Coronavirus: UK got vaccine first because it's 'a better country', says Gavin Williamson
04/12/2020
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The EU says vaccines are not a "football competition" after Education Secretary Gavin Williamson's comment.
And what is even more pathetic is they are boasting about getting a few vials of a German-made vaccine a week or two earlier than other countries. Germany could be getting the first batch, but the truth is they don't need it. Because their government hasn't screwed up everything else about the pandemic, so doesn't need to rush it for either epidemiological or public relations reasons.
Don't forget the entire system is based around this hence we always get the "option" of voting for the same old shiet, just a different election.
They should go back to eton days of fagging and burn twenty quid notes in front of homeless people
At least then they were being honest
At least then they were being honest
If the UK had got the vaccine after the EU countries you'd be the first on here having a whinge, and don't deny it.
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One thing all of this chaos show is that the only benefit to attending Eton & other private education establishments is access to the chumocracy - certainly Bozo & co fail to show evidence of receiving a better education. The chums have certainly done well with contracts out of our govt's failure to deal well with covid. Once they all derided experts now fortunately we still have some.
Oh and of course Barnier and the EU cabal are the grown ups are they!!??
Interesting you used the word 'elect' - I don't think I've ever seen that word associated with Barnier, Von der Leyen, Tusk .....must I go on??
Interesting you used the word 'elect' - I don't think I've ever seen that word associated with Barnier, Von der Leyen, Tusk .....must I go on??
Williamson always sounds like he's upset that he had to cut his pigtails off! He's definately the girlie amongst these bullies. How do such people ever get into Parliament? The people of South Staffordshire have a lot to answer for!
More depressing is that these Eton schoolboys know exactly what there saying and how silly it sounds. But they are not speaking to you or to others like you in Europe, America or elsewhere. They are speaking to a large constituency, rather like Trump voters in the US. And there are alot of them! And they all have a vote!
I've watched the video. He was trying to be amusing. It's an embarrassment only, not a hanging offence. I'm trying to be kind.
Quite. That anybody responsible for the 2020 exams debacle can dare - even in a hair-brained moment of 'light-heartedness' - to claim to any sort of personal or national superiority to our European neighbours (or almost anybody else for that matter, with the usual Trumpian exception) beggars belief. This whining deluded little man needs to be hidden away somewhere where he can't do so much damage.
Boasting is tempting karma or will turn out like our world beating track and trace.
Juvenile politicians
Many a slip between cup and lip we will have to rely on organisation which this Government is not that good at
Juvenile politicians
Many a slip between cup and lip we will have to rely on organisation which this Government is not that good at
Add Coco Hancock to that list as well, all pathetic individuals with not a trace of gravitas. Wonder when they will screw up the vaccine delivery roll out, or will that be the EU's fault as well?
Pot calling kettle black me thinks (get over yourselves remoaners) bl**dy snowflakes.
I am sick to death of people talking down this Country and appearing to want us to fail. However this juvenile behaviour of Ministers shows a complete lack of understanding as to how we are viewed in the world currently. I am a paid up member of the Conservative party but I am becoming increasingly embarrassed by Boris and his ilk. Grow up !
It’s an embarrassment for this country
Very good you just stole what I was going to say
Most MPs just don’t know when to keep their mouths shut
Anyway Williamson would do better to concentrate on the job he is paid to do and then maybe he wouldn’t make such a mess of it
Most MPs just don’t know when to keep their mouths shut
Anyway Williamson would do better to concentrate on the job he is paid to do and then maybe he wouldn’t make such a mess of it
Ubercurmudgeon has lost the argument on Brexit a long time ago.
Very sad to see that continuing bitterness prevails in his life.
Very sad to see that continuing bitterness prevails in his life.
And Williamson is in charge of our education system! Unglalublich!
Automatically incorrect statement as our country has Gavin Williamson in it
Populist froth which detracts from international scientific achievement.
Quite so. Also when we are struggling to persuade people of the great benefits of vaccination and its' safety all these populist idiots like Williamson and Hancock do is hand ammunition to the anti-vaxxers. We clearly followed the EU rules in approving the vaccine. All Williamson and Hancock are doing is creating unfounded doubt about the rigour of MHRA. Time for both to go
It is not populist. Populist is putting UK citizens first for jobs & housing in their own country, not pretending the UK is a race of supermen. It is training our own doctors, it is not allowing the Chinese to buy our best companies, and keeping manufacturing going in the UK.
The only "-ists" I could describe GW remarks as would not be allowed by the mods.
The only "-ists" I could describe GW remarks as would not be allowed by the mods.
Vote for morally weak, mentally deficient populists: get morally weak, mentally deficient populists.
Voters of Britain, you did yourself proud this time. Corbyn was awful but at least there were a couple of brain cells rattling away in the shadow cabinet.
I reckon you could derail a cabinet meeting these days with a piece of paper with "please turn over" written on both sides.
Voters of Britain, you did yourself proud this time. Corbyn was awful but at least there were a couple of brain cells rattling away in the shadow cabinet.
I reckon you could derail a cabinet meeting these days with a piece of paper with "please turn over" written on both sides.
politics is far too important than to be left out of an international emergency..
MHRA may have rushed the approval. It's certainly much faster than I'm used to, having worked in pharma and medical devices, and faster than the EMA and FDA.
And UK government has just given Pfizer immunity to prosecution.
Let's absolutely hope the vaccine doesn't cause any long-term harm, because that's all we can do now because of this idiotic populist chest-beating.
And UK government has just given Pfizer immunity to prosecution.
Let's absolutely hope the vaccine doesn't cause any long-term harm, because that's all we can do now because of this idiotic populist chest-beating.
We look north for the populists, the SNP
Williamson is an idiot. In any other reality he would've been sacked long ago. Its amazing he holds an office of state at all quite frankly
Williamson is an idiot. In any other reality he would've been sacked long ago. Its amazing he holds an office of state at all quite frankly
But who'd take over? Chris Grayling? I suspect his job is actually to make Johnson look less incompetent by comparison.
But who'd take over? Chris Grayling? I suspect his job is actually to make Johnson look less incompetent by comparison.
Agreed. When I saw him on TV today, I said Goodness I thought they'd sacked him already. Now would do. This Tory Arrogance is deeply disturbing.
Let's hope this pathetic Tory Arrogance does not have adverse effect on the importation of vital medical supplies like vaccines AFTER their stupidity supreme project - BREXIT. It is a genuine worry.
Johnson took care to hand pick associates incapable of challenging his own scant grasp on reality. With Williamson he went too far and we ended up with an international laughing stock in Defence and later a deplorable Education Secretary whose ignorance caused great harm to young people.
The Cabinet is full of pathetic sycophants. In fact it's led by one.
Indeed, the ministers in this government were appointed based on loyalty to Boris, not competence. Every department has failed the country but they are also shameless and corrupt so just don't care.
And to think he is in charge of education. Methinks he should be back at school. The guy should have been sacked long ago. Now he says that school kids taking exams should be given notice of what will be on the papers, unbelievable.
wish I was as stupid , great salary, perks, fantastic pension... If he's an Idiot, I'm a monkey.
This Gov is full of incompetents. One can only hope that their critics are not proven correct with regard to their haste in approving an vaccine that they are now guilty of over hyping. What will happen when case numbers continue to rise, as they will, because the vaccine was not designed to stop or interrupt transmissions, nor indeed does it claim to stop people becoming infected.
He's my MP and I fully concur with that statement. This is the kind of drivel we get on the odd occasion we see him. Sadly his schoolboy-nationalism goes down well with the particular demographic here so we're stuck with him.
he has been sacked once, for leaking COBRA discussions, very patriotic and loyal
He certainly is. However, the deeply worrying thing is that the entire present UK political system (on all sides) is also full of idiots. They’re almost all total sh*te!! I have no confidence in any of them sadly.
Williamson was sacked as Minister for Defence for revealing secrets last year.
absolutely. And all this jingoistic nonsense is nausea inducing.
All Eton elites in government told a load of tosh sooner their gone as death figures announced today I read it closer to 70,000 not 60,000 just tell us the truth instead of talking tosh
They can't sack Williamson, he's there to make the others look good.
Williamson shouldn't even be elected as a member of a committee. Perhaps minister of lack of education and maturity
Guess in another age you would be applauding Dianne Abbott for the very same slip.
The fact that Williamson, Jennrick, Hancockup, Patel and Shamer are all still in jobs blows my mind. Then again, their boss is the ultimate pratt De Pfeffel Johnson.
I was blocked using the word idiot the other day....I wonder why this got through
Williamson is the new Grayling. Or should that be Patel, (Jesus, Home Secretary, is there really no one better!) Hancock. And Pinocchio is the captain of this bunch of incompetent chumocracy. Only good at lining Tory chums pockets. As a Tory MP said 'there's no tall poppies in the cabinet'
yest he is really stupid and thinks his nationalist damaging slogans are helping his party.
He was sacked by May. But the eton chums stick together and Boris brought him back. A total eejit.
The trouble is that Boris's Brexit pals are the Second XI in British politicians. Or maybe the Third.
Yep don't forget May sacked him for incompetance when he was Defence Minister
Yip. Just like the other Tory creeps sent to the background - Patel Mogg Francois
Mind you Hancock, Johnson and the other master Gove, must be in the queue...
Being an idiot is a minimum requirement for serving in this cabinet
He was Chief Whip. He knows where the bodies are buried. But I agree he should have gone ages ago.
The UK has better medical experts than the US, France or Germany? Ridiculous.
No, not better that the USA but the UK 'has better medical experts' than France, Germany etc. The UK has three medical shools in the top ten globally, the USA has 6 and Sweden 1.
someone should remind Mr Williamson that the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was created by a German company, founded by scientists of Turkish origin, in partnership with an American distributor, and is being manufactured in Belgium before being transported across France to reach the UK
He is not talking about who made it, but about the regulators who approved it!
Red carefully before ranting!
Red carefully before ranting!
...before being held at the Farage-Garage (aka Kent) whilst all the liquid nitrogen coolant boils off... Whoops!
So what you are saying is that there were very few or no politicians involved other than to carp.
Well we will all know who to blame when it all goes belly up.
only until Jan 1st 2021...
Agreed, so why will it be used in the UK first? - simple answer is that the EU citizens cannot use it until the EU officials have gone through all their lovely red tape.
You copied and pasted that. Any original thoughts of your own?
Excellent comment sir. I wonder also though, has testing been good enough, are we the lab rats?
100% right - Williamson is a pillock.
Translation:
"My mates were lying yesterday, it wasn't enabled by Brexit, but my dad could beat up your dad!"
When will be rid of these overgrown schoolboys? Williamson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, and Johnson all talk like they're still running around in shorts, playing conkers, and pulling girls' pigtails. Barnier must wonder if its worth bothering with a country that can't elect grown-ups as leaders.
"My mates were lying yesterday, it wasn't enabled by Brexit, but my dad could beat up your dad!"
When will be rid of these overgrown schoolboys? Williamson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, and Johnson all talk like they're still running around in shorts, playing conkers, and pulling girls' pigtails. Barnier must wonder if its worth bothering with a country that can't elect grown-ups as leaders.
And what is even more pathetic is they are boasting about getting a few vials of a German-made vaccine a week or two earlier than other countries. Germany could be getting the first batch, but the truth is they don't need it. Because their government hasn't screwed up everything else about the pandemic, so doesn't need to rush it for either epidemiological or public relations reasons.
Pfizer is an American Company, established in New York in 1849.... these are simple facts and easy to find, errors like this negate your overall argument.
Germany does need it and their regulators are working on it.
Don't lie to try and make your point!
Don't lie to try and make your point!
plus the vaccine was developed by Turkish immigrants. Nice full-circle to Farage, Johnson and all those lies about the EU in 2016.
"Germany could be getting the first batch, but the truth is they don't need it."
The families of the 1300 Germans that have died this week might beg to differ
The families of the 1300 Germans that have died this week might beg to differ
germany have closed all pubs, restaurants etc until mid jan. they only log a covid death if doctor can prove covid caused it and ours is they died with it. all similar countries have done this the same , stop moaning
Actually, the Germans do need it as infection rates have been rising there too.
In our media is was discussed if Britain is the canary in the mine with most other countries watching how things turn out before starting their own vaccination process.
I got used to the restrictions. At least now one no longer has to make excuses for staying clear of certain people.
I got used to the restrictions. At least now one no longer has to make excuses for staying clear of certain people.
This is the best country in the world, so what's the problem?
The uk is not a country so thats physically impossible!
England is not the best at much either, christ have you seen the English government!
I would not be patriotic or proud if I was English, I'd be embarrassed and in hibernation!
England is not the best at much either, christ have you seen the English government!
I would not be patriotic or proud if I was English, I'd be embarrassed and in hibernation!
Aye, right. We are governed by the odious Tories, who always, ALWAYS have pound signs in their eyes when making any decisions which effect our wellbeing. No wonder so many Scots want to cut themselves loose.
I agree that we've got the best country in the world but am utterly flummoxed as to why we have the s**tiest politicians in the world too!!!!!!
There should be 2 t's.
It is down to the electorate.......choose from what is on offer, or if you think you could do better stand for election yourself. Judging by the number complaining the ballot paper could be a mile long!
Please define best?
I have seen Boris on the TV and even from 17,000 km away he looked like a right prat.
With a leader like that you need no enemies.
I have seen Boris on the TV and even from 17,000 km away he looked like a right prat.
With a leader like that you need no enemies.
Wow these comments from Williamson must have really angered all the woke keyboard warriors! Sometimes it’s tough being the best, don’t worry snowflakes!
if you were to 'wake' up, you would be aware that this vaccine is a collaboration, a wonderful one, between Turkish immigrant scientists in Germany, with Belgian manufacturing and US support.
As has been very succinctly put by another hys poster
As has been very succinctly put by another hys poster
I don't think 'Snowflakes' has been a 'cool right wing jibe' since 2014 mate. Get with the times
Is it possible you have misunderstood the subject matter of the article.
Yes, they are seemingly so tied up in their own bs they don't even recognise it when they're spewing it !!!
Well said Picard apparently as lockdown 2 ended then clowns ???? in downing st announcement of a vaccine more a free fall to spread the virus ??
Does the UK do some really great work? Yes, of course. Are we leagues ahead of our closest European neighbours? No, and it certainly shouldn't be 'unpatriotic' to say so.
Also, all we did in this case was essentially go shopping
Turkish immigrant scientists in Germany, Belgian manufacturing and US support. As with so much science, we do so much better when we collaborate as widely as possible
Also, all we did in this case was essentially go shopping
Turkish immigrant scientists in Germany, Belgian manufacturing and US support. As with so much science, we do so much better when we collaborate as widely as possible
Agreed and what is so sad is that in Science we had such a great reputation for collaboration and leadership before Brexit. In fact we were the country setting the standards and were at the centre of most projects. Breaks my heart to see this name calling imbecile representing us.
Totally agree. Pulling out of EU scientific & research organisations is destructive and thinking that offering replacement funding makes it okay misses the point. The best science (or research in any field) is achieved by collaboration, so why destroy our science & research links with our nearest neighbours? If the pandemic has taught us anything it is that international cooperation is essential.
Perhaps countries like Norway and Belgium have a natural advantage here. They never had an Empire, and have thus been spared all the phoney nostalgia which still infects the UK.
We should remind this gentleman and his gang that thanks to your government we are number 1!! in what? death toll in Europe!
'All we did was essentially go shopping'. Brilliant! thanks!
Probably more involved than just shopping to be far, as it involved a series of trials and foresight to get into the right places at outset, so credit where credits due.
But stupid to crow about it so early, they obviously haven’t leaned from the world beating test and trace slogan which was an utter joke.
But stupid to crow about it so early, they obviously haven’t leaned from the world beating test and trace slogan which was an utter joke.
If you want to play the migrant card then why are there so many migrants already in the EU risking their lives to get to the UK?
Did he steal trumps speech, we have the best experts better than all the other countries has a very trumpian vibe
The Americans are largely of English decent so its no surprise!
We Won This "By a Lot" and "A Lot of People are saying this" Said whilst pointing finger to imaginary friend in the crowd
OOH, BETTY, I think I've done a whoopsie!
If a government minister didn't believe the UK was the best place in the world, why would they want to be in government...
For the money and the opportunity to roll the public, no other reason.
Maybe to do the best they can to soften the blow that brexit will cause?
They inflicted that on us. They should clear up the mess of their own making.
They inflicted that on us. They should clear up the mess of their own making.
Surely a reason to go into politics is the realisation that we are *not* the best in the world and desire to make it so? Otherwise, politics is just a platform for poorly educated windbags.... oh, wait...
What a jingoistic moron. Shall we now compare our governments handling of COVID to say erm NEW ZEALAND? Who’s got the better leadership? It certainly ain’t you lot mate!
sod off Kiwi, your country isn't even relevant
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Exactly !! As well, whatever happened to this "world beating" track and trace system ?? - a complete farce ….
NZ and Aus did well because they imposed quarantine, pure and simple.
If they'd imposed that here you lot would have moaned it is spoilt your skiing holidays
If they'd imposed that here you lot would have moaned it is spoilt your skiing holidays
Don’t think a snowflake should be turning over any rocks in New Zealand - it’s not pretty - leave them out of your random comparisons
OOH, BETTY, I think I've done a whoopsie!
OOH, BETTY, I think I've done a whoopsie!
Translation:
"My mates were lying yesterday, it wasn't enabled by Brexit, but my dad could beat up your dad!"
When will be rid of these overgrown schoolboys? Williamson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, and Johnson all talk like they're still running around in shorts, playing conkers, and pulling girls' pigtails. Barnier must wonder if its worth bothering with a country that can't elect grown-ups as leaders.
"My mates were lying yesterday, it wasn't enabled by Brexit, but my dad could beat up your dad!"
When will be rid of these overgrown schoolboys? Williamson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, and Johnson all talk like they're still running around in shorts, playing conkers, and pulling girls' pigtails. Barnier must wonder if its worth bothering with a country that can't elect grown-ups as leaders.
My dad is bigger than Williamson’s dad.
My dad is stronger than Williamson's dad.
We may have some of the better experts but we also have the dumbest Politicians
Goodness me what ridiculous juvenile behaviour. Its killed 60000 under this lot so i would stop boasting tbh
Does this man realise that this vaccine has to shipped to the UK after Brexit. I have always considered him a cretin since was sacked as Minister of Defence. This gloating statement just confirms it.
LOL ROFL LOL
Brexit-UK saved from pandemic by Covid-19 vaccine developed in Germany abd manufactured in Belgium.
Tory Trumpist BrexiteEr government PROPAGANDA under instructions from Joseph Goebbels MURDOCH and News Corp hides fact that Brexit-UK Care home residents are volunteered on behalf of elderly to be Phase 4 trials of the Phizer-BionTech vaccine.
LOL ROFL LOL
Brexit-UK saved from pandemic by Covid-19 vaccine developed in Germany abd manufactured in Belgium.
Tory Trumpist BrexiteEr government PROPAGANDA under instructions from Joseph Goebbels MURDOCH and News Corp hides fact that Brexit-UK Care home residents are volunteered on behalf of elderly to be Phase 4 trials of the Phizer-BionTech vaccine.
LOL ROFL LOL
We are allowed to think we are the best in the world, everyone is allowed an opinion
He can think that. Others are allowed to prove that he’s a liar
But sensible opinions are important>
Indeed but some people should keep that opinion to themselves!
Verbal filter yeah!
Verbal filter yeah!
Clinical Research into Covid and the vaccine development is multi country enabled and it’s just embarrassing that the Uk govt is trying to link it to Brexit by silly statements and lies . It is a triumph for non nationalistic science and post Brexit we will be worse off in this area than we currently are with less access to international research funding , staff and data .
some scientists came under pressure to work quickly so as to give the government a good news story
doesnt make the vaccine less safe
doesnt make the UK response so far, any safer
doesnt make the vaccine less safe
doesnt make the UK response so far, any safer
How about focusing on education Gavin? It is in a poor state right now, and I can't remember you release any statement on that for the past 12 months, let alone providing any kind of leadership.
He's right, we do have some of the best scientists in this country. Because (a) they were educated before he became Education Secretary and (b) a lot of good scientists come to this country because of the research institutions set up long ago. In general, this country is immensely lucky to have the resources its history provides. We even had a bespoke place in the EU until his party threw it away.
The real question is why, if this country is so great, does he and his kind want to turn it into the dog-eat-dog hellhole that is the United States?
What contratitory rubbish you spout. Some scientists came to this country because of our excellent world reputation for higher education and research, many home grown scientists stayed for the same reason.
And, unfortunately, along with our industry and financial services, most will be forced to relocate to the EU or further afield - the Bexit brain drain.
Luckily the quality of science isn’t really linked to this cretin. He couldn’t understand what they are doing
We voted to leave remember.
Yeah just to point out they dont have Covid issues, they are also an island, spot similaritites
In your case our doubt it
In your case you need to admit, you were lied to bud
In your case our doubt it
In your case you need to admit, you were lied to bud
Well said Colin.
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At least in Kiwi land they don't die like flies after a shot of insect spray. I bet those 60,000 odd brits would have preferred to have been in NZ when the pandemic started.
It is relevant that the nation's people survive. 60,000 is a middle size town.
In the US with over 250,00 that is a large town.
It is relevant that the nation's people survive. 60,000 is a middle size town.
In the US with over 250,00 that is a large town.
More right wing spew from a bloke who takes the name of an xenophobic mass murderer. racist comment too. must be a Tory
In which terms? National debt? Number of fat / poor kids? Number of football world cups? Amount of rain?
Such a rude little boy...
Traditional English charm? Don’t think a Celt would be so witty.
More jingoistic moronic claptrap - grow up!
Speaking of morons. . hello "Colin Bomber Harris" and thank you for that erm. . . 'contribution'! Now maybe you should get back to reading The Sun .. .
What a way to start vital international trade negotiations needed after we break fully with the EU when some of your citizens make such stupid comments. If we keep up this type of comments it then becomes equally fair that outgoing nations such as New Zealand will respond the same way to our negotiators , and with some justification.
Total embarassment these people are.
Total embarassment these people are.
It’s you and your obnoxious views that are not relevant.
Neither is ours. Great Britain died years ago and its time everyone woke up to that. We are just a minnow in a very large pond.
"Colin Bomber Harris" was a character created by Monty Python to portray a person so comically stupid that he would even fight himself alone in a boxing ring...
Congratulations on choosing such an appropriate handle!...
Congratulations on choosing such an appropriate handle!...
An attitude that the real Bomber Harris would treat with the contempt that I do.
Nor will ours be from 01/01/2021.
Not that it has much relevance now.
You IRA. BTW?
Not that it has much relevance now.
You IRA. BTW?
Seriously, you think the UK is 'relevant'... funny
so rude
This cabinet is so thick. All bravado and no substance. An international embarrassment.
Agreed-Matt Hancock prize clown-should know the detail of the situation by now. Jeremy Hunt much better but not by much.
I'm not sure about that. You have to be pretty clever to pass the Eton College King Scholarship examinations. And Richi is no dummy either.
More Tory Bull Shit!
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They've a long way to go to match the bull shit spewed daily by the left.
Because it's absolutely bang on and nobody anywhere could remove that comment and feel like they've done their job... their ineptitude is staggering.
Well Williamson has just handed other nations a reason to put the UK to the back of the queue...arrogant numpty.
I think you mean "another reason", not just "a" reason.
It’s almost embarrassing that they feel the need to make such comments
Not a great advert for the public school system
Not a great advert for the public school system
Hungary must have the best regulators of all. They issued an emergency use authorisation for the Sputnik-V vaccine last week.
Space station
Monitor? What's one of those?
It was dangerously nationalistic drivel, oozing from the mouth of a Brexiter. Despicable.
It was embarrassing. The man represents the UK. Wouldn’t be so bad if he was a vaguely competent Education secretary but he blew that one in the summer !
Keep licking those boots, sycophant.
Williamson's utterances carry the gravitas of a fireplace salesman.
I'm having that phrase! Thank you.
But a firepLACE Salesman does, as you can see have laces. Greyfriars Gavin is, as we've seen, not equipped for knotty problems so he would need slip-ons ... or should that be slip-ups? His, of course, are the best slip-ups, 'better than Belgium's, better than ...' Are you really being fair to that rep?
I should advise these idiots at to what to say, then again a child of 9 could also do likewise:
Correct response, "whilst it is good news to hear that people in the UK will benefit quickly form the work of all involved, it is hoped that everyone will have the opportunity to benefit from this positive step soon; after all, this is about people, not borders or politics". It really isn't hard.
Correct response, "whilst it is good news to hear that people in the UK will benefit quickly form the work of all involved, it is hoped that everyone will have the opportunity to benefit from this positive step soon; after all, this is about people, not borders or politics". It really isn't hard.
Same comedic style Boris used on Have I Got News For You for years. - go’s down well with the Tory faithful and got Boris to be PM eventually.
I was under the misapprehension that a level of intelligence was required to be a minister in this government. I have proven to be completely wrong over and over again.
Gavin Willianson is a 'world beating' individual in this particular area.
Gavin Willianson is a 'world beating' individual in this particular area.
Gavin Williamson - what a no-hoper and unfit for high office making unguarded comments like that. He needs to keep his public mouth shut and stick to his brief i.e educational matters, especially after the exam shambles earlier this year.
Williamson is a complete clown, who fails miserably at everything he does
Just like Hancock yesterday stating it got approved quickly due to being out the EU - total lies
Government is a disgrace to the country
Just like Hancock yesterday stating it got approved quickly due to being out the EU - total lies
Government is a disgrace to the country
Law number one of The 48 Laws of Power. Never Outshine The Master.
Think you might find that statement was made as a suggestion by a member of the press
who voted them in?
we voted them in
just to confirm that
who voted them in?
we voted them in
one last time.
who voted them in?
we voted them in
we voted them in
just to confirm that
who voted them in?
we voted them in
one last time.
who voted them in?
we voted them in
A better country?
One where a minister has to lie about certifications rules
One where the PM lies regularly
One where a scotch egg is considered a substantial meal
Williamson you and I have a different opinion of what makes a country better country than others.
Better than who? Somalia? and by what measure
One where a minister has to lie about certifications rules
One where the PM lies regularly
One where a scotch egg is considered a substantial meal
Williamson you and I have a different opinion of what makes a country better country than others.
Better than who? Somalia? and by what measure
Yeah but Calder, Jonathan read these words in a newspaper and is simply regurgitating them because he thinks it shows how "informed" he is
I'm sure Jonathan has a whole repertoire of gutter rag expressions in his vocabulary, maybe he could share some more?
I'm sure Jonathan has a whole repertoire of gutter rag expressions in his vocabulary, maybe he could share some more?
We may have some of the better experts but we also have the dumbest Politicians
Boris, i know you re struggling for subs as your squad is severly depleted but please get that idiot Williamson off the field. How many own goals does he have to score before you see he should be joining Grayling on the "has never been competent bench".
Law 1 of the 48 Laws of Power is Never Outshine the Master. Boris needs the people around him to be more inept than he is. Not an easy task. Apologies for posting this in the next post by mistake.
Do you mean that he is worse than Failing Grayling? Is that possible.
Aren't all the cabinet on that bench?
Williamson makes me sick! The vaccine was such nice news until he couldn't abstain to make it political ammunition. Claims the EU held up the vaccine is rubbish and has been stated by UK govt experts. Also, maybe he should think about how many foreign medical doctors/scientists (EU and non-EU) are actually working in the UK/on the vaccine. When it comes to CV19, we actually are in this together.
He's right, we do have some of the best scientists in this country. Because (a) they were educated before he became Education Secretary and (b) a lot of good scientists come to this country because of the research institutions set up long ago. In general, this country is immensely lucky to have the resources its history provides. We even had a bespoke place in the EU until his party threw it away.
Because their chums and party sponsors will make more money.
The rest of us don't matter. The elite got their leave vote in 2016, and now we're stuck with it. At least until we re-join. They can't keep us away from the international community forever!
The rest of us don't matter. The elite got their leave vote in 2016, and now we're stuck with it. At least until we re-join. They can't keep us away from the international community forever!
That is the one of the mains aims of Brexit. People didn’t want the UK becoming a small state in the United States of Europe.
it is great because it contains England, Scotland and Wales; Size not quality. Not any more.
... but at least the food is better there.
I assume because there’s money to be made by selling institutions and underpaying employees.
Hear Hear. Come January when Biden takes over Boris will take over driving the clown car and the worlds laughter at ineptitude will swivel around to us. Prepare to be the new laughing stock of the world.
Is that the same United States who lead the world in research (highest h index) and has the second highest spend per capita on R&D in the world?
Britain has the highest COVID death rate in Europe. Brexit or our own expertise haven’t prevented that. Gavin’s a total plonker.
No, UK has the most deaths, not the highest death rate (as we have one of the largest populations). I will admit we were not that good (I think we were the 5th worst death rate) but certainly not the highest.
Actually, Belgium has the highest covid death rate in Europe per million population, followed by San Marino, Spain and Italy.
How can a country that isn't in Europe have the highest Covid rates in Europe?
We have one of the highest death rates in Europe mainly because of the many thousands of deaths in our care homes.
Isn't it a coincidence that our approving the vaccine came on the same day as a report on the possible inappropriate use of 'DNR' notices ?
Isn't it a coincidence that our approving the vaccine came on the same day as a report on the possible inappropriate use of 'DNR' notices ?
If you take the numbers that are spewed out by the EU machine. For instance,the deaths in care homes in France are not included in their total.
We are 4th, behind Belgium, Spain and Italy, as of Dec 3rd.
Not quite World-beating but close.
Not quite World-beating but close.
Belgium has 1,456 deaths per million and is the country in Europe with the highest death rate. Stop spreading lies about the UK.
So we've approve the vaccine quickly because we have better regulators.
So presumably we are using the German/US vaccine which was developed faster than the one in the UK becasue they have better scientists and are just better than us?
What a muppet
So presumably we are using the German/US vaccine which was developed faster than the one in the UK becasue they have better scientists and are just better than us?
What a muppet
the man should put engage his brain before putting his mouth in gear.........wait a minute what brain???
I can approve *any* vaccine - yet to be developed, for any disease or disorder yet to be diagnosed - without even knowing what it is, does, whether it has been tested.
Here: "I heartily approve of and endorse this product and / or brand and / or vaccine" - (c) The Simpsons
Ergo, I am the best scientist ever.
Here: "I heartily approve of and endorse this product and / or brand and / or vaccine" - (c) The Simpsons
Ergo, I am the best scientist ever.
"Oh, we're just better than everyone else"... That's a horrific thing for a politician to say on the world stage!
If I walked into a pub, stood on a chair, and shouted "I'm better than all of you", I would expect negative consequences. When we are currently in a position where we would like to negotiate trade agreements etc worldwide, saying "We're better than you" is... counterproductive at best!
If I walked into a pub, stood on a chair, and shouted "I'm better than all of you", I would expect negative consequences. When we are currently in a position where we would like to negotiate trade agreements etc worldwide, saying "We're better than you" is... counterproductive at best!
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Time for Williamson to be replaced with another idiot!
Let's hope that other countries follow us in authorising the Pfizer vaccine - if it fails authorisation for whatever reason in other countries then we start to get into yet another difficult position
If ever there was a Government and its opposition that would put people off of politics for life it has to be the ones we have now.
Our politicians seem to live in a different world to the rest of us!
Our politicians seem to live in a different world to the rest of us!
Lots of UK haters around.
The UK appears to live rent free in the heads of many an infuriated left wing snowflake. Removed
The UK appears to live rent free in the heads of many an infuriated left wing snowflake. Removed
Nobody on the left 'hates' the UK - we just hate this infuriatingly incompetent and selfish government. Keep licking those boots.
I agree that we've got the best country in the world but am utterly flummoxed as to why we have the s**tiest politicians in the world too!!!!!!
You mean 3 t’s
Gavin Williamson crowing about competencies!!!!!
The irony is too, too much.
The irony is too, too much.
Gavin is the guy who screwed up the exam results, hasn't really had a proper job, finds it difficult to read from a government statement and then thinks its ok to think Britain is superior to other nations. What a small minded person he is. Why is he still in his job? What is his job? Education? History rewritten again? heaven help us
You will find the exam results were screwed up by some of the teachers who decided to bump up their pupils' results to look good on the league tables.
1. More top grades than ever before.
2. More first choice acceptance than ever before.
3. Higher growth among poorer students than the years prior.
4. The choice to appeal or sit an exam if you disagreed, at no cost to you.
Explain how that would be anything other than a success story in any other year.
2. More first choice acceptance than ever before.
3. Higher growth among poorer students than the years prior.
4. The choice to appeal or sit an exam if you disagreed, at no cost to you.
Explain how that would be anything other than a success story in any other year.
WHat an idiotic statement to make , the fool is so in his Eton bubble
I love the fact that (at time of writing) 124 people have agreed with you ........ on something entirely wrong and easily shown to be wrong!
What a crass statement by yet another inept government minister. Does Johnson surround himself with idiots to try and look good?
he does but even that "cunning plan" by Baldric doesnt work he still looks well out of his depth (and that's me being kind)
No. These are the best he's got.
Yep and with this bunch of incompetents even Bunter looks good!
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I am sometimes tempted to think he does, but I suspect that would take more brain power than he possesses
Yes but it doesn’t work
Possibly
Or possibly Johnson genuinely thinks his hand-picked Cabinet is 'world-beating'
Or possibly Johnson genuinely thinks his hand-picked Cabinet is 'world-beating'
More jingoistic nonsense from the BREXIT campaign party (lets face it they have been 'world beating' at anything else). The MHRA appraised the vaccine under EU rules as this is the law. That they did it so quickly represents a lot of hard work by the team and may be a good thing but I worry speed could be a bit of an own goal if it affects public confidence in the vaccine.
Check the fact-checker ;)
Rees-Mogg said that we could approve this "because we are out of EU" - despite the EU rules still applying.
This was approved under the EU rule, which - as he well knows - have the "emergency" clause.
But they won't stand for facts or laws stand in the way of jingoistic rhetoric - not while there's an audience to lap it up (albeit only on the front bench and in the DM)
Rees-Mogg said that we could approve this "because we are out of EU" - despite the EU rules still applying.
This was approved under the EU rule, which - as he well knows - have the "emergency" clause.
But they won't stand for facts or laws stand in the way of jingoistic rhetoric - not while there's an audience to lap it up (albeit only on the front bench and in the DM)
Thank Christ for an international community of scientists sound enough to collaborate beyond the petty hyperbole of Williamsons'
This is the person responsible for education in the UK. If a student had said this in public, that young person would have been firmly rebuked by the school community. But this person will still retain his position, according to recent governmental form (Patel). A disgrace to his position and an embarrassment to this country.
What a wally Williamson is. Why tweak their noses as we are closing in on a deal. The EU & Covid also have nothing to do with his brief. He should be concentrating on the failures of the Dept of Ed.
Translation:
"My mates were lying yesterday, it wasn't enabled by Brexit, but my dad could beat up your dad!"
When will be rid of these overgrown schoolboys? Williamson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, and Johnson all talk like they're still running around in shorts, playing conkers, and pulling girls' pigtails. Barnier must wonder if its worth bothering with a country that can't elect grown-ups as leaders.
"My mates were lying yesterday, it wasn't enabled by Brexit, but my dad could beat up your dad!"
When will be rid of these overgrown schoolboys? Williamson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, and Johnson all talk like they're still running around in shorts, playing conkers, and pulling girls' pigtails. Barnier must wonder if its worth bothering with a country that can't elect grown-ups as leaders.
There's some merit in that statement in the sense that it is a correct assessment, not that the actions were right or descent
Except Williamson is the product of State education. Doesn't matter where or how they were educated, they all behave like little schoolboys. Total embarrassment.
OOH, BETTY, I think I've done a whoopsie!
Seriously, what an idiotic thing to say. Almost Trumpian in it's crass stupidity. We didn't produce the first vaccine. Our Oxford vaccine isn't as effective as others and they messed up the trial.
I am well travelled and I can tell you Mr Williamson, that this country is not better than others. In fact it's the worst, most corrupt one I spend time in. By a distance.
And he's the education sec.
I am well travelled and I can tell you Mr Williamson, that this country is not better than others. In fact it's the worst, most corrupt one I spend time in. By a distance.
And he's the education sec.
Oh dear?
Best Country in Europe?
The only thing the UK is to[ of is having the largest hit to GDP of any European Country.
Tory Ministers seem to have forgotten we are in the transition period.
They also need to remember the manufacturer of the Vaccine is German and the scientists who created it are Turkish Migrants!
Best Country in Europe?
The only thing the UK is to[ of is having the largest hit to GDP of any European Country.
Tory Ministers seem to have forgotten we are in the transition period.
They also need to remember the manufacturer of the Vaccine is German and the scientists who created it are Turkish Migrants!
What's the problem - he's right. We got clinical approval for the vaccine first so proves we did that better than everyone else. Why not big it up and gloat a bit? And as a result, we'll be vaccinated before everyone else and start getting back to some sort of normal more quickly.
So why insult the people who devised, developed and made the vaccine - none of it our doing!
What an odd way to measure betterness! When our infection rates are better than the best we will be better maybe. Along way down the road!
All under EU regulations . Just like Hungary. And the approval fortunately had nothing to do with the UK government.
Gloat over having something delivered first? How embarrassing is that? If anybody has reason to gloat it would be the German scientists whose brilliance and dedication invented it. Thank goodness they seem to be too modest to indulge in such demeaning behaviour.
'Big it up and gloat a bit'.
Bloody hell, I've heard it all now, what a ****...........?
Bloody hell, I've heard it all now, what a ****...........?
Unfortunate ill considered comment from an unfortunate, ill considered politician. There is no best country, all haves their pluses and minuses. This guy is one of our BIG minuses.
I agree that we've got the best country in the world but am utterly flummoxed as to why we have the s**tiest politicians in the world too!!!!!!
"choose from what is on offer, or if you think you could do better stand for election yourself"
1) The majority of what's on offer is terrible
2) Most votes make no difference anyway due to the electoral system
3) I would make a terrible MP. I would make a terrible F1 driver, but that doesn't mean I can't criticise bad F1 drivers or bad MPs
1) The majority of what's on offer is terrible
2) Most votes make no difference anyway due to the electoral system
3) I would make a terrible MP. I would make a terrible F1 driver, but that doesn't mean I can't criticise bad F1 drivers or bad MPs
And every one probably better than those we have in the Cabinet.
I did. But the sheeple voted for the same two parties that their grandparents voted for despite both candidates being party yes men.
It’s the two party system that needs fixing. There are plenty of great candidates who want to represent their local area but they always loose out to candidates who put their party first.
It’s not down to the 21st century electorate left with Victorian parties
It’s the two party system that needs fixing. There are plenty of great candidates who want to represent their local area but they always loose out to candidates who put their party first.
It’s not down to the 21st century electorate left with Victorian parties
Unbelievably juvenile! Oh wait, what else is to be expected from this government.
"My mates were lying yesterday, it wasn't enabled by Brexit, but my dad could beat up your dad!"
When will be rid of these overgrown schoolboys? Williamson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, and Johnson all talk like they're still running around in shorts, playing conkers, and pulling girls' pigtails. Barnier must wonder if its worth bothering with a country that can't elect grown-ups as leaders.