Black Friday: Next, M&S and Wilko shun sales event
27/11/2020 | news | business | 559
Although Black Friday spending in the UK is set to soar in 2020, some brands won't be taking part.
I still don't know if I should be offended by the name of this day or not.

Maybe it could be changed to something a lot less problematic like 'Non-White Friday' or perhaps 'The Friday of Black Origin'?!
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I expect we'll be told we're not allowed to call it Friday at all, as it's offensive to the other days of the week.
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27/11/2020 10:28:02 4 3
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Not sure sales tags are racist. But I agree. Lets call it non-binary coloured Friday for safety.
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27/11/2020 10:28:12 3 3
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'Friday of Colour'?
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Why would you be offended? Do you get offended by other colours or days of the week?
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27/11/2020 10:27:36 1 5
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Etymology of terms like this is really interesting to read about, I recommend it, and you can start with "Black Friday". Or you can make an ignorant comment like this which tell us all more about your mode of thought than the term itself.
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27/11/2020 10:21:22 451 13
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Good! It’s unnecessary, made up American nonsense!

Plus most of the bargains aren’t bargains anyway!
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27/11/2020 10:22:34 120 175
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Christmas is made up as well...
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27/11/2020 10:48:16 6 41
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M&S is made up luxury brand, but selling actual crap, don't need them.
Yes, it's just another infection we've caught from the US. Removed
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27/11/2020 11:27:13 16 0
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I totally agree with you. Typical of this country that they copy Black Friday and elongate it to be a Black Friday Week - honestly? How does that 'name' even work? Does anyone else remember good old Boxing Day Sale/ New Year Sales? Agree with the stores who have not joined in this madness, that it is far better to keep all year value then a mad rush on one day/week to catch a Covid bug!
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On that note you could pull mothers n fathers day, trick or treat and a couple of the newest bank holidays - even the 1 planned for next year - BF is an opportunity if managed in a less caotic way.
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27/11/2020 12:15:13 3 0
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Agree and agree
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27/11/2020 12:18:09 10 1
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Thanksgiving was celebrated the first harvest by a group of illegal immigrants who landed from boats, appropriated land and started building on it and farming it.

Then then had lots of children, brought more boat people and waged physical and biological war against the indigenous people.

And called it the land of the Free and the home of the Brave, despite having killed most of the Braves.
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27/11/2020 12:37:50 5 0
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and can people just stop buying stuff for the sake of it because its Xmas , because its a sale etc...no-one needs this stuff and it would lessen the crowds .!!
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Many of the offerings are tat bought in specially for the sale.
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27/11/2020 12:57:15 2 0
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Just like Halloween & Proms
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If the price is reduced now - which was missed earlier by a shopper - who are you to deny them their purchase? It's a freed country is it not? Is freedom to do what you want not the core selling point of Brexit? We are Brits and I am free to buy whatever I want with my hard earned money during Black Friday. Roll on Singles Day sales next year, I say!
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27/11/2020 13:13:15 3 0
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Just like proms for teenagers, why did the UK adopt that too? 51st state
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27/11/2020 14:01:41 1 0
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Don't sweat the small stuff. It is just another type of sale event not unlike various others. You don't have to buy anything if you don't want to.
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27/11/2020 14:03:27 1 0
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So what if its American nonsense? If you don't like it, you don't have to buy from it son.
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27/11/2020 16:34:24 0 0
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I agree with this in principle, but the internet exists and consumers are not afraid of using it, regardless of where the deals are.
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Good! It’s unnecessary, made up American nonsense!

Plus most of the bargains aren’t bargains anyway!
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Christmas is made up as well...
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27/11/2020 10:26:01 72 8
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Christmas made up is a poor example. Most British people celebrate Christmas. Black Friday sales relates to the post American holiday sales that we don't celebrate. Therefore why have black Friday in the UK.
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27/11/2020 10:33:13 65 9
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Not really.

Christmas has been a part of our society for hundreds of years.

Black Friday, sadly, only a feature of the last few. Hopefully it’s popularity is on the wane.
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27/11/2020 10:37:27 27 5
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True but you could say the same for any event. They're all made up by a group or an individual. It doesn't make them any more or less valid.
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27/11/2020 10:56:22 16 2
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That's bollards, Santa told me.....
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27/11/2020 11:16:36 15 0
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Of course, but Christmas has been celebrated in Britain for some time, Thanksgiving, and therefore Black Friday, not so much...
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Best reply ever!
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27/11/2020 11:50:39 7 2
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Christmas is a celebration of the Winter Solstice, which absolutely is not made up. It happened when the Romans introduced it, and it happens now.
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27/11/2020 12:23:48 5 1
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What ? Christmas is made up....................... Oh FFS, what else is going to be ruined for me this year.....?
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27/11/2020 13:14:18 2 1
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I hope you aren't being a Christianophobe. That would be a hate crime.
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27/11/2020 13:26:09 3 0
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Christmas has been celebrated in one form or another here for thousands of years - it is a pagan festival 'stolen' by the pesky Christians.
I'm going to enjoy it :-)
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Seems people disagree with you....Incredible!!
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The best way to save money on Black Friday (and in general) is to resist marketing ploys and not buy anything one doesn’t really need.
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I saved an absolute fortune last Black Friday.
I didn't buy anything...
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27/11/2020 10:32:39 15 1
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Agreed, but don't buy anything at this time that's not an absolute necessity. That way you can take advantage of the lower prices that will follow when the Black Friday increases are reversed.
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27/11/2020 10:40:04 16 1
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Exactly. When I want to buy something usually I wait and see if I still feel it would be useful in a few days time before committing. Black Friday is designed to eliminate any caution by using the fear of missing out as a motivating factor. I won't be looking at any sales this year.
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27/11/2020 10:47:36 19 1
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A sound bar I have been after for ages is being promoted as a Black Friday deal by major retailers today. They are showing the discount as 25% off the RRP, but it has been widely available at that lower price for months in loads of places.

Absolute con.
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27/11/2020 11:25:12 7 0
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I agree black friday is a rip off. I bought my unnecessary xmas gifts in the 'grey thursday' sale leading up to 'black friday'.
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27/11/2020 10:24:21 90 4
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More retailers should boycott it frankly. The deals are not that great, and given that it doesn't fall on a holiday here, it doesn't make so much sense. We should stick to our traditional Boxing Day or January sales and spread the pre-Xmas load a bit more evenly.
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Which are also a rip off!
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27/11/2020 13:36:42 0 0
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You do realise that most retailers import loads of cheap tat just to sell to the mugs that love the Boxing Day and January sales? Couldn't think of a worse place to be during the holidays!
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27/11/2020 10:24:33 3 17
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You reap what you sow, and you all happily sowed it.
You all own this devastation.
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27/11/2020 10:53:06 4 1
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Who are "you all" and how exactly did "you all" sow it? What "devastation" are you talking about? You really must define your terms.
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27/11/2020 10:24:42 7 3
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Why does the UK insist on a whole week of BF deals? In 2 weeks times it will be "Cyber Monday", which was initially just the busiest day of the year to buy things online but is now another chance for a sale and on 26 Dec it will be Boxing Day sales.
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Good news. Actions like this may stop people acting like lemmings.
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27/11/2020 11:09:37 25 1
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Interesting analogy as lemmings throwing themselves off cliffs was also a made up event! :)
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Christmas is made up as well...
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27/11/2020 10:26:01 72 8
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Christmas made up is a poor example. Most British people celebrate Christmas. Black Friday sales relates to the post American holiday sales that we don't celebrate. Therefore why have black Friday in the UK.
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27/11/2020 10:32:04 13 42
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Why not have Black Friday in the UK just because it originated in another country? Christmas celebrates something that happened in another country 2000 years ago.
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27/11/2020 12:00:23 6 5
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I do not celebrate "Christ Mas" rather Yuletide and Midwinter.
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I've been watching a few items I've been after on retailers' websites I use frequently and for the last couple of months they've steadily crept up.

Today they're back to the same price they started at and marked down as a Black Friday deal.

Plenty mugs who will fall for it mind.
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27/11/2020 10:39:19 70 3
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Retail pyschology is good isn't it. The Supermarkets do this all the time. For example track the price cycles on instant coffee and dishwasher tabs.
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27/11/2020 10:56:51 5 1
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Some slick marketing with a fancy name attached will do that...
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I've always wanted to do that with kitchen companies ...keep a book on the prices. The amount of different offers they conjure up within the year (free fitting/ free electrical items/ % of cabinets) makes you wonder when are you getting the cheapest deal?
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true, nothing new though. i worked in a shop over 15 years ago. item of clothing went up by £5 then was reduced by £5 two weeks later as a special offer.
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27/11/2020 10:26:28 12 16
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Black Friday Matters.
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Good for M&S et al, however it is a matter of choice and no-one is forced to buy.

Most Black Friday deals are not as they seem. I will therefore just purchase what I need when I need it at the best price I can at that time.
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27/11/2020 13:47:33 17 0
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Black Friday - definition:

A chance to panic buy something you don't really need or want, at a price which is promoted as exceptional but is usually an illusion.

or:

An expression which encapsulates consumer gullibility
I still don't know if I should be offended by the name of this day or not.

Maybe it could be changed to something a lot less problematic like 'Non-White Friday' or perhaps 'The Friday of Black Origin'?!
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I expect we'll be told we're not allowed to call it Friday at all, as it's offensive to the other days of the week.
I still don't know if I should be offended by the name of this day or not.

Maybe it could be changed to something a lot less problematic like 'Non-White Friday' or perhaps 'The Friday of Black Origin'?!
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27/11/2020 10:28:02 4 3
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Not sure sales tags are racist. But I agree. Lets call it non-binary coloured Friday for safety.
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Isn't this cultural appropriation?
I still don't know if I should be offended by the name of this day or not.

Maybe it could be changed to something a lot less problematic like 'Non-White Friday' or perhaps 'The Friday of Black Origin'?!
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'Friday of Colour'?
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The shame is that Black Friday becomes seen as the day(s) when bargain prices are expected without question. So in effect retailers only have to participate in the concept and don't really have to offer cheaper prices at all.

Forget about hunting for bargains - if there's something you want or need (at any time) and the price is acceptable then buy it - otherwise, don't.
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As a white male I won't be participating ... surely the name itself indicates that the sales only apply to the BAME population ?

Perhaps the name could be changed to 'complete rip off Friday with no real bargains' ?

And yes, this is an attempt at sarcasm ... I do hope nobody is offended, I wouldn't like to get cancelled before Xmas.
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On a slightly more real not, also being a white male, most of the models advertising the goods on offer suggest that we have had a really big change in demographics that I have not noticed.
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27/11/2020 11:28:27 34 7
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Be careful posting anything uncomfortably close to the truth, joke or not. The Beeb won't like it. Take it from one who knows
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Quite. According to Tesco F&F clothing 8 feet high advertising posters Scotland is exclusively non-white.
That’s the most stupid uneducated comment I’ve ever heard. Ludicrous Removed
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Getting cancelled by the BBC is a pleasure- It helps illustrate how woke and leftie their agenda is.
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Imagine living such a sheltered life that seeing brown people on advertising feels like oppression.
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27/11/2020 22:10:36 0 1
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You might be joking but I’ve seen racists type pull up the same “joke”.

The “BLACK” in Black Friday has nothing to do with race but a sales event to help companies get back in to the “black ink” before the end of the year. (Red is loss , black is profit or break even)
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the deals aint that great , infact i reckon come the new year they will be even better when they cant sell the BF deals now
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27/11/2020 10:32:26 10 1
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Right, sale stuff is things that didn't sell well before. Just another event for the sheep!
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Everywhere I've been for the past 10 days I've had Black Friday shoved down my throat. I really couldn't give a tinkers cuss about it.
I'll be so glad when it goes away.
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Same, not purchased anything and having a green Christmas this year - the kids are pro-environment so have to go along with it and get less crap lol
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The best way to save money on Black Friday (and in general) is to resist marketing ploys and not buy anything one doesn’t really need.
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I saved an absolute fortune last Black Friday.
I didn't buy anything...
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I did the same! Not spending anything on this Christmas either!!
I still don't know if I should be offended by the name of this day or not.

Maybe it could be changed to something a lot less problematic like 'Non-White Friday' or perhaps 'The Friday of Black Origin'?!
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Why would you be offended? Do you get offended by other colours or days of the week?
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You'd never hear the end of it if it was White Friday Sales!.... Removed
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AFM - All Fridays Matter
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I thought people didn't have any money anymore!!!
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Insanity Personified
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Everywhere I've been for the past 10 days I've had Black Friday shoved down my throat. I really couldn't give a tinkers cuss about it.
I'll be so glad when it goes away.

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Nope : as with the regular HYSers, you'll just move on to the next whineathon.....................
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***
He whined!
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It is all a big con, trying to make us all part with money for things we might not even need at this moment in time either. Good to hear that some shops are not taking part. Like many people, if I need something, I'll buy it when I need it, not just because it's Black Friday.
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27/11/2020 10:29:25 17 2
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the deals aint that great , infact i reckon come the new year they will be even better when they cant sell the BF deals now
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27/11/2020 10:32:26 10 1
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Right, sale stuff is things that didn't sell well before. Just another event for the sheep!
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The best way to save money on Black Friday (and in general) is to resist marketing ploys and not buy anything one doesn’t really need.
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27/11/2020 10:32:39 15 1
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Agreed, but don't buy anything at this time that's not an absolute necessity. That way you can take advantage of the lower prices that will follow when the Black Friday increases are reversed.
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Christmas is made up as well...
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27/11/2020 10:33:13 65 9
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Not really.

Christmas has been a part of our society for hundreds of years.

Black Friday, sadly, only a feature of the last few. Hopefully it’s popularity is on the wane.
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But if both are made up, does it matter how long something has been done as to whether its a good idea?

The only point after that is hostility towards American things, which strikes me as somewhat xenophobic.
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Give Black Friday another 20 years and it weill be as much a part of tradition as tghe made up Christmas is.
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27/11/2020 13:33:13 1 0
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It was Saturnalia until the Christians found it was popular with the heathens...........?
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27/11/2020 10:33:44 240 6
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Black Friday epitomises the very worst in consumer addiction - the way it tags itself on to and corrupts festivals like Thanksgiving and Christmas is pernicious - I think that whole US binge culture deeply immature and unpleasant - so hats off to UK shops that ignore it!
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27/11/2020 11:32:00 83 9
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Indeed, and I hate the name as well.
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27/11/2020 10:34:02 3 11
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BFM - BLACK FRIDAYS MATTER!!! ;)
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Good for them!

It's all false sales trying to flog stick taking up space in their warehouse's.
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In two weeks like last year prices will be even lower than the so called black Friday deals - feel sorry for some retailers thanks to HMG and the covid19 lies (yes it exists but they are using it as an excuse to people control) but sales will have to go ahead in a panic more so this year than last
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Not surprised. It's a ruse anyway and these guys, like others, have already taken a big hit.
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27/11/2020 10:34:57 94 9
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Anyone in the UK that believes in the Black Friday "sales" is as gullible as those in the US that think Trump won the election.
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Or that the wrestling is real, or that man didn't land on the moon!
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and boy are US people gullible!
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Retail is about bringing people into (or onto) the site, & that is half the battle. The other half is getting them to buy something. The former creates the need for continuous novelty - and BF is just another gimmick for that. But so many people get tokens or money for gifts nowadays I think that, for many classes of goods, the best deals come after Christmas - as perhaps does peak spend?
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AFM - All Fridays Matter
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Most sensible people see through Black Friday deals now and will not be taken in by them
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27/11/2020 10:57:49 7 3
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aye, but not all retails are as scummy. Clarks actually did 50% discounts which were the same prices if it was any other sales they do.
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Fair price not fake deals!
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I can't stop thinking of a certain US president when I read that.
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I love aldi and lidl!
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Great - I mean totally irrelevant, but good for you.
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They are good value shops but you're helping to boost the German economy even more. Try Tesco, it's very good too and the UK economy is going to need all the help it can get in the next few years.
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Are we allowed to call it black Friday, should it not be the opposite to white Friday??
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27/11/2020 10:56:03 2 3
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kkk is calling you.

If you're too dumb, you might as well start arguing with your phone screen for being black when it's turned off you uneducated swine.
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27/11/2020 10:37:23 64 3
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Black friday was created to exploit to American excess and hyper-consumerism...hopefully we do not fall down the same rabbit hole....
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We already have, but are just realising it
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Christmas is made up as well...
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27/11/2020 10:37:27 27 5
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True but you could say the same for any event. They're all made up by a group or an individual. It doesn't make them any more or less valid.
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27/11/2020 11:33:22 14 3
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Christmas as a holiday stems from the re-birth of the sun (adopted by Christians for ease because Pagans already worshipped it.)

We didn't make up the solstice. That happens whether you like it or not.
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Black Friday is an informal name for the Friday following Thanksgiving Day in the United States, which is celebrated on the fourth Thursday of November.
The UK does not celebrate 'Thanks giving'. So it is invalid over here. It's also a con, sales ploy, and a gimmick.
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27/11/2020 10:37:49 191 5
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Most Black Friday deals are bogus especially online. I'd be happy to see us step back from this Americanisation of our country.
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27/11/2020 10:41:06 63 8
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We all would. LIttle chance of that now though.
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27/11/2020 10:53:15 5 6
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I hope so too, but doesn't look like we will at all because britian seems to fall for the same amarican propaganda/political tactics.

Quite literally. they call corbyn an anti semite for critisizing isreal and people fell for it.

They tried calling bernie sanders anti-semite but luckily failed because a USA were too racist/dumb because "bernie cant be, he's a jew"
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But this is Airstrip 1 - we should be enmbracing them.
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We're all americans we just don't know it yet
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27/11/2020 10:38:22 21 7
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Stop following America with there ways make Britain GREAT again
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27/11/2020 10:49:59 7 13
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"stop following americas ways"
but you also say
"make britain great again"
?????
You'll probally vote for ukip or another conservative i bet.
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27/11/2020 10:52:45 3 8
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Nothing to do with the USA, it's homegrown voting knuckledraggers that that have destroyed Britain.
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*their
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Looking at price trackers (e.g. Camera Kit, Audio, Video etc) - best price to get stuff is start/mid summer holidays. Often better than "Black Friday".

All about the timing and will power.
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Ex President very soon.
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27/11/2020 10:38:33 14 7
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If a Pandemic & a unsecure Job market cannot force you to save money, then don't cry why the Government doesn't help feed your kids, dogs, cats, lizards and the rest of the ark.
If not buying durin major discount, then don't cry when you can't feed you're kids/pets.

You moron, you do realise baby food/assortments go on discount too? or do you only pay attention to luxery?
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Not really.

Christmas has been a part of our society for hundreds of years.

Black Friday, sadly, only a feature of the last few. Hopefully it’s popularity is on the wane.
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But if both are made up, does it matter how long something has been done as to whether its a good idea?

The only point after that is hostility towards American things, which strikes me as somewhat xenophobic.
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27/11/2020 10:41:58 46 6
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Have you checked out Americans lately? Why would we jump on their bandwagons? Sad when their politics looks worse than ours.
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Xenophobic?

No, sorry in this case it’s a statement of fact. Black Friday is American. And in my opinion it is nonsense.

Nice attempt at misrepresentation and distortion of my point, though.
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Agreed, anti-American comments relating to Black Friday will more than likely be made by those who voted Brexit.
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I've been watching a few items I've been after on retailers' websites I use frequently and for the last couple of months they've steadily crept up.

Today they're back to the same price they started at and marked down as a Black Friday deal.

Plenty mugs who will fall for it mind.
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27/11/2020 10:39:19 70 3
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Retail pyschology is good isn't it. The Supermarkets do this all the time. For example track the price cycles on instant coffee and dishwasher tabs.
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True, but people actually use dishwasher tabs and instant coffee frequently at least so it's not a totally wasted purchase. People buying an £80 set of Bose Speakers for no-reason apart from it being "50% off" is a different matter.
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Not pyschology, just plain old cheating.
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Black friday came to the UK when US-based online retailers extended it to their UK sites. Bricks and mortar shops followed suit in order to compete.

This year, many bricks and mortar shops are closed due to the lockdown. There is no point in them joining in.

I hope they can recover some sort of normality when the lockdown ends.
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27/11/2020 10:23:40 297 3
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The best way to save money on Black Friday (and in general) is to resist marketing ploys and not buy anything one doesn’t really need.
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27/11/2020 10:40:04 16 1
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Exactly. When I want to buy something usually I wait and see if I still feel it would be useful in a few days time before committing. Black Friday is designed to eliminate any caution by using the fear of missing out as a motivating factor. I won't be looking at any sales this year.
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27/11/2020 10:40:13 18 5
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Why should they have massive sales. They already can’t compete with online retailers because the monoliths like Amazon thrive on having next to no overheads, paying almost no tax and exploiting all and any loopholes in the law. The High St retailers are playing by the rules whilst the on-liners are not.
When there isn’t a High St any more watch those on-line prices SURGE! Use it or lose it.
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27/11/2020 10:48:44 1 13
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Don't be silly - the internet is worldwide and new sellers will come along; indeed they already do. I have bought loads of things on the internet, very few from Amazon. If you don't like Amazon don't use it and if you think they don't pay "enough" tax, whatever that means, then lobby the government about it.

As for the High Street - who needs it?
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27/11/2020 11:33:55 4 0
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I feel for high street shops. They can't compete on price, they can't compete on choice and they don't compete on convenience, or at least my local ones don't. If I want to shop with them it is strictly 9am to 5pm so I need to take time off work to shopt with them. A few of them do compete on quality or service and I will make an effort to use them, the others unfortunately lose out.
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27/11/2020 13:22:16 1 0
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Every Christmas ( except this year ) and loved ones birthdays I go seek the boutique type shops with crafted items . This is where a high street can thrive - specialisation . I have noticed that some towns have a "Clone" area , but a bit further walk out reveals an Old Town type area mostly of art and craft - Muses ! Followed by purchases that are timeless.
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27/11/2020 10:29:11 133 18
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As a white male I won't be participating ... surely the name itself indicates that the sales only apply to the BAME population ?

Perhaps the name could be changed to 'complete rip off Friday with no real bargains' ?

And yes, this is an attempt at sarcasm ... I do hope nobody is offended, I wouldn't like to get cancelled before Xmas.
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27/11/2020 10:40:36 104 10
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On a slightly more real not, also being a white male, most of the models advertising the goods on offer suggest that we have had a really big change in demographics that I have not noticed.
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27/11/2020 11:06:27 10 45
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Does that worry you because they are better looking than you? Or is it some other reason I wonder........?
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27/11/2020 12:49:52 5 1
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If the models were meant to represent the larger demographic you might have a point. Instead they are just a construct of some marketing droid's idea of what we like to see. The models are just fluff in the bellybutton of life. Attaching any kind of importance to them just validates their existence. Best ignored and they might go away!
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27/11/2020 13:54:44 4 2
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I said more or less the same thing on another forum and people went ballistic. It seems keen observation is also a no-no on the woke list.
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27/11/2020 14:10:38 3 1
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Yes agree we now seem to be a minority group according to most advertising.
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27/11/2020 10:37:49 191 5
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Most Black Friday deals are bogus especially online. I'd be happy to see us step back from this Americanisation of our country.
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27/11/2020 10:41:06 63 8
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We all would. LIttle chance of that now though.
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27/11/2020 10:41:06 72 2
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I'm not going to fall for any of this 2 for 1 ripoff nonsense i'll wait for the 50% off.
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27/11/2020 11:50:02 7 1
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Strangely people will actually go that way ??
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27/11/2020 12:56:19 1 0
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Went in a shop earlier and something was being sold at "4 for £1 or 2 for 80p" I'd love to see how much profit that shop has made by the end of Black Friday. Plonkers
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27/11/2020 10:41:24 9 7
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Government should have banned Black Friday this year - or discouraged it, channelling all those shoppers, on payday weekend onto public transport and the high streets all on ONE day. Making prices lower for the months ahead is what retailers should focus on, not like for like sales compared to this time last year
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27/11/2020 10:44:25 1 4
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I did all of mine via delivery/online.
Shoildnt need to go outside in this day and age in my opinion ?????
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27/11/2020 10:38:35 11 67
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But if both are made up, does it matter how long something has been done as to whether its a good idea?

The only point after that is hostility towards American things, which strikes me as somewhat xenophobic.
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27/11/2020 10:41:58 46 6
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Have you checked out Americans lately? Why would we jump on their bandwagons? Sad when their politics looks worse than ours.
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27/11/2020 10:42:14 59 4
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What they mean is our prices today are the same as they were in Aug. Black Friday = lying Friday !
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27/11/2020 10:31:39 3 9
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Insanity Personified
10:29
Everywhere I've been for the past 10 days I've had Black Friday shoved down my throat. I really couldn't give a tinkers cuss about it.
I'll be so glad when it goes away.

**

Nope : as with the regular HYSers, you'll just move on to the next whineathon.....................
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27/11/2020 10:42:53 4 1
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***
He whined!
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27/11/2020 10:43:06 69 5
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This is great news! Black Friday like some other things is an American sale that we simply do not need in the UK! We are not American and we do not need to be!
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27/11/2020 13:09:49 2 5
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I saved a tonne of money so I vote for Black Friday next year!
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27/11/2020 10:23:32 18 4
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BF is an import we could well do without. Never seen anything important that I’d want any cheaper than usual prices.

BF = junk for the gullible
I still don't know if I should be offended by the name of this day or not.

Maybe it could be changed to something a lot less problematic like 'Non-White Friday' or perhaps 'The Friday of Black Origin'?!
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27/11/2020 10:27:36 1 5
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Etymology of terms like this is really interesting to read about, I recommend it, and you can start with "Black Friday". Or you can make an ignorant comment like this which tell us all more about your mode of thought than the term itself.
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27/11/2020 10:41:24 9 7
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Government should have banned Black Friday this year - or discouraged it, channelling all those shoppers, on payday weekend onto public transport and the high streets all on ONE day. Making prices lower for the months ahead is what retailers should focus on, not like for like sales compared to this time last year
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27/11/2020 10:44:25 1 4
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I did all of mine via delivery/online.
Shoildnt need to go outside in this day and age in my opinion ?????
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27/11/2020 10:46:14 2 4
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Black Friday is rubbish to start with, its a chance for stores to clear off the extra stock or the lines no one wants... Wilko not taking part is not surprising either as their stock is always rubbish
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27/11/2020 10:47:17 1 8
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God forbid we import things from other countries into this one.
If people want to buy on black Friday so what? I for one enjoy spending my money online rather than giving it to "Karen" down the local High street
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27/11/2020 10:23:40 297 3
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The best way to save money on Black Friday (and in general) is to resist marketing ploys and not buy anything one doesn’t really need.
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27/11/2020 10:47:36 19 1
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A sound bar I have been after for ages is being promoted as a Black Friday deal by major retailers today. They are showing the discount as 25% off the RRP, but it has been widely available at that lower price for months in loads of places.

Absolute con.
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27/11/2020 10:47:39 4 11
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Black Fridays Matter!
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27/11/2020 10:56:06 2 1
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ALL Fridays matter.
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Col
27/11/2020 11:02:03 0 3
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LOL!
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27/11/2020 10:56:24 2 1
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Boring predictable comments don't matter.
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27/11/2020 10:38:33 14 7
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If a Pandemic & a unsecure Job market cannot force you to save money, then don't cry why the Government doesn't help feed your kids, dogs, cats, lizards and the rest of the ark.
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If not buying durin major discount, then don't cry when you can't feed you're kids/pets.

You moron, you do realise baby food/assortments go on discount too? or do you only pay attention to luxery?
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Your a bigger moron feeding your discounted baby food, Dont have them if you cant afford them Removed
If you're going to call people Morons - perhaps start with a spell checker ? Removed
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27/11/2020 10:47:42 43 1
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BF is biggest rip off since pay day lenders were invented ....
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27/11/2020 10:47:50 19 4
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While I'm happy to see some businesses putting an end to this imported American "Black Friday" garbage (a Friday that now lasts a month), can't help but wondering WHY did it take them so long to finally stop blindly following an American thang that has nothing to do with our nation!

Worst piece of American garbage ever to set foot on these shores (well except other than the time Trump visited)...
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27/11/2020 10:38:35 11 67
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But if both are made up, does it matter how long something has been done as to whether its a good idea?

The only point after that is hostility towards American things, which strikes me as somewhat xenophobic.
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27/11/2020 10:48:08 67 9
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Xenophobic?

No, sorry in this case it’s a statement of fact. Black Friday is American. And in my opinion it is nonsense.

Nice attempt at misrepresentation and distortion of my point, though.
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27/11/2020 11:15:50 26 1
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True. I also remember when Halloween was nothing special in this country, then commercial interests saw the amount of disposable rubbish that could be sold, and they with the help of the media, BBC included, promoted it. Often by programs aimed at children, which also talk about and campaign against pollution and over-use of plastics.
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27/11/2020 12:51:19 1 0
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Well said Thomas
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27/11/2020 10:21:22 451 13
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Good! It’s unnecessary, made up American nonsense!

Plus most of the bargains aren’t bargains anyway!
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27/11/2020 10:48:16 6 41
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M&S is made up luxury brand, but selling actual crap, don't need them.
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27/11/2020 11:03:55 5 6
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I used to like M & S but their food has gone downhill for sure!
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27/11/2020 11:46:21 6 1
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M&S is far from a made up brand n has been trading longer than BF - it sells the same stuff as everyone else at the same standards - to people that clearly dont number you.
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27/11/2020 13:52:20 0 1
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I strongly suspect M&S will not be with us much longer
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27/11/2020 10:48:32 1 1
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Ditch BF, ask uk if they want to keep shops in real world or move more online at decent all year round prices.

If it’s real world be prepared to cover higher price - if it’s online real customer protection rules, banks offering protected purchase accounts from bona fide online stores.
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27/11/2020 10:21:22 451 13
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Good! It’s unnecessary, made up American nonsense!

Plus most of the bargains aren’t bargains anyway!
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Yes, it's just another infection we've caught from the US. Removed
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27/11/2020 10:40:13 18 5
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Why should they have massive sales. They already can’t compete with online retailers because the monoliths like Amazon thrive on having next to no overheads, paying almost no tax and exploiting all and any loopholes in the law. The High St retailers are playing by the rules whilst the on-liners are not.
When there isn’t a High St any more watch those on-line prices SURGE! Use it or lose it.
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27/11/2020 10:48:44 1 13
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Don't be silly - the internet is worldwide and new sellers will come along; indeed they already do. I have bought loads of things on the internet, very few from Amazon. If you don't like Amazon don't use it and if you think they don't pay "enough" tax, whatever that means, then lobby the government about it.

As for the High Street - who needs it?
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27/11/2020 11:59:03 5 0
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Who needs it?
Your pension fund for a start.
Old people, people who want to try things out and get advice before they buy, people who need exercise away from their computer, lonely people, people who like to meet others and support local businesses and produce, people who are sick of white vans on their street day and night with their engines running, people who are sick of cheap Chinese tat...
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27/11/2020 13:42:09 0 0
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You can't lobby the government without having billions to bribe the corrupt buggers - just like Amazon and the oil firms do!
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27/11/2020 10:49:53 15 1
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Most Black Friday offers are a con, with the same products cheaper at other times of the year. It's a way for shops to clear discontinued models/old stock. Most people don't fall for it anymore which is why less and less shops are doing it.
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27/11/2020 10:38:22 21 7
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Stop following America with there ways make Britain GREAT again
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27/11/2020 10:49:59 7 13
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"stop following americas ways"
but you also say
"make britain great again"
?????
You'll probally vote for ukip or another conservative i bet.
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27/11/2020 10:51:45 6 2
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I have absolutely no interest in this - most "bargains" are not bargains anyway - i just wait and pick stuff up cheaper on Ebay when folk are bored with what they paid full price for or the family member sells their unwanted present on there.
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27/11/2020 10:26:01 72 8
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Christmas made up is a poor example. Most British people celebrate Christmas. Black Friday sales relates to the post American holiday sales that we don't celebrate. Therefore why have black Friday in the UK.
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27/11/2020 10:32:04 13 42
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Why not have Black Friday in the UK just because it originated in another country? Christmas celebrates something that happened in another country 2000 years ago.
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27/11/2020 10:56:33 18 10
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No it doesn't. "Christmas" as you call it really celebrates the winter solstice and the fact that in days to come we shall gradually have more light and eventually warmer weather. It is a very ancient festival stolen by Christians ("Thou shalt not steal") and wrongly attached to someone who may not even have lived at all, but if he did, was probably born in October or even Springtime.
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27/11/2020 11:21:05 22 0
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Black Friday is the equivalent of Boxing Day sales - comes after Thanksgiving. We don't celebrate that in the UK so Black Friday following it makes no sense here.
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27/11/2020 13:45:11 0 0
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Because we already import enough rubbish into this country from the USA. Lets import other, useful ideas, from other countries for a change
You'd never hear the end of it if it was White Friday Sales!.... Removed
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27/11/2020 10:29:11 133 18
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As a white male I won't be participating ... surely the name itself indicates that the sales only apply to the BAME population ?

Perhaps the name could be changed to 'complete rip off Friday with no real bargains' ?

And yes, this is an attempt at sarcasm ... I do hope nobody is offended, I wouldn't like to get cancelled before Xmas.
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27/11/2020 10:38:22 21 7
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Stop following America with there ways make Britain GREAT again
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27/11/2020 10:52:45 3 8
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Nothing to do with the USA, it's homegrown voting knuckledraggers that that have destroyed Britain.
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27/11/2020 10:52:54 3 3
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The decision was made for them in any case, because no one is buying.
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27/11/2020 10:52:59 20 1
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Black Friday on Amazon a complete rip off and breaking trading standards rules...

An item I was going to buy for my granddaughter has been priced at £109.99 for well over a month on Amazon...

Their fake "Black Friday Sale" arrives and the price GOES Up to £129.99 and falsely states it was previously £139.99...

Wonder why Amazon refuse to answer the questions I sent them about that !!!
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27/11/2020 10:24:33 3 17
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You reap what you sow, and you all happily sowed it.
You all own this devastation.
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27/11/2020 10:53:06 4 1
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Who are "you all" and how exactly did "you all" sow it? What "devastation" are you talking about? You really must define your terms.
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27/11/2020 10:37:49 191 5
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Most Black Friday deals are bogus especially online. I'd be happy to see us step back from this Americanisation of our country.
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27/11/2020 10:53:15 5 6
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I hope so too, but doesn't look like we will at all because britian seems to fall for the same amarican propaganda/political tactics.

Quite literally. they call corbyn an anti semite for critisizing isreal and people fell for it.

They tried calling bernie sanders anti-semite but luckily failed because a USA were too racist/dumb because "bernie cant be, he's a jew"
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27/11/2020 10:53:19 23 1
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How to make "bargains" look like bargains:

1) Inflate price of product for the minimum legal time required.

2) Only discount last years/generation of product, plenty of stock to clear..

3) Hire a bunch of people to give your product 5 stars review when really it's hot garbage.

4) Profit!!
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27/11/2020 10:54:38 10 1
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Black Friday: Next, M&S and Wilko shun sales event...A complete farce of a sale. Another American import that panics the consumer into thinking they are getting a good deal on rubbish they don't need. Yanks go home and take Black Friday with you.
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27/11/2020 10:54:39 9 1
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'Black Friday.....' another US import, primarily designed for physical retail shops to sell goods. Seeing non-essential retail shops should currently be closed, its not surprising that M&S et al are not interested. That other wonderful invention 'Cyber Monday' is for online sales......another chance to buy more tat you don't need at the same prices they were back in the summer....cynical moi...?
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27/11/2020 10:55:37 3 1
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In the US on Black Friday, in a lot, but not all stores, you get genuine great deals on hot products & things people want for one day only. Over here, Black Friday is just another sale, with the shops trying to get rid of old stock, with average reductions, which last for weeks. Don't get sucked in. There are a few deals to be had, just do some research before you buy.
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27/11/2020 10:55:39 15 2
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BF is a waste of time and as others have stated, imported American rubbish.
I note that in all this gloom and doom reporting by MSM nobody is reporting on how successful manufacturing and particularly engineering is having a boom time.
My company never closed, we are so busy we are taking on extra staff.
Come on UK support this great country.
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27/11/2020 10:56:02 5 1
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Nice to hear they are brave enough to be different and in the last few years I have scoured the company websites to try and find these claimed huge bargains only to find no real bargains at all just often the same deals available most of the time.
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27/11/2020 10:37:18 6 10
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Are we allowed to call it black Friday, should it not be the opposite to white Friday??
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27/11/2020 10:56:03 2 3
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kkk is calling you.

If you're too dumb, you might as well start arguing with your phone screen for being black when it's turned off you uneducated swine.
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27/11/2020 10:56:05 4 2
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I do not understand the logic of having black Friday in this country. In the US it happened when retailers cut prices after Thanksgiving which we don't celebrate here. Why are high street retailers joining in?
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27/11/2020 10:47:39 4 11
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Black Fridays Matter!
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27/11/2020 10:56:06 2 1
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ALL Fridays matter.
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27/11/2020 10:22:34 120 175
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Christmas is made up as well...
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27/11/2020 10:56:22 16 2
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That's bollards, Santa told me.....
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27/11/2020 10:32:04 13 42
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Why not have Black Friday in the UK just because it originated in another country? Christmas celebrates something that happened in another country 2000 years ago.
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27/11/2020 10:56:33 18 10
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No it doesn't. "Christmas" as you call it really celebrates the winter solstice and the fact that in days to come we shall gradually have more light and eventually warmer weather. It is a very ancient festival stolen by Christians ("Thou shalt not steal") and wrongly attached to someone who may not even have lived at all, but if he did, was probably born in October or even Springtime.
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27/11/2020 13:35:33 0 0
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Well said.......?
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27/11/2020 10:26:02 178 5
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I've been watching a few items I've been after on retailers' websites I use frequently and for the last couple of months they've steadily crept up.

Today they're back to the same price they started at and marked down as a Black Friday deal.

Plenty mugs who will fall for it mind.
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27/11/2020 10:56:51 5 1
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Some slick marketing with a fancy name attached will do that...
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27/11/2020 10:57:20 5 2
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Shop Local. Bezos has enough cash.
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MVP
27/11/2020 10:36:28 43 2
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Most sensible people see through Black Friday deals now and will not be taken in by them
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27/11/2020 10:57:49 7 3
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aye, but not all retails are as scummy. Clarks actually did 50% discounts which were the same prices if it was any other sales they do.
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27/11/2020 11:17:18 5 0
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So were Clarks doing a 'two shoes for the price of one' offer?