Most Black Friday products 'were same price or cheaper' beforehand
25/11/2020 | news | business | 532
Nine in 10 products are the same price or cheaper before the sale, finds consumer group.
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24/11/2020 13:08:14 63 7
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Black Friday is just another marketing ploy to keep this unsustainable consumerism-driven economic system going, when in reality we don’t need to keep buying endless amounts of stuff.

There needs to be a hard, but essential and extensive debate about a more sustainable system not so dependent on consumerism, for the good of the environment and consumer finances.
Cool, why don't you start it.
Tell me what you are going to give up to do your bit...
I'll not hold my breath.
:)
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24/11/2020 13:22:23 17 1
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We started by asking relatives for no "stocking filler" gifts.
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24/11/2020 13:30:49 6 9
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One of the big concerns about lockdown has been the effect on the economy and increases in unemployment.

So what exactly do you want to replace capitalism with that will avoid mass poverty?
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xlr
24/11/2020 13:41:04 11 0
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The problem with ending consumerism is that, at its core, the human animal likes to consume and hoard and stockpile.

Low interest rates make it even worse, as you're literally throwing your money away if you save.
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24/11/2020 13:56:17 2 4
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https://fee.org/articles/why-socialism-failed/ and replace it with something like this?
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24/11/2020 13:09:48 36 2
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who'd have thought it! Big business is trying to trick the consumer
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24/11/2020 13:18:26 40 2
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Additionally; and you're not going to believe this, but advertising turns out NOT to be a valuable social service after all but instead a malign never-ending exploitative con-trick! Who knew?!
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24/11/2020 13:09:59 142 6
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Put prices up during august, wait till November and reduce them by the same amount and people will think they are saving a fortune. Salesmanship/capitalism 101.
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24/11/2020 13:57:45 59 4
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Its not salesmanship at all.. Its business treating consumers like scun because thats how they see us.. Too stupid to realize

All these American holidays are the same
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24/11/2020 14:01:24 8 0
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All part of the great Christmas commercial scam , which if you read the HYS comments and "news" headlines , then the sheeple are happy enough to be taken for a financial ride anyway ! so they are getting exactly what they deserve.
I blame the millennials myself, our grandfathers would have muttered something about the Russians or Yanks , but same thing really.
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24/11/2020 13:10:04 47 2
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Shock horror - a obvious overhyped marketing gimmick turns out to be an obvious overhyped marketing gimmick.
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24/11/2020 13:11:25 95 11
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In other news Pope rumoured to be a catholic and bears known to defecate arboreally.
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24/11/2020 15:08:34 14 2
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Always knew bears do it in the woods but never knew they did in a tree
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24/11/2020 15:16:10 1 1
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but only one Pope is Catholic, so leeway there.
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24/11/2020 13:12:02 117 3
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I think this will only be news to people who still look forward to Black Friday.

Anyhow, wasn't this first shown 6 years ago then every year since? If people haven't understood it by now then I doubt they ever will.

Similarly, I wonder what the regulators are doing if there's obvious misleading or deception afoot.
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24/11/2020 13:54:13 31 0
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Yeh, I thought this was a repeat of last years story until I checked the date.
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Jim
24/11/2020 14:15:16 4 0
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The laws on sales are very lax. It's something like it only has to have been at the pre-sale price for 28 days, in over 50% of stores.

A few decent price trackers out there, get one and use it!
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25/11/2020 13:00:41 0 0
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"Similarly, I wonder what the regulators are doing..."

There are no rules that can fix stupid and gullible.

For £10,000 (each) I will teach that in a 30 minute masterclass.
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24/11/2020 13:12:18 3 1
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Wow I’m not surprised it’s just a marketing trick. They raise the original price slightly and do a discount just below.
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Moz
24/11/2020 13:13:01 10 1
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As one of my friends says: We only exist so marketing people have someone to target. Depressing isn't it....
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24/11/2020 13:44:35 5 0
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It is if you're taken in by it!
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24/11/2020 13:13:23 7 8
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Surely we should be calling it something other than Black Friday these days
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24/11/2020 13:15:05 3 1
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It seems to be working for them, so I doubt they'll change it
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24/11/2020 13:15:25 1 1
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BFM
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24/11/2020 14:32:30 0 0
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Black Tuesday?
Alt-Right-Neo-Con Wednesday?
Fake Hysteria Sale?
Don't Understand Words Week?

"The term "Black Friday" was first used on Sept. 24, 1869, when two investors, Jay Gould and Jim Fisk, drove up the price of gold and caused a crash that day. The stock market dropped 20% and foreign trade stopped. Farmers suffered a 50% dip in wheat and corn harvest value."
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24/11/2020 15:23:16 1 0
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Perhaps it's because "Friday of colour" isn't such a snappy marketing hook?
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24/11/2020 13:14:21 5 2
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That's a Surprise Sherlock
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24/11/2020 13:14:40 166 1
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The biggest give-away about Black Friday is the fact that it's a designed to get people spending money they haven't got on stuff they don't need in order to keep up with other people who are doing exactly the same.
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24/11/2020 13:57:45 20 1
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So true....However, I think people are too 'sane' to realise....
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24/11/2020 14:07:51 3 4
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That's pretty much what capitalism is based on.
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24/11/2020 14:37:59 5 3
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Precisely. Knowing that most of those fancy (but unreliable) German cars are about 95% on lease makes me laugh at the people driving them.
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24/11/2020 16:26:40 1 1
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WOWEE, thats spot on Insanity.
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24/11/2020 13:14:46 3 1
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Imagine my shock at this revelation (!)

https://i.gifer.com/1ZVW.gif
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24/11/2020 13:14:58 2 2
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What? Yer joking.....
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24/11/2020 13:43:56 0 0
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Err, nooo!
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24/11/2020 13:15:01 14 1
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Damn! How am I going to get my slippers with a built in USB charger and Alexa now?
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24/11/2020 13:15:05 6 3
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John Lewis are not good value at all. How can it be in a sale when it has been cheaper beforehand?
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24/11/2020 13:13:23 7 8
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Surely we should be calling it something other than Black Friday these days
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24/11/2020 13:15:05 3 1
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It seems to be working for them, so I doubt they'll change it
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24/11/2020 13:13:23 7 8
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Surely we should be calling it something other than Black Friday these days
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24/11/2020 13:15:25 1 1
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BFM
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24/11/2020 13:15:29 10 3
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Obsessed shopping behaviour is the problem. Prices are almost irrelevant.
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Ian
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I'm not comfortable with black Friday. Doesn't seem very PC. Removed
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24/11/2020 13:18:36 11 2
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I hope your tongue is lodged firmly in your cheek...

... And you're not that sort who looks for "I'm offended" content in every innocuous thing
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24/11/2020 13:26:12 3 1
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It would only be considered offensive if it was white Friday.

"I'm dreaming of a white Christmas
Just like the ones I used to know"

Lets see how long until that songs censored.
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Removed
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24/11/2020 13:13:49 8 2
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only a fool would believe that you can get a bargain at a highly discounted rate
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24/11/2020 13:16:55 70 4
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Black Friday is for muppets, so the vendors should do well.
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24/11/2020 14:25:58 10 2
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Black Friday is just a rip off, better deals to be have throughout the year. Designed to get people who are too lazy to price compare to buy.
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Ian
24/11/2020 13:17:08 3 25
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Maybe the Conservatives will do a reduction of price on the vaccine so that it's not just the rich getting testing faster.
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24/11/2020 13:18:05 12 2
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Everybody loves what they think is a free lunch. Mug society.
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24/11/2020 13:09:48 36 2
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who'd have thought it! Big business is trying to trick the consumer
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24/11/2020 13:18:26 40 2
bbc
Additionally; and you're not going to believe this, but advertising turns out NOT to be a valuable social service after all but instead a malign never-ending exploitative con-trick! Who knew?!
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24/11/2020 15:23:53 1 0
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Does anyone actually take notice of TV adverts these days?
I don't think I have seen any with relevance to the product advertised.
Meercats ( Russian?) being a perfect example.
I now have the ability to blank almost every one out.
Some are so ridiculous I fail occasionally.
I'm not comfortable with black Friday. Doesn't seem very PC. Removed
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24/11/2020 13:18:36 11 2
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I hope your tongue is lodged firmly in your cheek...

... And you're not that sort who looks for "I'm offended" content in every innocuous thing
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24/11/2020 13:08:14 63 7
bbc
Black Friday is just another marketing ploy to keep this unsustainable consumerism-driven economic system going, when in reality we don’t need to keep buying endless amounts of stuff.

There needs to be a hard, but essential and extensive debate about a more sustainable system not so dependent on consumerism, for the good of the environment and consumer finances.
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24/11/2020 13:19:58 17 48
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Cool, why don't you start it.
Tell me what you are going to give up to do your bit...
I'll not hold my breath.
:)
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OwO
24/11/2020 13:31:26 21 1
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The only thing one has to do is not engage with endless consumerism.

It's pretty easy, maybe you should try it instead of condescending to others.
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24/11/2020 13:20:11 49 2
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Really, this is news?

I worked at Comet years before they went under, approaching December the price tickets would start being changed on a almost daily basis, to increase the price by a few pennies or pounds each time.

January rolls round and low and behold it's now "On Sale" for the same price it was in early Decemeber.

All shop's do it, it's just a scam to get gullable people spending!
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24/11/2020 13:20:12 101 2
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Surprised? Retailers trying to literally scammer bargain hunters. Been going on for decades.

Years ago Dixons guaranteed to undercut Rubelows on any like for like item. I saw a TV in Currys £20 less than them. They argued it was one digit different, so ABC123C insstead of ABC123D.

Turned out that each had the model made specifically for them,. so you COULD NOT find it cheaper anywhere else.
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24/11/2020 13:23:31 43 2
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Very common and still happens to this day, TV's are the worst for it with different models for specific shops.

Only thing that usually changes is the location of a HDMI port on the back or reduction of ports, if anything changes at all.
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24/11/2020 13:46:54 2 3
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Good for them. That's smart. Why complain? Either then Tv was worth the price being asked, or it wasn't.
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24/11/2020 14:22:02 2 1
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"Years ago Dixons guaranteed to undercut Rubelows on any like for like item. I saw a TV in Currys £20 less than them. They argued it was one digit different, so ABC123C insstead of ABC123D."

That has always been the basis for those offers. They have slightly different models made exclusively for them, so you can't buy them anywhere else at all.
Totally agree. John Lewis is the same with the "Never Knowingly Undersold" slogan when the majority of products are own brand label "John Lewis & Partners". It's all just a con and so many people are taken in by it
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OwO
24/11/2020 17:19:01 0 0
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So did you buy the cheaper one, or just get mad and do nothing?

There is a simple fix to this, just pay attention and shop sensibly. If people want to get hyped and waste their money, that's not really anyone else's concern.
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24/11/2020 20:36:26 0 0
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I had a friend who worked for a well known brand most of her working life. She often said that a 'model' had a few parts omitted to so that another could be classed as more expensive. In reality there was no difference to joe public except the one digit, as mentioned.
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24/11/2020 13:20:53 13 1
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The older you get, the wiser you become, especially to clearing out the naff stock in retail.
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24/11/2020 13:21:00 208 6
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Yet another import from the “Grand Old US of A”, a fool & his money are easily parted.
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24/11/2020 13:42:57 74 9
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Along with starting sentences with so/snuck/cookies & gotten!
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24/11/2020 14:19:06 16 2
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Along with 'reaching out' instead of contacting
Along with obesity and the lazy "no neck" driver (doesn't check mirrors or blindspots before changing lanes)

No - the lack of indicator use is not a USA import that's a manufacturer fault for allowing idiots to buy BMW, Audi, Mercs and Range Rover.
Removed
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24/11/2020 15:04:51 2 2
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"Factor in" instead of "include", "train station" instead of "railway station"
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24/11/2020 15:35:15 0 2
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"train station" "gas station" and "appeal a decision"
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24/11/2020 16:19:38 0 0
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"a fool & his money are easily parted"
Congrats if you never spend. Otherwise, be clever and save it for genuine sales—there's plenty of simple tech these days for monitoring & checking prices over time.
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24/11/2020 19:18:51 0 0
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I really really hate the "So..." at the beginning of a sentence. It is very very common now but sounds so stupid. Because it is. AARRGHHHH
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24/11/2020 13:22:02 67 1
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And its no longer one Friday - it appears to get longer every year, it'll be like the DFS sale soon
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24/11/2020 14:24:58 22 0
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"it'll be like the DFS sale soon"

MFI was the worst. Pretty much impossible to find a day when they didn't have a sale.
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24/11/2020 17:02:56 0 0
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Or the January, now post Christmas starting before boxing day, sales.
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24/11/2020 13:22:11 35 3
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Black Friday has run its course. People are wise to the too good to be true offers by now. More fool you if you're not.
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xlr
24/11/2020 13:43:49 10 0
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Or they're just holding out for the equally non-extant "January Sales", as sadly more often happens to be the case.
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24/11/2020 14:00:00 1 0
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Obviously you're 100% right, which is why it has been cancelled and there aren't the warnings and there won't be the "suprise shock horror" story about fake discounts like this article warns of. Every year for the last 10 and the next 100.

People are gullbile, and believe the adverts "must be true or wouldn't be allowed". There's a lot of people out there, easily exploited.

More fool them? Harsh
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24/11/2020 15:20:12 1 0
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Seems not, weren't there fights in the queues at opening time last year?
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24/11/2020 18:17:23 0 0
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Somehow I doubt that people have wised up yet.
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24/11/2020 13:08:14 63 7
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Black Friday is just another marketing ploy to keep this unsustainable consumerism-driven economic system going, when in reality we don’t need to keep buying endless amounts of stuff.

There needs to be a hard, but essential and extensive debate about a more sustainable system not so dependent on consumerism, for the good of the environment and consumer finances.
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24/11/2020 13:22:23 17 1
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We started by asking relatives for no "stocking filler" gifts.
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24/11/2020 13:41:31 11 0
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How about no gifts at all!!!
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24/11/2020 13:23:03 48 1
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If the Government really wanted to do something for the people they would stop these shoddy practices in law - Curry's banging up prices in one shop in the Outer Hebrides so they can claim nationwide discounts after a 4-week period is wrong. 15 price changes on 1 item in 6 months!! Since when have DfS not had a sale on? It's all a giant con.
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24/11/2020 13:27:18 26 1
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I avoid shopping at these shops, plus staff are like sharks, reminds me of car dealers yrs ago.
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24/11/2020 13:32:55 0 3
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As far as I can recall there is no Currys in Stornoway.
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24/11/2020 13:45:04 5 0
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Why bring the law into it? The consumer decides - is the product worth the price being asked? Whether or not it has been cheaper before is irrelevant, the value relates to the price you pay.
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24/11/2020 14:10:09 0 0
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Only Curries you will find in the Hebrides are the ones made by Indian chaps.
But i get your point 100% .
As you mentioned the islands, why do islanders and highlanders have to pay double and triple postage charges ? thought we were all in this together .
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24/11/2020 13:20:12 101 2
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Surprised? Retailers trying to literally scammer bargain hunters. Been going on for decades.

Years ago Dixons guaranteed to undercut Rubelows on any like for like item. I saw a TV in Currys £20 less than them. They argued it was one digit different, so ABC123C insstead of ABC123D.

Turned out that each had the model made specifically for them,. so you COULD NOT find it cheaper anywhere else.
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24/11/2020 13:23:31 43 2
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Very common and still happens to this day, TV's are the worst for it with different models for specific shops.

Only thing that usually changes is the location of a HDMI port on the back or reduction of ports, if anything changes at all.
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24/11/2020 13:23:34 17 2
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Since we don't do Thanksgiving then how can we have Black Friday anyway?
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24/11/2020 13:24:18 7 0
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Those unknown brand TVs from the mass brawl will be worth about £20 now (or £25 if they have got the remote)
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24/11/2020 13:24:33 13 1
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“A Fool And His Money Are Soon Parted”

Thomas Tusser (1557)

It was true then and it is obviously true now.
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24/11/2020 13:24:36 10 1
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Most Black Friday products 'were same price or cheaper' beforehand

You don't say. What next, Bears defecate in wooded settings?
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24/11/2020 13:24:50 2 3
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Oh...that is a surprise. The 'Great' British ripoff, alive and well!
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OwO
24/11/2020 13:28:13 3 0
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This is an American phenomenon, imported here. What's your obsession with making everything a reason about why you hate this country?
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24/11/2020 13:43:23 0 0
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Itr's not a rip-off. You make a judgment as to whether the goods are worth the price being asked. Then you buy or you don't. Who's being ripped off?
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24/11/2020 14:27:59 0 0
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The Great British Cliche, taken straight from whatever dour TV stations you watch.

Guess what? A sensationalist, parochial, tiresome play on the fact that Great means Good as well as Large does not make it true.

Do you actively celebrate the denigration of the UK, notwithstanding the fact there is nothing uniquely British about sales, misleading prices, ripoffs in general?
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24/11/2020 13:25:39 58 1
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Is this really news ?
Anyone with any sense knows it's a rip off

Just another gimmick for the stupid and gullible
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24/11/2020 14:00:37 14 2
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A fair and valid point....however, we all know a lot of what we buy a week before Xmas day, will be reduced boxing day....but we still buy it knowing this.
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24/11/2020 14:06:26 0 1
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Seems to be rather a lot of them around these days.
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24/11/2020 16:28:11 2 1
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So clarify for me: When should the stupid & gullible buy?
Once you reveal the secret day(s), we can begin an education & rehab drive.
I'm not comfortable with black Friday. Doesn't seem very PC. Removed
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24/11/2020 13:26:12 3 1
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It would only be considered offensive if it was white Friday.

"I'm dreaming of a white Christmas
Just like the ones I used to know"

Lets see how long until that songs censored.
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24/11/2020 13:26:14 6 0
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Packs of beer are also cheaper in August than in December.
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24/11/2020 13:23:03 48 1
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If the Government really wanted to do something for the people they would stop these shoddy practices in law - Curry's banging up prices in one shop in the Outer Hebrides so they can claim nationwide discounts after a 4-week period is wrong. 15 price changes on 1 item in 6 months!! Since when have DfS not had a sale on? It's all a giant con.
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24/11/2020 13:27:18 26 1
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I avoid shopping at these shops, plus staff are like sharks, reminds me of car dealers yrs ago.
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24/11/2020 13:37:47 1 3
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Don't blame you at all, it's a horrible experience in most of these shops. And pricing, well, to add to my comments above... a sale should always be a genuine sale where price is reduced, and goes back up after, limit sales to 3 or 4 a year and max duration of say 1 month. But of course UK Gov (of all colours) isn't interested in passing laws that would help the average Joe, only their buddies!
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OwO
24/11/2020 13:27:25 4 0
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Another year, another article saying the exact same things. Why do people even bother with it anymore?
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24/11/2020 13:28:12 38 1
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Just buy Item when you really need it then you don't feel conned & appreciate more.
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24/11/2020 13:24:50 2 3
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Oh...that is a surprise. The 'Great' British ripoff, alive and well!
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OwO
24/11/2020 13:28:13 3 0
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This is an American phenomenon, imported here. What's your obsession with making everything a reason about why you hate this country?
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24/11/2020 13:40:54 0 1
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Along with starting sentences with so/snuck/cookies & gotten!
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24/11/2020 13:28:30 5 4
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Just when you think humans can't be any more obsessed with consumerism and materialism, we have Black Friday. What is the cost be to the planet environmentally? How is it that humans have the intelligence to defeat a pandemic whilst simultaneously being stupid enough to unthinkingly destroy their one and only planet.
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24/11/2020 13:39:58 2 1
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Did you type that on your ethically farmed Abacus made from twigs and powered by electricity you grew in your lentil patch?
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24/11/2020 13:28:52 10 0
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"Most Black Friday deals don't offer the lowest price".

Don't buy them then.
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24/11/2020 13:42:19 1 1
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Exactly. The tone of the story, and of several comments, suggests that people are handcuffed, dragged to the shops under armed guard, and not allowed back home until they've spent their last penny.
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24/11/2020 13:29:36 9 2
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Years ago we used to have the sales after Christmas. Then retail realised that people were in the main not being fooled and have simply brought their old stock disposal sale forward. It's never been about giving people genuine bargains, it's always been about limiting losses for manufacturers and retailers.

Keep your money where it is best for you - in your pocket.
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24/11/2020 13:41:09 3 0
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"Keep your money where it is best for you - in your pocket."

Makes no sense. Money has no value except for the value of what you spend it on.
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Bob
24/11/2020 13:30:01 3 6
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BF rip off further compounded by shoddy goods imported from the same country that gave the world CV.
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24/11/2020 13:52:06 1 0
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Where's your tv/dvd player/phone made?
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24/11/2020 14:29:18 0 0
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Curriculum Vitae? I KNEW the ruddy Romans were to blame!

Romanes Eunt Dormus!
Romanes Eunt Dormus!
Romanes Eunt Dormus!
Romanes Eunt Dormus!
Romanes Eunt Dormus!
Romanes Eunt Dormus!
Romanes Eunt Dormus!
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24/11/2020 13:30:20 7 0
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One rule of thumb to remember, No one gives anything for nothing, Always a catch somewhere.
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24/11/2020 13:30:49 25 1
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There's a great website at https://pricespy.co.uk/ which shows you prices from different retailers, but also shows you the price history too
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24/11/2020 16:55:44 0 0
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I'll give that a go next time I need something.
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24/11/2020 13:08:14 63 7
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Black Friday is just another marketing ploy to keep this unsustainable consumerism-driven economic system going, when in reality we don’t need to keep buying endless amounts of stuff.

There needs to be a hard, but essential and extensive debate about a more sustainable system not so dependent on consumerism, for the good of the environment and consumer finances.
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24/11/2020 13:30:49 6 9
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One of the big concerns about lockdown has been the effect on the economy and increases in unemployment.

So what exactly do you want to replace capitalism with that will avoid mass poverty?
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24/11/2020 13:52:35 12 1
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I acknowledge those concerns but must point out I said that an alternative system should be the subject of a debate, as my views for an alternative won't necessarily be the best option (my view is a better system maybe one that currently doesn't exist/isn't practiced anywhere globally).

Either way, infinite growth on a finite planet is impossible.
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24/11/2020 13:57:10 4 2
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People can earn money without the need for "stuff" to be manufactured. The services industry is growing substantially. Besides that, if people consumed less they would require less money so wouldn't need as much work.
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evz
24/11/2020 13:31:09 0 0
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duhhh
Cool, why don't you start it.
Tell me what you are going to give up to do your bit...
I'll not hold my breath.
:)
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OwO
24/11/2020 13:31:26 21 1
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The only thing one has to do is not engage with endless consumerism.

It's pretty easy, maybe you should try it instead of condescending to others.
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24/11/2020 13:32:02 4 3
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I'm surprised its still called Black Friday today !
Yea, Lets start calling it Black Fridays Matter :) Removed
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24/11/2020 13:39:54 0 0
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I've never understood the name in the first place.

Wasn't Black Friday originally a horror film? Are the retailers telling us it's terrible to go to their shops?
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24/11/2020 13:32:31 3 0
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next they will be telling us that WWE is not a real sport but BT think it is
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24/11/2020 13:23:03 48 1
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If the Government really wanted to do something for the people they would stop these shoddy practices in law - Curry's banging up prices in one shop in the Outer Hebrides so they can claim nationwide discounts after a 4-week period is wrong. 15 price changes on 1 item in 6 months!! Since when have DfS not had a sale on? It's all a giant con.
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24/11/2020 13:32:55 0 3
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As far as I can recall there is no Currys in Stornoway.
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24/11/2020 13:45:56 1 0
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Plenty in Brick Lane, though.
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24/11/2020 13:33:05 4 2
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'Black Friday' doesn't make business sense to lower prices before Christmas anyway because that is when people are spending money. It's only after Christmas that you get the REAL DEALS when everyone is cash-strapped. Just another marketing prank
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24/11/2020 13:33:05 34 1
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Black Friday is an American import that makes no sense in the UK. We have Boxing Day sales the day after Christmas. They have Black Friday sales the day after Thanksgiving. Why would any UK retailer discount before Christmas? Why is this a surprise?
68
24/11/2020 13:35:42 19 1
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Boxing day sales a scam also
78
24/11/2020 13:38:15 0 0
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The same as tarting sentences with so/snuck/cookies & gotten - all abominations
161
24/11/2020 14:02:55 1 0
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What are odds on Thanksgiving reaching our shores within next 10 years?
273
24/11/2020 14:41:34 1 0
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"Why would any UK retailer discount before Christmas?"

They were doing that already as people started holding off buying things until they were cheaper in January.
63
24/11/2020 13:33:09 12 0
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Anyone who does not realise that Black Friday is a scam has not been paying attention. Wait until the liquidated stock comes flooding out for the best deals, once the magic money tree finishes.
64
24/11/2020 13:34:23 4 0
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Im shocked that companies would try and pull a fast one....shocked I say!
65
24/11/2020 13:34:29 1 0
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People are too dumb to google search - I use an auction were most items are returns and faulty and people pay more than what they can get off of Ebay or Amazon and there is a no return or refund policy with the auction.
66
24/11/2020 13:34:31 11 1
bbc
What's this? Unscrupulous retailers with a shed load of unwanted stock using psychology and every technological tool at their disposal to hoodwink unsuspecting customers to part with money for stuff they often don't really need?

Well I never!
79
24/11/2020 13:38:16 3 2
bbc
No-one's being hoodwinked. The goods are available. Make your decision.
67
24/11/2020 13:34:39 20 0
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An American abomination that prey's on the human emotion of must have over actually need.
77
24/11/2020 13:37:49 7 1
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That's business. Peraude people they need something. They can still decide whether they actually want it, no-one is forced to buy these things.
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24/11/2020 14:39:47 0 0
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"An American abomination that prey's on the human emotion of must have over actually need."

There is very little that is actually needed. And if you lived life based only on strict necessity you'd be glad when it was over.
62
24/11/2020 13:33:05 34 1
bbc
Black Friday is an American import that makes no sense in the UK. We have Boxing Day sales the day after Christmas. They have Black Friday sales the day after Thanksgiving. Why would any UK retailer discount before Christmas? Why is this a surprise?
68
24/11/2020 13:35:42 19 1
bbc
Boxing day sales a scam also
283
24/11/2020 14:44:27 2 0
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"Boxing day sales a scam also"

They are not scams. They are goods being offered for a specified price, for you to decide whether you want to pay that or not. It's really very simple and transparent.

Anyone who buys stuff they didn't want just because it is reduced has bigger problems to worry about.
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xlr
24/11/2020 13:35:46 4 0
bbc
You can see them do it, months before. A fiver onto price. Then another fiver. Then another.

And bang! "Black Friday, thirty quid off!"

Same price it was three months back...
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24/11/2020 13:36:09 5 0
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.... says consumer group Which?
It urged consumers to "do some research"....

We all know that Which!

The Black Friday target audience doesn't, that is why they are the target audience
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24/11/2020 13:36:44 3 0
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"Nearly nine in ten products sold on Black Friday are available for the same price or cheaper earlier in the year"

Yeah, that's called supply and demand.

And inflation.

I weep for humanity.
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24/11/2020 13:32:02 4 3
bbc
I'm surprised its still called Black Friday today !
Yea, Lets start calling it Black Fridays Matter :) Removed
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24/11/2020 13:37:37 3 0
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I always worry about the hitherto unspecified consequences of a 'MUST END MONDAY’ sale over-running by a day.

The furniture retailers with their entirely ficticious ‘WAS £5,000 NOW JUST £199 HURRY HURRY HURRY!’ sales maintain that the buying public like to think they are getting a deal and we’d not like it any other way. Yeah, right. And Santa drives a Unicorn.
74
24/11/2020 13:37:42 4 1
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and the Pope's still a Catholic!
75
24/11/2020 13:37:45 4 0
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Most of it is cheap tosh made for 10 pence in China by someone who earns even less than that
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24/11/2020 14:10:05 0 0
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Hmm? Good to see such a well-evidenced piece of market research. My korean-made electronics were made in... China? My scottish-wool sweaters made in Edinburgh, just outside Beijing...
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24/11/2020 13:27:18 26 1
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I avoid shopping at these shops, plus staff are like sharks, reminds me of car dealers yrs ago.
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24/11/2020 13:37:47 1 3
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Don't blame you at all, it's a horrible experience in most of these shops. And pricing, well, to add to my comments above... a sale should always be a genuine sale where price is reduced, and goes back up after, limit sales to 3 or 4 a year and max duration of say 1 month. But of course UK Gov (of all colours) isn't interested in passing laws that would help the average Joe, only their buddies!
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24/11/2020 14:35:26 4 1
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"a sale should always be a genuine sale where price is reduced, and goes back up after, limit sales to 3 or 4 a year and max duration of say 1 month.

Alternatively you could take responsibility as a consumer and know the usual price of the thing you are buying. It is not the role of government to think for you.
67
24/11/2020 13:34:39 20 0
bbc
An American abomination that prey's on the human emotion of must have over actually need.
77
24/11/2020 13:37:49 7 1
bbc
That's business. Peraude people they need something. They can still decide whether they actually want it, no-one is forced to buy these things.
62
24/11/2020 13:33:05 34 1
bbc
Black Friday is an American import that makes no sense in the UK. We have Boxing Day sales the day after Christmas. They have Black Friday sales the day after Thanksgiving. Why would any UK retailer discount before Christmas? Why is this a surprise?
78
24/11/2020 13:38:15 0 0
bbc
The same as tarting sentences with so/snuck/cookies & gotten - all abominations
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Jim
24/11/2020 13:43:49 0 0
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Gotten is the worst word in the world. I hate it, hate it, hate it. There are no instances of the word gotten where got or some other "real" word wouldn't suffice.
66
24/11/2020 13:34:31 11 1
bbc
What's this? Unscrupulous retailers with a shed load of unwanted stock using psychology and every technological tool at their disposal to hoodwink unsuspecting customers to part with money for stuff they often don't really need?

Well I never!
79
24/11/2020 13:38:16 3 2
bbc
No-one's being hoodwinked. The goods are available. Make your decision.
80
24/11/2020 13:38:25 3 1
bbc
bit of a side issue .most consumer debt is secured against an over inflated housing market(sustained by billions of bounds of central bank money printing at zero per cent)
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DrR
24/11/2020 13:38:26 9 0
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At least we are spared the scenes of fighting at the stores this year.
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24/11/2020 13:38:34 3 1
bbc
What business is going to really cut prices during the busiest period of the year?

In the USA, Black Friday was about a few loss-leader bargains to coax people into the shops on the day after Thanksgiving. Often clearing out old stock ready for the Christmas stock.

A good black friday got the Christmas trading season off to a good start.

In the UK shops quietly sold off old stock in Oct/Nov.
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24/11/2020 14:07:04 0 0
bbc
"What business is going to really cut prices during the busiest period of the year?"

Hard to know. If only there were some way of finding out. Perhaps the TV could show a series of short information clips every 20 minutes? Maybe the so-called interwebs could be configured to provide some sort of search engine where you might look for a particular phrase?

TLDR; all of them because sales => profit
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24/11/2020 13:39:09 7 0
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Black Friday is a ridiculous import from the USA which goes against all logic as it reduces prices at the time of highest demand and any retailer that seriously takes part in it needs their heads looking at, that's why prices are not really any cheaper than at other times of the year. I'm not sure why journalists think that's a big deal other than they are not capable of independent thought.
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24/11/2020 13:45:43 2 1
bbc
Along with starting sentences with so/snuck/cookies & gotten!
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24/11/2020 14:04:17 0 0
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"any retailer that seriously takes part in it needs their heads looking at"

You mean, they can't do maths and all go surprisingly bust in December? And yet here they all are, still trading, year after year...

Is it possible they actually CAN do maths and know that "sell for a discount" is better than "do not sell at all"?

And yes, all journos are awful and only you can think. Obviously.
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24/11/2020 13:39:40 1 1
bbc
There are three items on my wish list at the moment. The first is custom built in the UK and thus will not be discounted. The second is currently out of stock worldwide so it's price will not drop even when the container ship gets to dock. The third is an electronics item which is due to be replaced with an "even better model" early next year. I'll wait for next year and the price to drop then.
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24/11/2020 13:20:36 2 0
bbc
Don't buy from any advert that may grab you on social media.

These internet giants don't give a monkeys about you and I and whether or not we get what we ordered. They only care about the revenue from their adverts.

The high levels of ongoing fraud on the interent should be a focus for our government.
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24/11/2020 13:32:02 4 3
bbc
I'm surprised its still called Black Friday today !
86
24/11/2020 13:39:54 0 0
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I've never understood the name in the first place.

Wasn't Black Friday originally a horror film? Are the retailers telling us it's terrible to go to their shops?
87
24/11/2020 13:39:57 21 2
bbc
Would the Beeb be able to run an article on where bears go to the toilet and possibly an expose on the Pope's religion?
165
24/11/2020 14:04:45 7 0
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Says more about humans than the BBC, Calum. Madness is when you repeat the same thing over and over and expect a different result.
365
24/11/2020 15:16:55 0 2
bbc
Bears maybe but not the Pope thing unless the Pope is a Muslim.
Anything else wouldn't fit the ongoing BBC narrative that anything traditionally British including Christian is to be sneered at and downplayed/ downgraded.
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24/11/2020 13:28:30 5 4
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Just when you think humans can't be any more obsessed with consumerism and materialism, we have Black Friday. What is the cost be to the planet environmentally? How is it that humans have the intelligence to defeat a pandemic whilst simultaneously being stupid enough to unthinkingly destroy their one and only planet.
88
24/11/2020 13:39:58 2 1
bbc
Did you type that on your ethically farmed Abacus made from twigs and powered by electricity you grew in your lentil patch?
110
24/11/2020 13:47:14 1 0
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With a name like yours, I don't imagine anyone takes your comments seriously...
89
24/11/2020 13:40:23 5 0
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B& Q the same, every item they are advertising in their so called deals are out of Stock. I clicked a 50 mile radius and not one thing available anywhere. Big Con
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OwO
24/11/2020 13:28:13 3 0
bbc
This is an American phenomenon, imported here. What's your obsession with making everything a reason about why you hate this country?
90
24/11/2020 13:40:54 0 1
bbc
Along with starting sentences with so/snuck/cookies & gotten!
1
24/11/2020 13:08:14 63 7
bbc
Black Friday is just another marketing ploy to keep this unsustainable consumerism-driven economic system going, when in reality we don’t need to keep buying endless amounts of stuff.

There needs to be a hard, but essential and extensive debate about a more sustainable system not so dependent on consumerism, for the good of the environment and consumer finances.
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xlr
24/11/2020 13:41:04 11 0
bbc
The problem with ending consumerism is that, at its core, the human animal likes to consume and hoard and stockpile.

Low interest rates make it even worse, as you're literally throwing your money away if you save.
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24/11/2020 14:12:58 2 1
bbc
"Low interest rates make it even worse, as you're literally throwing your money away if you save."

Not if you put it in a low risk investment fund through an ISA.
92
24/11/2020 13:41:06 4 0
bbc
The whole thing is a pathetic charade.
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24/11/2020 13:29:36 9 2
bbc
Years ago we used to have the sales after Christmas. Then retail realised that people were in the main not being fooled and have simply brought their old stock disposal sale forward. It's never been about giving people genuine bargains, it's always been about limiting losses for manufacturers and retailers.

Keep your money where it is best for you - in your pocket.
93
24/11/2020 13:41:09 3 0
bbc
"Keep your money where it is best for you - in your pocket."

Makes no sense. Money has no value except for the value of what you spend it on.
387
24/11/2020 15:27:28 1 0
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but like cake, once you spend it ( eat it) it's gone.
34
24/11/2020 13:22:23 17 1
bbc
We started by asking relatives for no "stocking filler" gifts.
94
24/11/2020 13:41:31 11 0
bbc
How about no gifts at all!!!
50
24/11/2020 13:28:52 10 0
bbc
"Most Black Friday deals don't offer the lowest price".

Don't buy them then.
95
24/11/2020 13:42:19 1 1
bbc
Exactly. The tone of the story, and of several comments, suggests that people are handcuffed, dragged to the shops under armed guard, and not allowed back home until they've spent their last penny.
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24/11/2020 13:42:44 5 0
bbc
And after the Black Friday sales there'll be Christmas sales, Boxing Day sales, January sales, Valentine's Day sales, Mother's Day sales... don't be taken in by the pressure to buy "now"... even if it is a good deal there'll be the same deal again in 2 weeks.
31
24/11/2020 13:21:00 208 6
bbc
Yet another import from the “Grand Old US of A”, a fool & his money are easily parted.
97
24/11/2020 13:42:57 74 9
bbc
Along with starting sentences with so/snuck/cookies & gotten!
129
24/11/2020 13:52:20 20 2
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And the conversion of nouns into verbs - "deplaning", ie to disembark from an aircraft, being the most egregious example.
132
24/11/2020 13:54:06 26 3
bbc
And even worse "Can I get........", to which the normal answer should be "No, I'll get it it for you but as you didn't include the word please, next please!!"
173
24/11/2020 14:06:44 9 2
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Gotten was actually an English export to the Americans before it later became a US export to the UK!
185
24/11/2020 14:10:21 9 2
bbc
And finishing them with Bud or Dude...
213
24/11/2020 14:21:15 15 1
bbc
Don't forget the American spelling of words that are everywhere now - color for example, Colour!
216
24/11/2020 14:23:11 13 2
bbc
And 'guys' and the dreaded 'reach out' instead of contract
228
24/11/2020 14:26:54 8 1
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Starting sentences with "so" is more of an Irish thing
264
24/11/2020 14:36:40 3 0
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Cookie monster.
287
24/11/2020 14:46:48 9 0
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Awesome. It is what it is though. I saw this post and I was like OMG that's like wow, and that's not blowing smoke up anyone's ass.
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24/11/2020 16:04:10 1 1
bbc
What about "OK"? (Although there is a minority offering that it could have evolved in Britain.)

However, I do rather like the disparagement and cynicism behind the term "ego-trip". Not all US idioms grate - although your "bottom" four are well inside the cesspool of major linguistic offenders.
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DG
24/11/2020 17:20:59 0 0
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And the only country to pronounce 'TH' in the name Anthony which some reporters in the UK copy....... so bad
463
24/11/2020 17:33:16 2 0
bbc
Or, like, using like all the time.
493
24/11/2020 19:19:26 0 0
bbc
So..... "chk-chk- BANG!!"
41
24/11/2020 13:24:50 2 3
bbc
Oh...that is a surprise. The 'Great' British ripoff, alive and well!
98
24/11/2020 13:43:23 0 0
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Itr's not a rip-off. You make a judgment as to whether the goods are worth the price being asked. Then you buy or you don't. Who's being ripped off?
33
24/11/2020 13:22:11 35 3
bbc
Black Friday has run its course. People are wise to the too good to be true offers by now. More fool you if you're not.
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xlr
24/11/2020 13:43:49 10 0
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Or they're just holding out for the equally non-extant "January Sales", as sadly more often happens to be the case.
13
24/11/2020 13:14:58 2 2
bbc
What? Yer joking.....
100
24/11/2020 13:43:56 0 0
bbc
Err, nooo!