Boris Johnson able to call early election under proposed new law
01/12/2020 | news | politics | 354
The proposed law would do away with the five year set period between general elections.
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jon
02/12/2020 11:22:40 7 6
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Nicola Sturgeon wants an indyRef2 election on a date of her choosing so why not the PM? The Lib Dems pushed through the current legislation when in coalition with the Tories and look what gridlock and parliamentary chaos it caused.
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02/12/2020 16:03:57 1 0
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Little tip: general elections and referendums are not the same thing. No matter what Brexiters say...
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02/12/2020 11:23:07 57 28
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Boris should get lost, he is a clown, I don't trust anything he says and does
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02/12/2020 11:38:43 33 27
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Brilliant incisive analysis of the impact of the repeal of the Fixed Term Parliament Act - A lot of thought has obviously gone into your comment.
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02/12/2020 11:56:33 2 7
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Alex, you obviously have a perceptive mind but for some reason, don't explain your convictions. How are simple folk meant to make a judgement?
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02/12/2020 13:45:49 7 2
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you are far from alone.
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03/12/2020 08:40:18 0 0
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You don't appear to be the sort I would trust.
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02/12/2020 11:28:56 7 9
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The situation last year was so ironic when we had an opposition calling for an election t every opportunity and then they were the ones holding up the process.

The 5 year fixed term is a good idea but impractical in practice
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02/12/2020 11:31:15 39 17
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Call an election for next week, Boris. I dare you.
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02/12/2020 11:37:16 21 18
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Why?
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02/12/2020 13:11:43 6 11
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Keir would find a way to abstain from that as well...
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DSA
02/12/2020 20:33:50 0 1
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Are you really so dumb as to think that the Labour party has anything but a 0.000000001% chance of winning?
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02/12/2020 11:32:07 35 19
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I don't think he will call an early election. It's much more important to him know that austerity continues so he and his Etonian elite friends can rinse the treasury of as much taxpayer money as possible (either directly of via dodgy contracts). If he calls an early election, there's a good chance he'll be booted out before they've finished the job.
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02/12/2020 13:34:19 18 9
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Without Cummings behind him he is a dead man walking. He never did have a clue but said the right thing to the minority Brexit supoorting public. When this all goes wrong, he will cling on for grim death knowing full well that only a miracle will save him. Bet he wishes that Corbyn was still head of the Labour Party
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02/12/2020 11:33:59 79 37
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Please, please, please give the country the chance to get rid of the snout in trough, bungs for chums, vileness that is this clown party.
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02/12/2020 11:36:59 37 16
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Just over 4 years to wait for your chance.
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02/12/2020 13:03:29 8 0
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Boris intends giving you that opportunity. I have little respect for politicians of all parties but I am resigned to voting for the party that inflicts least damage. The ONLY solution is revolutionary change in the way election candidates are selected. Candidates should be required to have track records of achievement in the real world, otherwise we will continue to be led by donkeys!
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02/12/2020 14:01:38 3 4
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And replace them with who.
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02/12/2020 17:14:41 1 1
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Who do you suggest I vote for? Labour no way!
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Jo
02/12/2020 23:16:31 1 0
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I agree with your sentiments but am amazed to hear that support for them is still strong. Also never understimate the tory election machine and the blind loyalty of those battleaxes in blue rosettes. Labour has a little way to go to rid themselves of Corbynista determination to lose lections even if their leadeer is sound now the party still seems a bit quaint at grass roots level
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02/12/2020 11:36:03 8 7
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Good, it was has been a disaster and was put there to stop the early exit of the Liberals from Government. It paralysed Westminster and kept a zombie Parliament (appropriately named as it was stuffed with Labour's walking dead as the next election revealed) sitting to the nations detriment. Not having one it disadvantages no one party and is a return to s system that has served the country well.
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02/12/2020 12:15:20 3 3
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Westminster got more bills passed under the coalition than in the paliament after it. Any paralysis came from the foaming Br*xit brigade with their demands.
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02/12/2020 11:36:48 5 8
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Nothing wrong with fixed term Parliaments.
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02/12/2020 11:23:07 57 28
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Boris should get lost, he is a clown, I don't trust anything he says and does
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02/12/2020 11:38:43 33 27
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Brilliant incisive analysis of the impact of the repeal of the Fixed Term Parliament Act - A lot of thought has obviously gone into your comment.
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02/12/2020 11:44:56 14 7
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He is not wrong though
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02/12/2020 12:18:36 3 6
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It's representative of the politics-of-envy brigade here.
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02/12/2020 14:31:07 4 1
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More cheating bu a liar - do you want a picture ?!
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CH
02/12/2020 11:41:08 12 5
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Good call an election now please!
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02/12/2020 11:50:31 8 11
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and just who do you consider would have done better ? ..................... can't come up with anyone - no , thought not...............................................
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02/12/2020 11:42:22 19 11
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Call one for next week...........................please!
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02/12/2020 15:47:34 11 3
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Boris would have no hesitation in using electoral law for party political advantage. Were Labour in power I would expect no different.

Politicians will do almost anything to win, and then maintain, power.

Far from stalling progress, the 5 year parliament act stopped corrupt behaviour on the part of our political elite!
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02/12/2020 11:33:59 79 37
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Please, please, please give the country the chance to get rid of the snout in trough, bungs for chums, vileness that is this clown party.
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02/12/2020 11:36:59 37 16
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Just over 4 years to wait for your chance.
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02/12/2020 11:45:44 11 3
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3 and a bit actually
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02/12/2020 16:00:10 4 3
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Doubt the UK in it's current form will survive 4 more years of this level of incompetence and the apparent graft that goes along with the current administration.
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03/12/2020 09:51:11 0 0
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Or a lot longer if section 4 ("Automatic dissolution of Parliament after five years") is trashed. I think we should be VERY worried if this happens. Also what would happen (with the bill as it is) if a motion of no confidence in the govcernment is carried?
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02/12/2020 11:31:15 39 17
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Call an election for next week, Boris. I dare you.
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02/12/2020 11:37:16 21 18
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Why?
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02/12/2020 12:01:33 6 1
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Why not ? Might get lucky and find one with morals.
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02/12/2020 13:34:55 8 2
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Agreed, let's wait until 1st February then after 1 month of chaos and job loses the Brexit penny will finally start to drop
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02/12/2020 13:47:34 11 2
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1. So he can escape the mess he made.

2. So we can escape the mess he made.
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02/12/2020 16:06:10 1 0
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If he doesn't get one in before the economic damage of Brexit and the Covid crisis really begins to hit home then the Tories will have that hung round their necks for a generation or more to come and they are dead.
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02/12/2020 16:21:28 1 0
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Exactly ... why? What a deluded man
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Removed
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02/12/2020 11:38:43 33 27
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Brilliant incisive analysis of the impact of the repeal of the Fixed Term Parliament Act - A lot of thought has obviously gone into your comment.
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02/12/2020 11:44:56 14 7
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He is not wrong though
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02/12/2020 11:36:59 37 16
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Just over 4 years to wait for your chance.
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02/12/2020 11:45:44 11 3
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3 and a bit actually
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02/12/2020 12:01:46 15 0
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And hopefully even less than that if the act is scrapped.
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02/12/2020 12:18:16 4 0
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Dec 2024 is only 3 nd a bit if the bit is 12 months!
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02/12/2020 11:47:44 5 13
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Boris will walk in again after Labour splits in two and starmer gets rumbled for trying to copy Blair! And for the limpdems!
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02/12/2020 11:49:38 15 5
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But the Tories are more likely to split in two, as we saw in the vote yesterday.
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02/12/2020 14:14:50 1 0
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Don't think Johnson will be around for the next election.
Who in the Tory party will vote for him, best friend Labour coul have. ?
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02/12/2020 11:48:11 15 10
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Good. The fixed term parliament act was a total, unmitigated disaster. Never again should a small cabal of MPs be able to stymie parliament and render it dysfunctional against the wishes of the people who voted for them.
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02/12/2020 12:12:21 8 3
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erm...didn't protect Teresa did it?
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02/12/2020 11:47:44 5 13
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Boris will walk in again after Labour splits in two and starmer gets rumbled for trying to copy Blair! And for the limpdems!
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02/12/2020 11:49:38 15 5
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But the Tories are more likely to split in two, as we saw in the vote yesterday.
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CH
02/12/2020 11:41:08 12 5
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Good call an election now please!
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02/12/2020 11:50:31 8 11
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and just who do you consider would have done better ? ..................... can't come up with anyone - no , thought not...............................................
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02/12/2020 12:00:23 5 2
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Bricky McHousebrick - tells less Lies too,
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02/12/2020 11:51:17 9 3
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MMMM........I doubt he will, The general opinion of the electorate I should hope would be ONCE BITTEN twice shy ........ he would do petter to open a wee shop selling Pork Pies to the Gulls
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02/12/2020 11:52:28 12 13
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Perhaps he should ... then Starmer and the Labour party will actually have to come up with some policies instead of just sitting on the fence all the time.
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02/12/2020 11:53:18 2 2
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In our system coalitions arise to deal with political uncertainty & are by nature temporary. Imo FTP Act was a self-serving 'fix' to keep Cameron/Clegg coalition in power for a full five years [far longer than they deserved or was necessary].
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02/12/2020 11:55:05 3 14
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Labour will be petrified.
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02/12/2020 12:11:22 10 0
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You wish. As soons as the post COVID desolation and tax rises come through, watch the Northern wall take the brunt. There are families raiding bins for food in Burnley already.
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02/12/2020 11:23:07 57 28
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Boris should get lost, he is a clown, I don't trust anything he says and does
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02/12/2020 11:56:33 2 7
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Alex, you obviously have a perceptive mind but for some reason, don't explain your convictions. How are simple folk meant to make a judgement?
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02/12/2020 12:05:22 7 7
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lockdowns based on so called scientific evidence which Doris is unable to share with the public, no need to justify, just do as you are told, crush business, never listen to other scientists, other opinions, or the suffering public, kill hundreds of other people by not treating them for cancer and other illnesses, ignore the increasing suicides, I can go on forever, but what is the point?
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02/12/2020 11:58:59 2 3
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FTP was a temporary measure to reassure the LibDems that they wouldn't have the rug taken away from under their feet.
They should do one of 2 things...
Either, amend the FTP bill to only be enforceable in a coalition government setting.
Or scrap it altogether.
I prefer to amend it for Coalition governments
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02/12/2020 11:50:31 8 11
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and just who do you consider would have done better ? ..................... can't come up with anyone - no , thought not...............................................
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02/12/2020 12:00:23 5 2
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Bricky McHousebrick - tells less Lies too,
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02/12/2020 11:37:16 21 18
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Why?
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02/12/2020 12:01:33 6 1
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Why not ? Might get lucky and find one with morals.
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02/12/2020 11:45:44 11 3
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3 and a bit actually
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02/12/2020 12:01:46 15 0
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And hopefully even less than that if the act is scrapped.
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02/12/2020 12:03:23 11 3
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Perhaps PR would bring some accountability.

Sorry, what am I saying.
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02/12/2020 12:10:12 13 14
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You had a referendum on PR as part of the coalition. We voted against it, so respect the will of the people and move on - it's not best out of 3.
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02/12/2020 11:56:33 2 7
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Alex, you obviously have a perceptive mind but for some reason, don't explain your convictions. How are simple folk meant to make a judgement?
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02/12/2020 12:05:22 7 7
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lockdowns based on so called scientific evidence which Doris is unable to share with the public, no need to justify, just do as you are told, crush business, never listen to other scientists, other opinions, or the suffering public, kill hundreds of other people by not treating them for cancer and other illnesses, ignore the increasing suicides, I can go on forever, but what is the point?
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02/12/2020 12:03:23 11 3
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Perhaps PR would bring some accountability.

Sorry, what am I saying.
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02/12/2020 12:10:12 13 14
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You had a referendum on PR as part of the coalition. We voted against it, so respect the will of the people and move on - it's not best out of 3.
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02/12/2020 12:11:46 10 3
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No we didn't. We had a refferendum on a mangkled version of Pr that would not have done any good. It failed partly because of how far it was from PR.
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02/12/2020 12:51:19 4 0
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yes but wasnt cheater scummings involved in that?
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02/12/2020 12:51:18 8 0
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Wrong! Do some research, Miles. You also need to realise that democracy isn't a one-off event that gets put back in the box once you've achieved what you wanted with it.
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02/12/2020 13:00:13 6 0
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The 'wiuw of da gwate Bwitish puypaw' can and does change - that is democracy, not your warped and twisted version that seems to make things set in stone for all eternity. Society needs to beable to adapt to changing circumstances, democracy allows this, so why don't you think it should?
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02/12/2020 14:02:05 5 0
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no we didn't, it was on AV, look it up.
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02/12/2020 14:34:26 0 0
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I will when you do - move on :)
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02/12/2020 11:55:05 3 14
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Labour will be petrified.
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02/12/2020 12:11:22 10 0
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You wish. As soons as the post COVID desolation and tax rises come through, watch the Northern wall take the brunt. There are families raiding bins for food in Burnley already.
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02/12/2020 12:33:41 2 1
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Serve them right. Sometimes a lesson needs to be taught.
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02/12/2020 14:17:17 2 0
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When Marie Antoinette said " let them eat cake" she hadn't heard of brexit. all eaten already.
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02/12/2020 12:10:12 13 14
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You had a referendum on PR as part of the coalition. We voted against it, so respect the will of the people and move on - it's not best out of 3.
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02/12/2020 12:11:46 10 3
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No we didn't. We had a refferendum on a mangkled version of Pr that would not have done any good. It failed partly because of how far it was from PR.
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02/12/2020 12:33:15 1 8
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PR is hailed as better democracy by the very people that will not accept a democratic referendum vote!!
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02/12/2020 12:42:04 1 7
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It is PR - the version was chosen deliberately by Cameron to scupper the chances by sowing 'project fear'. Remind you of a certain playbook?

As a vote it is binding, so don't go asking for 'different version' - we had enough of that
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02/12/2020 11:48:11 15 10
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Good. The fixed term parliament act was a total, unmitigated disaster. Never again should a small cabal of MPs be able to stymie parliament and render it dysfunctional against the wishes of the people who voted for them.
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02/12/2020 12:12:21 8 3
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erm...didn't protect Teresa did it?
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02/12/2020 11:36:03 8 7
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Good, it was has been a disaster and was put there to stop the early exit of the Liberals from Government. It paralysed Westminster and kept a zombie Parliament (appropriately named as it was stuffed with Labour's walking dead as the next election revealed) sitting to the nations detriment. Not having one it disadvantages no one party and is a return to s system that has served the country well.
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02/12/2020 12:15:20 3 3
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Westminster got more bills passed under the coalition than in the paliament after it. Any paralysis came from the foaming Br*xit brigade with their demands.
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02/12/2020 12:16:17 12 7
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You'd have to be morally bankrupt to vote for Johnson next time. How many more times are the electorate going to mess with the national interest, twice in the last four years, granted the choices have been stark, but let's hope people have learnt something.
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02/12/2020 12:29:39 2 5
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no other choice
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02/12/2020 12:19:54 2 1
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You'd have to be totally brain dead to vote for any of the opposition right now.
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02/12/2020 12:17:49 24 10
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Those calling for an election are wasting their time. This country has proved time and again since 2010 that it is determined to destroy itself. I don't know how we turn the corner, but we're simply not ready yet. Trump's defeat gives us hope, but I fear that our problems go far deeper.
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02/12/2020 11:45:44 11 3
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3 and a bit actually
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02/12/2020 12:18:16 4 0
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Dec 2024 is only 3 nd a bit if the bit is 12 months!
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02/12/2020 16:01:52 0 0
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Well no, the last 6 weeks would generally be the campaigning for the election so parliament would be closed for that period.
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02/12/2020 20:27:36 1 0
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The law says it's the first Thursday in May in the fifth calander year after a General Election.
The election was held in Dec 2019, next election is therefore May 2024.
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02/12/2020 11:38:43 33 27
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Brilliant incisive analysis of the impact of the repeal of the Fixed Term Parliament Act - A lot of thought has obviously gone into your comment.
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02/12/2020 12:18:36 3 6
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It's representative of the politics-of-envy brigade here.
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02/12/2020 12:21:17 0 2
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The FTP act is far from perfect, but in my opinion, a step in the right direction to ensure, in law, that there must be elections.
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02/12/2020 12:44:46 0 1
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Various acts have done this since the seventeenth century.
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02/12/2020 12:25:17 5 1
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I wouldn't call one yet , you would never win. Coming from a Tory voter.
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02/12/2020 12:25:55 17 6
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Interesting that even with Covid and Brexit, this bill is seen as a priority. It gives the Tories a chance to hold an election under a new leader before the rot sets in. Otherwise they could find themselves clinging to power like Major in the 90s.
You are forgetting Boundary Changes that will kick in around 2022. Thes make a Labour victory without the SNP that too has pressed the Self Destruct button with the sordid Salmond sex affair nigh on impossible. It is all in the arithmetic my dear cat. Removed
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02/12/2020 12:28:26 1 1
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‘Prevent parliamentary stalemate’
‘Confidence in what to expect’

So this will fix what the problems are now, because this isn’t working either?

Broken to broken and back to broken...

History on repeat
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02/12/2020 12:16:17 12 7
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You'd have to be morally bankrupt to vote for Johnson next time. How many more times are the electorate going to mess with the national interest, twice in the last four years, granted the choices have been stark, but let's hope people have learnt something.
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02/12/2020 12:29:39 2 5
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no other choice
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02/12/2020 12:43:32 0 1
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And that's the tragedy of it for us all.
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02/12/2020 12:11:46 10 3
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No we didn't. We had a refferendum on a mangkled version of Pr that would not have done any good. It failed partly because of how far it was from PR.
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02/12/2020 12:33:15 1 8
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PR is hailed as better democracy by the very people that will not accept a democratic referendum vote!!
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02/12/2020 12:57:55 7 0
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Don't be silly - no one doesn't accept the referendum result - we left already! However, democracy allows us to object to it, protest and campaign to rejoin. If you have a problem with that you should move to China or North Korea where they employ the kind of democracy you seem to want.
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02/12/2020 14:03:03 2 0
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which democratic referendum vote was that?
Don't remember it.
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02/12/2020 12:11:22 10 0
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You wish. As soons as the post COVID desolation and tax rises come through, watch the Northern wall take the brunt. There are families raiding bins for food in Burnley already.
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02/12/2020 12:33:41 2 1
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Serve them right. Sometimes a lesson needs to be taught.
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02/12/2020 13:02:30 2 0
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Absolutely, pass the popcorn...
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02/12/2020 12:33:54 2 8
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There is NO opposition! what is there couldn't Run Ny nose!
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02/12/2020 12:42:53 2 1
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Is your Nose that big?
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02/12/2020 12:35:09 10 3
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Why can't we have a parliament of independents only? The traditional parties are stuck in historical mindsets that inevitably always lead only to petty tribal point-scoring, rather than wider consensus. Could the public be given a say (perhaps midway through a parliamentary session) to call for another election?
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02/12/2020 12:36:33 9 2
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See Boris's waited for his 6th question, punchline joke again today. Do give up the day job.....
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02/12/2020 12:51:06 4 3
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Captain Hindsight promoted to General Indecision - that's quite good really.
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02/12/2020 12:39:37 7 0
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If you have a party all about business at the expense of the middle and lower classes....
And a party that represents those middle and lower classes at the expense of business
When combined is representative of the majority
To end the chaos at both ends means they need to work together
With those smaller parties
Then you will see an electorate that doesn’t use a vote out of spite, which happens
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02/12/2020 12:57:09 14 3
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Hence PR being a much better option than FPTP.
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02/12/2020 12:11:46 10 3
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No we didn't. We had a refferendum on a mangkled version of Pr that would not have done any good. It failed partly because of how far it was from PR.
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02/12/2020 12:42:04 1 7
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It is PR - the version was chosen deliberately by Cameron to scupper the chances by sowing 'project fear'. Remind you of a certain playbook?

As a vote it is binding, so don't go asking for 'different version' - we had enough of that
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02/12/2020 13:01:12 5 0
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Wrong again! If we want PR, we have every right to ask for it, because this is a democracy, and there's nothing you can do about it - get over it.
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02/12/2020 12:33:54 2 8
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There is NO opposition! what is there couldn't Run Ny nose!
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02/12/2020 12:42:53 2 1
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Is your Nose that big?
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02/12/2020 12:29:39 2 5
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no other choice
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02/12/2020 12:43:32 0 1
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And that's the tragedy of it for us all.
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02/12/2020 12:21:17 0 2
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The FTP act is far from perfect, but in my opinion, a step in the right direction to ensure, in law, that there must be elections.
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02/12/2020 12:44:46 0 1
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Various acts have done this since the seventeenth century.
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02/12/2020 14:11:37 0 0
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Cromwell did well on that. Very effective leadership change.
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02/12/2020 12:16:17 12 7
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You'd have to be morally bankrupt to vote for Johnson next time. How many more times are the electorate going to mess with the national interest, twice in the last four years, granted the choices have been stark, but let's hope people have learnt something.
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02/12/2020 12:19:54 2 1
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You'd have to be totally brain dead to vote for any of the opposition right now.
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02/12/2020 13:22:28 1 0
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They stand a chance then!
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02/12/2020 12:10:12 13 14
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You had a referendum on PR as part of the coalition. We voted against it, so respect the will of the people and move on - it's not best out of 3.
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02/12/2020 12:51:19 4 0
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yes but wasnt cheater scummings involved in that?
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02/12/2020 12:53:08 11 7
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Fixed term of four years like the US should be written into a UK constitution.

The Tories are now seeking an unfair advantage and a opportunistic power grab.

It is an affront to democracy MP’s should rebel in massive numbers and the Supreme Court should stop it.
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02/12/2020 12:56:44 20 4
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Tory MPs are already trying to influence judges and may need special training. We really don't want to end up like the US.
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02/12/2020 15:12:16 0 0
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Yes it's terrible to hand back power to the public to decide on who is in power, we must wait 5 years even if they are doing a bad job of it. /Sarcasm. This is only reverting us back to the system we had in place before Cameron tried to appease the Lib Dems.
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02/12/2020 12:53:08 11 7
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Fixed term of four years like the US should be written into a UK constitution.

The Tories are now seeking an unfair advantage and a opportunistic power grab.

It is an affront to democracy MP’s should rebel in massive numbers and the Supreme Court should stop it.
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02/12/2020 12:56:44 20 4
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Tory MPs are already trying to influence judges and may need special training. We really don't want to end up like the US.
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02/12/2020 12:39:37 7 0
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If you have a party all about business at the expense of the middle and lower classes....
And a party that represents those middle and lower classes at the expense of business
When combined is representative of the majority
To end the chaos at both ends means they need to work together
With those smaller parties
Then you will see an electorate that doesn’t use a vote out of spite, which happens
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02/12/2020 12:57:09 14 3
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Hence PR being a much better option than FPTP.
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02/12/2020 12:59:03 21 9
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miles naismith
12:10

"You had a referendum on PR as part of the coalition. We voted against it, so respect the will of the people and move on - it's not best out of 3."

Try telling that to Farage and his New Reform Party.

The hypocrisy of Ex-UKIPPERs never ceases to amaze me.
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02/12/2020 13:00:03 17 4
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Poor old BoJo, his opportunity to use this advantage has already come and gone...it was at a time when the gullible still had faith in him.
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02/12/2020 12:42:00 5 4
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There's an awful lot of people commenting on here who clearly have no idea how our electoral/parliamentary systems work.

If you are hoping that this will pave the way to an early election, getting rid of the Conservative government, then you are one of these people.
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02/12/2020 14:06:54 3 0
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Getting rid of Johnson would be a good start.
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02/12/2020 13:03:11 6 4
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Good.

The 5 year fixed Parliament was only put in to try to keep the Lib DIms in power with the Conservatives.

Just like their PR stunt it should be rejected outright.
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02/12/2020 13:13:46 0 4
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Agree totally with you, Mr Lone Gunman. The fixed term Parliament was a corrupt agreement stitched up between Cameron & Clegg. But Clegg had the last laugh - he is now working for Facebook dishing out fake news.
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02/12/2020 13:03:14 3 0
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Harold Wilson in 1970 discovered to his cost calling an election date as P.M. did not go to plan as he lost.

There is growing evidence people mislead opinion pollsters nowadays so there is no guarantee you,ll win an election after calling it but in general it is wise to call an election when you are at least 10 points ahead in the polls.
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02/12/2020 11:33:59 79 37
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Please, please, please give the country the chance to get rid of the snout in trough, bungs for chums, vileness that is this clown party.
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02/12/2020 13:03:29 8 0
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Boris intends giving you that opportunity. I have little respect for politicians of all parties but I am resigned to voting for the party that inflicts least damage. The ONLY solution is revolutionary change in the way election candidates are selected. Candidates should be required to have track records of achievement in the real world, otherwise we will continue to be led by donkeys!
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02/12/2020 13:45:26 11 2
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And elected on PR, not FPTP.
Democracy, please.
Include rejoin on a ref on the same day.
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da
02/12/2020 22:31:11 0 0
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Least damage financially for me would be farage. Least damage overall is always the golden shower, but they’re as popular as a golden shower.
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02/12/2020 13:04:41 11 3
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Tomorrow would be nice
He can't even get his own MPs to vote for him
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DG
02/12/2020 13:06:47 10 5
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Good, the sooner the better so the 1.5 million freelancers can vote for another party and not the Tory stitch-up party as they did before.
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02/12/2020 14:35:10 0 0
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Aren't they 'floaters' ?
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02/12/2020 12:36:33 9 2
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See Boris's waited for his 6th question, punchline joke again today. Do give up the day job.....
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02/12/2020 12:51:06 4 3
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Captain Hindsight promoted to General Indecision - that's quite good really.
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02/12/2020 17:05:53 3 0
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And what's Johnson but Bandsman Bluster likely to rise to Sergeant Splaff?
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02/12/2020 12:10:12 13 14
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You had a referendum on PR as part of the coalition. We voted against it, so respect the will of the people and move on - it's not best out of 3.
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02/12/2020 12:51:18 8 0
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Wrong! Do some research, Miles. You also need to realise that democracy isn't a one-off event that gets put back in the box once you've achieved what you wanted with it.
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02/12/2020 13:09:12 5 3
bbc
Special thanks to Jo Swinson and Nicola Sturgeon for giving Dominic Cummings the election he craved for last December. It guaranteed that Brexit got done and had tens of thousands of Labour members and supporters queuing up to vote Tory.
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02/12/2020 13:19:44 5 1
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More to do with people not wanting to vote for Jeremy C. I think
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02/12/2020 13:09:15 2 1
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The FTPA was always a dreadful idea, which Cameron only introduced under pressure from the LibDems (who saw it as their best chance to cling on to their Coalition Govt perks.)

All those bleating "But it will give the Tories an advantage" are missing the blindingly obvious point that it will also favour any future incumbent too. Dare to say it - that might even be Labour one day!
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02/12/2020 13:09:18 10 1
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Armchair Bore "But the Tories are more likely to split in two, as we saw in the vote yesterday"

This being the reason for SKS abstaining. To bring home the fact to the PM that if all parties had taken part, he could have lost not only the majority, but also the vote!
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02/12/2020 13:35:54 1 0
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Not sure about that. If Lab had been allowed to vote, the 55 tory 'rebels' would also have voted (out of self-preservation) so the outcome would have been the same. However badly Johnson does, he can always get through. I'm afraid we're stuck with this situation until May 24.
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02/12/2020 13:09:23 4 0
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Obviously the greater the percentage you are ahead in the polls and the nearer the time of the election ,the better the chance you have but there have been some spectacular collapses in support for front runners in recent years-take 2017-Mrs May was well ahead and had good local election results in 2017, only to just scrape a majority thanks to Scots Tory and D.U.P. members elected soon after.
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02/12/2020 13:09:40 13 3
bbc
I have little respect for any politician but I am resigned to voting for the party that inflicts least damage. The ONLY solution is revolutionary change in the way election candidates are selected. Candidates should be required to have track records of achievement in the real world, otherwise we will continue to be led by donkeys!
Why not legally require a minimum level of proven competence?
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02/12/2020 13:57:23 3 0
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no-one would apply.
The reverse is a aualification at the moment, c.f. Johnson.
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mm
02/12/2020 17:04:33 0 0
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What about primary elections where the candidates are selecred by local votes and not by the political parties putting forward unkown numpties? Also most MP's know little about parliamentary procedure on first elrction. They should have to pass an exam before being promoted.. Finally, pay. Who is worth more, a new MP who is just fodder for the voting lobbies on £80k or a new doctor on £30k ?
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03/12/2020 18:20:09 0 0
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or let their constituency party select them. Oop, the Tories don't do that. Maybe primaries would help sort the sheep from the goats. Liars would give themselves away before being selected as candidates.
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02/12/2020 12:33:15 1 8
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PR is hailed as better democracy by the very people that will not accept a democratic referendum vote!!
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02/12/2020 12:57:55 7 0
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Don't be silly - no one doesn't accept the referendum result - we left already! However, democracy allows us to object to it, protest and campaign to rejoin. If you have a problem with that you should move to China or North Korea where they employ the kind of democracy you seem to want.
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02/12/2020 21:50:44 0 0
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"no one doesn't accept the referendum result - we left already!"

Yep, and it is amazing the number of Brexiteers that don't seem to know that, isn't it?
if i have the vaccine and turn into a stupid idiot and start thinking vote leave are talking sense
will i have grounds for compensation?
Removed
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02/12/2020 13:14:16 0 2
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Since this is HYS is about reform of the Fixed Term Parliament Act, and has nothing to do with either Covid or Brexit, I'd say you probably don't need the vaccine to achieve that result.
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02/12/2020 11:31:15 39 17
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Call an election for next week, Boris. I dare you.
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02/12/2020 13:11:43 6 11
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Keir would find a way to abstain from that as well...
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02/12/2020 13:28:04 11 3
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You can't blame Keir for abstaining. If you are presented with only 2 options neither of which are right in your opinion and you have no power to change either of the options what else is there for you to do. I would do the same. Having no restrictions is absolutely not the right thing at the moment but the government's tier system isn't exactly taking a logical and fair approach
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02/12/2020 12:10:12 13 14
bbc
You had a referendum on PR as part of the coalition. We voted against it, so respect the will of the people and move on - it's not best out of 3.
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02/12/2020 13:00:13 6 0
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The 'wiuw of da gwate Bwitish puypaw' can and does change - that is democracy, not your warped and twisted version that seems to make things set in stone for all eternity. Society needs to beable to adapt to changing circumstances, democracy allows this, so why don't you think it should?
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02/12/2020 12:42:04 1 7
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It is PR - the version was chosen deliberately by Cameron to scupper the chances by sowing 'project fear'. Remind you of a certain playbook?

As a vote it is binding, so don't go asking for 'different version' - we had enough of that
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02/12/2020 13:01:12 5 0
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Wrong again! If we want PR, we have every right to ask for it, because this is a democracy, and there's nothing you can do about it - get over it.
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02/12/2020 12:33:41 2 1
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Serve them right. Sometimes a lesson needs to be taught.
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02/12/2020 13:02:30 2 0
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Absolutely, pass the popcorn...
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02/12/2020 14:18:48 1 0
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Like that one,

Let them eat Popcorn.

or Have your popcorn and eat it.
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02/12/2020 13:04:53 2 3
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Does scrapping the FTP Act also remove the five-year limit, making it possible for our current dictator, Dear Leader Cunnings, to remain in power indefinitely?
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02/12/2020 13:03:11 6 4
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Good.

The 5 year fixed Parliament was only put in to try to keep the Lib DIms in power with the Conservatives.

Just like their PR stunt it should be rejected outright.
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02/12/2020 13:13:46 0 4
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Agree totally with you, Mr Lone Gunman. The fixed term Parliament was a corrupt agreement stitched up between Cameron & Clegg. But Clegg had the last laugh - he is now working for Facebook dishing out fake news.
if i have the vaccine and turn into a stupid idiot and start thinking vote leave are talking sense
will i have grounds for compensation?
Removed
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02/12/2020 13:14:16 0 2
bbc
Since this is HYS is about reform of the Fixed Term Parliament Act, and has nothing to do with either Covid or Brexit, I'd say you probably don't need the vaccine to achieve that result.
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02/12/2020 13:14:57 16 4
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An attempt to put another cog in the taking back control conning Con wheel.Even today with the great vaccine news Bojo had to bawl and shout about 40,000 nurses 20,000 police etc etc THEY ARE PUTTING BACK WHAT THEY TOOK AWAY if it ever happens.
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02/12/2020 13:41:21 1 10
bbc
with 5 million more patients and potential criminals / Covid rule breakers to serve/ snoop on ... It gets more like China here everyday ..... and GDP growth from importing people continues as the number 1 danger in the UK ...
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02/12/2020 13:17:15 19 10
bbc
"Boris Johnson could be given the power to call an early election under a new law proposed by the government."

Every time the Tory gets into a pickle, it's either a new leadership contest or a general election ....

... should have had a second referendum, and all this nonsense would have been sorted in 2017.
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02/12/2020 13:46:09 22 4
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The whole thing was a Tory project to lance the euro-sceptic boil and shaft Farage

Like always it backfired on the current PM Cameron as Gove & Johnson saw an opportunity for self-advancement

Make no mistake there are Tory politicians calculating right now on how to shift Johnson and absolve themselves of any responsibility for what the current government has been doing ...
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02/12/2020 14:08:33 0 4
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What nonsense! I assume you voted in 2010, 2015, 2016 (referendum), 2017 and 2019. You have had five goes. I assume once Labour get in democracy has been served.
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02/12/2020 13:19:21 13 4
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margaret
13:09

" It guaranteed that Brexit got done and had tens of thousands of Labour members and supporters queuing up to vote Tory."

That's OK - it appeases my socialist conscience.

If people choose poverty - good luck to them I say - but no complaining afterwards.
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02/12/2020 13:09:12 5 3
bbc
Special thanks to Jo Swinson and Nicola Sturgeon for giving Dominic Cummings the election he craved for last December. It guaranteed that Brexit got done and had tens of thousands of Labour members and supporters queuing up to vote Tory.
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02/12/2020 13:19:44 5 1
bbc
More to do with people not wanting to vote for Jeremy C. I think
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02/12/2020 13:19:59 19 8
bbc
Quite clearly the current system isn't working. A National Government of Unity was required to right the June 2016 wrong, putting the national interest first. Huge constitutional change for a few old voters, an absolute tragedy for our country.
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02/12/2020 13:53:19 3 6
bbc
Any party of unity would be an improvement.
The on ly party of u.ity at the moment are UKIP. Farage, all alone with his EU pension.
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02/12/2020 16:30:26 0 2
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So you prefer a communism? Those thick peasants who did not understand the complexities of the Brexit vote?
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03/12/2020 11:02:26 0 0
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Rubbish its people like you that helped this mess had you backed the lib dems as the rest of the 16 million remainers we would still be in the EU
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02/12/2020 13:20:01 6 2
bbc
Tiers of a clown Johnson.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
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02/12/2020 13:29:08 0 2
bbc
glad you like it, buy it, it might get to no1 like the bitch is dead?
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02/12/2020 13:20:29 51 12
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Let's not assume that Johnson will be either Tory Leader or PM by the time of the next election. His own party want him out, the country does, and I suspect he does as well. So much nicer to make a quarter of a million quid a year by writing semi humourous twaddle than facing big decisions you are not up to for 'peanuts' as he would put it!
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02/12/2020 15:24:14 21 26
bbc
Bit of fake news here from an obviouse labour supporter. 1 or 2 probably dont like Boris, but the majority are probably greatful that its not them at the top at the moment so are keeping there heads down
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BOF
02/12/2020 15:35:42 12 2
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Dagenham, I am sorry but many people think that Mr Johnson lacks both integrity and competence.
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02/12/2020 18:01:45 1 0
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Yes, needs to earn more to support his dysfunctional family, how many ex-wives? How many kids?
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02/12/2020 19:53:35 3 0
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The only reason that Boris Johnson hasn't been replaced already is that absolutely no Conservative MP will take the gig until the excrement from Covid and Brexit has stopped raining from the sky.
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03/12/2020 08:39:37 0 1
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Where did you get that from? Boris will lead for many years to come.
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02/12/2020 12:19:54 2 1
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You'd have to be totally brain dead to vote for any of the opposition right now.
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02/12/2020 13:22:28 1 0
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They stand a chance then!
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02/12/2020 13:22:57 2 1
bbc
Back to give away budgets, empty promises and carefully timed changes of PM for maximum electoral effect

Still nothing left to privatise and national debt thru the roof that might curb the worst excesses of politicians at election time
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02/12/2020 13:25:54 3 1
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The Hoarse Whisperer
13:14

"Since this is HYS is about reform of the Fixed Term Parliament Act"

One has to allow some leeway in discussions .... it is a liberal thing but not a right wing authoritarian thing admittedly.

"The Fixed-term Parliaments Act"

Given Johnson's inability to fix Brexit or CV19 the above is an oxymoron.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha - Got the "B"-word in.
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02/12/2020 13:11:43 6 11
bbc
Keir would find a way to abstain from that as well...
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02/12/2020 13:28:04 11 3
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You can't blame Keir for abstaining. If you are presented with only 2 options neither of which are right in your opinion and you have no power to change either of the options what else is there for you to do. I would do the same. Having no restrictions is absolutely not the right thing at the moment but the government's tier system isn't exactly taking a logical and fair approach
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02/12/2020 15:59:39 2 2
bbc
I was thinking more of the overseas operations bill or the covert human intelligences bill. For the guy who made his mark as a human rights lawyer, you would think that he might have more of an objection on those.

But there I go with my misty eyed lentil chewing caring about human rights lefty ways.

If you dont agree with something, or think it can be better, objecting sends more of a message.
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03/12/2020 10:31:09 0 1
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Nah he's a fence sitter like the last leader labour need to to far more before they start wining back the millions of labour voters they lost.
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02/12/2020 13:20:01 6 2
bbc
Tiers of a clown Johnson.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
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02/12/2020 13:29:08 0 2
bbc
glad you like it, buy it, it might get to no1 like the bitch is dead?
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02/12/2020 13:31:48 3 1
bbc
As much as I didn't agree with 99% of Thatcher's policies .....

.... Thatcher deserves more respect than Clown Shape Shifter Johnson.
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02/12/2020 13:29:21 1 1
bbc
I wonder if the BBC will start a new series?

Boris'll Fix It?
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02/12/2020 13:31:30 3 1
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Best not. We've seen what he does to little boys already https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-34530932
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02/12/2020 13:49:58 2 0
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With the same consequeces as Jim?
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02/12/2020 13:31:14 5 5
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At the next election, you must vote for the only party that will REJOIN the EU, the Liberal Democrats.
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02/12/2020 13:40:13 6 1
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I doubt that even the Liberals are that daft.
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02/12/2020 13:41:30 3 2
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Lol... Lib Dems... Lol!
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02/12/2020 13:44:16 0 2
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That's so funny that I'm not even going to downvote it!
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02/12/2020 14:16:26 1 2
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Why?
Had the truth been on offer in the '70s I doubt the Common market vote would have been worth the bother.
We no doubt would have developed a working relationship with the evolving EU, but not I hope akin the now discredited BRINO deals or the present version being demanded of us.
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02/12/2020 21:20:10 0 0
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they are a wasted party they will never achieve power.
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02/12/2020 13:29:21 1 1
bbc
I wonder if the BBC will start a new series?

Boris'll Fix It?
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02/12/2020 13:31:30 3 1
bbc
Best not. We've seen what he does to little boys already https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-34530932
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02/12/2020 13:34:24 3 1
bbc
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2015/oct/15/moment-boris-johnson-japan-knocks-over-boy-in-rugby-match-video

"Moment Boris Johnson knocks over boy in rugby match – video"

My statement was indeed loaded.

Johnson is a cowardly bully - that's why he says yes to everyone and then ends up getting caught lying - all in my very humble opinion.
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02/12/2020 13:29:08 0 2
bbc
glad you like it, buy it, it might get to no1 like the bitch is dead?
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02/12/2020 13:31:48 3 1
bbc
As much as I didn't agree with 99% of Thatcher's policies .....

.... Thatcher deserves more respect than Clown Shape Shifter Johnson.
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02/12/2020 21:54:42 0 0
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Yep, at least she had a plan, even if I didn't like it, whereas BoJo wouldn't recognise a plan if it was tatooed on the back of his hand...