Virus levels falling across most of England, says ONS
04/12/2020 | news | health | 1,217
Infection levels are down among all age groups and all regions apart from one, data suggests.
So the infection rate of the kung flu is falling. Big deal this corrupt, lying government will still keep this pointless and unfair tier system or put us back in lockdown for a virus that is a 1% killer and 99% recovery rate, total bs. Removed
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04/12/2020 13:14:52 6 6
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20% of the people who contract Covid end up in hospital, often for lengthy stays. This reduces capacity which means poorer outcomes for the whole population. 1% deaths is also not 'bs'.. it is 10x the death rate from seasonal flu. See the bigger picture.
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04/12/2020 13:08:43 52 39
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Of course infection rates in England are falling, we have only just completed a 4 week lockdown. How will the Government possibly justify keeping 99% of us under the current draconian totalitarian restirctions after the next review in a week or so time? Let' see how they are going to move the goalposts this time!
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04/12/2020 13:26:34 19 9
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I believe certain scientists and health professionals definitely do have an agenda and will want to keep some of these restrictions in place for years.
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04/12/2020 13:37:56 3 1
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In this case though, these are figures from Office for National Statistics, who by law are independent of government.
The current format of this forum, defaulting to “Highest Rated”, distorts the general opinion. It accentuates a few single points (mob rule!), relegates less popular ideas, works against new ideas and suppresses plurality of viewpoints.

The “Highest Rated” should be dropped, or at least become non-default, and I’m going to spam the Beeb until they get it right, and hope everyone else will too.
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04/12/2020 13:22:17 4 7
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Oh shut up!
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04/12/2020 13:23:43 1 2
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Absolutely
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This plague came from abroad, brought to our fair land of England by people carrying the virus allowed in through our borders. With Brexit we would be in a position to close the borders permanently and have rigid controls. Johnny Foreigner has much to answer for. Removed
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04/12/2020 13:44:13 3 8
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Ever thought it was an airborne virus that the wind could and would have simply blown it anywhere. Hence a mask and Anti Social distance did nothing to stop it.
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04/12/2020 13:44:32 3 0
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the UK can close its borders whenever it wants to...now, anytime in the past irrespective of being part of the EU or not....maybe you missed the part during the pandemic where a number of countries in the EU completely sealed their borders.

still dont get it do you....Brexit has nothing to do with this and still remains a bad idea
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You need your ring fixed again?
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04/12/2020 13:53:08 2 0
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Idiotic comment blaming China for the virus. Viruses do not have nationalities and do not recognise borders.
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04/12/2020 14:00:19 2 0
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What has "Johnny Foreigner " got to do with it? It was those British nutters who just have to travel abroad who brought much of the infection back with them, and who spread it around Europe.
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04/12/2020 13:15:13 153 52
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It will go back up again once the pubs and clubs fill up for Christmas. The answer is the vaccination programme whatever the morons have to say against it.
I pity those that blindly believe the propaganda. How many people has this virus, by itself, killed; hardly anyone. But you line up for your rushed vaccine like a good indoctrinated drone. Removed
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04/12/2020 14:26:49 8 5
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this virus HAS been the cause of at least 60000 deaths and when we look at the excess deaths for this time of the year it will have been the indirect cause of many more so you're the one that is acting like the indoctrinated drone of a conspiracy cult
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04/12/2020 14:27:46 4 1
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How do you define '...hardly anyone...'?!. I suppose we should be infuriated that fools like me have been stupid enough to get vaccinated for all these 'trifling' diseases like measles, rubella, flu (thanks to vaccinations I've reached that golden age...).... Perhaps you believe that pandemics are a perfectly healthy and natural way to cull the population ...?!
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04/12/2020 15:30:42 2 6
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You should never argue with people on the BBC HYS. After all they do believe this covid nonsense is a real killer bug.
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04/12/2020 15:44:58 0 2
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Some people won't listen or learn.
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04/12/2020 13:44:13 3 8
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Ever thought it was an airborne virus that the wind could and would have simply blown it anywhere. Hence a mask and Anti Social distance did nothing to stop it.
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04/12/2020 13:52:33 7 6
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Amazing Close the pubs and the rates go down Open the pubs the rates go up
I there a message there ?
You've clearly never been in one since they opened. No need for you to Socially distance you sound like you have no friends in any event Removed
Rising domestic energy costs cause particular problems for the health and well-being of the elderly. ... During the Winter of 2014-15, there were an estimated 43,900 Excess Winter Deaths in England and Wales, the highest number since 1999/00.

They government have done something about that by instead of shivering and starving to death they coughed instead.
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04/12/2020 13:59:07 21 7
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So the conclusion is Lockdowns don't work rates fall while Jo Public is lock up and as soon as they are let out a little they go up so it is time to learn to live with the virus until the vaccine arrives in sufficient numbers next year. This morning I did my mums shopping as it was snowy out and she's old, however I wouldn't except the rest of the country to be lock up just in case she fell
Except we don't need a vaccine, but feel free if it makes you happier Removed
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04/12/2020 13:23:05 66 220
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By morons you mean people who are not brainless sheep.
Who does your tampons? Removed
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04/12/2020 14:21:12 1 2
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Hi I’m victor vaccine ,
I’m coming for you ??
Hi, I'm Peter punch in the mouth. Removed
Hi,
I,m Fanny Fuddles and I blow bubbles.
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04/12/2020 14:35:14 1 0
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Ouch????
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04/12/2020 13:11:09 88 17
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Great news.. This and the vaccine hopefully means lower tiers end of Jan and an end to them by Spring...

So long as people don't act like idiots and get the jab when offered (which I appreciate isn't a given!)
I am lost on your comment - why "great news" on the vaccine if you then decry people taking the vaccine??
I think you, not they are the "idiot"
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We need electric fences around tier 3 areas I think. Keep those pesky disease ridden mingers out of our way. Removed
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04/12/2020 14:41:15 0 3
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This is a highly contagious disease. It only takes one person spreading their nasal discharges around for the infection rate to hit pandemic proportions. This is why these 'tier' areas are nonsense and are killing people who would otherwise have lived.
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Hi, I'm Peter punch in the mouth. Removed
Hi,
I,m Fanny Fuddles and I blow bubbles.
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We need electric fences around tier 3 areas I think. Keep those pesky disease ridden mingers out of our way. Removed
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04/12/2020 14:46:37 8 10
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The biggest game changer for me this past 9 month hasn't been Deaths, Infections, lockdowns, Isolations, Face masks, or anything else like it.

It has been the totally ridiculous and over the top policing from plods, who seem to have taken on a Stazi role. They have lost all respect from me and are unlikely to get it back anytime soon.
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04/12/2020 15:01:24 12 6
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I'm bored now.

Just follow the rules for God's sake!

The headline on this article is wrong.

You cannot say 'the data suggests'. It must be 'the data suggest'.

Data is plural.

That's how bored I am!
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Great news.. This and the vaccine hopefully means lower tiers end of Jan and an end to them by Spring...

So long as people don't act like idiots and get the jab when offered (which I appreciate isn't a given!)
I am not sure why my comment was removed, which was: 'Why "great news" on the vaccine if you then decry people taking the vaccine?? I think you, not they are the "idi*t"'
Any guesses? Loads of the word 'idi*t' in all posts, so why mine? What are these BBC moderators doing? Perhaps without reading, removing every nth post to earn their keep ...
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04/12/2020 14:07:49 13 8
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You're not correct ( along with a lot of the UK media) - Russia has been using its Sputnik V vaccine since the summer.
The conversation is about Western democracies and not totalitarian Fascist states Removed
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Most local businesses are unable to continue and the globalists have control, so suddenly the numbers look favourable. How sheepy do you have to be to swallow this nonsense? The virus was never dangerous and they made up the infection rates! Removed
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04/12/2020 15:29:37 2 2
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How stupid do you have to be to say the virus was never dangerous when 1.5 million have died and many more millions left with long term health problems
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04/12/2020 13:32:14 5 10
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how many off you know of people dyeing in your area in mine ive only herd of one about three months ago how do we know if the figures are true or false why dont the goverment or the bbc tel us the areas which have a high infectin rates or death rates breakg down whch areas so that we can have te true fgure
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04/12/2020 13:35:46 68 21
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Yet again, a change in the way the figures are presented. Instead of cases per 100,000 we now have 1 in 105. All this seems to be designed to throw people off balance and confuse. I still don't believe the figures being presented, as they seem to be manipulated by every group to say what they want them to say. Not saying Covid isn't a problem, just saying we need ONE reliable reporting system.
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04/12/2020 15:49:30 4 2
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I wish we could have some continuity in how the North East, Yorkshire, the Humber are referred to. Sometimes it’s North East & Yorkshire , sometimes it’s Yorkshire & the Humber, and occasionally we are all the north East. This article refers to us in 2 different ways. Come on folks......let be specific!
s***holes, that work for you? Removed
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04/12/2020 14:07:49 13 8
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You're not correct ( along with a lot of the UK media) - Russia has been using its Sputnik V vaccine since the summer.
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04/12/2020 16:02:02 4 2
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Dry yer eyes !
Big Brown Bear was having a difficult pooh beside the river when White Rabbit sauntered up, wiggled her bottom and was done with it.

BBB asked WR if it stuck to her fur?

Oh no, why of course not!

BBB gently picked WR up and.................... wiped his bum with her.
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04/12/2020 13:26:55 95 123
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The R rate was already falling before the lockdown, so no surprise. Lockdowns are only any use if your health care system is in serious trouble. 10/12 hospitals being at capacity is no where near justification.
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04/12/2020 13:23:05 66 220
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By morons you mean people who are not brainless sheep.
No he was 100% correct all anti vaxxers are morons but the more of them who refuse the vaccine, the stronger the gene pool will be. Removed
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04/12/2020 13:45:35 11 35
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They are either government stooges, or believe the constant hysterical nonsense peddled by the media at the behest of those in power for now. I truly despair at the lack of any critical thinking ability in large swathes of the populous.
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04/12/2020 13:29:37 34 93
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Come and join me tonight if you like. My local hasn't put in place any of the stupid rules except a plastic screen at the bar. I'll be there after work for a pint and a substantial meal of beer.
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04/12/2020 17:19:09 3 1
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so how is boris to blame. nothing he does can be right, can it?
Bring It On, BUsiness As Usual, Send It Packing, Shake Hands, Infect Yourself, Whack-A-Mole!!

That is why he is to blame, as he is a Village Idiot.
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04/12/2020 13:23:05 66 220
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By morons you mean people who are not brainless sheep.
No...morons Removed
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04/12/2020 13:23:05 66 220
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By morons you mean people who are not brainless sheep.
No morons are morons - doing your own thing is anarchy - bet they believe in common rules when they hold their hands out for state aid every week etc Removed
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04/12/2020 17:46:40 4 8
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The Government should keep the lockdown in place until all have been vaccinated and there had been a clear 3 months without any cases.
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By morons you mean people who are not brainless sheep.
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Many of you demonstrate a level of naivety beyond comprehension. You duly comply with any instruction and believe everything your corrupt Governments tell you from going to war to a mass killer virus. Do you ever stop to think, to look for answers, to question, why. In the end it is your lives that will lay in ruins for your stupidity. History does repeat itself, don't come crying. Removed
05/12/2020 15:00:37 3 2
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What, you mean euromomo who don't include some of the data from the most affected countries (Italy, France, Spain) and then show you the pooled result of all the rest. Funny how you play down data you don't like but accept unquestioningly anything that seems to back up your flawed thinking.
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Book me in, I'll do it tomorrow