Impressive May scores twice in England win
21/11/2020 | sport | rugbyunion | 1,513
Wing Jonny May scores a superb solo try as England claim an emphatic and entertaining Autumn Nations Cup victory against Ireland at Twickenham.
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21/11/2020 16:53:33 118 39
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England were just better in every position.

Impossible to see past Itoje as Lions capt.

What a try by May, some eejit said last week, that he had lost his pace??

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21/11/2020 17:18:34 76 27
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Can you explain to me why Itoje is the obvious choice for Lions captain?

He’s a brilliant player but has no senior captaincy experience so why do you think he’s such a sure thing?
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21/11/2020 18:02:39 13 5
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Tbh I think the Celts are more likely to follow itojes lead than Farrells. Also as well wrt Farrell if things aren’t going well for England his head drops along with confidence. You need a captain to lead you to the bitter end even when things aren’t looking great on the scoreboard
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21/11/2020 18:22:47 7 1
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Never make your best player Captain, let them play. There is an argument in this sport that there should be 15 Captains on the pitch, lead by example, give your all for each other and the team.
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21/11/2020 18:25:26 6 2
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Impossible to see past Itoje as starting lock for the lions. Immense player.
Captain talk is just nonsense.
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21/11/2020 18:29:31 5 2
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Haskell made a good point about that. Brilliant player but different skills needed to be a captain. Would be good for him to try him for an England game sometime but I think Farrell is getting growing into it more and more
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21/11/2020 19:50:15 4 1
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Burdening a top player with captaincy not always the best move
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21/11/2020 20:52:42 1 6
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Itoje - I hope not, don't think he's got the man-management skills
22/11/2020 08:55:22 0 0
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That’s not what Haskell suggested. Itoje is superb, doesn’t make him captain material
22/11/2020 11:43:42 1 0
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I wish I could lose pace like Jonny May. ??
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21/11/2020 16:54:11 16 6
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Good test for England today against a determined skilful and physical Ireland team. A comfortable win in the end. Onwards and upwards. Ladies won as well....happy days.
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21/11/2020 17:31:05 0 1
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In the end? They were 12 pts ahead at half time. Tbf haven't watched it yet.
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21/11/2020 16:54:33 6 15
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No where near as exciting as the England France match earlier, but May is top draw. The male equivalent of Jess Breach.
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21/11/2020 17:01:34 5 3
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Did you mean Jess Breach the female equivalent of May
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Al
21/11/2020 16:55:01 7 1
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Dominant
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21/11/2020 16:55:10 197 9
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Disappointed Irishman here, congrats England, fantastic defence. Better team won today.
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21/11/2020 16:56:53 57 74
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Not much in it to be fair Roland. Both teams properly fronted up.
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21/11/2020 18:59:07 2 22
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Ireland left a good few scores on the pitch, England got two thanks to May, Ireland need to take their chances.
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21/11/2020 19:12:49 3 11
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Two strong defences made for a closer game than the score indicates. Johnny May was the one spark for England in the first half; his second try one for the scrapbook. I was wondering why Ireland didn't try a short grubber kick or a short chip over the white wall .. and then they did it! Why not earlier? The one bit of genuine footballing flair in a game dominated by grunt & grind.
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21/11/2020 16:55:14 24 19
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England dominated from start to finish on both sides of the ball. Superb.

Laughable to think all the U9 Dads and coaches were calling for BV and Farrell to be dropped in place of the Simmonds brothers. 2 big game players, one the captain, 100+ caps between them ??

Watch out Wales.
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21/11/2020 17:00:01 9 7
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They're called Exeter fans.
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21/11/2020 17:00:24 3 3
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Agreed they all have there ideas on selection but would have no idea how to implement a gameplan.
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21/11/2020 17:22:14 6 2
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I don't understand the insinuation that U9 parents and coaches are more misinformed than others?
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21/11/2020 17:28:58 5 3
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Sorry..? Are you saying bc England won actually the Simmonds bros are not test quality? What a bizarre post.
I take it you are neither an under9 dad or coach but some great rugby prophet above the rest of us..? You strike me as a shortsighted fool.
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21/11/2020 17:47:20 2 2
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EJ. can pick who he likes, and with no disrespect to anyone who played today to abuse those who think Sam Simmons should be in England's training squad of 36 as idiots is a bit harsh.
Don't forget that before his knee injury SS played for England and was considered test quality, and is a far better player now.
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21/11/2020 23:19:46 0 0
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Instead the Quins get smashed by Simmo
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Al
21/11/2020 16:55:17 11 4
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4 in a row against Ireland
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Al
21/11/2020 16:55:40 14 11
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Best team in Northern hemisphere
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21/11/2020 16:56:08 51 17
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Two great wins for the England rugby teams today.

First the women pulling of a very impressive comeback win.

Then the men physically dominating the Irish. The forwards best in the world at the moment.
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21/11/2020 17:33:59 18 14
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What about SA ?.
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Al
21/11/2020 16:56:23 11 4
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England’s forwards are imperious
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21/11/2020 16:55:10 197 9
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Disappointed Irishman here, congrats England, fantastic defence. Better team won today.
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21/11/2020 16:56:53 57 74
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Not much in it to be fair Roland. Both teams properly fronted up.
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21/11/2020 17:25:44 29 2
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Agreed. I'm chuffed, we won, job done but full credit to Ireland who never once looked beaten and definately made progress in the 2nd half. Its almost a shame the 2 penalties happened because we may have had a real nail biter conclusion. Almost... But yes, well played England and Ireland, I think the Irish will learn alot from this and I'm expecting our next meeting to be a more balanced affair.
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21/11/2020 18:24:53 23 3
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Disagree. England were 18-0 with a few mins to go. Clearly the better side throughout. Ireland did well with a scratch side though.
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21/11/2020 18:38:29 21 1
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Think we must have been watching different games. Pretty dominant performance, with only one team ever going to win.
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21/11/2020 16:57:17 14 6
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That was an awesome performance from England against a very strong Irish team.
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21/11/2020 16:57:24 124 12
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After 10 minutes pretty obvious Eng were dominant but Ireland stuck at it. May superb 2rd try.

Whoever said Ryan would have Itoje in his pocket. Lol. Clown.
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21/11/2020 17:44:10 6 41
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I presume you mean Ryan as Itoje had an immense game.
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21/11/2020 16:58:53 23 3
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May is the fastest Peaky Blinder, ay 'ee?
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21/11/2020 17:06:51 15 2
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And I thought it was Freddy Mercury. Ah well
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21/11/2020 18:38:11 0 1
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Yep it was Arfer from Peaky Blinders’ clone
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21/11/2020 16:59:32 8 2
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Dominant England really stuck it to an underwhelming Ireland, good result.
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21/11/2020 16:55:14 24 19
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England dominated from start to finish on both sides of the ball. Superb.

Laughable to think all the U9 Dads and coaches were calling for BV and Farrell to be dropped in place of the Simmonds brothers. 2 big game players, one the captain, 100+ caps between them ??

Watch out Wales.
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21/11/2020 17:00:01 9 7
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They're called Exeter fans.
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21/11/2020 17:11:26 8 8
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Disrespectful. Your other comments are insightful but this one has let you down. The Simmonds brothers will both tour with the Lions but Sam does not fit EJ’s. If he wanted an expansive game then SS would fit just fine. Exeter fans can rightly be proud of the Simmonds brothers so to compare them to uninformed parents is just wrong. Don’t fall into the trap of just dismissing the South West
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21/11/2020 17:39:40 2 2
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.... who probably saw Simmonds' hattrick against Harlequins. He and Vunipola are different No8s. There is room for both. Farrell continues to give silly cynical penalties away which will cost in the long run.
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Mal
21/11/2020 17:00:03 97 14
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Thank you to C 4 for the coverage, the camera work was poor, too may long shots or close ups. Commentary was crap but anything was better than the BBC showing nothing.
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21/11/2020 17:01:28 19 11
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Amazon.
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21/11/2020 17:04:09 17 8
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Amazon was good - no Nolly Waterman.
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21/11/2020 18:57:11 23 15
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The lady in the commentary box talked too much. Whiney voice and overly enthusiastic about every England move. I know it's sexist to say it, but I wish they'd keep the ladies for the women's rugby. I've worn out the mute button today.
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21/11/2020 19:37:15 20 10
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I listen to the Radio 5 commentary now. Fed up of all the token women in men sport.
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21/11/2020 20:09:22 9 5
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BBC showed the Red Roses game earlier, which was fantastic
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21/11/2020 21:38:32 8 10
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The female commentator meant I had to turn the volume down
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21/11/2020 22:02:30 1 5
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Lol well if the BBC had the coverage they would have had to have paid a lot for it and that means spending tax payers money..
22/11/2020 08:17:17 0 6
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living overseas I could not get C4 , so I had to watch the Irish coverage . This was even worse than the game itself .
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21/11/2020 16:55:14 24 19
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England dominated from start to finish on both sides of the ball. Superb.

Laughable to think all the U9 Dads and coaches were calling for BV and Farrell to be dropped in place of the Simmonds brothers. 2 big game players, one the captain, 100+ caps between them ??

Watch out Wales.
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21/11/2020 17:00:24 3 3
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Agreed they all have there ideas on selection but would have no idea how to implement a gameplan.
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21/11/2020 17:00:38 60 7
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How can a side defend for so long and win. Four times the number of tackles than Ireland. Hardly any possession. Efficiency, intensity and power. Ireland are a good side but beaten well today.
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21/11/2020 17:33:08 54 3
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Defence is a major part of Englands game and boy did it work hard today. Ireland one of the best teams in the world at the breakdown were outplayed. Then 2 magic tries from May sealed the game. Well done England!
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21/11/2020 19:37:47 5 2
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Because Ireland had no real clue how to break down England's defence. They would have much preferred a loose game where they could play on the counter and England made sure that such a game was never, ever a possibility. People often forget that one of Eddie Jones' greats skills is knowing how to counter the strengths and threats of the opposition.
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21/11/2020 20:00:25 4 2
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Very similar feel to England v Australia in WC 2019. The play was all Ireland, but at the same time, it never really felt like England wouldn't win.
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21/11/2020 20:21:08 1 2
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TBF a bit of a training game today... practising defence technique. England could have put their foot down, but didn't.
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21/11/2020 20:45:56 0 1
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SA were the best in the world in 2007 with similar tactics. Beast of a pack, and a great kicking fly half and win using their intensity and defence.
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21/11/2020 17:00:48 9 5
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Can’t wait to see what “BOD loves/likes a Guinness “ has to say for himself! Ireland were a distant second ! Bring on the French !
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21/11/2020 17:12:10 1 3
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As opposed to Brian the sense of all reason Moore or Jeremy lucky to have a drop goal Guscott?? Behave
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21/11/2020 17:33:32 0 2
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That would be can’t wait to ‘hear’.
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21/11/2020 17:01:10 7 14
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Strong English pack as always but as we saw in the World Cup last year - what’s plan B when they aren’t able to bully the other team - give that much ball to SH teams and the outcome will be different
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21/11/2020 17:03:08 11 2
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The only SH team that would do well would be the Boks. NZ had this possession in the semi final and were suffocated. Much like they were against the Pumas. And the last time Australia beat England was 5 years ago.
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Mal
21/11/2020 17:00:03 97 14
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Thank you to C 4 for the coverage, the camera work was poor, too may long shots or close ups. Commentary was crap but anything was better than the BBC showing nothing.
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21/11/2020 17:01:28 19 11
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Amazon.
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21/11/2020 17:51:46 4 1
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Amazon is only good,if you have good internet! Alas I don't ??
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Mal
21/11/2020 20:31:04 5 1
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My broadband speed doesn’t allow me to watch Amazon prime on tv.
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21/11/2020 17:01:29 6 9
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Stop watching those anti English videos before the match, you’re becoming an embarrassing little country.
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21/11/2020 17:03:17 3 2
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what videos are they?
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21/11/2020 17:18:20 4 1
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Burning EU flags is so becoming though ?????
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21/11/2020 16:54:33 6 15
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No where near as exciting as the England France match earlier, but May is top draw. The male equivalent of Jess Breach.
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21/11/2020 17:01:34 5 3
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Did you mean Jess Breach the female equivalent of May
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21/11/2020 17:21:10 5 1
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No they mean to annoy people by deliberately naming the younger player as the original and hoping people will get into the whole male/female game thing.

Don’t feed the troll.
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21/11/2020 17:01:35 55 5
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That demonstrated quite powerfully why New Zealand didn't want Gibson-Park and how much trouble Ireland will be in after Sexton retires.
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21/11/2020 17:09:17 24 2
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Where’s John Cooney ? He’s usually good for Ulster, thought he’d get a run
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21/11/2020 17:22:47 4 1
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Yep wrong option after wrong option. He was munched.
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21/11/2020 19:57:18 1 4
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Nonsense. England won deservedly but to dis Gibson-Park is just silly.
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21/11/2020 20:20:58 5 2
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Took you longer to find out why New Zealand didn't want Brad Shields
22/11/2020 05:11:01 0 0
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Against that defence any half would struggle to find rhythm. It was brutal and waiting to pounce, hovering near the line of offside.
22/11/2020 14:05:36 1 0
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Everyone said the same when O'Gara was coming to the end of the line though. It's about allowing your young players some matches to make mistakes and learn the difference in pace the game is played at in internationals. I thought Ireland were very smart to use yesterday's game to do that. It'll give those young guys a reality check and teach them they need to work harder to make the grade.
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21/11/2020 17:01:41 12 6
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England have shown that 10 man rugby is their primary strength. And they probably can win most games with this physicality.

People may be annoyed that certain backs or back rowers aren't playing so that they can watch rugby akin to Japan or All Blacks, but that's not England's game. I think Eddie will layer the attack in more but this forward platform is England's foundation.
That’s why you did not win the World Cup. You need something different! Knob Removed
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21/11/2020 17:10:34 5 1
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Yep. Tbh that’s always been England main asset, imperious pack, ferocious defence and ruthless kicking.
So frustrating when you’re throwing everything at them and then bulldoze you back to your studies.
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21/11/2020 17:02:10 37 8
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Johnny May is such a classy player. He’s one of the few in the England squad (with Itoje) who I find exciting to watch.
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21/11/2020 17:15:44 9 44
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You find watching a forward driving a player backwards in a crunching tackle exciting?
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21/11/2020 18:31:22 5 3
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And great example of a good post match interview - perhaps he could give his captain some tips!
22/11/2020 07:34:35 2 1
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Hes brilliant and even had my non sport watching missus asking why ireland were so slow
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21/11/2020 17:02:16 14 6
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What was that I heard about Farrell and Youngs not being good enough?
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21/11/2020 18:08:36 4 6
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you heard right
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21/11/2020 17:02:27 138 8
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The Eng defence was breath taking, the tackling was frankly awesome.

Looking forward to Wales.
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21/11/2020 17:32:32 27 111
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Apart from when Stockdale went through them like a knife through butter.
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Joe
21/11/2020 17:02:48 2 3
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Typical really when you look at the result at Welford Road ???????
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21/11/2020 17:01:10 7 14
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Strong English pack as always but as we saw in the World Cup last year - what’s plan B when they aren’t able to bully the other team - give that much ball to SH teams and the outcome will be different
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21/11/2020 17:03:08 11 2
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The only SH team that would do well would be the Boks. NZ had this possession in the semi final and were suffocated. Much like they were against the Pumas. And the last time Australia beat England was 5 years ago.
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21/11/2020 17:03:12 7 10
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Not impressed with Farrell for England again. Is he trying too hard or struggling. George Ford should have been on earlier in my view.
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21/11/2020 17:03:16 4 3
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Defending awesome Set piece quality we have a very good team,but you just feel we lack a bit in attack.But give Ireland credit they tackled their hearts out but just where outmuscled.Change of subject which English player won’t be a Lion next year.Bring on Wales.
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21/11/2020 17:03:17 8 3
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Superb performance from the whole team with 5 players putting 20 or more tackles to stifle Ire. Sorry for the players not getting picked but they no know the standard being set by those in front of them.
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21/11/2020 17:01:29 6 9
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Stop watching those anti English videos before the match, you’re becoming an embarrassing little country.
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21/11/2020 17:03:17 3 2
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what videos are they?
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21/11/2020 17:09:38 1 1
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I think it refers to the internal investigation by the FAI regarding a supposedly anti English political video shown to the Rep of Ireland football team as a motivator before they played England recently.
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Mal
21/11/2020 17:00:03 97 14
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Thank you to C 4 for the coverage, the camera work was poor, too may long shots or close ups. Commentary was crap but anything was better than the BBC showing nothing.
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21/11/2020 17:04:09 17 8
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Amazon was good - no Nolly Waterman.
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21/11/2020 17:12:24 1 1
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How much is amazon?
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21/11/2020 17:42:58 30 7
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Nolly talkerman... The one who never uses one word when she can use 40....pkease someone get her some training or to talk less.
Thank you Peter I now know what the high pitched whine was during commentary. It would only be heard properly by a passing Bat and kept interrupting people who knew what they were talking about. It did have a good grasp of the obvious tho' Removed
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21/11/2020 18:10:30 23 8
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I started off watching it on Channel 4 - didn't last 30 seconds after she began speaking - switched to Amazon, phew.
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21/11/2020 17:05:11 24 5
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First ten minutes Ireland looked controlled, then they went back at the set and continued to go back throughout the first half. Itoje again outplayed Ryan, who wasn't bad but ran into better. THose who question Itoje should see that he gives away few penalties these days. Gibson Parke, Lowe etc didn't get out of the blocks. Stopped by a backrow and others. Lawrence growing and strong. Good result
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21/11/2020 19:09:15 7 9
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Maro Itoje will be the first name on the Lions team sheet, no question.
As such, he should get the captaincy of the Lions. SA have done it; but are the old public school boys who run rugby union, ready yet, for a captain like Itoje?
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21/11/2020 17:05:57 42 3
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England - Ridiculous tackle count, incredible number of dominant tackles, a really dominant display - being ultra picky I would’ve liked to have seen a few more scrums but when all said and done it was a good win
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21/11/2020 18:58:51 16 6
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Yeah, imo England have the best back row in the World.
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21/11/2020 19:05:08 2 8
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Maro Itoje will be the first name on the Lions team sheet, no question.
As such, he should get the captaincy of the Lions. SA have done it; but are the old public school boys who run rugby union, ready yet, for a captain like Itoje?
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21/11/2020 16:58:53 23 3
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May is the fastest Peaky Blinder, ay 'ee?
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21/11/2020 17:06:51 15 2
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And I thought it was Freddy Mercury. Ah well
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21/11/2020 23:11:53 0 0
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Movember wins
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21/11/2020 17:06:54 10 7
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This not directed at Irish fans as they superb, but the usual trolls SUCK IT UP LOSERS.
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21/11/2020 17:01:41 12 6
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England have shown that 10 man rugby is their primary strength. And they probably can win most games with this physicality.

People may be annoyed that certain backs or back rowers aren't playing so that they can watch rugby akin to Japan or All Blacks, but that's not England's game. I think Eddie will layer the attack in more but this forward platform is England's foundation.
That’s why you did not win the World Cup. You need something different! Knob Removed
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21/11/2020 17:12:44 1 2
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Eejit!! Take your beating and deal with it!
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21/11/2020 17:07:35 4 17
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Rest of the world are rebuilding for 2023, England are peaking 3 years too early?????
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21/11/2020 17:15:43 1 4
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Looking forward to the inevitable implosion
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21/11/2020 17:17:53 0 1
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So how many of England's XV will not be around in 2023?

Youngs and May, will be getting on a bit, the rest will be around unless they lose their place on form.
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21/11/2020 17:07:41 25 7
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England battered Ireland, immense tackling display but what the hell were Ireland trying to do ?

Literally running into a brick wall, brave not to take any kicks at the posts (5 I think), that’s 15 points turned down..

Well done England, especially Johnny May, he brightened the game up and deserved a brace today
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21/11/2020 18:17:42 2 5
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But those 5 run or kicked penalties gave them possession and field position. Without that pressure they have given it away more to England. It was the correct decision all round
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21/11/2020 17:08:18 3 7
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England and a France are clearly a league above their respective group rivals.
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21/11/2020 17:23:26 0 1
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Let's see how they get on against the Scottish tomorrow first.
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21/11/2020 17:08:56 50 5
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Incredible defensive effort, Launchbury and Itoje outstanding. Fair play to Ireland,
never gave up and deserved something at the end.
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21/11/2020 17:42:16 7 4
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Yes and they got it 7 points.
22/11/2020 05:11:46 0 0
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Runners up ?
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21/11/2020 17:08:58 11 7
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Brilliant from England.
A defensive masterclass.
Only ever one team in it.
SWING LOW !!
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21/11/2020 17:09:00 6 3
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Jones is forging a strong defensive unit, something England have not had in a long time. Game plan was obvious, as it was against Georgia.

Match them up and create that "don't want to lose a breakdown" attitude that has been missing in England colours the last decade.

Irelands try was sumptuous and it had to be. 75mins to NIL score Ireland is mightily impressive
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21/11/2020 17:09:07 51 7
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Impressive defence and physicality, but where's the attack? England at 12-0 should have run away with it, but they keep kicking it away. Thought Underhill was immense and showed why Willis has still got his work cut out to break in to the team.
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21/11/2020 17:33:27 16 17
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Another referee denies him a try
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21/11/2020 18:22:01 6 1
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Agree - Underhill was my MotM
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21/11/2020 18:36:11 7 3
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Agreed - our centres hardly touched the ball and Joseph got it once on the wing. Shows how outstanding May was but I'd like to have seen more front foot running rugby. With glacial Youngs at 9 and orders to kick so much it's not a surprise.
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21/11/2020 18:57:36 2 1
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YAY - totally agree - second half drove me nuts. It was like lets practice our defense by kicking straight to the opposition...
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21/11/2020 17:01:35 55 5
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That demonstrated quite powerfully why New Zealand didn't want Gibson-Park and how much trouble Ireland will be in after Sexton retires.
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21/11/2020 17:09:17 24 2
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Where’s John Cooney ? He’s usually good for Ulster, thought he’d get a run
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21/11/2020 17:32:48 1 1
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Every time Ireland lose its where was? Putting one player in would make all the difference.
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21/11/2020 17:56:14 4 1
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And Luke McGrath on fire for Leinster
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21/11/2020 18:55:35 8 2
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Couldn’t agree more. Coney has been superb for Ulster, but his face doesn’t fit. If he was playing for golden boys Leinster he would feature prominently.
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21/11/2020 18:58:43 3 1
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I'd pick Craig Casey with Ben Healy / Harry Byrne
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21/11/2020 17:09:22 2 15
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Engl-ishy comfortably, but the Englishy beef that emoji is was the difference. Plus one trick eddie got to the ref again, as for Keenan competing in the air he made the keystone cops look professional.
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21/11/2020 17:09:23 7 3
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Top win. Clinical and dominant in all aspects. Pack were excellent (still think there is an Exeter 8 who should be playing though!) May is absolute class but do not know why Thorley isn't also playing. Looks like Glos missed May at Welford Road as well.
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21/11/2020 17:25:18 4 4
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Exeter Number 8 is not heavy enough at international level. Good player though.
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21/11/2020 17:09:29 9 14
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I don’t quite agree with all the plaudits here
Should be so much more to offer from all England with all we have at our disposal.
We just kick kick and more kicking, look what SA did to us in the WC final
Elliot Daly for one, is he ever going to pass though hands, and if does go into the tackle with ball in hand it’s always turnover time
2 much ball given up in opposing 22 in a lot of games
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21/11/2020 17:15:15 3 3
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Muppet
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21/11/2020 17:22:41 0 0
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completely agree about Daly, his missed tackle count is to high for an internationl full back, cant seem to beat the first man, I personaly wouldnt have him in the starting 15 in any position
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21/11/2020 17:25:31 0 0
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I agree. England are nowhere as good as they think they are. Very limited in attack and not enough ball going through the backs. Very dull. Will not attract more people to the game. Far from it.
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21/11/2020 17:26:51 0 0
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But in the final that’s all the Boks did.....kick, kick and kick again...
35
21/11/2020 17:03:17 3 2
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what videos are they?
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21/11/2020 17:09:38 1 1
bbc
I think it refers to the internal investigation by the FAI regarding a supposedly anti English political video shown to the Rep of Ireland football team as a motivator before they played England recently.
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21/11/2020 17:12:56 1 1
bbc
ah OK
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21/11/2020 17:10:03 1 2
bbc
Plan A was clearly to get in some real tackling practice, whilst coming away with win. Will be glad to see the back of Healey and O'Mahoney.
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21/11/2020 17:01:41 12 6
bbc
England have shown that 10 man rugby is their primary strength. And they probably can win most games with this physicality.

People may be annoyed that certain backs or back rowers aren't playing so that they can watch rugby akin to Japan or All Blacks, but that's not England's game. I think Eddie will layer the attack in more but this forward platform is England's foundation.
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21/11/2020 17:10:34 5 1
bbc
Yep. Tbh that’s always been England main asset, imperious pack, ferocious defence and ruthless kicking.
So frustrating when you’re throwing everything at them and then bulldoze you back to your studies.
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21/11/2020 17:10:52 26 4
bbc
England absolutely dominant and Ireland were undone by missed lineouts in key positions. 5 metres out and chance to go 7-5 up but instead go 12-0 down!? World rugby needs to have a look at offsides too. Both teams were offside constantly, ruins the game when first receiver is being tackled almost before he gets the ball, but it's out down as 'aggressive defence'
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21/11/2020 17:21:08 20 20
bbc
Poor referee today, many offside and high tackles missed m
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21/11/2020 17:30:10 8 6
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Not offside, just blistering line-speed!!
429
21/11/2020 18:52:21 0 1
bbc
This is 100% correct. The second English try was so even in the good old days of Irish rugby. The hooker today simply cannot throw in and its not the first time we have butchered set pieces close to the opponents line --- got away with it against Wales but not today. The scrum half is a mistake and you can see why he was not wanted in NZ.
22/11/2020 17:05:01 0 0
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Couldnt agree more,I was saying throughout the game,needs to be looked at,I know refs cant see everyone at all times,but the touch judges need to be more proactive !! Englands tackling was ferocious, and that from a welshman!!
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21/11/2020 17:11:07 2 3
bbc
Good performance and May took both tries well obviously the second so lads put in a performance and got the result.

Ireland lads lost out on those vital positions to get back and the relentless Defence work of England did the job.

Enjoyed the game and results all gone well today for England for the Men and the Ladies v France too.
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21/11/2020 17:00:01 9 7
bbc
They're called Exeter fans.
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21/11/2020 17:11:26 8 8
bbc
Disrespectful. Your other comments are insightful but this one has let you down. The Simmonds brothers will both tour with the Lions but Sam does not fit EJ’s. If he wanted an expansive game then SS would fit just fine. Exeter fans can rightly be proud of the Simmonds brothers so to compare them to uninformed parents is just wrong. Don’t fall into the trap of just dismissing the South West
347
21/11/2020 18:19:59 0 4
bbc
No they won't, Joe is not better than Farrell and Sam is not better than Tom Curry. Really don't get why people rate them so highly
362
21/11/2020 18:24:08 1 1
bbc
Joe has a lot of work to do! He’s a great player and for me better than ford but he needs to breakthrough with England - gatland loves his test match animals! Atm he’s probably sitting 6th choice behind Farrell, sexton russell biggar and Ford
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gg
21/11/2020 17:11:57 4 10
bbc
Ireland are to slow against the top sides and no plan B, England could have upped the game if needed but didn’t need to, Ireland need pace but it’s not in Irish genes so let’s pinch some more foreigners ????
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21/11/2020 17:19:28 1 2
bbc
You're a funny guy, No foreign players historically in England team!! Short memory syndrome.
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ron
21/11/2020 17:36:47 1 0
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if it was any where near a full Irish team I might agree but Ireland blooded10 new players and as a coach I would be worried that England did dominated most of the play but scored only 2 tries from Irelands school boy errors not a great return for the amount of ball England had
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21/11/2020 17:00:48 9 5
bbc
Can’t wait to see what “BOD loves/likes a Guinness “ has to say for himself! Ireland were a distant second ! Bring on the French !
60
21/11/2020 17:12:10 1 3
bbc
As opposed to Brian the sense of all reason Moore or Jeremy lucky to have a drop goal Guscott?? Behave
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21/11/2020 17:56:36 1 1
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Sorry mate “BOD” is a troll who is always on chats about Scotland so though I’d stoop to his level ! Nothing against Ireland, England or good rugby !
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21/11/2020 17:12:14 3 5
bbc
Those calling for Sam Simmonds should look at what happened to Doris today. He is a good player but was regularly smashed backwards by the England pack.

Simmonds was outstanding on Friday night, but I still dont think he is big enough to play #8 at test level.
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21/11/2020 17:15:39 2 2
bbc
Exactly.
270
21/11/2020 17:59:11 1 0
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Fair enough, except that Simmons wouldn't be facing the England defence!!!
36
21/11/2020 17:04:09 17 8
bbc
Amazon was good - no Nolly Waterman.
62
21/11/2020 17:12:24 1 1
bbc
How much is amazon?
70
21/11/2020 17:13:57 3 2
bbc
Free for 30 days
589
21/11/2020 19:41:32 2 1
bbc
Free for 30 days, then £8 a month thereafter. If you place one or more Amazon order every month, then it just about pays for itself, though the Prime delivery service is actually not as good as the next-day one, which costs about £5 each time. There are many more restrictions on Prime than there are on regular next-day deliveries.
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21/11/2020 17:12:31 4 2
bbc
Highlight for me? England’s 2nd half defence. Brutal.
That’s why you did not win the World Cup. You need something different! Knob Removed
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21/11/2020 17:12:44 1 2
bbc
Eejit!! Take your beating and deal with it!
Removed
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21/11/2020 17:09:38 1 1
bbc
I think it refers to the internal investigation by the FAI regarding a supposedly anti English political video shown to the Rep of Ireland football team as a motivator before they played England recently.
65
21/11/2020 17:12:56 1 1
bbc
ah OK
66
21/11/2020 17:12:59 6 1
bbc
Not an England fan but have to say May's try was outstanding, highlight of the game, Ireland looked short of ideas and energy
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21/11/2020 17:13:08 16 5
bbc
Brutal, clinical and ruthless.
Curry and Underhill were incredible...arguably best two flankers in world rugby at moment.
England seem to prefer to play without the ball...and with that defence who can blame them.
But one day we may have to chase a game and what happens then. We need to be better at Plan B.
Turnover ball needs to used better.
Daly is no 15. Either wing or 13.
Bring on Wales.
74
21/11/2020 17:15:06 1 3
bbc
Daly is a far better 15 than the previous option... Malins will grow there but needs time. The bench today showed why experience is important because the game broke up a lot more once the subs came on
78
21/11/2020 17:15:27 2 1
bbc
Not arguably.
285
21/11/2020 18:05:28 1 1
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Think Jamie Ritchie and Hamish Watson may have an issue there
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21/11/2020 17:13:09 10 3
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Stepped up a gear from last week and looked much sharper. Defence was immense, hammered Ireland back on virtually every occasion and made them look fairly ordinary. Also seemed to be looking to move ball through the hands more and better overall balance between kick and pass although appreciate horses for courses. Very much looking forward to the next game!!
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21/11/2020 17:13:12 10 2
bbc
Well played England to a man impressive, we know we can bully teams now need a bit more in attack not sure the three quarters have the right balance
62
21/11/2020 17:12:24 1 1
bbc
How much is amazon?
70
21/11/2020 17:13:57 3 2
bbc
Free for 30 days
324
21/11/2020 18:13:50 0 2
bbc
Thank you Dave.
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21/11/2020 18:15:49 5 5
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I took up the 30-day free trial last week - got an email saying it had been suspended until I update my payt details???? For a free trial??? Absolute garbage, had to watch CH4 today...
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21/11/2020 17:14:39 5 1
bbc
England were fantastic today, credit where it’s due. Ireland need to blood and prepare for 2023 fast. They were smothered by england.
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21/11/2020 19:19:02 0 0
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Finally found an Irish story to comment on then ?
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21/11/2020 17:14:55 9 3
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Remember England were short of three first choice backs: Watson, Nowell and Tuilagi. Great defensive effort and a bit of May Magic in November was enough. An Ireland score 10 mns earlier would have made it interesting. England outplayed Ireland but it didn’t ever feel that they were out of sight until the final couple of minutes.
539
21/11/2020 19:24:19 0 0
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As opposed to Ireland missing first choice OH, 2 centres, full back, loose head and 2 wing forwards. England better side on the day for sure but don’t throw that crap up.
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21/11/2020 17:15:02 9 14
bbc
Not impressed at all. England should have doubled their score. Farrell isn’t good enough at Fly Half. Doesn’t bring the the backs into the game enough. The second half was a dull bore fest. As Matt Dawson said on his commentary, England’s style of play is not attracting a load of new fans to the game. A win is a win, I know, but that was a tedious bore fest.
83
21/11/2020 17:16:22 5 3
bbc
Lol
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21/11/2020 17:21:14 2 0
bbc
Totally agree with this post
It’s pretty turgid stuff
And won’t win you WCs ??
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21/11/2020 17:13:08 16 5
bbc
Brutal, clinical and ruthless.
Curry and Underhill were incredible...arguably best two flankers in world rugby at moment.
England seem to prefer to play without the ball...and with that defence who can blame them.
But one day we may have to chase a game and what happens then. We need to be better at Plan B.
Turnover ball needs to used better.
Daly is no 15. Either wing or 13.
Bring on Wales.
74
21/11/2020 17:15:06 1 3
bbc
Daly is a far better 15 than the previous option... Malins will grow there but needs time. The bench today showed why experience is important because the game broke up a lot more once the subs came on
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21/11/2020 17:58:17 1 0
bbc
Daly has been poor for 12 months or so... His decision making isn't working.. Kicking away ball we should keep in hand. Often running sideways and when he takes the ball into contact more often than not he either loses the ball or coughs up a penalty. He is the worst of our options under a high ball and its 50 / 50bat best in the tackle. And we have better options.
335
21/11/2020 18:16:16 2 0
bbc
Well, he can't catch and he can't tackle but other than that ....
75
21/11/2020 17:15:10 6 11
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After a decade of slating Warrenball, it seems to be working quite well for England now. Eddie learning from the best
88
21/11/2020 17:17:46 5 1
bbc
Really.....I know Welsh rugby is dire at the moment, but the sour grapes do you no credit.
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21/11/2020 17:17:50 3 1
bbc
England don't play Warrenball or anything close to it. I can only assume you're a football fan.
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21/11/2020 17:34:58 0 0
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Welcome back Tom Fordyce!!
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21/11/2020 17:09:29 9 14
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I don’t quite agree with all the plaudits here
Should be so much more to offer from all England with all we have at our disposal.
We just kick kick and more kicking, look what SA did to us in the WC final
Elliot Daly for one, is he ever going to pass though hands, and if does go into the tackle with ball in hand it’s always turnover time
2 much ball given up in opposing 22 in a lot of games
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21/11/2020 17:15:15 3 3
bbc
Muppet
77
21/11/2020 17:15:19 9 3
bbc
Great defending but disappointing that England had so little attacking play throughout the match, especially in the 2nd half.

Against better teams than Ireland can’t get away with defending that much.
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21/11/2020 17:22:18 3 3
bbc
England were drivel in the second half. Same old same old, taking their foot off the gas.
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21/11/2020 17:39:18 2 1
bbc
Oh please. Get real. Every time Eng win it's "wait until they play NZ or SA (I know they smacked us) or Wales or......
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21/11/2020 17:51:12 2 1
bbc
If it'd been a Welsh try Butler and Davies would have been waxing lyrical about 'Welsh brilliance'. Given it was England, it'd have been all down to a lucky bounce...
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21/11/2020 17:13:08 16 5
bbc
Brutal, clinical and ruthless.
Curry and Underhill were incredible...arguably best two flankers in world rugby at moment.
England seem to prefer to play without the ball...and with that defence who can blame them.
But one day we may have to chase a game and what happens then. We need to be better at Plan B.
Turnover ball needs to used better.
Daly is no 15. Either wing or 13.
Bring on Wales.
78
21/11/2020 17:15:27 2 1
bbc
Not arguably.
61
21/11/2020 17:12:14 3 5
bbc
Those calling for Sam Simmonds should look at what happened to Doris today. He is a good player but was regularly smashed backwards by the England pack.

Simmonds was outstanding on Friday night, but I still dont think he is big enough to play #8 at test level.
79
21/11/2020 17:15:39 2 2
bbc
Exactly.
42
21/11/2020 17:07:35 4 17
bbc
Rest of the world are rebuilding for 2023, England are peaking 3 years too early?????
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21/11/2020 17:15:43 1 4
bbc
Looking forward to the inevitable implosion
27
21/11/2020 17:02:10 37 8
bbc
Johnny May is such a classy player. He’s one of the few in the England squad (with Itoje) who I find exciting to watch.
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21/11/2020 17:15:44 9 44
bbc
You find watching a forward driving a player backwards in a crunching tackle exciting?
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21/11/2020 17:21:29 25 2
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And you don't?????
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21/11/2020 17:23:17 15 2
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You don’t?
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21/11/2020 17:25:22 15 2
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Absolutely
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21/11/2020 17:26:00 11 3
bbc
Yes of course. I like variety & a dominant tackle is part of the beautiful game. Sebastien Chabal on Ali Williams, Courtney Lawes on Julien Plisson, bone crunching genius.
But like I said I also like a length of the pitch solo try, or when forwards & backs link up in a choreographed ballet, or a last minute drop goal from Sir Wilkinson... and above all beating the AB, that’s the holy grail.
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21/11/2020 17:28:55 11 2
bbc
Who doesn’t?
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21/11/2020 17:35:22 7 3
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YES I do coz that sort of play breaks opposition sides. Great game today.
327
21/11/2020 18:15:28 4 2
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One of the most satisfying bits
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21/11/2020 18:54:16 5 2
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When the tackles are like the ones England put in today it’s awesome.
568
21/11/2020 19:36:03 4 2
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Yes
723
21/11/2020 20:28:09 2 2
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Yes
916
21/11/2020 22:18:51 2 1
bbc
Yes
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Tim
21/11/2020 22:38:33 1 1
bbc
Stick to Wendyball, my friend.
22/11/2020 12:06:39 2 0
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Yes!
22/11/2020 12:44:30 3 0
bbc
Damn right I do!
Powerful scrum, pushing opponents off the ball - brilliant.
Hard driving mail - love it.
Crunching tackle - more please.
Well timed smother tackle - wonderful.
Jackalling steal - fabulous.
I also enjoy crisp passing, line breaks, dummies and fancy footwork.
It's called rugby!
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21/11/2020 17:16:16 6 1
bbc
England bossed the first half, but were held in the second .... not sure that there was much to cheer about, notwithstanding some excellent individual performances (May, Itoje) and a huge defensive display!
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21/11/2020 17:21:23 2 3
bbc
There wasn’t. The second half was rubbish. A complete bore fest. If they don’t win next week, Ireland will pip them to the final game on points difference. They’ll hammer Georgia.
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21/11/2020 17:15:02 9 14
bbc
Not impressed at all. England should have doubled their score. Farrell isn’t good enough at Fly Half. Doesn’t bring the the backs into the game enough. The second half was a dull bore fest. As Matt Dawson said on his commentary, England’s style of play is not attracting a load of new fans to the game. A win is a win, I know, but that was a tedious bore fest.
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21/11/2020 17:16:22 5 3
bbc
Lol
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21/11/2020 17:16:32 16 3
bbc
England very good in the first half but massively took their foot off the gas in the second half which allowed Ireland to gain a bit of control.
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21/11/2020 17:37:35 11 11
bbc
Then you have no idea of the game of Rugby. They didn't need to score and left that to the opposition. Awesome display of power well done England
85
21/11/2020 17:16:32 8 4
bbc
That try was unbelievable, game was pretty flat until Jonny May decides to score the try of the decade.
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21/11/2020 17:17:02 8 12
bbc
Only an English BBC can look at themselves in the mirror and say18-7 is an “emphatic win”.....don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan but calling it emphatic points to a lack of real smarts ??
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21/11/2020 17:18:55 4 0
bbc
Think it was manner rather than final score.
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21/11/2020 17:19:19 3 0
bbc
It was very dominant. Sometimes it doesn't reflect on the scoreboard. I wish it did, and that is something to work on and why I am not 100% satisfied.
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21/11/2020 17:20:25 1 0
bbc
It was a 4 point win plus a wonder try, against an Ireland team that, lets face it, isn't what it was a few years ago.
Who in the Ireland team makes the Lions at the moment?
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21/11/2020 17:20:34 4 0
bbc
It was an emphatic win. 11 points may not have been an emphatic margin but England were emphatically the better side.
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21/11/2020 17:17:32 11 5
bbc
Great win for England still not the same without the crowd, just one thing do we have to have a woman presenter and a woman pundit, PC madness, plenty of womens sport for them to contribute to.
75
21/11/2020 17:15:10 6 11
bbc
After a decade of slating Warrenball, it seems to be working quite well for England now. Eddie learning from the best
88
21/11/2020 17:17:46 5 1
bbc
Really.....I know Welsh rugby is dire at the moment, but the sour grapes do you no credit.
75
21/11/2020 17:15:10 6 11
bbc
After a decade of slating Warrenball, it seems to be working quite well for England now. Eddie learning from the best
89
21/11/2020 17:17:50 3 1
bbc
England don't play Warrenball or anything close to it. I can only assume you're a football fan.
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21/11/2020 17:07:35 4 17
bbc
Rest of the world are rebuilding for 2023, England are peaking 3 years too early?????
90
21/11/2020 17:17:53 0 1
bbc
So how many of England's XV will not be around in 2023?

Youngs and May, will be getting on a bit, the rest will be around unless they lose their place on form.
91
21/11/2020 17:18:08 28 1
bbc
Great defensive display but I thought it was frustrating that we kept kicking the ball back to them straight after we got it back after defending for 10 mins. Some stupid penalties as well.
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Al
21/11/2020 17:20:43 3 3
bbc
Deliberate tactics. They’ll be looking to test to see that England can defend, turnover or force errors
286
21/11/2020 18:05:29 1 0
bbc
It was a training game... Kick it back and have a run at us again....
783
21/11/2020 20:52:42 0 0
bbc
Know your limitations I think, apart from may we are stuttering a bit going fwds, but step by step. Ford will come back into contention next week for a start, made a couple of nice linking passes but with MT out we have an new centre pairing which is ok but nothing special new guy feeling his way in. If MT were fit add 10pts on to todays score. He is that important and good as the ABs know.....
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21/11/2020 17:01:29 6 9
bbc
Stop watching those anti English videos before the match, you’re becoming an embarrassing little country.
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21/11/2020 17:18:20 4 1
bbc
Burning EU flags is so becoming though ?????
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ron
21/11/2020 17:18:26 5 5
bbc
I would not get carried away with the England win they played against a team with 10 players with few or no caps. both tries came from school boy errors by the Irish less experienced players. the English defence was very good if you are silly enough to keep running at them but when you turn them as seen it is a different matter, the youngsters will learn from this and become better players
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Al
21/11/2020 17:21:29 3 1
bbc
4 in a row against Ireland is reason enough to get carried away buddy
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21/11/2020 17:24:38 0 1
bbc
Aye it's a bit unfair England using such an experienced team against such an inexperienced team.
1
21/11/2020 16:53:33 118 39
bbc
England were just better in every position.

Impossible to see past Itoje as Lions capt.

What a try by May, some eejit said last week, that he had lost his pace??

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21/11/2020 17:18:34 76 27
bbc
Can you explain to me why Itoje is the obvious choice for Lions captain?

He’s a brilliant player but has no senior captaincy experience so why do you think he’s such a sure thing?
102
21/11/2020 17:20:08 20 11
bbc
Nor did Martin Johnson.

Captain has to be in the team, first and foremost, and he is a guaranteed starter.
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21/11/2020 17:26:29 10 8
bbc
Captained Sarries on a number of occasions.
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21/11/2020 17:27:43 4 10
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because Farrell is the only other option
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21/11/2020 17:32:38 12 4
bbc
Because as demonstrated in the World Cup final, your going to need players who can operate with clarity at the highest physical performance. MI might be the best at that in the NH.
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21/11/2020 18:15:29 3 4
bbc
Mainly because he’s one of the very few who is definitely in the Lions Test team. I wouldn’t pick AWJ, Sexton or Farrell in the test team. Ok?
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21/11/2020 18:57:54 2 19
bbc
Alun Wyn-davies looks in Pole position with proviso he doesn't get injured.You need experience as lions captain and understand how Warren Gatland thinks.Itoje or Tom curry could be long shots/.?
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21/11/2020 20:52:06 4 3
bbc
How about because he (and Farrell) are amount the few to be inked on as starters (plus Jamie George)

Dead debate as WF will pick Whinge Jones as captain to ensure the Welsh mafias at BBC rugby get to have him on for years to come ( rather than real legends like England’s 2003 winning team (strangely absent!)
86
21/11/2020 17:17:02 8 12
bbc
Only an English BBC can look at themselves in the mirror and say18-7 is an “emphatic win”.....don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan but calling it emphatic points to a lack of real smarts ??
95
21/11/2020 17:18:55 4 0
bbc
Think it was manner rather than final score.
64
21/11/2020 17:12:44 1 2
bbc
Eejit!! Take your beating and deal with it!
Removed
97
21/11/2020 17:19:17 2 0
bbc
All matches the breakdown too many penalties. It's taken over from the scrum for making it a stop start game.
86
21/11/2020 17:17:02 8 12
bbc
Only an English BBC can look at themselves in the mirror and say18-7 is an “emphatic win”.....don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan but calling it emphatic points to a lack of real smarts ??
98
21/11/2020 17:19:19 3 0
bbc
It was very dominant. Sometimes it doesn't reflect on the scoreboard. I wish it did, and that is something to work on and why I am not 100% satisfied.
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21/11/2020 17:19:28 15 1
bbc
Lots of praise here for England's defence, and rightly so, but we wouldn't need to tackle so much if we didn't keep kicking away possession. With the set piece dominance England had, we really needed to see more in attack.
Ireland's development team showed real commitment and looked a lot better when Murray came on.
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21/11/2020 19:22:26 0 0
bbc
I think that the offensive defence, if you like, from England is a major reason why they create the attacking space they have. I'd say that Ireland's improvement came when Henderson and Connors came on, to bolster their line speed and finally force turnovers
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gg
21/11/2020 17:11:57 4 10
bbc
Ireland are to slow against the top sides and no plan B, England could have upped the game if needed but didn’t need to, Ireland need pace but it’s not in Irish genes so let’s pinch some more foreigners ????
100
21/11/2020 17:19:28 1 2
bbc
You're a funny guy, No foreign players historically in England team!! Short memory syndrome.
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gg
21/11/2020 17:33:24 0 0
bbc
Exactly my point, if your going to pick them make sure they are big or quick ????