Hamilton haters will be confused because they believed bottas was not a good driver. Turns out Hamilton would have been 0.4-0.6 a lap faster than George.
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05/12/2020 18:21:43 3 0
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So VB wouldn't have beaten Hamilton to pole.
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05/12/2020 18:23:17 3 1
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It wasn’t 0.2.... it was 0.02! Russel, verstappen and Leclerc are the fastest 3 in F1! I’ve seen nothing here to change my mind! To step in this car and do that is astonishing!
Hamilton’s race craft is no1.
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05/12/2020 18:27:22 1 0
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0.02. Very different to 0.2. Amazing George... imagine what you’d have done if you fit the seat, had the right size shoes on and had driven the car in a quali before ????
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05/12/2020 18:30:11 2 0
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Everyone? EVERYONE! Please pay attention. We seem to have a real life expert here.
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05/12/2020 18:38:27 0 0
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And you are still confused by numbers less than 1.
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05/12/2020 18:16:30 49 17
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I'm worried that, if Russell wins tomorrow, it will give further fuel to those who say that you could put a 6 year old in a Mercedes and he ...or she...would win the World Championship.
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05/12/2020 18:18:35 47 17
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Merc have already put someone in the car who's never driven it before and look what he achieved. 70% car, 30% Driver. Ricciardos words, not mine.
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05/12/2020 18:20:40 2 0
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VB has beaten Hamilton to pole before .
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05/12/2020 18:22:12 0 0
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It was once said I think in the 2000s by Williams something similar
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05/12/2020 18:25:05 6 0
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Why worry ? people will say that whatever the result ,let them . I'm a Button /Russell fan . But if you are a proper motorsport fan ,you will recognise Hamilton's achievements as huge. His improvement over the years and ability to extract the potential out of this beast of a car is beyond question .
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05/12/2020 18:28:16 1 0
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Why are you worried? Your example is ridiculous, but if we assume you said ‘any driver with real talent’, why is the statement so terrible to you?
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05/12/2020 19:13:45 2 0
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No World Champion Past or Present would win a title driving a Haas or Williams - but I’m pretty sure they would in a Red Bull or Mercedes.

World Champions are so because they were driving the best cars - which they helped to build with their feedback.
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05/12/2020 19:18:22 0 0
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I don’t think your that worried.
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05/12/2020 19:25:36 0 1
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Why worry unless a fan-boy mindset clouds your judgement.

The scenario you outline is nothing new. More reasonably it demonstrates that most of the other drivers on the grid this season would do well even with a first drive of the three-pointed-star devices.

Tomorrow has much added interest with HAM a non-runner. No chance of the same old, same old tomorrow...... except of course, for the cars.
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05/12/2020 18:18:09 12 14
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It’s always the car and a little bit the driver. it’s the same ratio as horse to jockey!
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05/12/2020 18:34:58 2 0
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Funny how the most famous horses are always ridden by the most highly rated jockeys though, isn't it?
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05/12/2020 18:16:30 49 17
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I'm worried that, if Russell wins tomorrow, it will give further fuel to those who say that you could put a 6 year old in a Mercedes and he ...or she...would win the World Championship.
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05/12/2020 18:18:35 47 17
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Merc have already put someone in the car who's never driven it before and look what he achieved. 70% car, 30% Driver. Ricciardos words, not mine.
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05/12/2020 18:28:31 2 1
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Who have they put in the car that has never driven before? You certainly can’t mean Russell who has driven it at great length in testing and has a significant amount of seat time in the Mercedes simulator
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05/12/2020 18:56:18 5 0
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Which is exactly why teams pay the big money for the best drivers, that 30% is the difference between winning and 2nd/3rd place
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05/12/2020 19:27:48 0 1
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Better judges than us Watts see it nearer a 95-5% split. That judgement before anyone had heard of HAM.
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05/12/2020 19:31:18 1 0
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To be fair, a six year old would probably fit in the W11 better than our Boy George
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05/12/2020 22:18:54 0 0
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That 30% is pretty important though - the car can't drive itself yet!!
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05/12/2020 18:18:57 123 12
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For all those commenting on how tight the qualifying was - let's not forget this was a very short lap so it's what we should expect. A longer lap might have revealed more.

Anyone who considers Bottas a mug is sadly misguided.
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05/12/2020 18:24:52 49 86
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0.026 seconds on a teammate driving his first qualifying session in the car. In a car that isn't even his and is not fitted to him. Also, he hasn't driven said car all season in any shape or form until FP.

Bottas is a mug. Pure and simple.
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05/12/2020 18:34:03 1 0
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He is inconsistent though.
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05/12/2020 18:34:42 2 1
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If you double the length of the lap, you could expect the gap to double. 0.52s is still very tight.
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05/12/2020 18:45:51 2 1
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Very well said Helen.
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RB
05/12/2020 19:01:31 1 1
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Very well put
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05/12/2020 19:11:19 4 0
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No World Champion Past or Present would win a title driving a Haas or Williams - but I’m pretty sure they would in a Red Bull or Mercedes.

World Champions are so because they were driving the best cars - which they helped to build with their feedback.
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05/12/2020 19:37:13 0 0
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No World Champion Past or Present would win a title driving a Haas or Williams - but I’m pretty sure they would in a Red Bull or Mercedes.

World Champions are so because they were driving the best cars - which they helped to build with their experience and knowledge
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05/12/2020 18:19:01 6 17
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i hope verstappen wins tomorrow :)
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05/12/2020 18:21:45 1 0
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Against your old team? Nico, Nico, Nico... ;-)
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05/12/2020 18:25:59 1 3
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Its highly likely. Lh is not racing and bottas never puts up a fight. George couldn't even beat bottas
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05/12/2020 18:20:07 12 29
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Anyone else still thing Lewis is a great driver? A rookie straight on P2 says it all.
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Leo
05/12/2020 18:23:29 14 4
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So many idiots on HYS. Lewis has been consistently excellent in a strong car for years, winning many races through outright skill. Get back in your box. Well done GR!!
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05/12/2020 18:23:38 5 0
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when Lewis was in his rookie year he lost the championship by 1 point and matched and beat Alonso double back to back world champion
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05/12/2020 18:24:11 3 1
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And why is the car so good? Lewis doesn't just turn up and drive it at a weekend you know. He's helped develop that car and make it what it is.
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05/12/2020 18:24:31 3 0
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Silly billy man baby
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05/12/2020 18:25:03 6 0
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Yes, every intelligent person still thinks Lewis is a great driver. It would be moronic to think otherwise
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05/12/2020 18:25:17 0 0
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Thats not a rookie. Also he came second to a man who has been severely dominated for years. Max will pressure George in the race and unlike a great driver like Hamilton George and bottas will allow him past
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05/12/2020 18:28:28 3 0
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Yes I do since Lewis as rookie took on a 2 time world champion.
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05/12/2020 18:29:01 3 0
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Absolutely great point. Imagine a rookie who came in in 2007 and competed with with a person who beat a 7 world time champion to the crown and managed the odd podium in his first attempts. Bloomin special! Congratulations George has nothing to do with Lewis in the great job you did today!
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05/12/2020 18:29:35 3 0
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Not taking anything away from GR as this will most probably be his only chance to drive the Merc this year (unless LH recovers in time which is doubtful) to showcase what he can do however, and I stand under correction, LH had podium finishes in the first 5 GP's in his first season in F1 with McLaren. So yes, LH is a great driver.
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05/12/2020 18:34:09 2 2
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As you haven't follwed F1 for long, by the sound of it, I'm here to tell you that one of the drivers with the best car always wins the world championship.
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05/12/2020 18:16:30 49 17
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I'm worried that, if Russell wins tomorrow, it will give further fuel to those who say that you could put a 6 year old in a Mercedes and he ...or she...would win the World Championship.
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05/12/2020 18:20:40 2 0
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VB has beaten Hamilton to pole before .
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05/12/2020 18:20:58 4 10
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So someone who has never driven a competitive car comes 2nd in qualifying on his first trial. Gives credit to a rumour frank William's once said in the 2000s that anyone could win in his car. (I avoided words said to have been said )
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Jon
05/12/2020 18:30:51 2 0
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To be fair even after getting pole Valtteri described it as a 'Mickey Mouse' track. I am not sure much can be taken from this week's performance.

We would get a much better idea if Russel gets to do the next race too.

It's a team sport, and people are too quick to dismiss the role the driver plays in the development of the car too
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05/12/2020 18:31:48 0 0
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This "someone " won F3, moved up ,won F2 ,has never lost Quali in 3 seasons of F1 (until today) ,making Q2 regularly in the grids slowest car . Today was less than a tenth of a second behind the man whose driven this car for 3 years,after having 2 days notice. Yeah ,a real "nobody"!!
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05/12/2020 18:21:22 5 9
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.212 quicker on a fast short circuit... that is a big gap. Russell did well but experience shone through
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05/12/2020 18:24:09 10 1
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It was 0.02 you fools nothing in it!
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05/12/2020 18:25:22 5 0
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0.02 quicker, very narrow margin!!! Very different to 0.212.
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05/12/2020 18:31:54 2 0
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Try some basic maths lessons before you comment on numbers you clearly do not understand.
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05/12/2020 18:21:26 4 2
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I wonder if Mercedes will start looking at replacing Bottas with Russell at some point?
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05/12/2020 18:26:52 0 6
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Would be better to replace Hamilton. LH would never be a graceful 2nd driver following team orders.
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05/12/2020 18:31:38 0 1
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Next year its pretty much signed but maybe new william owners will allow him to leave this year?
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05/12/2020 18:13:45 154 36
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So, Ricciardo was right. It's 70% car, 30% Driver.
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05/12/2020 18:21:38 110 71
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More 90% car, 10% driver more like. Remember Vettel? 4 time champion
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05/12/2020 18:29:41 10 2
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Exactly, though the same could be said of Schumacher Sr. Right time and right place in the Bennetton but also driver input counts for a lot.
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05/12/2020 18:47:37 12 51
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I think you are almost right, 90% car and 10% driver which brings Vettel to mind...but as soon as I think of Hamilton, its more like 97% car and 3% driver.
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05/12/2020 18:58:58 17 3
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That is a little unfair on Vettel because he won those Titles with some really good driving. He is having problems at Ferrari in part because of just how bad their car is & also the fractious relationship that has developed between LeClerc & him & as a result between him & Ferrari. His confidence is shot to pieces. With a new team he should do better. He has at least stuck with it this season.
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05/12/2020 19:10:59 4 0
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No World Champion Past or Present would win a title driving a Haas or Williams - but I’m pretty sure they would in a Red Bull or Mercedes.

World Champions are so because they were driving the best cars - which they helped to build with their feedback.
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05/12/2020 19:38:07 6 1
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Great effort from George. Shows he’s quality. But it’s a short lap and perhaps it should be noted Hamilton has averaged 0.165 seconds ahead of Bottas in qualifying this year. That’s a lot in F1. The race tomorrow will be frenetic.
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05/12/2020 20:57:43 2 1
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I agree with that. Swap all the drivers round in the current cars and the positions would barely change. Difference with past is that a numbers of cars could win and were more equal. Unless Merc has a problem they always going to win, whoever is driving it.
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06/12/2020 09:15:19 0 0
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Rubbish.
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05/12/2020 18:14:35 13 16
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This is exactly what I predicted but I said 0.2 not 0.212. I guess Hamilton haters will be confused because they believed bottas was not a good driver. Turns out Hamilton would have been 0.4-0.6 a lap faster than George.
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05/12/2020 18:21:43 3 0
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So VB wouldn't have beaten Hamilton to pole.
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05/12/2020 18:13:45 154 36
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So, Ricciardo was right. It's 70% car, 30% Driver.
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05/12/2020 18:21:44 10 4
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I’d say more like 90/10
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05/12/2020 18:21:45 48 1
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Well done Bottas and great job GR. The race should be interesting to see how race craft makes a difference tomorrow.
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05/12/2020 18:36:34 8 57
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GR won't beat Bottas - Toto won't let that happen
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05/12/2020 19:02:41 0 2
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Dead right. Unfortunately, I don't think GR will get a podium.
Let's hope I'm wrong.
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05/12/2020 18:19:01 6 17
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i hope verstappen wins tomorrow :)
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05/12/2020 18:21:45 1 0
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Against your old team? Nico, Nico, Nico... ;-)
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05/12/2020 18:16:30 49 17
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I'm worried that, if Russell wins tomorrow, it will give further fuel to those who say that you could put a 6 year old in a Mercedes and he ...or she...would win the World Championship.
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05/12/2020 18:22:12 0 0
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It was once said I think in the 2000s by Williams something similar
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MR
05/12/2020 18:22:24 8 15
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Not taking any merit from Hamilton, but Mercedes cars are so ahead of the pack, that Russell comes from nowhere as a Hamilton substitute and he gets front row tomorrow, not exactly thrilling, let alone when comparing to the heydays of the 80s and 90s.
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05/12/2020 18:27:29 3 0
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"from nowhere"??

So I guess you haven't watched much F1 for the last 2 years. GR has driven the wheels off a completely uncompetitive Williams in qualifying repeatedly - in full races its lack of pace is shown up. And GR is also an F2, F4 & GP3 champion
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05/12/2020 18:23:03 4 10
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Still not about the car though. Suddenly George Russell is also up for SPOTY and a Knighthood because he is an amazing driver, racing his Porsche against everybody else's Nissan Micra.
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05/12/2020 18:23:10 9 19
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Well surprise surprise, the two Mercedes (ie the two fastest cars) qualify 1st and 2nd.

But the Hamilton fan boys will tell you that is a total fluke and would normally only ever happen with LH at the wheel.
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05/12/2020 18:25:44 10 2
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How about you celebrate British F1 success instead of being such a sour, acerbic online presence?

Get behind your country's sportspeople.
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05/12/2020 18:26:32 1 0
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Yawn
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05/12/2020 18:26:48 3 0
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Yeah...? Well I'm Fanboy #1 and I'd like to say George did a great job and deserves to be on the front row.
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05/12/2020 18:27:37 4 1
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You're blind to facts. Surely: A certain bedridden German had the same advantage at Ferrari then? Or... would that be against your anti-Hamilton mentality. Lewis Hamilton is widely regarded as one of the 'greatest drivers ever', only a handful of morons cannot see the facts; that's where you come in.
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05/12/2020 18:30:45 1 0
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No LH fans are well aware of George and leclerc talents as we see a young Lewis in both of them. If anyone can give Lewis a run for his money it is George once has has a year experience at merc.
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05/12/2020 18:14:35 13 16
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This is exactly what I predicted but I said 0.2 not 0.212. I guess Hamilton haters will be confused because they believed bottas was not a good driver. Turns out Hamilton would have been 0.4-0.6 a lap faster than George.
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05/12/2020 18:23:17 3 1
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It wasn’t 0.2.... it was 0.02! Russel, verstappen and Leclerc are the fastest 3 in F1! I’ve seen nothing here to change my mind! To step in this car and do that is astonishing!
Hamilton’s race craft is no1.
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05/12/2020 18:14:15 86 30
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Russell seems like the real deal. Hamilton should hurry up and sign his contract before Mercedes think about getting somebody just as quick but a lot cheaper. Well done George, roll on tomorrow
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05/12/2020 18:23:23 73 30
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So, you're judging this by qualifying on a very short lap?

Championships are won over a whole season, different circuits and varying weather conditions.

I wish George well, but it will take a lot longer than 53 seconds to prove just how good he is.
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05/12/2020 18:31:03 8 0
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Agreed. He has a long way to go but seems talented. A few weeks ago he floored it behind the safety car and went off costing his team points. Top drivers cannot make such mistakes and win. He is not there yet. Rooting for him though.
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05/12/2020 18:48:51 3 1
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Quite glad you're able to reflect a high-level of intellectual sound reasoning above the noise that pervades this forum.
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05/12/2020 18:50:49 6 1
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I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted. What you said is true; George did a great job but it's jumping the gun a bit to say he's got the consistency to win a championship. Hamilton has, and he's proved it multiple times, which is ones of the reasons he gets paid so much.
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05/12/2020 18:55:56 3 3
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you mean like Russell's performance for Williams over 2 seasons?

In your haste to extol Hamilton don't deride George Russell who put in a very creditable performance in the 7 time Champion's shoes
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05/12/2020 19:05:03 1 1
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Impossible to prove anyway no matter what yardstick you use. Be it Bottas or Hamilton.

How many drivers have had, throughout a very long career and even before, the benefit of huge resources, finances from one of the most iconic Automotive manufacturers with an extensive history of Motor Racing successes going back many decades.

So how many ? .... Give you three guesses but really only need one.
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05/12/2020 21:30:43 0 0
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I think the fact he proved himself in 53 seconds is the impressive part
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05/12/2020 21:52:01 0 1
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prove over his last 36 races in F1 and the previous series. If Mercedes operated like RB he would already be a multiple world champion
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06/12/2020 02:36:33 0 0
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Of course it's only qualifying and there's nothing to suggest that George would be consistent over a season. Doesn't mean the professionalism isn't there or that he won't develop.
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06/12/2020 09:18:41 0 0
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Younare missing the point.
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06/12/2020 09:40:48 0 0
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I agree with you. This was a light-hearted remark from me. Hamilton is driving better than ever this year. However if Russell is on the podium at the end of the race, and coupled with his excellent performances at Williams, driving one of the worst cars, he will deserve a permanent seat in a top team. It's also great to see fresh talent coming through.
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05/12/2020 18:20:07 12 29
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Anyone else still thing Lewis is a great driver? A rookie straight on P2 says it all.
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Leo
05/12/2020 18:23:29 14 4
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So many idiots on HYS. Lewis has been consistently excellent in a strong car for years, winning many races through outright skill. Get back in your box. Well done GR!!
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05/12/2020 18:20:07 12 29
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Anyone else still thing Lewis is a great driver? A rookie straight on P2 says it all.
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05/12/2020 18:23:38 5 0
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when Lewis was in his rookie year he lost the championship by 1 point and matched and beat Alonso double back to back world champion
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05/12/2020 18:24:02 74 27
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Is it ok yet to say to say I don't like Hamilton as a person but acknowledge he's a great F1 driver?
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05/12/2020 18:26:16 71 51
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Do you know him? Have you met him? A bit odd to dislike somebody you have never met. Do you get the media to form all your opinions?
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ZG
05/12/2020 18:29:30 7 1
bbc
Has it got anything to do with qualifying? You do know Hamilton wasn't competing, right? (breaking up his ever-extending consecutive starts/points records btw).
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05/12/2020 18:30:16 12 3
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Why not? I do like him as a person and also think he's a great F1 driver.
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05/12/2020 18:52:35 4 5
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I think the fervour of the criticism re LH is a response to the 'Lewis is the GOAT' fanboys who won't countenance the idea that he's going to have to win a WC in a car with less of an advantage over the rest of the field, while not having had a competitive partner since Alonso in the very distant past. He's definitely great, definitely a ridiculous individual, and maybe an all-time great.
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05/12/2020 19:13:23 3 3
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Depends on how well you know LH?
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05/12/2020 19:21:09 1 2
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Sure
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05/12/2020 18:21:22 5 9
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.212 quicker on a fast short circuit... that is a big gap. Russell did well but experience shone through
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05/12/2020 18:24:09 10 1
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It was 0.02 you fools nothing in it!
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05/12/2020 18:20:07 12 29
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Anyone else still thing Lewis is a great driver? A rookie straight on P2 says it all.
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05/12/2020 18:24:11 3 1
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And why is the car so good? Lewis doesn't just turn up and drive it at a weekend you know. He's helped develop that car and make it what it is.
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05/12/2020 18:31:36 0 3
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Russell just turned up and drove it this weekend - going well so far.

And even for a LH fan boy giving him the credit for developing the car is taking it a bit far. I feel bad for the team that actually put majority of the work in.
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05/12/2020 18:24:22 12 3
bbc
Just shows how far ahead that Mercedes car is ahead of the rest. F1 hasn't been competitive for years.
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05/12/2020 18:20:07 12 29
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Anyone else still thing Lewis is a great driver? A rookie straight on P2 says it all.
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05/12/2020 18:24:31 3 0
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Silly billy man baby
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05/12/2020 18:24:37 4 5
bbc
Rich boy yet again
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ZG
05/12/2020 18:26:53 3 1
bbc
Is it a chip or an old chestnut that's bothering your shoulder again?
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05/12/2020 18:18:57 123 12
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For all those commenting on how tight the qualifying was - let's not forget this was a very short lap so it's what we should expect. A longer lap might have revealed more.

Anyone who considers Bottas a mug is sadly misguided.
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05/12/2020 18:24:52 49 86
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0.026 seconds on a teammate driving his first qualifying session in the car. In a car that isn't even his and is not fitted to him. Also, he hasn't driven said car all season in any shape or form until FP.

Bottas is a mug. Pure and simple.
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05/12/2020 18:32:00 6 1
bbc
Well, we'll see.
My prediction for the race:
1. Bottas
2. Verstappen
3.Perez
4. Russell

And Russell will have done an excellent job.
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05/12/2020 22:35:33 1 0
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If Bottas is a mug, what does that make you ? You're probably someone who has never even won a race at your local go-kart track. Bottas is an incredibly talented driver, one of the very best on the planet. The statistics show that Hamilton has done better in the same Mercedes as Bottas, but neither that nor Russell's excellent efforts make the latter in any way a mug.
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05/12/2020 18:25:01 0 8
bbc
Best driver of today’s qualifying? Le Clerc. Closely followed by Hamilton. Then Russell. Bad day for Bottas and Verstappen.
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05/12/2020 18:43:37 0 0
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Best driver of today's qualifying ??
Le Clerc then Hamilton????
Was Hamilton not ill in bed???
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05/12/2020 18:20:07 12 29
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Anyone else still thing Lewis is a great driver? A rookie straight on P2 says it all.
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05/12/2020 18:25:03 6 0
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Yes, every intelligent person still thinks Lewis is a great driver. It would be moronic to think otherwise
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05/12/2020 18:25:04 10 2
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Well done George, considering the limited time with the car. Now he MUST have a clean race and get some points for the first time.
Kind of refreshing to not see Lewis on the grid, but that’s a compliment to his skills and pace.
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05/12/2020 18:16:30 49 17
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I'm worried that, if Russell wins tomorrow, it will give further fuel to those who say that you could put a 6 year old in a Mercedes and he ...or she...would win the World Championship.
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05/12/2020 18:25:05 6 0
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Why worry ? people will say that whatever the result ,let them . I'm a Button /Russell fan . But if you are a proper motorsport fan ,you will recognise Hamilton's achievements as huge. His improvement over the years and ability to extract the potential out of this beast of a car is beyond question .
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05/12/2020 18:20:07 12 29
bbc
Anyone else still thing Lewis is a great driver? A rookie straight on P2 says it all.
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05/12/2020 18:25:17 0 0
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Thats not a rookie. Also he came second to a man who has been severely dominated for years. Max will pressure George in the race and unlike a great driver like Hamilton George and bottas will allow him past
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05/12/2020 18:21:22 5 9
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.212 quicker on a fast short circuit... that is a big gap. Russell did well but experience shone through
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05/12/2020 18:25:22 5 0
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0.02 quicker, very narrow margin!!! Very different to 0.212.
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05/12/2020 18:23:10 9 19
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Well surprise surprise, the two Mercedes (ie the two fastest cars) qualify 1st and 2nd.

But the Hamilton fan boys will tell you that is a total fluke and would normally only ever happen with LH at the wheel.
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05/12/2020 18:25:44 10 2
bbc
How about you celebrate British F1 success instead of being such a sour, acerbic online presence?

Get behind your country's sportspeople.
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ZG
05/12/2020 18:25:51 26 3
bbc
Great drive from Russell. Better drive from Bottas. Soft tyres tomorrow for Verstappen. I just hope he can avoid crashing into the Mercedes cars in his 1st corner antics. I'd like to see a race rather than a couple of guys walking back to the pits. Go get some championship points, George!
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05/12/2020 19:18:36 3 8
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He has calmed down quite a bit from previous seasons.

Even if VER does something like that again there will always be those who will look for excuses to blame just about anyone. Usually other drivers with names like Kvyat, Vettel and a few others.

There is a hard core of FAN-BOYS for whom their chosen ones are never to blame.

I see the repainted Black former silver arrows struggled again today.
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05/12/2020 18:19:01 6 17
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i hope verstappen wins tomorrow :)
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05/12/2020 18:25:59 1 3
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Its highly likely. Lh is not racing and bottas never puts up a fight. George couldn't even beat bottas
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05/12/2020 18:26:02 120 27
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Check out Russell's record, absolutely stunning and no surprise he was snapped up by Mercedes-AMG to be part of their junior driver programme in 2017. This is a young man with huge talent and given a competitive car, as this weekend, he will do the business. It has nothing to do with Hamilton although the not-so-closet racists will no doubt be out in force trying to make some negative points.
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05/12/2020 18:49:44 69 6
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Just cause someone is not pro Hamilton is does not mean they are racist, although in some cases that might be true.
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05/12/2020 18:53:33 12 3
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Agreed. The haters seem to forget Lewis' history. He dominanted the lower formulas like George has. Oh and Lewis stuck in on pole and won the race on his F1 debut, against a 2 time world champ.

It's not just about raw driving talent. It's about being rounded and intelligent. I'm sure George will be one day too. But no way he could beat Lewis in the same car over a season. Not yet anywy
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05/12/2020 18:57:00 15 3
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dont be that guy that calls anyone who critisizes lewis hamilton a racist. i have been his biggest fan since day one but like everyone else he has his faults that rightfully so should be called out.
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05/12/2020 18:58:29 4 0
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totally agree with you though about GR. his record is immense and is surely the future for mercedes
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05/12/2020 19:13:17 6 0
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No World Champion Past or Present would win a title driving a Haas or Williams - but I’m pretty sure they would in a Red Bull or Mercedes.

World Champions are so because they were driving the best cars - which they helped to build with their feedback.
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05/12/2020 21:33:16 2 3
bbc
So the usual stupid argument, if you don't back Hamilton, automatically a racist.
Strange isn't it, sir Philip Green vilified for off-shoring vast sums, Hamilton treated as a hero, for doing precisely the same thing, just more so.
Double standards or what.
Hamilton might just find his contract negotiations with merc just took a huge hit, who needs him if Russel can do well, at about 33% of the pay
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KO
05/12/2020 21:36:27 0 1
bbc
I'm a big snooker fan and during the 80s / 90s many people disliked Davis / Hendry for their perceived (and real) superiority and apparent arrogance. Not long after they stopped winning, they both became well-liked commentators.

I don't know if it's arrogance or winners we don't like, but there is time for LH to be liked after retirement. I don't think it's a race issue for the majority.
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05/12/2020 18:24:02 74 27
bbc
Is it ok yet to say to say I don't like Hamilton as a person but acknowledge he's a great F1 driver?
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05/12/2020 18:26:16 71 51
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Do you know him? Have you met him? A bit odd to dislike somebody you have never met. Do you get the media to form all your opinions?
317
05/12/2020 19:36:36 3 0
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Your own comment also applies to yourself!
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05/12/2020 19:38:09 7 4
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Donald Trump - a guy nearly all will never meet but is generally despised outside of yankville. But he’s not allowed to dislike Hamilton even though the same view is formed from the same viewing point?

Now off you pop to bed, don’t forget to cuddle your Hamilton cuddly toy.
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05/12/2020 20:16:55 2 1
bbc
No just from the stupid way he acts to get himself into the media.
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VoR
05/12/2020 21:06:13 1 1
bbc
I dislike Trump and I've never met him. And I would definitely still dislike him if I spent time with him.

You can see enough of a person to form a liking or disliking, without meeting them.

Personally I don't like or dislike him, but I can easily see how someone might, legitimately.
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05/12/2020 21:55:26 2 3
bbc
Have met him, and many others. Hamilton is not the greatest person. Nico Rosberg, Mark Webber, Daniel Ricardo, Sebastian Vettel all great people. Jenson Button also not so good. Damon Hill too shy to even come close to a crowd of people.
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06/12/2020 02:37:59 0 0
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You don't have to meet someone in person to know you dislike them.
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05/12/2020 18:26:23 3 6
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So let's get this straight, Verstappen in some people's eyes is the best driver on the grid, others say Hamilton, so how the hell did Russell out qualify him?? In other words for all who think Hamilton is on another planet explain it to me please.
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05/12/2020 18:28:45 3 0
bbc
Russel is a amazing driver but has been in a car that is not competitive at all. You have now moved him into a top tier car and now the world has seen what he was always capable of
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05/12/2020 18:30:29 0 0
bbc
Same planet, but best car by a mile.
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05/12/2020 18:23:10 9 19
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Well surprise surprise, the two Mercedes (ie the two fastest cars) qualify 1st and 2nd.

But the Hamilton fan boys will tell you that is a total fluke and would normally only ever happen with LH at the wheel.
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05/12/2020 18:26:32 1 0
bbc
Yawn
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05/12/2020 18:26:41 1 3
bbc
Just proves it’s the at not the driver dies it not ??
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ZG
05/12/2020 18:33:10 2 1
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It dies not.
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05/12/2020 18:23:10 9 19
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Well surprise surprise, the two Mercedes (ie the two fastest cars) qualify 1st and 2nd.

But the Hamilton fan boys will tell you that is a total fluke and would normally only ever happen with LH at the wheel.
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05/12/2020 18:26:48 3 0
bbc
Yeah...? Well I'm Fanboy #1 and I'd like to say George did a great job and deserves to be on the front row.
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05/12/2020 18:21:26 4 2
bbc
I wonder if Mercedes will start looking at replacing Bottas with Russell at some point?
53
05/12/2020 18:26:52 0 6
bbc
Would be better to replace Hamilton. LH would never be a graceful 2nd driver following team orders.
104
05/12/2020 18:34:43 1 0
bbc
Only a few posts in and already you've established your credentials. Stephen McGovern is not the only one staring with incredulity at your biased nonsense.
36
05/12/2020 18:24:37 4 5
bbc
Rich boy yet again
54
ZG
05/12/2020 18:26:53 3 1
bbc
Is it a chip or an old chestnut that's bothering your shoulder again?
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05/12/2020 18:27:08 19 2
bbc
Well done Bottas. Really looking forward to the race tomorrow! Should be more competitive and exciting with Hamilton unable to participate.
P.S. get well soon Lewis.
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05/12/2020 18:27:10 161 6
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Perhaps Russell is a great driver in what is obviously a great car. Anyone consider that?
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05/12/2020 18:53:49 149 75
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With all respect to George when I make the case for how great Lewis is I will talk about who he's surpassed over 10 years like Fangio, Senna and Schumacher.

When the Hamilton haters make the case they use George Russell over 2 days.

That goes to show just how pathetic and flimsy the arguments are from the Hamilton haters.
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05/12/2020 19:11:35 28 0
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No World Champion Past or Present would win a title driving a Haas or Williams - but I’m pretty sure they would in a Red Bull or Mercedes.

World Champions are so because they were driving the best cars - which they helped to build with their feedback.
449
05/12/2020 20:45:22 4 0
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The same people said the same things about Alonso when a rookie called Lewis jumped in the McLaren and was quick straight away.
472
05/12/2020 21:00:11 1 0
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His record in other formula backs this up.
589
05/12/2020 22:05:19 1 0
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Russell will only become a great driver if/when he has a long string of successful results on his CV. At the moment he is fast, talented and promising, which is as much as anyone can expect at this stage of his career. Tomorrow will be a very big test - he hasn't yet excelled on Sundays, and it would be a very good time to start. I wish him well.
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05/12/2020 18:14:35 13 16
bbc
This is exactly what I predicted but I said 0.2 not 0.212. I guess Hamilton haters will be confused because they believed bottas was not a good driver. Turns out Hamilton would have been 0.4-0.6 a lap faster than George.
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05/12/2020 18:27:22 1 0
bbc
0.02. Very different to 0.2. Amazing George... imagine what you’d have done if you fit the seat, had the right size shoes on and had driven the car in a quali before ????
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MR
05/12/2020 18:22:24 8 15
bbc
Not taking any merit from Hamilton, but Mercedes cars are so ahead of the pack, that Russell comes from nowhere as a Hamilton substitute and he gets front row tomorrow, not exactly thrilling, let alone when comparing to the heydays of the 80s and 90s.
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05/12/2020 18:27:29 3 0
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"from nowhere"??

So I guess you haven't watched much F1 for the last 2 years. GR has driven the wheels off a completely uncompetitive Williams in qualifying repeatedly - in full races its lack of pace is shown up. And GR is also an F2, F4 & GP3 champion
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05/12/2020 18:23:10 9 19
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Well surprise surprise, the two Mercedes (ie the two fastest cars) qualify 1st and 2nd.

But the Hamilton fan boys will tell you that is a total fluke and would normally only ever happen with LH at the wheel.
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05/12/2020 18:27:37 4 1
bbc
You're blind to facts. Surely: A certain bedridden German had the same advantage at Ferrari then? Or... would that be against your anti-Hamilton mentality. Lewis Hamilton is widely regarded as one of the 'greatest drivers ever', only a handful of morons cannot see the facts; that's where you come in.
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05/12/2020 18:27:38 10 11
bbc
Great job by Russel such a pity that Hamilton haters and closet racists will be tying themselves in pretzels trying to write off a decades worth of amazing driving and 7 world titles.
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05/12/2020 18:50:30 3 0
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Mate why is it racist if you don't allow oneself to be forced into saying and thinking Hamilton is the GOAT but all media & his fans??? Honestly...the greatest of all time?? One of the best ever?? Everyone can see how dominant this Merc has been for his last 6 World titles! Everyone! Do you honestly believe Seb wouldn't have 6 WC's in the same car? Max? Sainz and Leclerc would win in it. Ricardo.
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05/12/2020 18:27:48 28 3
bbc
A simply brilliant performance from George Russell. I hope he sticks it to all the naysayers tomorrow. Well Done George.
765
06/12/2020 14:40:11 0 0
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There are no naysayers. Everyone wants GR to do well. All I see are Hamilton haters
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05/12/2020 18:28:13 12 12
bbc
Great to see the clueless Hamilton haters forgetting the times he chased down the superior Ferrari driven by a 4 time WC. But then facts never had anything to do with it for them.
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TCP
05/12/2020 18:32:48 4 5
bbc
Mercedes was superior to ferrari, as evidenced by Bottas' superior results next to Raikkonen. Anyone with eyes could also tell you the merc was a better package by virtue of superior qualy, reliability and better strategy calls. Some people see only what they want to see...
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05/12/2020 18:38:01 0 0
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I think the broader point here is that Vettel is greatly flattered by four WDCs. Had Leclerc been in that Ferrari those championships will have been a lot tighter.
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05/12/2020 18:16:30 49 17
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I'm worried that, if Russell wins tomorrow, it will give further fuel to those who say that you could put a 6 year old in a Mercedes and he ...or she...would win the World Championship.
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05/12/2020 18:28:16 1 0
bbc
Why are you worried? Your example is ridiculous, but if we assume you said ‘any driver with real talent’, why is the statement so terrible to you?
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05/12/2020 18:57:08 2 0
bbc
It's called sarcasm.....
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05/12/2020 18:20:07 12 29
bbc
Anyone else still thing Lewis is a great driver? A rookie straight on P2 says it all.
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05/12/2020 18:28:28 3 0
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Yes I do since Lewis as rookie took on a 2 time world champion.
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05/12/2020 18:18:35 47 17
bbc
Merc have already put someone in the car who's never driven it before and look what he achieved. 70% car, 30% Driver. Ricciardos words, not mine.
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05/12/2020 18:28:31 2 1
bbc
Who have they put in the car that has never driven before? You certainly can’t mean Russell who has driven it at great length in testing and has a significant amount of seat time in the Mercedes simulator
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05/12/2020 18:26:23 3 6
bbc
So let's get this straight, Verstappen in some people's eyes is the best driver on the grid, others say Hamilton, so how the hell did Russell out qualify him?? In other words for all who think Hamilton is on another planet explain it to me please.
66
05/12/2020 18:28:45 3 0
bbc
Russel is a amazing driver but has been in a car that is not competitive at all. You have now moved him into a top tier car and now the world has seen what he was always capable of
13
05/12/2020 18:20:07 12 29
bbc
Anyone else still thing Lewis is a great driver? A rookie straight on P2 says it all.
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05/12/2020 18:29:01 3 0
bbc
Absolutely great point. Imagine a rookie who came in in 2007 and competed with with a person who beat a 7 world time champion to the crown and managed the odd podium in his first attempts. Bloomin special! Congratulations George has nothing to do with Lewis in the great job you did today!
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05/12/2020 18:29:09 30 3
bbc
Just because Russell has 0 points he is not a bad driver in the slightest. F3 and F2 Champion, similar junior record going into F1 as Hamilton. Just hasn’t been able to show it because his Williams is poor. It’s impressive to be so close to a strong qualifier like Bottas after so few laps in the Mercedes. Go get them tomorrow George!
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05/12/2020 18:29:16 19 4
bbc
Mad Max and his fans must be seething.
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05/12/2020 18:24:02 74 27
bbc
Is it ok yet to say to say I don't like Hamilton as a person but acknowledge he's a great F1 driver?
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ZG
05/12/2020 18:29:30 7 1
bbc
Has it got anything to do with qualifying? You do know Hamilton wasn't competing, right? (breaking up his ever-extending consecutive starts/points records btw).
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05/12/2020 18:20:07 12 29
bbc
Anyone else still thing Lewis is a great driver? A rookie straight on P2 says it all.
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05/12/2020 18:29:35 3 0
bbc
Not taking anything away from GR as this will most probably be his only chance to drive the Merc this year (unless LH recovers in time which is doubtful) to showcase what he can do however, and I stand under correction, LH had podium finishes in the first 5 GP's in his first season in F1 with McLaren. So yes, LH is a great driver.
606
05/12/2020 22:10:42 0 0
bbc
he actually placed in the first 9 races in his first season, crazy fact is in his tenth race as he hadn't finished outside of the top 3 before he had to actually ask where he should park
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05/12/2020 18:21:38 110 71
bbc
More 90% car, 10% driver more like. Remember Vettel? 4 time champion
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05/12/2020 18:29:41 10 2
bbc
Exactly, though the same could be said of Schumacher Sr. Right time and right place in the Bennetton but also driver input counts for a lot.
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05/12/2020 19:40:27 2 1
bbc
I don't necessarily think people are LH haters, more like commentator and pundit haters. I can't stick them talking about how Lewis goat when that car is so superior to everything else. The other week in the rain LH slid off 2 or 3 times. He wins the race but was lucky not to bin it.
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05/12/2020 19:44:38 1 0
bbc
Absolutely true, if you don't have the fastest car, you don't win.
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05/12/2020 18:29:45 8 3
bbc
Well done George - future bodes well.

Now, get some haul of points tomorrow (hopefully).

The start should be interesting considering GR is on the 'dirty' side of the grid and MV or CL might 'pick a tow' as well...

PS

Get well soon Champ.

#TeamLH
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GIN
05/12/2020 18:30:06 0 0
bbc
Well done to Mercedes, GR has done a good job this weekend so far and should do well in the race. MV is likely to run into GR in the 1st lap.
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05/12/2020 18:30:07 15 10
bbc
With Russell coming in as a reserve for Hamilton and putting in a performance like that it shows categorically that the car is (and has been) a major factor in the success of Hamilton. Russell could not of achieved that in any other car ... fact!
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05/12/2020 19:59:33 5 2
bbc
Doesn’t take a genius to figure that out, that’s the nature of F1, always has been, you see real genius in the wet, Hamilton, Schumacher, Senna etc
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05/12/2020 18:14:35 13 16
bbc
This is exactly what I predicted but I said 0.2 not 0.212. I guess Hamilton haters will be confused because they believed bottas was not a good driver. Turns out Hamilton would have been 0.4-0.6 a lap faster than George.
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05/12/2020 18:30:11 2 0
bbc
Everyone? EVERYONE! Please pay attention. We seem to have a real life expert here.
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05/12/2020 18:24:02 74 27
bbc
Is it ok yet to say to say I don't like Hamilton as a person but acknowledge he's a great F1 driver?
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05/12/2020 18:30:16 12 3
bbc
Why not? I do like him as a person and also think he's a great F1 driver.
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05/12/2020 18:30:16 8 7
bbc
this is final proof F1 is a farce . it s a bit like horse races , all about the horse and not really about the jockey. this would never happen in real sports like football or tennis.
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05/12/2020 18:37:48 4 0
bbc
F1, like all team sports, is about the sum of the parts. Messi or Ronaldinho wouldn’t win many champions league medals with...Leyton Orient
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05/12/2020 18:37:56 1 0
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Not really, in the Williams Russell has consistently proven this season he is a real talent, out performing in the car. Just look at Albon at red bull, he cannot get near Verstappen.
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05/12/2020 18:38:31 0 0
bbc
Real sport. Lol. ??
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cjb
05/12/2020 18:39:21 1 0
bbc
Your being a wee bit disrespectful to the jockeys

No grid in racing, so far more tactics required of jockeys than in F1

But agreed. Piggot, Carson and Dettori would never achieve their status without the great horses.
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05/12/2020 18:26:23 3 6
bbc
So let's get this straight, Verstappen in some people's eyes is the best driver on the grid, others say Hamilton, so how the hell did Russell out qualify him?? In other words for all who think Hamilton is on another planet explain it to me please.
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05/12/2020 18:30:29 0 0
bbc
Same planet, but best car by a mile.
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05/12/2020 18:30:29 3 6
bbc
Just wondered if it was the Mercedes rather than Hamilton and a young kid drives it in qualifying and finishes second with all the excellent drivers in their non Mercedes cars behind. Makes you think!
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05/12/2020 18:37:38 2 2
bbc
Keep thinking. I don't think you have worked it out.
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05/12/2020 18:23:10 9 19
bbc
Well surprise surprise, the two Mercedes (ie the two fastest cars) qualify 1st and 2nd.

But the Hamilton fan boys will tell you that is a total fluke and would normally only ever happen with LH at the wheel.
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05/12/2020 18:30:45 1 0
bbc
No LH fans are well aware of George and leclerc talents as we see a young Lewis in both of them. If anyone can give Lewis a run for his money it is George once has has a year experience at merc.
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05/12/2020 18:20:58 4 10
bbc
So someone who has never driven a competitive car comes 2nd in qualifying on his first trial. Gives credit to a rumour frank William's once said in the 2000s that anyone could win in his car. (I avoided words said to have been said )
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Jon
05/12/2020 18:30:51 2 0
bbc
To be fair even after getting pole Valtteri described it as a 'Mickey Mouse' track. I am not sure much can be taken from this week's performance.

We would get a much better idea if Russel gets to do the next race too.

It's a team sport, and people are too quick to dismiss the role the driver plays in the development of the car too
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05/12/2020 18:23:23 73 30
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So, you're judging this by qualifying on a very short lap?

Championships are won over a whole season, different circuits and varying weather conditions.

I wish George well, but it will take a lot longer than 53 seconds to prove just how good he is.
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05/12/2020 18:31:03 8 0
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Agreed. He has a long way to go but seems talented. A few weeks ago he floored it behind the safety car and went off costing his team points. Top drivers cannot make such mistakes and win. He is not there yet. Rooting for him though.
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05/12/2020 18:13:45 154 36
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So, Ricciardo was right. It's 70% car, 30% Driver.
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05/12/2020 18:31:12 7 3
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Yes - but everyone's been talking about GR as an almost certain future world champion. Now he's been given the machinery. Riccardo is still right and armchair analysts are still wrong.
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05/12/2020 22:28:28 0 0
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If GR gets a drive in a Mercedes, and the Mercedes team continue to produce the best car, then he does look like he has a very good chance of being a World Champion sometime in the next decade. Verstappen and Leclerc look like future world champions, if they get in the best car.
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05/12/2020 18:31:32 4 1
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Top job by Russell to get second on the grid in an 'alien' car. He struggled in Q2 on turn one as he couldn't get any rotation. Mercedes will sort that out and the lad will give the naysayers something to think about tomorrow. Proof positive that the Mercedes is the best car on the grid by a country mile. The lad takes it for a practice and drives the nuts off it forP2 on the grid. Go George.
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05/12/2020 18:24:11 3 1
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And why is the car so good? Lewis doesn't just turn up and drive it at a weekend you know. He's helped develop that car and make it what it is.
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05/12/2020 18:31:36 0 3
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Russell just turned up and drove it this weekend - going well so far.

And even for a LH fan boy giving him the credit for developing the car is taking it a bit far. I feel bad for the team that actually put majority of the work in.
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05/12/2020 18:21:26 4 2
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I wonder if Mercedes will start looking at replacing Bottas with Russell at some point?
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05/12/2020 18:31:38 0 1
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Next year its pretty much signed but maybe new william owners will allow him to leave this year?
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05/12/2020 18:20:58 4 10
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So someone who has never driven a competitive car comes 2nd in qualifying on his first trial. Gives credit to a rumour frank William's once said in the 2000s that anyone could win in his car. (I avoided words said to have been said )
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05/12/2020 18:31:48 0 0
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This "someone " won F3, moved up ,won F2 ,has never lost Quali in 3 seasons of F1 (until today) ,making Q2 regularly in the grids slowest car . Today was less than a tenth of a second behind the man whose driven this car for 3 years,after having 2 days notice. Yeah ,a real "nobody"!!
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05/12/2020 18:21:22 5 9
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.212 quicker on a fast short circuit... that is a big gap. Russell did well but experience shone through
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05/12/2020 18:31:54 2 0
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Try some basic maths lessons before you comment on numbers you clearly do not understand.
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05/12/2020 18:34:22 0 0
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Calm down, glad it was only that margin... I got it wrong and sorry. Russell is a great driver and narrowed the gap on the second run good stuff
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05/12/2020 18:24:52 49 86
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0.026 seconds on a teammate driving his first qualifying session in the car. In a car that isn't even his and is not fitted to him. Also, he hasn't driven said car all season in any shape or form until FP.

Bottas is a mug. Pure and simple.
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05/12/2020 18:32:00 6 1
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Well, we'll see.
My prediction for the race:
1. Bottas
2. Verstappen
3.Perez
4. Russell

And Russell will have done an excellent job.
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05/12/2020 18:32:42 3 5
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It's the CAR that matters, Guys!
It always has been - It always will be!
George for SPOTY award?
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cjb
05/12/2020 18:35:25 2 2
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Sorry mate -

Maybe better the BEEB gave their SPOTTY TO THE CAR, not the driver.
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05/12/2020 18:57:57 0 0
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In 1982 there were 11 different winners. But you are correct you have to go back a long time to find parity in F1.
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05/12/2020 19:02:49 0 0
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We already have a Saint George so why not a Sir George
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05/12/2020 18:32:43 0 1
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I wonder what Lewis is thinking back home???
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05/12/2020 18:34:55 3 2
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That he has 7 championships so who cares what someone on a bbc sport hys is thinking?
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05/12/2020 18:38:09 1 3
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I bet he’s been on the blower to Toto telling him to ‘turn the settings down’ on Russell’s car so that he has a mediocre race.
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05/12/2020 18:40:10 0 0
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"What are you saying...?? Russell isn't even going to be on the front row. He's already down on Bottas in Q1!!!"
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You must feel like complete silly billy with your post. Russell second on the grid and Bottas on pole by a whisper. Not bad for a kiddy is he. quack quack quack quack.
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05/12/2020 18:57:59 0 0
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He's thinking no way is that guy getting into the team . That's how all F1 drivers think.
Great to see the clueless Hamilton haters forgetting the times he chased down the superior Ferrari driven by a 4 time WC. But then facts never had anything to do with it for them.
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05/12/2020 18:32:48 4 5
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Mercedes was superior to ferrari, as evidenced by Bottas' superior results next to Raikkonen. Anyone with eyes could also tell you the merc was a better package by virtue of superior qualy, reliability and better strategy calls. Some people see only what they want to see...
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05/12/2020 18:26:41 1 3
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Just proves it’s the at not the driver dies it not ??
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ZG
05/12/2020 18:33:10 2 1
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It dies not.
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05/12/2020 18:33:14 10 2
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Rather than have a car or driver conversation again why not show respect to George for that epic performance. He is a real talent and merc know this, which is they really wanted him to have this opportunity to see what he is like under pressure because he is THEIR FUTURE! and he passed today's test. Wish him all the goodluck for tomorrow will ya!

True F1 fans need not comment on the drivel!
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cjb
05/12/2020 18:33:49 4 8
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This tells us what we’ve known about F1 all along. -

The results ere nowt to do wi the driver. It’s the best car that wins

Proven by a novice beating all bar 1

Shows F1 for the farce it is.
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05/12/2020 19:08:06 1 1
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"Shows F1 for the farce it is."

And the super clever cjb has to spend his time coming on here and telling us?

Definitely a farce somewhere...
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05/12/2020 18:33:51 5 7
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Thanks god russel proved a point. Winning is more to do with the car nowadays than the driver. No disrespect towards LH, but not matter how many titles, he is still not up there with Fangio and Senna
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05/12/2020 18:40:56 2 2
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But you are disrespecting LH and indeed GR with this post? GR has proven himself to be an immensely talented driver, why rubbish what he did today?
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05/12/2020 19:15:44 0 1
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He has won more races than both of them put together.
Senna was good and brave and fast but he wasn't clever. He went off on cold tyres because he wasn't paying attention.
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05/12/2020 18:18:57 123 12
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For all those commenting on how tight the qualifying was - let's not forget this was a very short lap so it's what we should expect. A longer lap might have revealed more.

Anyone who considers Bottas a mug is sadly misguided.
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05/12/2020 18:34:03 1 0
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He is inconsistent though.
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05/12/2020 18:13:45 154 36
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So, Ricciardo was right. It's 70% car, 30% Driver.
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05/12/2020 18:34:03 25 5
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Even if, some say, it is 1% the driver and 99% the car...that 1% is still very important to get the car from Point A to Point B 'as fastest as the car can go'.

...and not many drivers have been able to do that consistently.
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05/12/2020 18:20:07 12 29
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Anyone else still thing Lewis is a great driver? A rookie straight on P2 says it all.
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05/12/2020 18:34:09 2 2
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As you haven't follwed F1 for long, by the sound of it, I'm here to tell you that one of the drivers with the best car always wins the world championship.