Hamilton wins after Grosjean escapes fire
29/11/2020 | sport | f1 | 745
Lewis Hamilton takes his 11th victory of the season in a Bahrain Grand Prix notable for a violent, fiery crash by Haas driver Romain Grosjean.
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29/11/2020 17:46:44 8 3
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awe. Is it past your bedtime?
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29/11/2020 17:39:51 5 43
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SO BORING!
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29/11/2020 17:46:27 22 4
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Thanks for that inane comment. Don't watch it in future. Seems you're as gutless as your namesake.
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29/11/2020 17:41:27 211 7
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Felt sick watching that. So reminiscent of Spa 2019 and Japan 2014.

Amazing work by the marshalls and medics. Given how little they often have to do, they reacted incredibly well.

So glad Grosjean isn't more severely injured.

Also - congrats Lewis on another dominant drive. Lower importance today, but every driver deserves credit for getting back in their cars after viewing those replays.
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29/11/2020 19:18:39 141 1
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Remember when people were saying we shouldn't use the halo as it didn't look right?

Thankfully science and maths persevered over human emotion. It's the only reason why Grosjean is still alive.

It's a lesson we can and should apply in all walks of life!
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29/11/2020 20:57:50 17 7
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Romain brought home just how dangerous it is so it was disappointing to see Lewis being interviewed after the race and multiple journalists essentially suggesting he had it easy, it was all the car again and he just coasted home to the win.

Grosjeans terrible crash has not convinced the journalists to put their pathetic attempts to undermine Lewis aside for just one day.
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30/11/2020 12:01:11 0 2
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I can't quite believe some people are giving thumbs down to these posts. Are they unhappy RG is alive and well?
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30/11/2020 14:14:52 0 0
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The marshals do seem to have been somewhat overlooked.

One of the replays showed that they were pretty close to where the crash happened, close enough to have to back off from the initial explosion that would have been pretty unexpected, and then they gathered themselves and ran back in.

That must have been even harder than the guys in the med car who saw it all unfold 1st and arrive afterwards.
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29/11/2020 17:41:36 117 3
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How the hell he survived that is beyond me. Without the safety development over the last few years that race could have seen 2 dead drivers and 1 very brave but stupid marshal too. Thank God it was all OK.
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29/11/2020 19:10:07 47 8
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the nomex suit has been around a long time, but without the halo i doubt Stroll would be alive, they may look ugly, now we know they have to stay
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29/11/2020 17:42:30 173 13
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Anyone who still has an issue with the halo after today should go and follow another sport
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29/11/2020 19:52:27 90 14
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What’s wrong with people who downvoted this? Do you just want to see someone die?
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30/11/2020 09:45:52 7 0
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You don't even notice the halo now, but its there just waiting to save a life.
Relieved he got out so quickly.
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29/11/2020 17:43:43 81 3
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"We don't like the Halo, it looks ugly" they said.

Guess we now know which is more important, safety or looks...
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29/11/2020 19:20:08 21 1
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Logical response > emotional response
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29/11/2020 17:43:46 9 3
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I don't even care that Hamilton won, I'm just very glad Romain wasn't turned into a bag of ash after that accident. I don't know why there wasn't any tire barriers setup along that wall. There should of been. It would of turned that nasty accident that almost killed someone into something that can withstand such a accident a lot better.
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29/11/2020 20:06:54 7 7
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Well everyone says hooray Alonso is back and ye there are drivers at the saatrt of their carreers not getting a seat because he and Kimi are taking them!! They have had their time now give the guys like Perez a seat
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30/11/2020 11:53:54 2 0
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It is common to only have tyre barriers on areas where there is likely to be an impact with the Armco. It was his angle of entry that caused this.
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29/11/2020 17:44:49 114 1
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Fantastic tribute to the safety of the modern cars. That crash would have been fatal not so many years ago. Get well soon GroJo
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29/11/2020 22:27:28 41 3
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Hope the downvoter can sleep well tonight.
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Cam
29/11/2020 17:44:53 74 10
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How boring must your life be when you supposedly watch something boring for an hour and a half just so you can log onto Have Your Say just in order to write “BORING”???!!!
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29/11/2020 18:28:40 37 2
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They don't watch it.
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30/11/2020 14:12:35 0 0
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You just found out?
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29/11/2020 17:45:15 26 32
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Sir Lewis Hamilton of Stevenage thrashes the "opposition" once again.
GOAT.
Suck it yet again haters :-D
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29/11/2020 17:50:48 18 7
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I'd rather be a "hater" of Hamilton for not caring that he won if it meant having enough dignity and respect to hope Grosjean is okay after such an accident.

Not the right time or place for your usual tosh.
THE ONLY WORKING CLASS WORLD CHAMPION
BORN IN THE SLUMS OF STEVENAGE
SIR LEWIS HAMILTON!!!!
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29/11/2020 18:21:21 3 5
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I'm surprised mr equality went to Bahrain!!
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29/11/2020 22:38:07 4 0
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Lewis - Thank you guys, wouldn't have done it without you and this great car.

Mercedes - We know that! Thanks for reminding us that it's because of us you have these wins and championships and thanks to us you have some free money in the bank too...otherwise youre apparently some GOAT in the eyes of some ;)
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29/11/2020 23:08:40 2 0
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Wow a faster car (6 years) beat a slower car, so amazing.....
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29/11/2020 17:46:13 77 0
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Horrifying accident, just so glad to see him walk away.
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29/11/2020 17:46:22 355 1
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The halo is the best recent invention in F1.

I was against it when it came out. I was sensationally wrong
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29/11/2020 18:37:09 32 11
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CP Tech, Germany...Engineering gods!
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29/11/2020 20:00:09 35 0
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Seriously - kudos to you mate. Being right is one thing, but admitting you're wrong takes a lot I think. Maybe we all had doubts, I know that I didn't really enjoy an f1 car looking more like a flip flop, but my god, am I grateful for the halo. Ever since Alonso went over Leclerc's head in 2018 it was obvious how safety must never be compromised for aesthetics.
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29/11/2020 20:50:02 15 15
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Its at times like this that you realize just how irresponsible and reckless the commentators are with their constant goading of Bottas to bang wheels with Lewis just because they don't want to see him win.

F1 cars making contact is dangerous and any commentator who continues to encourage drivers to "get their elbows out" and "bang wheels" is a disgrace and should be ashamed of themselves.
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29/11/2020 21:00:05 26 0
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100% agree.

I thought Halo was the end of F1 when it was introduced. I was already wrong about it cos it hasn’t ruined the spectacle in the way that I thought, and has already proved its worth when Raikonnen’s car might otherwise have injured Alonso.

But wow - never been so happy to be so wrong.
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30/11/2020 08:52:33 9 0
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"I was against it when it came out. I was sensationally wrong"

Me too. I thought it would impede forward vision, and make it harder for drivers to escape in an emergency.

That may still be true, but yesterday's incident makes three times (that I can remember without trying) the halo has undoubtedly saved a driver's life, in three seasons.
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30/11/2020 16:40:01 0 0
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It makes you wonder what the outcome of Grosjean's accident might have been had F1 adopted the "Red Bull Windshield" instead. I didn't like the thought and look of the halo either. When you see the artist's impressions of the 2022 ( formerly 2021) cars they look like they would be aesthetically wrong without a halo.
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30/11/2020 20:17:01 2 0
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Everyone praising the halo but they should question the barrier failing.
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29/11/2020 17:39:51 5 43
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SO BORING!
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29/11/2020 17:46:27 22 4
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Thanks for that inane comment. Don't watch it in future. Seems you're as gutless as your namesake.
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29/11/2020 17:46:27 48 1
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Amazing how Grosjean managed to get himself out of that, the halo really proved it's worth. Lance Stroll's roll over will be barely remembered
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29/11/2020 17:46:28 4 1
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Just ignore them Cam and they'll go away
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29/11/2020 17:46:44 8 3
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awe. Is it past your bedtime?
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29/11/2020 17:46:47 124 3
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That crash looked horrendous when I saw it live. The car just exploded in a fireball.

It was a great tribute to safety engineering that Romain Grosjean stepped out of the wreckage rather than being carried out in a body bag.

Also, another great performance by Lewis despite the major distraction.
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30/11/2020 10:29:39 15 3
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Hugely relieved to see him running away from the car, my heart was in my mouth when I saw it happen, and the immediacy with which the rest of red flag came out.

Elephant in the room though. The crash was entirely Grosjean's own fault, unless there was a failure I'm not aware of. Reckless move. F1 needs to be much, much less forgiving of recklessness, and punish drivers who put others at risk.
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29/11/2020 17:46:55 153 2
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Halo too ugly, ruins the aesthetics, etc, my word how everyone must rejoice that’s it there in moments like this. Huge admiration for the heroic marshals and doctors for getting on the scene so quickly. F1 can be proud of itself today, God bless you Romain! ??????
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29/11/2020 17:47:14 8 56
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Something remotely exciting happened in Formula One. Wow. I take it, as per, the guy with the fastest, most expensive car, starting from the front of the grid, won again. Dear, oh dear. F1 has to be the dullest form of motorsport (cars or bikes).
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29/11/2020 17:49:55 22 6
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Go back to your gallons of beer and don't comment about things that you obviously don't ever watch
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Cam
29/11/2020 18:01:55 9 2
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F1 is the wealthiest form of motorsport with the greatest spectator numbers and highest level of investment. It attracts an intellectual audience that understand and appreciate physics, aerospace technologies and elite manifestations of science.
Some people find that dull because they can’t are only stimulated by things like crashes and, erm, more crashes.
It’s your loss buddy. Have fun.
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29/11/2020 17:47:37 3 41
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How is it Hamilton has no problem racing in BahrainI think he needs to read up on history before making comments in future
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29/11/2020 17:49:01 35 1
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Fantastic news that Grosjean is ok and full credit to all that helped F1 is the winner today
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29/11/2020 17:47:14 8 56
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Something remotely exciting happened in Formula One. Wow. I take it, as per, the guy with the fastest, most expensive car, starting from the front of the grid, won again. Dear, oh dear. F1 has to be the dullest form of motorsport (cars or bikes).
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29/11/2020 17:49:55 22 6
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Go back to your gallons of beer and don't comment about things that you obviously don't ever watch
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29/11/2020 22:57:05 0 4
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He is right though
It’s obvious , drivers are as much equal skill , Hamilton simply has the better car , so predictable unless he has a crash 1st 2nd or 3rd
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29/11/2020 17:49:59 197 2
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Instantly thought that I was witnessing a fatality - so pleased to see Grosjean come out of that not just alive, but comparatively unharmed - absolutely amazing.
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29/11/2020 17:58:14 86 3
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Absolutely. Pure shock and worry was all I was feeling at that point.

He’s had a very tough year taking into account Mugello. Thankfully he can walk away from the sport with his life
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29/11/2020 18:27:49 19 1
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It's always good to see a driver walk away from a crash, especially one that horrific.
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29/11/2020 19:10:08 21 0
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Agreed I genuinely thought whoever was in there was gone when I saw the initial impact. Having viewed the aftermath how he wasn’t killed or more severely injured is incredible. Thankfully the equipment all did what it is designed to do.
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29/11/2020 21:01:20 4 10
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When I saw the crash a expected the worst. I couldn't he how anyone was going to come out of that alive. Maybe we need to slow these cars down a tad and the reckless message people like Martin Brundle put out to let them race seems to have made some drivers very reckless, sloppy and carefree in their driving.
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29/11/2020 21:05:30 13 1
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Agreed, I leapt out of my seat and was distraught thinking I'd just seen one of our heroes die on live TV.

Huge relief when we saw him jumping the barrier.
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29/11/2020 22:22:45 7 0
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All credit to the design and build team who put these machines together.
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30/11/2020 11:24:59 3 0
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Exactly. Last time I saw a car crash and go up like that, I was watching a James Bond movie. Bloody frightening for me to watch, never mind his wife and kids who must have gone through a million emotions in 30 seconds.
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29/11/2020 17:50:39 5 37
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Just shows how boring F1 is as it needs these two incidents to liven it up.

Otherwise it is just a procession for the one who loves himself too much.
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29/11/2020 17:45:15 26 32
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Sir Lewis Hamilton of Stevenage thrashes the "opposition" once again.
GOAT.
Suck it yet again haters :-D
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29/11/2020 17:50:48 18 7
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I'd rather be a "hater" of Hamilton for not caring that he won if it meant having enough dignity and respect to hope Grosjean is okay after such an accident.

Not the right time or place for your usual tosh.
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29/11/2020 17:56:43 3 11
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oh the deep pain you must be facing being a hater and all, and having to bring Grosjean into it in attempt to defend your sad little racist life.
Grosjean was in trouble due to his own stupidity (yet again). Obviously great that he was ok, but he shouldn't be in F1.
I watched the whole race. Did you?
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29/11/2020 18:21:58 4 5
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Well said , he's such a hypocrite
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29/11/2020 17:51:39 49 1
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The fact Grosjean walked away from the accident is testament to the many lives lost and the subsequent safety developments made in motorsport over many decades. A timely reminder that we must never forget motorsport is inherently dangerous.
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29/11/2020 17:53:27 4 28
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The best (most funded) team won again.

F1 needs to attract more teams.
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29/11/2020 17:59:24 24 1
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F1 Knowledge needs to get some actual F1 Knowledge
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29/11/2020 18:57:25 7 0
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Best funded team - for more than 20 years - could only scrape tenth now they are no longer allowed to use an engine that breaks the rules.
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29/11/2020 17:53:36 6 2
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You just do not expect to have an incident like this, happening on a straight. it is hardly surprising that the barrier involved was not high spec. Maybe we need to take another safety review of the tracks, particularly at the points where "nothing ever happens", expect the unexpected. On board extinguishers?
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29/11/2020 17:58:39 12 1
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It was Grosjean. He pulled another stupid manouevre.
What I can't understand is why the circuit had an angled barrier like that
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29/11/2020 18:49:46 3 0
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Bundle said in commentary they do have on board extinguishers, they're probably not designed to extinguish an entire fuel tank though.
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29/11/2020 17:56:39 90 6
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A reminder to those who think f1 is “like a video game”, and “anyone can drive these cars” how dangerous this sport is
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29/11/2020 19:56:22 61 0
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EXACTLY. Well said. I love F1 and it saddens me to see any kind of hate for any of the drivers. It's natural to have favourites, but come on, they are all so talented and awe inspiring really. SO glad romain is ok.
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30/11/2020 13:03:55 0 0
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BigJohn needs frequent reminding since day one of his F1 career.
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29/11/2020 17:50:48 18 7
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I'd rather be a "hater" of Hamilton for not caring that he won if it meant having enough dignity and respect to hope Grosjean is okay after such an accident.

Not the right time or place for your usual tosh.
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29/11/2020 17:56:43 3 11
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oh the deep pain you must be facing being a hater and all, and having to bring Grosjean into it in attempt to defend your sad little racist life.
Grosjean was in trouble due to his own stupidity (yet again). Obviously great that he was ok, but he shouldn't be in F1.
I watched the whole race. Did you?
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29/11/2020 17:45:15 26 32
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Sir Lewis Hamilton of Stevenage thrashes the "opposition" once again.
GOAT.
Suck it yet again haters :-D
THE ONLY WORKING CLASS WORLD CHAMPION
BORN IN THE SLUMS OF STEVENAGE
SIR LEWIS HAMILTON!!!!
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29/11/2020 17:57:18 76 5
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Was praying the moment I saw that crash that driver would be ok. Absolute miracle. Testament to tech and engineering. Just shows that it is a very dangerous sport and takes lots of skill to even keep it on the track. All these bums on here saying their nan could drive one of these cars should have a re-think..
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29/11/2020 17:58:04 60 1
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First things first I am so glad Grosjean was able to escape that fireball. If Romain has sustained broken ribs as suspected this could mean this race might be his last GP which in F1 but at least he was able to get out of fireball . His wife and children will be very relieved that he managed to climb out that car. May F1 never stop striving to improve safety . The race result comes second today.
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29/11/2020 17:49:59 197 2
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Instantly thought that I was witnessing a fatality - so pleased to see Grosjean come out of that not just alive, but comparatively unharmed - absolutely amazing.
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29/11/2020 17:58:14 86 3
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Absolutely. Pure shock and worry was all I was feeling at that point.

He’s had a very tough year taking into account Mugello. Thankfully he can walk away from the sport with his life
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29/11/2020 17:53:36 6 2
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You just do not expect to have an incident like this, happening on a straight. it is hardly surprising that the barrier involved was not high spec. Maybe we need to take another safety review of the tracks, particularly at the points where "nothing ever happens", expect the unexpected. On board extinguishers?
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29/11/2020 17:58:39 12 1
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It was Grosjean. He pulled another stupid manouevre.
What I can't understand is why the circuit had an angled barrier like that
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29/11/2020 20:09:31 1 0
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It’s an access road onto the track
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29/11/2020 17:58:47 72 1
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I’ve got to be honest, I really didn’t like the look of the halo and didn’t think it would particularly stop debris hitting drivers. Today it performed in another way and I am thankful I was completely wrong about it
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29/11/2020 17:58:56 52 0
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Thank god for Halo ! A absolutely certain fatality prevented by a simple bit of safety kit ! A stark reminder that things can still go disastrously wrong in a heartbeat! Very very impressed by the engineer team that rebuilt the barrier so quickly to save the race !
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29/11/2020 23:12:13 10 0
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I mean we say simple, but honestly I’m amazed that it wasn’t even cracked or out of shape after that impact (just the carbon faring by the looks of it)
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29/11/2020 17:53:27 4 28
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The best (most funded) team won again.

F1 needs to attract more teams.
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29/11/2020 17:59:24 24 1
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F1 Knowledge needs to get some actual F1 Knowledge
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29/11/2020 17:49:59 197 2
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Instantly thought that I was witnessing a fatality - so pleased to see Grosjean come out of that not just alive, but comparatively unharmed - absolutely amazing.
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29/11/2020 18:00:26 4 32
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At least something exciting happened
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29/11/2020 18:04:12 9 2
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The wrong kind of excitement.
Go back to your bore draws with football then you bum Removed
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29/11/2020 20:09:39 2 0
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Mate, let me know something you love and are passionate about so I can s**t on it every week. Thanks.
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29/11/2020 17:47:14 8 56
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Something remotely exciting happened in Formula One. Wow. I take it, as per, the guy with the fastest, most expensive car, starting from the front of the grid, won again. Dear, oh dear. F1 has to be the dullest form of motorsport (cars or bikes).
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Cam
29/11/2020 18:01:55 9 2
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F1 is the wealthiest form of motorsport with the greatest spectator numbers and highest level of investment. It attracts an intellectual audience that understand and appreciate physics, aerospace technologies and elite manifestations of science.
Some people find that dull because they can’t are only stimulated by things like crashes and, erm, more crashes.
It’s your loss buddy. Have fun.
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29/11/2020 18:21:49 3 12
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Pardon me for not having intimate knowledge of physics, aerospace technologies and elite manifestations of science! I don't watch for crashes, I watch for a race. In no other sport does the equipment give such an advantage to the user. Therefore LH, good as he is, can never be the GOAT.
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29/11/2020 18:02:17 37 11
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The GOAT of F1 does it again ??
The king of speed showed once again his skill. He has given his haters a bad day again. ????
Hope Grojean recovers soon. Respect to all those emergency crew who helped him today ??
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29/11/2020 20:26:02 11 41
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Shut up!
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29/11/2020 18:03:07 2 14
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Apart from the opening few laps, this was one hell of a boring race.
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29/11/2020 18:03:30 19 1
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Thank goodness grosjean walked away still not sure how though! On the race gutted for Perez and if Albon thinks that's good enough to keep his seat he was lucky to get that podium! Perez was leaving him for dust before that in a car that definitely wasnt as good today, surely today and Turkey's performance should be enough to convince red bull who deserves the seat?
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29/11/2020 19:00:17 12 2
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But will Verstappen want such a good driver as his team mate
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29/11/2020 18:00:26 4 32
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At least something exciting happened
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29/11/2020 18:04:12 9 2
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The wrong kind of excitement.
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29/11/2020 18:08:50 0 2
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True
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29/11/2020 18:00:26 4 32
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At least something exciting happened
Go back to your bore draws with football then you bum Removed
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29/11/2020 18:08:30 0 1
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Bit harsh
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29/11/2020 18:05:15 8 20
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And this is the exact reason why you cant claim or label any contemporary drivers as the "GOAT". Look at the safety standards today as compared to lets say 30 or 40 or 50 years ago, no monocoque or seat belts even

No disrespect to current drivers as they are all brilliant & brave but the real heroes or GOAT drivers are from the past who drove without fear AND without any real safety regulations
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29/11/2020 18:12:08 10 4
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Weird comment fro you, only if drivers die than the winners can call themselves
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Zac
29/11/2020 19:14:10 0 0
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I don't think that you know what GOAT means.
So the woke warrior leaves Bahrain with his reputation for putting race wins and points ahead of everything else intact. World Champion hypocrite Removed
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29/11/2020 18:10:10 7 2
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Why a bigoted comment national front are you
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29/11/2020 18:15:31 0 0
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I think you may find that he is actually there for most of the week & next weekend too!"
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29/11/2020 18:06:50 15 0
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Without the huge advances in safety that F1 / FIA have made, today could have been a repeat of that dark weekend in Imola all those years ago
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29/11/2020 18:13:26 13 0
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This accident would of been worse than the one at Imola in 94 without the halo and other tougher safety features, including tough checks to make sure the car and safety cell can withstand significant impacts.

Also the HANS device. There was none of that back in the 90's either, which ultimately could of saved Ayrton's and Roland's life if they had it in 94.
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29/11/2020 18:06:50 3 10
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Miracle that Grosjean walked away from that. It probably put's Hamilton & Schumacher's achievements into perspective. Of course they are greats but previous generations of drivers wouldn't have got near 7 Championships because the odds are they would have died by then. Which actually puts Fangio's record in perspective.
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29/11/2020 18:09:31 7 5
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How can you possibly post something like that, if a driver or drivers don’t die every season than the winner of the championship doesn’t deserve it
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29/11/2020 19:53:34 2 1
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Boy you are really clutching at straws, Yep that’s in the day when his car broke down he took over his teammates, in today’s world Fangio was a cheat, back then accepted . Don’t really see the point of your post.
Go back to your bore draws with football then you bum Removed
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29/11/2020 18:08:30 0 1
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Bit harsh
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29/11/2020 18:13:29 4 0
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Truth hurts does it? If you don’t have the intelligence to appreciate the underlying complexities of F1, don’t bother with it. Football probably is just about your pace.
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29/11/2020 18:04:12 9 2
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The wrong kind of excitement.
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29/11/2020 18:08:50 0 2
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True
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29/11/2020 18:06:50 3 10
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Miracle that Grosjean walked away from that. It probably put's Hamilton & Schumacher's achievements into perspective. Of course they are greats but previous generations of drivers wouldn't have got near 7 Championships because the odds are they would have died by then. Which actually puts Fangio's record in perspective.
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29/11/2020 18:09:31 7 5
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How can you possibly post something like that, if a driver or drivers don’t die every season than the winner of the championship doesn’t deserve it
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29/11/2020 18:12:27 3 0
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Err, didn't say that was a good thing. Just saying that when they were, before the brilliant safety work, winning championships over a number of years was far less likely.
So the woke warrior leaves Bahrain with his reputation for putting race wins and points ahead of everything else intact. World Champion hypocrite Removed
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29/11/2020 18:10:10 7 2
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Why a bigoted comment national front are you
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29/11/2020 18:11:45 13 3
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Hate to think what would've happened had Grosjean been unconscious or not had a halo. As for people questioning the integrity of the barrier, that part of the track is a longish straight, the risk assessment would've deemed the need for high impact barriers as a low risk. Had Grosjean not cut across like that, he wouldn't have driven head on into a barrier and we wouldn't be talking about barriers
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29/11/2020 18:05:15 8 20
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And this is the exact reason why you cant claim or label any contemporary drivers as the "GOAT". Look at the safety standards today as compared to lets say 30 or 40 or 50 years ago, no monocoque or seat belts even

No disrespect to current drivers as they are all brilliant & brave but the real heroes or GOAT drivers are from the past who drove without fear AND without any real safety regulations
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29/11/2020 18:12:08 10 4
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Weird comment fro you, only if drivers die than the winners can call themselves
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29/11/2020 18:15:22 3 7
bbc
Please re write your comment in proper english so that I can respond to it appropriately. Thanks
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29/11/2020 18:12:15 29 13
bbc
Amazing, focused and superior drive by the best F1 driver of all time. Congrats Lewis and Mercedes. ??
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LEO
29/11/2020 18:25:13 13 57
bbc
In no other sport does the equipment give the user such an advantage. Good as he is, LH can never be the GOAT,
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29/11/2020 21:37:18 3 6
bbc
The Goat is Jim Clark
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30/11/2020 17:42:18 0 0
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Never in the proverbial Rapha Elle unless he wins WITHOUT the huge handicap of only both Mercedes finance and power throughout his lengthy F1 career and even before that.

A "Handicap" denied to every other F1 driver in the known Universe.

Here's one for the Fan-Boy bean counters.

Mercedes have broken more records than Hamilton will ever achieve .... unless he drives NOT for Mercedes...??
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29/11/2020 18:12:22 134 1
bbc
It was my privilege to do some work last year for CP Tech in Buren Germany. They along with their partner company in the Project Heggermann make the Halo...It's an amazing piece of engineering/art. Tomorrow Romain will be walking away from his hospital bed because of it...Congratulations to all the incredible people involved.
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29/11/2020 18:09:31 7 5
bbc
How can you possibly post something like that, if a driver or drivers don’t die every season than the winner of the championship doesn’t deserve it
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29/11/2020 18:12:27 3 0
bbc
Err, didn't say that was a good thing. Just saying that when they were, before the brilliant safety work, winning championships over a number of years was far less likely.
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29/11/2020 18:29:05 5 0
bbc
Jackie Stewart retired because he knew he was riding his luck and was tired of his rivals dying on a regular basis.
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29/11/2020 18:12:28 14 4
bbc
If you have a problem with what some F1 drivers get payed I bet everything you wouldn't swap seats with Grosjean
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29/11/2020 18:23:35 9 5
bbc
...paid...
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29/11/2020 18:12:40 4 28
bbc
The best and most exciting part of this race was the crash the rest nearly put me too sleep
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29/11/2020 19:08:03 7 1
bbc
I can't beleive you really said that. Someone could have been killed and you enjoyed watching it???? Intelligent Man !!!!!! My a**e
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Zac
29/11/2020 19:10:59 3 1
bbc
Doesn't your television have an off button? Failing that, couldn't you change the channel to something that you might enjoy? Were there no repeats of the great British bake off, or maybe strictly come dancing to keep you entertained?
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29/11/2020 18:12:41 5 23
bbc
have you seen how fast they drive? no need for it. they aren't even going anywhere. they only end up back where they started, no need to be in such a rush. someone's going to get hurt driving that fast.
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CJR
29/11/2020 19:49:38 0 0
bbc
Why bother
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29/11/2020 18:06:50 15 0
bbc
Without the huge advances in safety that F1 / FIA have made, today could have been a repeat of that dark weekend in Imola all those years ago
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29/11/2020 18:13:26 13 0
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This accident would of been worse than the one at Imola in 94 without the halo and other tougher safety features, including tough checks to make sure the car and safety cell can withstand significant impacts.

Also the HANS device. There was none of that back in the 90's either, which ultimately could of saved Ayrton's and Roland's life if they had it in 94.
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29/11/2020 18:50:15 2 3
bbc
'could have saved!!!
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29/11/2020 18:08:30 0 1
bbc
Bit harsh
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29/11/2020 18:13:29 4 0
bbc
Truth hurts does it? If you don’t have the intelligence to appreciate the underlying complexities of F1, don’t bother with it. Football probably is just about your pace.
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29/11/2020 18:18:50 0 9
bbc
It's a boring sport . The same person wins every week . It used to be competitive not its not . P.s. answered your comment without personal abuse . Try it my intelligent friend
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29/11/2020 18:15:15 8 1
bbc
Those firesuits REALLY work. Amazing that he got himself out of that. Took a few seconds to work out where he was, watching the footage.
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29/11/2020 18:19:53 3 2
bbc
I took a few seconds to....
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29/11/2020 18:12:08 10 4
bbc
Weird comment fro you, only if drivers die than the winners can call themselves
66
29/11/2020 18:15:22 3 7
bbc
Please re write your comment in proper english so that I can respond to it appropriately. Thanks
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29/11/2020 19:09:52 5 0
bbc
I'll translate for you. Stop talking out of your A-hole Mahender
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Bob
29/11/2020 18:15:23 30 3
bbc
Lots of people talking about Imola 1994 in these comments. Please take time to remember Jules Bianchi who died in 2015. There is more to be done to increase safety and we got very lucky today as racing fans
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29/11/2020 18:25:43 8 4
bbc
Romain ended up in a metal barrier not too dissimilar to Imola 94 when Aryton ended up in a concrete barrier, both at more or less full speed.

Jules made an error while driving at speed when he should be slowing, he skipped across the gravel and hit the rescue tractor. As horrible as Jules' accident was, it is not relevant to this situation.

I'm not forgetting JB17 either.
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30/11/2020 16:52:24 1 0
bbc
I found it really sad that Roland Ratzenburger was not commemorated on the Imola trophies given our a few weeks ago while Senna was - it's not right to remember some and not others.
So the woke warrior leaves Bahrain with his reputation for putting race wins and points ahead of everything else intact. World Champion hypocrite Removed
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29/11/2020 18:15:31 0 0
bbc
I think you may find that he is actually there for most of the week & next weekend too!"
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bbc
I'm amazed Lewis raced there as he's so aware of equality etc , oh sorry when it suits the hypocrite ! Removed
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29/11/2020 18:17:22 5 6
bbc
Boring
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29/11/2020 18:24:33 0 0
bbc
Your trollinh game is weak, Padawan.
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29/11/2020 18:17:06 15 12
bbc
Glad to see that Grosjean's OK after his fiery accident today, but it does show that he is a danger to himself and those around him with the manner of his driving, in what was an entirely avoidable accident.

The way he chopped across his competitors shows that he hasn't learnt anything about racecraft over the last few years, and maybe this is a sign to hang up his helmet & become a commentator!
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29/11/2020 18:19:50 1 13
bbc
Of course, you would be able to react better wouldn’t you?

It’s a race. It’s about gaining positions. I think any driver will have attempted that move in that position.
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29/11/2020 21:38:08 2 0
bbc
I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. He chopped across one driver, Kyvat, to avoid a big old mess developing on the left side of the track and it seemed like Kyvat was actually in his blind spot in the mirrors. I think if it was a normal crash it would've been classed as a racing incident with neither driver penalised. I stand poised to be corrected.
I'm amazed Lewis raced there as he's so aware of equality etc , oh sorry when it suits the hypocrite ! Removed
71
29/11/2020 18:17:22 5 6
bbc
Boring
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29/11/2020 18:19:58 2 0
bbc
I think you mean ddddduuuuuulllll!!!
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29/11/2020 18:13:29 4 0
bbc
Truth hurts does it? If you don’t have the intelligence to appreciate the underlying complexities of F1, don’t bother with it. Football probably is just about your pace.
72
29/11/2020 18:18:50 0 9
bbc
It's a boring sport . The same person wins every week . It used to be competitive not its not . P.s. answered your comment without personal abuse . Try it my intelligent friend
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29/11/2020 18:21:36 6 0
bbc
Don’t watch it then if you don’t enjoy the modern F1

Don’t comment either. Simple as that. You have nothing to offer.
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29/11/2020 18:19:29 13 28
bbc
Did Lewis not boycott the race ? No doubt he criticized Bahrain record on human rights !! Of course he didn't
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29/11/2020 18:25:41 12 20
bbc
Totally agree. Boycotting this race and the Saudi GP would constitute genuine action. Words are cheap.
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29/11/2020 18:28:44 5 0
bbc
Of course he did. Don't be biased!

Lewis Hamilton: Formula 1 'needs to do more' on human rights in host countries

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/55091709
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Zac
29/11/2020 19:06:40 6 1
bbc
Have none of you heard of breach of contract? Do any of you know what a contract is and how it works?
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CJR
29/11/2020 19:45:54 4 0
bbc
Because it’s in his terms of his contact to race, jezz you haters will clutch at any straw
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29/11/2020 18:17:06 15 12
bbc
Glad to see that Grosjean's OK after his fiery accident today, but it does show that he is a danger to himself and those around him with the manner of his driving, in what was an entirely avoidable accident.

The way he chopped across his competitors shows that he hasn't learnt anything about racecraft over the last few years, and maybe this is a sign to hang up his helmet & become a commentator!
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29/11/2020 18:19:50 1 13
bbc
Of course, you would be able to react better wouldn’t you?

It’s a race. It’s about gaining positions. I think any driver will have attempted that move in that position.
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29/11/2020 18:26:25 10 1
bbc
a) it's not about reaction time, its about making sure there's enough space to the side of you, just like on the highway.

b) it's about gaining posns without driving yourself or everyone else off the track, which is exactly the reputation and history that Grosjean has. and virtually all the other drivers on the grid seem to have no problem doing day in and day out!
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30/11/2020 18:05:24 0 0
bbc
Gaining positions...

Yet Stewards' favourite Kvyat WAS penalised 10 seconds for doing just that yesterday..
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29/11/2020 18:15:15 8 1
bbc
Those firesuits REALLY work. Amazing that he got himself out of that. Took a few seconds to work out where he was, watching the footage.
75
29/11/2020 18:19:53 3 2
bbc
I took a few seconds to....
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29/11/2020 18:17:22 5 6
bbc
Boring
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29/11/2020 18:19:58 2 0
bbc
I think you mean ddddduuuuuulllll!!!
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29/11/2020 17:45:15 26 32
bbc
Sir Lewis Hamilton of Stevenage thrashes the "opposition" once again.
GOAT.
Suck it yet again haters :-D
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29/11/2020 18:21:21 3 5
bbc
I'm surprised mr equality went to Bahrain!!
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29/11/2020 18:18:50 0 9
bbc
It's a boring sport . The same person wins every week . It used to be competitive not its not . P.s. answered your comment without personal abuse . Try it my intelligent friend
78
29/11/2020 18:21:36 6 0
bbc
Don’t watch it then if you don’t enjoy the modern F1

Don’t comment either. Simple as that. You have nothing to offer.
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29/11/2020 18:25:58 0 13
bbc
Didn't watch . It's boring .... but could have predicted the result . Broom... broom
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Cam
29/11/2020 18:01:55 9 2
bbc
F1 is the wealthiest form of motorsport with the greatest spectator numbers and highest level of investment. It attracts an intellectual audience that understand and appreciate physics, aerospace technologies and elite manifestations of science.
Some people find that dull because they can’t are only stimulated by things like crashes and, erm, more crashes.
It’s your loss buddy. Have fun.
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LEO
29/11/2020 18:21:49 3 12
bbc
Pardon me for not having intimate knowledge of physics, aerospace technologies and elite manifestations of science! I don't watch for crashes, I watch for a race. In no other sport does the equipment give such an advantage to the user. Therefore LH, good as he is, can never be the GOAT.
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29/11/2020 22:54:32 0 5
bbc
100% correct pal
Not true of O’Sullivans cue , federers racket or ronaldos right foot
F1 is about the car not the driver
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29/11/2020 17:50:48 18 7
bbc
I'd rather be a "hater" of Hamilton for not caring that he won if it meant having enough dignity and respect to hope Grosjean is okay after such an accident.

Not the right time or place for your usual tosh.
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29/11/2020 18:21:58 4 5
bbc
Well said , he's such a hypocrite
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29/11/2020 19:08:34 2 4
bbc
blub blub. poor racist
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29/11/2020 19:53:36 1 1
bbc
That wasn't his point. Nice try though.
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29/11/2020 18:23:23 3 7
bbc
How on earth did Bottas get a drive with Mercedes? His car is so superior to all else in the field but the way he is performing he will end up 3rd in a 2 horse race. Mind you, he is MILES behind Hamilton, so I am not sure my 2 horse race comment is appropriate. Bottas is a decent man but, boy, he is just not good.
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29/11/2020 18:12:28 14 4
bbc
If you have a problem with what some F1 drivers get payed I bet everything you wouldn't swap seats with Grosjean
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29/11/2020 18:23:35 9 5
bbc
...paid...
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29/11/2020 18:29:48 1 4
bbc
condescending
I'm amazed Lewis raced there as he's so aware of equality etc , oh sorry when it suits the hypocrite ! Removed
83
29/11/2020 18:24:33 0 0
bbc
Your trollinh game is weak, Padawan.
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29/11/2020 18:12:15 29 13
bbc
Amazing, focused and superior drive by the best F1 driver of all time. Congrats Lewis and Mercedes. ??
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LEO
29/11/2020 18:25:13 13 57
bbc
In no other sport does the equipment give the user such an advantage. Good as he is, LH can never be the GOAT,
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Zac
29/11/2020 19:12:31 9 0
bbc
Jonathon Rea would like to introduce himself.
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29/11/2020 20:02:45 4 0
bbc
What do life saving systems have to do with a driver’s ability and skill to get the most out of his car and cross the finish line first? In the context of today’s race.
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29/11/2020 20:48:10 1 5
bbc
True That! Federer is what we could symbolise as a GOAT, the man with a racket and frankly winning 20 grand slams with single hand only...didn't even needed two hands for a back hand return.
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29/11/2020 23:20:00 4 3
bbc
He is the GOAT. You are a lamb.
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30/11/2020 01:07:26 5 0
bbc
ENOUGH. Whoever is the GOAT is a matter of personal choice.
But I have to ask... who is the GOAT then? (if going by your logic)
Fangio had the best car
Clark had the best car
Senna had the best car
Schumacher had the best car

Best drivers end up in best cars.
Just like best footballers end up playing for best teams.

So I'm guessing you think the GOAT is Pastor Maldonado?
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30/11/2020 05:11:26 0 3
bbc
Whatever, douche
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30/11/2020 09:05:26 4 0
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"In no other sport does the equipment give the user such an advantage. Good as he is, LH can never be the GOAT,"

I've never heard any of the other drivers, or anyone else in F1, say that. But yes, F1 is a team sport, and LH never fails to acknowledge the contribution of the whole team in his success.
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30/11/2020 11:36:17 3 0
bbc
In 13 seasons he has beaten his teammate 10 times and drawn once, he is in the best car at the moment but hasn't always been so. Schumacher, Fangio, Alonso, Prost, Senna, Mansell, Hill, Button also had dominant cars when they won. And in at least 3 seasons where he won the championship, there have been other cars which are at least equal to or better than his.
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29/11/2020 18:19:29 13 28
bbc
Did Lewis not boycott the race ? No doubt he criticized Bahrain record on human rights !! Of course he didn't
85
29/11/2020 18:25:41 12 20
bbc
Totally agree. Boycotting this race and the Saudi GP would constitute genuine action. Words are cheap.
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29/11/2020 18:38:34 6 1
bbc
The government is planning to “opt out” of parts of the European convention on human rights in order to speed up deportations of asylum seekers and protect British troops serving overseas from legal action.

Would you be boycotting UK?

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2020/sep/13/uk-government-plans-to-remove-key-human-rights-protections
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CJR
29/11/2020 19:47:36 3 0
bbc
Wrong F1 have signed a contract to race there. How would you feel if your employer broke your contract? Think on before posting
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Bob
29/11/2020 18:15:23 30 3
bbc
Lots of people talking about Imola 1994 in these comments. Please take time to remember Jules Bianchi who died in 2015. There is more to be done to increase safety and we got very lucky today as racing fans
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29/11/2020 18:25:43 8 4
bbc
Romain ended up in a metal barrier not too dissimilar to Imola 94 when Aryton ended up in a concrete barrier, both at more or less full speed.

Jules made an error while driving at speed when he should be slowing, he skipped across the gravel and hit the rescue tractor. As horrible as Jules' accident was, it is not relevant to this situation.

I'm not forgetting JB17 either.
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29/11/2020 18:33:27 3 1
bbc
The fact is that the halo would probably have saved Jules Bianchi as it undoubtably saved saved Roman Grosjean today
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29/11/2020 23:22:47 1 0
bbc
would the halo have helped jules against the tractor is a tough 1 to call but there is a vety good chance senna survives at imola
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29/11/2020 18:21:36 6 0
bbc
Don’t watch it then if you don’t enjoy the modern F1

Don’t comment either. Simple as that. You have nothing to offer.
87
29/11/2020 18:25:58 0 13
bbc
Didn't watch . It's boring .... but could have predicted the result . Broom... broom
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30/11/2020 00:24:09 1 0
bbc
Could have easily predicted Perez retirement, Bottas P9, Albon P3, Mclaren climbing the field to P4 & 5? I don't think so
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29/11/2020 18:19:50 1 13
bbc
Of course, you would be able to react better wouldn’t you?

It’s a race. It’s about gaining positions. I think any driver will have attempted that move in that position.
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29/11/2020 18:26:25 10 1
bbc
a) it's not about reaction time, its about making sure there's enough space to the side of you, just like on the highway.

b) it's about gaining posns without driving yourself or everyone else off the track, which is exactly the reputation and history that Grosjean has. and virtually all the other drivers on the grid seem to have no problem doing day in and day out!
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29/11/2020 18:37:43 1 6
bbc
If he was as bad as YOU claim, he would have lost his seat years ago. So you’re clearly wrong on that one.

This isn’t motorway driving. It’s fine margins. An opening can disappear in a blink of an eye, and on this occasion it nearly cost him his life. it’s those risks that got him to the pinnacle of motor racing.

It’s easy to say what you are with the benefit of hindsight and slow-motion replays
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29/11/2020 18:26:29 6 24
bbc
sadly the crashes were the only highlights. another tremendously tedious serving of dire shyte from F1. If you ever wanted to know why so many think that F1 is little more than a money laundering service, this was it.
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29/11/2020 18:32:50 15 1
bbc
So why do you watch?
Removed
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29/11/2020 17:49:59 197 2
bbc
Instantly thought that I was witnessing a fatality - so pleased to see Grosjean come out of that not just alive, but comparatively unharmed - absolutely amazing.
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29/11/2020 18:27:49 19 1
bbc
It's always good to see a driver walk away from a crash, especially one that horrific.
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Cam
29/11/2020 17:44:53 74 10
bbc
How boring must your life be when you supposedly watch something boring for an hour and a half just so you can log onto Have Your Say just in order to write “BORING”???!!!
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29/11/2020 18:28:40 37 2
bbc
They don't watch it.
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29/11/2020 22:47:52 2 0
bbc
Haha
He is right though !
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29/11/2020 18:19:29 13 28
bbc
Did Lewis not boycott the race ? No doubt he criticized Bahrain record on human rights !! Of course he didn't
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29/11/2020 18:28:44 5 0
bbc
Of course he did. Don't be biased!

Lewis Hamilton: Formula 1 'needs to do more' on human rights in host countries

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/55091709
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29/11/2020 18:29:03 31 14
bbc
I wonder what some of these jealous, illiterate trolls will post when Hamilton wins the BBC SPOTY and then gets knighted? Can't wait!
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29/11/2020 21:40:21 5 6
bbc
Rashford
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29/11/2020 22:50:52 5 9
bbc
Give the award to his car
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29/11/2020 18:12:27 3 0
bbc
Err, didn't say that was a good thing. Just saying that when they were, before the brilliant safety work, winning championships over a number of years was far less likely.
94
29/11/2020 18:29:05 5 0
bbc
Jackie Stewart retired because he knew he was riding his luck and was tired of his rivals dying on a regular basis.
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29/11/2020 18:23:35 9 5
bbc
...paid...
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29/11/2020 18:29:48 1 4
bbc
condescending
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29/11/2020 18:37:15 3 2
bbc
???????
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29/11/2020 18:30:17 17 6
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The Goat & not finished yet, he's too good for a knighthood given they hand it out to crooks like green
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29/11/2020 19:24:20 3 33
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29/11/2020 18:31:35 10 2
bbc
The worse thing was the marshals fighting the fire with toy extinguishers. Needs a rethink. Didn’t think modern F1 cars could break in half and fireball. He is a lucky young man. Hope it doesn’t affect his driving.
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29/11/2020 18:36:21 11 0
bbc
They can, they can at that. The FIA tests on the car before the start of the season are tough and rigorous for a reason and if the FIA isn't satisifed the car has to be redesigned so it passes the next time around.

Despite all the tests, only the most violent and unlikely situation can cause the car to be cleaved like that, it can still happen. Not everything can be accounted for unfortunately.
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29/11/2020 18:32:41 4 4
bbc
Horrifying accident. Grosjean's crash was an incident the like of which has not been seen for many years and he is a luck man to walk away. I have been saying for a while that with some of the manoeuvres its only matter of time before someone touches or nudges at full throttle and it will be carnage. Hamilton has had a few escapes but your luck only lasts for so long.
89
29/11/2020 18:26:29 6 24
bbc
sadly the crashes were the only highlights. another tremendously tedious serving of dire shyte from F1. If you ever wanted to know why so many think that F1 is little more than a money laundering service, this was it.
99
29/11/2020 18:32:50 15 1
bbc
So why do you watch?
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Zac
29/11/2020 19:04:21 3 1
bbc
So he can come on here and whine about it, obviously.
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29/11/2020 19:11:45 1 1
bbc
Do you say you don't like a book without reading it first then?
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29/11/2020 18:33:16 2 16
bbc
BBC - why are you allowing comments HYS on this? disgraceful
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29/11/2020 18:40:33 2 16
bbc
and why show the picture if a mans charred survival cell ?? disgraceful reporting @AB