Impressive May scores twice in England win
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Wing Jonny May scores a superb solo try as England claim an emphatic and entertaining Autumn Nations Cup victory against Ireland at Twickenham.
Can you explain to me why Itoje is the obvious choice for Lions captain?
He’s a brilliant player but has no senior captaincy experience so why do you think he’s such a sure thing?
He’s a brilliant player but has no senior captaincy experience so why do you think he’s such a sure thing?
Tbh I think the Celts are more likely to follow itojes lead than Farrells. Also as well wrt Farrell if things aren’t going well for England his head drops along with confidence. You need a captain to lead you to the bitter end even when things aren’t looking great on the scoreboard
Never make your best player Captain, let them play. There is an argument in this sport that there should be 15 Captains on the pitch, lead by example, give your all for each other and the team.
Impossible to see past Itoje as starting lock for the lions. Immense player.
Captain talk is just nonsense.
Captain talk is just nonsense.
Haskell made a good point about that. Brilliant player but different skills needed to be a captain. Would be good for him to try him for an England game sometime but I think Farrell is getting growing into it more and more
Burdening a top player with captaincy not always the best move
Itoje - I hope not, don't think he's got the man-management skills
That’s not what Haskell suggested. Itoje is superb, doesn’t make him captain material
I wish I could lose pace like Jonny May. ??
Good test for England today against a determined skilful and physical Ireland team. A comfortable win in the end. Onwards and upwards. Ladies won as well....happy days.
Disappointed Irishman here, congrats England, fantastic defence. Better team won today.
Not much in it to be fair Roland. Both teams properly fronted up.
Ireland left a good few scores on the pitch, England got two thanks to May, Ireland need to take their chances.
Two strong defences made for a closer game than the score indicates. Johnny May was the one spark for England in the first half; his second try one for the scrapbook. I was wondering why Ireland didn't try a short grubber kick or a short chip over the white wall .. and then they did it! Why not earlier? The one bit of genuine footballing flair in a game dominated by grunt & grind.
England dominated from start to finish on both sides of the ball. Superb.
Laughable to think all the U9 Dads and coaches were calling for BV and Farrell to be dropped in place of the Simmonds brothers. 2 big game players, one the captain, 100+ caps between them ??
Watch out Wales.
Laughable to think all the U9 Dads and coaches were calling for BV and Farrell to be dropped in place of the Simmonds brothers. 2 big game players, one the captain, 100+ caps between them ??
Watch out Wales.
Agreed they all have there ideas on selection but would have no idea how to implement a gameplan.
I don't understand the insinuation that U9 parents and coaches are more misinformed than others?
Sorry..? Are you saying bc England won actually the Simmonds bros are not test quality? What a bizarre post.
I take it you are neither an under9 dad or coach but some great rugby prophet above the rest of us..? You strike me as a shortsighted fool.
I take it you are neither an under9 dad or coach but some great rugby prophet above the rest of us..? You strike me as a shortsighted fool.
EJ. can pick who he likes, and with no disrespect to anyone who played today to abuse those who think Sam Simmons should be in England's training squad of 36 as idiots is a bit harsh.
Don't forget that before his knee injury SS played for England and was considered test quality, and is a far better player now.
Don't forget that before his knee injury SS played for England and was considered test quality, and is a far better player now.
Instead the Quins get smashed by Simmo
Agreed. I'm chuffed, we won, job done but full credit to Ireland who never once looked beaten and definately made progress in the 2nd half. Its almost a shame the 2 penalties happened because we may have had a real nail biter conclusion. Almost... But yes, well played England and Ireland, I think the Irish will learn alot from this and I'm expecting our next meeting to be a more balanced affair.
Disagree. England were 18-0 with a few mins to go. Clearly the better side throughout. Ireland did well with a scratch side though.
Think we must have been watching different games. Pretty dominant performance, with only one team ever going to win.
After 10 minutes pretty obvious Eng were dominant but Ireland stuck at it. May superb 2rd try.
Whoever said Ryan would have Itoje in his pocket. Lol. Clown.
Whoever said Ryan would have Itoje in his pocket. Lol. Clown.
I presume you mean Ryan as Itoje had an immense game.
Dominant England really stuck it to an underwhelming Ireland, good result.
England dominated from start to finish on both sides of the ball. Superb.
Laughable to think all the U9 Dads and coaches were calling for BV and Farrell to be dropped in place of the Simmonds brothers. 2 big game players, one the captain, 100+ caps between them ??
Watch out Wales.
Laughable to think all the U9 Dads and coaches were calling for BV and Farrell to be dropped in place of the Simmonds brothers. 2 big game players, one the captain, 100+ caps between them ??
Watch out Wales.
Disrespectful. Your other comments are insightful but this one has let you down. The Simmonds brothers will both tour with the Lions but Sam does not fit EJ’s. If he wanted an expansive game then SS would fit just fine. Exeter fans can rightly be proud of the Simmonds brothers so to compare them to uninformed parents is just wrong. Don’t fall into the trap of just dismissing the South West
Thank you to C 4 for the coverage, the camera work was poor, too may long shots or close ups. Commentary was crap but anything was better than the BBC showing nothing.
The lady in the commentary box talked too much. Whiney voice and overly enthusiastic about every England move. I know it's sexist to say it, but I wish they'd keep the ladies for the women's rugby. I've worn out the mute button today.
I listen to the Radio 5 commentary now. Fed up of all the token women in men sport.
BBC showed the Red Roses game earlier, which was fantastic
The female commentator meant I had to turn the volume down
Lol well if the BBC had the coverage they would have had to have paid a lot for it and that means spending tax payers money..
England dominated from start to finish on both sides of the ball. Superb.
Laughable to think all the U9 Dads and coaches were calling for BV and Farrell to be dropped in place of the Simmonds brothers. 2 big game players, one the captain, 100+ caps between them ??
Watch out Wales.
Laughable to think all the U9 Dads and coaches were calling for BV and Farrell to be dropped in place of the Simmonds brothers. 2 big game players, one the captain, 100+ caps between them ??
Watch out Wales.
How can a side defend for so long and win. Four times the number of tackles than Ireland. Hardly any possession. Efficiency, intensity and power. Ireland are a good side but beaten well today.
Defence is a major part of Englands game and boy did it work hard today. Ireland one of the best teams in the world at the breakdown were outplayed. Then 2 magic tries from May sealed the game. Well done England!
Because Ireland had no real clue how to break down England's defence. They would have much preferred a loose game where they could play on the counter and England made sure that such a game was never, ever a possibility. People often forget that one of Eddie Jones' greats skills is knowing how to counter the strengths and threats of the opposition.
Very similar feel to England v Australia in WC 2019. The play was all Ireland, but at the same time, it never really felt like England wouldn't win.
TBF a bit of a training game today... practising defence technique. England could have put their foot down, but didn't.
Can’t wait to see what “BOD loves/likes a Guinness “ has to say for himself! Ireland were a distant second ! Bring on the French !
Strong English pack as always but as we saw in the World Cup last year - what’s plan B when they aren’t able to bully the other team - give that much ball to SH teams and the outcome will be different
No they mean to annoy people by deliberately naming the younger player as the original and hoping people will get into the whole male/female game thing.
Don’t feed the troll.
Don’t feed the troll.
That demonstrated quite powerfully why New Zealand didn't want Gibson-Park and how much trouble Ireland will be in after Sexton retires.
Where’s John Cooney ? He’s usually good for Ulster, thought he’d get a run
Yep wrong option after wrong option. He was munched.
Nonsense. England won deservedly but to dis Gibson-Park is just silly.
Took you longer to find out why New Zealand didn't want Brad Shields
Against that defence any half would struggle to find rhythm. It was brutal and waiting to pounce, hovering near the line of offside.
Everyone said the same when O'Gara was coming to the end of the line though. It's about allowing your young players some matches to make mistakes and learn the difference in pace the game is played at in internationals. I thought Ireland were very smart to use yesterday's game to do that. It'll give those young guys a reality check and teach them they need to work harder to make the grade.
England have shown that 10 man rugby is their primary strength. And they probably can win most games with this physicality.
People may be annoyed that certain backs or back rowers aren't playing so that they can watch rugby akin to Japan or All Blacks, but that's not England's game. I think Eddie will layer the attack in more but this forward platform is England's foundation.
People may be annoyed that certain backs or back rowers aren't playing so that they can watch rugby akin to Japan or All Blacks, but that's not England's game. I think Eddie will layer the attack in more but this forward platform is England's foundation.
That’s why you did not win the World Cup. You need something different! Knob
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Johnny May is such a classy player. He’s one of the few in the England squad (with Itoje) who I find exciting to watch.
You find watching a forward driving a player backwards in a crunching tackle exciting?
And great example of a good post match interview - perhaps he could give his captain some tips!
What was that I heard about Farrell and Youngs not being good enough?
you heard right
The Eng defence was breath taking, the tackling was frankly awesome.
Looking forward to Wales.
Looking forward to Wales.
Apart from when Stockdale went through them like a knife through butter.
Strong English pack as always but as we saw in the World Cup last year - what’s plan B when they aren’t able to bully the other team - give that much ball to SH teams and the outcome will be different
Not impressed with Farrell for England again. Is he trying too hard or struggling. George Ford should have been on earlier in my view.
Defending awesome Set piece quality we have a very good team,but you just feel we lack a bit in attack.But give Ireland credit they tackled their hearts out but just where outmuscled.Change of subject which English player won’t be a Lion next year.Bring on Wales.
I think it refers to the internal investigation by the FAI regarding a supposedly anti English political video shown to the Rep of Ireland football team as a motivator before they played England recently.
Nolly talkerman... The one who never uses one word when she can use 40....pkease someone get her some training or to talk less.
Thank you Peter I now know what the high pitched whine was during commentary. It would only be heard properly by a passing Bat and kept interrupting people who knew what they were talking about. It did have a good grasp of the obvious tho'
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First ten minutes Ireland looked controlled, then they went back at the set and continued to go back throughout the first half. Itoje again outplayed Ryan, who wasn't bad but ran into better. THose who question Itoje should see that he gives away few penalties these days. Gibson Parke, Lowe etc didn't get out of the blocks. Stopped by a backrow and others. Lawrence growing and strong. Good result
Maro Itoje will be the first name on the Lions team sheet, no question.
As such, he should get the captaincy of the Lions. SA have done it; but are the old public school boys who run rugby union, ready yet, for a captain like Itoje?
As such, he should get the captaincy of the Lions. SA have done it; but are the old public school boys who run rugby union, ready yet, for a captain like Itoje?
England - Ridiculous tackle count, incredible number of dominant tackles, a really dominant display - being ultra picky I would’ve liked to have seen a few more scrums but when all said and done it was a good win
Yeah, imo England have the best back row in the World.
Maro Itoje will be the first name on the Lions team sheet, no question.
As such, he should get the captaincy of the Lions. SA have done it; but are the old public school boys who run rugby union, ready yet, for a captain like Itoje?
As such, he should get the captaincy of the Lions. SA have done it; but are the old public school boys who run rugby union, ready yet, for a captain like Itoje?
May is the fastest Peaky Blinder, ay 'ee?
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England have shown that 10 man rugby is their primary strength. And they probably can win most games with this physicality.
People may be annoyed that certain backs or back rowers aren't playing so that they can watch rugby akin to Japan or All Blacks, but that's not England's game. I think Eddie will layer the attack in more but this forward platform is England's foundation.
People may be annoyed that certain backs or back rowers aren't playing so that they can watch rugby akin to Japan or All Blacks, but that's not England's game. I think Eddie will layer the attack in more but this forward platform is England's foundation.
Eejit!! Take your beating and deal with it!
Rest of the world are rebuilding for 2023, England are peaking 3 years too early?????
So how many of England's XV will not be around in 2023?
Youngs and May, will be getting on a bit, the rest will be around unless they lose their place on form.
Youngs and May, will be getting on a bit, the rest will be around unless they lose their place on form.
England battered Ireland, immense tackling display but what the hell were Ireland trying to do ?
Literally running into a brick wall, brave not to take any kicks at the posts (5 I think), that’s 15 points turned down..
Well done England, especially Johnny May, he brightened the game up and deserved a brace today
Literally running into a brick wall, brave not to take any kicks at the posts (5 I think), that’s 15 points turned down..
Well done England, especially Johnny May, he brightened the game up and deserved a brace today
Incredible defensive effort, Launchbury and Itoje outstanding. Fair play to Ireland,
never gave up and deserved something at the end.
never gave up and deserved something at the end.
Brilliant from England.
A defensive masterclass.
Only ever one team in it.
SWING LOW !!
A defensive masterclass.
Only ever one team in it.
SWING LOW !!
Jones is forging a strong defensive unit, something England have not had in a long time. Game plan was obvious, as it was against Georgia.
Match them up and create that "don't want to lose a breakdown" attitude that has been missing in England colours the last decade.
Irelands try was sumptuous and it had to be. 75mins to NIL score Ireland is mightily impressive
Match them up and create that "don't want to lose a breakdown" attitude that has been missing in England colours the last decade.
Irelands try was sumptuous and it had to be. 75mins to NIL score Ireland is mightily impressive
Impressive defence and physicality, but where's the attack? England at 12-0 should have run away with it, but they keep kicking it away. Thought Underhill was immense and showed why Willis has still got his work cut out to break in to the team.
Another referee denies him a try
Agreed - our centres hardly touched the ball and Joseph got it once on the wing. Shows how outstanding May was but I'd like to have seen more front foot running rugby. With glacial Youngs at 9 and orders to kick so much it's not a surprise.
Every time Ireland lose its where was? Putting one player in would make all the difference.
Couldn’t agree more. Coney has been superb for Ulster, but his face doesn’t fit. If he was playing for golden boys Leinster he would feature prominently.
I'd pick Craig Casey with Ben Healy / Harry Byrne
Top win. Clinical and dominant in all aspects. Pack were excellent (still think there is an Exeter 8 who should be playing though!) May is absolute class but do not know why Thorley isn't also playing. Looks like Glos missed May at Welford Road as well.
Exeter Number 8 is not heavy enough at international level. Good player though.
I don’t quite agree with all the plaudits here
Should be so much more to offer from all England with all we have at our disposal.
We just kick kick and more kicking, look what SA did to us in the WC final
Elliot Daly for one, is he ever going to pass though hands, and if does go into the tackle with ball in hand it’s always turnover time
2 much ball given up in opposing 22 in a lot of games
Should be so much more to offer from all England with all we have at our disposal.
We just kick kick and more kicking, look what SA did to us in the WC final
Elliot Daly for one, is he ever going to pass though hands, and if does go into the tackle with ball in hand it’s always turnover time
2 much ball given up in opposing 22 in a lot of games
completely agree about Daly, his missed tackle count is to high for an internationl full back, cant seem to beat the first man, I personaly wouldnt have him in the starting 15 in any position
I agree. England are nowhere as good as they think they are. Very limited in attack and not enough ball going through the backs. Very dull. Will not attract more people to the game. Far from it.
what videos are they?
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England have shown that 10 man rugby is their primary strength. And they probably can win most games with this physicality.
People may be annoyed that certain backs or back rowers aren't playing so that they can watch rugby akin to Japan or All Blacks, but that's not England's game. I think Eddie will layer the attack in more but this forward platform is England's foundation.
People may be annoyed that certain backs or back rowers aren't playing so that they can watch rugby akin to Japan or All Blacks, but that's not England's game. I think Eddie will layer the attack in more but this forward platform is England's foundation.
England absolutely dominant and Ireland were undone by missed lineouts in key positions. 5 metres out and chance to go 7-5 up but instead go 12-0 down!? World rugby needs to have a look at offsides too. Both teams were offside constantly, ruins the game when first receiver is being tackled almost before he gets the ball, but it's out down as 'aggressive defence'
Poor referee today, many offside and high tackles missed m
This is 100% correct. The second English try was so even in the good old days of Irish rugby. The hooker today simply cannot throw in and its not the first time we have butchered set pieces close to the opponents line --- got away with it against Wales but not today. The scrum half is a mistake and you can see why he was not wanted in NZ.
Couldnt agree more,I was saying throughout the game,needs to be looked at,I know refs cant see everyone at all times,but the touch judges need to be more proactive !! Englands tackling was ferocious, and that from a welshman!!
Good performance and May took both tries well obviously the second so lads put in a performance and got the result.
Ireland lads lost out on those vital positions to get back and the relentless Defence work of England did the job.
Enjoyed the game and results all gone well today for England for the Men and the Ladies v France too.
Ireland lads lost out on those vital positions to get back and the relentless Defence work of England did the job.
Enjoyed the game and results all gone well today for England for the Men and the Ladies v France too.
Disrespectful. Your other comments are insightful but this one has let you down. The Simmonds brothers will both tour with the Lions but Sam does not fit EJ’s. If he wanted an expansive game then SS would fit just fine. Exeter fans can rightly be proud of the Simmonds brothers so to compare them to uninformed parents is just wrong. Don’t fall into the trap of just dismissing the South West
No they won't, Joe is not better than Farrell and Sam is not better than Tom Curry. Really don't get why people rate them so highly
Joe has a lot of work to do! He’s a great player and for me better than ford but he needs to breakthrough with England - gatland loves his test match animals! Atm he’s probably sitting 6th choice behind Farrell, sexton russell biggar and Ford
Ireland are to slow against the top sides and no plan B, England could have upped the game if needed but didn’t need to, Ireland need pace but it’s not in Irish genes so let’s pinch some more foreigners ????
You're a funny guy, No foreign players historically in England team!! Short memory syndrome.
if it was any where near a full Irish team I might agree but Ireland blooded10 new players and as a coach I would be worried that England did dominated most of the play but scored only 2 tries from Irelands school boy errors not a great return for the amount of ball England had
Those calling for Sam Simmonds should look at what happened to Doris today. He is a good player but was regularly smashed backwards by the England pack.
Simmonds was outstanding on Friday night, but I still dont think he is big enough to play #8 at test level.
Simmonds was outstanding on Friday night, but I still dont think he is big enough to play #8 at test level.
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Highlight for me? England’s 2nd half defence. Brutal.
That’s why you did not win the World Cup. You need something different! Knob
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I think it refers to the internal investigation by the FAI regarding a supposedly anti English political video shown to the Rep of Ireland football team as a motivator before they played England recently.
Brutal, clinical and ruthless.
Curry and Underhill were incredible...arguably best two flankers in world rugby at moment.
England seem to prefer to play without the ball...and with that defence who can blame them.
But one day we may have to chase a game and what happens then. We need to be better at Plan B.
Turnover ball needs to used better.
Daly is no 15. Either wing or 13.
Bring on Wales.
Curry and Underhill were incredible...arguably best two flankers in world rugby at moment.
England seem to prefer to play without the ball...and with that defence who can blame them.
But one day we may have to chase a game and what happens then. We need to be better at Plan B.
Turnover ball needs to used better.
Daly is no 15. Either wing or 13.
Bring on Wales.
Daly is a far better 15 than the previous option... Malins will grow there but needs time. The bench today showed why experience is important because the game broke up a lot more once the subs came on
Think Jamie Ritchie and Hamish Watson may have an issue there
Stepped up a gear from last week and looked much sharper. Defence was immense, hammered Ireland back on virtually every occasion and made them look fairly ordinary. Also seemed to be looking to move ball through the hands more and better overall balance between kick and pass although appreciate horses for courses. Very much looking forward to the next game!!
England were fantastic today, credit where it’s due. Ireland need to blood and prepare for 2023 fast. They were smothered by england.
Remember England were short of three first choice backs: Watson, Nowell and Tuilagi. Great defensive effort and a bit of May Magic in November was enough. An Ireland score 10 mns earlier would have made it interesting. England outplayed Ireland but it didn’t ever feel that they were out of sight until the final couple of minutes.
Not impressed at all. England should have doubled their score. Farrell isn’t good enough at Fly Half. Doesn’t bring the the backs into the game enough. The second half was a dull bore fest. As Matt Dawson said on his commentary, England’s style of play is not attracting a load of new fans to the game. A win is a win, I know, but that was a tedious bore fest.
Brutal, clinical and ruthless.
Curry and Underhill were incredible...arguably best two flankers in world rugby at moment.
England seem to prefer to play without the ball...and with that defence who can blame them.
But one day we may have to chase a game and what happens then. We need to be better at Plan B.
Turnover ball needs to used better.
Daly is no 15. Either wing or 13.
Bring on Wales.
Curry and Underhill were incredible...arguably best two flankers in world rugby at moment.
England seem to prefer to play without the ball...and with that defence who can blame them.
But one day we may have to chase a game and what happens then. We need to be better at Plan B.
Turnover ball needs to used better.
Daly is no 15. Either wing or 13.
Bring on Wales.
Daly has been poor for 12 months or so... His decision making isn't working.. Kicking away ball we should keep in hand. Often running sideways and when he takes the ball into contact more often than not he either loses the ball or coughs up a penalty. He is the worst of our options under a high ball and its 50 / 50bat best in the tackle. And we have better options.
After a decade of slating Warrenball, it seems to be working quite well for England now. Eddie learning from the best
Really.....I know Welsh rugby is dire at the moment, but the sour grapes do you no credit.
England don't play Warrenball or anything close to it. I can only assume you're a football fan.
I don’t quite agree with all the plaudits here
Should be so much more to offer from all England with all we have at our disposal.
We just kick kick and more kicking, look what SA did to us in the WC final
Elliot Daly for one, is he ever going to pass though hands, and if does go into the tackle with ball in hand it’s always turnover time
2 much ball given up in opposing 22 in a lot of games
Should be so much more to offer from all England with all we have at our disposal.
We just kick kick and more kicking, look what SA did to us in the WC final
Elliot Daly for one, is he ever going to pass though hands, and if does go into the tackle with ball in hand it’s always turnover time
2 much ball given up in opposing 22 in a lot of games
Great defending but disappointing that England had so little attacking play throughout the match, especially in the 2nd half.
Against better teams than Ireland can’t get away with defending that much.
Against better teams than Ireland can’t get away with defending that much.
England were drivel in the second half. Same old same old, taking their foot off the gas.
Oh please. Get real. Every time Eng win it's "wait until they play NZ or SA (I know they smacked us) or Wales or......
Brutal, clinical and ruthless.
Curry and Underhill were incredible...arguably best two flankers in world rugby at moment.
England seem to prefer to play without the ball...and with that defence who can blame them.
But one day we may have to chase a game and what happens then. We need to be better at Plan B.
Turnover ball needs to used better.
Daly is no 15. Either wing or 13.
Bring on Wales.
Curry and Underhill were incredible...arguably best two flankers in world rugby at moment.
England seem to prefer to play without the ball...and with that defence who can blame them.
But one day we may have to chase a game and what happens then. We need to be better at Plan B.
Turnover ball needs to used better.
Daly is no 15. Either wing or 13.
Bring on Wales.
Those calling for Sam Simmonds should look at what happened to Doris today. He is a good player but was regularly smashed backwards by the England pack.
Simmonds was outstanding on Friday night, but I still dont think he is big enough to play #8 at test level.
Simmonds was outstanding on Friday night, but I still dont think he is big enough to play #8 at test level.
And you don't?????
You don’t?
Absolutely
Yes of course. I like variety & a dominant tackle is part of the beautiful game. Sebastien Chabal on Ali Williams, Courtney Lawes on Julien Plisson, bone crunching genius.
But like I said I also like a length of the pitch solo try, or when forwards & backs link up in a choreographed ballet, or a last minute drop goal from Sir Wilkinson... and above all beating the AB, that’s the holy grail.
But like I said I also like a length of the pitch solo try, or when forwards & backs link up in a choreographed ballet, or a last minute drop goal from Sir Wilkinson... and above all beating the AB, that’s the holy grail.
YES I do coz that sort of play breaks opposition sides. Great game today.
When the tackles are like the ones England put in today it’s awesome.
Yes
Yes!
Damn right I do!
Powerful scrum, pushing opponents off the ball - brilliant.
Hard driving mail - love it.
Crunching tackle - more please.
Well timed smother tackle - wonderful.
Jackalling steal - fabulous.
I also enjoy crisp passing, line breaks, dummies and fancy footwork.
It's called rugby!
Powerful scrum, pushing opponents off the ball - brilliant.
Hard driving mail - love it.
Crunching tackle - more please.
Well timed smother tackle - wonderful.
Jackalling steal - fabulous.
I also enjoy crisp passing, line breaks, dummies and fancy footwork.
It's called rugby!
England bossed the first half, but were held in the second .... not sure that there was much to cheer about, notwithstanding some excellent individual performances (May, Itoje) and a huge defensive display!
Not impressed at all. England should have doubled their score. Farrell isn’t good enough at Fly Half. Doesn’t bring the the backs into the game enough. The second half was a dull bore fest. As Matt Dawson said on his commentary, England’s style of play is not attracting a load of new fans to the game. A win is a win, I know, but that was a tedious bore fest.
England very good in the first half but massively took their foot off the gas in the second half which allowed Ireland to gain a bit of control.
Then you have no idea of the game of Rugby. They didn't need to score and left that to the opposition. Awesome display of power well done England
That try was unbelievable, game was pretty flat until Jonny May decides to score the try of the decade.
Only an English BBC can look at themselves in the mirror and say18-7 is an “emphatic win”.....don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan but calling it emphatic points to a lack of real smarts ??
It was very dominant. Sometimes it doesn't reflect on the scoreboard. I wish it did, and that is something to work on and why I am not 100% satisfied.
It was a 4 point win plus a wonder try, against an Ireland team that, lets face it, isn't what it was a few years ago.
Who in the Ireland team makes the Lions at the moment?
Who in the Ireland team makes the Lions at the moment?
It was an emphatic win. 11 points may not have been an emphatic margin but England were emphatically the better side.
Great defensive display but I thought it was frustrating that we kept kicking the ball back to them straight after we got it back after defending for 10 mins. Some stupid penalties as well.
Deliberate tactics. They’ll be looking to test to see that England can defend, turnover or force errors
It was a training game... Kick it back and have a run at us again....
Know your limitations I think, apart from may we are stuttering a bit going fwds, but step by step. Ford will come back into contention next week for a start, made a couple of nice linking passes but with MT out we have an new centre pairing which is ok but nothing special new guy feeling his way in. If MT were fit add 10pts on to todays score. He is that important and good as the ABs know.....
I would not get carried away with the England win they played against a team with 10 players with few or no caps. both tries came from school boy errors by the Irish less experienced players. the English defence was very good if you are silly enough to keep running at them but when you turn them as seen it is a different matter, the youngsters will learn from this and become better players
Nor did Martin Johnson.
Captain has to be in the team, first and foremost, and he is a guaranteed starter.
Captain has to be in the team, first and foremost, and he is a guaranteed starter.
Because as demonstrated in the World Cup final, your going to need players who can operate with clarity at the highest physical performance. MI might be the best at that in the NH.
Mainly because he’s one of the very few who is definitely in the Lions Test team. I wouldn’t pick AWJ, Sexton or Farrell in the test team. Ok?
Alun Wyn-davies looks in Pole position with proviso he doesn't get injured.You need experience as lions captain and understand how Warren Gatland thinks.Itoje or Tom curry could be long shots/.?
How about because he (and Farrell) are amount the few to be inked on as starters (plus Jamie George)
Dead debate as WF will pick Whinge Jones as captain to ensure the Welsh mafias at BBC rugby get to have him on for years to come ( rather than real legends like England’s 2003 winning team (strangely absent!)
Dead debate as WF will pick Whinge Jones as captain to ensure the Welsh mafias at BBC rugby get to have him on for years to come ( rather than real legends like England’s 2003 winning team (strangely absent!)
Eejit!! Take your beating and deal with it!
All matches the breakdown too many penalties. It's taken over from the scrum for making it a stop start game.
Lots of praise here for England's defence, and rightly so, but we wouldn't need to tackle so much if we didn't keep kicking away possession. With the set piece dominance England had, we really needed to see more in attack.
Ireland's development team showed real commitment and looked a lot better when Murray came on.
Ireland's development team showed real commitment and looked a lot better when Murray came on.
I think that the offensive defence, if you like, from England is a major reason why they create the attacking space they have. I'd say that Ireland's improvement came when Henderson and Connors came on, to bolster their line speed and finally force turnovers
Impossible to see past Itoje as Lions capt.
What a try by May, some eejit said last week, that he had lost his pace??