Universal Credit: Millions face losing £1,000 in benefits, campaigners warn
26/11/2020 | news | politics | 339
Campaigners urge Chancellor Rishi Sunak to keep a temporary Universal Credit increase in place.
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26/11/2020 15:35:11 17 12
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Misleading headline !
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26/11/2020 15:36:15 44 20
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That is that a 'temporary increase' means! At the end, things go back to normal. Not news is it.
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26/11/2020 19:16:22 4 4
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Will things be ‘normal’ by Easter. I’m glad that you have that confidence, please share why you feel this. BTW, it is news, especially for those affected.
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26/11/2020 15:38:34 67 28
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Many in receipt of Universal Credit are the working poor - at the very bottom of the pile & therefore most susceptible to having £20 a week taken from them. In addition, if you've lost your job through not fault of your own & have to rely on UC then the additional money is a lifeline.

There's been billions thrown at HS2, the MoD, refurbishing Parliament etc. It seems cruel to deny the poorest.
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26/11/2020 15:46:28 46 33
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For the government to have empathy with the “poor” it would need to have a soul, which was sold to the devil a very long time ago.

They voted against giving impoverished kids food over holidays during a pandemic. You don’t need to look any further.

Then again you lot voted for Tories and Brexit. Covid was a blip in the road.

Reap what you sow and deal with it.
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26/11/2020 19:48:40 2 2
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Cancelling HS2 - or any other Major Investment Project - won't make a single penny available for anything else. Such projects are not financed by the taxpayer, you need to check out how such projects are financed.
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26/11/2020 23:05:13 1 0
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If its good enough for the poor, its good enough for everyone.
I hope they stop this increase. Just because a load of middle class people have signed up.

Welcome to the bottom I say.
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27/11/2020 12:35:56 1 0
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Losing a job may not be a persons fault but it is their responsibility. I'd like a fair conversation about personal responsibility. why don't people broaden skills / train to be resilient to redundancy. Why don't people insure themselves etc. This is a perfectly reasonable question positioned without pre-judgement. If a person has done all they reasonably can fine, if not why should others pay?
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26/11/2020 15:44:02 69 24
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I feel really sorry for those who are genuinely looking for work and have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own. However, I have no sympathy for Career layabouts who have never done a days work in their lives and expect the tax payer to stump up for their lifestyle choices. The Welfare State was set up as a Safety Net, not a Lifestyle Choice. Get off your lazy butts and get a job
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26/11/2020 16:24:11 47 21
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Completely agree with this comment. The welfare state was a safety net. I am sick to the back teeth of people moaning and acting like the Govt owes them something when it is the hard working taxpayers that pick up the tab. It is not just financial implications but the attitude of these people that too affects the rest of society.
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26/11/2020 16:44:48 23 4
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"However, I have no sympathy for Career layabouts who have never done a days work in their lives and expect the tax payer to stump up for their lifestyle choices."

While I'm sure there are instances like this, I think they're the exception rather than the rule. The vast majority of benefits go to people who are in work.
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26/11/2020 16:46:16 6 5
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Unemployment is built into the system. If unemployment falls too low there is a danger of inflation spiralling out of control, at least in the short-term, so govts act against this. In the long-term the economy tends to its own equilibrium with a certain non-zero unemployment rate. The unemployed are sacrificed to benefit everyone else by maintaining economic stability.
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26/11/2020 16:54:25 5 7
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There's millions of jobs out there, just waiting to be filled in our booming economy that totally isn't going into a deeper recession, and none of the millions of people being laid off will be looking for a job, and their jobs will still be there really...

You know this, because for every vacancy offered at minimum wage, 100 people apply... proving there are 20m jobs right here, right now.
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26/11/2020 17:43:41 11 8
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I support everything you say. There are families with 3 generations who haven’t done an honest days work !EVER. They claim benefits ( after having 20 kids ) & sit on ARSE all day bleating about how hard done by they are. The rise was Temporary so when did Temporary become Permanent folks ???
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26/11/2020 20:05:15 6 2
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Just how many "Career layabouts" are there. Are you suggesting we cut down the whole tree just for the sake of a few bad apples?
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JHB
26/11/2020 23:38:45 2 2
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Where's your evidence that these people exist?
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27/11/2020 13:50:41 1 1
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Spot the Tory Bot Propaganda Machine at work deflecting from the topic and blaming the plebs for their own misery.

The comment is banal rubbish spreading the myth of millions of layabouts sitting on their backsides & ignoring the huge increase in unemployment due to CV19 & the Tory Government's mishandling of the crisis.

It's typical Tory Party policy of blaming plebs for problems of Tory making
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26/11/2020 15:38:34 67 28
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Many in receipt of Universal Credit are the working poor - at the very bottom of the pile & therefore most susceptible to having £20 a week taken from them. In addition, if you've lost your job through not fault of your own & have to rely on UC then the additional money is a lifeline.

There's been billions thrown at HS2, the MoD, refurbishing Parliament etc. It seems cruel to deny the poorest.
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26/11/2020 15:46:28 46 33
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For the government to have empathy with the “poor” it would need to have a soul, which was sold to the devil a very long time ago.

They voted against giving impoverished kids food over holidays during a pandemic. You don’t need to look any further.

Then again you lot voted for Tories and Brexit. Covid was a blip in the road.

Reap what you sow and deal with it.
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26/11/2020 15:48:07 11 2
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Please don't insult me by claiming I voted for the Tories and Brexit - I did neither. Thanks.
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26/11/2020 16:16:47 11 14
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Yawn. Many of the comments on this website are just anti-Tory rants. Yours is the same. Say something new.
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26/11/2020 16:56:56 6 13
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Just wish there was a party that actually did cut these things back not pay faux lip service to it. Pathetic freezes to grossly overpaid public sector, to excessive benefits. Created an 'entitled' to a rich lifestyle population, causing our economic decline. Your children you feed them. Food is very cheap. No excuses, no hand meals.
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26/11/2020 18:00:21 3 5
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It is not over yet, yes the grace period is over so the cap limit also comes back as well, means much more than £1000 a year, roughly + £250 a month as the cap on benefits takes effect from Jan I believe, Conservative rule no 2 cut benefits to the bone. 160,000 people having their benefit capped at the end of December, so many people, expect homelessness to go up in spring, incentive to get a job
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26/11/2020 18:17:25 3 5
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I supported Brexit as a means to free ourselves from the shackles of Europe telling us how to run our own country from Bressels.

I'll be clear i never voted for May or Bojo or the Tories, all i wanted is Brexit and expect to see the UK independent again but not isolated. Instead we got this horror car crash TV series going on with Bojo behind the wheel and laughing as he goes like it is GTA V.
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26/11/2020 19:20:45 8 7
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Those kids never recieved a single penny to feed them in the holidays when Liebour were in power. The hypocrisy of the Left.
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26/11/2020 15:46:28 46 33
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For the government to have empathy with the “poor” it would need to have a soul, which was sold to the devil a very long time ago.

They voted against giving impoverished kids food over holidays during a pandemic. You don’t need to look any further.

Then again you lot voted for Tories and Brexit. Covid was a blip in the road.

Reap what you sow and deal with it.
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26/11/2020 15:48:07 11 2
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Please don't insult me by claiming I voted for the Tories and Brexit - I did neither. Thanks.
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Bob
26/11/2020 15:52:40 16 20
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Outrageous headline & journalism!! Once the pandemic & Brexit are over I can see Boris taking the BBC down peg or two!! About time too!!
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26/11/2020 15:54:36 19 6
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Which part of "Six million households face a £1,000 cut to their benefits if a temporary increase to Universal Credit is not kept in place, new research claims." has upset your feelings?
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26/11/2020 15:56:48 8 3
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Why, they only report the news. It's Bozo and his cohorts that create the stories you don't like.
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26/11/2020 15:58:11 7 4
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Once BrExit is done and dusted and people realise that they have been lied to and that the only beneficieries of it were the rich; Boris had better watch his back. If this goes badly wrong the Tories will never be forgiven and nor were the fools that voted for economic suicide. Give it 4 years of pain and job losses and let's see who were the liars in the debate
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26/11/2020 16:03:19 4 3
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Outrageous comment!! Once the pandemic & Brexit are over I can see Bob being taken down a peg or two!! About time too!!
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26/11/2020 16:10:12 2 1
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Anything else in your crystal balls?
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26/11/2020 15:53:43 23 7
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Many Young People including care Leavers and other vulnerable adults who are not able to seek any type of employment due to past histories and personal circumstances rely heavily on this quite meagre amount and if this is removed next year it will have a severe impact socially

This government has wasted large amounts of public taxpayers monies to date and will continue to do so
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Bob
26/11/2020 15:52:40 16 20
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Outrageous headline & journalism!! Once the pandemic & Brexit are over I can see Boris taking the BBC down peg or two!! About time too!!
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26/11/2020 15:54:36 19 6
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Which part of "Six million households face a £1,000 cut to their benefits if a temporary increase to Universal Credit is not kept in place, new research claims." has upset your feelings?
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Bob
26/11/2020 15:58:44 5 9
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You answered your own question - the words TEMPORARY & CUT. It's not rocket science. The Bias Broadcasting Corporation going totally against its charter, yet again!!
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26/11/2020 16:12:39 2 2
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Definition of temporary just in case you were not aware
'lasting for only a limited period of time; not permanent'
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26/11/2020 16:14:32 3 4
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It is not a cut. The payments are reverting to what they were before. Inaccurate headline.
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26/11/2020 16:51:59 1 2
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The part where there is a pretence that a temporary gift not being handed out for free is 'taking' anything at all away from anyone that has been recieving a free temprary GIFT.
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Bob
26/11/2020 15:52:40 16 20
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Outrageous headline & journalism!! Once the pandemic & Brexit are over I can see Boris taking the BBC down peg or two!! About time too!!
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26/11/2020 15:56:48 8 3
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Why, they only report the news. It's Bozo and his cohorts that create the stories you don't like.
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26/11/2020 15:56:56 27 20
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Tories will only do something if it helps one of their rich chums
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26/11/2020 16:12:28 16 17
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Yawn. Identikit comment which could have been attached to almost any article.
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26/11/2020 16:29:20 7 4
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Its called a "Chumocracy"
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Bob
26/11/2020 15:52:40 16 20
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Outrageous headline & journalism!! Once the pandemic & Brexit are over I can see Boris taking the BBC down peg or two!! About time too!!
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26/11/2020 15:58:11 7 4
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Once BrExit is done and dusted and people realise that they have been lied to and that the only beneficieries of it were the rich; Boris had better watch his back. If this goes badly wrong the Tories will never be forgiven and nor were the fools that voted for economic suicide. Give it 4 years of pain and job losses and let's see who were the liars in the debate
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26/11/2020 15:54:36 19 6
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Which part of "Six million households face a £1,000 cut to their benefits if a temporary increase to Universal Credit is not kept in place, new research claims." has upset your feelings?
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Bob
26/11/2020 15:58:44 5 9
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You answered your own question - the words TEMPORARY & CUT. It's not rocket science. The Bias Broadcasting Corporation going totally against its charter, yet again!!
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26/11/2020 16:01:14 8 1
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It's clearly said TEMPORARY in the first paragraph - can you not read?
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26/11/2020 16:05:54 3 2
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Utter nonsense!
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Bob
26/11/2020 15:58:44 5 9
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You answered your own question - the words TEMPORARY & CUT. It's not rocket science. The Bias Broadcasting Corporation going totally against its charter, yet again!!
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26/11/2020 16:01:14 8 1
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It's clearly said TEMPORARY in the first paragraph - can you not read?
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26/11/2020 16:02:10 10 7
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Once again an article about where might not happen. What a waste of space.
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26/11/2020 16:09:40 3 2
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That's why you can never plan ahead....
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26/11/2020 16:15:33 2 2
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An asteroid fell on your granny's house yesterday. We knew it might happen but we didn't bother telling you because we know you only want to hear about things that have either already happened or definitely will happen. Sorry about your granny. Do you understand now? Quitlings pfff.
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DSA
26/11/2020 16:04:28 47 16
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The key word here is TEMPORARY, they are not losing benefit they are just reverting to what it was before they were given this short term bonus.
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26/11/2020 16:13:53 17 33
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So you're happy with the idea of this being taken away from them despite their situation not having changed, are you? Quitling.
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27/11/2020 17:28:29 0 0
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Exactly. You can see the problem in this country that if you give a temporary benefits, it will have to become permanent. You can only increase benefits and you can never reduce it even the country is totally broke.
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Bob
26/11/2020 15:52:40 16 20
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Outrageous headline & journalism!! Once the pandemic & Brexit are over I can see Boris taking the BBC down peg or two!! About time too!!
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26/11/2020 16:03:19 4 3
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Outrageous comment!! Once the pandemic & Brexit are over I can see Bob being taken down a peg or two!! About time too!!
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26/11/2020 16:46:43 0 0
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Who is Bob and what has he done?
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26/11/2020 16:02:10 10 7
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Once again an article about where might not happen. What a waste of space.
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26/11/2020 16:09:40 3 2
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That's why you can never plan ahead....
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Bob
26/11/2020 15:52:40 16 20
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Outrageous headline & journalism!! Once the pandemic & Brexit are over I can see Boris taking the BBC down peg or two!! About time too!!
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26/11/2020 16:10:12 2 1
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Anything else in your crystal balls?
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Bob
26/11/2020 15:58:44 5 9
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You answered your own question - the words TEMPORARY & CUT. It's not rocket science. The Bias Broadcasting Corporation going totally against its charter, yet again!!
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26/11/2020 16:05:54 3 2
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Utter nonsense!
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26/11/2020 15:56:56 27 20
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Tories will only do something if it helps one of their rich chums
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26/11/2020 16:12:28 16 17
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Yawn. Identikit comment which could have been attached to almost any article.
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26/11/2020 17:34:21 4 3
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That's because it's true.
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26/11/2020 15:54:36 19 6
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Which part of "Six million households face a £1,000 cut to their benefits if a temporary increase to Universal Credit is not kept in place, new research claims." has upset your feelings?
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26/11/2020 16:12:39 2 2
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Definition of temporary just in case you were not aware
'lasting for only a limited period of time; not permanent'
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26/11/2020 15:54:36 19 6
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Which part of "Six million households face a £1,000 cut to their benefits if a temporary increase to Universal Credit is not kept in place, new research claims." has upset your feelings?
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26/11/2020 16:14:32 3 4
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It is not a cut. The payments are reverting to what they were before. Inaccurate headline.
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26/11/2020 16:51:28 2 1
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Yawn.

We all understand English. Not all of us have a bilous attack when one perfectly intelligible word is substituted for another.

"Cut" is another word for "reduction", FYI. Without reference to the permanence or otherwise of the status quo ante. Ipso facto, duncum eres.
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26/11/2020 15:46:28 46 33
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For the government to have empathy with the “poor” it would need to have a soul, which was sold to the devil a very long time ago.

They voted against giving impoverished kids food over holidays during a pandemic. You don’t need to look any further.

Then again you lot voted for Tories and Brexit. Covid was a blip in the road.

Reap what you sow and deal with it.
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26/11/2020 16:16:47 11 14
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Yawn. Many of the comments on this website are just anti-Tory rants. Yours is the same. Say something new.
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26/11/2020 16:33:41 14 6
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Why are you so upset that people are criticising the government?
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DSA
26/11/2020 16:04:28 47 16
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The key word here is TEMPORARY, they are not losing benefit they are just reverting to what it was before they were given this short term bonus.
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26/11/2020 16:13:53 17 33
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So you're happy with the idea of this being taken away from them despite their situation not having changed, are you? Quitling.
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26/11/2020 16:28:45 13 6
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situation HAS changed, bojo &co are giving free school meals out of schoool time now, which is what this temp increase was supposed to cover
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26/11/2020 19:16:36 5 2
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The situation you refer to has changed and it is well acknowledged that people in general have less costs than when "normal life" as it has become known disappeared, less transport costs little or no meals or other entertainment to be paid for etc.

The genuine should be helped to have a reasonable existence but too many know how to be career scroungers, night clubs with bottled beer £6 and more
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27/11/2020 12:40:09 0 0
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It's not been taken away yet? It runs for 5 months more and will be reviewed in light of situation. I'm very happy with that especially as Chancellor will review before confirming. If you're suggesting this should continue without reference to Covid / Economic changes that's a different argument.
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27/11/2020 23:27:48 0 0
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I am
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26/11/2020 16:02:10 10 7
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Once again an article about where might not happen. What a waste of space.
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26/11/2020 16:15:33 2 2
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An asteroid fell on your granny's house yesterday. We knew it might happen but we didn't bother telling you because we know you only want to hear about things that have either already happened or definitely will happen. Sorry about your granny. Do you understand now? Quitlings pfff.
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26/11/2020 16:19:11 20 12
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If you want more: earn it. This was a temporary increase.
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26/11/2020 16:39:19 15 7
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Have you ever been made redundant through no fault of your own, Mr I'm Alright Jack?
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26/11/2020 16:40:42 4 0
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Basic economics: too many jobs tends to cause inflation to rapidly increase, at least in the short-term, and govts don't allow that. Poverty is built in to the system as economies require an optimum level of unemployment which is absolutely not zero.
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26/11/2020 16:45:10 9 1
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It is very easy to be on UC and in full time employment in a NLW job. My kids have left home but, before you say "don't have kids you cannot afford" my current job pays me approx 20% less than I was earning in 2010 and less than what I earned in 1989 - when my eldest (of two) was born. Two redundancies and a personal pride is "doing what it takes" created this. I am not alone in this situation.
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26/11/2020 16:53:33 3 1
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In an economy where there are plenty of jobs for workers to pick and choose this pushes up labour costs which tends to push up the price of goods and services and can, depedning on circumstances, cause a rapid rise in inflation. In the long-run the economy stabilises with a certain unemployment rate to prevent such instabilities, often assisted by govt, maintaining a certain unemployment level.
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26/11/2020 17:05:26 5 2
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Hmm? Did you read the bit where it said there will be another 2.6m unemployed? Obviously not.

Your level of ignorance is astounding. When did you last work, 1830?
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26/11/2020 16:19:54 21 17
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Here we go again: Tories as usual punishing the poorest in society. I'd been more impressed with Sunak if he had closed those 'it may be immoral, but it's not illegal' tax loop holes for the super-rich. But I guess that'd be too unpopular with Tory donors and hedge fund managers like JRM et al. But, you knew what you voted for and gave them a 80 seat majority. It really was 'the devil you know'.
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26/11/2020 16:26:56 11 13
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it was a temp increase to cover extra food for kids while schools were shut, but seeing as the tories have decided to cover the costs of scool meals out of school time then it's doing the right thing. Oh I forgot that 'some' of these scroungers think it's for themselves, but get real
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rr6
26/11/2020 16:24:06 41 20
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More BBC biased journalism again. The headline should be “Temporary benefit increase ends” rather than “millions face losing benefits”.
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26/11/2020 16:37:05 19 16
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The word "temporary" is literally in the first line of the article. Are you the type of person who only reads headlines?
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26/11/2020 16:43:31 3 5
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", campaigners warn", writes the BBC

"Looks like Agolf missed a trick ; you didn't even read the whole headline before banging your silly little drum", writes an anonymous poster
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rr6
26/11/2020 16:56:10 11 5
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For those who don’t think the exact wording of headlines matter, it is clear that you don’t understand journalism, marketing or psychology. The precise wording of headlines and the photos that accompany them can be very powerful. The BBC headlines are either biased or they have very sloppy editorial control.
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26/11/2020 15:44:02 69 24
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I feel really sorry for those who are genuinely looking for work and have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own. However, I have no sympathy for Career layabouts who have never done a days work in their lives and expect the tax payer to stump up for their lifestyle choices. The Welfare State was set up as a Safety Net, not a Lifestyle Choice. Get off your lazy butts and get a job
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26/11/2020 16:24:11 47 21
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Completely agree with this comment. The welfare state was a safety net. I am sick to the back teeth of people moaning and acting like the Govt owes them something when it is the hard working taxpayers that pick up the tab. It is not just financial implications but the attitude of these people that too affects the rest of society.
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26/11/2020 16:56:35 12 6
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Perhaps the Workhouse would suit you better. Not for them, but yourself.

Why are you sick of these people you imagined, saying things you imagined they say? When do you meet them? WHy do you listen to them?

Just because the Daily Mail invents a story about one person doing OK and fabricates something they didn;t say about it, doesn't make it true for the other millions of real people.
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26/11/2020 20:57:53 3 3
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Could not agree more , sadly I have a branch of my family who don’t work, produce kids and know the system inside out and believe they have a right to expect to be fully looked after.
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26/11/2020 16:24:14 25 11
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It's |NOT a cut, it's just taking back the extra that was given to them to pay for food for kids during non school time. And now that Bojo has given in and allowing free school dinners during hols too, then there's no need for them to keep having it
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26/11/2020 16:36:05 10 9
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Your comment only applies to those who have schoolchildren. How about those who don't?
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26/11/2020 16:41:18 8 0
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No need to stimulate the ecomony by giving people who, without any chance to do otherwise nor any fault of their own, are now unemployed and unlikely to find work for the next 4 years.

That £20 a week would be spent in shops. Shops that employ people, shops that will close, leaving fewer jobs, more people stuck on benefits, and the cycle deepens.

It's called "recession" and is not a good thing.
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26/11/2020 19:52:50 1 1
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Its a cut. Lets make kids starve to pay for the botched pandemic response
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26/11/2020 16:19:54 21 17
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Here we go again: Tories as usual punishing the poorest in society. I'd been more impressed with Sunak if he had closed those 'it may be immoral, but it's not illegal' tax loop holes for the super-rich. But I guess that'd be too unpopular with Tory donors and hedge fund managers like JRM et al. But, you knew what you voted for and gave them a 80 seat majority. It really was 'the devil you know'.
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26/11/2020 16:26:56 11 13
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it was a temp increase to cover extra food for kids while schools were shut, but seeing as the tories have decided to cover the costs of scool meals out of school time then it's doing the right thing. Oh I forgot that 'some' of these scroungers think it's for themselves, but get real
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26/11/2020 16:38:37 4 0
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Why are people on UC "scroungers"? Many are the working poor doing jobs you wouldn't, others have just lost their jobs in hospitality etc through no fault of their own.

Your comment reflects badly on you.
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26/11/2020 16:48:17 5 0
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No, it really wasn't. The uplift applied to all claimants, not just those with school-age children.

Arguably, it was a boost to those possible Tory voters so they would all start to believe UC is actually enought to live on. Now that they are unlikely to vote Tory again, there's no need to continue the (economically useful, cost effective) uplift.

Scroungers, eh? Unlike pensioners, I expect.
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26/11/2020 16:13:53 17 33
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So you're happy with the idea of this being taken away from them despite their situation not having changed, are you? Quitling.
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26/11/2020 16:28:45 13 6
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situation HAS changed, bojo &co are giving free school meals out of schoool time now, which is what this temp increase was supposed to cover
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26/11/2020 15:56:56 27 20
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Tories will only do something if it helps one of their rich chums
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26/11/2020 16:29:20 7 4
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Its called a "Chumocracy"
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26/11/2020 16:31:17 19 12
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Of course they are stopping the extra payment, otherwise they might have to implement a more progressive tax system and the 'I'm alright Jacks' will never allow that.
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27/11/2020 13:06:52 2 0
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What is fair or progressive about taxing higher earners more? People who earn higher sums are being rewarded for taking on risk (running their own business, performing complex surgery) and/or for skills that take a lot of training for or are in short demand. A flat % rate across all taxpayers is what I would deem fair.

Inherited wealth is a different matter.
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26/11/2020 16:16:47 11 14
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Yawn. Many of the comments on this website are just anti-Tory rants. Yours is the same. Say something new.
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26/11/2020 16:33:41 14 6
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Why are you so upset that people are criticising the government?
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27/11/2020 08:24:45 0 0
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Because it highlights their own lack of empathy & the fact they endorse punishing the poor & disabled.
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26/11/2020 16:34:41 14 5
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My UC payment statement says £0 as my military pension is deducted. So no £20 uplift for me.
I had expected to get my State pension this year but born in wrong half of 1950's. So have to claim UC to get NI credit upto I am 66.
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26/11/2020 16:35:43 36 13
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It's odd how poorer people on benefits are called 'scroungers' but the colossal social cheats, e.g. your average billionaire, who 'legally' avoid taxes and underpay workers are not. I am of the opinion that the crueler the political party, the more popular it is with the electorate. Economics creates the bulk of poverty not lifestyle choices. It's all about controlling inflation as is well known.
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26/11/2020 17:00:13 11 28
bbc
Agreed, and the pensioners try to pretend that they're not on benefits. ??
265
26/11/2020 23:29:52 1 1
bbc
It’s all about net contribution. The wealthy you demand pay more are already paying in lots more than they would ever take out of the system & then they go & reduce how much they take out again by paying for things like private education & healthcare.

I guess it’s easy to demand more all the time when your not the one paying for anything.....
31
26/11/2020 16:24:14 25 11
bbc
It's |NOT a cut, it's just taking back the extra that was given to them to pay for food for kids during non school time. And now that Bojo has given in and allowing free school dinners during hols too, then there's no need for them to keep having it
39
26/11/2020 16:36:05 10 9
bbc
Your comment only applies to those who have schoolchildren. How about those who don't?
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26/11/2020 16:36:49 26 17
bbc
Wealthy Tory Donors have vastly increased their wealth during the pandemic but the Economic cost will be paid by the sick, disabled and poor, just as it was in 2008..this Government has utter contempt for ordinary people
29
rr6
26/11/2020 16:24:06 41 20
bbc
More BBC biased journalism again. The headline should be “Temporary benefit increase ends” rather than “millions face losing benefits”.
41
26/11/2020 16:37:05 19 16
bbc
The word "temporary" is literally in the first line of the article. Are you the type of person who only reads headlines?
275
27/11/2020 00:47:33 2 0
bbc
No but headlines make the impact
32
26/11/2020 16:26:56 11 13
bbc
it was a temp increase to cover extra food for kids while schools were shut, but seeing as the tories have decided to cover the costs of scool meals out of school time then it's doing the right thing. Oh I forgot that 'some' of these scroungers think it's for themselves, but get real
42
26/11/2020 16:38:37 4 0
bbc
Why are people on UC "scroungers"? Many are the working poor doing jobs you wouldn't, others have just lost their jobs in hospitality etc through no fault of their own.

Your comment reflects badly on you.
27
26/11/2020 16:19:11 20 12
bbc
If you want more: earn it. This was a temporary increase.
43
26/11/2020 16:39:19 15 7
bbc
Have you ever been made redundant through no fault of your own, Mr I'm Alright Jack?
181
26/11/2020 19:24:03 1 1
bbc
Yes four times in total and taken anything to manage whilst finding what best suited me and my family, help the genuine but recover it from serial scroungers
208
26/11/2020 19:55:50 1 0
bbc
I've been made redundant twice, and both times I've got on my bike and got another job. Does no-one else consider this option?
27
26/11/2020 16:19:11 20 12
bbc
If you want more: earn it. This was a temporary increase.
44
26/11/2020 16:40:42 4 0
bbc
Basic economics: too many jobs tends to cause inflation to rapidly increase, at least in the short-term, and govts don't allow that. Poverty is built in to the system as economies require an optimum level of unemployment which is absolutely not zero.
144
26/11/2020 18:32:13 1 1
bbc
But your comment, although true, doesn't 'chime' with my un-researched, bigoted, I'm alright Jack (for now) attitude to life. To understand your comment, I'll have to read, question, analyse facts objectively etc. Why go to all that trouble when I can just go with my first gut-reaction? You'll be asking me to read and think before I vote next? Democracy is too much hassle for anon123 et-al
193
26/11/2020 19:42:04 1 1
bbc
Switzerland seems to cope rather well, with low inflation, low unemployment, comfortable wages and high levels of immigration.
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26/11/2020 16:24:14 25 11
bbc
It's |NOT a cut, it's just taking back the extra that was given to them to pay for food for kids during non school time. And now that Bojo has given in and allowing free school dinners during hols too, then there's no need for them to keep having it
45
26/11/2020 16:41:18 8 0
bbc
No need to stimulate the ecomony by giving people who, without any chance to do otherwise nor any fault of their own, are now unemployed and unlikely to find work for the next 4 years.

That £20 a week would be spent in shops. Shops that employ people, shops that will close, leaving fewer jobs, more people stuck on benefits, and the cycle deepens.

It's called "recession" and is not a good thing.
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26/11/2020 19:49:11 2 2
bbc
I'll bet a lot of it got spent on fripperies like hair and nails. The kids come last in a lot of benefit households.
46
26/11/2020 16:41:35 5 5
bbc
I'm a single parent on Legacy Benefits we got ZERO for the Pandemic!

So as far as I am concerned, all the people who recieved furlough payments are the ones who should get the taxed to pay the GOV back.

New Year increase of Energy! people on furlough who haven't payed bills
You can pay that as well.

Their are NO options for people on Legacy Benefits because WE pay first.

Take Note No11
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26/11/2020 17:01:25 4 2
bbc
Yet you will turn against other people in a similar siutuation?

"Crab bucket" > you'd rather pull everyone else down instead of letting them help you up.
29
rr6
26/11/2020 16:24:06 41 20
bbc
More BBC biased journalism again. The headline should be “Temporary benefit increase ends” rather than “millions face losing benefits”.
47
26/11/2020 16:43:31 3 5
bbc
", campaigners warn", writes the BBC

"Looks like Agolf missed a trick ; you didn't even read the whole headline before banging your silly little drum", writes an anonymous poster
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26/11/2020 15:44:02 69 24
bbc
I feel really sorry for those who are genuinely looking for work and have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own. However, I have no sympathy for Career layabouts who have never done a days work in their lives and expect the tax payer to stump up for their lifestyle choices. The Welfare State was set up as a Safety Net, not a Lifestyle Choice. Get off your lazy butts and get a job
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26/11/2020 16:44:48 23 4
bbc
"However, I have no sympathy for Career layabouts who have never done a days work in their lives and expect the tax payer to stump up for their lifestyle choices."

While I'm sure there are instances like this, I think they're the exception rather than the rule. The vast majority of benefits go to people who are in work.
27
26/11/2020 16:19:11 20 12
bbc
If you want more: earn it. This was a temporary increase.
49
26/11/2020 16:45:10 9 1
bbc
It is very easy to be on UC and in full time employment in a NLW job. My kids have left home but, before you say "don't have kids you cannot afford" my current job pays me approx 20% less than I was earning in 2010 and less than what I earned in 1989 - when my eldest (of two) was born. Two redundancies and a personal pride is "doing what it takes" created this. I am not alone in this situation.
4
26/11/2020 15:44:02 69 24
bbc
I feel really sorry for those who are genuinely looking for work and have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own. However, I have no sympathy for Career layabouts who have never done a days work in their lives and expect the tax payer to stump up for their lifestyle choices. The Welfare State was set up as a Safety Net, not a Lifestyle Choice. Get off your lazy butts and get a job
50
26/11/2020 16:46:16 6 5
bbc
Unemployment is built into the system. If unemployment falls too low there is a danger of inflation spiralling out of control, at least in the short-term, so govts act against this. In the long-term the economy tends to its own equilibrium with a certain non-zero unemployment rate. The unemployed are sacrificed to benefit everyone else by maintaining economic stability.
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26/11/2020 16:03:19 4 3
bbc
Outrageous comment!! Once the pandemic & Brexit are over I can see Bob being taken down a peg or two!! About time too!!
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26/11/2020 16:46:43 0 0
bbc
Who is Bob and what has he done?
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LG
26/11/2020 17:48:27 2 1
bbc
You're obviously not a regular on here if you don't know Bob the BBC hating brexiteer!
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26/11/2020 16:47:36 9 7
bbc
What a nasty attitude, headline. Free hand out bonus money will come to an end and not before time. It was never meant to be fo ever, so do not use or spend it! Do not get into a higher spending habit. £1000 wasted on every one. How about reducing the relevant benefits to recover the bonus over the next five years. All in it together after all.
72
26/11/2020 17:00:40 8 6
bbc
What a nasty, mean-spirit you have; any opportunity to reel out your pre-Dickensian attitudes to the working poor, who increasdingly become the non-working poor.

Shall they be whipped, flogged, or transported to the colonies?

It isn't 1830 any more.
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26/11/2020 17:24:36 3 0
bbc
Does that apply to your triple lock?
53
26/11/2020 16:45:28 13 3
bbc
UK has over reliance on service industries.

Invest in manufacturing rather than wasting on furlough etc which is a policy for idleness.
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26/11/2020 16:58:58 3 3
bbc
Try reading the article?

Without furlough, what do you think would have happened to all the jobs? They would have vanished a year ago. And that would have saved you what, exactly?

"just as unemployment levels were expected to peak, the foundation said, with the government predicting 2.6 million could be out of work by the middle of next year"
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26/11/2020 16:59:32 4 1
bbc
Go on then. Nobody stopping you "investing". However, I don't see why my taxes should be used to prop up your failing business. Prop it up yourself.
74
26/11/2020 17:02:50 3 1
bbc
Making what exactly? Bespoke luxury goods aside, UK manufacturers cannot hope to compete with China in a global market.

UK workers are going to need a lot more help before this is all over.
169
26/11/2020 19:15:55 4 0
bbc
such as?
we have no manufacturing skills left
thank Thatcher.
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26/11/2020 19:32:53 2 0
bbc
Exactly who should invest in what? Assuming you mean govt, who (not just the EU) will allow subsidised U.K. imports to flood their markets and destroy their indigenous industries. You must be very deluded and have an 19c mindset.
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27/11/2020 07:04:03 1 0
bbc
Yes we do need to have a manufacturing base in the UK, but because Conservatives believe in the free market the UK has sold most to oversees buyers to asset strip and keep the bits that work well, UK government has been blind to the fact that some are now causing security issues when sold to foreign countries, and some countries aggressively subsidised their own industry to collapse opposition
54
26/11/2020 16:46:06 9 10
bbc
Work or starve. Sooner we get to that mentality the better
57
26/11/2020 16:49:55 12 4
bbc
If there are not enough jobs to go round would you advocate that families starve?
67
26/11/2020 16:57:55 4 0
bbc
Excellent idea.

"just as unemployment levels were expected to peak, the foundation said, with the government predicting 2.6 million could be out of work by the middle of next year"

Perhaps we could eat them, the lazy scum that lazily got fired...
32
26/11/2020 16:26:56 11 13
bbc
it was a temp increase to cover extra food for kids while schools were shut, but seeing as the tories have decided to cover the costs of scool meals out of school time then it's doing the right thing. Oh I forgot that 'some' of these scroungers think it's for themselves, but get real
55
26/11/2020 16:48:17 5 0
bbc
No, it really wasn't. The uplift applied to all claimants, not just those with school-age children.

Arguably, it was a boost to those possible Tory voters so they would all start to believe UC is actually enought to live on. Now that they are unlikely to vote Tory again, there's no need to continue the (economically useful, cost effective) uplift.

Scroungers, eh? Unlike pensioners, I expect.
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DAC
26/11/2020 16:48:35 10 7
bbc
Another false story, there was no announcement made from Sunak re universal credit yesterday. He said it would be renewed in the spring, when the country will have a better view of the way forward out of the pandemic.
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26/11/2020 16:59:16 6 2
bbc
The false story is Yours.

The Chancellor had been asked the question By Child Poverty Groups and Shadow Cabinet Ministers previous to Mr Sunak's Spending Review about the dramatically rise in Child Poverty in the UK, and how the discontinuation of the £20 p/w would negate that Fact.
54
26/11/2020 16:46:06 9 10
bbc
Work or starve. Sooner we get to that mentality the better
57
26/11/2020 16:49:55 12 4
bbc
If there are not enough jobs to go round would you advocate that families starve?
81
26/11/2020 17:11:24 3 0
bbc
"If"?

"As".

I assume "we" meant "they", too, but I'll check what Charles Dickens had to say about that.
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Dan
26/11/2020 17:13:15 2 4
bbc
IF one really wants to work, he/she can find a job. Any one claiming "no enough jobs" is lazy, pickish, parasiting, ..
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26/11/2020 16:14:32 3 4
bbc
It is not a cut. The payments are reverting to what they were before. Inaccurate headline.
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26/11/2020 16:51:28 2 1
bbc
Yawn.

We all understand English. Not all of us have a bilous attack when one perfectly intelligible word is substituted for another.

"Cut" is another word for "reduction", FYI. Without reference to the permanence or otherwise of the status quo ante. Ipso facto, duncum eres.
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26/11/2020 16:51:46 1 6
bbc
More PROOF Austerity Is HERE to Stay!

Labour WON'T Do Anything about it!

Lib Dems Either!

Their all the same Breed - Poverty doesn't shift under either Party !

You can equate it to: Governmental Systematic Abuse
9
26/11/2020 15:54:36 19 6
bbc
Which part of "Six million households face a £1,000 cut to their benefits if a temporary increase to Universal Credit is not kept in place, new research claims." has upset your feelings?
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26/11/2020 16:51:59 1 2
bbc
The part where there is a pretence that a temporary gift not being handed out for free is 'taking' anything at all away from anyone that has been recieving a free temprary GIFT.
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26/11/2020 16:53:28 7 6
bbc
Benefits to be cut, job losses increase by the day, businesses to fail, record national debt, unemployment to go to 7.5% plus, tax rises for those who have no off shore accounts, and Brexit still to come....Still, we can spend more on defence and Rees Mogg and his chime will prosper in the new deregulated, money laundering Britain.
27
26/11/2020 16:19:11 20 12
bbc
If you want more: earn it. This was a temporary increase.
62
26/11/2020 16:53:33 3 1
bbc
In an economy where there are plenty of jobs for workers to pick and choose this pushes up labour costs which tends to push up the price of goods and services and can, depedning on circumstances, cause a rapid rise in inflation. In the long-run the economy stabilises with a certain unemployment rate to prevent such instabilities, often assisted by govt, maintaining a certain unemployment level.
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26/11/2020 17:07:47 5 1
bbc
I believe the phrase "structural unemployment" was coined by Thatcher, primarily as a means to suppress wages, leading to the wondrous years of record unemployment in the 1980s. Many areas will never recover.

What is OK is a computer simulation is not OK when it people's food, heat, home... unless you're a Tory / bigot / both.
4
26/11/2020 15:44:02 69 24
bbc
I feel really sorry for those who are genuinely looking for work and have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own. However, I have no sympathy for Career layabouts who have never done a days work in their lives and expect the tax payer to stump up for their lifestyle choices. The Welfare State was set up as a Safety Net, not a Lifestyle Choice. Get off your lazy butts and get a job
63
26/11/2020 16:54:25 5 7
bbc
There's millions of jobs out there, just waiting to be filled in our booming economy that totally isn't going into a deeper recession, and none of the millions of people being laid off will be looking for a job, and their jobs will still be there really...

You know this, because for every vacancy offered at minimum wage, 100 people apply... proving there are 20m jobs right here, right now.
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rr6
26/11/2020 16:24:06 41 20
bbc
More BBC biased journalism again. The headline should be “Temporary benefit increase ends” rather than “millions face losing benefits”.
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rr6
26/11/2020 16:56:10 11 5
bbc
For those who don’t think the exact wording of headlines matter, it is clear that you don’t understand journalism, marketing or psychology. The precise wording of headlines and the photos that accompany them can be very powerful. The BBC headlines are either biased or they have very sloppy editorial control.
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26/11/2020 19:20:12 1 1
bbc
Think even a schoolchild can understand that and they are far from sloppy
246
26/11/2020 21:05:33 1 2
bbc
Maybe you should stop reading them and commenting on them if they bother you so much? You'll make yourself ill.
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26/11/2020 16:24:11 47 21
bbc
Completely agree with this comment. The welfare state was a safety net. I am sick to the back teeth of people moaning and acting like the Govt owes them something when it is the hard working taxpayers that pick up the tab. It is not just financial implications but the attitude of these people that too affects the rest of society.
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26/11/2020 16:56:35 12 6
bbc
Perhaps the Workhouse would suit you better. Not for them, but yourself.

Why are you sick of these people you imagined, saying things you imagined they say? When do you meet them? WHy do you listen to them?

Just because the Daily Mail invents a story about one person doing OK and fabricates something they didn;t say about it, doesn't make it true for the other millions of real people.
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26/11/2020 15:46:28 46 33
bbc
For the government to have empathy with the “poor” it would need to have a soul, which was sold to the devil a very long time ago.

They voted against giving impoverished kids food over holidays during a pandemic. You don’t need to look any further.

Then again you lot voted for Tories and Brexit. Covid was a blip in the road.

Reap what you sow and deal with it.
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26/11/2020 16:56:56 6 13
bbc
Just wish there was a party that actually did cut these things back not pay faux lip service to it. Pathetic freezes to grossly overpaid public sector, to excessive benefits. Created an 'entitled' to a rich lifestyle population, causing our economic decline. Your children you feed them. Food is very cheap. No excuses, no hand meals.
198
26/11/2020 19:46:38 5 0
bbc
Utter ignorant drivel. Lets see you living on £74.35 a week with a disability like MS, or after losing your job due to the pandemic
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27/11/2020 10:28:37 1 2
bbc
Ppl do feed their children, they starve for it & work
Entitled?
Most would go without internet, although UC is online
Excessive benefits?
Don’t make me laugh
Grossly overpaid public sector workers?
Maybe at the top, the ones on the street?
Calories are cheap, price of healthy food is increasing
Causing economic decline?
Wow... just wow
??????
Is it saint or street in your name?
Denied by both...
54
26/11/2020 16:46:06 9 10
bbc
Work or starve. Sooner we get to that mentality the better
67
26/11/2020 16:57:55 4 0
bbc
Excellent idea.

"just as unemployment levels were expected to peak, the foundation said, with the government predicting 2.6 million could be out of work by the middle of next year"

Perhaps we could eat them, the lazy scum that lazily got fired...
53
26/11/2020 16:45:28 13 3
bbc
UK has over reliance on service industries.

Invest in manufacturing rather than wasting on furlough etc which is a policy for idleness.
68
26/11/2020 16:58:58 3 3
bbc
Try reading the article?

Without furlough, what do you think would have happened to all the jobs? They would have vanished a year ago. And that would have saved you what, exactly?

"just as unemployment levels were expected to peak, the foundation said, with the government predicting 2.6 million could be out of work by the middle of next year"
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DAC
26/11/2020 16:48:35 10 7
bbc
Another false story, there was no announcement made from Sunak re universal credit yesterday. He said it would be renewed in the spring, when the country will have a better view of the way forward out of the pandemic.
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26/11/2020 16:59:16 6 2
bbc
The false story is Yours.

The Chancellor had been asked the question By Child Poverty Groups and Shadow Cabinet Ministers previous to Mr Sunak's Spending Review about the dramatically rise in Child Poverty in the UK, and how the discontinuation of the £20 p/w would negate that Fact.
53
26/11/2020 16:45:28 13 3
bbc
UK has over reliance on service industries.

Invest in manufacturing rather than wasting on furlough etc which is a policy for idleness.
70
26/11/2020 16:59:32 4 1
bbc
Go on then. Nobody stopping you "investing". However, I don't see why my taxes should be used to prop up your failing business. Prop it up yourself.
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26/11/2020 16:35:43 36 13
bbc
It's odd how poorer people on benefits are called 'scroungers' but the colossal social cheats, e.g. your average billionaire, who 'legally' avoid taxes and underpay workers are not. I am of the opinion that the crueler the political party, the more popular it is with the electorate. Economics creates the bulk of poverty not lifestyle choices. It's all about controlling inflation as is well known.
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26/11/2020 17:00:13 11 28
bbc
Agreed, and the pensioners try to pretend that they're not on benefits. ??
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ike
26/11/2020 17:23:22 15 3
bbc
Can you explain how pensioners are on benefits,
Some do get pension credit but not all.
113
26/11/2020 17:43:51 19 2
bbc
Most pensioners have paid taxes all their lives.
143
26/11/2020 18:20:24 14 2
bbc
Pensions are earned, therefore are not benefits.
196
26/11/2020 19:45:46 4 3
bbc
Pensioners have by and large paid in all their workring lives.
Many (not all) outhouse on UC are feckless, work shy, scroungers.
See the difference.
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27/11/2020 00:01:05 1 0
bbc
pensioners have paid into the system for years long before there was company/private pensions they fought in the wars and lived on meager incomes for years they paid for what they now get and its not welfare
274
27/11/2020 00:45:55 1 0
bbc
I am sorry that I am a pensioner. I worked for 50 years and managed to save for a private pension. I also paid taxes and national insurance for 50 years. So are you blaming me for being a pensioner. Perhaps everyone should be culled when they reach 66.
52
26/11/2020 16:47:36 9 7
bbc
What a nasty attitude, headline. Free hand out bonus money will come to an end and not before time. It was never meant to be fo ever, so do not use or spend it! Do not get into a higher spending habit. £1000 wasted on every one. How about reducing the relevant benefits to recover the bonus over the next five years. All in it together after all.
72
26/11/2020 17:00:40 8 6
bbc
What a nasty, mean-spirit you have; any opportunity to reel out your pre-Dickensian attitudes to the working poor, who increasdingly become the non-working poor.

Shall they be whipped, flogged, or transported to the colonies?

It isn't 1830 any more.
98
26/11/2020 17:26:43 2 0
bbc
'“Are there no prisons?” asked Scrooge.
“Plenty of prisons,” said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.
“And the Union workhouses?” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?”
“They are."
...
"I help to support the establishments I have mentioned – they cost enough; and
those who are badly off must go there.”'

I don't know why that quote came to mind.
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26/11/2020 16:41:35 5 5
bbc
I'm a single parent on Legacy Benefits we got ZERO for the Pandemic!

So as far as I am concerned, all the people who recieved furlough payments are the ones who should get the taxed to pay the GOV back.

New Year increase of Energy! people on furlough who haven't payed bills
You can pay that as well.

Their are NO options for people on Legacy Benefits because WE pay first.

Take Note No11
73
26/11/2020 17:01:25 4 2
bbc
Yet you will turn against other people in a similar siutuation?

"Crab bucket" > you'd rather pull everyone else down instead of letting them help you up.
86
26/11/2020 17:13:42 1 0
bbc
Where ,When and Who are going to help people in the same situation?

Certainly Not You or Anyone Else otherwise this situation wouldn't have occured in the first place.

SRP!
53
26/11/2020 16:45:28 13 3
bbc
UK has over reliance on service industries.

Invest in manufacturing rather than wasting on furlough etc which is a policy for idleness.
74
26/11/2020 17:02:50 3 1
bbc
Making what exactly? Bespoke luxury goods aside, UK manufacturers cannot hope to compete with China in a global market.

UK workers are going to need a lot more help before this is all over.
77
26/11/2020 17:05:36 1 1
bbc
UK Workers!

Try The Whole West!
75
26/11/2020 17:02:51 3 3
bbc
And a No Deal Brexit will compound the issues of people on low income. Possible food shortages, restricted choice in the supermarkets, job losses. Plus needing to transport in bulk Covid vaccine through the Channel ports!
27
26/11/2020 16:19:11 20 12
bbc
If you want more: earn it. This was a temporary increase.
76
26/11/2020 17:05:26 5 2
bbc
Hmm? Did you read the bit where it said there will be another 2.6m unemployed? Obviously not.

Your level of ignorance is astounding. When did you last work, 1830?
74
26/11/2020 17:02:50 3 1
bbc
Making what exactly? Bespoke luxury goods aside, UK manufacturers cannot hope to compete with China in a global market.

UK workers are going to need a lot more help before this is all over.
77
26/11/2020 17:05:36 1 1
bbc
UK Workers!

Try The Whole West!
78
26/11/2020 17:05:56 2 7
bbc
A genuine question . . . How is it that we have many more disabled people than ever before even though medicine and other technology has massively moved forward ? Seems to be so many claiming disability benefits.
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26/11/2020 17:09:25 5 1
bbc
"Seems to be"?

1. No there aren't
2. Where did you hear that?
3. There are more OLD people now, and old people get sick more often.
85
26/11/2020 17:13:21 5 0
bbc
We have the worst dietary and lifestyle habits in Europe
100
26/11/2020 17:30:28 3 0
bbc
Improvements in medical treatment have kept me alive for an extra 17 years, 56 now, experimental surgery to remove cancer and ICD to keep heart going after treatment triggered problems. Kept working for 8 years with stage 4 cancer and stage 2-3 heart failure, but made me incredibly unwell. Went from a well paid job I loved to benefits, not the lucrative, rewarding life you seem to think it is!
102
26/11/2020 17:31:11 1 2
bbc
As of Feb 2019 there were over two million people claiming Disability Living Allowance. Now that is a lot of claims. . . All genuine ?
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26/11/2020 16:53:33 3 1
bbc
In an economy where there are plenty of jobs for workers to pick and choose this pushes up labour costs which tends to push up the price of goods and services and can, depedning on circumstances, cause a rapid rise in inflation. In the long-run the economy stabilises with a certain unemployment rate to prevent such instabilities, often assisted by govt, maintaining a certain unemployment level.
79
26/11/2020 17:07:47 5 1
bbc
I believe the phrase "structural unemployment" was coined by Thatcher, primarily as a means to suppress wages, leading to the wondrous years of record unemployment in the 1980s. Many areas will never recover.

What is OK is a computer simulation is not OK when it people's food, heat, home... unless you're a Tory / bigot / both.
78
26/11/2020 17:05:56 2 7
bbc
A genuine question . . . How is it that we have many more disabled people than ever before even though medicine and other technology has massively moved forward ? Seems to be so many claiming disability benefits.
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26/11/2020 17:09:25 5 1
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"Seems to be"?

1. No there aren't
2. Where did you hear that?
3. There are more OLD people now, and old people get sick more often.
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26/11/2020 17:16:53 2 0
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Cyril also seems to have forgotten that methods of diagnosing people with mental disabilities have also improved, meaning that instead of simply being labelled "retarded" or "backwards" and then locked up, people are now diagnosed properly and given help and support to cope with their challenges.
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26/11/2020 18:47:14 0 0
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If these old people are retired then they should not be claiming disability allowance, they should be on state and / or private pensions.
57
26/11/2020 16:49:55 12 4
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If there are not enough jobs to go round would you advocate that families starve?
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26/11/2020 17:11:24 3 0
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"If"?

"As".

I assume "we" meant "they", too, but I'll check what Charles Dickens had to say about that.
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26/11/2020 17:12:16 25 20
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No sympathy whatsoever for the Red Wall traitors that swallowed the Brexit lies and will bear the brunt the heaviest by voting for a party that always has and always will screw them.
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LG
26/11/2020 17:18:59 12 6
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+1
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26/11/2020 17:33:47 4 2
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+2
Got to claw back that 14bn spaffed on Dido Harding somehow.

I don't mind if got award contracts to people they know, but could those people at least not be proven failures with absolutely no skill or experience in the area?

May as well appoint Corbyn chief rabbi!
Removed
57
26/11/2020 16:49:55 12 4
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If there are not enough jobs to go round would you advocate that families starve?
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Dan
26/11/2020 17:13:15 2 4
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IF one really wants to work, he/she can find a job. Any one claiming "no enough jobs" is lazy, pickish, parasiting, ..
90
26/11/2020 17:19:44 1 0
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"I have a job, therefore everyone can have a job."
I'm starting to think that "A Modest Proposal, by Jonathan Swift" should be mandatory reading.
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26/11/2020 17:23:45 3 1
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That is patent nonsense. Capitalism has a long history of periods of mass unemployment where there simply aren't enough jobs to go around. We are entering one such period very soon.

Though how lovely of you calling the jobless "parasites". A proper little Tory cap-doffer.
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26/11/2020 17:05:56 2 7
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A genuine question . . . How is it that we have many more disabled people than ever before even though medicine and other technology has massively moved forward ? Seems to be so many claiming disability benefits.
85
26/11/2020 17:13:21 5 0
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We have the worst dietary and lifestyle habits in Europe
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26/11/2020 17:01:25 4 2
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Yet you will turn against other people in a similar siutuation?

"Crab bucket" > you'd rather pull everyone else down instead of letting them help you up.
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26/11/2020 17:13:42 1 0
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Where ,When and Who are going to help people in the same situation?

Certainly Not You or Anyone Else otherwise this situation wouldn't have occured in the first place.

SRP!
80
26/11/2020 17:09:25 5 1
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"Seems to be"?

1. No there aren't
2. Where did you hear that?
3. There are more OLD people now, and old people get sick more often.
87
26/11/2020 17:16:53 2 0
bbc
Cyril also seems to have forgotten that methods of diagnosing people with mental disabilities have also improved, meaning that instead of simply being labelled "retarded" or "backwards" and then locked up, people are now diagnosed properly and given help and support to cope with their challenges.
82
26/11/2020 17:12:16 25 20
bbc
No sympathy whatsoever for the Red Wall traitors that swallowed the Brexit lies and will bear the brunt the heaviest by voting for a party that always has and always will screw them.
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LG
26/11/2020 17:18:59 12 6
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+1
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26/11/2020 18:41:30 4 4
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Red waller here - I'll be voting for them next time and not the carping fence-sitting, hindsight speakers called Labour. Took our votes for a century and then when the people spoke (on Brexit) they told us we simply didn't understand and they'd do the opposite. They'll never be forgiven. No certain seats for party cronies up here any more.
Sorry to disappoint and all that.
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26/11/2020 17:19:37 27 7
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Removing a temporary increase isn't a cut.
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26/11/2020 17:57:21 6 15
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By definition, it is.
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Dan
26/11/2020 17:13:15 2 4
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IF one really wants to work, he/she can find a job. Any one claiming "no enough jobs" is lazy, pickish, parasiting, ..
90
26/11/2020 17:19:44 1 0
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"I have a job, therefore everyone can have a job."
I'm starting to think that "A Modest Proposal, by Jonathan Swift" should be mandatory reading.
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26/11/2020 17:22:51 4 4
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But the PM is"confident we will prosper from a No Deal Brexit".
So there should be plenty of money for benefits, the public sector and the health service. You'd wonder what all the fuss was about.
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26/11/2020 17:00:13 11 28
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Agreed, and the pensioners try to pretend that they're not on benefits. ??
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ike
26/11/2020 17:23:22 15 3
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Can you explain how pensioners are on benefits,
Some do get pension credit but not all.
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26/11/2020 19:08:30 4 8
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Pension is a benefit, whether contributed to, as in most cases, or not.
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Dan
26/11/2020 17:13:15 2 4
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IF one really wants to work, he/she can find a job. Any one claiming "no enough jobs" is lazy, pickish, parasiting, ..
93
26/11/2020 17:23:45 3 1
bbc
That is patent nonsense. Capitalism has a long history of periods of mass unemployment where there simply aren't enough jobs to go around. We are entering one such period very soon.

Though how lovely of you calling the jobless "parasites". A proper little Tory cap-doffer.
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ike
26/11/2020 17:33:54 2 2
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Plenty jobs for immigrants how do they find jobs So easy?
94
26/11/2020 17:24:08 6 2
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and the poor will just get poorer
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26/11/2020 16:47:36 9 7
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What a nasty attitude, headline. Free hand out bonus money will come to an end and not before time. It was never meant to be fo ever, so do not use or spend it! Do not get into a higher spending habit. £1000 wasted on every one. How about reducing the relevant benefits to recover the bonus over the next five years. All in it together after all.
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26/11/2020 17:24:36 3 0
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Does that apply to your triple lock?
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26/11/2020 17:25:47 7 3
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Welfare accounts for 34% of government spending or £264bn in 2017 (goodness knows how much this year - £25bn to cover the £1000 - 2 times the excess spent on PPE) dwarfing anything else in the budget - it does leave you scratching your head?

I'm not sure what the solution is; ever increasing welfare is not it. The increase was temporary (perhaps short sighted?) and must be reversed
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26/11/2020 17:27:36 5 5
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Most of it is the State Pension and because we have an ever-increasing number of old folk then we'll have ever-increasing welfare.
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26/11/2020 17:26:36 5 3
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given the job losses and blighted economy
will the dwp now stop that hideous tactic of dragging claims out for weeks and weeks so as to squeeze people?
it's driving indebtedness and stressing people to the point of desperation
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26/11/2020 17:00:40 8 6
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What a nasty, mean-spirit you have; any opportunity to reel out your pre-Dickensian attitudes to the working poor, who increasdingly become the non-working poor.

Shall they be whipped, flogged, or transported to the colonies?

It isn't 1830 any more.
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26/11/2020 17:26:43 2 0
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'“Are there no prisons?” asked Scrooge.
“Plenty of prisons,” said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.
“And the Union workhouses?” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?”
“They are."
...
"I help to support the establishments I have mentioned – they cost enough; and
those who are badly off must go there.”'

I don't know why that quote came to mind.
96
26/11/2020 17:25:47 7 3
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Welfare accounts for 34% of government spending or £264bn in 2017 (goodness knows how much this year - £25bn to cover the £1000 - 2 times the excess spent on PPE) dwarfing anything else in the budget - it does leave you scratching your head?

I'm not sure what the solution is; ever increasing welfare is not it. The increase was temporary (perhaps short sighted?) and must be reversed
99
26/11/2020 17:27:36 5 5
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Most of it is the State Pension and because we have an ever-increasing number of old folk then we'll have ever-increasing welfare.
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26/11/2020 17:49:18 4 1
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Yeah old folk who I might add have done THEIR duty WORKED hard during hard times & got on with life. Leave PENSIONERS alone !! You might be ONE Yerself if you live long enough !!
78
26/11/2020 17:05:56 2 7
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A genuine question . . . How is it that we have many more disabled people than ever before even though medicine and other technology has massively moved forward ? Seems to be so many claiming disability benefits.
100
26/11/2020 17:30:28 3 0
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Improvements in medical treatment have kept me alive for an extra 17 years, 56 now, experimental surgery to remove cancer and ICD to keep heart going after treatment triggered problems. Kept working for 8 years with stage 4 cancer and stage 2-3 heart failure, but made me incredibly unwell. Went from a well paid job I loved to benefits, not the lucrative, rewarding life you seem to think it is!