Wins highlight glorious unpredictability
23/11/2020
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After Dustin Johnson's obvious Masters win, Robert Streb's PGA Tour win last week shows freakish results can still happen in golf, writes Iain Carter.
With Brown and Atlas rambling on like the senile, stuck in the 70s, old farts they are? No thanks. And you can whinge like a 5 year old about sky sports presenters - if Murray wasn’t popular he’d have been booted long ago. The vast majority like his style of commentary, it’s the itsy bitsy forum basement dwellers who think they speak for said majority.
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It is ridiculous to describe a PGA tour victory by Streb, a first class player as a "freakish result". His wedge shot from 159 yards to one foot from the pin must surely be one of the finest shots of 2020.
He was ranked 367 in the world. Seems a bit freaky to me....
Article about relatively unknown players - people complain.
Article about the big names - people complain.
Great to see a story around perseverance of a couple of decent enough pro golfers.
As everyone high handicapper who has hit a shot out of the blue knows - its an unpredictable sport
Article about the big names - people complain.
Great to see a story around perseverance of a couple of decent enough pro golfers.
As everyone high handicapper who has hit a shot out of the blue knows - its an unpredictable sport
Lets just congratulate Streb and Hansen on their wins rather than taking on the BBC labelling of freakish.
Streb stuck doggedly to his game when he got caught and his approach to the 18th on his 2nd play off hole was one of the shots of the season.
Streb stuck doggedly to his game when he got caught and his approach to the 18th on his 2nd play off hole was one of the shots of the season.
Breaking news, golf produces unexpected winners.
I never knew that, whatever next the BBC televising live golf.
I never knew that, whatever next the BBC televising live golf.
With Brown and Atlas rambling on like the senile, stuck in the 70s, old farts they are? No thanks. And you can whinge like a 5 year old about sky sports presenters - if Murray wasn’t popular he’d have been booted long ago. The vast majority like his style of commentary, it’s the itsy bitsy forum basement dwellers who think they speak for said majority.
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Article about relatively unknown players - people complain.
Article about the big names - people complain.
Great to see a story around perseverance of a couple of decent enough pro golfers.
As everyone high handicapper who has hit a shot out of the blue knows - its an unpredictable sport
Article about the big names - people complain.
Great to see a story around perseverance of a couple of decent enough pro golfers.
As everyone high handicapper who has hit a shot out of the blue knows - its an unpredictable sport
Won’t see the usual bunch of basement dwellers commenting as they haven’t got their usual culprits to talk about.
Did amuse me with the commentators (PGA tour) thinking a 15/20mph gust was something akin to where I play where it frequently howls most days of the year. Served up better than normal watching vs them playing darts into the greens.
Did amuse me with the commentators (PGA tour) thinking a 15/20mph gust was something akin to where I play where it frequently howls most days of the year. Served up better than normal watching vs them playing darts into the greens.
Golf is notoriously one of the hardest games to bet on because the field, even after the cut is so big and any given player at any point during the 4 rounds, are capable of putting together a winning run of shots. It’s happened so many times in both Majors and Tour matches.... they come from nowhere and win it....they may be ranked high or low..anyone can do it...why is this win unbelievable
Streb's victory if nothing else highlights that if you play on a course which isn't reliant upon how far you hit it off the tee, anyone can win. No surprise to see kisner up there too (another former winner of the event) who is great with the wedges and putter in hand.
Good win for JB - would have won before now if he could chip, seems to have improved vastly in this area
Good win for JB - would have won before now if he could chip, seems to have improved vastly in this area
It wasn't a quote Decent Field in USA - it was stronger than Europeantour has had in a very long time
to call these freakish results is absolutely disgusting by carter,especially as there were no reports by the bbc on the south african tourney while it was going on,i wonder if he even bothered to watch it.
Freakish is an insult to the dedication and talent of both players. No one wins a PGA or European Tour by sheer luck.
So the guy is 367th in the world and to win is a freak? Reality is anyone down to 1000 in the world is capable of shooting 4 rounds in the 60's. The problem is they don't often get the chance to do so on the big stage. These guys are winning peanuts normally and they have to worry about can they afford to get to the next tournament. It's different stress to the big names. But they can do it.
sport without crowds has been more beneficial for the less known, the best thrive under the spotlight and all I’m seeing now is those that ain’t good enough are producing under limited pressure, the sooner we can go and watch the better
Wouldnt have made much difference in this tournament.
Won’t see the usual bunch of basement dwellers commenting as they haven’t got their usual culprits to talk about.
Did amuse me with the commentators (PGA tour) thinking a 15/20mph gust was something akin to where I play where it frequently howls most days of the year. Served up better than normal watching vs them playing darts into the greens.
Did amuse me with the commentators (PGA tour) thinking a 15/20mph gust was something akin to where I play where it frequently howls most days of the year. Served up better than normal watching vs them playing darts into the greens.
Breaking news, golf produces unexpected winners.
I never knew that, whatever next the BBC televising live golf.
I never knew that, whatever next the BBC televising live golf.
Massive amount of pressure if making the cut is what pays your mortgage. Great to see a little of the golf circuits love and $$ being shared with the lower ranked but still talented. I do wonder where the BBC get off making these comments, as there was zero commentary on either of these 2 events on the BBC, all exhausted from Dustin's scintillating win perhaps?
Streb and Hansen won playing against third rate fields on second rate courses, in an event no one will remember in three weeks time except for them.
Angryjack - just in case (in your blind anger) you missed my comment on your other post, I will repeat it here:
"Angryjack - do you have a fixation with the number three? Time you had your milk and toddled off to bed. Sleep well, and do try and chill out, or at least attend an anger management course."
Assuming you will not read this until Tuesday morning, hope you slept well. Feeling better?
"Angryjack - do you have a fixation with the number three? Time you had your milk and toddled off to bed. Sleep well, and do try and chill out, or at least attend an anger management course."
Assuming you will not read this until Tuesday morning, hope you slept well. Feeling better?
Can anyone name the last three winners on the European Tour,,,,,,NO,,,,,,,
well neither can I and frankly who cares.!
well neither can I and frankly who cares.!
Angryjack - do you have a fixation with the number three? Time you had your milk and toddled off to bed. Sleep well, and do try and chill out, or at least attend an anger management course.
In my humble opinion there was a quality field at the RSM considering UK greats Fleetwood, Hatton, and Rose played.
Angryjack - just in case (in your blind anger) you missed my comment on your other post, I will repeat it here:
"Angryjack - do you have a fixation with the number three? Time you had your milk and toddled off to bed. Sleep well, and do try and chill out, or at least attend an anger management course."
Assuming you will not read this until Tuesday morning, hope you slept well. Feeling better?
"Angryjack - do you have a fixation with the number three? Time you had your milk and toddled off to bed. Sleep well, and do try and chill out, or at least attend an anger management course."
Assuming you will not read this until Tuesday morning, hope you slept well. Feeling better?
A low ranked player on a good day and with luck on his side can win tournaments. By luck I mean the blow of the wind and land of the ball, avoiding divots, etc. Anxiety also plays a big part in golf. Briny Baird was incapable of seeing through victories and hence was the richest player without a victory. Kisner now has a 0/5 record in playoffs - suggesting he doesn't excel in that situation.
A guy who has won before, managed to win again, so the only story here is that on any given week anyone in the field can beat the rest, not just one player. All this talk of ‘freakish result’ is an insult and shows Carter’s lack of knowledge. In pocketing his $1.188m Robert Streb became the 198th golfer to pass $10million in career earnings. I’m sure most of would settle for being that freakish..
I couldn’t agree more! There was nothing freakish about this win! These guys are good as ‘they’ say!
But this win doesn’t suit the agenda of the golfing media at the moment! (Hitting it far is the only way to win nowadays blah blah)
Hitting it far has always been an advantage throughout golfing history but it’s never been the only way to win!
But this win doesn’t suit the agenda of the golfing media at the moment! (Hitting it far is the only way to win nowadays blah blah)
Hitting it far has always been an advantage throughout golfing history but it’s never been the only way to win!
A guy who has won before, managed to win again, so the only story here is that on any given week anyone in the field can beat the rest, not just one player. All this talk of ‘freakish result’ is an insult and shows Carter’s lack of knowledge. In pocketing his $1.188m Robert Streb became the 198th golfer to pass $10million in career earnings. I’m sure most of would settle for being that freakish..
I couldn’t agree more! There was nothing freakish about this win! These guys are good as ‘they’ say!
But this win doesn’t suit the agenda of the golfing media at the moment! (Hitting it far is the only way to win nowadays blah blah)
Hitting it far has always been an advantage throughout golfing history but it’s never been the only way to win!
But this win doesn’t suit the agenda of the golfing media at the moment! (Hitting it far is the only way to win nowadays blah blah)
Hitting it far has always been an advantage throughout golfing history but it’s never been the only way to win!
Plenty of freakish results in the Open Championship which shows what a lottery it can be, Curtis, Hamilton, Laurie, Clarke, Molinari and Lowry, to name a few. All of them, one hit wonders
Not freakish at all.
What it demonstrates is that links golf with British, changeable weather is a great leveller.
What it demonstrates is that links golf with British, changeable weather is a great leveller.
Clarke, Lowry and Molinari are far from one hit wonders. What an idiotic statement.
Plenty of one hit wonders have won other majors. Michael Campbell 2005 Masters (beat Tiger) Lucas Glover 2009 US open, Danny Willett 2016 Masters etc. The PGA Championship often seems to produce a random winner. And theres the legendary two hit wonder Andy North, who won two US opens and did jack all for the rest of hsi career.
The idea that the Open is the only lottery in majors is a myth.
The idea that the Open is the only lottery in majors is a myth.
many sports have a history of a success but no follow up. All sports now have a n elite which is a far larger group and the likes of Federer ; Woods and Phil Taylor are unlikely to be repeated in terms of sport domination. Throw in a slice of lady luck too, esp outside sports.
sport without crowds has been more beneficial for the less known, the best thrive under the spotlight and all I’m seeing now is those that ain’t good enough are producing under limited pressure, the sooner we can go and watch the better
Streb won this in 2014, the year MclLroy last won a Major.
That play off hole was playing 461 yards on Sunday and Streb stiffed his wedge to a few inches after a nice drive. Imagine hitting drive and wedge to a hole that is 461 yards.
These guys play so great they are all freaks, in my eyes.
That play off hole was playing 461 yards on Sunday and Streb stiffed his wedge to a few inches after a nice drive. Imagine hitting drive and wedge to a hole that is 461 yards.
These guys play so great they are all freaks, in my eyes.
Plenty of one hit wonders have won other majors. Michael Campbell 2005 Masters (beat Tiger) Lucas Glover 2009 US open, Danny Willett 2016 Masters etc. The PGA Championship often seems to produce a random winner. And theres the legendary two hit wonder Andy North, who won two US opens and did jack all for the rest of hsi career.
The idea that the Open is the only lottery in majors is a myth.
The idea that the Open is the only lottery in majors is a myth.
Streb won this in 2014, the year MclLroy last won a Major.
That play off hole was playing 461 yards on Sunday and Streb stiffed his wedge to a few inches after a nice drive. Imagine hitting drive and wedge to a hole that is 461 yards.
These guys play so great they are all freaks, in my eyes.
That play off hole was playing 461 yards on Sunday and Streb stiffed his wedge to a few inches after a nice drive. Imagine hitting drive and wedge to a hole that is 461 yards.
These guys play so great they are all freaks, in my eyes.
How do you play a hole that is 461 yards?
I am guessing there is still over 300 yards left when you are sizing up your 4th shot?
Streb, under pressure, had about 8 inches for birdie.
These players are all freaks.
I am guessing there is still over 300 yards left when you are sizing up your 4th shot?
Streb, under pressure, had about 8 inches for birdie.
These players are all freaks.
@Champ20ns: Sorry, how did Michael Campbell “beat” Tiger Woods in winning the ‘05 Masters? Tiger won it!
Meadow finishes 3rd in LPGA tour event.
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Interestingly the article headline tells us she is Northern Irish.
Then we are told in paragraph 1 she is from Northern Ireland.
Paragraph 3 begins with the fact she is from Northern Ireland.
In paragraph 5 it states she is still Northern Irish and in paragraph 6 she is from Jordanstown in Northern Ireland.
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Interestingly the article headline tells us she is Northern Irish.
Then we are told in paragraph 1 she is from Northern Ireland.
Paragraph 3 begins with the fact she is from Northern Ireland.
In paragraph 5 it states she is still Northern Irish and in paragraph 6 she is from Jordanstown in Northern Ireland.
I never knew that, whatever next the BBC televising live golf.