Return of fans 'something to celebrate'
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The return of crowds to outdoor sporting events is "something to celebrate for fans", says English Football League chairman Rick Parry.
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Distribution of tickets will be a nightmare for most clubs. Not sure I agree with depending on which tier that region is in depends on fans. Either all clubs are allowed 4,000 or no one is.
Totally disagree.
If people that live in the tier one regions had listened and behaved properly then we wouldn't have needed the second lock down at all !
If people that live in the tier one regions had listened and behaved properly then we wouldn't have needed the second lock down at all !
Yeah but how many areas with an EFL/National League team will actually be in Tier 1 or 2? Govt throwing clubs a bone but on a elastic rope they can pull back as soon as a club gets near to it and we're supposed to be grateful for them controlling our lives and movements for the best part of a year.
Stupid, irresponsible decision.
Covid hasn't gone, get the vaccine working first.
This is bound to increase the spread.
Covid hasn't gone, get the vaccine working first.
This is bound to increase the spread.
Yep let's all stay locked up till your beloved vaccine arrives which the vast majority of people won't be eligible for initially anyway. Covid will never go just like 1000s of other diseases. If you're worried then stay indoors just as if you don't want to get run over then don't cross the road until it's clear.
Fair comment but as some have said Rallies for the BLM, Anti Lockdown and the Planet Rebellion were permitted so why not Sports.
Yes is concern and know doubt plenty of guidelines and protocol to be done to keep the Boffins happy.
Yes is concern and know doubt plenty of guidelines and protocol to be done to keep the Boffins happy.
That's punishing the city when all people in that tier might not be football fans. They could potentially continuously break the rules just so football fans can't return in their city.
Here we go, ProjectFear in full voice again. 1000s of people on beaches in the summer and on BLM 'protests' yet no rise in infections, schools go back & weather changes then they increase so there's your answer. I suggest you lock your doors and windows and never leave your house ever again and let the rest of us live our lives
So if League 1 & 2 clubs are allowed 2,000 fans back in maximum, will it be worth smaller clubs bringing back all the furloughed staff? (stewards, safety officer, ticket office staff) Most of the people attending these games will be season ticket holders, who have already paid the club beforehand. Will clubs make enough money on matchday (pies, pints & programmes) to justify bringing back staff?
Stupid, irresponsible decision.
Covid hasn't gone, get the vaccine working first.
This is bound to increase the spread.
Covid hasn't gone, get the vaccine working first.
This is bound to increase the spread.
Yep let's all stay locked up till your beloved vaccine arrives which the vast majority of people won't be eligible for initially anyway. Covid will never go just like 1000s of other diseases. If you're worried then stay indoors just as if you don't want to get run over then don't cross the road until it's clear.
I am worried for myself and others.
All I am saying is there are far more important matters than returning to football, which I have done regularly for over 50 years.
All I am saying is there are far more important matters than returning to football, which I have done regularly for over 50 years.
Deja vu again ....
This to make us EFL Clubs happy and aware the HYS do cover Football outside the PL is it.
Yes plenty of mixed views in this and we be dammed if we do and dammed if we don't.
Be more stewards than supporters probably and as said good for some and concern for others.
So how are the ST Holders going to be accounted for and kept happy.
This to make us EFL Clubs happy and aware the HYS do cover Football outside the PL is it.
Yes plenty of mixed views in this and we be dammed if we do and dammed if we don't.
Be more stewards than supporters probably and as said good for some and concern for others.
So how are the ST Holders going to be accounted for and kept happy.
Totally disagree.
If people that live in the tier one regions had listened and behaved properly then we wouldn't have needed the second lock down at all !
If people that live in the tier one regions had listened and behaved properly then we wouldn't have needed the second lock down at all !
"That's punishing the city when all people in that tier might not be football fans. They could potentially continuously break the rules just so football fans can't return in their city."
Yes- I'm sure that how most non-football fans will think!!!???
Yes- I'm sure that how most non-football fans will think!!!???
Some teams will be lucky to have an 100 fans look at Mansfield Town for instance. They won't have a problem with social distancing ??
But its not about the fans though is it ... how about the extra staff, the policing, the first aiders and all the others needed to stage a football match. Vaccine is promised next year ... being patient and waiting was the better choice but BoJo caves in yet again! Wrong choice and spineless pm
Great for the lower league clubs although as a fan of one, i won't be going to a game until masks are ditched and singing / shouting is allowed. May as well watch it at home if they are going to continue with those restrictions.
Totally disagree.
If people that live in the tier one regions had listened and behaved properly then we wouldn't have needed the second lock down at all !
If people that live in the tier one regions had listened and behaved properly then we wouldn't have needed the second lock down at all !
Here we go, ProjectFear in full voice again. 1000s of people on beaches in the summer and on BLM 'protests' yet no rise in infections, schools go back & weather changes then they increase so there's your answer. I suggest you lock your doors and windows and never leave your house ever again and let the rest of us live our lives
With your sort of selfish attitude its no wonder the virus has spread.
So your attitude is very similar to many here in the US. You think you have a right to do whatever you want, regardless of the possibility that your bad choice might cost someone else their life. This pandemic has a knock-on effect from every bad decision made. Essentially, your rights and freedoms end where they adversely impact on other people.
It's great for the smaller clubs like Birmingham & Accrington they need the gate money to survive but fans at some grounds in some areas but not others isnt right
Not so subtle dig at Birmingham City who in my years of going to football have the most passionate fans in the Midlands.
Firstly I find it a bit rich for Parry to be asking for clubs to act responsibly after his role in Project Power Grab a few weeks ago.
Aside from obvious questions regarding Covid security at & on the way to the game, surely this discriminates financially against clubs in the higher tiers unless income is shared by all in the short term?
Must be fair, something Parry is unlikely to help with...
Aside from obvious questions regarding Covid security at & on the way to the game, surely this discriminates financially against clubs in the higher tiers unless income is shared by all in the short term?
Must be fair, something Parry is unlikely to help with...
Some teams will be lucky to have an 100 fans look at Mansfield Town for instance. They won't have a problem with social distancing ??
Fans attendance should have never been questioned as it is an outdoor "gig", only numbers of fans reduced by 50%. Brentford stadium still needs the " house warming" party
Put some restrictions on the premier league sharks but punishing small, aspiring clubs is not only immoral but also detrimental to the local community and people's mental health.After all it ain't virus from Kate Winslet movie
Put some restrictions on the premier league sharks but punishing small, aspiring clubs is not only immoral but also detrimental to the local community and people's mental health.After all it ain't virus from Kate Winslet movie
Is the Kate Winslet movie about soccer?
It will be interesting to see the impact on the results once (albeit limited) crowds are allowed back in. I do feel some of the home advantage has been lost recently, and I wonder if we will see an upturn in the percentage of home wins.
If so is this system fair as different teams will be in different tiers and hence will have different impacts?
If so is this system fair as different teams will be in different tiers and hence will have different impacts?
If we're talking PL results I don't think it makes much difference at all. 2,000 fans in stadiums which hold over 40,000 will still appear to be empty. They'll still need the fake crowd noise on TV.
Yep let's all stay locked up till your beloved vaccine arrives which the vast majority of people won't be eligible for initially anyway. Covid will never go just like 1000s of other diseases. If you're worried then stay indoors just as if you don't want to get run over then don't cross the road until it's clear.
The way some people are going on you’d think no one wants to go back to games. Yes it will be even harder than usual for the plastics at Anfield to get a ticket, but for those of us who support our local non-league team this is a chance to get some sanity back in our lives. And I’m not so petty as to begrudge others the chance to go if I end up in a tier that can’t.
Most sensible comment yet.
And the plastics from the London boroughs who won't be able to go to Old Trafford. Only fair to call out all glory hunters, otherwise you're just creating comments to provoke. Tut tut.
The way some people are going on you’d think no one wants to go back to games. Yes it will be even harder than usual for the plastics at Anfield to get a ticket, but for those of us who support our local non-league team this is a chance to get some sanity back in our lives. And I’m not so petty as to begrudge others the chance to go if I end up in a tier that can’t.
Stupid, irresponsible decision.
Covid hasn't gone, get the vaccine working first.
This is bound to increase the spread.
Covid hasn't gone, get the vaccine working first.
This is bound to increase the spread.
Most of the people involved in the BLM protests wore masks, and for the most part, outdoor events where people don't jam together have shown to not be super spreaders. Warmer temperatures helped as well. The issue with fans at matches is the potential for ignoring the rules because of alcohol consumption.
Things can only get better
None of it makes any sense. No logic at all. How, all of a sudden, is it now ok when there is no significant change in casualties and infections?
It's a political decision, but I'd much rather sit in a virtually empty stadium for 2 hours than a comparatively more packed bus for 15 minutes.
Agreed. Grounds (including my home team) which might be allowed fans will be in tiers 1 and 2, where infection rates seem to be rising rather than falling. I won't be going yet.
Also, most Westminster politicians don't have a clue how real life works. We can space ourselves out round the terraces as in the nice photos, but its the transport and pub before and after which will be dangerous.
Also, most Westminster politicians don't have a clue how real life works. We can space ourselves out round the terraces as in the nice photos, but its the transport and pub before and after which will be dangerous.
Here we go, ProjectFear in full voice again. 1000s of people on beaches in the summer and on BLM 'protests' yet no rise in infections, schools go back & weather changes then they increase so there's your answer. I suggest you lock your doors and windows and never leave your house ever again and let the rest of us live our lives
Seeing as their quiet neighbours are top of the list for Hate crime abuse too stated in the Beeb Sports page. Says it all on the comment.
Happy Days as they say.
Happy Days as they say.
I suspect most of the 4k will be season ticket holders that have already paid.... And possibly not refunded to support their clubs through the global bustard that is upon us.
.........in the Premiership anyway. Ridiculous amounts of it there.
With your sort of selfish attitude its no wonder the virus has spread.
Parry is an idiot, games scheduled for the first we will be ' flexable ' and move them to the second if we can, as far as I know these proposals still have to be voted on, and it is not like waving a magic wand and these clubs can be set up to accommodate in a weed.
These clubs are his bone to push for more leeway for the bigger clubs, good on fans of minor clubs if they get to attend.
These clubs are his bone to push for more leeway for the bigger clubs, good on fans of minor clubs if they get to attend.
Who is the person you are quoting who misspelt "flexible?
The way some people are going on you’d think no one wants to go back to games. Yes it will be even harder than usual for the plastics at Anfield to get a ticket, but for those of us who support our local non-league team this is a chance to get some sanity back in our lives. And I’m not so petty as to begrudge others the chance to go if I end up in a tier that can’t.
Some clubs have put in a lot of effort to make their grounds 'COVID secure', others have done sod-all.
With just over a week until this becomes permissible - and we won't know which areas will be in which tiers yet either - this could end up being a bit of a rush job by some clubs which probably won't yield good results.
With just over a week until this becomes permissible - and we won't know which areas will be in which tiers yet either - this could end up being a bit of a rush job by some clubs which probably won't yield good results.
Will it be worth the Prem clubs even opening up the ground for 4,000 fans, with all the costs of staff, stewards, police, tickets, lighting etc. Really not sure it would be. Massive boost for the smaller clubs though.
There aren't many PL clubs in Tier 1! Maybe only Southampton and Brighton - and that's if the tiers are not changed from December 2nd.
A massive boost in Covid-19 cases
No! Tranmere owner said it’s not even beneficial for them!
The fact or issue of Grass Roots sports from amateur to Semi pro level is being allowed for ALL Sports to be started again.
Yes there are many protocols to follow but depends on the Clubs or organisation allowing or participating in the games
Also would a club still follow protocol knowing a player has either been in contact or have symptoms for all to Self isolate. Will it happen at this level.
Yes there are many protocols to follow but depends on the Clubs or organisation allowing or participating in the games
Also would a club still follow protocol knowing a player has either been in contact or have symptoms for all to Self isolate. Will it happen at this level.
Home fans only? otherwise everyone travelling across tiers will be a complete mess.
Well yes you would think so. Obviously Man U fans will have to cope with the long distance travel, but if they insist on living in Surrey that can't be helped.
Initially it will actually cost the lower league teams in tier 2 money. They will just be letting in season ticket holders who have already paid for their tickets.
.... but presumably that means they won't have to refund those fans so much for missed games, so actually it's saving them money.
Fairs fair. If fans have helped clubs with cashflow in September by paying for their season tickets, those clubs can't now whinge that the money's run out and so it's 'costing' them money.
Fairs fair. If fans have helped clubs with cashflow in September by paying for their season tickets, those clubs can't now whinge that the money's run out and so it's 'costing' them money.
Dont forget fans to wash your hands.
Burnley dingles dont have a clue abouy hygiene.
As for Liverpool fans....thats a virus itself!!! Removed
Burnley dingles dont have a clue abouy hygiene.
As for Liverpool fans....thats a virus itself!!! Removed
Blackburn $cum!
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Some teams will be lucky to have an 100 fans look at Mansfield Town for instance. They won't have a problem with social distancing ??
Not so subtle dig at Birmingham City who in my years of going to football have the most passionate fans in the Midlands.
Given today's leaked news that 'half the country is expected to be placed in tier 3' and League football grounds are without exception in urban areas, I would be surprised if more than a handful of clubs are permitted 4,000 fans. A few more should be allowed 2,000 but the vast majority will continue to play behind closed doors.
Encouraging mass gatherings, brilliant idea
Can we get Grealish to socially distance from any motor vehicle. The guy thinks he's at the Fairground. Toot Toot! ??
.... but presumably that means they won't have to refund those fans so much for missed games, so actually it's saving them money.
Fairs fair. If fans have helped clubs with cashflow in September by paying for their season tickets, those clubs can't now whinge that the money's run out and so it's 'costing' them money.
Fairs fair. If fans have helped clubs with cashflow in September by paying for their season tickets, those clubs can't now whinge that the money's run out and so it's 'costing' them money.
LFC have same issue
I doubt Manchester clubs will have any fans to start with, there be a lot that won't be allowed as the area needs to be on low level tier for this too happen
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Why single out Man Utd when you could say the same for any Premier League club, they all have fans who live nowhere near the place they play.
Good news for Rugby Union clubs.
Though, not looking forward trying to purchase England cricket tickets next year, which aren't cheap as it is.
Will the Government ensure the the middle-men ticket agencies won't be buying in bulk?
Though, not looking forward trying to purchase England cricket tickets next year, which aren't cheap as it is.
Will the Government ensure the the middle-men ticket agencies won't be buying in bulk?
Dont forget fans to wash your hands.
Burnley dingles dont have a clue abouy hygiene.
As for Liverpool fans....thats a virus itself!!! Removed
Burnley dingles dont have a clue abouy hygiene.
As for Liverpool fans....thats a virus itself!!! Removed
Not so subtle dig at Birmingham City who in my years of going to football have the most passionate fans in the Midlands.
It will be interesting to see the impact on the results once (albeit limited) crowds are allowed back in. I do feel some of the home advantage has been lost recently, and I wonder if we will see an upturn in the percentage of home wins.
If so is this system fair as different teams will be in different tiers and hence will have different impacts?
If so is this system fair as different teams will be in different tiers and hence will have different impacts?
So if it came to pass, 4000 in Old Trafford (capacity76000) 4000 at Forest Green's New Lawn (capacity 5140), where's the logic?
It's 4000 or 50% of capacity whichever is the smaller, so FGR would only be allowed 2570. Not sure if that's in the article.
It's not based on ground capacity, it's based on which tier each club falls into. Manchester was in tier 3 before the lockdown so if there's no change, fans will still be barred. If Forest Green end up in a lower tier, they'll be allowed to readmit fans despite obviously having a far lower capacity. It's easy to sit and pick this apart but at least it's a step in the right direction.
Imagine the atmosphere at Man City's ground!!
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If we're talking PL results I don't think it makes much difference at all. 2,000 fans in stadiums which hold over 40,000 will still appear to be empty. They'll still need the fake crowd noise on TV.
Encouraging mass gatherings, brilliant idea
Letting people have their lives is exactly what the lockdown is supposed to be about. It's selfish people like you that are making this take longer than it has to.
Well yes you would think so. Obviously Man U fans will have to cope with the long distance travel, but if they insist on living in Surrey that can't be helped.
Do you have to be accompanied by a 'substantial meal' to keep you safe from catching the virus?
I thought that was to help counter the effects of a good evening's drinking! (a 'substantial meal', that is)
Players Family an Friends and Corporate get first option, then if any left goes to season ticket holders - fact.
I know people want to go to sporting events but can we not wait until the vaccines are proved to be efficacious and safe then we could attend in somewhat safer circumstances.i would love to watch rugby again but i think i will wait until safety comes before income.
Do you ever manage to cross the road?
You seem terrified of everything
You seem terrified of everything
As a rugby fan you're surely aware that Rugby Union is due to be the main beneficiary from the recent Govt's planned bail out for sport. Real danger the sport could go to the wall.
If you know people at risk, or have an underlying health issue, then don't go. If you do go, wear a face mask, don't group together in the stadium, and don't all bundle into the same bus on the way home.
If you know people at risk, or have an underlying health issue, then don't go. If you do go, wear a face mask, don't group together in the stadium, and don't all bundle into the same bus on the way home.
Imagine the atmosphere at Man City's ground!!
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Glad to hear that Rick Parry has so much concern for fans safety, how wrong of me thinking it was all about the money!!!! lol
The big question from me is: If you had to be vaccinated to enter a football ground, would you get it to go and watch the game? They are looking at "clinical passports" for entry. It would be a huge no from me.
It's not based on ground capacity, it's based on which tier each club falls into. Manchester was in tier 3 before the lockdown so if there's no change, fans will still be barred. If Forest Green end up in a lower tier, they'll be allowed to readmit fans despite obviously having a far lower capacity. It's easy to sit and pick this apart but at least it's a step in the right direction.
I know people want to go to sporting events but can we not wait until the vaccines are proved to be efficacious and safe then we could attend in somewhat safer circumstances.i would love to watch rugby again but i think i will wait until safety comes before income.
The EFL chairman Rick Parry has spoken out the needful for anyone, especially football enthusiasts with regard to the decision made by the government to allow fans into stadia. The country is being thrust back to its tiered Covid alert system, and so it is extremely vital that all regions and councils are placed or judged on the tier system as a deciding PassMark for the re-introduction of fans.
I don't think I will be seeing the inside of Anfield this season. Imagine reaching a stage where 4,000 fans are allowed in. How much would those tickets go for? It would be AT LEAST £1000, because that is what Japanese tourists pay in normal times. Offer me £1000 for my ticket to watch us play a Premier League game in a deathly quiet, almost empty Anfield and the seat is yours!
Not just that, but Liverpool fans have repeatedly shown that they are incapable of acting responsibly this year. The last stadium I'd want to attend.
You'd have to pay me much more than that!
Didn't I read somewhere that there will be no singing, chanting,or cheering? So what will be the point of attending?
And as if they can even police that kind of thing.
Their argument will probably be ‘but we’ll keep the ‘pretend’ singing and chanting’.
The point is to experience attending and watching the game, like those in 'corporate suits' do. ;)
Does this mean they would have to rename Man U's "singing section" and call it the "silent section" instead?
thats the emptyhad for you
May be you could do those things if you keep your face covering on all the time.
"Parry added that the financial impact of fans returning could be "very significant" for clubs in Leagues One and Two and even a "lifeline" for sides in the fourth tier."
Clueless again from Parry.
Many teams will LOSE money by only having 2000 or 4000 fans in. They will be largely season ticket holders; so no extra money, but costs for opening the stadium to fans. Better to have no fans.
Clueless again from Parry.
Many teams will LOSE money by only having 2000 or 4000 fans in. They will be largely season ticket holders; so no extra money, but costs for opening the stadium to fans. Better to have no fans.
obvious, and well said.
As said by the Tranmere owner a few weeks back! Low fan numbers costs them more than no fans.
Didn't I read somewhere that there will be no singing, chanting,or cheering? So what will be the point of attending?
I say if rules are not followed shut the grounds back down, that's the simple way to police it
Wonder if the figure includes stewards? If it does then it's likely they'll out number the fans!!
Agreed. Grounds (including my home team) which might be allowed fans will be in tiers 1 and 2, where infection rates seem to be rising rather than falling. I won't be going yet.
Also, most Westminster politicians don't have a clue how real life works. We can space ourselves out round the terraces as in the nice photos, but its the transport and pub before and after which will be dangerous.
Also, most Westminster politicians don't have a clue how real life works. We can space ourselves out round the terraces as in the nice photos, but its the transport and pub before and after which will be dangerous.
And those pinch-points once you're through the turnstyles where crowds mill around the pie & pint concessions, the loos etc. Presumably everyone will be directed straight to their allocated seats and have to remain there for what could be rather more than 2 hours.
I know people want to go to sporting events but can we not wait until the vaccines are proved to be efficacious and safe then we could attend in somewhat safer circumstances.i would love to watch rugby again but i think i will wait until safety comes before income.
As a rugby fan you're surely aware that Rugby Union is due to be the main beneficiary from the recent Govt's planned bail out for sport. Real danger the sport could go to the wall.
If you know people at risk, or have an underlying health issue, then don't go. If you do go, wear a face mask, don't group together in the stadium, and don't all bundle into the same bus on the way home.
If you know people at risk, or have an underlying health issue, then don't go. If you do go, wear a face mask, don't group together in the stadium, and don't all bundle into the same bus on the way home.
A maximum of 4,000 fans!
That is unfair - how come Man City are allowed to have all their fans in with room to spare, whereas other clubs only a small proportion of their fan base are allowed in?
That is unfair - how come Man City are allowed to have all their fans in with room to spare, whereas other clubs only a small proportion of their fan base are allowed in?
Ridiculous comment.
And very funny!
And very funny!
Good luck on United finding 4000 of their fans who live in Manchester!! Fortunately the NW will be in the highest tier so neither united or city will suffer any embarrassment...
That’s naughty, but so very funny ??
Man City could be stopped from playing altogether if there was a minimum of 3,999
very good hahaha
They only go to munch on Betty's hotpot. It's been a long time, but it's still as fresh as it ever was.
Both Manc clubs will be lucky to get 2000, Leicester wont be out of lockdown before 2023
Thanks. I just won a bet on the most predictable and most voted for comment.
At Liverpool we were not asked to pay for our season ticket this season so I imagine most of the 4000 seats will go to corporate , we did get a complimentary bar of special addition Liverpool FC Cadburys chocolate though so every cloud!
Police presence required no doubt !
The Police can’t stop mindless people breaking lockdown
As it is, let alone dealing with fans loitering Outside the grounds.
As others have said...
Season ticket holders will get preference, so no extra cash for clubs , just the cost for opening up.
Daft Parry !
The Police can’t stop mindless people breaking lockdown
As it is, let alone dealing with fans loitering Outside the grounds.
As others have said...
Season ticket holders will get preference, so no extra cash for clubs , just the cost for opening up.
Daft Parry !
I live in the NW of England & am a ST holder @ Prem & nonleague.
I attended several NL games with 300-400 fans before lockdown 2.0
The clubs put a bottle of sanitizer on the gate & a one way system, then basically left the Great British public to themselves. Do not assume that fans behave like you think, they simply don't, they aggregate into big groups & few wear masks, go watch some footage.
I attended several NL games with 300-400 fans before lockdown 2.0
The clubs put a bottle of sanitizer on the gate & a one way system, then basically left the Great British public to themselves. Do not assume that fans behave like you think, they simply don't, they aggregate into big groups & few wear masks, go watch some footage.
That’s why cases are bad in the NW . Rest of the country doing better, says more about you lot.
First Non League rarely have much seating and it’s harder to get people to distance when it’s in terraces because seating you have a designated seat personally I think what needs to happen is for fans to be slowly allowed out of stadiums rather than a mad rush and to have as many exits open as possible. Given that away fans won’t be allowed in you need as many ways out to reduce cramming
I too went to some non league preseason games in August/Sept. They were capped at 300 and small groups scattered around the ground, apart from a group of teenagers, who should have been split up. The only issue I saw was crowding near the bar/snack shed at h/t. They should have clearly marked out queue markers etc, and enforced mask wearing (which they didn't).
I'm all for caution in times like this but there are proportionally more people in your average supermarket if you look at the size of the building and numbers present. They seem to manage.
Er no! I feel like I'm taking a massive risk every time I go to a supermarket. Few people bother to use the sanitizer. Twice recently I've had to ask staff to replenish tissues and fill up sanitizer. Not good enough! I go in, get what I want and get out as quick as I can.
Supermarkets are awful, people only go because they have to. Strangers grabbing in front of you. Terrible
Yess, but people pass through the average supermarket, to shop and then leave - not stay there for about 2 hours.
Supermarkets are a Covid risk but for other reasons, they are classed as essential- attending football games is not essential.
People that would not go to the matches at this time because they NEVER go to matches ANY time seem pretty disgusted by this.
Home delivery football sat in an armchair isn't for everyone, for some it's not a worthwhile pursuit while for others it's all they've ever done.
Always a lot of comments on these threads by those for whom the subject matter will not affect them in anyway shape or form.
Home delivery football sat in an armchair isn't for everyone, for some it's not a worthwhile pursuit while for others it's all they've ever done.
Always a lot of comments on these threads by those for whom the subject matter will not affect them in anyway shape or form.
Please tell me what’s wrong in being an armchair football fan and watching the game. You complaining maybe because you own only a 12in telly.
Football doesn't care about fans that go to games anymore especially the premier league. Are they going to keep the same time games when supporters are allowed back too?. Football now is just about how much they can get off sky and bt.
You sound more like Warren Mitchell.
I have done my 50 years on the terraces, in 50000+ crowds on real uncovered terraces with no seating. I now enjoy being able to watch quality football played under better ground conditions from my armchair.
I know of several season ticket holders who are waiting to hear what the club will be doing from a safety perspective and how constrained they are likely to be and the impact that will have on enjoyment levels before committing to anything. This is about much more than football.
Social distancing at the sports venue may be manageable but how do you keep people apart on the way there and back? Opening up sports venues like this is bound to result in a spike in COVID cases and deaths.
Cases yes... and death rate: How’s that looking now can normal flu? Problem is that 50k is such a massive number but the majority was up until June and needs to be in context of 541,000 deaths last year.
There's a reason the BBC never let us comment on a Lewis Hamilton article.. No one likes him because he's not a nice person.. Still, have to say he did well.. Growing up in the "slums" as he described it.. Middle class idiot
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And hes still achieved more in his life than you ever will. How do you know he isnt a nice person?
Think you’ll find the reason in the mirror. I’m not a Hamilton fan, but wonder how you feel you know him so well that you can express your judgement in a completely unrelated article.
In a crowd of 4000 there could be 50 people with the virus and showing no symptoms. Not worth the risk, even with control measures in place.
I think the idea is that socially distancing should be possible at that number in many stadia. The counter view is that the approach to this virus has a greater impact to quality of life than the virus itself.
4000 flights from Dublin to old trafford snapped up
Well you're paranoid.
Quite why you have been downvoted is beyond me, probably covid 19 deniers.
Agree with you, Tesco's always out of the sanitizer at the main doors, no roll most times to clean trolley handles and to cap it all, they do not police the wearing of masks!, a group of 6 people (cant say which as the BBC police will ban comment!!) walked in and were openly taking the micky out of people with masks on
Agree with you, Tesco's always out of the sanitizer at the main doors, no roll most times to clean trolley handles and to cap it all, they do not police the wearing of masks!, a group of 6 people (cant say which as the BBC police will ban comment!!) walked in and were openly taking the micky out of people with masks on
Very wise. And have you died?
That's why the masks or visors were made mandatory for all, unless exempt. Some like Asda and Morrisons, and Poundland, have sanitising stations just inside the entrance, which most people seem to use. The 1st two seem to sanitise basket and trolley handles, or put out stuff for you to do that if you wish.
I think it is insanity to be honest.
This will be the absolute worst time to do it during winter when the flu is rampant as well as covid.
Madness.
This will be the absolute worst time to do it during winter when the flu is rampant as well as covid.
Madness.
Surely we should expect to see a decrease in flu numbers this winter. Has a nation ever been so hygienic and socially distanced?
what about the school situation ,where millions of students turn up mon to friday along with school staff since sept 3rd .check out the covid cases from 2 weeks after that start date till today VERY SCAREY MARY.
PLACE the stadium fans for 3 hours a week to a fortnight with multi entrance times and exit time procedures . no food or drink to buy, and toilets to be manned by staff wouldnt be mad
PLACE the stadium fans for 3 hours a week to a fortnight with multi entrance times and exit time procedures . no food or drink to buy, and toilets to be manned by staff wouldnt be mad
In reality, a lot of areas will be in Tier 3 so no fans will be allowed for the rest of the season. Take South Yorkshire for example. Both Sheffield clubs, Donny, Barnsley, Rotherham all won't be allowed fans in. Tier 2 areas will allow up to 2000 fans but small clubs only a percentage of that so most fans won't be going. Tier 1 clubs will be allowed 4000 but no areas will be in Tier 1. A SHAMBLES
Perhaps we should wait and see how much of the country is in tiers 1, 2 and 3 before we waste too much breath on this.
Yes. I think the Government are playing a fast one here. Promising fans back in as if to suggest they care and are doing something about it. However, then making most areas Tier 3 knowing full well most clubs won't be allowed fans in anyway. For Tier 2 areas, these clubs will hardly have any fans allowed so most of us won't be able to attend sadly. Tier 1 areas would be as rare as hens teeth.