'France is our grand final of 2020'
28/11/2020 | sport | rugbyunion | 692
England head coach Eddie Jones says his side have still not reached their peak as they prepare to face France in the Autumn Nations Cup final.
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28/11/2020 19:44:34 6 19
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Boring rugby, kick kick kick.
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28/11/2020 19:45:01 54 2
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Well said Sam Underhill :-)
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28/11/2020 19:46:53 55 1
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The breakdown rules, which are intended to speed the game up, are full of unintended consequences. Players are frightened to go wide in case they get isolated and then jackeled (spelling ?). The safer option is to kick or keep driving into the middle where the support is. Rethink lawmakers ?
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29/11/2020 03:46:13 35 0
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Well said. It's a forwards game now, tries get scored almost unseen under a pile of bodies, drive after drive where the ball is rarely seen, the whole character of big games have changed. Passing to the backs is a risk so it's arial ping-pong, position over possession. Doesn't make for an exciting game even when your team win. Big meaty players are dominating as crafty nimble weavers aren't picked
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29/11/2020 05:30:57 5 0
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It has always been the case that players who get isolated are likely to lose the ball. In modern times they lose it a bit sooner than previously because they are no longer allowed to hang on to it for dear life once they have been tackled. The huge increase in playing standards since the game went professional means that modern teams must also protect their possession much more carefully.
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AW
28/11/2020 19:47:34 9 3
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Dull tactics from both sides.. lots of kicking. But a win is a win!
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29/11/2020 00:58:02 1 1
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Kicking has always been part of the game
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28/11/2020 19:48:28 109 22
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A good team playing badly beat a bad team playing well.
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28/11/2020 20:52:52 32 21
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Nah a good team playing badly beat a bad team playing badly.
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29/11/2020 14:40:47 0 0
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In your dreams mate
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29/11/2020 14:41:21 0 4
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England won because of the ref
Nice to pound the provinces again. Removed
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28/11/2020 19:52:08 8 4
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No wonder we're seen as being arrogant !
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28/11/2020 19:51:02 75 8
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A very flat England performance. How much longer can Billy Vunipola keep Simmonds out?! He is a shadow of the player he used to be.
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28/11/2020 19:53:09 18 34
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And yet still preferable to Sam Simmons. Tells you all you need to know
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28/11/2020 19:58:19 11 1
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He does a lot of the "grunt" that Simmonds is not great at. He's competing with Curry, Underhill, Earle, Willis and the other Curry. He suits the Exeter style , not sure about England. Open to opinion !
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28/11/2020 20:31:45 2 2
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Because he is not good enough Yet!
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28/11/2020 22:07:22 3 3
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Simmonds doesn’t fit the England mould, he’s lacking ballast for getting the upper hand up close. He’s brilliant but not what England can use.
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mja
28/11/2020 22:19:27 11 2
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Billy Vunipola, made 11 carries, double any other England player, broke the gain line on all 11 occasions, Simmons is great, but cannot do what Billy does for England, bashing into 3 international defenders and braking the gain line. Also Vunipola has only played 5 games since breaking his arm, give him 5 more and then compare.
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28/11/2020 23:35:25 2 0
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Sam S is the best No8 in English rugby, & given the quality in the Premiership, that's saying something. EJ has made a mistake not picking him. SS has every quality reqd at intl level, his omission is an EJ selection error & nothing more. Meanwhile, Chiefs are benefiting from Sam's speed, power & try scoring skills.
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29/11/2020 05:14:53 3 0
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Simmonds got another two tries this weekend. superb player who deserves his chance if jones doesnt rate him does he have a scottish granny?
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29/11/2020 06:52:01 0 0
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2 totally different types of player.
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29/11/2020 07:45:41 1 0
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I agree, SS should walk in to this England side on his current form.
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29/11/2020 08:19:16 1 0
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Simmons is good if you can bring him on and off at certain times. If the team stuck for ideas and going backwards Billy V can rescue the situation with solid yards straight up the guts wet or dry, and defend hard against bohemoths like himself. Simons could probably double as a reserve back, which says it all
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29/11/2020 10:50:32 2 0
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I have been very critical of Billy V., but I actually thought that was the best he has played for ages. He did carry much better. That said, I'd love to see Simmonds and Dombrandt given a chance. I don't understand why EJ prefers Earl to Simmonds on the bench.
Nice to pound the provinces again. Removed
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28/11/2020 19:52:08 8 4
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No wonder we're seen as being arrogant !
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28/11/2020 19:52:31 4 4
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Some of the kicking poorly executed, never really under pressure. Will need to step up for France. Shame Robson only given 4 minutes
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28/11/2020 20:14:04 2 0
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If it is France
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28/11/2020 19:51:02 75 8
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A very flat England performance. How much longer can Billy Vunipola keep Simmonds out?! He is a shadow of the player he used to be.
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28/11/2020 19:53:09 18 34
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And yet still preferable to Sam Simmons. Tells you all you need to know
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28/11/2020 19:55:26 5 4
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What about only allowing kicks from within your own 22 ?
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28/11/2020 21:01:51 2 0
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If you did that, the defenses would string themselves across the pitch with no depth.
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Dan
28/11/2020 19:56:07 6 18
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Not just unexciting rugby but dreadful coverage from Prime. Reminded me of the French camera work from 20 years ago. Sadly nothing to remind us of the French flare or Welsh wizardry from 20 or 30 years ago. England - very strong up front but lacking imagination. Why does the petulant England captain come across as so uninspiring?
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28/11/2020 20:01:05 4 0
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20 years ago Wales were regularly losing very badly to teams. Perhaps 50 years ago
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28/11/2020 20:01:55 9 0
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Why petulant Dan ? What about AWJ and Biggar ? They should concentrate on their own game instead of constant whining, whinging and petulance
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28/11/2020 20:02:04 1 0
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I switched over to S4C and watched the 2nd half with Welsh commentary. ??
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28/11/2020 20:33:16 1 0
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That’s probably because you don’t like him or the club he plays for!
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28/11/2020 20:56:42 0 0
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Because he's a one trick pony !
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29/11/2020 09:39:44 0 0
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30 years ago Wales was getting pummeled by half of Samoa
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28/11/2020 19:51:02 75 8
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A very flat England performance. How much longer can Billy Vunipola keep Simmonds out?! He is a shadow of the player he used to be.
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28/11/2020 19:58:19 11 1
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He does a lot of the "grunt" that Simmonds is not great at. He's competing with Curry, Underhill, Earle, Willis and the other Curry. He suits the Exeter style , not sure about England. Open to opinion !
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28/11/2020 20:10:29 12 4
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Simmonds is more than capable of doing the "grunt". BV is not dynamic enough to break tackles and make the yardage that he once did. He also is losing a lot of ball in contact.
Offers nothing in the lineout.
It's time to look elsewhere at 8.
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28/11/2020 22:58:41 1 4
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Grunt ? Ryan Elias has a shocker, yet he stripped Billy of the ball..... Billy is only in because Eddie was Sarries not so long ago....
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28/11/2020 19:59:35 10 17
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I love the fact Eddie never comes over as a smug arrogant know it all. He never acts like the ‘small man’ he is. What a guy.
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28/11/2020 20:22:50 23 3
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Chin up. It’s only 7/7 losses against tier 1 opposition this year.
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29/11/2020 08:36:36 0 0
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Dont hate the man, hate the inadequate rugby system of your nation
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Dan
28/11/2020 19:56:07 6 18
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Not just unexciting rugby but dreadful coverage from Prime. Reminded me of the French camera work from 20 years ago. Sadly nothing to remind us of the French flare or Welsh wizardry from 20 or 30 years ago. England - very strong up front but lacking imagination. Why does the petulant England captain come across as so uninspiring?
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28/11/2020 20:01:05 4 0
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20 years ago Wales were regularly losing very badly to teams. Perhaps 50 years ago
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Dan
28/11/2020 20:12:58 0 0
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Fair shout - I forget how old I am!
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Dan
28/11/2020 19:56:07 6 18
bbc
Not just unexciting rugby but dreadful coverage from Prime. Reminded me of the French camera work from 20 years ago. Sadly nothing to remind us of the French flare or Welsh wizardry from 20 or 30 years ago. England - very strong up front but lacking imagination. Why does the petulant England captain come across as so uninspiring?
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28/11/2020 20:01:55 9 0
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Why petulant Dan ? What about AWJ and Biggar ? They should concentrate on their own game instead of constant whining, whinging and petulance
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Dan
28/11/2020 20:11:20 4 0
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Couldn't agree more. But I've grown out of discussing Whinge Jones (who is a bloody great 2nd row!) and really don't care much about average Biggar. If England had an inspiring captain somewhere they could be very special.
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Dan
28/11/2020 19:56:07 6 18
bbc
Not just unexciting rugby but dreadful coverage from Prime. Reminded me of the French camera work from 20 years ago. Sadly nothing to remind us of the French flare or Welsh wizardry from 20 or 30 years ago. England - very strong up front but lacking imagination. Why does the petulant England captain come across as so uninspiring?
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28/11/2020 20:02:04 1 0
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I switched over to S4C and watched the 2nd half with Welsh commentary. ??
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28/11/2020 20:06:07 5 0
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Jonathan Davies is a lot more bearable when you can’t understand him. At least I think it was him.
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28/11/2020 20:02:06 3 3
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Without fans it's a bit of tough watch...
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29/11/2020 01:03:58 1 0
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All those idiots dressed in daffodil hats.. must have been the reason
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28/11/2020 20:03:19 9 12
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Don't think England will be too happy with that win against a Welash team missing so many first team starters, Jon Davies,Navidi, Tipuric, Moriarty, Ken Owens, Liam Williams to name a few .....
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28/11/2020 20:22:26 15 2
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And yet the new boys played better than the first team starters have for quite some time.
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28/11/2020 20:48:47 2 0
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England put in a more convincing win against the 1st team starters than they did against the new boys.
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28/11/2020 23:05:05 2 0
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Would you drop Faletau then, the back 3 of 1/2p, Zammit and Adams would not have been hugely improved by cheap shot, and JD2 looks well past his sell by date.

Do you mean "to name all of them" rather than "a few", or are there other first team starters missing?
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Al
29/11/2020 02:52:22 1 0
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These so called absentees are just a smoke screen

Jon Davies and Liam Williams have done nothing this year when fit

Moriarty and Navidi are nothing special either
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Al
29/11/2020 02:53:45 3 0
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Tuilagi and Nowell are missing and Watson and Cowan Dickie aren’t yet fully fit
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29/11/2020 08:35:41 0 0
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Why are they not there
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28/11/2020 20:03:41 0 6
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From it's deathbed League has cursed Union.
Removed
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28/11/2020 20:05:43 1 7
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And willed it it's free weights and roids.
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28/11/2020 20:02:04 1 0
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I switched over to S4C and watched the 2nd half with Welsh commentary. ??
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28/11/2020 20:06:07 5 0
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Jonathan Davies is a lot more bearable when you can’t understand him. At least I think it was him.
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28/11/2020 23:09:32 0 0
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So what is the welsh for "NUMBERS"?
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W 6
28/11/2020 20:07:54 40 8
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Win is a win. Jones is right, England were sloppy in places today but they beat a pretty mediocre Welsh team who were playing some of their best rugby since Gatland left. Nothing too much to worry about.
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28/11/2020 20:08:18 11 5
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Not sure if it was lacking precision or more lacking ambition ?

65% possession in the first half and a 4 point lead .... almost as if they didn’t know what to do with it as so much of their game is based on kicking.
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28/11/2020 21:02:15 17 3
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You only need to beat what is in front of you and England did so convincingly. Not sure Wales made the same complaints about the years of Warrenball...
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28/11/2020 19:58:19 11 1
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He does a lot of the "grunt" that Simmonds is not great at. He's competing with Curry, Underhill, Earle, Willis and the other Curry. He suits the Exeter style , not sure about England. Open to opinion !
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28/11/2020 20:10:29 12 4
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Simmonds is more than capable of doing the "grunt". BV is not dynamic enough to break tackles and make the yardage that he once did. He also is losing a lot of ball in contact.
Offers nothing in the lineout.
It's time to look elsewhere at 8.
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28/11/2020 20:26:45 3 0
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The guy from Harlequins?
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28/11/2020 20:46:26 10 3
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Agree that Billy doesn't look like he has the dynamism to break tackles anymore. He looks overweight and is slow from a standing start, and should be dropped

The trouble is when he does come onto the ball at pace, he now slows down and does a little shuffle, losing all his momentum.

Still think symonds is a bit light weight for an international 8

I'd go for Dombrandt
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28/11/2020 20:10:38 9 8
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Saving it for the final. A grand slam and a 2nd 6 nations title beckons, all in 1 year.
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28/11/2020 20:13:52 2 6
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???????????????????????????????????? yeah ????????????
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28/11/2020 20:01:55 9 0
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Why petulant Dan ? What about AWJ and Biggar ? They should concentrate on their own game instead of constant whining, whinging and petulance
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Dan
28/11/2020 20:11:20 4 0
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Couldn't agree more. But I've grown out of discussing Whinge Jones (who is a bloody great 2nd row!) and really don't care much about average Biggar. If England had an inspiring captain somewhere they could be very special.
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28/11/2020 20:01:05 4 0
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20 years ago Wales were regularly losing very badly to teams. Perhaps 50 years ago
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Dan
28/11/2020 20:12:58 0 0
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Fair shout - I forget how old I am!
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28/11/2020 20:10:38 9 8
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Saving it for the final. A grand slam and a 2nd 6 nations title beckons, all in 1 year.
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28/11/2020 20:13:52 2 6
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???????????????????????????????????? yeah ????????????
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28/11/2020 21:43:38 1 0
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Wales are awful
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28/11/2020 19:52:31 4 4
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Some of the kicking poorly executed, never really under pressure. Will need to step up for France. Shame Robson only given 4 minutes
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28/11/2020 20:14:04 2 0
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If it is France
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4o7
28/11/2020 20:50:11 1 2
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Dupont made Youngs eat dirt the last time they played against each other. Will be interesting to see if he does better without any World Cup hangover.
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28/11/2020 20:03:41 0 6
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From it's deathbed League has cursed Union.
Removed
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28/11/2020 20:03:19 9 12
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Don't think England will be too happy with that win against a Welash team missing so many first team starters, Jon Davies,Navidi, Tipuric, Moriarty, Ken Owens, Liam Williams to name a few .....
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28/11/2020 20:22:26 15 2
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And yet the new boys played better than the first team starters have for quite some time.
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28/11/2020 19:59:35 10 17
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I love the fact Eddie never comes over as a smug arrogant know it all. He never acts like the ‘small man’ he is. What a guy.
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28/11/2020 20:22:50 23 3
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Chin up. It’s only 7/7 losses against tier 1 opposition this year.
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28/11/2020 20:57:50 4 0
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You Sir, win the reposte of the day award for that one. Bravo, bravo indeed!
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28/11/2020 20:57:59 5 0
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Shame I can’t like this follow up twice!!
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28/11/2020 23:08:17 0 2
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Not quite, amazingly Italy are still counted as Tier 1, so Wales are 7 from 8 against tier 1 nations, and 2 of those were last year.

So Wales aren't quite as bad as you make out, although when a 5th/6th play-off against Italy in a meaningless tournament becomes a massive game, all is not well.
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28/11/2020 20:24:13 7 38
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Sour grapes from Jones. England don’t win by a cricket score and it is entirety their fault, nothing to do with the Welsh performance. With the strength in depth and talent pool that England have, I think Jones’s record is not that impressive. Any decent top coach could run England.
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28/11/2020 20:30:42 10 1
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yaaawwwwnnn!
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28/11/2020 20:32:59 4 0
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Well most "decent top coaches" have failed to do so consistently over the years, despite England's always-mentioned player depth and talent pool.
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28/11/2020 20:45:18 7 0
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Do you know what Jones record is? You dont think that's impressive? Jeez what do you want?!
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28/11/2020 22:01:19 6 0
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Shut up you nause, wales win you are the greatest side in the world, England win, they didn't win by enough because they have an advantage against the poor old little countries
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28/11/2020 20:25:15 4 4
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It looked like England weren't used to having so much possession. The game was fairly boring as there was little competition across the pitch and especially at set pieces. Bring on France and a better game!
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28/11/2020 21:06:34 6 0
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I agree that playing France will bring a much better performance from England
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28/11/2020 20:10:29 12 4
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Simmonds is more than capable of doing the "grunt". BV is not dynamic enough to break tackles and make the yardage that he once did. He also is losing a lot of ball in contact.
Offers nothing in the lineout.
It's time to look elsewhere at 8.
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28/11/2020 20:26:45 3 0
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The guy from Harlequins?
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29/11/2020 05:33:12 0 0
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Alex Dombrandt. Needs to be fitter and faster before he will get a chance. There's no reason why he shouldn't achieve that if he is prepared to work at it.
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28/11/2020 20:24:13 7 38
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Sour grapes from Jones. England don’t win by a cricket score and it is entirety their fault, nothing to do with the Welsh performance. With the strength in depth and talent pool that England have, I think Jones’s record is not that impressive. Any decent top coach could run England.
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28/11/2020 20:30:42 10 1
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yaaawwwwnnn!
Is your first name Richard, in which case are you known as DICK? Removed
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28/11/2020 19:51:02 75 8
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A very flat England performance. How much longer can Billy Vunipola keep Simmonds out?! He is a shadow of the player he used to be.
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28/11/2020 20:31:45 2 2
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Because he is not good enough Yet!
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4o7
28/11/2020 20:47:42 6 0
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This sort of comment makes me laugh, as you only have to see the performance of Simmonds (and the rest of the chiefs pack) when they came up against Sale or Bath. You can't honestly say that Simmonds was worse.
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29/11/2020 20:00:24 0 0
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You mean the European player of the year? Crikey what award did BV win? "Best Player in the Universe"?
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28/11/2020 20:31:48 67 22
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That was the dullest rugby match I have ever watched. England were so much better than Wales, but still insisted playing low risk rugby. Credit to wales for sticking in there, but just so poor to watch.
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Gaz
29/11/2020 10:03:11 11 6
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Totally agree. And the childish "go and watch rugby league if you don't like it" comment is starting to look like serious advice as opposed to the sarcasm intended. Dull
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28/11/2020 20:24:13 7 38
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Sour grapes from Jones. England don’t win by a cricket score and it is entirety their fault, nothing to do with the Welsh performance. With the strength in depth and talent pool that England have, I think Jones’s record is not that impressive. Any decent top coach could run England.
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28/11/2020 20:32:59 4 0
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Well most "decent top coaches" have failed to do so consistently over the years, despite England's always-mentioned player depth and talent pool.
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Dan
28/11/2020 19:56:07 6 18
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Not just unexciting rugby but dreadful coverage from Prime. Reminded me of the French camera work from 20 years ago. Sadly nothing to remind us of the French flare or Welsh wizardry from 20 or 30 years ago. England - very strong up front but lacking imagination. Why does the petulant England captain come across as so uninspiring?
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28/11/2020 20:33:16 1 0
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That’s probably because you don’t like him or the club he plays for!
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28/11/2020 20:35:09 16 1
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The big difference between the sides was the skill levels of the tight 5's. Wales almost matched England for grunt, but not a single member of their 5 had decent hands or the ability to pass in contact. Pivac needs to find big forwards with skills or they are going nowhere.
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28/11/2020 20:38:41 14 80
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The big difference was the ref or were you watching a different game
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29/11/2020 12:05:04 1 0
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From what I saw, the Welsh front row had a preconceived cheating "game plan" as they knew they could not compete fairly at the scrum - and thought they would get away with it.
Fortunately, ref spotted it straight away, and it was only in last 20 it was abandoned (and Welsh scrum held its own, anyway).
No to cheats.
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28/11/2020 20:35:46 30 19
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Look at Pivac crying about the result. Sour grapes! So funny. A very graceless man to manage a very graceless team. As England surge forward without needing to get out of 2nd gear, Wales head back into the doldrums. Perfect.
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28/11/2020 20:38:03 7 28
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Arrogance personified. Come on France.
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28/11/2020 20:59:40 4 6
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Obviously watched a different game to the one I did. England deserved to win but should not have needed so much help from M. Poite.
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28/11/2020 22:02:59 1 1
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So, it's wrong to query some decisions; crying? Really?
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28/11/2020 22:03:04 2 4
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This demonstrates your lack of grace. The better team won but TV play backs reveal that the referee got it wrong. It is clear that Biggar was taken out in the air and his decision led to an England try. The referee had a poor game and I include his decision to ignore the TMO and the knock on that led to Wales' first try. Methinks less booze whilst the monkey in you catches up with humanity.
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28/11/2020 22:14:38 3 3
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If a Welsh player headbutted an English player World Rugby would be straight on the case..... Bill Beaumont would insist on justice for his boys....
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28/11/2020 20:36:41 112 21
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Thought Itoje easily won the contest between him and Alwyn Jones.
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28/11/2020 20:47:37 49 11
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Jones wasn't even the best Welsh 2nd row
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28/11/2020 21:00:11 13 4
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Absolutely. Time for AWJ to call it a day at international level. Fantastic player at his best and a great captain.
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28/11/2020 21:09:42 20 8
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If he hadn't been trying to tell the ref the rules I wouldn't have noticed he was playing
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28/11/2020 22:12:37 9 5
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The old fella managed 15 tackles, was still bounding around at final whistle, hardly past it
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Imo
29/11/2020 16:42:21 1 1
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and whats your evidence for that, other than your red rose tinted glasses? Have you seen the stats? Not a great deal to separate the two of them and given that Itoje is in his prime and AWJ is 35 then your assertion is pretty baseless.
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29/11/2020 17:52:49 0 0
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Stephen Jones in The Times rated AWJ 8 as opposed to MI's 7. Whilst I don't have much time for SJ, I don't think he is far out in his rating. The trolls always pick AWJ out for criticism. Why? Probably because he's welsh. Also probably because they don't see his work rate - something to do with not really understanding the game.
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29/11/2020 22:21:46 0 0
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In your dresms mate
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29/11/2020 22:57:27 1 0
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Was AWJ playing ?
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28/11/2020 20:35:46 30 19
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Look at Pivac crying about the result. Sour grapes! So funny. A very graceless man to manage a very graceless team. As England surge forward without needing to get out of 2nd gear, Wales head back into the doldrums. Perfect.
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28/11/2020 20:38:03 7 28
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Arrogance personified. Come on France.
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28/11/2020 20:56:08 8 0
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How many different countries shirts have you actually got?! Every team England play and beat must make you a nightmare to live with, even when your team beat Georgia!
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28/11/2020 20:57:49 7 3
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Lack of sense of humour personified
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28/11/2020 20:59:18 12 2
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Btw does it make it awkward to hate the English so much when you have so many English pla?
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28/11/2020 22:18:15 8 0
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Mate some English fans use deliberate arrogance to fire back at all the hatred aimed toward us. It’s the “No-one likes us we don’t care” attitude. I can see where they are coming from - as an Anglo-Welsh (proudly) Englishman, the bile we receive mainly from Scots and Welsh is quite horrendous.
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Al
29/11/2020 02:44:25 1 0
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They’ve dismantled Whales twice this year
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28/11/2020 20:35:09 16 1
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The big difference between the sides was the skill levels of the tight 5's. Wales almost matched England for grunt, but not a single member of their 5 had decent hands or the ability to pass in contact. Pivac needs to find big forwards with skills or they are going nowhere.
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28/11/2020 20:38:41 14 80
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The big difference was the ref or were you watching a different game
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28/11/2020 20:43:55 12 3
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You obviously were!
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28/11/2020 21:04:31 23 7
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By ref, you mean AWJ? Thought he was anonymous.
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28/11/2020 22:16:04 4 1
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Lols! Joker
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mja
28/11/2020 22:23:41 8 0
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Unbiased,

In the season of panto

'Oh no your not'
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29/11/2020 00:47:15 4 2
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Ref was bad for both sides.
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29/11/2020 06:31:39 3 2
bbc
Only watched the highlights. Biggar will get himself hurt jumping into people knees up. Deliberate tactic. Ref got that right. His technique has been figured out. EDs hit was fair hit the ball and attackers arms bounced off and luckily for both missed his head. Didnt see the scrums. But click bait headlines journalists please stop bbc i pay your wages pls stop...
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28/11/2020 20:38:41 14 80
bbc
The big difference was the ref or were you watching a different game
47
28/11/2020 20:43:55 12 3
bbc
You obviously were!
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28/11/2020 20:24:13 7 38
bbc
Sour grapes from Jones. England don’t win by a cricket score and it is entirety their fault, nothing to do with the Welsh performance. With the strength in depth and talent pool that England have, I think Jones’s record is not that impressive. Any decent top coach could run England.
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28/11/2020 20:45:18 7 0
bbc
Do you know what Jones record is? You dont think that's impressive? Jeez what do you want?!
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Bob
28/11/2020 21:11:40 2 0
bbc
Pivac obviously...
85
28/11/2020 21:43:39 0 0
bbc
A RWC win and a 6N grand slam every year, please. Don’t you want that?
25
28/11/2020 20:10:29 12 4
bbc
Simmonds is more than capable of doing the "grunt". BV is not dynamic enough to break tackles and make the yardage that he once did. He also is losing a lot of ball in contact.
Offers nothing in the lineout.
It's time to look elsewhere at 8.
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28/11/2020 20:46:26 10 3
bbc
Agree that Billy doesn't look like he has the dynamism to break tackles anymore. He looks overweight and is slow from a standing start, and should be dropped

The trouble is when he does come onto the ball at pace, he now slows down and does a little shuffle, losing all his momentum.

Still think symonds is a bit light weight for an international 8

I'd go for Dombrandt
63
28/11/2020 21:00:03 5 0
bbc
I've noticed his little jig too...infuriates me. Loses any little momentum he has. I think he's been watching may to much!
683
29/11/2020 22:33:18 0 0
bbc
Simmonds destroyed Dombrandt when Exeter played Quins.
44
28/11/2020 20:36:41 112 21
bbc
Thought Itoje easily won the contest between him and Alwyn Jones.
50
28/11/2020 20:47:37 49 11
bbc
Jones wasn't even the best Welsh 2nd row
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28/11/2020 22:01:51 4 10
bbc
Well, what knowledge you have.
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28/11/2020 23:00:35 17 12
bbc
Jones was the only Welsh 2nd row - Ball and Rowlands are both English.
556
29/11/2020 14:42:06 3 0
bbc
Have you ever thought about making an observation about the rugby instead of running down players, like your namesake your actual knowledge of rugby is pretty poor
678
29/11/2020 22:22:06 0 0
bbc
Your name says it all
38
28/11/2020 20:31:45 2 2
bbc
Because he is not good enough Yet!
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4o7
28/11/2020 20:47:42 6 0
bbc
This sort of comment makes me laugh, as you only have to see the performance of Simmonds (and the rest of the chiefs pack) when they came up against Sale or Bath. You can't honestly say that Simmonds was worse.
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28/11/2020 23:18:16 6 0
bbc
Simmonds is outstanding for Exeter, but the Chiefs generally pick two enormous flankers - 2 from Ewers (over 19st), Armand (over 18st) Vermulen (17st 8).

Rugby is about the best combinations, so although Simmonds is the best English #8, the question is whether Curry, Underhill, Simmonds is the best English back row.
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29/11/2020 06:18:10 1 0
bbc
Simmonds wont win us a game vs SA. A fit billy will. IF he gets fit billy is the best in the world. Billy was a one man pack 3 years ago. Jones has a style and a team balance to think about. Simmonds is unlucky but we are blessed with a great crop of players.
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28/11/2020 20:03:19 9 12
bbc
Don't think England will be too happy with that win against a Welash team missing so many first team starters, Jon Davies,Navidi, Tipuric, Moriarty, Ken Owens, Liam Williams to name a few .....
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28/11/2020 20:48:47 2 0
bbc
England put in a more convincing win against the 1st team starters than they did against the new boys.
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28/11/2020 20:14:04 2 0
bbc
If it is France
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4o7
28/11/2020 20:50:11 1 2
bbc
Dupont made Youngs eat dirt the last time they played against each other. Will be interesting to see if he does better without any World Cup hangover.
575
29/11/2020 15:35:48 1 0
bbc
But Dupont along with the majority of the French 1st and 2nd XV will not be playing next Sunday.
5
28/11/2020 19:48:28 109 22
bbc
A good team playing badly beat a bad team playing well.
54
28/11/2020 20:52:52 32 21
bbc
Nah a good team playing badly beat a bad team playing badly.
253
29/11/2020 06:09:16 4 14
bbc
Wales will have several lions from their team and certainly arent bad. Trot back to thr footy...
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28/11/2020 20:38:03 7 28
bbc
Arrogance personified. Come on France.
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28/11/2020 20:56:08 8 0
bbc
How many different countries shirts have you actually got?! Every team England play and beat must make you a nightmare to live with, even when your team beat Georgia!
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Dan
28/11/2020 19:56:07 6 18
bbc
Not just unexciting rugby but dreadful coverage from Prime. Reminded me of the French camera work from 20 years ago. Sadly nothing to remind us of the French flare or Welsh wizardry from 20 or 30 years ago. England - very strong up front but lacking imagination. Why does the petulant England captain come across as so uninspiring?
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28/11/2020 20:56:42 0 0
bbc
Because he's a one trick pony !
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28/11/2020 20:57:34 64 9
bbc
As a Bristolian living just across the river it’s always an important date in the calendar. I really don’t mind the style in which we win. I will wake up with a smile on my face tomorrow - the silence from across the Severn will be deafening.
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29/11/2020 07:15:38 10 20
bbc
I think you overestimate the performance cycle... 2023 is went it matters. Experimenting and losing now is not a need for deafening silence.
459
29/11/2020 11:09:21 0 0
bbc
The silence always hails from the defeated same as a plethora of excuses, gloating invariably comes from the victors. But gloating invariably comes back to bite us!
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28/11/2020 20:38:03 7 28
bbc
Arrogance personified. Come on France.
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28/11/2020 20:57:49 7 3
bbc
Lack of sense of humour personified
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28/11/2020 20:22:50 23 3
bbc
Chin up. It’s only 7/7 losses against tier 1 opposition this year.
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28/11/2020 20:57:50 4 0
bbc
You Sir, win the reposte of the day award for that one. Bravo, bravo indeed!
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28/11/2020 20:22:50 23 3
bbc
Chin up. It’s only 7/7 losses against tier 1 opposition this year.
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28/11/2020 20:57:59 5 0
bbc
Shame I can’t like this follow up twice!!
45
28/11/2020 20:38:03 7 28
bbc
Arrogance personified. Come on France.
61
28/11/2020 20:59:18 12 2
bbc
Btw does it make it awkward to hate the English so much when you have so many English pla?
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28/11/2020 20:35:46 30 19
bbc
Look at Pivac crying about the result. Sour grapes! So funny. A very graceless man to manage a very graceless team. As England surge forward without needing to get out of 2nd gear, Wales head back into the doldrums. Perfect.
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28/11/2020 20:59:40 4 6
bbc
Obviously watched a different game to the one I did. England deserved to win but should not have needed so much help from M. Poite.
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28/11/2020 20:46:26 10 3
bbc
Agree that Billy doesn't look like he has the dynamism to break tackles anymore. He looks overweight and is slow from a standing start, and should be dropped

The trouble is when he does come onto the ball at pace, he now slows down and does a little shuffle, losing all his momentum.

Still think symonds is a bit light weight for an international 8

I'd go for Dombrandt
63
28/11/2020 21:00:03 5 0
bbc
I've noticed his little jig too...infuriates me. Loses any little momentum he has. I think he's been watching may to much!
66
28/11/2020 21:02:10 1 0
bbc
Maybe he's a closet winger.
44
28/11/2020 20:36:41 112 21
bbc
Thought Itoje easily won the contest between him and Alwyn Jones.
64
28/11/2020 21:00:11 13 4
bbc
Absolutely. Time for AWJ to call it a day at international level. Fantastic player at his best and a great captain.
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29/11/2020 10:29:30 3 2
bbc
The Rumours are that AWJ retired after yesterday's game.
11
28/11/2020 19:55:26 5 4
bbc
What about only allowing kicks from within your own 22 ?
65
28/11/2020 21:01:51 2 0
bbc
If you did that, the defenses would string themselves across the pitch with no depth.
63
28/11/2020 21:00:03 5 0
bbc
I've noticed his little jig too...infuriates me. Loses any little momentum he has. I think he's been watching may to much!
66
28/11/2020 21:02:10 1 0
bbc
Maybe he's a closet winger.
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28/11/2020 20:08:18 11 5
bbc
Not sure if it was lacking precision or more lacking ambition ?

65% possession in the first half and a 4 point lead .... almost as if they didn’t know what to do with it as so much of their game is based on kicking.
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28/11/2020 21:02:15 17 3
bbc
You only need to beat what is in front of you and England did so convincingly. Not sure Wales made the same complaints about the years of Warrenball...
68
28/11/2020 21:02:29 2 1
bbc
Made Wales look average. When they are utterly poo. Boring game.
98
28/11/2020 22:01:05 0 2
bbc
What a Guy- Fawkes, is it?
69
28/11/2020 21:02:35 29 11
bbc
I'm an England fan but if the game continues like this the whole game will die. In 80 mins we had less than 2 of back play. Rugby is about spaces not faces, swerves, sidesteps and dummies not putting your face up someones backside or trying NOT to have the ball.
76
28/11/2020 21:11:25 8 0
bbc
I don't think the rule changes have helped.... Lions will be interesting to see where we are against the power of the Boks
89
28/11/2020 21:55:59 4 4
bbc
you're right. Jones just wants forward domination and Farrell kicking, and when that doesn't work there's no plan B. Backs are just there to make up numbers. A team with good forwards and a playmaker 10 will smash us.
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Ian
28/11/2020 22:16:53 1 0
bbc
If you watch how NZ played today you would change your mind. Brilliant back play
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29/11/2020 00:50:27 5 0
bbc
Watched rugby for 40 years.. first time at Twickenham was a 12-12 draw against Argentina... why people think that rugby union is all about tries is beyond me.. never has been.. never will be
238
29/11/2020 03:48:11 1 1
bbc
Excellent comment. Not going to attract new fans is it?
252
29/11/2020 06:05:35 2 0
bbc
Rugby is about whatever is within the laws of the game. The contest for possession is every bit as important as what you do with the possession. Having said that, there is a great need for scrums and lineouts to form much more quickly.
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28/11/2020 20:38:41 14 80
bbc
The big difference was the ref or were you watching a different game
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28/11/2020 21:04:31 23 7
bbc
By ref, you mean AWJ? Thought he was anonymous.
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29/11/2020 06:32:43 2 1
bbc
I think AWJ is great but may be over the hill now game has changed post world cup.
35
28/11/2020 20:25:15 4 4
bbc
It looked like England weren't used to having so much possession. The game was fairly boring as there was little competition across the pitch and especially at set pieces. Bring on France and a better game!
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28/11/2020 21:06:34 6 0
bbc
I agree that playing France will bring a much better performance from England
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28/11/2020 22:15:17 0 0
bbc
Spot on
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28/11/2020 21:07:11 7 6
bbc
Sorry , what was the final score? I fell asleep mid-game because the style of play is so boring. I'd find my local U10s more entertaining at the moment - and they're all isolating!
73
28/11/2020 21:09:00 6 3
bbc
I think I will go and watch league. Can anybody remember when a scrum did not end in a penalty, was it last year or the year before?
90
28/11/2020 21:56:12 6 0
bbc
It was today Chris, watch the match a second time.
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29/11/2020 00:57:23 1 0
bbc
Bye then, enjoy the uncontested scrums
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28/11/2020 20:36:41 112 21
bbc
Thought Itoje easily won the contest between him and Alwyn Jones.
74
28/11/2020 21:09:42 20 8
bbc
If he hadn't been trying to tell the ref the rules I wouldn't have noticed he was playing
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29/11/2020 00:44:24 9 6
bbc
Whinge Jones was on good form... even gave away a penalty in front of the posts and still claimed innocence Wales need to drop him and Biggar who did nothing.
552
29/11/2020 14:39:53 0 0
bbc
Someone had to
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28/11/2020 21:10:10 6 3
bbc
England tight 5 streets ahead of Wales and now the back row is superior. Luckily for Wales, OF left his kicking boots at home.

LRZ looks class and has ended North's career. Wales backs need a better pack but the talent coming through means they have a tough few years ahead....
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28/11/2020 21:02:35 29 11
bbc
I'm an England fan but if the game continues like this the whole game will die. In 80 mins we had less than 2 of back play. Rugby is about spaces not faces, swerves, sidesteps and dummies not putting your face up someones backside or trying NOT to have the ball.
76
28/11/2020 21:11:25 8 0
bbc
I don't think the rule changes have helped.... Lions will be interesting to see where we are against the power of the Boks
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28/11/2020 22:11:13 2 3
bbc
There’s nothing on show this autumn that will bother the Boks..... Faf deKlerk is here, watching this rubbish and no doubt reporting his observations back to home....
77
28/11/2020 21:11:28 18 0
bbc
Rule changes were made to encourage attacking teams to recycle ball quicker, but it seems to have passed by those making the rules that it also encourages the defending teams to slow that same recycling. Problems are:
1) it’s easier to slow it down than speed it up &
2) even when it’s quicker, it’s more likely, eventually, mistakes occur

It’s too heavily weighted to defense & killing the game
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29/11/2020 06:02:37 3 0
bbc
It is entirely reasonable that every time a tackle is made or a breakdown occurs that there should be a contest for possession - that is a fundamental part of the game. Recent law changes have attempted to make that contest more open, but it will always be a trial of strength and therefore may take a moment to resolve. If you want uncontested possession, go and watch American football.
48
28/11/2020 20:45:18 7 0
bbc
Do you know what Jones record is? You dont think that's impressive? Jeez what do you want?!
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Bob
28/11/2020 21:11:40 2 0
bbc
Pivac obviously...
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28/11/2020 21:23:07 2 6
bbc
Was a Snorefest..........running around like.....??
80
28/11/2020 21:28:35 8 20
bbc
As a neutral I didn't thing Wales did enough to win - but England def helped by some poor decisions (or non decisions) from French ref and TMO assistants. England should have had at least two yellow cards - with one possibly a red. And some of the scrum decisions awarded to England were just baffling.
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28/11/2020 22:09:33 3 3
bbc
TMO ? If viewers at home could see Genge headbutting what was the TMO doing..... reading texts from Eddie probably
125
28/11/2020 22:24:12 1 0
bbc
What cards?!
159
28/11/2020 23:36:43 3 1
bbc
As a neutral? Come on now. There was a knock on for Wales' try and the deliberate knock on by Dee which should've been a yellow. Daly tackle on Adams fine. Although we all know you're peddling your usual anti-English rhetoric.
81
28/11/2020 21:31:23 28 3
bbc
Beating Wales by that score in their own back yard when not playing particularly well is something we would have taken on many previous occasions. Perspective?
96
28/11/2020 21:59:12 8 2
bbc
Perspective doesn't come into it.
Good win well done.
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28/11/2020 22:05:41 5 4
bbc
50/50.... Wales have 10 players missing..... Eddie is stifling England.... with that pack the English backs should run riot and score tries for fun.... instead it’s kick after kick and it’s boring.... Warrenball if others play that way....
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EH
29/11/2020 00:46:04 3 6
bbc
I don’t know. I would have taken it, but my perspective has been swayed. Check out Walesonline. Genge nutted someone, Daley should have had a straight red, someone swore at Bigger and the ref was paid off
by the Twickenham suits.
Add up all that and I’m now not so sure we deserved it.
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29/11/2020 06:37:56 1 0
bbc
It's a 4 year development cycle for all teams england are in a good place as a young squad. Only issue maybe scrum half on the age profile. Wales are transitioning in a bigger way due to the age profile. For example will AWJ last? Botham looks good.... and parks is topping up his pension in japan. England France cant wait....
282
29/11/2020 06:57:02 1 1
bbc
I agree. Never thought I'd be disinterested in Eng beating Wales in Wales. Maybe shows how bad Wales have become.
82
28/11/2020 21:34:52 16 1
bbc
Bloody hell that Louis Rees Zammit is quick!
104
28/11/2020 22:03:56 5 8
bbc
Best wing at Gloucester they say...... don’t know about Thoreley as Eddie let’s him rot on the vine..... the old fella May was good v Ireland but 79th minute today was tackled by AWJ..... May must be slowing down with age.... or AWJ still has a great engine....
110
28/11/2020 22:11:49 4 1
bbc
Not that quick Farrell caught him once!
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Ian
28/11/2020 22:19:27 2 0
bbc
A bolter for the lions I’d say . He will be great on hard grounds
280
29/11/2020 06:54:42 0 0
bbc
But not quick enough it would seem.
292
29/11/2020 07:17:25 1 0
bbc
Have seen him plenty of times in 2019 at Kingsholm... outstanding.
83
28/11/2020 21:38:12 15 1
bbc
Like Roman as ref, leaves a bit of grey area but he did miss tackle in air and neck/seatbelt take but it didn't change the result. England really Strong across the pitch and was expecting a tw*ting. Defence was better but we need to get over again line like England were able to do.
260
29/11/2020 06:27:21 23 2
bbc
Law 9.17 "A player must not tackle, charge, pull, push or grasp an opponent whose feet are off the ground". Watch the footage, match clock around 13' 43". Biggar falls onto Underhill who, unable to move out of the way, stands still and makes no movement, but breaks Biggar's fall. There was no foul play. It turns out, unsurprisingly, that the referee knows the laws better than you do.
29
28/11/2020 20:13:52 2 6
bbc
???????????????????????????????????? yeah ????????????
84
28/11/2020 21:43:38 1 0
bbc
Wales are awful
48
28/11/2020 20:45:18 7 0
bbc
Do you know what Jones record is? You dont think that's impressive? Jeez what do you want?!
85
28/11/2020 21:43:39 0 0
bbc
A RWC win and a 6N grand slam every year, please. Don’t you want that?
86
28/11/2020 21:46:00 5 14
bbc
That American boy Underhill is a good player.
88
28/11/2020 21:53:50 17 3
bbc
Dad was stationed in Ohio with the RAF, hardly makes him American, try a little harder.
126
28/11/2020 22:24:57 2 0
bbc
About as American as Samson Lee
144
28/11/2020 23:12:46 1 2
bbc
Not good enough for the NFL or Welsh rugby so had to settle for playing for England.
155
28/11/2020 23:34:10 1 0
bbc
The American boy with English parents.
87
28/11/2020 21:52:36 21 10
bbc
The Welsh team all afternoon were squealing to the referee about every decision he gave against Wales. If Biggar was taken out, then the Welsh try was a definite knock on . Swings and roundabouts. Farrell missed 3 easy kicks and England were awesome going forward and in defence. Sampson Lee was like a kiddies rag doll useless. England left 40 points out there unscored. Wales are a tier 2 side !
91
28/11/2020 21:57:27 10 18
bbc
England were better - but if that's the best they can do against a developing Welsh team that is missing 8 likely starters, I wouldn't so up your self.
93
28/11/2020 21:58:05 2 0
bbc
England deserved to win; looking forward to the 6 nations.
Would like to further discuss your comments, but won't be allowed to. Enjoy your win.
97
28/11/2020 22:00:52 1 5
bbc
Francis mentioned being headbutted but Poite marched him back 10.... no doubt Genge will be feted as a hero...... silly sausage
129
28/11/2020 22:36:11 2 2
bbc
What do you mean “ If Bigger was taken out”..... I’ve see red cards given for that.... Jeez get real
86
28/11/2020 21:46:00 5 14
bbc
That American boy Underhill is a good player.
88
28/11/2020 21:53:50 17 3
bbc
Dad was stationed in Ohio with the RAF, hardly makes him American, try a little harder.
69
28/11/2020 21:02:35 29 11
bbc
I'm an England fan but if the game continues like this the whole game will die. In 80 mins we had less than 2 of back play. Rugby is about spaces not faces, swerves, sidesteps and dummies not putting your face up someones backside or trying NOT to have the ball.
89
28/11/2020 21:55:59 4 4
bbc
you're right. Jones just wants forward domination and Farrell kicking, and when that doesn't work there's no plan B. Backs are just there to make up numbers. A team with good forwards and a playmaker 10 will smash us.
254
29/11/2020 06:10:45 2 0
bbc
You have a short memory. Recent internationals aside, England has in recent times shown plenty of attacking intent and frequently given the ball to the backs to have a go. Tight attritional rugby is sometimes necessary, there's no problem with that.
73
28/11/2020 21:09:00 6 3
bbc
I think I will go and watch league. Can anybody remember when a scrum did not end in a penalty, was it last year or the year before?
90
28/11/2020 21:56:12 6 0
bbc
It was today Chris, watch the match a second time.
87
28/11/2020 21:52:36 21 10
bbc
The Welsh team all afternoon were squealing to the referee about every decision he gave against Wales. If Biggar was taken out, then the Welsh try was a definite knock on . Swings and roundabouts. Farrell missed 3 easy kicks and England were awesome going forward and in defence. Sampson Lee was like a kiddies rag doll useless. England left 40 points out there unscored. Wales are a tier 2 side !
91
28/11/2020 21:57:27 10 18
bbc
England were better - but if that's the best they can do against a developing Welsh team that is missing 8 likely starters, I wouldn't so up your self.
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Dad
28/11/2020 23:33:31 1 1
bbc
Yawn, i think you mean a developing english team against a developing welsh team? BOTH sides are gearing up for the next world cup
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Al
29/11/2020 02:42:26 1 0
bbc
Those 8 didn’t do much to help in all the other defeats
92
28/11/2020 21:57:53 15 8
bbc
Never going to get a game when the ref is so inconsistent. Ignored the tackle in the air, ignored welsh front row bottling on english put in, wales got away with laying over ball in ruck (cant blame them if not pulled up). Both sides failed by inconsistent ref. Ford kicked poorly, so many welsh marks able to be called.
101
28/11/2020 22:02:16 10 2
bbc
Spot on comment. You sound as if you actually know the game (unlike so many who comment on here). ??
176
28/11/2020 23:49:17 0 0
bbc
Agreed. Poite had a shocker. Missed so many issues and unnecessarily overruled others.

Well done to England but they almost looked scared to go through simple recycling phases, instead kicking aimlessly. When the did recycle Wales looked really stretched.
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29/11/2020 06:36:03 3 1
bbc
There was no tackle in the air, Underhill stood still and Biggar fell on him, the ref's decision was quite correct. Poite was perfectly consistent, both in his application of offside (generous to defenders), his reffing of the scrums (the player who moves first is the one who causes the collapse), and his enforcement at the breakdown (allowed both sides a long time to release and roll away).
87
28/11/2020 21:52:36 21 10
bbc
The Welsh team all afternoon were squealing to the referee about every decision he gave against Wales. If Biggar was taken out, then the Welsh try was a definite knock on . Swings and roundabouts. Farrell missed 3 easy kicks and England were awesome going forward and in defence. Sampson Lee was like a kiddies rag doll useless. England left 40 points out there unscored. Wales are a tier 2 side !
93
28/11/2020 21:58:05 2 0
bbc
England deserved to win; looking forward to the 6 nations.
Would like to further discuss your comments, but won't be allowed to. Enjoy your win.
94
28/11/2020 21:58:25 7 1
bbc
I’d argue that England lacked ambition not precision. When you’re that dominant surely worth trying to play a bit more ball in hand.
95
28/11/2020 21:59:06 1 1
bbc
‘Lacked precision’

What in kicking, or box kicking, or just aimless kicking ?

Hopefully it’s a clever ruse and v France Eddie will let players pass and run in tries
81
28/11/2020 21:31:23 28 3
bbc
Beating Wales by that score in their own back yard when not playing particularly well is something we would have taken on many previous occasions. Perspective?
96
28/11/2020 21:59:12 8 2
bbc
Perspective doesn't come into it.
Good win well done.
87
28/11/2020 21:52:36 21 10
bbc
The Welsh team all afternoon were squealing to the referee about every decision he gave against Wales. If Biggar was taken out, then the Welsh try was a definite knock on . Swings and roundabouts. Farrell missed 3 easy kicks and England were awesome going forward and in defence. Sampson Lee was like a kiddies rag doll useless. England left 40 points out there unscored. Wales are a tier 2 side !
97
28/11/2020 22:00:52 1 5
bbc
Francis mentioned being headbutted but Poite marched him back 10.... no doubt Genge will be feted as a hero...... silly sausage
207
29/11/2020 00:55:08 0 0
bbc
Mentioned it, but wasn't, moaning to the ref doesn't help.... especially after starting a hand bags brawl. Which he did and then moaned about because he got caught..
68
28/11/2020 21:02:29 2 1
bbc
Made Wales look average. When they are utterly poo. Boring game.
98
28/11/2020 22:01:05 0 2
bbc
What a Guy- Fawkes, is it?
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29/11/2020 06:31:24 0 2
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Now there was a man with a plan. Unlike Eddie’s copy and paste team sheet.
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28/11/2020 20:24:13 7 38
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Sour grapes from Jones. England don’t win by a cricket score and it is entirety their fault, nothing to do with the Welsh performance. With the strength in depth and talent pool that England have, I think Jones’s record is not that impressive. Any decent top coach could run England.
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28/11/2020 22:01:19 6 0
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Shut up you nause, wales win you are the greatest side in the world, England win, they didn't win by enough because they have an advantage against the poor old little countries
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28/11/2020 20:47:37 49 11
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Jones wasn't even the best Welsh 2nd row
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28/11/2020 22:01:51 4 10
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Well, what knowledge you have.