Russell sets pace in first practice
04/12/2020 | sport | f1 | 547
Britain's George Russell sets the fastest time in first practice at the Sakhir Grand Prix as he has his first miles in Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes.
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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Hex
04/12/2020 16:03:09 23 5
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Tell that to Bottas.
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04/12/2020 16:04:20 9 5
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not at all there are many examples of hamiltons car underperforming at the track yet him still taking the win,
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tv1
04/12/2020 16:05:02 4 0
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i agree, same for Bottas, trying to match the pace and then making mistakes.
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04/12/2020 16:05:03 4 0
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Really? Straight in with that old chestnut? Maybe Russel is a good driver as he’s thought to be and respected as such?
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04/12/2020 16:05:07 6 2
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Well, apart from the fact that it doesn't, it's a nice theory.
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04/12/2020 16:05:29 8 4
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I think it proves more about Bottas being a bit average rather than diminishing Hamilton's achievements.
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04/12/2020 16:06:35 15 2
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Isn't it bizarre how the best teams, with the best cars seem to attract the best drivers ...

Cannot, for one moment, think why that might happen, can you?
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04/12/2020 16:06:58 11 2
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Top of first practice proves nothing.
Consistent delivery of points when things are not going well are the measure of a driver and the mark of Hamilton who can finish a race on three wheels.
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04/12/2020 16:09:31 6 0
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Really? After one practice session that he wasn't even taking part in you think this proves that he isn't that great? I know we're all entitled to our opinions but come on, this isn't even a remotely sensible point of view. What it does prove is that Russle is perfectly capable of jumping into a fast car and being able to drive it quickly.
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04/12/2020 16:09:59 2 3
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It is more than a touch above. It is 7 years or so of uncompetitive domination that only ensured a Merc driver could win. Not their fault they dominated but quite a few drivers would have won 5 or 6 titles in that car.
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04/12/2020 16:10:10 5 0
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Wrongthink. Look at what Russell has been doing in the Williams, arguably one of the worst cars on the grid 9 times in Q2 and often just getting pipped on points. Now translate that to a Merc. That is why Russell is contracted to Merc.
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04/12/2020 16:11:14 2 0
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Steady. It's FP1. If he is in the same spot come Sunday afternoon you'll maybe have a bit of a point. Only a bit.
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04/12/2020 16:12:21 5 0
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It proves absolutely nothing.

Diddly-squat.
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04/12/2020 16:16:18 4 1
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I knew it would that happen. Rather than the possibility that Russell is actually highly talented we are back to someone saying it is all about the car. I hope GR does well but it is, after all only 1st Practice. LH is now the complete package. MV often puts in his fastest laps after a pit stops LH eases them in and 'cures' the tyres before 'going for it' hence MV needed a extra stop LH didn't
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04/12/2020 16:20:11 7 0
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7-time world champion, race wins record holder and qualifying 1st record holder is "not that great". The guy who out-performed Alonso as a rookie "isn't that great".

It's boring hearing this all the time. Schumacher was more arrogant, less sporting, more boring and drove equally dominant cars yet some people don't like Hamilton but love Schumacher. I wonder what the difference is...?
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04/12/2020 16:29:20 3 0
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One practice session at an uncharacteristic track doesn't prove anything. Try again.
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04/12/2020 17:01:55 2 0
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No it doesn’t prove that at all
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04/12/2020 17:50:01 1 1
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It does none of the sort re:2007 Alonso, but ok. Also, how did Hamilton qualify this season in the wet 2 seconds quicker than anyone, answers on a tear stained post card.
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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Hex
04/12/2020 16:03:09 23 5
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Tell that to Bottas.
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04/12/2020 16:07:41 3 4
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That just proves it more, I have nothing against Lewis he seems like a decent bloke but he does drive by far the fastest car with a second rate teammate following along behind. even Wolff called botas his wingman
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04/12/2020 16:03:10 62 2
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Brilliant, can't wait for the race.
Just as I predicted, the Hamilton haters and closet racists are desperate for George to do well so they can use that to make the false case that Lewis is not good.

I predicted it and you will now see that message being pushed out by the pundits, media and trolls all working together.
Removed
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04/12/2020 16:03:30 127 17
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Proof, if any more were needed, that Bottas really should not be driving that 2nd Mercedes
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04/12/2020 16:18:57 109 46
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Reason why Bottas is in the second car is all to see.He's no threat to Hamilton,he's not disruptive but he's competent enough to collect good points in a dominant car. Put a hungry driver in it and they'd challenge Hamilton and that's not what Mercedes want
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04/12/2020 16:21:50 13 1
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It's not proof yet. Bottas has had P1 Fridays before and failed to back them up in the race. Sunday is when the points are handed out, but it's a promising start at Mercedes for Russell.
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04/12/2020 16:36:20 2 1
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It is only first practise of course, but yes, doesn't look for the world's most expensive roadblock.

That said, being a mere 10 or so points away from Verstappen when he's driving a car that is often over a second a lap slower than the Mercedes and has had more reliability issues this season should have condemned Bottas a long time ago. It does at least prove why he's in his seat!
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04/12/2020 16:39:11 10 1
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Really can't say that based on one P1. But if Russell was to out-perform him in qualifying and especially in the race, it would not look good on Bottas.
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04/12/2020 16:51:30 7 5
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More that it's proof of an engineering competition above all else?
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05/12/2020 12:34:40 0 0
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Hired as Hamilton's support driver and rear gunner, currently 2nd in championship with Hamilton 1st and the constructor's won, just like 2019. I'd say that makes him pretty much perfect?
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:04:20 9 5
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not at all there are many examples of hamiltons car underperforming at the track yet him still taking the win,
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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tv1
04/12/2020 16:05:02 4 0
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i agree, same for Bottas, trying to match the pace and then making mistakes.
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
bbc
It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:05:03 4 0
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Really? Straight in with that old chestnut? Maybe Russel is a good driver as he’s thought to be and respected as such?
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04/12/2020 16:05:05 21 32
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And people say that Hamilton is the greatest of all time. No, he just has the fastest car.
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04/12/2020 16:08:20 16 4
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No, people who don’t understand what they are seeing believe it’s just about the car. Toto disagrees and he know what he’s talking about.
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04/12/2020 16:11:47 2 1
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Lol, one first practice session counts for more than 10 entire F1 seasons all of a sudden....stick to the footy hey?
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04/12/2020 16:38:44 1 3
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Which driver's input has developed and refined the car into the world beater it is. Maybe most drivers could drive it fast but that's very different from making it fast. MB with Schumacher and Rosberg were nowhere, they didn't win anything until Hamilton arrived and developed it.
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:05:07 6 2
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Well, apart from the fact that it doesn't, it's a nice theory.
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04/12/2020 16:05:23 71 0
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this will put pressure on Bottas
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:05:29 8 4
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I think it proves more about Bottas being a bit average rather than diminishing Hamilton's achievements.
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04/12/2020 16:05:38 137 39
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The Hamilton haters will predictably say that this proves he’s mediocre, despite proving his quality year after year since 2007.

George is a supremely gifted talent in his own right, dominating the junior categories and dragging that Williams further up the grid than it should be. It’s no surprise he looks very quick in the merc!

Let’s also remember that this is just FP1 though
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04/12/2020 16:10:00 50 7
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Who is saying he is mediocre!? He is obviously an immense talent. I do remember that a certain German got the same "it's all about the car" treatment though.
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04/12/2020 16:10:23 9 8
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What qualities did he show 2009-2013 when he didn't win a title?
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04/12/2020 16:10:43 1 1
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Also it's a very short track with few corners.
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04/12/2020 16:12:02 4 12
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What about 2010,21011,2012,2013,2016? Oh dear his car was not quite fast enough in those years.
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04/12/2020 16:18:23 3 2
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Agreed. Lewis judged on delta to team mates and consistency over career. Bottas is a great driver...they all are...that’s why in F1. Russell is a great driver who outperforms team mates and won F2. Expect Russell to be the match of Bottas if he gets on well with car over whole weekend. He may beat him but there are many factors. Sakhir layout suits the Merc...no doubt.
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04/12/2020 16:30:03 3 2
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Obviously he's not mediocre you'd have to be an idiot to think that but unless bottas convincingly beats Russel this weekend it will just show how little competition Hamilton has had this year to win the title.
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04/12/2020 16:43:33 1 0
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Russell's race has nothing to do with Hamilton and I don't think anyone will argue otherwise. Hamilton's achievements are built over years, not days.

But it will speak volumes about Bottas, the living ballast, if he gets beaten by someone who has only driven the car once or twice in 2 years. Given the Mercedes' pace advantage, he basically HAS to win this race to retain a shred of credibility.
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04/12/2020 17:14:31 0 0
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....or not. Haters may/will also say that it’s the car that is the real talent and that anyone who drives it will be an F1 superhero.
Let’s reserve judgement until after the weekend but I suggest he will finish in the top 3.
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04/12/2020 17:18:02 2 7
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And the proof is in the pudding, put me in that car and I would finish no lower than third, car racing fans just don’t want to admit what every person with a brain knows....ITS ALL ABOUT THE CAR.
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04/12/2020 17:25:51 1 0
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It's a Practice session, you tend to get some strange results during P1, P2 and less so P3 whilst the cars are being tuned for the track. I'd wait until Qualy for some representative pace.
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05/12/2020 12:26:31 0 0
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No, It wouldnt prove he is mediocre at all, its quite clear to anyone with eyes that Lewis is most definately a top tier driver.
It would just go some way to proving that there are other drivers out there who are on the same level... and that the car is due a far higher percentage of it than some previously thought.
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JS
04/12/2020 16:05:39 14 15
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I think secretly Hamilton must be thinking Russell doesn't do too well, otherwise diminishes Hamilton's influence relative to the Mercedes car.
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04/12/2020 16:08:05 9 5
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Anyone with any sense knows LH is very good - and they know only a Mercedes driver could have won in the last 7 years.
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04/12/2020 16:08:56 8 0
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I think all it means is that Russell should be in the car alongside Hamilton instead of Bottas. Then we can really see whats what.
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04/12/2020 16:30:37 0 0
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Or it shows that Russell is very good as well. I know where my money is.
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04/12/2020 16:33:54 0 0
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I think Bottas will be thinking that the most
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04/12/2020 16:05:52 19 27
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Hamilton will be hoping Russell is a total failure. The better he does the clearer it will be it is really all about the car.
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04/12/2020 16:08:52 3 0
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HMQ could Knight the car or its technicians then.
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Moz
04/12/2020 16:09:12 3 0
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Orrrrrr......GR is as on the same talent plateau. VB will be the worried one.
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04/12/2020 16:10:15 3 0
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No, LH and the people in F1 know better.
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04/12/2020 16:10:23 3 1
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The car that Hamilton has helped deveoped through consistently delivering at the top level?
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04/12/2020 16:10:33 2 0
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Can't really argue with that, except for the fact Russell is considered a protege, much like Hamilton was

And by the way, where's Bottas? Probably about 15 positions higher than the position YOU'D be, in Mercedes...
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:06:35 15 2
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Isn't it bizarre how the best teams, with the best cars seem to attract the best drivers ...

Cannot, for one moment, think why that might happen, can you?
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04/12/2020 16:10:42 0 1
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That’s Michael Schumacher’s teams then?
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04/12/2020 16:16:56 2 1
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He's a kid, any team would attract him. The kid in the slower car is probably just as good as him, but no one will say it because he will finish at the back of the race not the front.
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me
04/12/2020 16:06:56 12 19
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Ya grannie could drive it
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:06:58 11 2
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Top of first practice proves nothing.
Consistent delivery of points when things are not going well are the measure of a driver and the mark of Hamilton who can finish a race on three wheels.
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Hex
04/12/2020 16:03:09 23 5
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Tell that to Bottas.
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04/12/2020 16:07:41 3 4
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That just proves it more, I have nothing against Lewis he seems like a decent bloke but he does drive by far the fastest car with a second rate teammate following along behind. even Wolff called botas his wingman
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Hex
04/12/2020 20:08:08 0 0
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So it's not the car then it's the driver? Make your mind up!
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04/12/2020 16:07:43 18 27
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If a rookie goes on to win the race in the Mercedes then it just proves that it's all about the car and not the driver.
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04/12/2020 16:09:22 11 4
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Sigh. No. $25 million dollars a year paid out by people who know what they are doing says you are wrong,
.
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04/12/2020 16:09:31 1 0
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Just like it was in Turkey for example......Doh.
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04/12/2020 16:12:05 0 0
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Especially as he can barely fit in the thing!
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04/12/2020 16:32:06 2 0
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Except Russell isn't a rookie and he's very highly regarded by those that matter.
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04/12/2020 16:37:27 1 1
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Which driver's input has developed and refined the car into the world beater it is. Maybe most drivers could drive it fast but that's very different from making it fast. MB with Schumacher and Rosberg were nowhere, they didn't win anything until Hamilton arrived and developed it.
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JS
04/12/2020 16:05:39 14 15
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I think secretly Hamilton must be thinking Russell doesn't do too well, otherwise diminishes Hamilton's influence relative to the Mercedes car.
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04/12/2020 16:08:05 9 5
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Anyone with any sense knows LH is very good - and they know only a Mercedes driver could have won in the last 7 years.
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04/12/2020 16:31:20 0 1
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Hmm. Ferrari should probably have won the WDC in 2017 and 2018.
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04/12/2020 16:05:05 21 32
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And people say that Hamilton is the greatest of all time. No, he just has the fastest car.
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04/12/2020 16:08:20 16 4
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No, people who don’t understand what they are seeing believe it’s just about the car. Toto disagrees and he know what he’s talking about.
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04/12/2020 16:08:23 279 5
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How badly do you want Russell to win this weekend!?
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04/12/2020 16:16:59 52 12
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Very much so. Almost as much as I want Bottas to come second!
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04/12/2020 16:29:17 7 5
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just hope there is no safety car restart on sunday - thats an expensive merc for GR to be slamming the wall while weaving to keep tyres warm !!!
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04/12/2020 16:44:32 9 3
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Look at all you complete and utter hypocrites who no longer are saying its all down to the car and are now declaring Russel the best thing since sliced bread.

What happened to the statements you were all making saying your gran could win in that car?
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04/12/2020 16:55:14 13 0
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Nothing I'd like to see happen more than a Russell win! He's been punching well above his weight in a Williams car. Always great to see British talent on the grid. You never know, he may even get his own army of trolls if he beats Bottas!
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04/12/2020 16:56:57 0 1
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Looking ahead, with no crystal ball of course, Petronas will need a podium hawker in 2022...if..... LH nails No 8 then calls time. Mind you, it's a backstabbing business, and Toto if he remains in the team, could ditch Bottas in 2021 and install GR.
OK, GR is ablaze today and despite how Qually works out, see what Sunday brings. GR for podium if MadMax behaves and does not take GR out
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04/12/2020 17:48:48 1 1
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If he does good for him but not for the reason some want him to win because they are desperate to slate LH
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05/12/2020 11:55:13 0 0
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As much as i would like it. I would prefer to see Norris win. He's earned his points this season and i personally think he's a better racer than Russell
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04/12/2020 16:08:39 8 2
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A Formula One track with only 'four real corners'....pfff

What's next? Ovals?
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04/12/2020 16:28:23 0 0
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I’m just grateful to have the races myself
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04/12/2020 16:05:52 19 27
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Hamilton will be hoping Russell is a total failure. The better he does the clearer it will be it is really all about the car.
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04/12/2020 16:08:52 3 0
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HMQ could Knight the car or its technicians then.
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04/12/2020 17:27:11 1 0
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Perhaps - if you believe Hamilton should be knighted-more fitting would the car being voted BBC Sports Personality of the year
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JS
04/12/2020 16:05:39 14 15
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I think secretly Hamilton must be thinking Russell doesn't do too well, otherwise diminishes Hamilton's influence relative to the Mercedes car.
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04/12/2020 16:08:56 8 0
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I think all it means is that Russell should be in the car alongside Hamilton instead of Bottas. Then we can really see whats what.
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Jim
04/12/2020 16:09:05 53 1
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Bottas must be worried for his future. If Russell beats him in the race, then he will be seriously worried!

And being in a tail end car all year means that Russell will be used to operating in the pack than some of the drivers in the top cars - which could be useful when driving a fast car on a very short track (= lots of backmarkers, potentially lapping multiple times)

Cant wait!
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04/12/2020 16:19:38 8 53
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Russell has zero F1 experience of overtaking back markers im afraid, and is more often than not used to watching others overtake him and pull away due to his qualifying the car higher than it deserves
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04/12/2020 16:33:24 7 1
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if GRussell beats VBottas in the race - I'm pretty sure GR will be driving a Merc in 2021 !!
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04/12/2020 16:39:12 4 1
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If Russell actually beats him in the race, then Bottas' career is effectively over.

He has a contract with Mercedes for next year, but it confirms once for all he's a joke and as a salary driver, a sluggish one at that, no-one will be interested in him. Especially with Hulkenberg and Perez sniffing around for 2022 seats.
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04/12/2020 16:05:52 19 27
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Hamilton will be hoping Russell is a total failure. The better he does the clearer it will be it is really all about the car.
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Moz
04/12/2020 16:09:12 3 0
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Orrrrrr......GR is as on the same talent plateau. VB will be the worried one.
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04/12/2020 16:07:43 18 27
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If a rookie goes on to win the race in the Mercedes then it just proves that it's all about the car and not the driver.
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04/12/2020 16:09:22 11 4
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Sigh. No. $25 million dollars a year paid out by people who know what they are doing says you are wrong,
.
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04/12/2020 16:09:24 11 26
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All You Hamilton fanboys

It definitely is the car
Roscoe could win in that Merc
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04/12/2020 16:17:03 6 2
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Rosberg only managed 1 championship in competition with Hamilton. I think it is the best car but Hamilton gets more out of it than Bottas. Let's see how the race goes.
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04/12/2020 16:29:44 1 0
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Roscoe maybe. You? No chance, I doubt you'd fit in it. And if you could, just getting the wheels moving would give you neck ache for a week.
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04/12/2020 16:34:46 1 1
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Which driver's input has developed and refined the car into the world beater it is. Maybe most drivers could drive it fast but that's very different from making it fast. MB with Schumacher and Rosberg were nowhere, they didn't win anything until Hamilton arrived and developed it.
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04/12/2020 18:14:22 0 0
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You're right, most of the current F1 drivers could win in that car, but the big difference is consistency, LH doesn't just win no and again, he does it consistently, Bottas wins now and again, but week in week out, year after year is a different story.
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04/12/2020 16:09:24 6 1
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It proves nothing ...........YET!
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:09:31 6 0
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Really? After one practice session that he wasn't even taking part in you think this proves that he isn't that great? I know we're all entitled to our opinions but come on, this isn't even a remotely sensible point of view. What it does prove is that Russle is perfectly capable of jumping into a fast car and being able to drive it quickly.
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04/12/2020 16:07:43 18 27
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If a rookie goes on to win the race in the Mercedes then it just proves that it's all about the car and not the driver.
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04/12/2020 16:09:31 1 0
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Just like it was in Turkey for example......Doh.
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:09:59 2 3
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It is more than a touch above. It is 7 years or so of uncompetitive domination that only ensured a Merc driver could win. Not their fault they dominated but quite a few drivers would have won 5 or 6 titles in that car.
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04/12/2020 16:05:38 137 39
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The Hamilton haters will predictably say that this proves he’s mediocre, despite proving his quality year after year since 2007.

George is a supremely gifted talent in his own right, dominating the junior categories and dragging that Williams further up the grid than it should be. It’s no surprise he looks very quick in the merc!

Let’s also remember that this is just FP1 though
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04/12/2020 16:10:00 50 7
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Who is saying he is mediocre!? He is obviously an immense talent. I do remember that a certain German got the same "it's all about the car" treatment though.
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04/12/2020 16:20:49 3 5
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Nah that's not true. For that certain German it was partially his skill (which was good, but not great), partially the car (which was phenomenal) and partially the fact his own teammate wasn't allowed to beat him. Remember the race where Webber qualified on pole, so Red Bull ripped up parts of his car to put onto Vettel's?
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04/12/2020 16:37:59 2 0
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That was okay, because he is a German ......
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04/12/2020 16:51:20 5 3
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Hamilton didn't cheat to get his wins though....
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04/12/2020 17:06:10 2 3
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Is that the Vet German or the Sch German? The Sch German of course won the WDC twice in an inferior car, which is something which hasn't been done recently by either Vet or Ham.
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04/12/2020 16:10:01 29 1
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hmm hold your horses, the race is a different kettle of fish. ;)
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04/12/2020 16:53:09 4 2
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Need to rain hard for fish to appear.
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:10:10 5 0
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Wrongthink. Look at what Russell has been doing in the Williams, arguably one of the worst cars on the grid 9 times in Q2 and often just getting pipped on points. Now translate that to a Merc. That is why Russell is contracted to Merc.
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04/12/2020 16:05:52 19 27
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Hamilton will be hoping Russell is a total failure. The better he does the clearer it will be it is really all about the car.
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04/12/2020 16:10:15 3 0
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No, LH and the people in F1 know better.
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04/12/2020 16:10:16 22 19
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Almost everyone on the grid could do the same thing in that Mercedes. The difference between Hamilton and the rest though is his decision making, consistency and his raw talent at overtaking. Something the rest lack.

Of course this has taken Hamilton a long time to perfect as we saw some silly decision making early on in his career. Also shows Bottas for what he is, support to a better driver.
Mate, George Russell is one of the outstanding talents if not THE outstanding talent (Verstappen aside) of a very talented generation. He's not 'anyone'. Watch some racing why don't you. Removed
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04/12/2020 16:54:13 1 1
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Love it. He says everyone could do what Hamilton does, then immediately contradicts himself with the list of what Hamilton does better. Hahahahahahahah....
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04/12/2020 16:05:38 137 39
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The Hamilton haters will predictably say that this proves he’s mediocre, despite proving his quality year after year since 2007.

George is a supremely gifted talent in his own right, dominating the junior categories and dragging that Williams further up the grid than it should be. It’s no surprise he looks very quick in the merc!

Let’s also remember that this is just FP1 though
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04/12/2020 16:10:23 9 8
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What qualities did he show 2009-2013 when he didn't win a title?
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04/12/2020 16:22:33 13 2
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He still managed to win a race each season despite being in a poor car
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04/12/2020 16:05:52 19 27
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Hamilton will be hoping Russell is a total failure. The better he does the clearer it will be it is really all about the car.
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04/12/2020 16:10:23 3 1
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The car that Hamilton has helped deveoped through consistently delivering at the top level?
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04/12/2020 16:05:52 19 27
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Hamilton will be hoping Russell is a total failure. The better he does the clearer it will be it is really all about the car.
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04/12/2020 16:10:33 2 0
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Can't really argue with that, except for the fact Russell is considered a protege, much like Hamilton was

And by the way, where's Bottas? Probably about 15 positions higher than the position YOU'D be, in Mercedes...
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04/12/2020 16:06:35 15 2
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Isn't it bizarre how the best teams, with the best cars seem to attract the best drivers ...

Cannot, for one moment, think why that might happen, can you?
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04/12/2020 16:10:42 0 1
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That’s Michael Schumacher’s teams then?
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04/12/2020 16:05:38 137 39
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The Hamilton haters will predictably say that this proves he’s mediocre, despite proving his quality year after year since 2007.

George is a supremely gifted talent in his own right, dominating the junior categories and dragging that Williams further up the grid than it should be. It’s no surprise he looks very quick in the merc!

Let’s also remember that this is just FP1 though
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04/12/2020 16:10:43 1 1
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Also it's a very short track with few corners.
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04/12/2020 16:10:52 13 4
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Fantastic, look forward to him racing.
Practise and even qualifying is very different to a live race.
1. 70 + laps, not 1 in practice or qualifying defines a race.
2. No race management needed, therefore he can go full throttle, not worry about tires or condition of car.
3. Race track with 20 + others vs one or 2 on an open track.
So all the Hamilton haters, please.... there is no comparison
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Jez
04/12/2020 16:21:19 14 3
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Tire - to grow weary
Tyre - rubber part of a wheel
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04/12/2020 16:11:08 7 26
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Hamilton is a fraud. "o00oo0o0oo0o0oo0 i'm such a nice guy, thanks to my terrific team, i couldn't have done it without you guys "
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ZG
04/12/2020 16:15:13 12 1
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Haven't you got homework to do?
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04/12/2020 18:16:55 0 0
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Not a fraud, just very appreciative of the people behind him, it's called gratitude, maybe an alien concept to you?
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:11:14 2 0
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Steady. It's FP1. If he is in the same spot come Sunday afternoon you'll maybe have a bit of a point. Only a bit.
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BB
04/12/2020 16:11:14 8 0
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Or he's a very talented rookie
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04/12/2020 16:33:35 4 0
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He's not a rookie.
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04/12/2020 16:11:17 23 17
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The only thing this proves is how little the people who say it’s all about the car know about F1.
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04/12/2020 16:59:18 9 1
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??? err kind of proves the opposite
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04/12/2020 17:05:02 1 0
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People all over the world have been waiting to see what happens if, a back marker drives a title winning car. We're seeing it. What argument can you say, to a casual F1 viewer if, GR wins or beats Bottas?
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04/12/2020 16:11:45 209 79
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People really are desperate for any reason to diminish Hamilton. In Germany they idolised Schumacher even though he was a cheat. We have one of the top drivers in history yet some people just want to find a reason to hate. Really sad British trait.
In Germany they Idolised Hitler too. I'm sure he was a wrong un' as well. Sometimes people in Britain can see passed the success and look a bit deeper. Removed
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04/12/2020 16:33:35 13 65
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Schumacher last of the greats in my opinion and certainly no cheat
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04/12/2020 16:42:03 9 1
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I think it's a wire trip of a rather admirable British trait, which is we always root the underdog and we don't like seeing anything dominant for the sake of "sport". Rugby has the same problem where Saracens consistently churn out world class England players, but everyone cheers the rules that penalises clubs who create dominant, next gen, England stars. I guess that's why the 3 Lions are so dog.
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04/12/2020 16:45:34 13 1
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Mansell was idolised, as were Jim Clark, Graham Hill, Stirling Moss, Jackie Stewart, James Hunt and John Surtees to name but a few, even Damon Hill was. It’s not a British trait. Crucially most of them also had their detractors, some a lot more than others. Sadly these days people are so polarised that they believe some are above criticism, which should never be true.
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04/12/2020 16:51:41 7 9
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It is the face of closet racism and it reveals how ready these closet racists are to lie about their prejudices and pretend the only problem they had was a Merc winning all the time.
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04/12/2020 16:56:19 1 4
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Zzzzzz Schumacher deniers are worse than Hamilton haters both greats in their own way. It really is pathetic.
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04/12/2020 17:27:05 1 6
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A British trait related to racism and the resurgence of white nationalism in the country. Brexit and the general rise of authoritarian populist nationalism where white male Britain only has authenticity, legitimacy , supremacy. H could win the Nobel Prize, Knighthood, and 150 Grand Prix and still be a villain in many British minds. It's not British ideas of success but British ideas on race.
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04/12/2020 17:48:25 1 1
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Totally agree, I really do struggle to understand it. Verstappen is loved and he is far more of a (insert own description) than Hamilton.
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04/12/2020 18:04:17 3 4
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Not much has changed, 100 years ago a black man would be lynched if he was caught sitting on top a horse, he was only allowed to clean and shovel out the horse's crap, fast forward to present day and the veins on the Haters foreheads are popping at sight of seeing Lewis Hamilton driving a F1 car and WINNING Races. I hate to think what will happen the day they have more than one Black F1 driver lol
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04/12/2020 18:53:28 2 2
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I supported Hamilton through out his career until this year, despite his deficiencies in his character. He's become a woke hypocrite with racist tendencies, Schumacher was a cheat, but never a hypocrite and always loyal to his country....
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04/12/2020 19:02:52 1 0
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It's not hate. Russell moving from the back of grid to front reinforces the argument that it really does depend on which car you drive. Hamilton's true genius was moving to Mercedes - if he'd stayed at McLaren he'd probably be a 1 time WC
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05/12/2020 12:20:08 0 0
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I guess it depends on what your opinion of Hamilton is in the first place. If you think its Hamilton>Car then a last minute replacement for him came in and in the event he beats Bottas, that would really speak the truth for itself and would be hard to ignore.
I doubt Russell will though... its truly a mammoth task to achieve something like that at such short notice. We can all dream though.
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04/12/2020 16:11:46 34 13
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Probably all down to weight. Lewis is shorter than Russell, but Russell has fewer earrings.
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04/12/2020 16:23:14 8 5
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I'm a lewis fan but this comment did make me chuckle :) nice one :)
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04/12/2020 16:05:05 21 32
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And people say that Hamilton is the greatest of all time. No, he just has the fastest car.
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04/12/2020 16:11:47 2 1
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Lol, one first practice session counts for more than 10 entire F1 seasons all of a sudden....stick to the footy hey?
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04/12/2020 16:11:47 7 14
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Ultimately this debate of car vs driver can only be settled by separating the two. The drivers need to be rotated through each car during the season with the ride they are designated on determined by weekly draw on the Thursday. There can then be a true relegation / promotion process for new drivers a la football.
Driver compensation will then be determined solely by performance
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04/12/2020 16:15:53 7 3
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"A la football"

Football's equivalent would be to do a random draw before each match to find out who is playing for each team. Yeah, sounds a bit silly doesn't it?
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04/12/2020 16:24:03 0 2
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Epic idea!! Only issue I can see is who, ultimately pays the driver(s)? A central pool contributed to by all teams? But at what ratio?
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04/12/2020 17:30:47 0 0
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Really only work with a one make car series. I get your point though.
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04/12/2020 16:11:56 16 14
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This tells you all you need to know about Bottas, and how a non-competitive team-mate in what has been the only competitive car on the grid for a few seasons now has led to Lewis getting a few championships handed to him on a plate.
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04/12/2020 16:32:02 0 0
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Bottas has Georges seat, George he is at Williams getting his experience.
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04/12/2020 16:11:56 38 1
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George Russell fastest in first practice, he has ticked that box, let us hope such form continues during race weekend.

Perhaps Hamiltons bad luck re covid could offer opportunity for Russells star to shine bright this weekend

It is early doors, but he performed best in that session so Mr Russell good on you Sir, keep up the good work.
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04/12/2020 16:05:38 137 39
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The Hamilton haters will predictably say that this proves he’s mediocre, despite proving his quality year after year since 2007.

George is a supremely gifted talent in his own right, dominating the junior categories and dragging that Williams further up the grid than it should be. It’s no surprise he looks very quick in the merc!

Let’s also remember that this is just FP1 though
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04/12/2020 16:12:02 4 12
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What about 2010,21011,2012,2013,2016? Oh dear his car was not quite fast enough in those years.
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04/12/2020 16:39:05 7 3
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And a certain Mr Button taught him how to drive corners and look after tyres.
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04/12/2020 16:07:43 18 27
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If a rookie goes on to win the race in the Mercedes then it just proves that it's all about the car and not the driver.
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04/12/2020 16:12:05 0 0
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Especially as he can barely fit in the thing!
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:12:21 5 0
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It proves absolutely nothing.

Diddly-squat.
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04/12/2020 16:13:20 10 11
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Do over a race by managing tyres, do in the wet, do it over a season, do it on three wheels, do it over seven season s, then we’ll talk.
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ZG
04/12/2020 16:13:28 31 0
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Well done George! There would be something poetic about him going from zero points to 26 in one race but I'm not putting any money on it. This is after all FP1; No points until Sunday..
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04/12/2020 16:13:55 2 2
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I always thought he had potential, some new talent coming up the ranks for next year also.....Schumacher Jr
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04/12/2020 16:14:34 44 9
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This is why all of the ‘greatest ever’ comments and arguments are entirely hypothetical. 1992 Williams FW14B, seen as an utterly dominant car as the Mercedes is now and for other seasons. Mansell’s car failed 5 times in one season in 92 - Hamilton’s has finished 38 races straight. Reliability, more feedback, easier to drive, that’s not to say Hamilton would not be successful in another era though
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04/12/2020 16:30:25 20 19
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So who do you think help the team build a winning car? do you not think the drivers have anything to do with it?
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MSL
04/12/2020 16:30:54 11 1
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A sensible comment at last....??
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04/12/2020 16:32:21 3 5
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Despite the negative press in the UK about Schumacher one of the reasons I rate him as the greatest in the last 30 years is his ability to make F1 interesting when he was racing against the dominant McLaren and Williams! Despite losing a few titles to them he gave it a bloody good shot and pushed them all the way. Once he and a few others turned Ferrari into ‘the car’ it was inevitable....
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04/12/2020 16:14:57 10 6
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ITS ONLY FIRST PRACTISE!!
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04/12/2020 17:08:19 1 0
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*Practice
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04/12/2020 16:11:08 7 26
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Hamilton is a fraud. "o00oo0o0oo0o0oo0 i'm such a nice guy, thanks to my terrific team, i couldn't have done it without you guys "
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ZG
04/12/2020 16:15:13 12 1
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Haven't you got homework to do?
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04/12/2020 16:15:29 2 1
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if there ever was a track where car matter the most this is it. But very happy to see Russell doing the job. Let's hope it's the same when he is racing.
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04/12/2020 16:11:47 7 14
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Ultimately this debate of car vs driver can only be settled by separating the two. The drivers need to be rotated through each car during the season with the ride they are designated on determined by weekly draw on the Thursday. There can then be a true relegation / promotion process for new drivers a la football.
Driver compensation will then be determined solely by performance
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04/12/2020 16:15:53 7 3
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"A la football"

Football's equivalent would be to do a random draw before each match to find out who is playing for each team. Yeah, sounds a bit silly doesn't it?
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
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It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:16:18 4 1
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I knew it would that happen. Rather than the possibility that Russell is actually highly talented we are back to someone saying it is all about the car. I hope GR does well but it is, after all only 1st Practice. LH is now the complete package. MV often puts in his fastest laps after a pit stops LH eases them in and 'cures' the tyres before 'going for it' hence MV needed a extra stop LH didn't
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04/12/2020 16:06:35 15 2
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Isn't it bizarre how the best teams, with the best cars seem to attract the best drivers ...

Cannot, for one moment, think why that might happen, can you?
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04/12/2020 16:16:56 2 1
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He's a kid, any team would attract him. The kid in the slower car is probably just as good as him, but no one will say it because he will finish at the back of the race not the front.
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04/12/2020 16:08:23 279 5
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How badly do you want Russell to win this weekend!?
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04/12/2020 16:16:59 52 12
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Very much so. Almost as much as I want Bottas to come second!
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04/12/2020 16:17:01 29 3
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Opportunity of a lifetime for Russell. Mercedes can't be overly impressed with Bottas, and i'm not certain Lewis will be back in 2021 (although it's unlikely he would allow himself to retire whilst self-isolating). George can really put himself in the shop window with a strong drive this week and possibly next.
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04/12/2020 16:51:21 13 1
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I can't imagine Lewis not going for the eighth title so I would be amazed if he's not back next season.
As for Russell, if he doesn't get carried away and finishes well it can only help him get the Mercedes drive in 2022.
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04/12/2020 16:09:24 11 26
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All You Hamilton fanboys

It definitely is the car
Roscoe could win in that Merc
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04/12/2020 16:17:03 6 2
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Rosberg only managed 1 championship in competition with Hamilton. I think it is the best car but Hamilton gets more out of it than Bottas. Let's see how the race goes.
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04/12/2020 16:22:13 1 0
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To be fair Rosberg wasn't all that it either
Would he have got it to F1 if it wasn't for who he was?
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04/12/2020 16:17:36 22 22
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I see the Hamilton lovers are out in force yet again defending him when some who hasn't driven the same car provides the same top place. Hamilton is not special the car he drives is, separate the two and you will see just another driver.
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04/12/2020 16:24:17 7 2
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"He only won because of the faster car". It's a really boring and predictable argument, no creativity. It's also foolish, if the driver that ultimately wins gets vilified because of the machinery, then what's the point in the sport? The driver and car are symbiotic.
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04/12/2020 16:28:11 0 0
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Why is Bottas 4th then?
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04/12/2020 16:29:00 0 1
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Hamiltion is not special...hahaha hahahaha hahahahahahha hahahahahha hahahahahahah hahahahaha hahahahaha ...Joker
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04/12/2020 16:30:09 0 0
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Another Hamilton hater eh Brian ? Very unfair comment in my opinion !
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04/12/2020 16:34:03 0 1
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That being the case, what about all the races he won when he wasn't in a 'special' car? Do they still count?
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04/12/2020 16:37:18 1 1
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Spot on Sir. Hamilton’s PR lead, hype bubble, is about to be burst....IN A HUGE WAY! :)
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04/12/2020 16:17:53 16 2
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Bottas and Russell are in the same car but one's driving it faster so far.
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04/12/2020 16:27:02 12 1
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thankyou for such a deep analysis of the timesheets
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04/12/2020 16:56:07 1 0
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With incisive comments such as this, I fear Andrew Benson is already out of a job.....
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04/12/2020 16:05:38 137 39
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The Hamilton haters will predictably say that this proves he’s mediocre, despite proving his quality year after year since 2007.

George is a supremely gifted talent in his own right, dominating the junior categories and dragging that Williams further up the grid than it should be. It’s no surprise he looks very quick in the merc!

Let’s also remember that this is just FP1 though
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04/12/2020 16:18:23 3 2
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Agreed. Lewis judged on delta to team mates and consistency over career. Bottas is a great driver...they all are...that’s why in F1. Russell is a great driver who outperforms team mates and won F2. Expect Russell to be the match of Bottas if he gets on well with car over whole weekend. He may beat him but there are many factors. Sakhir layout suits the Merc...no doubt.
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04/12/2020 16:03:30 127 17
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Proof, if any more were needed, that Bottas really should not be driving that 2nd Mercedes
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04/12/2020 16:18:57 109 46
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Reason why Bottas is in the second car is all to see.He's no threat to Hamilton,he's not disruptive but he's competent enough to collect good points in a dominant car. Put a hungry driver in it and they'd challenge Hamilton and that's not what Mercedes want
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04/12/2020 16:47:44 2 0
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I'm pretty sure Mercedes were keen to put GR in the car next year, and they might still with Williams under new ownership and maybe looking for a pay driver. Even if not, you can guarantee he'll be in it in 2022.
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04/12/2020 16:58:16 0 1
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I think Mercedes do want that - but unfortunately Mercedes cannot control when other drivers for other teams sign contracts.
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04/12/2020 16:58:58 9 4
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What a load of drivel.
Who would you want as a 'hungry driver'? Mercedes offered the seat to Verstappen - no objections from LH - but Verstappen prefers to Claim he would beat LH in the same car, rather than try to prove it. So he said no
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04/12/2020 17:19:04 2 0
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That's simply not true, Bottas inherited the Merc seat when the competitive Rosberg suddenly quit and Merc weren't left with many experienced driver options.
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04/12/2020 17:51:31 0 0
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What a load of Toss.
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04/12/2020 20:55:38 0 0
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But at Williams everyone saw him as the next upcoming driver. He just hasn’t resorted to rosberg tactics yet.
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04/12/2020 16:19:24 9 15
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Interesting that Lewis Hamilton has never done ROC...... too scared he'll be shown up?
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04/12/2020 16:27:58 0 2
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Stop talking rubbish, your eyes deceive you. You seem to have forgotten the previous 2 races..
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04/12/2020 16:36:54 0 0
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Yeah he's been shown up no end throughout his career, I'm sure he's terrified.
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Jim
04/12/2020 16:09:05 53 1
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Bottas must be worried for his future. If Russell beats him in the race, then he will be seriously worried!

And being in a tail end car all year means that Russell will be used to operating in the pack than some of the drivers in the top cars - which could be useful when driving a fast car on a very short track (= lots of backmarkers, potentially lapping multiple times)

Cant wait!
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04/12/2020 16:19:38 8 53
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Russell has zero F1 experience of overtaking back markers im afraid, and is more often than not used to watching others overtake him and pull away due to his qualifying the car higher than it deserves
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04/12/2020 16:19:44 8 0
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Its early days but I kinda thought this might happen. Go George!
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04/12/2020 16:19:45 17 10
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Reason why Bottas is in the second car is all to see.He's no threat to Hamilton,he's not disruptive but he's competent enough to collect good points in a dominant car. Put a hungry driver in it and they'd challenge Hamilton and that's not what Mercedes want
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04/12/2020 17:06:08 6 1
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Great insight.... so where was the queue of hungry drivers when Mercedes were desperate to fill Rosberg's empty seat? Why did it take Mercedes 3-4 months to find a replacement?
2017 and 2019 - Mercedes tried signing Verstappen (Max said "no")
2019 - Mercedes inquired after Russell (Williams said "no")

2020 - Mercedes even offered Max a test when he suggested a private race against Lewis.
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04/12/2020 16:01:09 29 58
bbc
It does prove that Hamilton is not that great, rather Mercedes being a touch above the other cars.
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04/12/2020 16:20:11 7 0
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7-time world champion, race wins record holder and qualifying 1st record holder is "not that great". The guy who out-performed Alonso as a rookie "isn't that great".

It's boring hearing this all the time. Schumacher was more arrogant, less sporting, more boring and drove equally dominant cars yet some people don't like Hamilton but love Schumacher. I wonder what the difference is...?
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04/12/2020 16:20:20 20 0
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Great opportunity for George, great confidence builder, fingers crossed for weekend for a podium! We are rooting for you George!
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04/12/2020 16:20:42 4 17
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Another rich boy. Period.
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04/12/2020 16:23:08 13 1
bbc
Another bitter person. Fact.
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04/12/2020 16:27:00 2 0
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Don't be stupid, Russell has been champion in all of his feeder series, often in the first year.
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ZG
04/12/2020 16:28:08 0 0
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You do know that a period is the full stop you put after the word "boy", don't you? Arguably, you just typed "Another rich boy [ellipsis]".
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04/12/2020 16:31:01 1 0
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Why does it matter if he's from a family with money? Its about racing. If he couldn't race then he wouldn't be in this position, money or no money, makes no differnce.
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04/12/2020 16:10:00 50 7
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Who is saying he is mediocre!? He is obviously an immense talent. I do remember that a certain German got the same "it's all about the car" treatment though.
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04/12/2020 16:20:49 3 5
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Nah that's not true. For that certain German it was partially his skill (which was good, but not great), partially the car (which was phenomenal) and partially the fact his own teammate wasn't allowed to beat him. Remember the race where Webber qualified on pole, so Red Bull ripped up parts of his car to put onto Vettel's?
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04/12/2020 17:08:21 0 0
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Its not such an unusual set of events that a team mate is a wing man !! That's why Merc brought Bottas in. They figured he would pick up enough points to win them the WCC but not upset the number one driver.
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04/12/2020 16:10:52 13 4
bbc
Fantastic, look forward to him racing.
Practise and even qualifying is very different to a live race.
1. 70 + laps, not 1 in practice or qualifying defines a race.
2. No race management needed, therefore he can go full throttle, not worry about tires or condition of car.
3. Race track with 20 + others vs one or 2 on an open track.
So all the Hamilton haters, please.... there is no comparison
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Jez
04/12/2020 16:21:19 14 3
bbc
Tire - to grow weary
Tyre - rubber part of a wheel
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04/12/2020 16:46:20 1 1
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Unless you live over the pond. You know... Where the trunk is not just part of an elephant and good is not just something you put over your head
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04/12/2020 16:49:39 0 0
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Unless you speak American rather than English
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04/12/2020 17:22:34 4 0
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Oh my sincere apologies for the native slip of the tongue.

Here’s another.
Had your mother used a rubber, you’d be erased from making an assumptive comment as you have done.
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04/12/2020 16:21:30 3 4
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Verstappen will win .
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04/12/2020 16:21:40 7 1
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Can't wait for tomorrow and Sunday - if (i know its a big IF) George out qualifies Bottas and then beats him in the race then where will that leave Bottas?
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04/12/2020 16:35:44 11 10
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Where will it leave Hamilton more like!?!.....Finally even the most blindest, blinkered fan boys will see that ITS ALL DOWN TO THE CAR! He’s nothing but a very good driver who would be nowhere in any other car on the grid. BANG!!!....what was that?, no, not a tyre bursting BUT a the ridiculous, huge bubble that the deluded fan boys couldn’t see was all full of hype and PR! LOL
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04/12/2020 16:03:30 127 17
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Proof, if any more were needed, that Bottas really should not be driving that 2nd Mercedes
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04/12/2020 16:21:50 13 1
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It's not proof yet. Bottas has had P1 Fridays before and failed to back them up in the race. Sunday is when the points are handed out, but it's a promising start at Mercedes for Russell.
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04/12/2020 16:22:00 72 14
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The lack of a chip on his shoulder is probably helping George. Good luck young man.......
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04/12/2020 18:44:29 5 5
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we will all have chips on our shoulders after were vaccinated, so some people say
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04/12/2020 16:17:03 6 2
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Rosberg only managed 1 championship in competition with Hamilton. I think it is the best car but Hamilton gets more out of it than Bottas. Let's see how the race goes.
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04/12/2020 16:22:13 1 0
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To be fair Rosberg wasn't all that it either
Would he have got it to F1 if it wasn't for who he was?
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04/12/2020 16:10:23 9 8
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What qualities did he show 2009-2013 when he didn't win a title?
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04/12/2020 16:22:33 13 2
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He still managed to win a race each season despite being in a poor car
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04/12/2020 16:29:23 17 5
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Exactly, name another driver who achieved the same thing in that period. You can't, because there isn't one. This obsession some people have with tearing down Hamilton is very odd.
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04/12/2020 16:23:04 12 2
bbc
George Russell for sports personality of the year (he can take Tyson Furys place as he doesn't want it)
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04/12/2020 16:36:24 14 1
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Johnathan Rea for SPOTH, 6 times world superbike champ, and a nice guy.
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04/12/2020 16:20:42 4 17
bbc
Another rich boy. Period.
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04/12/2020 16:23:08 13 1
bbc
Another bitter person. Fact.
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04/12/2020 16:11:46 34 13
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Probably all down to weight. Lewis is shorter than Russell, but Russell has fewer earrings.
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04/12/2020 16:23:14 8 5
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I'm a lewis fan but this comment did make me chuckle :) nice one :)
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04/12/2020 16:23:28 4 0
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We all know the car is amazing but over a season the defining factor becomes the team and the driver. Well done for showing Mercedes who to pick next.
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04/12/2020 16:26:00 4 0
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Yeah just a pure coincidence that the cars always come in two by two
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04/12/2020 16:11:47 7 14
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Ultimately this debate of car vs driver can only be settled by separating the two. The drivers need to be rotated through each car during the season with the ride they are designated on determined by weekly draw on the Thursday. There can then be a true relegation / promotion process for new drivers a la football.
Driver compensation will then be determined solely by performance
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04/12/2020 16:24:03 0 2
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Epic idea!! Only issue I can see is who, ultimately pays the driver(s)? A central pool contributed to by all teams? But at what ratio?
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04/12/2020 16:24:06 13 13
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I know very little about F1.
I know nothing about the make of cars and how they compare.
What I do know is that Hamilton is arguably the greatest driver of all times and still people stick the boot in.
Very sad and very strange.
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04/12/2020 16:26:02 4 4
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You know more than a lot of people who feel the need to comment on here.
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04/12/2020 16:28:08 3 2
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Yep you know very little about Formula 1 as you have stated
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04/12/2020 16:31:22 4 1
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To be the greatest driver of all time you need to land a place with the best team.

Michael Schumacher was lauded as the best driver and was also very good, however on several occasions his team mate at Ferrari let him pass so that he could win the championship.

Personally I think Verstappen is the best driver out there at the moment, unfortunately for him, he doesn't drive the best car.
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04/12/2020 16:32:30 1 2
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Stick LH in his team mates car and see how good he is, always seems to get all the brakes
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04/12/2020 16:17:36 22 22
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I see the Hamilton lovers are out in force yet again defending him when some who hasn't driven the same car provides the same top place. Hamilton is not special the car he drives is, separate the two and you will see just another driver.
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04/12/2020 16:24:17 7 2
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"He only won because of the faster car". It's a really boring and predictable argument, no creativity. It's also foolish, if the driver that ultimately wins gets vilified because of the machinery, then what's the point in the sport? The driver and car are symbiotic.
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04/12/2020 17:07:01 0 0
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Does this apply to Michael Schumacher ? The most vilified and yet Greatest F1 driver ever.
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04/12/2020 16:24:53 14 15
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Oh would you believe it, turns out Hamilton isn’t the great driver he’s made out to be, just has the fastest car...who knew.
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04/12/2020 16:25:16 4 4
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Typical great British public always slater a success you lot make me laugh.
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ZG
04/12/2020 16:25:22 5 2
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Much as I think this is great for GR, there's a part of me that wishes that Toto had found some way of getting one of the HYS know-it-alls' grandmothers a super-licence for the weekend. Mind you, I don't suppose the sponsors would want their logos in a crumpled mess against the pit wall 10m outside the garage and Mercedes really have nothing to prove to those twits anyway...
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04/12/2020 16:27:40 0 9
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Crumpled mess against the pit wall......reminds me of Hamiltons early career
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DM
04/12/2020 16:32:02 5 0
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Good call but you really think they'd go 10m...? I think you meant to say 10cm......
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04/12/2020 16:33:24 2 0
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Brilliant!!
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04/12/2020 16:23:28 4 0
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We all know the car is amazing but over a season the defining factor becomes the team and the driver. Well done for showing Mercedes who to pick next.
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04/12/2020 16:26:00 4 0
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Yeah just a pure coincidence that the cars always come in two by two