Climate change: PM aims for world-leading UK emissions cuts
03/12/2020 | news | science | 533
Boris Johnson is set to unveil plans for world-leading emissions UK cuts - but are they enough?
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02/12/2020 22:33:02 29 17
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Scotland already has a legally-binding 75% 2030 target. Boris isn’t leading the world - he’s lagging a long way behind Nicola.
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03/12/2020 05:07:55 9 4
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This problem will not be solved by UK politicians declaring fanciful percentage targets. It requires international agreement. This country has already dramatically reduced its carbon emissions by virtually eliminating the use of highly polluting coal for electricity generation. The same cannot be said for China, India and the US.
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02/12/2020 22:33:32 35 13
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The "world Leading" tag is not working out for us right now, how about "Barely Adequate".
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02/12/2020 22:38:32 38 15
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Yes but if you repeat the lie loud enough and often enough the idiots are taken in. Worked every time since 2016.
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02/12/2020 22:40:26 5 7
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UK is first to be using Pfizer covid 19 vaccine...but ignore any success if it suits your agenda.
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02/12/2020 22:35:09 8 18
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The destruction of western technological civilisation equates to self destruction. Please apply the brakes, hard to these plans.
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02/12/2020 22:35:21 93 26
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I hope Johnson sticks to his word as his targets are ambitious and necessary.

Although he doesn’t have much of a track record of sticking to his word.
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02/12/2020 23:36:38 78 8
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He's making promises for other prime ministers to deal with - he won't be in office in 2030
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Bob
03/12/2020 00:00:26 6 3
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The reality is that as far as emissions and energy usage goes the UK, along our European buddies (remember those?), are already leading the way thanks to ever-more-efficient machines and devices and the fact that our manufacturing continues to be shifted overseas. An 18% reduction across the last 10 years of data.

The problem is the big growth countries like India with a 70% increase.
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03/12/2020 03:50:11 6 3
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Is world leading

Like his previous

World beating Covid statement??

The guy is an Utter idiot as are the MPs that voted for him.
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03/12/2020 09:45:07 2 1
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Unilateral action is meaningless...Bidens plan if implemented would only mak 0.1 C change in 80 years.....
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03/12/2020 10:46:35 2 0
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World beating is just another phase from the politicians crib sheet.
As ever, all the stuff like gas boilers being phased out is going to affect the compliant silent majority.
Right now, on a cold, wet December day, a bit of warmth is one of the few comforts.
Mess with that at your peril.
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03/12/2020 18:18:17 0 0
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I'm sure his many ex partners will agree.
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02/12/2020 22:36:53 9 13
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Lot's of fancy words... it's really just another tax...
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02/12/2020 22:41:39 5 3
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Yes great isn't it - just like your TV tax.
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02/12/2020 22:33:32 35 13
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The "world Leading" tag is not working out for us right now, how about "Barely Adequate".
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02/12/2020 22:38:32 38 15
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Yes but if you repeat the lie loud enough and often enough the idiots are taken in. Worked every time since 2016.
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02/12/2020 22:51:28 1 7
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So you would rather have a government that doesn't even bother trying?!
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02/12/2020 22:40:08 7 9
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You have to strike a balance and the air that circulates isn't restricted by borders. Do not commit suicide by totally stopping any innovation or building in this country. Not everyone can use or need electric cars or cycle to shops.
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02/12/2020 22:49:40 15 7
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On the contrary.

A shift to green energy generation will encourage innovation.

The internal combustion engine is so 20th century.
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02/12/2020 22:33:32 35 13
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The "world Leading" tag is not working out for us right now, how about "Barely Adequate".
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02/12/2020 22:40:26 5 7
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UK is first to be using Pfizer covid 19 vaccine...but ignore any success if it suits your agenda.
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02/12/2020 23:04:11 4 2
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Turkish scientists, German company, all under EU rules.
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TV
02/12/2020 22:36:53 9 13
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Lot's of fancy words... it's really just another tax...
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02/12/2020 22:41:39 5 3
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Yes great isn't it - just like your TV tax.
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EG
02/12/2020 22:43:24 28 7
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Please consider the Aberthaw Tidal Power Station. A barrage between Aberthaw and Minehead would generate four million kilowatts of 'green' electricity for the National Grid. (8% of UK maximum demand). Tidal generation can easily cover high-tide, low-tide with storage batteries to give 4000 megawatt continuously. At least look at the opportunity. What a Climate Change contribution!!
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JGC
02/12/2020 22:50:01 14 20
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Please don't it's a beautiful stretch of coastline and I'd rather it stayed that way.
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02/12/2020 22:50:36 5 6
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Absolutely right. Yet the Tories kicked the Severn Barrage into the long grass.
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03/12/2020 12:47:29 0 2
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Only if you pay vastly more for the resulting eletricity.
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03/12/2020 15:46:24 1 0
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Anything that might give Wales and the South West of England an independent source of electricity is a Tory no-go. Look at the Swansea Lagoon !
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03/12/2020 20:18:50 0 0
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Will it be better than the French tidal scheme at La Rance?
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Agenda 21, the real reason they are closing businesses, encouraging people to work from home and clamping down on people traveling to different countries. World leaders have their climate quota to meet and they haven't been doing too well at it. So they push the story of the fake virus which allows them to bring loads of rules in to control people and stop them damaging the environment. Removed
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02/12/2020 22:51:21 14 3
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Hat, meet tin foil.
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02/12/2020 22:44:41 6 3
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If politicians just answered questions truly it would save a vast amount of energy being wasted
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oie
02/12/2020 22:53:27 1 2
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It is thier job to not answer, that is what a politican does. It does not matter which party it is. The more skillful ones at doing so are normally the ones who reach the top. AKA Johnson, Sturgeon and Starmer.
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oie
02/12/2020 22:39:44 8 19
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Just what does Boris think he is doing? We never voted for the Greenies.
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02/12/2020 22:52:28 9 4
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You should read the manifesto before you cast your vote. It was all in there.
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02/12/2020 22:57:52 1 5
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Actually, we did. Never again.
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02/12/2020 22:40:08 7 9
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You have to strike a balance and the air that circulates isn't restricted by borders. Do not commit suicide by totally stopping any innovation or building in this country. Not everyone can use or need electric cars or cycle to shops.
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02/12/2020 22:49:40 15 7
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On the contrary.

A shift to green energy generation will encourage innovation.

The internal combustion engine is so 20th century.
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02/12/2020 22:54:27 2 3
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"The internal combustion engine is so 20th century" Unlike the electric motor and a battery that are so 19th century. Hydrogen is the way to go.
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EG
02/12/2020 22:43:24 28 7
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Please consider the Aberthaw Tidal Power Station. A barrage between Aberthaw and Minehead would generate four million kilowatts of 'green' electricity for the National Grid. (8% of UK maximum demand). Tidal generation can easily cover high-tide, low-tide with storage batteries to give 4000 megawatt continuously. At least look at the opportunity. What a Climate Change contribution!!
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JGC
02/12/2020 22:50:01 14 20
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Please don't it's a beautiful stretch of coastline and I'd rather it stayed that way.
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02/12/2020 23:13:27 3 5
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But it will not with sea level rise
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EG
02/12/2020 22:43:24 28 7
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Please consider the Aberthaw Tidal Power Station. A barrage between Aberthaw and Minehead would generate four million kilowatts of 'green' electricity for the National Grid. (8% of UK maximum demand). Tidal generation can easily cover high-tide, low-tide with storage batteries to give 4000 megawatt continuously. At least look at the opportunity. What a Climate Change contribution!!
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02/12/2020 22:50:36 5 6
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Absolutely right. Yet the Tories kicked the Severn Barrage into the long grass.
Agenda 21, the real reason they are closing businesses, encouraging people to work from home and clamping down on people traveling to different countries. World leaders have their climate quota to meet and they haven't been doing too well at it. So they push the story of the fake virus which allows them to bring loads of rules in to control people and stop them damaging the environment. Removed
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02/12/2020 22:51:21 14 3
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Hat, meet tin foil.
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02/12/2020 22:38:32 38 15
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Yes but if you repeat the lie loud enough and often enough the idiots are taken in. Worked every time since 2016.
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02/12/2020 22:51:28 1 7
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So you would rather have a government that doesn't even bother trying?!
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Abc
02/12/2020 23:03:04 1 3
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Or an anti-semite leading us
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oie
02/12/2020 22:39:44 8 19
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Just what does Boris think he is doing? We never voted for the Greenies.
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02/12/2020 22:52:28 9 4
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You should read the manifesto before you cast your vote. It was all in there.
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oie
02/12/2020 22:56:28 0 4
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Not that nonense response again.
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oie
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Halve the worlds population, save the sustainable world. Simple really. Removed
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02/12/2020 22:57:24 23 24
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Do the right thing , then. I'll lay some flowers on you.
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02/12/2020 23:01:20 7 9
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Goodbye. I'll place some flowers where you once were. No-one will miss you.
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02/12/2020 23:02:28 10 11
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If no child was born from tomorrow it would still take 40 years before the world population halved, so your solution isn’t “simple really”, it’s just plain nonsense.
You're right. We should do everything we can to stop African population growth. Removed
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02/12/2020 23:43:03 0 6
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apparently corona is doing so
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02/12/2020 23:43:04 6 10
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Remarkable the correlation in the names of those who are deniers & those who generally have far right-wing views. Occasionally they'll switch their argument to over population.

They usually cite Africa, but the problem is 10% of the world's population: https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/the-worlds-richest-people-also-emit-the-most-carbon

Don't fall for right-wing lies!
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02/12/2020 23:44:46 3 4
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So it's not a question of halving the human population, it's more about controlling the consumption of 10% of the world's human population.
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02/12/2020 23:46:12 3 3
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dont you really mean,
halve the Worlds population,
so you can cause twice as much damage.
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03/12/2020 03:52:10 0 0
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Lol well Boris and Jacob Rees mog haven't 6.5 kids at least.
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03/12/2020 04:21:12 0 0
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I'm sure your genius plan involves not having kids. I suppose the idea is that we destroy the birth rate and then import millions of Pakistanis in a generation or two because we don't have enough young people.
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03/12/2020 08:01:37 0 0
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Ah you’re plan is genocide... classy
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02/12/2020 22:49:40 15 7
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On the contrary.

A shift to green energy generation will encourage innovation.

The internal combustion engine is so 20th century.
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02/12/2020 22:54:27 2 3
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"The internal combustion engine is so 20th century" Unlike the electric motor and a battery that are so 19th century. Hydrogen is the way to go.
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02/12/2020 22:59:08 2 1
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Yep, that’s another great new tech, we need to reduce the energy required to produce large amounts of it, but I’m sure that will come.
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03/12/2020 09:36:52 0 0
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Well.... hydrogen tech is very much 19th century too... there’s nothing new in the technology. It’s about what makes the most sense. Btw you do realise hydrogen powered cars are electric don’t you......
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02/12/2020 22:55:10 3 7
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Does this mean the PM will stop talking out of his ass?
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02/12/2020 22:55:22 17 19
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Not being funny but there is + is going to be more important matters at hand.

No good us having a clean, green environment if large parts of the population are still knackered from what's happened this year.

Greta Thunberg might jump for joy but this stuff doesn't put food on the table for your average Joe, I'm not saying it should be tossed out but there's bigger priorities for the UK now.
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03/12/2020 00:10:49 2 1
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The most important thing for humanity to address is climate change. CV19 is horrible but it will not end human life on Earth, in fact it won't come close, but climate change is already wiping out animal life and as the potential to do the same to us.

It is an existential threat, CV19 is not!
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02/12/2020 22:56:09 3 19
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Boris Buffoon is really hoping that he can hide behind the economic destruction that he's caused - using the excuse of covod - in order to appease the Corbynistas who have supported him throughout this lock down oppression.
Has anyone noticed how this nonsense leads to greater restrictions on our hard fought-for freedoms? But it's ok because it makes a polar bear happy.
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02/12/2020 22:57:08 64 12
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No country can be serious in cutting greenhouse gases as long as they are reliant on other countries for products. All countries have to stop transporting around the world and make it locally.

Corporations need reigning in to help the climate better, not just make profit helping the few, but helping the many that are suffering around the world because of global warming. Planet first, profit 2nd.
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02/12/2020 23:40:04 36 24
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No country can be serious about cutting greenhouse gas emissions while they increase the population. The amount of emissions generated by building 100s of thousands of new houses ever year is enormous. 82% of population growth is through immigration.
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03/12/2020 00:03:18 13 9
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UK hasn't been self-sufficient in food since the 18th Century.
At the moment we import 40% of what we eat.
Good luck with living on what we produce locally - especially now we have blocked all those Eastern European farm workers.
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03/12/2020 06:49:20 1 0
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Except that transporting around the world can still often be the cleaner option, ..especially if, as often is the case, the energy cost of producing a product is significantly higher than transport costs. Example would be Iceland reducing other countries mined aluminium ore using clean hydro and geothermal electricity.
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03/12/2020 08:52:59 0 0
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No, no country can do it alone, it take all countries to do it which means working together and having agreements and common rules world wide.

And here we are leaving a group of countries that work together and have common rules and values, all for some false idea of nationalistic pride and sovereignty.
Halve the worlds population, save the sustainable world. Simple really. Removed
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02/12/2020 22:57:24 23 24
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Do the right thing , then. I'll lay some flowers on you.
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oie
02/12/2020 23:02:55 7 9
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Standard response. Iv'e done my bit by having no kids, Have you?
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02/12/2020 23:08:37 1 3
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Thanos lives
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oie
02/12/2020 22:39:44 8 19
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Just what does Boris think he is doing? We never voted for the Greenies.
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02/12/2020 22:57:52 1 5
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Actually, we did. Never again.
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02/12/2020 22:54:27 2 3
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"The internal combustion engine is so 20th century" Unlike the electric motor and a battery that are so 19th century. Hydrogen is the way to go.
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02/12/2020 22:59:08 2 1
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Yep, that’s another great new tech, we need to reduce the energy required to produce large amounts of it, but I’m sure that will come.
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02/12/2020 23:01:00 12 14
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This decarbonisation of the British Isles will cause an enormous amount of economic damage to the UK and have a negligible effect on global climate. The large countries with dirty industry,former USSR and China, produce huge amounts of CO2 and other greenhouse gases compared to us and don't appear to care less. Even they are tiny producers of greenhouse gases compared with mother nature herself.
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02/12/2020 23:21:40 4 3
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I note you know next to nothing about the subject.
Halve the worlds population, save the sustainable world. Simple really. Removed
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02/12/2020 23:01:20 7 9
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Goodbye. I'll place some flowers where you once were. No-one will miss you.
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Abc
02/12/2020 23:01:24 4 10
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Post Brexit we can lead environmental change
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02/12/2020 23:02:49 3 16
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Post Brexit we can ignore the hippies - that's one reason we voted for freedom
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02/12/2020 23:01:46 43 8
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Yet another thing we are to be world leading/beating at..... it means less & less every time BoJo says it.
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03/12/2020 11:42:12 6 4
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The 'world-leading' comment appears only in the headline. The article itself makes no reference to the PM having used those words.
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03/12/2020 11:44:20 0 0
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Setting the reference point for emissions at 1990 levels is completely dishonest.

They have already fallen by ~40% since then.

Boris may like to take credit, but as Brussels correspondent for the Daily Telegraph at the time he had absolutely no part in this success!
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02/12/2020 23:01:51 52 6
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Words are cheap. There needs to be a move away from perpetual growth in 'productivity' and economy.
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02/12/2020 23:05:43 14 32
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Words are cheap, people need what they need to live. Rich, middle-class people spout moralistic nonsense
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02/12/2020 23:08:48 4 2
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No, productivity can continue or even increase. We just need to use automation to do it & reduce population growth (by reducing the number of births per year). Need to start now as it will take 20 years for that small population to reach adulthood & the world of work where there will be reduced jobs due to automation
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02/12/2020 23:35:30 1 1
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I have been saying this for decades.
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03/12/2020 00:31:06 1 1
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I so agree.... but fat chance with the Tories in charge....
Halve the worlds population, save the sustainable world. Simple really. Removed
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02/12/2020 23:02:28 10 11
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If no child was born from tomorrow it would still take 40 years before the world population halved, so your solution isn’t “simple really”, it’s just plain nonsense.
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02/12/2020 23:02:28 4 6
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Graffiti=spray paint=cause of global warming. Tax spray paint. Save the planet.
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02/12/2020 23:01:24 4 10
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Post Brexit we can lead environmental change
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02/12/2020 23:02:49 3 16
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Post Brexit we can ignore the hippies - that's one reason we voted for freedom
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02/12/2020 23:05:44 5 2
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You’ve been well and truly had.
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02/12/2020 23:07:09 4 1
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I think you are the one that has been on the magic mushrooms
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02/12/2020 23:15:59 4 2
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You have been shafted,.. and the UK... Oven ready, no borders, (just rip up the paper work) isn't it funny who has either jumped ship or disappeared,..
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02/12/2020 22:51:28 1 7
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So you would rather have a government that doesn't even bother trying?!
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Abc
02/12/2020 23:03:04 1 3
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Or an anti-semite leading us
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02/12/2020 23:04:05 30 11
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Actual word leading, or the type of world leading the test and trace app was?
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02/12/2020 22:40:26 5 7
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UK is first to be using Pfizer covid 19 vaccine...but ignore any success if it suits your agenda.
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02/12/2020 23:04:11 4 2
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Turkish scientists, German company, all under EU rules.
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02/12/2020 23:04:31 5 15
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Total waste of time and effort. What difference will a pimple make on the planet?
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02/12/2020 23:11:52 4 1
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Try science.
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02/12/2020 23:01:51 52 6
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Words are cheap. There needs to be a move away from perpetual growth in 'productivity' and economy.
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02/12/2020 23:05:43 14 32
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Words are cheap, people need what they need to live. Rich, middle-class people spout moralistic nonsense
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02/12/2020 23:10:14 7 1
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You make too many assumptions
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02/12/2020 23:19:18 6 1
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Presumably a self description?
"people need what they need to live". AGW/ACC caused by selfish, relatively rich consumer societies guarantee the less advantaged will suffer.
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02/12/2020 23:38:01 2 4
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Your comment may be true, but it's not the middle class people who are growing in population but the third world countries that wont or can't manage their population growth, still use wood fires for cooking and water heating etc.
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03/12/2020 14:17:44 1 0
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Whereas poor working class people spout fake news & conspiracy theories?

These generalisations of yours sure are fun.
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03/12/2020 15:04:59 0 0
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So you do.
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02/12/2020 23:02:49 3 16
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Post Brexit we can ignore the hippies - that's one reason we voted for freedom
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02/12/2020 23:05:44 5 2
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You’ve been well and truly had.
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02/12/2020 23:06:17 37 13
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World beating clown ?? at it again.
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02/12/2020 23:02:49 3 16
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Post Brexit we can ignore the hippies - that's one reason we voted for freedom
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02/12/2020 23:07:09 4 1
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I think you are the one that has been on the magic mushrooms
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GW
02/12/2020 23:08:29 14 5
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Get rid of parliament would stop the most useless and damaging emissions!
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02/12/2020 23:47:39 3 4
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Can’t argue with that
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03/12/2020 03:58:39 0 0
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And more to PR, allow ukpublic far more voting online.
Brexit proved that MPs aren't in touch with constituency.
How would publics vote on tiers?
What does starmer abstention mean? He has no opinion or thinks his opinion overrules local constituency?
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02/12/2020 23:08:30 4 5
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At last the government is talking about serious reductions in emissions. It's not enough yet but it's sending a clear signal that we must act NOW. Hopefully this creates a situation where countries try to out-do each other with their plans and things really start to change.
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02/12/2020 22:44:41 6 3
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If politicians just answered questions truly it would save a vast amount of energy being wasted
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oie
02/12/2020 22:53:27 1 2
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It is thier job to not answer, that is what a politican does. It does not matter which party it is. The more skillful ones at doing so are normally the ones who reach the top. AKA Johnson, Sturgeon and Starmer.
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02/12/2020 22:52:28 9 4
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You should read the manifesto before you cast your vote. It was all in there.
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oie
02/12/2020 22:56:28 0 4
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Not that nonense response again.
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02/12/2020 22:57:24 23 24
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Do the right thing , then. I'll lay some flowers on you.
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oie
02/12/2020 23:02:55 7 9
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Standard response. Iv'e done my bit by having no kids, Have you?
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02/12/2020 23:42:42 6 8
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No. I'm not a sandal-wearing hippy. I sprog out like there's no tomorrow because I'm a stud and my nads are ever resourceful. Just because you're infertile, don't have a go at us handsome chaps who pull birds.
Jealousy will get you nowhere.
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03/12/2020 03:39:14 1 0
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Thank goodness you have done your bit. We dont need more ignorant opinions. Who will support the elderly economically? I hope you have no plans to retire too.
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03/12/2020 08:39:06 0 0
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Well its nice to see an incel putting a positive spin on his situation rather than threatening women on twitter.

But riddle me this, whats going to happen when there population gets top heavy? Are we going to logans run it? The purge?

See its just not that simple im afraid.

But again kudos for breaking the mould of your kind. Don't let the Chad's get your down!
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02/12/2020 22:57:24 23 24
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Do the right thing , then. I'll lay some flowers on you.
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02/12/2020 23:08:37 1 3
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Thanos lives
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02/12/2020 23:01:51 52 6
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Words are cheap. There needs to be a move away from perpetual growth in 'productivity' and economy.
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02/12/2020 23:08:48 4 2
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No, productivity can continue or even increase. We just need to use automation to do it & reduce population growth (by reducing the number of births per year). Need to start now as it will take 20 years for that small population to reach adulthood & the world of work where there will be reduced jobs due to automation
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02/12/2020 23:14:19 6 1
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No - we need to stop wanting more stuff. I wear clothes until they are no longer repairable. I don't change my car every year or two etc... things that are an anathema to a capitalistic society; if everyone did that then the economy would reverse. And yet, if we do not do that then we will continue this suicidal rush into destroying the ecosphere that we need to survive. It is just plain stupid.
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02/12/2020 23:05:43 14 32
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Words are cheap, people need what they need to live. Rich, middle-class people spout moralistic nonsense
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02/12/2020 23:10:14 7 1
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You make too many assumptions
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02/12/2020 23:04:31 5 15
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Total waste of time and effort. What difference will a pimple make on the planet?
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02/12/2020 23:11:52 4 1
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Try science.
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02/12/2020 23:16:29 0 4
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Please do. Being a vegetarian is not the answer.
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02/12/2020 23:12:44 99 8
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We have had a world beating test and trace system, they claim we’re going to have the most advanced frontier in the world with the EU by 2024 and now we’re going to have world leading cuts in emissions.
Why doesn’t the government drop this obsession with being world beating and just deliver something that actually works?
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03/12/2020 03:51:16 40 8
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Be easier to sack the idiot and get someone sane in.
While at it sack the MPs who voted this idiot leader.
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03/12/2020 11:37:50 7 2
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The 'world-leading' comment appears only in the headline. The article itself makes no reference to the PM having used those words.
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03/12/2020 11:42:21 5 7
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Because the BBC and other left wing organisations pressurise the UK to shoot itself in the foot while massive producers of CO2 such as the USA, India, China, Russia, South Africa and so forth couldn't give a hoot.
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03/12/2020 12:06:36 4 2
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It's the Trump approach, claim you are the best at everything and just hope that people don't look too closely
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03/12/2020 12:42:50 4 3
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well, we have tested far more people than any other nation in europe ( I don't count russia)

Globally only the USA, China, India and Russia have tested more than the UK the these are all much larger nations than the UK.

Taking planned testing into account the UK is a world leader in this area now.
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03/12/2020 12:55:43 2 4
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use ECOSIA as your search engine. It plants tropical trees as you search the internet and will replace all those fir trees cut down for Christmas trees. It plants tropical trees to try and stop climate change. Help it get to 1000,000,000 trees ASAP. Put its APP on your mobile. Make it default on your computer. The trees will suck tonnes of CO2
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03/12/2020 13:00:18 4 2
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Where do you read in this article about the government wanting to be world beating? "World-leading" is in the headline, not something the government actually said.

The Paris agreement requires countries to submit NDCs and the UK's 68-69% target seems reasonable, given green groups want 75%. Don't let a kneejerk response get in the way helping you understand what the article is actually saying.
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02/12/2020 23:07:56 3 6
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Remember folks, back in 2018, we were ‘reliably’ informed by the bbc, the un and all the other usual suspects that we had just 12 years to save the world. 2030 was doomsday on current trends. Well, it’s almost 2021 now, China and India amongst many others have continued if not expanded their industry and emissions so doomsday must be all but assured now. Right? Aye, ok then. Of course it is. ??
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oie
02/12/2020 23:09:04 6 6
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As long as you have China and India and several others. No amount of virtue signalling or the likes of ER screwing up normal peoples working lives will make the blind bit of difference.
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02/12/2020 23:16:55 2 2
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Do you want to be world leading or not?
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02/12/2020 23:13:18 2 8
bbc
Smells like Woodstock on here. I wonder how much environmental damage those joss sticks do.
But I'm oblivious because the patchouli sticks have rendered my brain permanently green.
Save the polar bears, like, yeah man, it's, er like, you know, it just is, ok?
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02/12/2020 23:18:47 3 2
bbc
Another one that has been on the magic mushrooms
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03/12/2020 00:33:18 0 0
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Yawn
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JGC
02/12/2020 22:50:01 14 20
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Please don't it's a beautiful stretch of coastline and I'd rather it stayed that way.
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02/12/2020 23:13:27 3 5
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But it will not with sea level rise
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03/12/2020 11:54:47 2 2
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Exactly how far will the sealevel rise on that stretch of the coast.

Would that be from a source like the IPCC or XR or 'academic' that is chasing a grant by over hyping everything.
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02/12/2020 23:13:46 3 2
bbc
Are these the PM’s targets or is Carrie governing by WhatsApp again?
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02/12/2020 23:08:48 4 2
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No, productivity can continue or even increase. We just need to use automation to do it & reduce population growth (by reducing the number of births per year). Need to start now as it will take 20 years for that small population to reach adulthood & the world of work where there will be reduced jobs due to automation
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02/12/2020 23:14:19 6 1
bbc
No - we need to stop wanting more stuff. I wear clothes until they are no longer repairable. I don't change my car every year or two etc... things that are an anathema to a capitalistic society; if everyone did that then the economy would reverse. And yet, if we do not do that then we will continue this suicidal rush into destroying the ecosphere that we need to survive. It is just plain stupid.
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02/12/2020 23:18:56 0 12
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No - you need to stop telling other people to behave exactly like you. You're all the same, you greenies - you have seen the light and anyone who hasn't is a heathen. Jesus - you have a lot to answer for
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03/12/2020 00:33:03 1 1
bbc
I have no car, live in a small place & wear a jersey when it gets cold rather than turn up the heating. I do have a massive number of CDs though.....
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02/12/2020 23:15:25 42 17
bbc
One thing the pandemic has taught us is that many people can work from home. Many people want more home working too.

The government should encourage this rather than encouraging people back to the office
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02/12/2020 23:21:11 11 12
bbc
Unfortunately that means the local councils will lose out on business rates.
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03/12/2020 00:14:37 5 4
bbc
Many people working from home will be easily replaced by people working from home in Karachi or Kolkata.
Be careful what you wish for.
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03/12/2020 13:14:15 1 0
bbc
One thing the pandemic has taught us is that until we restore a work/home separation again, peoples wellbeing and mental health will suffer. All because their home has become their workplace.
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03/12/2020 13:20:03 1 0
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Not I tried it and hated it. Don't mind taking verbal abuse from "customers" when in the office, but not in my own home.
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03/12/2020 18:15:38 0 0
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That will lead to seismic changes in social interaction which will be massively harmful
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02/12/2020 23:02:49 3 16
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Post Brexit we can ignore the hippies - that's one reason we voted for freedom
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02/12/2020 23:15:59 4 2
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You have been shafted,.. and the UK... Oven ready, no borders, (just rip up the paper work) isn't it funny who has either jumped ship or disappeared,..
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02/12/2020 23:27:58 0 3
bbc
Brexit was the one success. Then the Tories became Labour-in-disguise.
Fox or Farage next time. But we had to vote Tory in '19 to ensure the s*** didn't deny the will of the people - we had no choice at that time.
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02/12/2020 23:11:52 4 1
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Try science.
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02/12/2020 23:16:29 0 4
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Please do. Being a vegetarian is not the answer.
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03/12/2020 09:49:52 0 0
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It’s a big part of it.
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oie
02/12/2020 23:09:04 6 6
bbc
As long as you have China and India and several others. No amount of virtue signalling or the likes of ER screwing up normal peoples working lives will make the blind bit of difference.
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02/12/2020 23:16:55 2 2
bbc
Do you want to be world leading or not?
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02/12/2020 23:35:02 0 2
bbc
No not really because all it’s going to do is add more taxes more expenses yet our wages if we have a job are getting lower and lower whilst living standards are clearly becoming unaffordable and that’s before Brexit.
So no I don’t
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02/12/2020 23:40:14 1 1
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No, just better than before.
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02/12/2020 23:50:25 1 2
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Not.
Being "world leading" will mean exporting relatively well paid jobs along with our emissions.
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02/12/2020 23:17:16 35 6
bbc
Boris and world beating again? Let’s hope it’s a bit more successful than the COVID track and trace efforts
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02/12/2020 23:31:03 5 21
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yawn
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03/12/2020 11:42:51 1 0
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The 'world-leading' comment appears only in the headline. The article itself makes no reference to the PM having used those words.
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02/12/2020 23:13:18 2 8
bbc
Smells like Woodstock on here. I wonder how much environmental damage those joss sticks do.
But I'm oblivious because the patchouli sticks have rendered my brain permanently green.
Save the polar bears, like, yeah man, it's, er like, you know, it just is, ok?
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02/12/2020 23:18:47 3 2
bbc
Another one that has been on the magic mushrooms
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02/12/2020 23:35:19 0 1
bbc
beware of the flowers...
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02/12/2020 23:14:19 6 1
bbc
No - we need to stop wanting more stuff. I wear clothes until they are no longer repairable. I don't change my car every year or two etc... things that are an anathema to a capitalistic society; if everyone did that then the economy would reverse. And yet, if we do not do that then we will continue this suicidal rush into destroying the ecosphere that we need to survive. It is just plain stupid.
67
02/12/2020 23:18:56 0 12
bbc
No - you need to stop telling other people to behave exactly like you. You're all the same, you greenies - you have seen the light and anyone who hasn't is a heathen. Jesus - you have a lot to answer for
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02/12/2020 23:21:45 5 1
bbc
I'm sure you'll enjoy all your luxuries knowing that your children will suffer a scorched earth as a result.
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02/12/2020 23:18:57 53 20
bbc
It's world population we need to control,... but nobody dare say that,
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02/12/2020 23:23:16 16 41
bbc
The problem is there were far too many baby-boomers (1946-64) who then only had 1.5 kids each to support them in their ultra-long, increasingly frail dotage.
Which is why we needed immigration, of course
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02/12/2020 23:23:48 13 15
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Why does every single one of the “it’s population” posts always claim “but you’re not allowed to say that” or similar nonsense?

Population levels have been debated for decades. However, the mechanism for population reduction has never been palatable to people. A party will never be elected on a platform of “we decide who has kids”.

Look at consumption not population.
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02/12/2020 23:24:34 5 3
bbc
You just did.....
So do the right thing: don't just talk about, do it. You can reduce the population by one right now - and the added bonus is that we won't have to listen to your whinging anymore.
Do it, do it.
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02/12/2020 23:47:17 7 15
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Remarkable the correlation in the names of those who are deniers & those who generally have far right-wing views. Occasionally they'll switch their argument to over population.

They usually cite Africa, but the problem is 10% of the world's population: https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/the-worlds-richest-people-also-emit-the-most-carbon

Don't fall for right-wing lies!
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02/12/2020 23:57:48 5 7
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You can say that - but how do you achieve it?
The best way to bring down birth rates is to make poor countries prosperous.
More international aid would be a start.
But UK has decided to reduce its aid.
Perhaps Boris wasn't told.
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03/12/2020 10:14:11 2 0
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Wheres Thanos when ye need him
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02/12/2020 23:05:43 14 32
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Words are cheap, people need what they need to live. Rich, middle-class people spout moralistic nonsense
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02/12/2020 23:19:18 6 1
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Presumably a self description?
"people need what they need to live". AGW/ACC caused by selfish, relatively rich consumer societies guarantee the less advantaged will suffer.
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02/12/2020 23:25:15 0 8
bbc
So you're saying the less advantaged need stuff? Surely they should be happy with nothing according to your logic. Let their children die of starvation because it's evil to want "stuff"
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02/12/2020 23:20:23 26 5
bbc
Johnson won't be around (politically speaking) in a decade
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03/12/2020 00:00:14 14 7
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Hopefully he will in jail by then.
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02/12/2020 23:15:25 42 17
bbc
One thing the pandemic has taught us is that many people can work from home. Many people want more home working too.

The government should encourage this rather than encouraging people back to the office
71
02/12/2020 23:21:11 11 12
bbc
Unfortunately that means the local councils will lose out on business rates.
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02/12/2020 23:30:16 10 3
bbc
... but save money because their staff are working from home?
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02/12/2020 23:33:00 5 1
bbc
Why do you think that the status quo for the application of business rates cannot be be changed as well? Environmental change needs a complete rethink of everything we do not just cherry picking supposedly easy
headline targets
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02/12/2020 23:33:03 1 1
bbc
So residents and tenants will have to cough up the difference
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02/12/2020 23:39:06 8 2
bbc
Good! maybe now they will reduce the rates to keep the already struggling shops afloat.
Councils need to accept that the high street is effectively dead and they're partly to blame!
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03/12/2020 03:56:07 3 2
bbc
So what? Councils can start being efficient.. One ceo, accounts, hr etc for say 4 councils.
Put more stuff online?
Use same Web design for multiple councils? One that works?
If wfh is possible put more minutes, info online.
Allow public to raise questions, vote online.
MPs proved they weren't in touch with constituency over brexit vote. Are councils?
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02/12/2020 23:01:00 12 14
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This decarbonisation of the British Isles will cause an enormous amount of economic damage to the UK and have a negligible effect on global climate. The large countries with dirty industry,former USSR and China, produce huge amounts of CO2 and other greenhouse gases compared to us and don't appear to care less. Even they are tiny producers of greenhouse gases compared with mother nature herself.
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02/12/2020 23:21:40 4 3
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I note you know next to nothing about the subject.
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02/12/2020 23:18:56 0 12
bbc
No - you need to stop telling other people to behave exactly like you. You're all the same, you greenies - you have seen the light and anyone who hasn't is a heathen. Jesus - you have a lot to answer for
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02/12/2020 23:21:45 5 1
bbc
I'm sure you'll enjoy all your luxuries knowing that your children will suffer a scorched earth as a result.
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02/12/2020 23:56:52 1 1
bbc
Sent from a smart phone or a laptop?
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02/12/2020 23:18:57 53 20
bbc
It's world population we need to control,... but nobody dare say that,
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02/12/2020 23:23:16 16 41
bbc
The problem is there were far too many baby-boomers (1946-64) who then only had 1.5 kids each to support them in their ultra-long, increasingly frail dotage.
Which is why we needed immigration, of course
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02/12/2020 23:38:24 14 4
bbc
We have robots and machines that do the work of many men (look at how mechanised car factories are now or even Amazon depots) - in fact the labour needs of our economy are constantly shrinking. We don't need more people.
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03/12/2020 10:16:37 1 2
bbc
So what's your solution then ... forced euthenasia for everyone over a certain age ?

But not you, of course.
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03/12/2020 13:12:13 1 1
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Funny how it's always someone else's fault isn't it...
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03/12/2020 13:17:12 0 0
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They'll blame the NHS for doing too good a job, all those poor still living and claiming pensions etc..
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03/12/2020 13:32:43 1 1
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A society is not a ponzi scheme Mr Leveler. And those frail baby boomers have lived through difficult times and are largely responsible for an affluent economy which will be become much poorer with uncontrolled, low skilled immigration. Check your facts, numbers and prejudice before posting please.
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03/12/2020 14:20:45 0 0
bbc
LoL. Now I have heard it all.

So we are blaming boomers for the economy, the environment, house prices and now the overpopulation issue by apparently not having enough children?!

Hilarious. Still, always easier to shirk responsibility and point the finger at some else, eh?

How is that working out for you?
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03/12/2020 18:20:32 0 0
bbc
Here we go again. Its all the fault of the baby boomers. Give it a rest.
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03/12/2020 20:16:33 0 0
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as do the NHS and the farmers
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03/12/2020 20:32:24 0 0
bbc
We need older people to stay active longer and robots to do the industrial work. I'm retired but the day I don't push myself to run up to the back gate because I don't have to is the day I won't be able to run when I do have to.
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03/12/2020 21:47:42 0 0
bbc
The problem is that the resultant millennials dont have any concept of restraint when it comes to resource consumption
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02/12/2020 23:23:46 33 6
bbc
More damaging gas leaving No 10
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02/12/2020 23:18:57 53 20
bbc
It's world population we need to control,... but nobody dare say that,
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02/12/2020 23:23:48 13 15
bbc
Why does every single one of the “it’s population” posts always claim “but you’re not allowed to say that” or similar nonsense?

Population levels have been debated for decades. However, the mechanism for population reduction has never been palatable to people. A party will never be elected on a platform of “we decide who has kids”.

Look at consumption not population.
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02/12/2020 23:32:05 14 1
bbc
Things aren't going to improve until Governments stop measuring "progress" by "gross domestic product" which is consumption multiplied by body count.
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03/12/2020 09:37:26 0 1
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The UK birthrate has been below replacement level for some time. It is only the ongoing importation of population that has seen it rise, plus their own (higher) birthrate.

Birth control, women wanting their own careers, etc. has lead to a long term fall in the birthrate in the West. The same will eventually be true elsewhere.
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02/12/2020 23:24:11 32 5
bbc
Boris can aim for world beating (again), but, what will he actually deliver...
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03/12/2020 13:55:09 5 11
bbc
So, 30 million families in the UK are going to roll over just like that and happily pay 5 times more for their energy than they do now. On the back of the climate pseudoscience pushed by green activists like Harrabin.
It's not going to happen. Most people are not as stupid as the AGW religion assumes.
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02/12/2020 23:18:57 53 20
bbc
It's world population we need to control,... but nobody dare say that,
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02/12/2020 23:24:34 5 3
bbc
You just did.....
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02/12/2020 23:19:18 6 1
bbc
Presumably a self description?
"people need what they need to live". AGW/ACC caused by selfish, relatively rich consumer societies guarantee the less advantaged will suffer.
79
02/12/2020 23:25:15 0 8
bbc
So you're saying the less advantaged need stuff? Surely they should be happy with nothing according to your logic. Let their children die of starvation because it's evil to want "stuff"
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03/12/2020 00:07:15 5 1
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When are you going to post anything positive to explain how the world is going to reduce its carbon emissions?

Appears to me all you do is troll, which is a fair and accurate comment of your input.
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02/12/2020 23:25:18 21 3
bbc
"PM aims for world-leading UK emissions cuts"
Hopefully this will be more successful than our 'world beating' test and trace system When will this buffoon stop promising the earth and then underdelivering?
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03/12/2020 18:20:59 1 2
bbc
There's no point when China, India etc are spewing emissions out. All we are doing is putting ourselves in an economic noose, costing citizens & govt more money that it needs to. The youth of today need to experience a V8/V12 engine in all its glory. People need to chill. The world will sort itself. Always has & always will. Environments change. Its the way of things. You wont beat nature.
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02/12/2020 23:27:33 3 1
bbc
It's fairly easy to claim, 'World beating'. He's done it before, then failed.
It's also fairly easy to stick a figure of 68/69% on it, before the decade runs out. He won't be around then. If, by some nightmare accident, he is, he'll be able to blame a cast of thousands. But mostly, why should he care?
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02/12/2020 23:15:59 4 2
bbc
You have been shafted,.. and the UK... Oven ready, no borders, (just rip up the paper work) isn't it funny who has either jumped ship or disappeared,..
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02/12/2020 23:27:58 0 3
bbc
Brexit was the one success. Then the Tories became Labour-in-disguise.
Fox or Farage next time. But we had to vote Tory in '19 to ensure the s*** didn't deny the will of the people - we had no choice at that time.
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02/12/2020 23:40:27 2 1
bbc
You cannot claim Brexit a success until it proves to be more prosperous than what we had, no evidence of that at the moment just speculative hot air
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02/12/2020 23:28:01 2 2
bbc
It's a marathon not a sprint, and by running off into a massive lead, normally means burn out. Lead the way, develop the technology, but don't go bust, attempting something nobody else is doing. Yes, reduce the need for imports of gas, and reliance on middle-easy / Russia, but don't cause long term harm, by pushing too hard, too soon.
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02/12/2020 23:35:00 0 2
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If we had started to do something about this 20 years ago when then we would have plenty of time but politicians have putting this off for years and now it has become a sprint
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02/12/2020 23:29:15 3 4
bbc
The Buffoon-in-Chief is consistently good at only one thing.

Lying.

Tory administrations over the last 10 years have been promising environmental policies but never delivering and sometimes backtracking. I really don't expect things to improve, especially given the economic disasters they have made out of Brexit and Covid.
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02/12/2020 23:58:38 0 4
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Brexit was a success. Covid was a failure because he obeyed the media and their darling, Starmer. But that's because he's in with them really, even though you lot don't like to admit it: you're all the same, freedom-haters
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02/12/2020 23:21:11 11 12
bbc
Unfortunately that means the local councils will lose out on business rates.
86
02/12/2020 23:30:16 10 3
bbc
... but save money because their staff are working from home?
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02/12/2020 23:18:57 53 20
bbc
It's world population we need to control,... but nobody dare say that,
So do the right thing: don't just talk about, do it. You can reduce the population by one right now - and the added bonus is that we won't have to listen to your whinging anymore.
Do it, do it.
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03/12/2020 00:33:43 1 3
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Yawn
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02/12/2020 23:17:16 35 6
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Boris and world beating again? Let’s hope it’s a bit more successful than the COVID track and trace efforts
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02/12/2020 23:31:03 5 21
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yawn
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03/12/2020 00:32:39 1 2
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Yawn
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03/12/2020 15:05:34 0 0
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sleepy times soon Roy.
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02/12/2020 23:23:48 13 15
bbc
Why does every single one of the “it’s population” posts always claim “but you’re not allowed to say that” or similar nonsense?

Population levels have been debated for decades. However, the mechanism for population reduction has never been palatable to people. A party will never be elected on a platform of “we decide who has kids”.

Look at consumption not population.
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02/12/2020 23:32:05 14 1
bbc
Things aren't going to improve until Governments stop measuring "progress" by "gross domestic product" which is consumption multiplied by body count.
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02/12/2020 23:32:27 2 2
bbc
Should point out that 16% of the NHS' budget is spent on problems related to air pollution. Thats £20bn and 40,000 deaths per year!

Imo we should start taxing it properly. Every power station, every car, etc etc... Time to cough up! I don't even drive yet some how I'm also billed because others can't (don't want to) use the train?!
142
02/12/2020 23:56:16 1 1
bbc
Don't ever buy anything from a shop again - you know how it arrives on the shelves, you muppett?
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03/12/2020 00:41:56 0 1
bbc
Greenhouse gas emissions =/= air pollution
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03/12/2020 00:50:05 1 0
bbc
A train isn't always practical e.g. once I used public transport to get from the outskirts of Manchester to Leeds. 1 hour by car, 3 hours by public transport (buses and train). It's not sustainable for commuting.
Now, remote working is much better.
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02/12/2020 23:21:11 11 12
bbc
Unfortunately that means the local councils will lose out on business rates.
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02/12/2020 23:33:00 5 1
bbc
Why do you think that the status quo for the application of business rates cannot be be changed as well? Environmental change needs a complete rethink of everything we do not just cherry picking supposedly easy
headline targets
71
02/12/2020 23:21:11 11 12
bbc
Unfortunately that means the local councils will lose out on business rates.
92
02/12/2020 23:33:03 1 1
bbc
So residents and tenants will have to cough up the difference
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02/12/2020 23:28:01 2 2
bbc
It's a marathon not a sprint, and by running off into a massive lead, normally means burn out. Lead the way, develop the technology, but don't go bust, attempting something nobody else is doing. Yes, reduce the need for imports of gas, and reliance on middle-easy / Russia, but don't cause long term harm, by pushing too hard, too soon.
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02/12/2020 23:35:00 0 2
bbc
If we had started to do something about this 20 years ago when then we would have plenty of time but politicians have putting this off for years and now it has become a sprint
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02/12/2020 23:16:55 2 2
bbc
Do you want to be world leading or not?
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02/12/2020 23:35:02 0 2
bbc
No not really because all it’s going to do is add more taxes more expenses yet our wages if we have a job are getting lower and lower whilst living standards are clearly becoming unaffordable and that’s before Brexit.
So no I don’t
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02/12/2020 23:30:34 1 1
bbc
Is that going to be like our world-beating test-and-trace program then?

It would be amazing if he delivers, but tbh, I won't be holding my breath.
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02/12/2020 23:18:47 3 2
bbc
Another one that has been on the magic mushrooms
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02/12/2020 23:35:19 0 1
bbc
beware of the flowers...
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02/12/2020 23:01:51 52 6
bbc
Words are cheap. There needs to be a move away from perpetual growth in 'productivity' and economy.
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02/12/2020 23:35:30 1 1
bbc
I have been saying this for decades.
Halve the worlds population, save the sustainable world. Simple really. Removed
You're right. We should do everything we can to stop African population growth. Removed
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02/12/2020 23:38:56 2 9
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What a weird thing to say.

Africans are the least likely to be contributing to climate change.
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02/12/2020 22:35:21 93 26
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I hope Johnson sticks to his word as his targets are ambitious and necessary.

Although he doesn’t have much of a track record of sticking to his word.
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02/12/2020 23:36:38 78 8
bbc
He's making promises for other prime ministers to deal with - he won't be in office in 2030
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02/12/2020 23:49:33 4 14
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Farage in office by then - take back control
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03/12/2020 08:07:11 4 1
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I suspect he will not be in office post Spring 2021
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02/12/2020 23:36:58 0 1
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OMG, not another "world leading" project, which by this definition is doomed to failure.