Climate change: 2020 set to be one of the three warmest years on record
02/12/2020 | news | science | 751
Provisional figures indicate that 2020 will be one of the hottest in a record dating back to 1850.
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02/12/2020 15:23:41 47 24
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Don’t judge 2020 entirely on what’s happened, judge it in future on how we learn from what’s happened. We know serious problems exist, climate change and destroying nature being the biggest.

We’ve now learned plenty about how we’ve lived and how we can change for the better; we must act ourselves and challenge all powers with influence to act properly, otherwise things will get worse.
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02/12/2020 15:44:05 51 12
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As we saw with the push to get people back into offices and restaurants over the summer, politicians have little desire to develop a new normal, or maybe a vested interest in retaining the status quo.

However I think many would welcome a reduction in stuff being shipped round the world when it can be produced here, a reduction in commuting etc

Hopefully the pandemic has shifted some old habits.
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02/12/2020 15:24:47 14 27
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Is it coincidence that the day a vaccine is approved, fear-mongers immediately renew their Thunberg fan club suscriptions?
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02/12/2020 15:51:00 3 10
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Ha, ha, ha....didn`t they even try linking covid to climate change? At least they all sing from the same hymn sheet...anti Trump, anti Tory, Anti Brexit, pro climate emergency.....real emergency is to find what`s in the water in the London bubble to make `em all think that way.
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02/12/2020 16:02:45 3 3
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Tin foil shortage?
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02/12/2020 16:26:10 0 2
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Yes, funny that. Almost as if only one thing can happen in a day.....
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02/12/2020 15:29:16 28 25
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Only when humans become extinct will the planet recover, and at this rate it will not be too long....
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jki
02/12/2020 15:35:57 20 20
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You first
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02/12/2020 15:59:54 2 11
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The Earth has been far hotter, CO2 far higher and the climate far more extreme than today when no humans existed

There is no "Recovering" .. it's a figment of your imagination
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02/12/2020 16:40:03 1 8
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With or without humans then just as has happened in the past when there where no humans the earth will cycle between ice ages and periods of global warming...

It has nothing to do with humans and will continue to cycle like that long after we are all gone...
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02/12/2020 17:36:48 3 3
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Yep!!! none of these imbeciles ever address the real issue... TOO MANY PEOPLE!!!
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02/12/2020 15:26:47 4 20
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Well of course 2020 will be hot....we had all those fires raging over several so that’s bound to send temp gauge soaring....ever thought that may have affected figures ??
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02/12/2020 15:34:07 11 6
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So thick
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02/12/2020 16:20:11 2 1
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You can't possibly believe that? nobody is that uninformed...
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02/12/2020 15:32:54 20 13
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Solar, Wind, Tidal, Geothermal put these with good infrastructe, efficiant batteries and large availability of battery storage and we will be well on the way to what we need to stop a climate disaster
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02/12/2020 15:26:47 4 20
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Well of course 2020 will be hot....we had all those fires raging over several so that’s bound to send temp gauge soaring....ever thought that may have affected figures ??
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02/12/2020 15:34:07 11 6
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So thick
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02/12/2020 15:55:41 0 4
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Possibly not so thick if you think about it, burning vegetation creates carbon which goes in to the atmosphere which then impacts on overall temperature, whether than was what the original statement was getting at or not is perhaps up for debate
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02/12/2020 15:34:27 6 31
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More fake news from fake scientists
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02/12/2020 16:24:38 4 1
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More fake comments from fake accounts.
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02/12/2020 15:29:16 28 25
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Only when humans become extinct will the planet recover, and at this rate it will not be too long....
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jki
02/12/2020 15:35:57 20 20
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You first
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02/12/2020 15:39:59 9 9
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What a stupid comment.. please keep your mouth shut, we don't want all that hot air released at once, give the earth a chance to cool down.
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02/12/2020 15:39:25 6 22
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After global lockdown, millions not communiting, air traffic down 80%. Reality is this has very little to do with the combustion engine.
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02/12/2020 15:42:36 14 5
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Its a cummulative effect. You can't just turn it off.
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02/12/2020 16:13:13 0 4
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They'll probably blame that clean air we had in 2020 for warming the planet as the sun can now shine through clearer skies unhindered and warm the planet more quickly.

It's all a load of scaremongering BS, the planet has and is going through a natural cycle of warming since the end of the last ice, it will continue to do so for several thousand years to come with or without man made pollution...
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02/12/2020 16:24:22 2 1
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Air traffic and driving reduced yes but not stopped. Industry and power generation not stopped. We slightly reduced the rate of emissions, that’s all.
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jki
02/12/2020 15:35:57 20 20
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You first
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02/12/2020 15:39:59 9 9
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What a stupid comment.. please keep your mouth shut, we don't want all that hot air released at once, give the earth a chance to cool down.
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02/12/2020 16:03:34 6 6
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That's hilarious! Calling someone else's comment stupid when you've come out with the "only when humans are extinct" drivel!
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02/12/2020 15:42:13 5 6
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Its a shame many countries have destroyed their economies for no net environmental positive impact. It Just goes to show potentially how much we need to change and or sacrifice to reverse the damage done.
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02/12/2020 15:42:26 2 8
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It is still too cold in Scotland and across the UK.

Mind you, if the world warmed up by 5 °.....the UK, Canada, Scandinavia and Russia would be swamped.
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02/12/2020 15:39:25 6 22
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After global lockdown, millions not communiting, air traffic down 80%. Reality is this has very little to do with the combustion engine.
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02/12/2020 15:42:36 14 5
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Its a cummulative effect. You can't just turn it off.
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02/12/2020 15:23:41 47 24
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Don’t judge 2020 entirely on what’s happened, judge it in future on how we learn from what’s happened. We know serious problems exist, climate change and destroying nature being the biggest.

We’ve now learned plenty about how we’ve lived and how we can change for the better; we must act ourselves and challenge all powers with influence to act properly, otherwise things will get worse.
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02/12/2020 15:44:05 51 12
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As we saw with the push to get people back into offices and restaurants over the summer, politicians have little desire to develop a new normal, or maybe a vested interest in retaining the status quo.

However I think many would welcome a reduction in stuff being shipped round the world when it can be produced here, a reduction in commuting etc

Hopefully the pandemic has shifted some old habits.
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02/12/2020 16:21:42 3 2
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if only it were that simple.
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03/12/2020 08:32:52 0 0
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I think it's probably truer to say that many of the lobbyists and donors who own the politicians have an interest only in the immediate future, and they're currently the ones dominating politics in many countries.
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AB
02/12/2020 15:37:14 18 5
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Did the author of this article not think to link to the reports mentioned?
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CEP
02/12/2020 15:47:56 3 16
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I don't disagree average temperature has increased but comparing measurements using today's technology against that of 150 years ago is questionable. Over millions of years the earth has warmed and cooled so are we in one of those warming periods. We always look skywards but does removing fossil fuels from the earths crust also contribute, the core is molten as we know. Just my thoughts
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02/12/2020 16:22:15 3 1
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Thanks for your thoughts, thing is we do have information going back over a long time through various archaeological data. That there has long been variation in temperature isn’t up for debate, the issue is the speed. It’s never been this fast. Nothing has time to adapt.
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02/12/2020 15:47:56 5 9
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I wish the BBC would attach their links to the numbers they use - I don't doubt the article at all but it'd be nice to read more into it. Other news outlets do it, why not the national broadcaster?
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02/12/2020 15:50:42 4 8
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something something bbc something
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02/12/2020 15:48:23 6 13
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I blame that Attenborough fellow for continuously flying around the planet to make TV programs about the harm being done when flying around the planet.
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F10
02/12/2020 15:48:57 0 7
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Current truth decay ground zero = earliest birther conspiracies.
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02/12/2020 15:50:08 4 10
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beeb, there are some truely gargantuan bugs in your hys code
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02/12/2020 15:50:10 107 20
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The high temps in Siberia are concerning, if all that permafrost thaws it's going to release a substantial amount of greenhouse gas.
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02/12/2020 15:54:30 68 151
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Surprisingly enough it IS going to happen no matter what Climate Extremists say or do .. because it's happened over and over again for the past 5 Billion Years

You do understand what history is don't you ?

King Canute anyone ?
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03/12/2020 08:34:34 0 2
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You obviously work for someone or people who are connected to Globalists.... Dont forget the poorest and the weak .. Maybe go out of your way to help people on a regular basis. day in day out instead of waffling on the internet . get a life and do some real good .
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02/12/2020 15:45:09 10 20
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Dear BBC, the Earth has been getting warmer for the past 25,000+ years

As we come out of this Ice Age .. you know where 1km THICK of Ice has melted off both Hemispheres (As it has MANY times in the past 5 billion years) .. each year will most likely be hotter than the last one

Otherwise we'd be going back into an Ice Age

BTW CO2 was HALF the rate it is today when all that Ice melted
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02/12/2020 16:00:19 5 1
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Do you have a link?
It's worse now.
"At the end of the last ice age, CO2 rose from about 180 parts per million (ppm) in the atmosphere to about 260; and today we're at 392," explained lead author Dr Jeremy Shakun.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17611404#:~:text=%22At%20the%20end%20of%20the%20last%20ice%20age%2C,at%20392%2C%22%20explained%20lead%20author%20Dr%20Jeremy%20Shakun.
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02/12/2020 16:01:54 6 1
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You do not know what you're talking about.

Climate modelling takes into account natural factors, solar output etc.

The dramatic rise in temperature we are seeing now is largely down to human activity.

Do you really think that digging up billions of tons of carbon that's taken 100s of millions of years to lay down, & then burning it all in 200 yrs is somehow consequence-free?
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02/12/2020 15:47:56 5 9
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I wish the BBC would attach their links to the numbers they use - I don't doubt the article at all but it'd be nice to read more into it. Other news outlets do it, why not the national broadcaster?
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02/12/2020 15:50:42 4 8
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something something bbc something
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02/12/2020 15:50:48 9 15
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Where would the BBC be without doom and desponsity? No sooner is covid and brexit coming under control dear old aunty now returns to global warming. Is there a whole department of hand wringers at head office?
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02/12/2020 16:16:26 3 1
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Brexit is far from under control, you have just been distracted by covid.
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02/12/2020 15:29:16 28 25
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Only when humans become extinct will the planet recover, and at this rate it will not be too long....
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02/12/2020 15:24:47 14 27
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Is it coincidence that the day a vaccine is approved, fear-mongers immediately renew their Thunberg fan club suscriptions?
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02/12/2020 15:51:00 3 10
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Ha, ha, ha....didn`t they even try linking covid to climate change? At least they all sing from the same hymn sheet...anti Trump, anti Tory, Anti Brexit, pro climate emergency.....real emergency is to find what`s in the water in the London bubble to make `em all think that way.
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03/12/2020 12:17:17 1 0
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The deluded Right really believe they have it right.... fortunately in a shrinking minority.....
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02/12/2020 15:52:14 7 15
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A pointless exercise to reduce global warming when you have countries like China who take no notice of anyone including their own citizens.
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02/12/2020 15:56:01 10 4
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China has said that it intends to be carbon neutral by 2060, so you can't say it's ignoring the issue, even if you don't believe what they say.
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02/12/2020 16:06:07 3 1
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And Ronald McDonald pulling out of the Paris Accord completely!

Lest we forget . . .
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02/12/2020 16:13:55 4 1
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China is in fact one of the leading countries in green initiatives and per capita is vastly lower than places like the USA which have no excuse and emits more than twice the CO2 per person. One thing China can do better than anyone else in the world is evolve - their industry moves at a staggering rate.
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02/12/2020 15:53:35 34 12
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If you've not seen it, a documentary called Ice on Fire is well worth a watch. Science already knows the solutions and technology required (from plant based sea kelp forests right up to direct air capture). Just need the will and market to implement it now.
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02/12/2020 23:10:02 2 10
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Don't forget that it was scientists with their technology that enabled the ruining of the planet in the first place. Let's just stop polluting and keep the scientists with the next batch of great ideas away from our environment please.
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02/12/2020 15:55:35 51 23
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I'm excited about the change to a carbon free future. There is going to be lots of innovation and advances in technology that are going to make us wonder why were ever pulled dirty coal and oil out of the ground in the first place. The plant has been badly affected by what we have done but the future is bright, as long as we embrace the changes that we need to make.
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02/12/2020 16:04:16 9 37
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My god an optimist -the beeb will remove this post soon
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02/12/2020 16:08:57 5 3
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Sorry but I suspect the future is going yo be very dark before it 'lightens'
More & more people, more & more consumption, more & more pollution/carbon as the 80% of the world that is '3rd' world develop. even more still
More competition for ever declining resources, water being key, more & more conflict among humans over those resources compounded by cultural issues

Future does not look 'bright'
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02/12/2020 16:31:03 4 11
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You do know that renewables arent energy dense enough to run industry or recharge all those cars (35million) in the nest 20 years. Mass energy storage that would cover an area greeter than the size of essex would be needed costing trillions. Gas or nuclear is vital.
Someone buy this hippy a tree. Removed
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02/12/2020 22:57:32 1 0
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'The plant has been badly affected by what we have done', i think we have more than one, i can see a few trees outside my window right now, and i have a couple of them in the back shed under lights....but we wont talk about those.
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03/12/2020 10:37:20 0 0
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Dream on.
Johnson follows in a long list of politicians with think tank ideas which what they will remain.
Remember the "white heat of technology"?
Red Robbo and the three day week put paid to those aspirations.
On the scale of things, UK efforts are a side-line when you are up against Russia, China, India, USA, Brazil who will carry on as normal
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02/12/2020 15:34:07 11 6
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So thick
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02/12/2020 15:55:41 0 4
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Possibly not so thick if you think about it, burning vegetation creates carbon which goes in to the atmosphere which then impacts on overall temperature, whether than was what the original statement was getting at or not is perhaps up for debate
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02/12/2020 15:52:14 7 15
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A pointless exercise to reduce global warming when you have countries like China who take no notice of anyone including their own citizens.
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02/12/2020 15:56:01 10 4
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China has said that it intends to be carbon neutral by 2060, so you can't say it's ignoring the issue, even if you don't believe what they say.
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02/12/2020 15:59:28 0 3
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Yes, and Covid didn't originate from China
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02/12/2020 15:50:10 107 20
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The high temps in Siberia are concerning, if all that permafrost thaws it's going to release a substantial amount of greenhouse gas.
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02/12/2020 15:54:30 68 151
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Surprisingly enough it IS going to happen no matter what Climate Extremists say or do .. because it's happened over and over again for the past 5 Billion Years

You do understand what history is don't you ?

King Canute anyone ?
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02/12/2020 16:14:55 43 13
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Grow up!
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02/12/2020 16:17:45 57 9
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You are far less informed on this than you think you are.
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02/12/2020 17:05:54 35 4
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...but CO2 in the atmosphere has NEVER been this high during periods this planet has been habitable. The ice cores tell us that.
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02/12/2020 17:28:58 30 4
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Have you a brain

I do seriously wonder about climate denialism.

Yes earth’s temperatures fluctuate over the millennia but not so quick and we ( humankind ) needs this temperate climate
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02/12/2020 17:47:48 25 4
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You do realise King Canute did that to prove to followers he *wasn’t* omnipotent, don’t you?
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02/12/2020 18:42:37 16 1
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The earth isn't 5 billions years old. History covers the last 8000 years. What you mean is Geology. And whilst climate change has occurred naturally throughout that time the difference now is the rate of change. If you had a brain you'd know that change has two aspects - direction and Speed. The danger now is the accelerated rate of change . Do come back if you ever have anything useful to say.
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02/12/2020 19:19:03 10 1
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I went 100mph in my car once and slowed down safely and was fine. Therefore it is perfectly safe to do 100mph and hitting a concrete wall at 100mph and stopping instantly won’t harm me. Fact!
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02/12/2020 19:40:10 6 1
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"Surprisingly enough it IS going to happen no matter what Climate Extremists say or do .. because it's happened over and over again for the past 5 Billion Years"

That would be impressive considering the Earth only formed 4.5 billion years ago.
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02/12/2020 19:41:16 3 0
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King Canute wasn't trying to stop the tide - he was trying to demonstrate that even a King couldn't stop it.
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02/12/2020 21:47:18 0 0
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5 billion years is geology, not history Muppet.
What an idiot.... Removed
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03/12/2020 07:40:18 1 2
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Good point, well made... Can anyone explain the ice age?
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03/12/2020 11:49:48 3 0
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The Earth is warming, our activities are significantly contributing to that and if you don't want a billion hungry people on your doorstep, migrating to avoid starvation, a fate that will only take a couple of failed harvests, then you had better be on the bandwagon to firstly mitigate and then reverse the damage.
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03/12/2020 12:16:40 2 0
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Actually I am very much aware of the History. Or Pre History in this case.

Do you know whats different?

A race a hairless monkeys digging up and burning all that lovely stored carbon that has accumulated over the Millions of years, speeding up what is a gradual process.

You know what HAS happened in rare cases of it occurring relatively quickly?

Google Permian - Triassic extinction.
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02/12/2020 15:56:50 5 8
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"The warmest six years in global records dating back to 1850 have now all occurred since 2015. "

Since 2015 we have only had 2016-2020 which is 5 years....FIVE years in which we have had the SIX warmest years???????
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02/12/2020 16:01:28 7 2
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Mathematically including 2015 makes 6.
Its a matter of perspective.
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02/12/2020 16:05:40 2 1
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If you include 2015, it's six years
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02/12/2020 16:06:27 0 2
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Good point, unless they counted 2015, but that would mean the last six years have been the warmest six years on record. Something wrong somewhere with the reporting.
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02/12/2020 16:10:16 3 1
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15 16 17 18 19 20. do you need a calculator?
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02/12/2020 17:38:45 0 1
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2015 to 2020 is 6 years. 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020. Go on count them. You can use the fingers on the other hand as well.
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02/12/2020 15:56:58 2 11
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Hasnt been that warm at all this year
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02/12/2020 15:58:01 139 55
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People can whitter on about "the temperature's always changed" as much as they like but that's just ignorant deflection.

We have temperature records going back tens of thousands of years in ice cores a& fossilised tree rings. Temperature has never risen so fast and so steeply than it is now and that's because human activity is causing it.

A charlatan on YouTube does not invalidate this fact.
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02/12/2020 16:09:58 53 37
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what was the cause of the warming at the end of the Younger Dryas period ? ~ 10deg C warming in 40 to 50 years ?
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02/12/2020 16:08:23 15 47
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"Temperature has never risen so fast and so steeply than it is now and that's because human activity is causing it."

You don't have temperature records for the previous Ice Ages, so you have NO IDEA how fast temperatures will rise at the end of an Ice Age

"Climate Science" shows less Ice & loss of Perma Frost accelerates temperature rise - what else did you expect ?
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02/12/2020 16:27:18 7 20
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Errr thats incorrect. Weather balloon data doesnt support your comment. The models all 22 of them predict a rapid rise but that isnt reflected in the weather balloon data.
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02/12/2020 16:34:30 17 27
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Oh dear, suggest you look more closely at the proven scientific evidence of those ice cores and geological record and you will find on a number of occasions the temperature has risen faster or as fast as it right now...

Hint: Start with the Sahara region which not so long ago was a lush green landscape and is now a sandy desert and it all happened very, very quickly indeed...
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02/12/2020 16:47:38 18 2
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Core samples from The Younger Dryas Boundary Termination Event ~11,500 years ago show an increase in temperatures estimated to range from 7° to 12° in a few decades.

We have not seen that rise yet.

This event was precipitated by unusual, extremely rare events, so is not typical of Earth's climate change, so your main point stands. But there is data in the cores that you have overlooked. FYI:)
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02/12/2020 19:17:12 0 8
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You do know that temperatures have also been rising on Mars don't you?
No human has ever been there.
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02/12/2020 20:07:36 0 1
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Climate change is happening, no doubt about it, electric cars and the like won't change anything, the real problem is over population, too many people on the planet
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03/12/2020 07:44:27 0 1
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Solar influence is discounted from this theory then?
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03/12/2020 09:51:17 1 2
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I am afraid you are wrong. The only accurate temperature records for the UK are available from the Met Office's own web site and apart from a limited number locations and start circa 1900. Please remember that accurate measurement was only possible with the invention and wide availability of the mercury thermometer. Ice cores and tree rings are only relevant in the area in which they are located.
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02/12/2020 15:58:26 6 15
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Staggering isn't it that the simple fact we are only here talking about this is because we live in a time of global warming and have done so since the end of the last ice age.

Wonder when the doom & gloom merchants while stop ignoring that scientifically proven fact evidenced by the planets geological record and actually admit to that oh so inconvenient fact that gets in the way for them...
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02/12/2020 16:04:27 4 4
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You must exist in the 0.000000000000000001% of people still holding mad bonkers views like that.
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02/12/2020 15:56:01 10 4
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China has said that it intends to be carbon neutral by 2060, so you can't say it's ignoring the issue, even if you don't believe what they say.
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02/12/2020 15:59:28 0 3
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Yes, and Covid didn't originate from China
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02/12/2020 16:00:06 13 7
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But Donald told us Global Warming doesn't exist! It's one of the reasons he won the election!
Greta 1 Donald nil!
Unfortunately now the rest of us could lose as well.
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02/12/2020 15:45:09 10 20
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Dear BBC, the Earth has been getting warmer for the past 25,000+ years

As we come out of this Ice Age .. you know where 1km THICK of Ice has melted off both Hemispheres (As it has MANY times in the past 5 billion years) .. each year will most likely be hotter than the last one

Otherwise we'd be going back into an Ice Age

BTW CO2 was HALF the rate it is today when all that Ice melted
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02/12/2020 16:00:19 5 1
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Do you have a link?
It's worse now.
"At the end of the last ice age, CO2 rose from about 180 parts per million (ppm) in the atmosphere to about 260; and today we're at 392," explained lead author Dr Jeremy Shakun.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17611404#:~:text=%22At%20the%20end%20of%20the%20last%20ice%20age%2C,at%20392%2C%22%20explained%20lead%20author%20Dr%20Jeremy%20Shakun.
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02/12/2020 16:16:22 0 4
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You've just proved what I've said.
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02/12/2020 16:00:20 3 10
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Yes, it's getting warmer every year. Funny how our summers are still so terrible
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02/12/2020 16:02:49 2 2
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You mean all the wildfires?
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02/12/2020 16:03:48 0 1
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warmer air holds more moisture, hence more chance of rain.
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02/12/2020 16:17:21 1 1
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Trouble is as it gets warmer things end up being either underwater or on fire.
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02/12/2020 15:29:16 28 25
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Only when humans become extinct will the planet recover, and at this rate it will not be too long....
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02/12/2020 15:59:54 2 11
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The Earth has been far hotter, CO2 far higher and the climate far more extreme than today when no humans existed

There is no "Recovering" .. it's a figment of your imagination
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02/12/2020 23:43:26 1 0
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The same as saying that cancer existed long before cigarettes. That means that cigarettes aren't the cause of cancer.
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02/12/2020 16:00:28 14 1
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For those who want to read the report that the article doesn't link to, you can find it here https://library.wmo.int/index.php?lvl=notice_display&id=21804#.X8e50LOnzIU
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02/12/2020 15:56:50 5 8
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"The warmest six years in global records dating back to 1850 have now all occurred since 2015. "

Since 2015 we have only had 2016-2020 which is 5 years....FIVE years in which we have had the SIX warmest years???????
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02/12/2020 16:01:28 7 2
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Mathematically including 2015 makes 6.
Its a matter of perspective.
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02/12/2020 15:45:09 10 20
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Dear BBC, the Earth has been getting warmer for the past 25,000+ years

As we come out of this Ice Age .. you know where 1km THICK of Ice has melted off both Hemispheres (As it has MANY times in the past 5 billion years) .. each year will most likely be hotter than the last one

Otherwise we'd be going back into an Ice Age

BTW CO2 was HALF the rate it is today when all that Ice melted
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02/12/2020 16:01:54 6 1
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You do not know what you're talking about.

Climate modelling takes into account natural factors, solar output etc.

The dramatic rise in temperature we are seeing now is largely down to human activity.

Do you really think that digging up billions of tons of carbon that's taken 100s of millions of years to lay down, & then burning it all in 200 yrs is somehow consequence-free?
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02/12/2020 16:18:34 0 3
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The start and end of Ice Ages are due to changes in the Earth's orbit in the majority

Combined with a general cooling of the Earth over Billions of years

Climate modelling uses Coal output at 500% above what it currently is .. reported by the BBC a few months ago

I seem to know more than you
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02/12/2020 16:02:18 85 19
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Once again I find myself struggling to know what to believe: the general consensus from a panel of global experts, or the 'genuine concerns' of 'NotaBot45121' on the BBC HYS
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02/12/2020 18:32:23 21 46
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The Anthropogenic Global Warming crowd believe that their religion is so important that manipulating the raw data is acceptable. Hence the constant propaganda encapsulated by this article.
Without this manipulation, late 20th century warming would be nothing to write home about.
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MrB
02/12/2020 23:05:09 0 6
bbc
Give the record of "experts" in the last few years: economists and pandemic "experts", I wouldn't put too much weight on what they say.
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02/12/2020 15:24:47 14 27
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Is it coincidence that the day a vaccine is approved, fear-mongers immediately renew their Thunberg fan club suscriptions?
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02/12/2020 16:02:45 3 3
bbc
Tin foil shortage?
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02/12/2020 16:00:20 3 10
bbc
Yes, it's getting warmer every year. Funny how our summers are still so terrible
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02/12/2020 16:02:49 2 2
bbc
You mean all the wildfires?
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02/12/2020 16:05:55 0 2
bbc
What, in Reigate?
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02/12/2020 16:03:23 6 11
bbc
Everything was shut down during due to Covid and we still had one of the warmest years on record. Not much point in bothering trying to reduce our carbon footprint then as it doesn't seem to make any difference. Might as well just enjoy life.
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02/12/2020 16:15:39 1 1
bbc
We slightly reduced the rate of emissions that’s all.
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02/12/2020 16:30:30 1 1
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Yeah to further what Mr Smith was said, the damage we have done to the environment and atmosphere is not expect to heal in the course of a few months because we reduced emissions. Reducing emissions is to prevent further damage, not miraculously heal the damage already caused overnight.
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02/12/2020 16:03:33 3 10
bbc
odd report when according to NOAA toolkit the trend since 2015 is down
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02/12/2020 16:58:12 1 1
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Only if you are totally ignorant of the concept of a trend, as you clearly are!
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02/12/2020 15:39:59 9 9
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What a stupid comment.. please keep your mouth shut, we don't want all that hot air released at once, give the earth a chance to cool down.
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02/12/2020 16:03:34 6 6
bbc
That's hilarious! Calling someone else's comment stupid when you've come out with the "only when humans are extinct" drivel!
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02/12/2020 19:03:20 2 3
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Your clearly not the brightest crayon in the pack are you, extinction is a thing, it happens, more fool you if you think humans are immune to it... okk Stupid
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02/12/2020 16:03:36 2 11
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IMO we cannot deny the fact that climate will change over time and we would be stupid to deny this fact. Also, IMO, placing all the blame on MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE is just as stupid.
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02/12/2020 16:03:43 5 12
bbc
Its a natural cycle thats always happened, only now you have puppets like greta funsponge pushing the narrative.
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02/12/2020 16:08:38 5 1
bbc
No, you are wrong.

The current unprecedented rate of warming is not natural, it's down to human activities. This has been scientifically proven if you care to do some basic research.
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02/12/2020 16:18:52 3 1
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And muppets like you not having the guts to see the scale of the problem (and slagging off a young girl who can)
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02/12/2020 16:03:45 4 9
bbc
2020 in the top 3 hottest years - errm since records began just a couple of hundred years ago. The earth's climate has been fluctuating wildly for millions of years - because it does. The Little Ice Age was a period of cooling that occurred 1300 and 1860 - and we are still coming out of that. Nothing that man can change (not even taxes). Learn to live with it, not to try to change it!.......
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02/12/2020 16:07:31 5 2
bbc
No. You are wrong.

The Little Ice Age, like the Medieval Warm Period were localised and well-understood events that mainly affected the northern hemisphere.

The unprecedented steep rises in temperature that we are witnessing now are global.
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02/12/2020 16:17:48 0 1
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Basically do nothing because we can't understand it, it's too complicated, it won't affect me, BUT it will affect all of our children. And if using less hydrocarbons, which can maybe be used for something else, or doing things more efficiently can help why not do them?
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02/12/2020 16:03:45 5 6
bbc
Sad funny
The global environment & how we manage it is the biggest challenge ahead of humans

Yet 40 comments

Want to moan about brexit or the gov, thousands of comments

Priorities
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02/12/2020 16:00:20 3 10
bbc
Yes, it's getting warmer every year. Funny how our summers are still so terrible
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02/12/2020 16:03:48 0 1
bbc
warmer air holds more moisture, hence more chance of rain.
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02/12/2020 15:55:35 51 23
bbc
I'm excited about the change to a carbon free future. There is going to be lots of innovation and advances in technology that are going to make us wonder why were ever pulled dirty coal and oil out of the ground in the first place. The plant has been badly affected by what we have done but the future is bright, as long as we embrace the changes that we need to make.
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02/12/2020 16:04:16 9 37
bbc
My god an optimist -the beeb will remove this post soon
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02/12/2020 15:58:26 6 15
bbc
Staggering isn't it that the simple fact we are only here talking about this is because we live in a time of global warming and have done so since the end of the last ice age.

Wonder when the doom & gloom merchants while stop ignoring that scientifically proven fact evidenced by the planets geological record and actually admit to that oh so inconvenient fact that gets in the way for them...
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02/12/2020 16:04:27 4 4
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You must exist in the 0.000000000000000001% of people still holding mad bonkers views like that.
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02/12/2020 16:28:32 0 2
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Sadly you must be one of the growing number of ignorant who try but fail to ignore PROVEN FACTS like that...

Or are you still living in an ice age with the central heating turned up full blast...

Facts, especially proven and verifiable facts must be an inconvenience for you eh !!!

PS: Do provide me with evidence that when not in an ice age the earth IS NOT in a period of warming ???
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02/12/2020 16:04:55 16 12
bbc
I find it staggering that there are still people who think that the current change to our climate has nothing to do with human activity. Until these neanderthals depart from this mortal coil, doing something about the problems we have caused is going to be a constant battle.
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02/12/2020 16:05:01 75 12
bbc
World population 7.8Bn and growing daily all wanting a "better" lifestyle. Small wonder there is a problem.
You keep drinking the nitro glycerine and it won’t be a problem. Removed
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02/12/2020 16:15:15 4 14
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OK, I volunteer you, or yours.
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02/12/2020 16:50:41 4 13
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You keep putting 1950’s solutions to 2050’s problems.
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02/12/2020 21:49:57 2 5
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Remarkable the correlation in the names of those who are deniers & those who generally have far right-wing views. Occasionally they'll switch their argument to over population. They usually cite Africa, but the problem is 10% of the world's population:

https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/the-worlds-richest-people-also-emit-the-most-carbon

Don't fall for right-wing lies!
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02/12/2020 22:29:33 4 3
bbc
Right now, the problem is not the 7.8bn who might dream about a better lifestyle. The problem is now, the problem is the wealthy 20% that consumes so much they (we) generates 80% of emissions.
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03/12/2020 08:28:44 1 1
bbc
Can you explain why, if population increase is the cause of the problem, we could manage to ban CFCs and already observe signs of recovery in the ozone later without solving the "problem" of population increase? Because it's pretty obvious that doing nothing didn't work there and doing something did.
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03/12/2020 08:48:56 3 1
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Indeed. 7.8bn today and doubling every 50 odd years.

At this rate, in 200 years the population will be over 100 billion.

It's the elephant in the room, but still people say it's ok and everything would be fine if we all turned vegetarian.
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02/12/2020 16:05:24 40 21
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Impact of global warming will dwarf what we have experienced with COVID 19 so far. Unfortunately there will not be a vaccine to retrospectively prevent the disaster we face in this century. Our government are saying they are committed to a green future, however here we are with Heathrow given the green light by the conservatives to appeal for a 3rd runway on the edge this huge city! Seriously!?
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02/12/2020 16:23:37 28 29
bbc
Life has been far more abundant in Earth's history when the Climate had more CO2 - because that increases plant growth rate - which increases the ability of the Earth to support more life

Conversely most life on Earth died at the height of the last Ice Age 25,000 years ago
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02/12/2020 18:21:37 2 13
bbc
The industrial revolution that was powered by the mass burning of fossil fuels has saved millions of lives. Look at infant mortality.

Look at life expectancy - we just bankrupted ourselves and caused thousands of deaths from cancer and poverty, just to extend the life of some 80 year olds by a few months. The Industrial Revolution nearly double life expectancy.

I'd take carbon over poverty.
And even if there was a vaccine, the climate-change denying cretins would refuse to have it because "it's got aluminium mind control nanobots" and "it impinges on my civil liberties" and all that stupid whining nonsense. Can we just make it legal to slap them?
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02/12/2020 15:56:50 5 8
bbc
"The warmest six years in global records dating back to 1850 have now all occurred since 2015. "

Since 2015 we have only had 2016-2020 which is 5 years....FIVE years in which we have had the SIX warmest years???????
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02/12/2020 16:05:40 2 1
bbc
If you include 2015, it's six years
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02/12/2020 16:02:49 2 2
bbc
You mean all the wildfires?
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02/12/2020 16:05:55 0 2
bbc
What, in Reigate?
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02/12/2020 15:52:14 7 15
bbc
A pointless exercise to reduce global warming when you have countries like China who take no notice of anyone including their own citizens.
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02/12/2020 16:06:07 3 1
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And Ronald McDonald pulling out of the Paris Accord completely!

Lest we forget . . .
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02/12/2020 16:15:35 5 1
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Especially as USA is the worst Co2 emitter per capita by a significant margin. Its remarkable that despite manufacturing a huge chunk of the worlds products China emits less than half the Co2 per person than the USA does. The USA should be absolutely ashamed.
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02/12/2020 16:06:13 1 9
bbc
Yes we are extremely fortunate not to live in an ice age; just enjoy while it lasts. However it is something completely out or our control; as with the virus the attempts to control it do more harm than than the perceived threat. Temperatures just like infections will come down of their own accord if left alone. Lockdowns and masks are the new windfarms; equally useless, equally damaging.
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02/12/2020 15:56:50 5 8
bbc
"The warmest six years in global records dating back to 1850 have now all occurred since 2015. "

Since 2015 we have only had 2016-2020 which is 5 years....FIVE years in which we have had the SIX warmest years???????
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02/12/2020 16:06:27 0 2
bbc
Good point, unless they counted 2015, but that would mean the last six years have been the warmest six years on record. Something wrong somewhere with the reporting.
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jez
02/12/2020 16:06:52 1 10
bbc
China is the biggest polluter of the world as it is producing so
Much for the mass market. What China says is to lead everyone down the garden path. Trump was right to pullout as unfair limits were set but not for China. We need not worry about the climate if China takes us all over with another Covid
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02/12/2020 16:13:36 1 1
bbc
Jez, Oh - talk about string of unconsciousness! Try and make a point.
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02/12/2020 16:06:56 3 11
bbc
The BBC pushing global warming again, but no mention of the the fact that Delhi this year has had its coldest October in 58 years followed by its coldest November in 71 years.
No mention of Labrador having the most November snow in its recorded history. Nor of Toronto having the most Nov snow in its recorded history.
I wonder why they are claiming "warmest" on the basis of figures only to October?
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02/12/2020 16:10:11 6 2
bbc
And my mother smoked 30 fags a day until the day she died, never did her any harm, only the cancer killed her when she was 45....
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02/12/2020 16:12:40 2 1
bbc
DD, it is possible to have a few cold days somewhere and for it also be the world's warmest on record. Think just a little. And the extremes of weather, or climate chaos, is also a sign that something is really going screwball with the climate
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02/12/2020 16:12:53 3 1
bbc
That would be the La Niña referred to in the article.
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02/12/2020 16:07:04 5 9
bbc
Imagine a BBC headline - it wasn't as warm as it was last year.
That's one you won't be seeing
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02/12/2020 16:08:55 9 5
bbc
You will if that happens and the BBC will report it. Fairly and without bias, unlike your posts.
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02/12/2020 16:10:17 1 1
bbc
You can probably find that from 2012.
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02/12/2020 16:03:45 4 9
bbc
2020 in the top 3 hottest years - errm since records began just a couple of hundred years ago. The earth's climate has been fluctuating wildly for millions of years - because it does. The Little Ice Age was a period of cooling that occurred 1300 and 1860 - and we are still coming out of that. Nothing that man can change (not even taxes). Learn to live with it, not to try to change it!.......
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02/12/2020 16:07:31 5 2
bbc
No. You are wrong.

The Little Ice Age, like the Medieval Warm Period were localised and well-understood events that mainly affected the northern hemisphere.

The unprecedented steep rises in temperature that we are witnessing now are global.
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02/12/2020 17:00:34 0 2
bbc
No. You are wrong. The global climate has changed wildly over billions of years.
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02/12/2020 16:08:09 3 10
bbc
Kids, worry about getting a job, a house and no debts. Don't let the BBC deflect you from those aims. As Heraclitus penned centuries ago, nature is in a state of constant flux.
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02/12/2020 16:11:37 6 1
bbc
Just make sure the house is away from any water courses.
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02/12/2020 16:17:12 1 1
bbc
And with mass migration because of climate change making more of the world uninhabitable, kids will need to worry more about getting a job, a house and no debt.
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02/12/2020 16:08:13 5 11
bbc
So with hardly any flights and none of us using / trains / busses and cars to go to work/ travel etc....And it still gets warmer?!

Obviously; As i've always thought?... Global-warming is NOT man-made and the world is naturally getting warmer before it then goes colder in another few decades time.

Think?..From ancient romans growing grapes in the UK to the frozen over Thames in the C17th..
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02/12/2020 16:11:05 6 5
bbc
You have no argument because that didn’t happen. Fewer flights and less driving is far from none. Industry and domestic gas didn’t shut down. We still burnt gas for power in the UK. We slightly reduced the rate of emissions that’s all.
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02/12/2020 16:17:32 3 1
bbc
Global warming continues because of the about of GHG in the atmosphere. It doesn't disappear just because we stop emitting. It's like a tap being turned of for 5 seconds whilst filling a bath.

Please read any basic article about global warming before posting, otherwise you look like a bit of an ignoramus.
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02/12/2020 16:03:43 5 12
bbc
Its a natural cycle thats always happened, only now you have puppets like greta funsponge pushing the narrative.
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02/12/2020 16:08:38 5 1
bbc
No, you are wrong.

The current unprecedented rate of warming is not natural, it's down to human activities. This has been scientifically proven if you care to do some basic research.
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02/12/2020 16:07:04 5 9
bbc
Imagine a BBC headline - it wasn't as warm as it was last year.
That's one you won't be seeing
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02/12/2020 16:08:55 9 5
bbc
You will if that happens and the BBC will report it. Fairly and without bias, unlike your posts.
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02/12/2020 15:55:35 51 23
bbc
I'm excited about the change to a carbon free future. There is going to be lots of innovation and advances in technology that are going to make us wonder why were ever pulled dirty coal and oil out of the ground in the first place. The plant has been badly affected by what we have done but the future is bright, as long as we embrace the changes that we need to make.
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02/12/2020 16:08:57 5 3
bbc
Sorry but I suspect the future is going yo be very dark before it 'lightens'
More & more people, more & more consumption, more & more pollution/carbon as the 80% of the world that is '3rd' world develop. even more still
More competition for ever declining resources, water being key, more & more conflict among humans over those resources compounded by cultural issues

Future does not look 'bright'
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02/12/2020 16:09:18 5 11
bbc
The article states "...act to accelerate the transition to a zero-carbon world...". What will the Vegies eat - plants need CO2?

Plants need CO2 - 150ppm or less they will not survive, 1200ppm and they will flourish (thats why CO2 is pumped into greenhouses). We are currently about 400ppm I think. A little bit more is a good thing.

Attribution:
Inconvenient Facts - Gregory Wrightstone (2017).
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02/12/2020 16:15:22 6 2
bbc
Gregory Wrightstone from the Heartland Institute.
Best know who to trust, I am pretty sure all his crazy stuff has been debunked.
Quick test, is this person taking money from the oil industry for producing propaganda?
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02/12/2020 16:15:35 6 1
bbc
For Christ sake, DONT apply for GCSE's next year, let alone University!
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02/12/2020 16:21:44 3 1
bbc
These figures are for a controlled growth environment, not for the planet in general. Gregory wrightsto es work is also widely disputed and questionable due to his methods of calculation and his limited environmental factors he uses for his report.
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02/12/2020 15:58:01 139 55
bbc
People can whitter on about "the temperature's always changed" as much as they like but that's just ignorant deflection.

We have temperature records going back tens of thousands of years in ice cores a& fossilised tree rings. Temperature has never risen so fast and so steeply than it is now and that's because human activity is causing it.

A charlatan on YouTube does not invalidate this fact.
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02/12/2020 16:09:58 53 37
bbc
what was the cause of the warming at the end of the Younger Dryas period ? ~ 10deg C warming in 40 to 50 years ?
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02/12/2020 16:24:03 31 2
bbc
The Atlantic meridional overturning circulation starting up again after it had failed due to a catastrophic outflow of cold water from Lake Agassiz into the N Atlantic which started the Younger Dryas.
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02/12/2020 16:26:11 15 6
bbc
It's way past your bed time, son!
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02/12/2020 17:30:20 2 2
bbc
And why was that

Massive volcanic action

I do hope we do not have such issues or snowball earth

The difference is that we can avoid the death of billions.
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02/12/2020 17:35:53 0 2
bbc
Mammoth farts ?
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02/12/2020 17:41:08 1 3
bbc
Is it relevant?
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02/12/2020 18:59:52 1 2
bbc
It was the rebound from the cooling effect of draining Lake Aggazis off the Laurentine ice sheet into the Atlantic, with consequent cooling as billions of tons of fresh water disrupted the Gulf Stream.
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02/12/2020 22:48:02 1 0
bbc
an influx of fresh water that slowed the North Atlantic conveyor, that was localized not global
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03/12/2020 12:23:29 2 0
bbc
Younger Dryas was caused by a freak increase in meltwater flooding... Anomalies happen when circumstances fluctuate, fact of the world.

You know what (as far as the planet is concerned) is also a freak event?

A bunch of evolved monkeys digging up and burning millions of years of stored carbon.

Lets sit back and watch the results of it shall we?
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02/12/2020 16:06:56 3 11
bbc
The BBC pushing global warming again, but no mention of the the fact that Delhi this year has had its coldest October in 58 years followed by its coldest November in 71 years.
No mention of Labrador having the most November snow in its recorded history. Nor of Toronto having the most Nov snow in its recorded history.
I wonder why they are claiming "warmest" on the basis of figures only to October?
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02/12/2020 16:10:11 6 2
bbc
And my mother smoked 30 fags a day until the day she died, never did her any harm, only the cancer killed her when she was 45....
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02/12/2020 16:55:09 1 2
bbc
Jez, Oh - talk about string of unconsciousness! Try and make a point.
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02/12/2020 15:56:50 5 8
bbc
"The warmest six years in global records dating back to 1850 have now all occurred since 2015. "

Since 2015 we have only had 2016-2020 which is 5 years....FIVE years in which we have had the SIX warmest years???????
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02/12/2020 16:10:16 3 1
bbc
15 16 17 18 19 20. do you need a calculator?
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02/12/2020 16:07:04 5 9
bbc
Imagine a BBC headline - it wasn't as warm as it was last year.
That's one you won't be seeing
79
02/12/2020 16:10:17 1 1
bbc
You can probably find that from 2012.
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02/12/2020 16:10:23 32 17
bbc
And still the climate change deniers push their brass necks out further to continue to deny the undeniable.

Do they know know shame or at least self respect or self awareness.
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02/12/2020 16:32:28 10 26
bbc
God knows how "Climate Extremists" can use "Rising Temperatures" to justify their extremism .. what else did you expect as we come out of an Ice Age ?

The Earth set in Aspic ?

The Earth get warmer, Ice Caps will melt, the Peram Frost will disappear .. as it has many, many times before
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02/12/2020 16:45:26 1 15
bbc
... and still those deniers of the earths natural cycles of going between ice ages and periods of global warming will push their collective brass brain cell out and pretend to themselves and deny to themselves the simple facts of planet earths natural cycles...

Do they know anything or at least have any self respect to not make such fools of themselves endlessly trying to ignore and deny facts...
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02/12/2020 17:38:54 0 8
bbc
And still, blithering idiots ignore the real issue.. TOO MANY PEOPLE!! Get a life sunshine!!!
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02/12/2020 16:08:13 5 11
bbc
So with hardly any flights and none of us using / trains / busses and cars to go to work/ travel etc....And it still gets warmer?!

Obviously; As i've always thought?... Global-warming is NOT man-made and the world is naturally getting warmer before it then goes colder in another few decades time.

Think?..From ancient romans growing grapes in the UK to the frozen over Thames in the C17th..
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02/12/2020 16:11:05 6 5
bbc
You have no argument because that didn’t happen. Fewer flights and less driving is far from none. Industry and domestic gas didn’t shut down. We still burnt gas for power in the UK. We slightly reduced the rate of emissions that’s all.
Leftie 1diot Removed
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02/12/2020 16:08:09 3 10
bbc
Kids, worry about getting a job, a house and no debts. Don't let the BBC deflect you from those aims. As Heraclitus penned centuries ago, nature is in a state of constant flux.
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02/12/2020 16:11:37 6 1
bbc
Just make sure the house is away from any water courses.
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02/12/2020 16:14:29 0 2
bbc
But what if you live on a houseboat ?
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02/12/2020 16:12:22 4 7
bbc
We had tropical forests in the past, ice age, just earth's big circle,, big problem is the population, out of control.
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02/12/2020 16:20:25 4 3
bbc
I'll bet you'll spit out your filthy rich dummy the moment someone comes along to suggest constructive long term ways of controlling population.

Your version no doubt involves exterminating vast swatches of human existence.

Unless you have a more humane, inclusive, long term & forward thinking policy of reducing birth rates, I'm pretty sure you wont be suggesting we start the cull with you, eh!
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02/12/2020 16:06:56 3 11
bbc
The BBC pushing global warming again, but no mention of the the fact that Delhi this year has had its coldest October in 58 years followed by its coldest November in 71 years.
No mention of Labrador having the most November snow in its recorded history. Nor of Toronto having the most Nov snow in its recorded history.
I wonder why they are claiming "warmest" on the basis of figures only to October?
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02/12/2020 16:12:40 2 1
bbc
DD, it is possible to have a few cold days somewhere and for it also be the world's warmest on record. Think just a little. And the extremes of weather, or climate chaos, is also a sign that something is really going screwball with the climate
67
02/12/2020 16:06:56 3 11
bbc
The BBC pushing global warming again, but no mention of the the fact that Delhi this year has had its coldest October in 58 years followed by its coldest November in 71 years.
No mention of Labrador having the most November snow in its recorded history. Nor of Toronto having the most Nov snow in its recorded history.
I wonder why they are claiming "warmest" on the basis of figures only to October?
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02/12/2020 16:12:53 3 1
bbc
That would be the La Niña referred to in the article.
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02/12/2020 15:39:25 6 22
bbc
After global lockdown, millions not communiting, air traffic down 80%. Reality is this has very little to do with the combustion engine.
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02/12/2020 16:13:13 0 4
bbc
They'll probably blame that clean air we had in 2020 for warming the planet as the sun can now shine through clearer skies unhindered and warm the planet more quickly.

It's all a load of scaremongering BS, the planet has and is going through a natural cycle of warming since the end of the last ice, it will continue to do so for several thousand years to come with or without man made pollution...
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02/12/2020 23:45:18 0 0
bbc
Except until a couple of hundred years ago the average trend was down towards the next ice age.
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jez
02/12/2020 16:06:52 1 10
bbc
China is the biggest polluter of the world as it is producing so
Much for the mass market. What China says is to lead everyone down the garden path. Trump was right to pullout as unfair limits were set but not for China. We need not worry about the climate if China takes us all over with another Covid
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02/12/2020 16:13:36 1 1
bbc
Jez, Oh - talk about string of unconsciousness! Try and make a point.
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02/12/2020 15:52:14 7 15
bbc
A pointless exercise to reduce global warming when you have countries like China who take no notice of anyone including their own citizens.
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02/12/2020 16:13:55 4 1
bbc
China is in fact one of the leading countries in green initiatives and per capita is vastly lower than places like the USA which have no excuse and emits more than twice the CO2 per person. One thing China can do better than anyone else in the world is evolve - their industry moves at a staggering rate.
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02/12/2020 15:58:01 139 55
bbc
People can whitter on about "the temperature's always changed" as much as they like but that's just ignorant deflection.

We have temperature records going back tens of thousands of years in ice cores a& fossilised tree rings. Temperature has never risen so fast and so steeply than it is now and that's because human activity is causing it.

A charlatan on YouTube does not invalidate this fact.
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02/12/2020 16:08:23 15 47
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"Temperature has never risen so fast and so steeply than it is now and that's because human activity is causing it."

You don't have temperature records for the previous Ice Ages, so you have NO IDEA how fast temperatures will rise at the end of an Ice Age

"Climate Science" shows less Ice & loss of Perma Frost accelerates temperature rise - what else did you expect ?
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02/12/2020 16:25:40 44 8
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We have temperature records going back 100s of 1000s of years from ice cores, so yes we do know how temperatures rise after an ice age. Do keep up.
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02/12/2020 17:44:15 7 1
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As a professional Quaternary Geologist, I can promise you we do through highly reliable proxy records. I specialise in fossil pollen, but there’s plenty of other fossil data, isotope data etc. including the ice core data mentioned by others here. It might have passed you by, but experts read the BBC as well.
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02/12/2020 18:44:59 5 1
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Just because you don't understand the science or are unaware of how ancient climates can be reconstructed doesn't means it's wrong. It does mean that you're spouting ignorant nonsense .
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World population 7.8Bn and growing daily all wanting a "better" lifestyle. Small wonder there is a problem.
You keep drinking the nitro glycerine and it won’t be a problem. Removed
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As an aside, For those unaware, this is a reference to a goon show episode where major Bloodnock drinks nitro glycerine thinking it’s saké “thirsty work this drinking”
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02/12/2020 16:11:37 6 1
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Just make sure the house is away from any water courses.
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02/12/2020 16:14:29 0 2
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But what if you live on a houseboat ?
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Ah the Noah approach.... I like it ;)
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Surprisingly enough it IS going to happen no matter what Climate Extremists say or do .. because it's happened over and over again for the past 5 Billion Years

You do understand what history is don't you ?

King Canute anyone ?
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02/12/2020 16:14:55 43 13
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Grow up!
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02/12/2020 16:20:46 13 56
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You do realise ignoring facts and history is childish ?
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03/12/2020 07:44:48 0 2
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A Logic denier....
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World population 7.8Bn and growing daily all wanting a "better" lifestyle. Small wonder there is a problem.
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02/12/2020 16:15:15 4 14
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OK, I volunteer you, or yours.
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02/12/2020 16:09:18 5 11
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The article states "...act to accelerate the transition to a zero-carbon world...". What will the Vegies eat - plants need CO2?

Plants need CO2 - 150ppm or less they will not survive, 1200ppm and they will flourish (thats why CO2 is pumped into greenhouses). We are currently about 400ppm I think. A little bit more is a good thing.

Attribution:
Inconvenient Facts - Gregory Wrightstone (2017).
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02/12/2020 16:15:22 6 2
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Gregory Wrightstone from the Heartland Institute.
Best know who to trust, I am pretty sure all his crazy stuff has been debunked.
Quick test, is this person taking money from the oil industry for producing propaganda?
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The article states "...act to accelerate the transition to a zero-carbon world...". What will the Vegies eat - plants need CO2?

Plants need CO2 - 150ppm or less they will not survive, 1200ppm and they will flourish (thats why CO2 is pumped into greenhouses). We are currently about 400ppm I think. A little bit more is a good thing.

Attribution:
Inconvenient Facts - Gregory Wrightstone (2017).
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02/12/2020 16:15:35 6 1
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For Christ sake, DONT apply for GCSE's next year, let alone University!
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02/12/2020 16:46:01 1 2
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To late son, to late. (and your apostrophes are in the wrong place - as are your commas) ;-(
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02/12/2020 16:06:07 3 1
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And Ronald McDonald pulling out of the Paris Accord completely!

Lest we forget . . .
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Especially as USA is the worst Co2 emitter per capita by a significant margin. Its remarkable that despite manufacturing a huge chunk of the worlds products China emits less than half the Co2 per person than the USA does. The USA should be absolutely ashamed.
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02/12/2020 16:15:35 5 7
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Aw come on. CC deniers don’t exist anymore. They used to be those guys with the funny haircuts that hung out with the flat-earthers. Until the flat-earthers realised they were giving them a bad name and asked them to leave. Even Donald doesn’t want them any more.
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02/12/2020 16:03:23 6 11
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Everything was shut down during due to Covid and we still had one of the warmest years on record. Not much point in bothering trying to reduce our carbon footprint then as it doesn't seem to make any difference. Might as well just enjoy life.
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02/12/2020 16:15:39 1 1
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We slightly reduced the rate of emissions that’s all.
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Where would the BBC be without doom and desponsity? No sooner is covid and brexit coming under control dear old aunty now returns to global warming. Is there a whole department of hand wringers at head office?
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02/12/2020 16:16:26 3 1
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Brexit is far from under control, you have just been distracted by covid.
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You have no argument because that didn’t happen. Fewer flights and less driving is far from none. Industry and domestic gas didn’t shut down. We still burnt gas for power in the UK. We slightly reduced the rate of emissions that’s all.
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