Ford starts for England against Wales
26/11/2020 | sport | rugbyunion | 1,083
Fly-half George Ford returns to the starting XV for England's Autumn Nations Cup match with Wales in Llanelli on Saturday.
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26/11/2020 11:17:04 54 4
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That was always likely given that Lawrence is injured.

Slade is a superb O/C and Ford should give the backline a bit more urgency. If the forwards can get the "go-forward" he should thrive.

Looks to be a good game with fair(ish) weather.
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26/11/2020 11:31:50 20 9
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England look more imaginative with him at 10, but Farrell does have better game management. I imagine they expect good go forward tomorrow so Ford is a good shout imo
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26/11/2020 11:35:08 1 11
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Slade is a good O/C for club but struggles at international level without Tuilagi inside him creating the space that he needs. Would love to be proved wrong on Saturday but that's the evidence we've seen to date
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26/11/2020 11:59:34 5 2
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Spot on when the English forwards get going forward Ford is perfect and joy to watch. If we don’t get that momentum he gets found out. Looking at the packs it’s a fair bet though the English forwards have the upper hand here.
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26/11/2020 11:17:08 6 1
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Let's hope for the best but prepare for the worst.
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26/11/2020 11:17:30 6 8
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Great to see so many new faces there, nice one Eddie.
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26/11/2020 11:20:58 10 2
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Yes, after 50 minutes, when the Welsh forwards are blowing out of their fundaments, they'll kook up and see Genge, Cowan-Dickie, Stuart, Hill, Earl and Willis stripping off. Wonder what they'll think about Eddie's selection policy?
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26/11/2020 11:21:35 5 4
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It’s a risk for sure and, admittedly, takes the pressure off Wales completely. They are a team in transition, so a loss is no big problem. A win however is a brilliant achievement against a 95% full strength England and makes us look a bit silly! Nervous already
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26/11/2020 11:31:21 4 2
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Looking forward to hearing from you on Sunday vv :)
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26/11/2020 11:18:10 3 1
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Great squad. Cant wait to see Earl & Willis springed from the bench.
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26/11/2020 13:10:19 6 2
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Sprung
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26/11/2020 11:18:16 4 3
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About as strong a side as they could put out right now. Big test for what will be an inexperienced Welsh side. More than a little worried.
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26/11/2020 11:18:48 93 18
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Is it just me that thinks it is completely mental that Jones persists with Joseph on the wing now Watson is fit?!
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26/11/2020 11:24:44 16 5
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With you on that one.
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26/11/2020 11:25:42 8 3
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He's clearly got some plan involving Joseph having a roving role. We saw it for Daly's try. Ultimately, Watson will be back in.
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26/11/2020 11:34:17 9 1
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Sort of....but if you watch JJ he comes inside in broken play so I think EJ has a plan for him.
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Bob
26/11/2020 11:39:56 9 1
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Mental that Thorley was never given a chance when Watson and Nowell have been injured. What more does he have to do?
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26/11/2020 11:48:11 2 2
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Joseph has a massive influence on England's defensive shape. If we can build a lead we can see what Watson can do. Perhaps Watson will start once he has this appearance under his belt.
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26/11/2020 12:10:15 2 1
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Yes on the basis only just back from injury, so give him 20 minutes in the second half. We could do with him V France if we win on Saturday?
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Cam
26/11/2020 14:14:01 5 2
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Watson should be at f/b with Daly on the wing, however your overall point is spot on.
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26/11/2020 14:26:32 1 2
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Better still have Watson as FB in place of Dilly Daly
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26/11/2020 14:57:08 3 0
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Joseph brings a similar style of play to Jason Robinson, or Kolbe IMO. can create space in a really small area. Though love to see Watson on the wing for his flat out pace. Should be an open game - cant wait.
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26/11/2020 14:59:57 0 0
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I think it's Jones with his idea of having versatility everywhere (and giving JJ gametime there) - reckon we will see JJ appearing in between Slade & Farell quite a bit.
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26/11/2020 18:26:37 3 0
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If you watch closely, rather than the standards left and right wings, they’ve been using May as an “open side” wing, and Joseph on the blind side, who drifts from the blind side into his usual centre position as an extra runner the opposition have to defend against. It’s actually a really interesting tactic.
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26/11/2020 21:54:31 0 0
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Can’t say mental
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27/11/2020 08:50:04 0 0
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Wholeheartedly agree.
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27/11/2020 08:57:24 0 0
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Maybe EJ knows better - Maybe 11 is out and out wing, maybe EJ see's the 14 position as Wing centre, North at 11 was his best position, Adams at 11 the same, North moves to 14 and everyone expects the same results.

Marchant went to NZ super rugby as a centre and ended up playing on the wing at 14.
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27/11/2020 10:27:31 0 1
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And young's at 9 is too slow to breakdown then steps sideways far too often before delivering, a quicker 9 would speed up and put pressure on opposition backs instead of allowing them to set their defence up
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26/11/2020 11:19:01 48 4
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What a Bench!
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26/11/2020 18:39:49 1 0
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Yeah what would I do for a 23 of that quality......
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26/11/2020 11:19:34 5 4
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Other than the flankers and the full-back, this is pretty much a team straight of 2016. Jones has plenty of time to re-develop the squad, but if his priority is to win this competition and the Six Nations in 2021, they need to make a big statement and notch a big win.

Wales are always a challenge for England but they are at the beginning of a long redevelopment and should be there for the taking.
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26/11/2020 11:20:22 4 1
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Looking forward to a cracking game between old rivals!
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26/11/2020 11:20:45 5 1
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Looks like Jones is going to try Earl in the backline at some stage.
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26/11/2020 11:33:52 18 1
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Sam Simmons could do it. Did you see that try he scored against Quins at the weekend?
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26/11/2020 14:33:04 0 0
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I wouldn't read too much into that except all teams put forwards in backs esp off lineouts and almost 100% of the time its crash ball, however its seems Earl may be given the option to pass now and then.
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26/11/2020 15:37:14 0 0
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If that's the case I'm surprised he doesn't try out Sam Simmonds at inside center.
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26/11/2020 11:17:30 6 8
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Great to see so many new faces there, nice one Eddie.
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26/11/2020 11:20:58 10 2
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Yes, after 50 minutes, when the Welsh forwards are blowing out of their fundaments, they'll kook up and see Genge, Cowan-Dickie, Stuart, Hill, Earl and Willis stripping off. Wonder what they'll think about Eddie's selection policy?
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26/11/2020 18:40:23 0 1
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Amazing... That lot stripping off doing a version of the full monty and itoje doing his breakdancing celebrations at every scrum the arts could well be saved after all by the end of this game. I like it Brimmzy!
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26/11/2020 11:21:32 17 9
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OMG, we will be slaughtered. That is some team England have there.
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26/11/2020 11:46:31 40 4
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As an England supporter, I know to NEVER write off the Welsh. This could be closer than you think. Even if England manage a lead, they switch off at half time and always concede points in the first few minutes. In the last 20 mins the discipline invariably goes and if the Welsh get momentum England will be in trouble again. Let's hope for a good game.
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26/11/2020 12:48:56 1 1
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If past England Grand Slam deciders are anything to go by I wouldn’t bank on it
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26/11/2020 11:17:30 6 8
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Great to see so many new faces there, nice one Eddie.
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26/11/2020 11:21:35 5 4
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It’s a risk for sure and, admittedly, takes the pressure off Wales completely. They are a team in transition, so a loss is no big problem. A win however is a brilliant achievement against a 95% full strength England and makes us look a bit silly! Nervous already
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26/11/2020 11:27:34 5 1
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The philosophy is the one the ABs use. Namely, we might mix and match against Tier 2 or 3 opposition, but if you want a cap against Tier 1 then you've got to earn it. Wales are still, as we speak at least, Tier 1.
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26/11/2020 11:22:22 11 4
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Not a fan of a 5:2 split on the bench and would have had Watson staring either FB or wing vvales must be the little green eyed monster
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26/11/2020 11:25:59 4 8
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Just trying to work out how much the team has changed from the great S lancaster's days.
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Dad
26/11/2020 12:25:02 2 1
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Neither am I. See no reason not to use the full 23 players available.
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26/11/2020 12:29:53 0 7
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I’d definitely have Watson at Fb . Daley a accident waiting to happen . Never breaks a first tackle and even looks nervy .
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26/11/2020 11:23:20 9 3
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Only real surprise is Watson on the bench.
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26/11/2020 11:23:27 1 1
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I'm sure we could get a 5th centre in there, no?
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26/11/2020 11:51:28 4 1
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:-) Yep, I would like to see Daly get one game for England in his preferred (and best) position. Watson or Malins at FB. Can't see it happening though although Daly still looks nothing like a FB.
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26/11/2020 12:41:59 0 1
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Slade at FB, Daly and Joseph wings, Farrell and Marchant/Lawrence/Tuilagi in the centres. He'd probably do it if May and Watson were both injured.
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BIJ
26/11/2020 11:23:36 2 8
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Total lack of adventure in the side unless May can somehow get hold of the ball before Farrell or Youngs boot it downfield.
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26/11/2020 11:26:37 4 1
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we'll see.
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26/11/2020 11:23:40 6 4
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Vvwales... a touch dull, the tournament started with new faces, they are now just dovetailing with the old... it’s what a good transition should be... Seamless, you don’t realise they are being integrated. Unlike Wales where they just add you to a team a few days before the match as per Botham, I know which format I would prefer to have.
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26/11/2020 11:24:08 56 2
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Please please please ... at some stage we might see Billy V get a rest and Curry move to 8 with Willis and Underhill either side. Carnage!
Watson on a fullback not too shabby either.
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26/11/2020 11:28:41 26 4
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That would be unfair on other teams...they'd never get the ball, especially if Itoje and Launchbury were playing!
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26/11/2020 12:07:54 12 1
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Give Billy a rest by all means (and I think he needs to EARN his place once more) and I love our current 6/7 options but can't we have a dedicated No8 - there are one or two of them out there .....
Simmonds
Dombrandt
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26/11/2020 12:56:44 3 3
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Still don’t understand why the most dynamic No8 around is not playing or at the very least in the squad. What does Sam Skinner have to do
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26/11/2020 14:16:09 1 0
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Very good comment, I'm happy with the Farrel Slade centre combination, just hope complacency doesn't creep in with the team
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26/11/2020 19:03:18 0 0
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Earl to 8 - stronger option at the base
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26/11/2020 19:06:11 3 1
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Sam Simmonds often plays alongside a beefy 6 or 7 in Ewers and Vermuelen/Amand to supplement his lack of size.

With Curry and Underhill playing i cant see there being the correct balance for Simmonds to play. And both Curry and Underhill are better flanker than simmonds is
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26/11/2020 22:01:30 0 0
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Sam Simmonds????
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26/11/2020 22:01:33 0 0
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After a week on Saturday, Billy is going to get a rest for at least a month and maybe even until the 2021 Six Nations if the Championship don't sort themselves out. Ditto for Mako, George, Itoje, Farrell and Daly.
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27/11/2020 02:23:50 1 0
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I think Jack Willis’ brother might have something to say for himself soon...
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26/11/2020 11:18:48 93 18
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Is it just me that thinks it is completely mental that Jones persists with Joseph on the wing now Watson is fit?!
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26/11/2020 11:24:44 16 5
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With you on that one.
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26/11/2020 11:25:00 3 1
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Tried and tested. No puns intended.
12 from the WCF starting 15.
Would have liked Robson to start at least, experienced backup to 8, 9, (and 10 if Farrell is going to be 12) needed.
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26/11/2020 11:18:48 93 18
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Is it just me that thinks it is completely mental that Jones persists with Joseph on the wing now Watson is fit?!
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26/11/2020 11:25:42 8 3
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He's clearly got some plan involving Joseph having a roving role. We saw it for Daly's try. Ultimately, Watson will be back in.
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26/11/2020 12:05:28 1 12
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A plan, based off one try against a tier 3 side... Sure
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26/11/2020 11:22:22 11 4
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Not a fan of a 5:2 split on the bench and would have had Watson staring either FB or wing vvales must be the little green eyed monster
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26/11/2020 11:25:59 4 8
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Just trying to work out how much the team has changed from the great S lancaster's days.
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26/11/2020 11:32:54 3 1
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Only 8 of the 23 against Wales in the 2015 RWC are in this 23.
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26/11/2020 12:11:52 10 1
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Changed more than the record you keep playing, thats for sure.
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26/11/2020 12:26:02 2 1
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It wins games!
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26/11/2020 11:26:14 1 2
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6-2 split on the bench I wonder where England’s attacking emphasis will be.Might be a bit boring as neither side is comfortable in possession and much prefer to attack from broken play caused by good defence.
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26/11/2020 11:26:20 2 1
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Only 2 backs on the bench - will we see a flanker on the wing if there are injuries. Risky approach
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26/11/2020 11:50:31 1 1
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Fair point but Wales barely get the ball beyond Inside centre. So should not be a defensive problem............ i hope.
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26/11/2020 11:51:30 0 1
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Wales should adopt some hard crunching legal tackles to the backs, see if a forward will need to be used in the backs.
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26/11/2020 11:26:28 0 1
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Only 2 backs on the bench, so EJ going all out for forwards dominance. With such versatility amongst the starting backs it’s a (slight) risk worth taking
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BIJ
26/11/2020 11:23:36 2 8
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Total lack of adventure in the side unless May can somehow get hold of the ball before Farrell or Youngs boot it downfield.
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26/11/2020 11:26:37 4 1
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we'll see.
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26/11/2020 11:26:45 29 7
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Daly at full back. How many high balls does he catch cleanly? He seems to muff quite a few (unlike Jonny May).
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26/11/2020 12:12:17 10 6
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Most of them, which is a terrible stat for a FULL BACK
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26/11/2020 13:03:01 3 3
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He misses a lot of tackles as well
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26/11/2020 13:11:37 10 2
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But he fits Jones' gameplan better than anyone else. No other fullback has a boot like Daly's, and he's left footed. Jones picks players for his gameplan, he doesn't take those rated by pundits as best for each position and then work out a gameplan.
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26/11/2020 13:36:56 5 3
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I think it is unfair to criticise his catching these days, as based on recent performances his work under the high ball has improved enormously. I was one of the first to rant at the TV during his first few matches at 15, and whilst he isn't yet the best international in that position, he is certainly not a liability and worth persisting with!
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Cam
26/11/2020 14:17:13 1 2
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Watson is a far better f/b & the majority of fans, pundits, commentators...etc are in accord. However EJ thinks he knows better & has some, as yet, unfounded love of Daly there.
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26/11/2020 21:39:22 3 0
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The continued criticisms of Daly are absurd. His stats on tackles and the high ball are brilliant, he is (with the exception of Nowell) the best broken play runner in the England side, his kicking is outrageous, and he can cover every back position from 11–15. He is also the best reader of the game, and the best organiser in the backs, and has twice the rugby brain of Slade or Farrell.
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26/11/2020 11:27:07 6 11
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It will be clear for all to see why Youngs will not go on the Lions tour and should not play for England. He will be outplayed by both Welsh scrum halves
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26/11/2020 11:35:11 5 2
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'He will be outplayed by both Welsh scrum halves'

You mean the way Aaron Smith outplayed him?
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26/11/2020 11:49:11 1 1
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I sympathise, as I've also been a vocal critic of Youngs because of his predictability. However, to be fair to the man, he has made a couple of line breaks in his last two matches, so perhaps Eddie has given him more flexibility. Scrum halves who do nothing but box kick or pass the ball down the line make it easy for the opposition. They need to snipe occasionally to keep them on their toes.
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26/11/2020 12:41:26 4 1
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EJ does not pick on favoritism he is ruthless. Whatever any of us think about Youngs he does exactly what EJ wants him to do and well otherwise he wouldn't be there

He speed of delivery is exactly what he is told to do otherwise it would be different

As said in a recent article (Welsh I think) he may not be the best 9 in England but he is the best 9 to do what EJ wants him to do
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26/11/2020 13:37:06 1 0
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Youngs was man of the match last time England played Wales.
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26/11/2020 11:21:35 5 4
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It’s a risk for sure and, admittedly, takes the pressure off Wales completely. They are a team in transition, so a loss is no big problem. A win however is a brilliant achievement against a 95% full strength England and makes us look a bit silly! Nervous already
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26/11/2020 11:27:34 5 1
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The philosophy is the one the ABs use. Namely, we might mix and match against Tier 2 or 3 opposition, but if you want a cap against Tier 1 then you've got to earn it. Wales are still, as we speak at least, Tier 1.
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26/11/2020 11:24:08 56 2
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Please please please ... at some stage we might see Billy V get a rest and Curry move to 8 with Willis and Underhill either side. Carnage!
Watson on a fullback not too shabby either.
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26/11/2020 11:28:41 26 4
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That would be unfair on other teams...they'd never get the ball, especially if Itoje and Launchbury were playing!
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26/11/2020 11:29:12 33 3
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Joseph is still not a winger. Must be so frustrating for better wingers not to get in the team. The difference between Joseph and May is huge. Not to say Joseph is a bad player, just his strengths don't really lend itself to wing.
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26/11/2020 11:37:35 8 8
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With Joseph playing England have kicking options from every player in the backline
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26/11/2020 22:11:03 1 0
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He is an excellent defender which is what England are focused on.
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I am very, very concerned.....very concerned, where is Steve D? How can anyone possibly understand this selection without his inputs? Steve, mate, best bud your country needs you now get typing asap! Removed
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26/11/2020 11:17:30 6 8
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Great to see so many new faces there, nice one Eddie.
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26/11/2020 11:31:21 4 2
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Looking forward to hearing from you on Sunday vv :)
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26/11/2020 11:31:46 1 2
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above all else ford -focus.
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26/11/2020 11:17:04 54 4
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That was always likely given that Lawrence is injured.

Slade is a superb O/C and Ford should give the backline a bit more urgency. If the forwards can get the "go-forward" he should thrive.

Looks to be a good game with fair(ish) weather.
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26/11/2020 11:31:50 20 9
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England look more imaginative with him at 10, but Farrell does have better game management. I imagine they expect good go forward tomorrow so Ford is a good shout imo
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26/11/2020 15:42:21 4 1
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I don't agree that Farrell has better game management. It is OK as long as all is going to plan but it falls apart when things get awkward.
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26/11/2020 17:56:05 2 0
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You're right and this team barring a couple of changes is the one that played against New Zealand in the semis last year. It hardly needs pointing out that Fords game management in that game was better than any by Farrell either before or since.. Eddie just loves Owen, in fact he seems to be infatuated by him.I thinks he's a better 2nd 5/8 than 1st. Lets see how it goes ay.
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26/11/2020 11:32:04 10 4
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A good choice, especially the bench. I know the Welsh will be rampant and they expect a 30 point victory but I think its could be much closer.
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LH
26/11/2020 14:23:08 5 3
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Yes, Wales did 'well' against Georgia! Shame they didn't play the WHOLE of the USA, and not just ONE state!!!!
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26/11/2020 16:01:54 1 0
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Speak check appears to have put rampant in instead of any of the following: weak, beaten, spanked, embarrassed, awful, cheating...
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26/11/2020 16:02:14 1 0
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That'll be spell check, how ironic
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26/11/2020 11:25:59 4 8
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Just trying to work out how much the team has changed from the great S lancaster's days.
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26/11/2020 11:32:54 3 1
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Only 8 of the 23 against Wales in the 2015 RWC are in this 23.
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26/11/2020 11:33:08 3 1
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10 world class players in there. Eddie Jones is going for a big score. We are in for a tough afternoon. I just hope we can hold on and make it a good game.

If the next few years turns out as I expect, could this lead to another overall of Welsh domestic rugby. Gatland papered over the cracks.
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26/11/2020 11:43:16 3 1
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or perhaps another apron of welsh domestic rugby?
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26/11/2020 19:12:02 0 0
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Welsh regional game is so week & only 4 of them, versus 12 Premiership & much stronger
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26/11/2020 11:33:10 4 2
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I would expect this backline to struggle to find fluidity and cohesiveness - but I still expect us to win as long as our pack continues to dominate as they have done in recent games. That said, playing England is always a cup final for Wales, so we will need to be sharp.
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26/11/2020 11:33:48 2 13
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Ford is not England Standard. Danny C for me is a much more creative and better half back
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26/11/2020 11:35:47 7 3
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Genius. They play in two different positions
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26/11/2020 11:36:17 4 1
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Danny C completely unpredictable as well, not something anyone needs in a flyhalf. International rugby is not about just chucking the ball around and pulling rabbits out of hats
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26/11/2020 11:36:29 4 1
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You cannot be serious
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26/11/2020 11:51:52 1 1
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Still belting on about that old has been at least 3 players in front of him.
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26/11/2020 12:03:48 3 1
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Ford has shown he is international standard time and time again . Cipriani failed at the highest level . Good player but he's got about 6 fly- halves in front of him now.
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26/11/2020 11:20:45 5 1
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Looks like Jones is going to try Earl in the backline at some stage.
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26/11/2020 11:33:52 18 1
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Sam Simmons could do it. Did you see that try he scored against Quins at the weekend?
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26/11/2020 11:18:48 93 18
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Is it just me that thinks it is completely mental that Jones persists with Joseph on the wing now Watson is fit?!
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26/11/2020 11:34:17 9 1
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Sort of....but if you watch JJ he comes inside in broken play so I think EJ has a plan for him.
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26/11/2020 15:13:26 1 0
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JJ has been doing exactly what Nowell does, namely come off his wing and get involved - "looking for work" as the pundits call it. Both them in their different ways have a great ability to get past the first defender and put the defence under pressure by making it turn. When Nowell is fit again, I think JJ will go back to the centre, where his abilities will still be very valuable
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26/11/2020 11:17:04 54 4
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That was always likely given that Lawrence is injured.

Slade is a superb O/C and Ford should give the backline a bit more urgency. If the forwards can get the "go-forward" he should thrive.

Looks to be a good game with fair(ish) weather.
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26/11/2020 11:35:08 1 11
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Slade is a good O/C for club but struggles at international level without Tuilagi inside him creating the space that he needs. Would love to be proved wrong on Saturday but that's the evidence we've seen to date
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26/11/2020 12:11:59 10 3
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I think most of that is a lack of speed recycling the ball from the base of a breakdown as Youngs especially seem to stop for a split second rather than a fast paced delivery, making sure they limited mistakes which reduces attacking flair. I don't think he misses Tuilagi as much as Nowell for giving him a bit more broken field space.
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26/11/2020 13:19:05 8 2
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No it isn't. Slade is a top class centre and thoroughly deserves his place.
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26/11/2020 11:27:07 6 11
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It will be clear for all to see why Youngs will not go on the Lions tour and should not play for England. He will be outplayed by both Welsh scrum halves
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26/11/2020 11:35:11 5 2
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'He will be outplayed by both Welsh scrum halves'

You mean the way Aaron Smith outplayed him?
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26/11/2020 11:44:52 2 3
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No, the way Far de Klerk did!
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26/11/2020 11:35:13 7 3
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England huge favourites, but they'd never pick a weakened side against Wales. Think they'll be looking to make a statement.
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26/11/2020 11:50:03 22 3
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Judging by the selections this Autumn EJ never fields a weakened side if he can help it,would have liked to have seen Marler in just to wind AWJ and Lee up.
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27/11/2020 08:43:18 0 0
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Remember England winning comfortably in Cardiff with a line up consisting almost entirely of reserves. Believe it was in the early 2000s or thereabouts.
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26/11/2020 11:33:48 2 13
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Ford is not England Standard. Danny C for me is a much more creative and better half back
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26/11/2020 11:35:47 7 3
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Genius. They play in two different positions
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26/11/2020 11:40:23 6 1
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Think he means Cipriani, not Care
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26/11/2020 12:09:39 1 1
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I think he meant Danny Cipriani not Care so they do play in the same position
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26/11/2020 11:33:48 2 13
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Ford is not England Standard. Danny C for me is a much more creative and better half back
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26/11/2020 11:36:17 4 1
bbc
Danny C completely unpredictable as well, not something anyone needs in a flyhalf. International rugby is not about just chucking the ball around and pulling rabbits out of hats
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26/11/2020 11:33:48 2 13
bbc
Ford is not England Standard. Danny C for me is a much more creative and better half back
49
26/11/2020 11:36:29 4 1
bbc
You cannot be serious
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26/11/2020 11:29:12 33 3
bbc
Joseph is still not a winger. Must be so frustrating for better wingers not to get in the team. The difference between Joseph and May is huge. Not to say Joseph is a bad player, just his strengths don't really lend itself to wing.
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26/11/2020 11:37:35 8 8
bbc
With Joseph playing England have kicking options from every player in the backline
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26/11/2020 11:40:37 7 2
bbc
for one, you don't need all the backs to be kicking options. 9, 10, 15 and maybe 12. also, joseph can't kick - did you see the slice at the weekend?
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26/11/2020 12:11:09 4 4
bbc
How utterly boring a that is as a positive
364
26/11/2020 14:29:48 2 0
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Surely England will not be kicking most of the ball on Sat (again)
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27/11/2020 08:36:16 0 0
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Joseph did a truly awful kick against Ireland.
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26/11/2020 11:37:48 3 4
bbc
I really hope that Wales are able to re establish their undoubted skills and are able to play an expansive game. However, against a defensive set up like England that might not be possible. I just hope that this game is more open than the England v Ireland.Jones tends to be too defensive for my taste.
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26/11/2020 11:42:58 4 3
bbc
'I really hope that Wales are able to re establish their undoubted skills...'

When were these last on show? During the 2019 6 Nations when they won it but had the worst stats for tries; line breaks; metres made and carries? Or the RWC when they stunk the place up with their rugby? Or the 2020 6 Nations when they beat only Italy?
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26/11/2020 11:46:03 1 2
bbc
What like under Gatland all out defence and hope for mistakes.Mind you that’s better than the current selection policy,which seems like who do we pick in a panic.What a scintillating attacking display against Georgia.
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Mal
26/11/2020 12:01:18 1 1
bbc
Jones is addressing the problem that England encountered in the WC final.
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26/11/2020 11:18:48 93 18
bbc
Is it just me that thinks it is completely mental that Jones persists with Joseph on the wing now Watson is fit?!
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Bob
26/11/2020 11:39:56 9 1
bbc
Mental that Thorley was never given a chance when Watson and Nowell have been injured. What more does he have to do?
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26/11/2020 14:28:59 2 0
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Yeah agreed- would love to see Thorley have a go in the final game or at worst in the Six Nations next year. Not quite sure why he’s been held back- I get it, lack of experience etc, but how get you really get decent exposure at test level unless you are chucked in at the deep end?!
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26/11/2020 11:35:47 7 3
bbc
Genius. They play in two different positions
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26/11/2020 11:40:23 6 1
bbc
Think he means Cipriani, not Care
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26/11/2020 19:12:57 0 0
bbc
Or La Rue?
Removed
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26/11/2020 11:37:35 8 8
bbc
With Joseph playing England have kicking options from every player in the backline
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26/11/2020 11:40:37 7 2
bbc
for one, you don't need all the backs to be kicking options. 9, 10, 15 and maybe 12. also, joseph can't kick - did you see the slice at the weekend?
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26/11/2020 12:01:27 7 3
bbc
that was one miskick in 1 game . Like saying Wilkinson couldn't kick because he missed a penalty .
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26/11/2020 11:40:59 1 2
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I thought that when Eddie was winding everyone up over the ‘hybrid’ players that he was actually thinking about a 6-2 split with Earl as a contingency winger.
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Bob
26/11/2020 11:42:53 19 3
bbc
Willis at the break down when the welsh are tired. Now i'm looking forward to that!

Wish we could see Malins and Thorley but we don't get everything we want.
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26/11/2020 12:20:16 8 1
bbc
With the ridiculous replacement rules teams do not get tired any more.
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26/11/2020 15:01:58 0 0
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Just hope Malins plays for The Bears Saturday! There time will come - building a great squad with backup everywhere
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26/11/2020 11:37:48 3 4
bbc
I really hope that Wales are able to re establish their undoubted skills and are able to play an expansive game. However, against a defensive set up like England that might not be possible. I just hope that this game is more open than the England v Ireland.Jones tends to be too defensive for my taste.
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26/11/2020 11:42:58 4 3
bbc
'I really hope that Wales are able to re establish their undoubted skills...'

When were these last on show? During the 2019 6 Nations when they won it but had the worst stats for tries; line breaks; metres made and carries? Or the RWC when they stunk the place up with their rugby? Or the 2020 6 Nations when they beat only Italy?
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26/11/2020 12:21:26 0 1
bbc
Thats the old “moral victory” line being brought out in advance there, Brimmers.
Hasn’t taken some very long to forget all about the glorious all-court game Warrenball/Edwards was.
He’s lost something like 9 on the bounce back down in NZ, incidentally.
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26/11/2020 11:33:08 3 1
bbc
10 world class players in there. Eddie Jones is going for a big score. We are in for a tough afternoon. I just hope we can hold on and make it a good game.

If the next few years turns out as I expect, could this lead to another overall of Welsh domestic rugby. Gatland papered over the cracks.
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26/11/2020 11:43:16 3 1
bbc
or perhaps another apron of welsh domestic rugby?
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26/11/2020 11:43:35 2 2
bbc
Now we might see some rugby by England at least - hooray

Plan B and C perhaps
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26/11/2020 11:43:36 5 5
bbc
Why? Forwards look top class, so why have centres playing at wing and f.b. Ford f.h? This combination will do OK against Wales, no disrespect, but E.J. will keep losing at the highest level by denying the obvious faults in his dogma. B.V deserves a rest as well. ????
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26/11/2020 12:06:27 4 2
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You make it sound like it’s an experiment. We’ve been playing Daly at FB for ages.
JJ on the wing, ok, I’d prefer AW there (prefer AW more at 15, tbh) and I just about prefer JJ to Slade at 13, but JJ is class and has a great step, so I can’t agree with the “but he’s not a winger” brigade.
Why the question about Ford at FH?
Anyway, enjoy the game. ??
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26/11/2020 11:44:42 8 8
bbc
Two backs as replacement is not a concern at all. Ford, Farrell, Daley, Slade and Joseph can cover all eventualities with Watson also in the mix. Let's hope both scrum halves stay fit. Oh, let's not forget, Johnnie May can cover for the back row. England should be too good for a very unfit set of forwards led by Captain Mainwar-wyn Jones who will be miles off the pace.......Again!
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26/11/2020 11:58:56 5 11
bbc
Excellent. This is the type of message we Welsh love - the English being overconfident again. This has happened on so many occasions - and we Welsh always turn up for this match and beat you. Too cocky mate. Just you wait.
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26/11/2020 12:00:59 2 6
bbc
Wales need to use some tactics, as they don't have the player base or population to even be contenders (or shouldnt be). Some legal hard crunching tackles to the backs, see if they can get a forward in the backs, also wind up hot heads like sinklair and farrel. Let's hope the officials see underhils consistent offside as he was against Ireland.officials also keep an eye on farrels no arms tackling
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26/11/2020 11:35:11 5 2
bbc
'He will be outplayed by both Welsh scrum halves'

You mean the way Aaron Smith outplayed him?
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26/11/2020 11:44:52 2 3
bbc
No, the way Far de Klerk did!
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26/11/2020 12:04:59 2 2
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Either way, he's got nothing to fear from the Welsh scrum halves.
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26/11/2020 11:37:48 3 4
bbc
I really hope that Wales are able to re establish their undoubted skills and are able to play an expansive game. However, against a defensive set up like England that might not be possible. I just hope that this game is more open than the England v Ireland.Jones tends to be too defensive for my taste.
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26/11/2020 11:46:03 1 2
bbc
What like under Gatland all out defence and hope for mistakes.Mind you that’s better than the current selection policy,which seems like who do we pick in a panic.What a scintillating attacking display against Georgia.
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26/11/2020 11:21:32 17 9
bbc
OMG, we will be slaughtered. That is some team England have there.
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26/11/2020 11:46:31 40 4
bbc
As an England supporter, I know to NEVER write off the Welsh. This could be closer than you think. Even if England manage a lead, they switch off at half time and always concede points in the first few minutes. In the last 20 mins the discipline invariably goes and if the Welsh get momentum England will be in trouble again. Let's hope for a good game.
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LH
26/11/2020 14:24:04 0 0
bbc
It will be close ... at the START of the Test, when the scores are 0-0!!
27/11/2020 22:35:30 0 0
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Mmmmm
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26/11/2020 11:46:57 15 3
bbc
Wales need to be picking from as near as possible to a full squad at the moment to trouble England. Way too many injuries. Pivac's coaching may be compounding the situation, but an injury list of Anscombe, Moriarty, Owens, Ellis Jenkins, Jon Davies, Rob Evans (just back but little game time), Josh Navidi, Tomas Williams (as Evans) and now Justin Tipuric is too much for the squad to cope with.
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26/11/2020 16:56:16 1 0
bbc
WalesOnline have an article about a superb lot of players who haven't even been picked.
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26/11/2020 11:18:48 93 18
bbc
Is it just me that thinks it is completely mental that Jones persists with Joseph on the wing now Watson is fit?!
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26/11/2020 11:48:11 2 2
bbc
Joseph has a massive influence on England's defensive shape. If we can build a lead we can see what Watson can do. Perhaps Watson will start once he has this appearance under his belt.
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26/11/2020 12:54:03 1 5
bbc
The thing for me is that Joseph had a pretty poor game last week, particularly in terms of the wing elements (chasing and receiving kicks).
He is a class player but not a winger imho.
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26/11/2020 11:48:53 2 1
bbc
Putting eggs in one basket. Forward dominance leading to control of territory and possession is a good recipe. It'll probably work this time as Wales haven't given any evidence that they will match England up front. It will be interesting to see if Pivac has learned any lessons from the Ireland mauling and able to select team that can compete and not peddling backwards all game.
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26/11/2020 11:50:25 3 2
bbc
We can't do it mate. Too may injuries. Be a miracle if we get close.
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26/11/2020 11:27:07 6 11
bbc
It will be clear for all to see why Youngs will not go on the Lions tour and should not play for England. He will be outplayed by both Welsh scrum halves
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26/11/2020 11:49:11 1 1
bbc
I sympathise, as I've also been a vocal critic of Youngs because of his predictability. However, to be fair to the man, he has made a couple of line breaks in his last two matches, so perhaps Eddie has given him more flexibility. Scrum halves who do nothing but box kick or pass the ball down the line make it easy for the opposition. They need to snipe occasionally to keep them on their toes.
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26/11/2020 11:35:13 7 3
bbc
England huge favourites, but they'd never pick a weakened side against Wales. Think they'll be looking to make a statement.
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26/11/2020 11:50:03 22 3
bbc
Judging by the selections this Autumn EJ never fields a weakened side if he can help it,would have liked to have seen Marler in just to wind AWJ and Lee up.
377
26/11/2020 14:41:11 1 5
bbc
That is not funny. Marler was an idiot on both occasions!! I can imagine the outcry if a Welsh player had done it
485
26/11/2020 15:58:24 1 1
bbc
Racist comments and groping someone's genitals? Yeah, just the type of character I want representing my country.......
68
26/11/2020 11:48:53 2 1
bbc
Putting eggs in one basket. Forward dominance leading to control of territory and possession is a good recipe. It'll probably work this time as Wales haven't given any evidence that they will match England up front. It will be interesting to see if Pivac has learned any lessons from the Ireland mauling and able to select team that can compete and not peddling backwards all game.
71
26/11/2020 11:50:25 3 2
bbc
We can't do it mate. Too may injuries. Be a miracle if we get close.
25
26/11/2020 11:26:20 2 1
bbc
Only 2 backs on the bench - will we see a flanker on the wing if there are injuries. Risky approach
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26/11/2020 11:50:31 1 1
bbc
Fair point but Wales barely get the ball beyond Inside centre. So should not be a defensive problem............ i hope.
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26/11/2020 11:23:27 1 1
bbc
I'm sure we could get a 5th centre in there, no?
73
26/11/2020 11:51:28 4 1
bbc
:-) Yep, I would like to see Daly get one game for England in his preferred (and best) position. Watson or Malins at FB. Can't see it happening though although Daly still looks nothing like a FB.
25
26/11/2020 11:26:20 2 1
bbc
Only 2 backs on the bench - will we see a flanker on the wing if there are injuries. Risky approach
74
26/11/2020 11:51:30 0 1
bbc
Wales should adopt some hard crunching legal tackles to the backs, see if a forward will need to be used in the backs.
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26/11/2020 11:51:41 24 3
bbc
That's one strong starting XV from EJ. Glad to see he's going for tried and tested for this potential banana skin. True, Wales have looked a bit toothless of late, but the form book goes out of the window when the Red Rose are in town.
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26/11/2020 19:01:27 5 0
bbc
Agreed.
Seen it all before. As soon as we think England are a sure thing, along comes that banana skin!
41
26/11/2020 11:33:48 2 13
bbc
Ford is not England Standard. Danny C for me is a much more creative and better half back
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26/11/2020 11:51:52 1 1
bbc
Still belting on about that old has been at least 3 players in front of him.
77
26/11/2020 11:52:35 1 3
bbc
you can't play the game without the ball
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26/11/2020 12:58:38 2 1
bbc
That's what England do.....and still manage comfortable wins.
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26/11/2020 13:36:01 1 0
bbc
That would be incorrect!! Rugby is a territory game not a possession game. The best teams are happy to play with as little as 30% possession. When Sarries dismantled Leinster in the european final, they has 32% possession.
78
26/11/2020 11:53:30 1 13
bbc
I know there is a lot of excitement amongst the English fans but let’s not lose sight of the fact that without curry, underhill, Willis and Launchbury this england team would be average at best.
85
26/11/2020 11:57:39 7 1
bbc
Let's not lose sight that a below average Ireland beat Wales - so average will be more than enough for the job.
87
26/11/2020 11:58:22 8 1
bbc
Take 4 of the best players out of any team and they wont be as good. Amazing insight, thanks.
90
26/11/2020 12:00:07 2 1
bbc
lol, we're six nations champions & unbeaten so far. You struggled to beat Georgia, you Welsh really do have some coconuts.
91
26/11/2020 12:00:46 4 1
bbc
What's your point? I think the majority of world class teams across all sports would be far weaker if you took four of their best players out of the team
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26/11/2020 12:02:44 3 1
bbc
There's a lot of fear amongst vvales that Curry, Underhill, Willis and Launchbury are playing :)
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26/11/2020 12:13:07 2 1
bbc
What a curious comment. Well below the standard of your usual WUMming. This just makes you sound polite and ignorant.
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26/11/2020 12:46:00 1 1
bbc
If you look closely you will see Willis isn't starting
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26/11/2020 15:33:56 0 0
bbc
That for a change is an amusing comment and set your second comment up perfectly knowing many would jump on it... it’s true injuries don’t help. Especially when the Welsh playing pool is so shallow. Plus the Welsh have been woeful at transitioning. And I think Garland should shoulder some of the blame
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26/11/2020 11:54:15 0 4
bbc
England will not change their approach, interesting to see if Wales want to take on the English pack in an arm wrestle.
I hope they choose not to and revert to playing to their strengths and playing off the cuff and with a little flair. This is when the Welsh scare the living daylights out of the English.
Hope for a good game though, the Ireland game was a little sterile apart from May.
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26/11/2020 12:01:29 11 3
bbc
'I hope they choose not to and revert to playing to their strengths and playing off the cuff and with a little flair.'

Have you been in cryogenic suspension since 1974?
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Gaz
26/11/2020 11:54:19 3 3
bbc
Wales long injury list will tell. If the english forwards dont dominate then lightwight Ford wont have any impact. Vice versa Ford may be lucky enough to feed off gaps made by the english forwards. England to win by over 20 points.
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26/11/2020 11:54:39 36 3
bbc
Good to see Lloyd Williams get his place after he came on against Ireland. He is the only player from the Welsh team who would get in the England squad, but having said that , so would Gareth Davies and Rhys Webb.
As an Englishman I hope Wales give a good account of themselves for the memory of Ray Prosser a Pontypool and Welsh great. RIP Ray.
Burn in hell Ray ! Removed
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26/11/2020 15:24:19 7 0
bbc
Although I too am English, I went to school in Pontypool and spent a lot of my spare time on the terrace at Pontypool Park, watching the Viet Gwent battering their opponents. Ray Prosser was a much respected man in Welsh Rugby; I hope there will be a chance to honour his memory on Saturday.
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26/11/2020 15:26:01 0 3
bbc
Incorrect
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26/11/2020 15:44:01 0 0
bbc
Alex cuthbert would get in too, as he was born in Gloucester..
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26/11/2020 16:52:55 1 0
bbc
Listen mate. Knowing that lot they cld quite easily win.
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27/11/2020 16:12:56 0 0
bbc
LLoyd Williams is at best 5th choice on ability. Wales are poor at 1,2 5, 6,7, 9,10 the flankers are promising but second choice at cardiff blues if all fit.
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26/11/2020 11:55:06 3 3
bbc
Always thought JJ was one of the top 13s in NH, not sure why he doesn't get a run there, especially with Watson being one of the top wingers around.
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26/11/2020 12:11:40 2 1
bbc
Yeah. Watson FB and JJ at 13 all day long for me. Daly needs a couple of decent games. He’s not been playing well.
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26/11/2020 12:12:45 1 1
bbc
Joseph is definitely best at 13. But so is Slade, and he's our most talented back in my opinion.

Personally, bringing Watson in would make this our strongest backline, and with Joseph on the bench, we'd still have enough versatility to go 6-2 and cope with any injuries in the backs.

But we're all just watching rugby on my sofa, I'm sure Eddie's got his reasons.
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26/11/2020 11:55:18 1 2
bbc
It feels like we are missing opportunities to start some of the squad players and rest frontline for (probably) France. JG, MI, BV could be rested after a busy schedule. EJ has subbed some key roles basically with no time left to experience international rugby. Dunn 2 caps for 2 minutes is a bit of a joke. Robson isn't getting enough game time. A couple of key injuries leaves holes for France.
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26/11/2020 13:40:56 0 0
bbc
Resting the Saracens players for what exactly? Sarries don't even have a fixture list atm. If not selected now they won't play again until the 6N.
84
26/11/2020 11:56:52 6 1
bbc
I think England should play in the away strip. The white shirt always brings out Wales best performance of the season.
528
26/11/2020 16:31:14 1 0
bbc
Use a white shirt for target practice on tackle bags... it works
534
26/11/2020 16:39:36 0 0
bbc
Wales’s best performance of the season would still be worse than mediocre, I’m afraid
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26/11/2020 11:53:30 1 13
bbc
I know there is a lot of excitement amongst the English fans but let’s not lose sight of the fact that without curry, underhill, Willis and Launchbury this england team would be average at best.
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26/11/2020 11:57:39 7 1
bbc
Let's not lose sight that a below average Ireland beat Wales - so average will be more than enough for the job.
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Mal
26/11/2020 11:57:59 4 8
bbc
Itoje average, May average?
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26/11/2020 12:21:48 3 3
bbc
In what world is May average?
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26/11/2020 13:00:12 2 1
bbc
Planet Mal must be a comforting but strange world ??
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26/11/2020 13:43:23 2 0
bbc
A circus is missing its clown.......
78
26/11/2020 11:53:30 1 13
bbc
I know there is a lot of excitement amongst the English fans but let’s not lose sight of the fact that without curry, underhill, Willis and Launchbury this england team would be average at best.
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26/11/2020 11:58:22 8 1
bbc
Take 4 of the best players out of any team and they wont be as good. Amazing insight, thanks.
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26/11/2020 11:44:42 8 8
bbc
Two backs as replacement is not a concern at all. Ford, Farrell, Daley, Slade and Joseph can cover all eventualities with Watson also in the mix. Let's hope both scrum halves stay fit. Oh, let's not forget, Johnnie May can cover for the back row. England should be too good for a very unfit set of forwards led by Captain Mainwar-wyn Jones who will be miles off the pace.......Again!
88
26/11/2020 11:58:56 5 11
bbc
Excellent. This is the type of message we Welsh love - the English being overconfident again. This has happened on so many occasions - and we Welsh always turn up for this match and beat you. Too cocky mate. Just you wait.
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26/11/2020 12:16:54 0 1
bbc
On so many occasions but not so much in the EJ era.
1
26/11/2020 11:17:04 54 4
bbc
That was always likely given that Lawrence is injured.

Slade is a superb O/C and Ford should give the backline a bit more urgency. If the forwards can get the "go-forward" he should thrive.

Looks to be a good game with fair(ish) weather.
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26/11/2020 11:59:34 5 2
bbc
Spot on when the English forwards get going forward Ford is perfect and joy to watch. If we don’t get that momentum he gets found out. Looking at the packs it’s a fair bet though the English forwards have the upper hand here.
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26/11/2020 12:38:27 4 2
bbc
Ford will get an armchair ride on Saturday which is what every fly half wants/needs. In a way, its the perfect game as we don't have a Jamie Robert-type player to run at him (although I thought Johnny Williams did OK in his first game).

As always the game will be won (and in our case) lost up front and Ford will be able to showcase his skills with front foot ball and kicking to the corners.
78
26/11/2020 11:53:30 1 13
bbc
I know there is a lot of excitement amongst the English fans but let’s not lose sight of the fact that without curry, underhill, Willis and Launchbury this england team would be average at best.
90
26/11/2020 12:00:07 2 1
bbc
lol, we're six nations champions & unbeaten so far. You struggled to beat Georgia, you Welsh really do have some coconuts.
78
26/11/2020 11:53:30 1 13
bbc
I know there is a lot of excitement amongst the English fans but let’s not lose sight of the fact that without curry, underhill, Willis and Launchbury this england team would be average at best.
91
26/11/2020 12:00:46 4 1
bbc
What's your point? I think the majority of world class teams across all sports would be far weaker if you took four of their best players out of the team
434
26/11/2020 15:24:20 0 0
bbc
You talk a lot of sense James.... Wales missing at least four first choice .... but although weaker for it great chance for pivac to put a young team of lads together to have a go.
92
26/11/2020 12:00:47 1 9
bbc
English being over confident again. We Welsh absolutely love this. We know what happens in these games. We WIN.
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bfc
26/11/2020 12:25:34 7 1
bbc
Yet strangely that's not you being over confident?
155
26/11/2020 12:30:04 0 1
bbc
This is a Jones strategy

Taunt the weakest Welsh team in 20 years and break the cycle

It's probably not that high risk
164
26/11/2020 12:34:22 3 1
bbc
You mean apart from 6 times out of the last 8 you mean.
350
26/11/2020 14:24:29 1 0
bbc
Not true, you rarely win. When you do its not by much
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26/11/2020 11:44:42 8 8
bbc
Two backs as replacement is not a concern at all. Ford, Farrell, Daley, Slade and Joseph can cover all eventualities with Watson also in the mix. Let's hope both scrum halves stay fit. Oh, let's not forget, Johnnie May can cover for the back row. England should be too good for a very unfit set of forwards led by Captain Mainwar-wyn Jones who will be miles off the pace.......Again!
93
26/11/2020 12:00:59 2 6
bbc
Wales need to use some tactics, as they don't have the player base or population to even be contenders (or shouldnt be). Some legal hard crunching tackles to the backs, see if they can get a forward in the backs, also wind up hot heads like sinklair and farrel. Let's hope the officials see underhils consistent offside as he was against Ireland.officials also keep an eye on farrels no arms tackling
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26/11/2020 12:10:02 10 1
bbc
Don't forget the Wales player base includes all the England rejects, so the pool is bigger than you think.
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26/11/2020 12:43:12 2 1
bbc
Hope they keep their eye on the entire welsh defensive line particularly the outer line
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26/11/2020 12:01:17 1 12
bbc
Perennial chokers England now need to win this after picking such a strong side.

Will the World Cup chumps bottle it again in the Sosban?
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26/11/2020 12:05:19 8 2
bbc
Have a day off - England are dominating the group at the moment and came second at the last World Cup, comfortably beating a top All Black side...

2nd at the World Cup = chumps? Absolute troll
116
26/11/2020 12:11:21 3 1
bbc
Aye - choked their way to more cup finals than Wales - terrible state of affairs
143
26/11/2020 12:24:20 1 1
bbc
Compared to Wales where only the referees participate in WC finals? Then a ref who thinks they are an entitled celebrity with a brand of 'humour' that would have Ronnie Barker turning in his grave?!

Compared to Wales where even the England women's team have won the WC (twice)?

England who won the 6N & Wales couldn't beat us even when we had 13 men for 6 mins?
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26/11/2020 12:31:20 2 2
bbc
Questions, questions. Will the Englishmen in red go into the correct dressing room? So much to debate.
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26/11/2020 12:32:19 1 1
bbc
Biennial chokers really

Like Biennial failures Wales - grand slam to 4th/5th - it's getting a bit repetitive suggesting the 6 nations fixtures should be randomised somewhat
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26/11/2020 13:17:50 0 0
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Better than being consistent failures in away matches
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26/11/2020 11:37:48 3 4
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I really hope that Wales are able to re establish their undoubted skills and are able to play an expansive game. However, against a defensive set up like England that might not be possible. I just hope that this game is more open than the England v Ireland.Jones tends to be too defensive for my taste.
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26/11/2020 12:01:18 1 1
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Jones is addressing the problem that England encountered in the WC final.
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26/11/2020 11:40:37 7 2
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for one, you don't need all the backs to be kicking options. 9, 10, 15 and maybe 12. also, joseph can't kick - did you see the slice at the weekend?
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26/11/2020 12:01:27 7 3
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that was one miskick in 1 game . Like saying Wilkinson couldn't kick because he missed a penalty .
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26/11/2020 14:19:48 3 0
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Wilkinson? Miss a penalty?? WHEN was THAT???
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26/11/2020 11:54:15 0 4
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England will not change their approach, interesting to see if Wales want to take on the English pack in an arm wrestle.
I hope they choose not to and revert to playing to their strengths and playing off the cuff and with a little flair. This is when the Welsh scare the living daylights out of the English.
Hope for a good game though, the Ireland game was a little sterile apart from May.
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26/11/2020 12:01:29 11 3
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'I hope they choose not to and revert to playing to their strengths and playing off the cuff and with a little flair.'

Have you been in cryogenic suspension since 1974?
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26/11/2020 12:01:42 3 4
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6:2 Forwards:Backs split should always be the way to go with England, especially with 2 legit FHs starting.
Go back to the tactics we had when Jones 1st came in, (& England had long unbeaten run) & play to your strengths.
Another successful tactic was holding back some of your best impact players to come on late, (I’m looking at you Billy!), which is why I’d give Simmonds a chance at starting 8.
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26/11/2020 12:41:04 0 1
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6:2 split absolutely works with this side due to ability of starting backs to cover backs getting injured. Farrell 10/12. JJ can play wing or OC. Slade can play 10/12/13/15. Watson can cover back three. Daly can play 13/14/15. If worse case three backs get injured Robson is quick enough to play wing and Curry could genuinely line up at 13 (people go on about Simmonds but Curry has serious pace)
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26/11/2020 11:53:30 1 13
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I know there is a lot of excitement amongst the English fans but let’s not lose sight of the fact that without curry, underhill, Willis and Launchbury this england team would be average at best.
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26/11/2020 12:02:44 3 1
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There's a lot of fear amongst vvales that Curry, Underhill, Willis and Launchbury are playing :)
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26/11/2020 12:03:39 0 1
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Hearing Liam Williams out injured now as well!
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26/11/2020 13:01:33 3 1
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15 stitches in his lip, shame as he’s good quality to watch