Cyber-warning for festive shoppers
04/12/2020 | news | technology | 40
Online shoppers are being warned of the risks of cyber-fraud during the festive season.
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04/12/2020 11:54:44 3 0
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how do you access 2FA
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04/12/2020 12:18:07 1 0
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They have set up guides linked on their website to help https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/cyberaware/home#action-4 or you can google how to set up 2FA for the different services.
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04/12/2020 12:29:28 1 2
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Some banks, card, force it on you. But insist you own a mobile phone. Makes it useless. Needs big revision.
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04/12/2020 11:56:41 5 1
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Perhaps they are planning on shutting the internet at Christmas ? I mean who needs a gag when all they need to do is pull the plug.
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04/12/2020 12:00:37 16 0
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Cyber fraud is not just for Christmas.
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04/12/2020 12:15:36 16 1
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Shop at reputed websites, and for Heaven sake DONT Click any Links
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04/12/2020 16:43:42 6 0
bbc
half-advice

you probably already know, that when you hover your mouse over a link, in the bottom left hand corner, there is a preview of the link you're about to click

if the link says www.hsbc.com/userlogin

it's probably safe

if it says

bit.ly/32452345?=authloginw4w538765

it probably isn't
1
04/12/2020 11:54:44 3 0
bbc
how do you access 2FA
5
04/12/2020 12:18:07 1 0
bbc
They have set up guides linked on their website to help https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/cyberaware/home#action-4 or you can google how to set up 2FA for the different services.
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04/12/2020 12:27:11 18 1
bbc
Gchq shound be detecting & taking down these scammers. Not just giving feeble warnings for government to publish. Puting all the trouble, difficulty, caution, in the way of the ordinary users. Millions of whom will have no concept of what the advice is talking about, or even ever see it. Millions have no tv licence, do not watch it.

Scammers need dealing with as we do terrorists. Bigger threat.
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No
04/12/2020 13:13:02 10 0
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Agree. This is organised crime or funding for terrorism
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04/12/2020 13:44:16 2 1
bbc
This is thievery on a massive scale. They are criminals; parasites who prey on the vulnerable and unsuspecting. No fine or paltry prison sentence will be enough to discourage such a practice so we, law-abiding people, need to up the ante.
Lock up the thief for life, and put him to useful work for the state. If he refuses, let him starve. Confiscate all his assets - everything he owns. Everything.
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04/12/2020 16:41:49 0 0
bbc
it's a shared responsibility...

unfortunately, the government has a resputation for getting things wrong
1
04/12/2020 11:54:44 3 0
bbc
how do you access 2FA
7
04/12/2020 12:29:28 1 2
bbc
Some banks, card, force it on you. But insist you own a mobile phone. Makes it useless. Needs big revision.
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05/12/2020 15:13:03 1 0
bbc
I own a mobile phone but I live in an area with no mobile signal so I can't use 2FA because I cannot receive the authentication text. My bank refuses to use anything other than text to a mobile to send the code. When I point out that texts can be sent to landlines they refuse to help. I lodged an official complaint but their attitude is simply one of "that's our policy … if you don't like it …"
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04/12/2020 12:29:50 10 2
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That's the Spirt put all the onus on the end user, who would ever have thought it..
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04/12/2020 12:47:46 18 0
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The onus has to be partly on the user. A site can be fully secure, but if the end user is using the same password they use everywhere else then that's not good!
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04/12/2020 16:40:23 2 0
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who has responsibility for keeping your keys secure when you're out shopping
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04/12/2020 12:29:50 10 2
bbc
That's the Spirt put all the onus on the end user, who would ever have thought it..
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04/12/2020 12:47:46 18 0
bbc
The onus has to be partly on the user. A site can be fully secure, but if the end user is using the same password they use everywhere else then that's not good!
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04/12/2020 15:12:19 0 0
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Thanks Richard appreciated.
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04/12/2020 12:49:53 5 0
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One of the biggest problems is using the same password between sites. Site 1 gets hacked. These hacked details can then be used to access Sites 2 and 3 which may be perfectly reputable and fully secure.
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04/12/2020 13:01:09 24 1
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Cyber fraud is ever present and not just at Christmas. Having robust passwords is key swell as having different passwords for each website. I had some maggot ring yesterday saying he was fro Amazon and that my Prime account need to be updated etc (I don't have a Prime account) so I tested him to tell me my name...he couldn't so I told him to foxtrot oscar in the strongest possible terms.
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04/12/2020 13:11:56 14 0
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I would wish from more help from service providers. As an old git I regularly seem to get "silent" phone calls or - like Finkelstein - calls about a service I haven't got. When I report these to BT, there is a limited number of details I can include - even after I have dialled 1471 and given BT the number. No boxes for detailing silent calls or what the scam is claiming to misrepresent etc
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04/12/2020 14:19:24 11 1
bbc
Totally agree. It's a minefield knowing what to avoid and what is real. I received a text recently asking if 3 transactions were mine. Turned out my credit card had been hacked but I wouldn't respond for fear it was a scam. Then I get one from O2 saying my payment hadn't been received...and yes it was a scam ! I accidentally answered a call a while ago and got charged ! It's a nightmare!
6
04/12/2020 12:27:11 18 1
bbc
Gchq shound be detecting & taking down these scammers. Not just giving feeble warnings for government to publish. Puting all the trouble, difficulty, caution, in the way of the ordinary users. Millions of whom will have no concept of what the advice is talking about, or even ever see it. Millions have no tv licence, do not watch it.

Scammers need dealing with as we do terrorists. Bigger threat.
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No
04/12/2020 13:13:02 10 0
bbc
Agree. This is organised crime or funding for terrorism
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04/12/2020 13:14:22 11 1
bbc
Meh,.. in this age of surveillance capitalism, I'll, at the very least, stick to anonymous cash, an unregistered dumb-phone, ..as well as alternative search engines to Google. Guess with a bit more effort, if you're so inclined, one can also get a VPN and maybe even switch your home computer operating system to less snoopy alternatives like some of the more user friendly linux distributions.
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CG
04/12/2020 13:34:00 7 0
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Use a free password manager such as lastpass that means you only have to remember one pass word protected by two factor authentication so to login you need both a unique password and access to your phone. It creates random passwords for each site and fills them in for you. All very safe and you can check this out at Which? or Martin's Money Saving Expert site.
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04/12/2020 16:35:12 2 0
bbc
Also if using Apple devices, chose to use Keychain. It populates throughout all you Apple devices
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05/12/2020 15:03:01 0 0
bbc
That assumes you have mobile phone coverage where you live.
6
04/12/2020 12:27:11 18 1
bbc
Gchq shound be detecting & taking down these scammers. Not just giving feeble warnings for government to publish. Puting all the trouble, difficulty, caution, in the way of the ordinary users. Millions of whom will have no concept of what the advice is talking about, or even ever see it. Millions have no tv licence, do not watch it.

Scammers need dealing with as we do terrorists. Bigger threat.
16
04/12/2020 13:44:16 2 1
bbc
This is thievery on a massive scale. They are criminals; parasites who prey on the vulnerable and unsuspecting. No fine or paltry prison sentence will be enough to discourage such a practice so we, law-abiding people, need to up the ante.
Lock up the thief for life, and put him to useful work for the state. If he refuses, let him starve. Confiscate all his assets - everything he owns. Everything.
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04/12/2020 13:54:08 27 0
bbc
My problem is with websites that ask you to "Accept all cookies" or "set your cookie preferences". How many times have you just pressed "Accept All". Do you know what you've accepted? By accepting all cookies you may have authorised the website to share your information with advertisers or use it to better understand your interests. The default for all websites should be "Functional cookies" only.
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04/12/2020 16:39:12 2 0
bbc
firefox also has better cookie control than chrome
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04/12/2020 19:05:15 0 0
bbc
Good point! I press 'Accept All' most of the time but will be more careful in future.
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No
04/12/2020 13:11:56 14 0
bbc
I would wish from more help from service providers. As an old git I regularly seem to get "silent" phone calls or - like Finkelstein - calls about a service I haven't got. When I report these to BT, there is a limited number of details I can include - even after I have dialled 1471 and given BT the number. No boxes for detailing silent calls or what the scam is claiming to misrepresent etc
18
04/12/2020 14:19:24 11 1
bbc
Totally agree. It's a minefield knowing what to avoid and what is real. I received a text recently asking if 3 transactions were mine. Turned out my credit card had been hacked but I wouldn't respond for fear it was a scam. Then I get one from O2 saying my payment hadn't been received...and yes it was a scam ! I accidentally answered a call a while ago and got charged ! It's a nightmare!
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04/12/2020 16:25:01 2 0
bbc
You me and many of my mates, very dodgy.
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04/12/2020 12:47:46 18 0
bbc
The onus has to be partly on the user. A site can be fully secure, but if the end user is using the same password they use everywhere else then that's not good!
19
04/12/2020 15:12:19 0 0
bbc
Thanks Richard appreciated.
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04/12/2020 16:23:35 7 0
bbc
Beware of phone scams from persons alleging to be from Amazon giving you an option to cancel renewals !!!
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04/12/2020 14:19:24 11 1
bbc
Totally agree. It's a minefield knowing what to avoid and what is real. I received a text recently asking if 3 transactions were mine. Turned out my credit card had been hacked but I wouldn't respond for fear it was a scam. Then I get one from O2 saying my payment hadn't been received...and yes it was a scam ! I accidentally answered a call a while ago and got charged ! It's a nightmare!
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04/12/2020 16:25:01 2 0
bbc
You me and many of my mates, very dodgy.
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CG
04/12/2020 13:34:00 7 0
bbc
Use a free password manager such as lastpass that means you only have to remember one pass word protected by two factor authentication so to login you need both a unique password and access to your phone. It creates random passwords for each site and fills them in for you. All very safe and you can check this out at Which? or Martin's Money Saving Expert site.
22
04/12/2020 16:35:12 2 0
bbc
Also if using Apple devices, chose to use Keychain. It populates throughout all you Apple devices
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04/12/2020 16:22:34 9 0
bbc
Beware if you receive a TEXT from the Royal Mail stating you have missed a parcel delivery. When you click on the link it takes you to a site that asks for full name and dob etc and your Bank details including your 3 digit security code. This one is fraudulent as you always get a card through the door with your own tracking number and Royal Mail don't ask for these details.
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04/12/2020 17:10:04 4 5
bbc
Royal Mail would never ask for bank details, if you fall for this then you deserve to be ripped off, common sense tells you never to reveal bank details to anyone.
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04/12/2020 17:17:26 1 0
bbc
Yes I have had one also from DPD
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04/12/2020 13:54:08 27 0
bbc
My problem is with websites that ask you to "Accept all cookies" or "set your cookie preferences". How many times have you just pressed "Accept All". Do you know what you've accepted? By accepting all cookies you may have authorised the website to share your information with advertisers or use it to better understand your interests. The default for all websites should be "Functional cookies" only.
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04/12/2020 16:39:12 2 0
bbc
firefox also has better cookie control than chrome
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04/12/2020 17:00:58 2 0
bbc
No different, you need a VPN and a browser like Brave
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04/12/2020 12:29:50 10 2
bbc
That's the Spirt put all the onus on the end user, who would ever have thought it..
25
04/12/2020 16:40:23 2 0
bbc
who has responsibility for keeping your keys secure when you're out shopping
6
04/12/2020 12:27:11 18 1
bbc
Gchq shound be detecting & taking down these scammers. Not just giving feeble warnings for government to publish. Puting all the trouble, difficulty, caution, in the way of the ordinary users. Millions of whom will have no concept of what the advice is talking about, or even ever see it. Millions have no tv licence, do not watch it.

Scammers need dealing with as we do terrorists. Bigger threat.
26
04/12/2020 16:41:49 0 0
bbc
it's a shared responsibility...

unfortunately, the government has a resputation for getting things wrong
4
04/12/2020 12:15:36 16 1
bbc
Shop at reputed websites, and for Heaven sake DONT Click any Links
27
04/12/2020 16:43:42 6 0
bbc
half-advice

you probably already know, that when you hover your mouse over a link, in the bottom left hand corner, there is a preview of the link you're about to click

if the link says www.hsbc.com/userlogin

it's probably safe

if it says

bit.ly/32452345?=authloginw4w538765

it probably isn't
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04/12/2020 16:59:43 2 19
bbc
Most victims of scammers are greedy people
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04/12/2020 17:36:55 17 0
bbc
Or perhaps vulnerable?
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04/12/2020 18:32:15 2 2
bbc
That's ridiculous. Substitute 'gullible' for 'greedy' and you'll have a point.
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05/12/2020 02:12:58 2 0
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Or like to save money, and who does not? Though the saying if it sounds too good to be true..... s something I stand by. How about those who fall for the fake meter readers for example who then rob them, what is their greed motive? That is a scam too.
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04/12/2020 16:39:12 2 0
bbc
firefox also has better cookie control than chrome
29
04/12/2020 17:00:58 2 0
bbc
No different, you need a VPN and a browser like Brave
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04/12/2020 16:22:34 9 0
bbc
Beware if you receive a TEXT from the Royal Mail stating you have missed a parcel delivery. When you click on the link it takes you to a site that asks for full name and dob etc and your Bank details including your 3 digit security code. This one is fraudulent as you always get a card through the door with your own tracking number and Royal Mail don't ask for these details.
30
04/12/2020 17:10:04 4 5
bbc
Royal Mail would never ask for bank details, if you fall for this then you deserve to be ripped off, common sense tells you never to reveal bank details to anyone.
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04/12/2020 16:22:34 9 0
bbc
Beware if you receive a TEXT from the Royal Mail stating you have missed a parcel delivery. When you click on the link it takes you to a site that asks for full name and dob etc and your Bank details including your 3 digit security code. This one is fraudulent as you always get a card through the door with your own tracking number and Royal Mail don't ask for these details.
31
04/12/2020 17:17:26 1 0
bbc
Yes I have had one also from DPD
28
04/12/2020 16:59:43 2 19
bbc
Most victims of scammers are greedy people
32
04/12/2020 17:36:55 17 0
bbc
Or perhaps vulnerable?
28
04/12/2020 16:59:43 2 19
bbc
Most victims of scammers are greedy people
33
04/12/2020 18:32:15 2 2
bbc
That's ridiculous. Substitute 'gullible' for 'greedy' and you'll have a point.
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Zac
04/12/2020 18:34:54 9 2
bbc
Telephone rings. Think scam. Knock on the door. Think Scam. Email arrives, especially with a link. Think scam. Post arrives. Think scam. Parcel arrives. Think scam. Trust nobody. Think scam. After thinking scam. Think scam again.
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04/12/2020 13:54:08 27 0
bbc
My problem is with websites that ask you to "Accept all cookies" or "set your cookie preferences". How many times have you just pressed "Accept All". Do you know what you've accepted? By accepting all cookies you may have authorised the website to share your information with advertisers or use it to better understand your interests. The default for all websites should be "Functional cookies" only.
35
04/12/2020 19:05:15 0 0
bbc
Good point! I press 'Accept All' most of the time but will be more careful in future.
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di
04/12/2020 20:26:55 4 1
bbc
I just get too many calls saying' I hear you have had a car accident '. I reply 'Would that be my Farrari or the Maserati this week' ..........
28
04/12/2020 16:59:43 2 19
bbc
Most victims of scammers are greedy people
37
05/12/2020 02:12:58 2 0
bbc
Or like to save money, and who does not? Though the saying if it sounds too good to be true..... s something I stand by. How about those who fall for the fake meter readers for example who then rob them, what is their greed motive? That is a scam too.
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05/12/2020 14:56:21 0 1
bbc
In company with 10% of the UK population (Ofcom figures) I have no mobile phone coverage where I live so I cannot receive texts. I'd love to use two-factor authentication but I can't receive the authentication code, which my bank insists on sending by text to a mobile. They refuse to send the text to my landline or by email. Vote "up" if you're in the same boat.
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CG
04/12/2020 13:34:00 7 0
bbc
Use a free password manager such as lastpass that means you only have to remember one pass word protected by two factor authentication so to login you need both a unique password and access to your phone. It creates random passwords for each site and fills them in for you. All very safe and you can check this out at Which? or Martin's Money Saving Expert site.
39
05/12/2020 15:03:01 0 0
bbc
That assumes you have mobile phone coverage where you live.
7
04/12/2020 12:29:28 1 2
bbc
Some banks, card, force it on you. But insist you own a mobile phone. Makes it useless. Needs big revision.
40
05/12/2020 15:13:03 1 0
bbc
I own a mobile phone but I live in an area with no mobile signal so I can't use 2FA because I cannot receive the authentication text. My bank refuses to use anything other than text to a mobile to send the code. When I point out that texts can be sent to landlines they refuse to help. I lodged an official complaint but their attitude is simply one of "that's our policy … if you don't like it …"