Primark predicts rising sales despite Covid hit
04/12/2020 | news | business | 171
The chain says recent lockdowns cost it £430m in sales, but trading since reopening has been strong.
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jon
04/12/2020 11:19:02 5 2
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The survivors will gain where others fail.
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Dee
05/12/2020 16:31:53 0 0
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Yes. If you don’t get the business model right and have management asset strip the place.
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04/12/2020 11:19:42 1 17
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Primark should show some social responsibility during the pandemic and offer an online service.
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04/12/2020 11:29:08 11 2
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So people can complain there is no free delivery on £2.99 leggings?
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04/12/2020 11:20:36 25 6
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Good to see at least some businesses doing well!!

Suspect gloomy HYSers will know better.............................
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04/12/2020 11:21:25 14 8
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A snapshot of bargain basement Britain. Primark is regarded as a bit of a joke selling cheap to the chav market, but to be fair, they do sell some reasonable items of clothing also. But there is no money in the economy which is why so many store chains are failing. Good news for Primark, bad news for the High Street in general.
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04/12/2020 11:28:57 29 7
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Primark shoppers are not automatically ‘chav market’!
Don’t be such a snob!
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Dee
05/12/2020 16:12:56 0 1
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You should know that second hand Primark stuff on eBay is bought by people too posh to push in Primark stores!
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04/12/2020 11:23:27 7 4
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Didn't we have virtually the same story after the first lockdown? Primark only lost out on so many sales because it has no online presence - and that is a decision taken by those at the very highest level within the company. No point complaining that people have been stopped from buying your goods when you are the ones stopping them!
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04/12/2020 11:40:59 3 1
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"No point complaining that people have been stopped from buying your goods "

They're not. Learn to read.
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04/12/2020 11:24:20 25 14
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‘Primark lost £430m in sales’

Sales of garments that are usually only worn once or twice then binned
by the ‘fashion conscious’ crew.

Fast fashion is leading to a mountain of clothing being thrown away each year and has a huge impact on the environment
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200710-why-clothes-are-so-hard-to-recycle
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04/12/2020 11:31:28 24 16
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Fashion conscious people do not shop in Primark. They wouldn't be seen dead in there. It's like labelling someone as a food snob, then mentioning Greggs.
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04/12/2020 11:26:38 40 8
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I am impressed with Primark's attitude to paying suppliers, treatment of staff and responsibility with taxpayer's money. Everything that a well managed and prudent company should be. The acceptable face of capitalism. I am now a stakeholder having bought shares in ABF. I am very happy with my investment at every level and would hope there is enough in the pot for a good staff bonus this Christmas.
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04/12/2020 11:28:04 9 4
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good investment strategy.
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04/12/2020 12:59:58 5 1
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Of all the pictures of people shopping the images of Primark stand out most. Why? Because the queues waiting to enter are distanced and orderly. They seem to be taking the welfare of both staff and customers seriously. I only wish I lived near somewhere that has one of their stores.
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05/12/2020 14:56:30 1 0
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Pity they only make 'tat' clothing.
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MVP
04/12/2020 11:26:51 14 6
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Not great news that sales of "throwaway fashion" are booming.

The UK has a commitment to reduce its consumption levels to meet its responsibilities under the Paris Climate Agreement
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04/12/2020 11:29:02 7 4
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until,china states etc.do it.its not going to make a difference.
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04/12/2020 11:21:25 14 8
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A snapshot of bargain basement Britain. Primark is regarded as a bit of a joke selling cheap to the chav market, but to be fair, they do sell some reasonable items of clothing also. But there is no money in the economy which is why so many store chains are failing. Good news for Primark, bad news for the High Street in general.
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04/12/2020 11:28:57 29 7
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Primark shoppers are not automatically ‘chav market’!
Don’t be such a snob!
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04/12/2020 11:35:02 4 10
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Can you actually understand what you have read? Or are you too thick.
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04/12/2020 11:19:42 1 17
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Primark should show some social responsibility during the pandemic and offer an online service.
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04/12/2020 11:29:08 11 2
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So people can complain there is no free delivery on £2.99 leggings?
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04/12/2020 11:52:54 2 3
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It's not just one item though. People are shopping for an entire wardrobe for their next court appearance.
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04/12/2020 11:29:39 3 12
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Get your cheap and nasty tat here
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04/12/2020 11:54:47 5 2
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Or buy it M&S for 10 times the price
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04/12/2020 11:29:42 7 18
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There seems to be an unusually disproportionate amount of articles on the BBC about Primark. This, I think, is about the 5th I've seen in a few months.

Why the big interest in a tat shop? I doubt Primark patrons even read the news, or can read at all.

I thought people were struggling financially and food banks were running out of food? Yet they can afford Primark garbage they don't need?
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04/12/2020 11:59:30 3 1
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It's because people are struggling financially that Primark is doing so well. No doubt a lot of it is unnecessary (environmentally harmful) 'garbage', but people do need to clothe themselves.

And it hardly needs saying, but being hard up doesn't automatically mean you're stupid... Seriously! Perhaps all the BBC articles are trying to broaden your perspective.
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04/12/2020 11:30:12 19 9
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£430m of sales - that's some mark up on almost 50 quids worth of stock !
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04/12/2020 11:32:12 8 3
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post of the day.respect.
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04/12/2020 11:24:20 25 14
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‘Primark lost £430m in sales’

Sales of garments that are usually only worn once or twice then binned
by the ‘fashion conscious’ crew.

Fast fashion is leading to a mountain of clothing being thrown away each year and has a huge impact on the environment
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200710-why-clothes-are-so-hard-to-recycle
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04/12/2020 11:31:28 24 16
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Fashion conscious people do not shop in Primark. They wouldn't be seen dead in there. It's like labelling someone as a food snob, then mentioning Greggs.
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04/12/2020 11:33:52 11 13
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I once went into a Primark (to shelter from the rain) and I came over rather unwell.

I just could not comprehend the vast array of tat they had in there. I think it's traumatised me to this day.
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04/12/2020 11:22:05 1 5
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Sonia swine they hand back that damn business rate handout?
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04/12/2020 11:23:59 3 4
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thanks be to god,the economy is saved.not
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04/12/2020 11:28:57 29 7
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Primark shoppers are not automatically ‘chav market’!
Don’t be such a snob!
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04/12/2020 11:35:02 4 10
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Can you actually understand what you have read? Or are you too thick.
Clearly it’s not me that’s too thick. Idiot! Removed
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04/12/2020 17:09:18 1 1
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Wow you really don’t like being called a snob! Your comment was extremely clear. Perhaps you don’t really understand my comment which makes you ‘too thick’
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04/12/2020 11:39:09 15 2
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Amazing achievement considering they do not sell online. They do have a strong online presence vis social media.

They provide what the customer wants. If the customer wants disposable tat and they are providing it....can hardly complain can we?
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04/12/2020 13:31:39 5 3
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Of course the truly ethical residents of HYS will complain. They only buy clothes from UK companies who pay their staff 3x minimum wage, have paid 3x tax actually due and buy from UK suppliers who do the same. Luckily their £50 socks last for years.
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04/12/2020 11:23:27 7 4
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Didn't we have virtually the same story after the first lockdown? Primark only lost out on so many sales because it has no online presence - and that is a decision taken by those at the very highest level within the company. No point complaining that people have been stopped from buying your goods when you are the ones stopping them!
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04/12/2020 11:40:59 3 1
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"No point complaining that people have been stopped from buying your goods "

They're not. Learn to read.
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04/12/2020 11:26:38 40 8
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I am impressed with Primark's attitude to paying suppliers, treatment of staff and responsibility with taxpayer's money. Everything that a well managed and prudent company should be. The acceptable face of capitalism. I am now a stakeholder having bought shares in ABF. I am very happy with my investment at every level and would hope there is enough in the pot for a good staff bonus this Christmas.
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04/12/2020 11:28:04 9 4
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good investment strategy.
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MVP
04/12/2020 11:26:51 14 6
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Not great news that sales of "throwaway fashion" are booming.

The UK has a commitment to reduce its consumption levels to meet its responsibilities under the Paris Climate Agreement
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04/12/2020 11:29:02 7 4
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until,china states etc.do it.its not going to make a difference.
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04/12/2020 11:29:22 42 6
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Here comes the "throw away" comments again.

Guess who throws stuff away...those who purchased it and decided to do it. It was not Primark telling you to do this...
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05/12/2020 11:33:39 2 0
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Ah, but the clothes marketed there don't last five minutes, I have been told!
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05/12/2020 11:56:48 4 1
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The problem is 'Women'. My wife, daughters & grand daughters feel the need to buy me load of 'stuff' for xmas, I don't want, don't need & will not use. I'll spend the next 6 months sneaking it all into charity bags.
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04/12/2020 11:29:42 7 18
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There seems to be an unusually disproportionate amount of articles on the BBC about Primark. This, I think, is about the 5th I've seen in a few months.

Why the big interest in a tat shop? I doubt Primark patrons even read the news, or can read at all.

I thought people were struggling financially and food banks were running out of food? Yet they can afford Primark garbage they don't need?
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JG
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04/12/2020 11:43:12 26 14
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Primark - the glorified jumble sale. No other clothes shop I go to has so many clothes on the floor as Primark. Feel sorry for staff who spend hours folding up clothes only to be tossed onto the floor again by chavs later on.
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04/12/2020 11:46:25 9 5
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I have noticed that also. It's like a massive jumble sale on speed.
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04/12/2020 18:56:16 3 0
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Least the staff have a job
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04/12/2020 11:30:12 19 9
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£430m of sales - that's some mark up on almost 50 quids worth of stock !
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04/12/2020 11:32:12 8 3
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post of the day.respect.
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04/12/2020 11:44:28 4 6
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People that only wear clothes once or twice then bin them are sad fools. I wear my clothes until they get holes or colour starts to fade.
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04/12/2020 11:51:03 7 2
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I hope you at least wash them from time to time.
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04/12/2020 11:49:01 4 1
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The quality of Primark clothes are no different to any other store. They are often sourced from the same far east manufacturers.
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04/12/2020 11:53:14 3 2
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Hark at the snobs on here. Primark clothes are no different quality to Marks and Sparks anymore than the beans in Morrisons. You just pay less at Primark for clothes.
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04/12/2020 11:45:04 3 3
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High turnover of disposable goods is the cornerstone of world business. Most countries - other than China - have a humongous balance of trade deficit which can never be paid off but is allowed to continue in order not to burst the bubble. Now where's my Primani Store card?
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04/12/2020 11:45:20 10 7
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They do a smashing line in children's replica prison uniforms. You can't accuse them of being slow to target their future customer base.
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04/12/2020 11:43:12 26 14
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Primark - the glorified jumble sale. No other clothes shop I go to has so many clothes on the floor as Primark. Feel sorry for staff who spend hours folding up clothes only to be tossed onto the floor again by chavs later on.
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04/12/2020 11:46:25 9 5
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I have noticed that also. It's like a massive jumble sale on speed.
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04/12/2020 11:50:01 9 1
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if the shops are reopen then its obvious they will make money again. no brainer really .
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04/12/2020 13:39:51 0 0
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doesn't apply to Topshop or Debenhams then does it??
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04/12/2020 11:44:28 4 6
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People that only wear clothes once or twice then bin them are sad fools. I wear my clothes until they get holes or colour starts to fade.
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04/12/2020 11:51:03 7 2
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I hope you at least wash them from time to time.
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04/12/2020 11:51:37 13 9
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A lot of snobs on here today, complaining about a British success story about a shop they never use.

Never mind you can carry on paying over the odds for garments at your much loved Dorothy Perkins, TopShop, Laura Ashly, Bonne Marche and Debenhams.
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04/12/2020 11:57:53 6 2
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Primark is an Irish company.
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04/12/2020 11:29:08 11 2
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So people can complain there is no free delivery on £2.99 leggings?
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04/12/2020 11:52:54 2 3
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It's not just one item though. People are shopping for an entire wardrobe for their next court appearance.
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04/12/2020 11:53:17 22 15
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Oh come on, lets cut to the chase. It's a terrible store chain. Cheap, nasty, poor quality. You go in and there is clothes all over the floor from people rummaging like rats in a bin. It's a nightmare, and it is a snap shot of where we really don't need to be.
When I was young the nearest I saw to Primark was the church hall jumble sale.
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04/12/2020 12:38:14 8 2
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You've obviously never been in Sports Direct then!
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LMG
04/12/2020 13:40:22 2 1
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It can get crowded and there is a lot of stock but environment aside - "cheap, nasty, poor quality" seems a bit harsh, what data is this based on? is the cotton from a poor quality source? or is the clothing put together from low quality showing machines? You might dislike the brand, but you should the good on objective facts not on opinion.
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04/12/2020 11:29:39 3 12
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Get your cheap and nasty tat here
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04/12/2020 11:54:47 5 2
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Or buy it M&S for 10 times the price
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04/12/2020 11:55:11 3 1
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Argos learned from what the public did to Primark stores, that's why they keep all their tat in the back.
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04/12/2020 11:44:28 4 6
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People that only wear clothes once or twice then bin them are sad fools. I wear my clothes until they get holes or colour starts to fade.
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04/12/2020 11:49:01 4 1
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The quality of Primark clothes are no different to any other store. They are often sourced from the same far east manufacturers.
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04/12/2020 11:56:43 2 6
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Primark are eternally grateful to all those Wetherspoons customers who model their clothes for them.
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04/12/2020 12:04:52 2 1
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Harrods and The Ritz man are you?
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04/12/2020 11:56:48 13 5
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Fast fashion should be taxed out of existence.
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Dee
05/12/2020 12:55:37 0 0
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If all fast fashion companies go out of business, they will not be paying any taxes at all. Besides, where would people on a tight budget shop? What would happen to workers in third world countries - starvation?
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04/12/2020 11:44:28 4 6
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People that only wear clothes once or twice then bin them are sad fools. I wear my clothes until they get holes or colour starts to fade.
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04/12/2020 11:53:14 3 2
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Hark at the snobs on here. Primark clothes are no different quality to Marks and Sparks anymore than the beans in Morrisons. You just pay less at Primark for clothes.
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04/12/2020 11:53:26 8 1
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And all from Coal fired China, very green !
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04/12/2020 11:51:37 13 9
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A lot of snobs on here today, complaining about a British success story about a shop they never use.

Never mind you can carry on paying over the odds for garments at your much loved Dorothy Perkins, TopShop, Laura Ashly, Bonne Marche and Debenhams.
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04/12/2020 11:57:53 6 2
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Primark is an Irish company.
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04/12/2020 12:30:33 2 2
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not anymore .... owned by Associated British Foods .head quarted in London ,
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04/12/2020 12:43:32 1 2
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Originally, yes. HQ in London. Ethical trade team is based in Peterborough.
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04/12/2020 11:58:49 19 4
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I hope the despicable Philip Gree reads this article. Primark have a good attitude towards staff and suppliers and don't treat them like something under ones foot like Green did at Arcadia. I am a businessman and have always believed if you treat people right and fairly it will come back a thousand fold. Primark is a well managed business living within its means and is a bright light.
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04/12/2020 13:19:16 1 3
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How do you know they have a good attitude towards suppliers? Arcadia also has/had a defined benefit scheme, Primark's is a money purchase scheme so you're not comparing like for like.
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04/12/2020 11:59:37 4 2
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Alternative headline: "Primark preditcs rising sales along with rising Covid cases"
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04/12/2020 11:58:05 8 6
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The clothes are cheap because the work forces making them are not paid or treated fairly. All the clothes they sell should picture the conditions the workers have to put up with on them.
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04/12/2020 12:23:45 9 2
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And you really think the likes of Ted Baker who sell t shirts for £60 plus have better working condition for workers ?
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04/12/2020 12:01:53 13 5
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Most made in China - child labour, Uighur prison labour - who knows. Plus, of course, after Jan 1 will we see import tariffs rise on such goods putting the Primark business model of pile them high & cheap and then throw them away 6 months later in question.
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04/12/2020 23:01:35 5 0
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How are you linking made in china and 1st of January tariffs? I don't see the connection.
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04/12/2020 12:02:24 20 3
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Primark customers see the fashion industry for what it is, a load of old tat, the difference between them and the snobs on here is that they are not paying ten times as much for two times the quality tat.
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04/12/2020 12:02:29 1 3
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And ahead of Brexit too!
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04/12/2020 11:29:42 7 18
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There seems to be an unusually disproportionate amount of articles on the BBC about Primark. This, I think, is about the 5th I've seen in a few months.

Why the big interest in a tat shop? I doubt Primark patrons even read the news, or can read at all.

I thought people were struggling financially and food banks were running out of food? Yet they can afford Primark garbage they don't need?
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04/12/2020 11:59:30 3 1
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It's because people are struggling financially that Primark is doing so well. No doubt a lot of it is unnecessary (environmentally harmful) 'garbage', but people do need to clothe themselves.

And it hardly needs saying, but being hard up doesn't automatically mean you're stupid... Seriously! Perhaps all the BBC articles are trying to broaden your perspective.
I've only ever been into Primark once. I felt dirty (though not in the biblical sense) when I came out and had to fumigate my clothes with DDT. Every other Mother seemed to be screaming at her badly behaved kids, who were either called Chardonnay or Tyler. The Father's (although I couldn't possibly corroborate this fact) didn't appear too bright or look as though they had been employed much. Removed
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04/12/2020 12:35:00 1 1
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What a rude comment.
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04/12/2020 12:03:44 8 6
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Well that is good economic news for them.

So I expect them to be handing back the business rates subsidy like the good supermarkets then.

If they do not hopefully their customers will boycott them in future.
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Dee
05/12/2020 16:46:12 1 1
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Unlike other British companies, they have given back £210m in furlough payments & refused £30m job retention scheme.
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04/12/2020 12:03:44 13 2
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Shopping in primark is great ... reminds me of the old days - "shop all day in primark. Bought two tops, pair of shoes, jacket and trousers ... and still had change of a fiver!" (*)
* for younger readers "fiver" is five pounds cash.
Ahh .... ye goode olde days ....
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04/12/2020 17:37:15 2 0
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Are you from Yorkshire or just a devotee of Mr. Python?
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04/12/2020 12:04:27 9 3
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Perhaps sales revenues will increase after some free advertising on the UK's leading news platform.
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Dee
05/12/2020 13:06:44 1 0
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Given the mile long queues, it doesn’t need free advertising from the BBC.
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04/12/2020 11:56:43 2 6
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Primark are eternally grateful to all those Wetherspoons customers who model their clothes for them.
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04/12/2020 12:04:52 2 1
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Harrods and The Ritz man are you?
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04/12/2020 12:04:58 24 1
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On a positive note, people still have their jobs.
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04/12/2020 11:58:49 19 4
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I hope the despicable Philip Gree reads this article. Primark have a good attitude towards staff and suppliers and don't treat them like something under ones foot like Green did at Arcadia. I am a businessman and have always believed if you treat people right and fairly it will come back a thousand fold. Primark is a well managed business living within its means and is a bright light.
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04/12/2020 12:06:50 24 4
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Putting snobbery and designer clothes to one side, Primark is a smart business model that is head and shoulders above why they are not going bust anytime soon. Like Next retail they have been commercially tight with leasing retail space. Just a shame they can't be encouraged to manufacture in UK but £2 tees would become £8 tees.....
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05/12/2020 19:29:24 0 0
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Forget all about the poor people that died when the building collapsed that housed the factory to produce the cheat tat for Primark amongst others. So much for Primark and it's attitude to workers making their products.
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04/12/2020 12:07:29 11 8
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Rush out and spend money on mediocre clothing you do not NEED. While doing so support foreign economies with dubious human rights record. 6 months later throw away.
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04/12/2020 12:14:11 14 7
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Psssst this is a capitalist economy NOT a communist one. Whilst you may not understand why or how people choose to spend THEIR money on. It is NOT your concern.

The point is, people have worked hard and it's THEIR CHOICE how they wish to spend there money.

If you aren't happy then you may want to move to Russia or China.
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04/12/2020 12:16:24 5 1
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"Rush out and spend money on mediocre clothing you do not NEED"

That's a very elitist statement !! How can you possibly know what people can afford or what they NEED

At least Primark is not owned by some slimeball
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05/12/2020 15:13:39 0 0
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As long as 6 months? I don't think so!
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04/12/2020 12:10:56 3 2
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Recession... what recession ?
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04/12/2020 12:07:29 11 8
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Rush out and spend money on mediocre clothing you do not NEED. While doing so support foreign economies with dubious human rights record. 6 months later throw away.
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04/12/2020 12:14:11 14 7
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Psssst this is a capitalist economy NOT a communist one. Whilst you may not understand why or how people choose to spend THEIR money on. It is NOT your concern.

The point is, people have worked hard and it's THEIR CHOICE how they wish to spend there money.

If you aren't happy then you may want to move to Russia or China.
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04/12/2020 12:16:58 3 8
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'their' money. How do you know they work HARD?
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04/12/2020 12:24:35 1 5
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Don't think the OP stated you can't spend it on what you want.
They have commented on the fact that a lot of this toot comes from countries where the workers are treated as nigh on subhuman and should be pleased for the mind numbing work in dangerous conditions at a few rupees a week, just so you can spend your money as you please.
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04/12/2020 12:28:04 0 5
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You must be thrilled to support a country who practice mass genocide low life
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04/12/2020 12:07:29 11 8
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Rush out and spend money on mediocre clothing you do not NEED. While doing so support foreign economies with dubious human rights record. 6 months later throw away.
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04/12/2020 12:16:24 5 1
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"Rush out and spend money on mediocre clothing you do not NEED"

That's a very elitist statement !! How can you possibly know what people can afford or what they NEED

At least Primark is not owned by some slimeball
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04/12/2020 12:27:26 1 4
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Wow, you can't work out the OP's statement and conflate it to mean what you want it to mean.
How exactly is it elitist? Do you scream that if you're corrected by someone more qualified than you as well?
I'd suggest if you 'need' something out of Primark then you probably need to re-evaluate your life goals and circumstances.
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04/12/2020 13:01:36 0 1
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So you've met the family who control Primark/AB Foods/Selfridges etc then?
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04/12/2020 12:14:11 14 7
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Psssst this is a capitalist economy NOT a communist one. Whilst you may not understand why or how people choose to spend THEIR money on. It is NOT your concern.

The point is, people have worked hard and it's THEIR CHOICE how they wish to spend there money.

If you aren't happy then you may want to move to Russia or China.
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04/12/2020 12:16:58 3 8
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'their' money. How do you know they work HARD?
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04/12/2020 12:20:25 3 8
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Not many overheads when your workforce get paid a bowl of rice for 16 hours work
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04/12/2020 12:51:58 4 2
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Proof ????
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04/12/2020 12:21:47 3 8
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There's a surprise, cheap, disposable tat produced in sweat shops will sell well.
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04/12/2020 12:22:41 13 3
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Children's thermals some of the best I have ever bought. These are the only items I purchase from Primark. If looked after they can be passed on to others when outgrown. I still question where goods are manufactured and the plight of those producing them. My own clothes come from JL and M&S which last a very long time. I do not do fashion, particularly the throw away kind. Each to their own.
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04/12/2020 12:25:57 10 8
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Have you checked where your M & S and JL clothes come from? The same factories I expect.
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04/12/2020 11:58:05 8 6
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The clothes are cheap because the work forces making them are not paid or treated fairly. All the clothes they sell should picture the conditions the workers have to put up with on them.
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04/12/2020 12:23:45 9 2
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And you really think the likes of Ted Baker who sell t shirts for £60 plus have better working condition for workers ?
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04/12/2020 12:14:11 14 7
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Psssst this is a capitalist economy NOT a communist one. Whilst you may not understand why or how people choose to spend THEIR money on. It is NOT your concern.

The point is, people have worked hard and it's THEIR CHOICE how they wish to spend there money.

If you aren't happy then you may want to move to Russia or China.
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04/12/2020 12:24:35 1 5
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Don't think the OP stated you can't spend it on what you want.
They have commented on the fact that a lot of this toot comes from countries where the workers are treated as nigh on subhuman and should be pleased for the mind numbing work in dangerous conditions at a few rupees a week, just so you can spend your money as you please.
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04/12/2020 12:22:41 13 3
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Children's thermals some of the best I have ever bought. These are the only items I purchase from Primark. If looked after they can be passed on to others when outgrown. I still question where goods are manufactured and the plight of those producing them. My own clothes come from JL and M&S which last a very long time. I do not do fashion, particularly the throw away kind. Each to their own.
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04/12/2020 12:25:57 10 8
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Have you checked where your M & S and JL clothes come from? The same factories I expect.
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04/12/2020 12:50:45 3 1
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Yes I do. Hence my saying I question where they come from. I like most others have many reservations. It is not only clothing but many household items made of fabrics. I try to do my bit by supporting Fair Trade organisations Traidcraft bed linen, hand printed cottons expensive but beautiful.
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04/12/2020 12:16:24 5 1
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"Rush out and spend money on mediocre clothing you do not NEED"

That's a very elitist statement !! How can you possibly know what people can afford or what they NEED

At least Primark is not owned by some slimeball
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04/12/2020 12:27:26 1 4
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Wow, you can't work out the OP's statement and conflate it to mean what you want it to mean.
How exactly is it elitist? Do you scream that if you're corrected by someone more qualified than you as well?
I'd suggest if you 'need' something out of Primark then you probably need to re-evaluate your life goals and circumstances.
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04/12/2020 12:14:11 14 7
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Psssst this is a capitalist economy NOT a communist one. Whilst you may not understand why or how people choose to spend THEIR money on. It is NOT your concern.

The point is, people have worked hard and it's THEIR CHOICE how they wish to spend there money.

If you aren't happy then you may want to move to Russia or China.
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04/12/2020 12:28:04 0 5
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You must be thrilled to support a country who practice mass genocide low life
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04/12/2020 12:28:11 10 4
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It is easy to predict a rise in sales at Primark. The less money people have the more likely they will shop at Primark.
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04/12/2020 13:07:26 0 2
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I don' t agree with this. Many young Primark customers spend quite a lot when shopping for clothing, and do so regularly.
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05/12/2020 13:09:31 0 0
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Not necessarily. There’s loads of retailers in its space.
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04/12/2020 12:28:35 24 6
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I have just been to Primark to replace plain long-sleeved tops which I bought there 4 / 5 years ago. It doesn't have to be throw away - the basics is Primark are better than those at Gap, M & S and H & M.
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04/12/2020 17:34:47 2 1
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I’m still using a couple of polo shirts I bought from them over 10 years ago! Not quite throw away. I just wish I lived closer to a store now.
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04/12/2020 12:28:48 26 6
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People do make me laugh with the comments about primark clothes being made in sweatshops Well that might be the case but your deluded if you think luxury brands are not. I would argue that paying £70 for a t shirt is more exploitative to the worker than paying £5
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04/12/2020 12:37:42 6 16
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So you only believe in mass genocide if the price is to your liking
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04/12/2020 13:03:41 0 1
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An interesting comment. No criticism, but could you provide an example?
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04/12/2020 11:57:53 6 2
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Primark is an Irish company.
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04/12/2020 12:30:33 2 2
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not anymore .... owned by Associated British Foods .head quarted in London ,
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04/12/2020 13:27:44 0 2
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Who are owned by another company who are owned by a charitable foundation and therefore enjoy substantial tax breaks.
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05/12/2020 16:28:23 0 1
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It’s true that Primark is now an independent subsidiary of ABF. However, as it is the jewel in the crown of ABF, it has a lot of power within that company in the way that ABF lets Primark get on with what they do best.
I've only ever been into Primark once. I felt dirty (though not in the biblical sense) when I came out and had to fumigate my clothes with DDT. Every other Mother seemed to be screaming at her badly behaved kids, who were either called Chardonnay or Tyler. The Father's (although I couldn't possibly corroborate this fact) didn't appear too bright or look as though they had been employed much. Removed
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04/12/2020 12:35:00 1 1
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What a rude comment.
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04/12/2020 12:28:48 26 6
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People do make me laugh with the comments about primark clothes being made in sweatshops Well that might be the case but your deluded if you think luxury brands are not. I would argue that paying £70 for a t shirt is more exploitative to the worker than paying £5
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04/12/2020 12:37:42 6 16
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So you only believe in mass genocide if the price is to your liking
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04/12/2020 13:04:40 1 1
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No, this is not what he/she is saying.
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05/12/2020 19:25:07 0 0
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Don't try and use facts, as long as they are not the ones living in poverty and have terrible working conditions, they don't care. They try and justify it by saying any wage or job is better than none.
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04/12/2020 12:38:59 4 4
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This store has seen off many competitors because they're selling what we want. Cheap fashion items that we'll probably only wear for one season. Other stores charge far too much for the same thing from the same sources.
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04/12/2020 12:43:36 3 4
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Cheap imports....... but then again if you want to look cheap its up to you I guess.
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04/12/2020 11:53:17 22 15
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Oh come on, lets cut to the chase. It's a terrible store chain. Cheap, nasty, poor quality. You go in and there is clothes all over the floor from people rummaging like rats in a bin. It's a nightmare, and it is a snap shot of where we really don't need to be.
When I was young the nearest I saw to Primark was the church hall jumble sale.
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04/12/2020 12:38:14 8 2
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You've obviously never been in Sports Direct then!
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04/12/2020 12:40:56 3 1
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Interesting, ours has closed down
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04/12/2020 12:42:41 1 2
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Few other shops to use what did they expect?
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04/12/2020 11:57:53 6 2
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Primark is an Irish company.
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04/12/2020 12:43:32 1 2
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Originally, yes. HQ in London. Ethical trade team is based in Peterborough.
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04/12/2020 12:38:59 4 4
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This store has seen off many competitors because they're selling what we want. Cheap fashion items that we'll probably only wear for one season. Other stores charge far too much for the same thing from the same sources.
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04/12/2020 12:43:36 3 4
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Cheap imports....... but then again if you want to look cheap its up to you I guess.
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Dee
05/12/2020 16:44:35 0 0
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Primark is actually a very clever store. It does do some excellent designer dupes & has sold cashmere sweaters & Harris tweed jackets. Also, you can dress stylishly on a budget. You just have to figure out what suits you & wear it your way.
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04/12/2020 12:44:56 5 1
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Not rocket science is it. Even allowing for economies of scale, items sold as cheaply as the consumer demands is screwing someone somewhere.
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Dee
05/12/2020 16:30:26 0 1
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Primark does not seem to be screwing other cheaper online brands eg Everything Five Pounds, Boohoo, Shein etc not to mention supermarket clothing.
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04/12/2020 12:45:02 1 2
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I would assume that Primark has been able to make use of all the government support schemes such as furlough and business rates, etc. Given it’s still making good profits, I would hope it follows the same line as the supermarkets in returning some of that money?
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Dee
05/12/2020 16:49:18 0 0
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Primark has returned £210m of furlough money & refused £30m job retention scheme money.
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04/12/2020 12:47:22 9 2
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Dear me, some nasty-minded people criticizing Primark on here. Most I suspect have never set foot in a Primark store. I have been in several; yes they are cheap and not for me, but they cater for a lot of other people. To the person(s) who say it's an Irish company; well yes it is with its HQ in Dublin, but it's a subsidiary of Associated British Foods (ABF) HQ in London.
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04/12/2020 12:50:34 3 2
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It's Penneys in Ireland
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Dee
05/12/2020 13:05:13 1 0
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It’s actually called Penney’s in Ireland (Primark internationally to avoid confusion with the US Penneys Brand). It was started by Arthur Ryan who amalgamated with ABF. Its business model is based around mum, dad, 4 kids who need to be housed, fed, schooled & clothed on a tight budget. Lost their Irish CEO to Boohoo (also a 2/3 Irish brand). Primark has poached Zara exec to improve quality.
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Dee
05/12/2020 16:21:39 0 0
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By the way, as Primark is the jewel independent subsidiary in the ABF crown, Primark have always felt they had more power.
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04/12/2020 12:48:35 7 12
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Cheap, crap wear it once and bin it fashions for the chav society
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04/12/2020 13:01:37 4 2
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A snobbish comment. I have bought occasional items from Primark and the quality is very reasonable for the price. I am not a chav!
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04/12/2020 12:47:22 9 2
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Dear me, some nasty-minded people criticizing Primark on here. Most I suspect have never set foot in a Primark store. I have been in several; yes they are cheap and not for me, but they cater for a lot of other people. To the person(s) who say it's an Irish company; well yes it is with its HQ in Dublin, but it's a subsidiary of Associated British Foods (ABF) HQ in London.
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04/12/2020 12:50:34 3 2
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It's Penneys in Ireland
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04/12/2020 12:25:57 10 8
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Have you checked where your M & S and JL clothes come from? The same factories I expect.
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04/12/2020 12:50:45 3 1
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Yes I do. Hence my saying I question where they come from. I like most others have many reservations. It is not only clothing but many household items made of fabrics. I try to do my bit by supporting Fair Trade organisations Traidcraft bed linen, hand printed cottons expensive but beautiful.
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04/12/2020 12:20:25 3 8
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Not many overheads when your workforce get paid a bowl of rice for 16 hours work
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04/12/2020 12:51:58 4 2
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Proof ????
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04/12/2020 12:54:18 3 2
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A High Street business model that actually works, Sir Phillip Green & wife sat on their yacht in Monaco please take note.
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04/12/2020 21:39:21 0 0
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Not everyone sells cheap. Poundland, Sports Direct, Primark, Aldi doing fine. Premium brands, not so fine. Different business.
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04/12/2020 12:54:32 2 10
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An appalling company for supply chain employment ethics and environmental standards, this is one brand I would not have missed had it not survived this year. If you can afford to shop elsewhere, but choose not to, please ask yourself how they manage to produce such cheap products and at what cost to other people and the environment
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04/12/2020 12:57:17 4 4
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Your custom will not be missed.
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04/12/2020 13:02:51 4 2
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You could probably as your self the same about your electronic devices especially the one you use to post these comments. A wonder how many have been exploited makeing them ??.
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04/12/2020 13:03:14 5 2
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Same can be said of a lot of supply chains, just because other fashion stores are more expensive, in fact anything you buy, doesn't mean they come from ethical supply chains.
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04/12/2020 12:54:32 2 10
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An appalling company for supply chain employment ethics and environmental standards, this is one brand I would not have missed had it not survived this year. If you can afford to shop elsewhere, but choose not to, please ask yourself how they manage to produce such cheap products and at what cost to other people and the environment
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04/12/2020 12:57:17 4 4
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Your custom will not be missed.
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04/12/2020 12:58:36 0 4
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I would never have given them a single penny of my money for it to be missed
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04/12/2020 12:57:17 4 4
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Your custom will not be missed.
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04/12/2020 12:58:36 0 4
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I would never have given them a single penny of my money for it to be missed
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04/12/2020 11:26:38 40 8
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I am impressed with Primark's attitude to paying suppliers, treatment of staff and responsibility with taxpayer's money. Everything that a well managed and prudent company should be. The acceptable face of capitalism. I am now a stakeholder having bought shares in ABF. I am very happy with my investment at every level and would hope there is enough in the pot for a good staff bonus this Christmas.
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04/12/2020 12:59:58 5 1
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Of all the pictures of people shopping the images of Primark stand out most. Why? Because the queues waiting to enter are distanced and orderly. They seem to be taking the welfare of both staff and customers seriously. I only wish I lived near somewhere that has one of their stores.
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04/12/2020 13:01:07 3 2
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Its funny the amount of people going on about the woes of the people who make the clothes and how they are exploited. Maybe you should check the Device you are using to make these comments as a lit of them are made by an exploited work force. Like the apple building that has suicide nets to stop staff throwing them self's off it and killing them self. ??
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04/12/2020 12:16:24 5 1
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"Rush out and spend money on mediocre clothing you do not NEED"

That's a very elitist statement !! How can you possibly know what people can afford or what they NEED

At least Primark is not owned by some slimeball
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04/12/2020 13:01:36 0 1
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So you've met the family who control Primark/AB Foods/Selfridges etc then?
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04/12/2020 12:48:35 7 12
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Cheap, crap wear it once and bin it fashions for the chav society
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04/12/2020 13:01:37 4 2
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A snobbish comment. I have bought occasional items from Primark and the quality is very reasonable for the price. I am not a chav!
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04/12/2020 12:54:32 2 10
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An appalling company for supply chain employment ethics and environmental standards, this is one brand I would not have missed had it not survived this year. If you can afford to shop elsewhere, but choose not to, please ask yourself how they manage to produce such cheap products and at what cost to other people and the environment
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04/12/2020 13:02:51 4 2
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You could probably as your self the same about your electronic devices especially the one you use to post these comments. A wonder how many have been exploited makeing them ??.
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04/12/2020 13:14:10 0 1
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See reply to MattySW below
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04/12/2020 12:54:32 2 10
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An appalling company for supply chain employment ethics and environmental standards, this is one brand I would not have missed had it not survived this year. If you can afford to shop elsewhere, but choose not to, please ask yourself how they manage to produce such cheap products and at what cost to other people and the environment
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04/12/2020 13:03:14 5 2
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Same can be said of a lot of supply chains, just because other fashion stores are more expensive, in fact anything you buy, doesn't mean they come from ethical supply chains.
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04/12/2020 13:13:56 1 1
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You're quite right, but some things we can do without, others we can't. Cheap clothing people only intend to throw away after short use is something we can do better on. There's no magic bullet, but we can make small differences by avoiding obvious 'bad' brands