How the 'Machine' taught the 'Scientist' an Augusta lesson
16/11/2020 | sport | golf | 335
Dustin Johnson's record-breaking Masters victory shows he is close to the complete package as a player, writes Iain Carter.
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16/11/2020 11:24:11 12 1
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Congratulations to him; quite impressive, particularly the way he bounced back after a shaky start.
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16/11/2020 11:24:46 17 6
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The man is a machine “ procession of excellence “as butch quoted. He has some bottle!! Unlike others I won’t mention!
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16/11/2020 11:28:05 34 3
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Imperious display. He gave no one else a sniff. Sadly that meant no excitement coming down the stretch.
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16/11/2020 11:28:36 14 14
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At last, a BBC Golf article that doesn't mention Woods an McIlroy. Long may it continue.
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16/11/2020 11:39:21 25 3
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except that you just did, lol
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17/11/2020 06:07:09 0 1
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Well it's a good job you are here to mention both
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16/11/2020 11:28:46 21 7
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Johnson played very very well indeed. I think the -20 needs an * though. That score will be very hard to achieve again in a standard April tournament. Great win for him nonetheless.

As for Chambo - I guess he will have learnt to keep his thoughts to himself going fwd. He looked very uncomfortable with his -2 after claiming -20 was a near gimme for him. Could haunt him for a while.
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16/11/2020 14:58:37 5 4
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Assume the asterisk for "mudballs caused DJ to lay up otherwise his score would be lower"?
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16/11/2020 11:28:36 14 14
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At last, a BBC Golf article that doesn't mention Woods an McIlroy. Long may it continue.
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16/11/2020 11:39:21 25 3
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except that you just did, lol
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16/11/2020 12:02:36 7 4
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except that it did mention the legend that is Tiger Woods who presented the Green jacket!
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16/11/2020 12:16:55 8 3
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These users are more obsessed with the two players than they suggest the BBC is.
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16/11/2020 11:42:35 33 4
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Terrific result and such a humble gentleman.
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16/11/2020 11:46:59 85 1
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Dechambeau was right, par was 67, but not for him. Johnson hit that perfectly at 20 under. Well played DJ, a very worthy champion.
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16/11/2020 12:05:01 28 3
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Which makes him +18......handicap will take a hit ??
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16/11/2020 11:49:57 34 9
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There will always be one hit wonders who win a so called major, but to win the US Masters at Augusta must surely be the pinnacle of any professional golfer's career ... well played Dustin Johnson, it was a joy to witness your success.
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16/11/2020 11:59:31 37 12
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"to win the US Masters at Augusta must surely be the pinnacle of any professional golfer's career"

Second only to winning the Open.
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16/11/2020 12:16:00 4 7
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I wouldn't class any major as "so called"; they are majors and most of the top players enter them which makes it harder t win than a general tour event. all major winners are well deserved in my view. even if they only win the one. ask Colin Montgomerie, or Lee Westwood or Jason Day. they would love to win a "so called major"
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16/11/2020 14:32:49 6 3
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No doubting that The Masters is special, but The Open & US Open are the pinnacles, and it isn't close - even less so when they are hosted at St Andrews or Pebble Beach.
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16/11/2020 11:56:05 3 2
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A very well deserved win for DJ. I can think of no other golfer in history who makes such a difficult game look so easy when he is in full flow. A pity none of the other 'big names' could give him a run for his money over the weekend!
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16/11/2020 12:28:02 3 1
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You must be very young Brookhouse as plenty have made it look easy. Greg Norman, Ernie Els, Nick Price and Colin Motgomerie all pulverized courses at their best
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16/11/2020 11:56:33 1 2
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Hope you all took my tip for a record low score on board and cashed in!

I didn't ??????
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16/11/2020 12:40:38 3 1
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Dude, I even sent you the odds!
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16/11/2020 11:57:00 2 1
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Well done DJ. Overall the best player by far. In previous majors except one he has been in position to win but faltered. Yesterday there was a slight wobble but he soon recovered and played like the world's number one. The also rans have work to do to reach his standard.
Golf and tiddlywinks have a lot in common, the major difference is the size of the board and how much land it wastes. Removed
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16/11/2020 12:16:19 0 1
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And the lot in common include....
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16/11/2020 12:40:08 0 1
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Couldn't get the hang of tiddlywinks either, huh?
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16/11/2020 11:58:29 7 2
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Great display by DJ....thoroughly deserved. Nice to see Augusta without the distraction of the crowds and see the course in its glory....minus the Azaleas. Pity Sky’s coverage & adverts focused too much on Tiger....
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16/11/2020 12:04:48 14 2
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Much better without the 'patrons' to get great views of the whole course
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16/11/2020 13:47:05 2 1
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And I thought the drone footage was a great addition to the coverage...
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16/11/2020 11:59:07 22 5
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Congratz to DJ, immense performance and a worthy champion. Sad to see Bryson DeShambles finish 18 over par....??
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16/11/2020 11:49:57 34 9
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There will always be one hit wonders who win a so called major, but to win the US Masters at Augusta must surely be the pinnacle of any professional golfer's career ... well played Dustin Johnson, it was a joy to witness your success.
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16/11/2020 11:59:31 37 12
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"to win the US Masters at Augusta must surely be the pinnacle of any professional golfer's career"

Second only to winning the Open.
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16/11/2020 13:48:06 5 1
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Depends if you’re American or British...all about perspective...
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16/11/2020 14:39:12 6 6
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Here is how golf’s big four stack up on prestige, importance to players and ability to draw fans in on television.
4. PGA
3.Open
2. US Open
1. Masters
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16/11/2020 21:52:06 2 2
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"Second only to winning the Open"? Not for an American who was raised close to Augusta. Don't be so small minded.
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17/11/2020 07:41:01 1 0
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I think in fairness the Masters is more sought after than the Open.
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16/11/2020 11:39:21 25 3
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except that you just did, lol
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16/11/2020 12:02:36 7 4
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except that it did mention the legend that is Tiger Woods who presented the Green jacket!
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17/11/2020 06:08:01 1 0
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I can't see that anywhere in the article, though
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16/11/2020 12:03:24 64 3
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One of my all-time favourites is Bernhard Langer, but I'm very uncomfortable watching him putt -- same with Adam Scott. They're just too close for comfort re: anchoring the putter. The same could be said of Bryson??
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16/11/2020 12:55:32 47 5
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Totally right. Not even close to being in the obvious spirit of the game.

Putters should be limited to 37" and swung freely with only the hands contacting the club.
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16/11/2020 13:06:21 5 1
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Completely agree and whilst we are at it where's the debate on length re standard length for driver (and putter)!
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16/11/2020 13:55:03 8 2
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BDC anchors it against his left forearm, quite blatant
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16/11/2020 14:00:51 3 3
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These silly ways of putting are just one reason why I don’t like golf anymore. Cannot take it seriously.
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16/11/2020 11:58:29 7 2
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Great display by DJ....thoroughly deserved. Nice to see Augusta without the distraction of the crowds and see the course in its glory....minus the Azaleas. Pity Sky’s coverage & adverts focused too much on Tiger....
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16/11/2020 12:04:48 14 2
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Much better without the 'patrons' to get great views of the whole course
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16/11/2020 11:46:59 85 1
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Dechambeau was right, par was 67, but not for him. Johnson hit that perfectly at 20 under. Well played DJ, a very worthy champion.
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16/11/2020 12:05:01 28 3
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Which makes him +18......handicap will take a hit ??
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16/11/2020 22:09:27 0 0
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No, it makes him about a -5 Handicapper
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16/11/2020 12:05:38 8 1
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Unless Bryson DC alters his strategy for Augusta there will be no green jacket waiting for him, unless he goes and buy one.
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16/11/2020 12:38:22 7 3
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Might be for the best ... if he'd won one now it probably wouldn't have fitted by April when he has put on another 40lbs of (ahem) muscle.
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16/11/2020 12:06:14 3 1
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Brass Eye back to your footy page where you belong
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16/11/2020 12:09:15 2 2
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Great performance but it wasn't the same for me with how soft the course was. Let's see if he can repeat it in April when the course will be back to it's normal true test.
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16/11/2020 12:12:42 0 1
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True, but a lot of players struggled with putting in the first few rounds due to over-borrowing in the softer conditions. Putts weren't breaking as much in general which, whilst easier in the long run, they wouldn't have been used to that at Augusta.
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16/11/2020 13:45:54 1 1
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Agree it was a great performance but not sure why you think the time of year makes a difference? He played the same course in the same condition as everyone else and spanked them! First of many green jackets for DJ...
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16/11/2020 12:11:52 7 9
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Dustin showed how to do it round Augusta.

You have to give Wood's a 10 for entertainment.

And Rory is already lining up how he plans to win next years and the excuses why he will fail.
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16/11/2020 12:09:15 2 2
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Great performance but it wasn't the same for me with how soft the course was. Let's see if he can repeat it in April when the course will be back to it's normal true test.
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16/11/2020 12:12:42 0 1
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True, but a lot of players struggled with putting in the first few rounds due to over-borrowing in the softer conditions. Putts weren't breaking as much in general which, whilst easier in the long run, they wouldn't have been used to that at Augusta.
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16/11/2020 12:24:16 2 1
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I hear all that, but the condition of the course is the same for everyone, who knows what will happen when it is held in April; lets just enjoy the fact that the guy won it having faltered a few times in the majors. I am happy for him. Hopefully the others Thomas Rahm etc will have their days to come
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16/11/2020 12:14:17 2 2
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Neither a machine nor a scientist. Just a very good player who has thought and practised hard and reaped the rewards plus, by a mixture of good fortune as well as skill, avoided the traps of a relatively benign Augusta.
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16/11/2020 12:15:13 54 6
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Were there not medical staff who could have diagnosed and treated the cause DeChambeau's 'dizziness?' After all, he complained about it after just scraping into the cut. Maybe a couple of humble pies will cure it.
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16/11/2020 12:28:44 4 3
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Should have left for a HIA.
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16/11/2020 14:46:33 0 1
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Actually during the first round.
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16/11/2020 16:22:41 1 1
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What do you call the ailment when you lose a few chromosomes.
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16/11/2020 16:29:52 7 2
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It's funny how every symptom he listed could be ascribed to anxiety. I think he choked, once he realised he couldn't back up his big words.
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17/11/2020 00:14:47 5 0
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BDC's dizziness was probably caused by hypoxia as a result of where he has stuck his head for much of the recent past.
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16/11/2020 11:49:57 34 9
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There will always be one hit wonders who win a so called major, but to win the US Masters at Augusta must surely be the pinnacle of any professional golfer's career ... well played Dustin Johnson, it was a joy to witness your success.
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16/11/2020 12:16:00 4 7
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I wouldn't class any major as "so called"; they are majors and most of the top players enter them which makes it harder t win than a general tour event. all major winners are well deserved in my view. even if they only win the one. ask Colin Montgomerie, or Lee Westwood or Jason Day. they would love to win a "so called major"
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16/11/2020 12:27:41 12 1
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Jason Day has won a Major. He won the 2015 PGA
Golf and tiddlywinks have a lot in common, the major difference is the size of the board and how much land it wastes. Removed
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16/11/2020 12:16:19 0 1
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And the lot in common include....
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16/11/2020 11:39:21 25 3
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except that you just did, lol
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16/11/2020 12:16:55 8 3
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These users are more obsessed with the two players than they suggest the BBC is.
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16/11/2020 12:19:07 8 4
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DeChambeau must have been dizzy off PEDs.
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16/11/2020 12:20:23 7 3
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Absolute quality performance from currently the best player in the world...
Rory,JT and Rahm all in top 10 ... without their best games looks like April is gonna be special
bring it on!
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16/11/2020 12:12:42 0 1
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True, but a lot of players struggled with putting in the first few rounds due to over-borrowing in the softer conditions. Putts weren't breaking as much in general which, whilst easier in the long run, they wouldn't have been used to that at Augusta.
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16/11/2020 12:24:16 2 1
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I hear all that, but the condition of the course is the same for everyone, who knows what will happen when it is held in April; lets just enjoy the fact that the guy won it having faltered a few times in the majors. I am happy for him. Hopefully the others Thomas Rahm etc will have their days to come
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16/11/2020 13:43:23 0 1
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Agreed!
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16/11/2020 12:27:11 139 6
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Got to love that DeChambeau finished behind 63-year-old Bernard Langer who finished last for driving but is still an expert player on the irons and the green.
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16/11/2020 14:01:51 24 5
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So did the great TW
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16/11/2020 12:16:00 4 7
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I wouldn't class any major as "so called"; they are majors and most of the top players enter them which makes it harder t win than a general tour event. all major winners are well deserved in my view. even if they only win the one. ask Colin Montgomerie, or Lee Westwood or Jason Day. they would love to win a "so called major"
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16/11/2020 12:27:41 12 1
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Jason Day has won a Major. He won the 2015 PGA
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16/11/2020 12:32:36 4 5
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so he has; and I bet he doesnt class it as a "so called major"
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16/11/2020 12:27:59 9 2
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DJ was imperious. What a fàntastic tournament for him. Thoroughly deserved and clearly means so much to him.
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16/11/2020 11:56:05 3 2
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A very well deserved win for DJ. I can think of no other golfer in history who makes such a difficult game look so easy when he is in full flow. A pity none of the other 'big names' could give him a run for his money over the weekend!
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16/11/2020 12:28:02 3 1
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You must be very young Brookhouse as plenty have made it look easy. Greg Norman, Ernie Els, Nick Price and Colin Motgomerie all pulverized courses at their best
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16/11/2020 12:39:17 1 1
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They were all fantastic in their respective eras. I think what Brookhouse meant is that DJ has every facet of golf at near on perfect at the moment....as well as monstrous power that blows those guys out of the water. When you keep driving it 300-350 down the fairway and nailing your approach shots time and again, it's pretty damn hard to beat.
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16/11/2020 15:08:22 2 1
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Nobody was more graceful than Seve in his prime. And he hit the ball miles in his early days before his back trouble worsened.
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16/11/2020 12:28:21 72 7
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Actually enjoyed it more without the crowd.
No loonies shouting "get in the hole" or "you're the man" and great views of the course.
Pity we didn't get a tighter finish but fair play to DJ, good job well done.
We need a "pro-ball" though - distances are just ridiculous and making a mockery of the game.
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16/11/2020 13:08:58 12 3
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Not really, re: ball. Stand to be corrected by pretty sure the hardest hole was #5 which measures a measly 450 or so. It’s pretty simple - make the landing areas smaller. You can have decent sized fairways, but be the wrong side of them into certain pins at Augusta and you haven’t got a shot. Let BDC smash it miles, AN just showed that he hasn’t got the consistency
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16/11/2020 14:32:24 8 2
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I agree about views without crowds although I doubt that you have ever heard any loonies yelling at Augusta. One yell like that gets you promptly removed from the grounds by the marshals
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16/11/2020 17:30:44 1 1
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I agree and disagree.

Yes you can do without the sledging, but it was noticeable in both the USPGA and Masters that the players in contention weren't feeling the same pressure without the roars of the crowd echoing around the course.

Also must be a bit strange achieving a lifetime win without the standing ovation around the 18th green.
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16/11/2020 17:34:29 1 1
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Shouting doesn't happen at Augusta. The crowd are Patrons not hooligans.
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Were there not medical staff who could have diagnosed and treated the cause DeChambeau's 'dizziness?' After all, he complained about it after just scraping into the cut. Maybe a couple of humble pies will cure it.
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16/11/2020 12:28:44 4 3
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Should have left for a HIA.
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So, the favourite, the muscular lad who hits it a long way, didn't win.
Instead the 2nd favourite, a muscular lad who hits it a long way, won.
And as far a personality is concerned, there isn't much to choose between them either.
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16/11/2020 12:35:59 12 3
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DJ only leathered it when he absolutely needed to, and was rarely in trouble.

Bison leathered it every time he could and spend half his week in the trees.
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16/11/2020 13:18:17 2 2
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Personality wise, they couldn't be more different. I've never heard DJ shooting his mouth off about what he's going to do, or moaning at rules officials when he's trying to bend the rules. DJ comes across as a very humble guy.
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16/11/2020 12:27:41 12 1
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Jason Day has won a Major. He won the 2015 PGA
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16/11/2020 12:32:36 4 5
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so he has; and I bet he doesnt class it as a "so called major"
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16/11/2020 12:34:18 22 2
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Good to see some new faces in the mix, Smith and Im, now 27th and 18th in the world rankings. Im doesn't get mentioned much by the press, but is now in the top 20 and still only 22 years old. Similar to Rahm at that age, both looking about 40.
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16/11/2020 14:10:44 6 11
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Im looks like he's got a taste for half pound cheese burgers and big pies!
So, the favourite, the muscular lad who hits it a long way, didn't win.
Instead the 2nd favourite, a muscular lad who hits it a long way, won.
And as far a personality is concerned, there isn't much to choose between them either.
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DJ only leathered it when he absolutely needed to, and was rarely in trouble.

Bison leathered it every time he could and spend half his week in the trees.
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16/11/2020 12:38:26 1 5
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It’s Bryson....
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16/11/2020 12:36:43 7 5
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Just love watching DJ play golf. Unbelievable power, hits the ball a country mile....but has incredible consistency with his irons, and great touch and control with the short game. Putting solid as a rock. There's a reason he's number one by a mile. For all the talent Rory has, DJ is the complete package. Rory blows hot and cold, DJ is now a machine.
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16/11/2020 12:42:10 5 7
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Couldn’t agree more, they are miles apart right now, DJ has got great bottle ????????????????
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16/11/2020 12:05:38 8 1
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Unless Bryson DC alters his strategy for Augusta there will be no green jacket waiting for him, unless he goes and buy one.
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16/11/2020 12:38:22 7 3
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Might be for the best ... if he'd won one now it probably wouldn't have fitted by April when he has put on another 40lbs of (ahem) muscle.
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16/11/2020 12:35:59 12 3
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DJ only leathered it when he absolutely needed to, and was rarely in trouble.

Bison leathered it every time he could and spend half his week in the trees.
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16/11/2020 12:38:26 1 5
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It’s Bryson....
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16/11/2020 12:47:32 1 1
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Maybe he intended Bison?
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16/11/2020 12:48:51 3 1
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Quite right. A Bison is an over muscled beast that tries to solve all issues with brute force and by over powering all opponents; whereas Bryson.... Oh hang on a minute
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16/11/2020 12:28:02 3 1
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You must be very young Brookhouse as plenty have made it look easy. Greg Norman, Ernie Els, Nick Price and Colin Motgomerie all pulverized courses at their best
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16/11/2020 12:39:17 1 1
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They were all fantastic in their respective eras. I think what Brookhouse meant is that DJ has every facet of golf at near on perfect at the moment....as well as monstrous power that blows those guys out of the water. When you keep driving it 300-350 down the fairway and nailing your approach shots time and again, it's pretty damn hard to beat.
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16/11/2020 13:56:24 1 1
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Yes that's pretty much what I meant! And Laura - I'm definitely on the 'back 9' of life now - the first golf I remember watching on TV was Gary Player winning the Open in 1974!
Golf and tiddlywinks have a lot in common, the major difference is the size of the board and how much land it wastes. Removed
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16/11/2020 12:40:08 0 1
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Couldn't get the hang of tiddlywinks either, huh?
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16/11/2020 11:56:33 1 2
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Hope you all took my tip for a record low score on board and cashed in!

I didn't ??????
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16/11/2020 12:40:38 3 1
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Dude, I even sent you the odds!
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16/11/2020 12:50:36 2 1
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I totally forgot about it ??
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16/11/2020 12:42:02 34 1
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Neither a Machine or a Scientist, Cam Smith was a breath of fresh air. A golfer who clearly enjoys playing.
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Yes agreed but he looks like something out of the movie deliverance with the mullet and odd facial hair lol ?? hey boy!
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16/11/2020 12:36:43 7 5
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Just love watching DJ play golf. Unbelievable power, hits the ball a country mile....but has incredible consistency with his irons, and great touch and control with the short game. Putting solid as a rock. There's a reason he's number one by a mile. For all the talent Rory has, DJ is the complete package. Rory blows hot and cold, DJ is now a machine.
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16/11/2020 12:42:10 5 7
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Couldn’t agree more, they are miles apart right now, DJ has got great bottle ????????????????
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16/11/2020 13:26:56 1 1
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Faldo hit nail on head when he said Rory needed to improve his accuracy. Butch Harmon first of swing gurus to actually point out what Rory is doing wrong. Maybe he needs a different outlook on his swing and Butch could be the one to change his fortunes....as he did with Woods and Johnson.
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16/11/2020 13:46:57 2 1
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DJ played very well for 4 rounds, the media therefore now make him a shoe in for 18 Majors and years of success. Golf is golf, doesn't anyone remember him beating just one player at the Memorial, scoring back to back 80s? Can't wait until April and he will be tough to beat, but not unbeatable!
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16/11/2020 12:42:43 39 1
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Johnson showed why he is World Number One.

A world class performance from a player at the top of his game.
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16/11/2020 17:35:33 9 2
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Outstanding play through the whole tournament.

He had the joint lowest score on 3 of the 4 days.

But unusually for the Masters he did it by long straight drives, greens in regulation rather than a really hot putter which has been the case for a lot in the past.

When he is fully fit undoubtedly the best in the world at the moment
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16/11/2020 19:47:29 0 2
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Let's just confirm that you're talking about the golfer, Dustin Johnson.
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16/11/2020 12:42:46 0 16
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The US Masters committee really does need to consider some far reaching changes to keep Augusta current. 20 under will become commonplace unless they experience dry & windy conditions. 2, 13 & 15 in particular require more length so that they become the risk/reward holes they once were. It was a very dull watch yesterday.
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16/11/2020 13:13:30 3 1
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I'm sorry Alan but I have to disagree. I watched nearly all the highlights of the 70's and 80's masters that were on during the week, and nearly all of these had guys going into 13 and 15 with medium irons, and wedges & 9 irons into the back nine par 4's. In fact I think these holes played a lot longer this year. There has been many comments of how it once was. But rose tinted glasses.
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16/11/2020 13:46:14 1 1
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First November Masters & first time we've seen a -20, coincidence??
Since 2010 the average winning score is -11.5 & plenty of those have been classics, perhaps do your homework before you spout off in future?
DJ made yesterday "dull" (your words) by the sheer professionalism of his game. Undoubtedly the lack of Patrons & resulting lack of atmosphere added to your perception of dullness?
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Neither a Machine or a Scientist, Cam Smith was a breath of fresh air. A golfer who clearly enjoys playing.
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16/11/2020 12:46:08 11 10
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Yes agreed but he looks like something out of the movie deliverance with the mullet and odd facial hair lol ?? hey boy!
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16/11/2020 12:38:26 1 5
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It’s Bryson....
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16/11/2020 12:47:32 1 1
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Maybe he intended Bison?
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16/11/2020 12:58:32 1 3
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Naaaa just stupid..
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16/11/2020 12:47:59 46 7
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I see the "Scientist", Bison DeShambles, is now blaming his golf ball for spinning too much and will experiment to find one that suits his wedges?
"It was a 110-yard shot and I took it back halfway and went through and it spun back 30 feet...
I've gone through the whole club scenario. That's as much as I can do there. .."
Why not try to develop some actual 'feel'? So pleased his 'method' failed
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16/11/2020 13:13:27 40 13
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he won the US Open so his method has worked. Don't know why people dislike the guy who at least is prepared to go a different way than the heard
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16/11/2020 14:56:51 4 1
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Butch Harmon re DJ. "he has 4 wedges with 3 positions for each, giving him 12 distances". Which is just what Bryson does and almost every tour pro. Not many "feel" players left, maybe Mickelson, Lowry and Harrington and even they use the system to some extent. Bryson is an excellent wedge player, just watch the previous major for proof.
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16/11/2020 16:02:26 1 2
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His form wasn't good this week. That doesn't mean that his "method" doesn't work. He will definitely be winning many tournaments in the future. The length of his drive just takes most of the hazards out of play.
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16/11/2020 21:16:47 0 1
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Apart from Tiger Woods in his prime up to 2008, very few players have won more than one of these majors in a year recently- there are so many top players. To criticise De Chambeau for not winning here to add to the US open is unfair, though his comment on the par may have been asking for trouble.
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16/11/2020 12:38:26 1 5
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It’s Bryson....
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16/11/2020 12:48:51 3 1
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Quite right. A Bison is an over muscled beast that tries to solve all issues with brute force and by over powering all opponents; whereas Bryson.... Oh hang on a minute
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16/11/2020 12:40:38 3 1
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Dude, I even sent you the odds!
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16/11/2020 12:50:36 2 1
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I totally forgot about it ??
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16/11/2020 14:58:46 1 1
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It was a good call. They got the odds wrong, it was there for the taking!
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16/11/2020 12:03:24 64 3
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One of my all-time favourites is Bernhard Langer, but I'm very uncomfortable watching him putt -- same with Adam Scott. They're just too close for comfort re: anchoring the putter. The same could be said of Bryson??
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16/11/2020 12:55:32 47 5
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Totally right. Not even close to being in the obvious spirit of the game.

Putters should be limited to 37" and swung freely with only the hands contacting the club.
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16/11/2020 14:45:42 3 1
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They do all actually stay within the rule, which allows touching the clothing, but it's very close. As for drivers, there is a maximum length and cubic capacity, it has been thought of. Any change would have to give several years notice, as in the past re grooves etc. As stated, the easiest way to restrict length is the severity of the landing areas, as in the last Ryder Cup in France.
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16/11/2020 19:13:20 0 2
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What is your thoughts on utility clubs and the size of driver heads, they have taken away a lot of the skill in ball striking. I find that more troublesome.
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16/11/2020 22:10:28 1 1
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and Drivers limited to 40 inches as well. That would stop a lot of the long distances.
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16/11/2020 12:56:27 17 2
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Woods was so impressed by Johnson he gave him a ten.
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16/11/2020 13:25:06 5 5
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Did I hear weeping and gnashing of teeth at BBC central as ball after ball disappeared in to the drink....
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PL
16/11/2020 12:47:32 1 1
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Maybe he intended Bison?
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16/11/2020 12:58:32 1 3
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Naaaa just stupid..
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16/11/2020 13:00:01 0 3
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Easily the best viewing of the three "majors" but as equally uncompelling as the US Open. At least the PGA had you wondering who was likely to win. However, for me, and probably only me, this set of majors are statistical entities and no more.
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16/11/2020 13:02:13 20 3
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Really wish the BBC would go away with their Dechambeau obsession. A lot of players are big hitters, he's nothing new. He had a poor tournament and yet you're still writing about him in your headline. Stop banging on about him non-stop, it's pathetic.
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16/11/2020 13:09:15 7 6
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well he did win the US Open by 8 shots
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16/11/2020 13:11:14 4 1
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They're writing about him now because they wrote about nobody else in the buildup. Typical press ... overhype someone and then put the boot in.

To be fair, BDC played a lead role in this, promising 400 yard drives and setting himself up with the "par 67" comment.

Once he gets out on a wide open course with fluff for rough, he will probably excel again.
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16/11/2020 13:36:13 5 2
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They mention BDC (winner of the previous major) and people moan. They write about Cameron Smith and Sung-jae Im and people moan they are nobody golfers never to be heard of again and not worth the column inches. Why are so many (not all) golfer HYS commenters such moaners? Read the article, if you like it great, if you don't then fine, but stop whining about it.
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16/11/2020 15:01:40 1 1
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Well they've got to obsess over somebody now Woods is a perfect 10 and Rory can't get up for round 1 anywhere.
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16/11/2020 13:03:33 8 3
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We kept being told that Bryson had revolutionised golf it could never be the same again didnt look like it at Augusta where he was average at best. Dustin did what he does played great golf and won easily . British guys performed well but couldnt challenge this time. Rory played great apart from day 1 which cost him his shot at the green jacket, but hes to good not be in position to win it again.
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16/11/2020 13:14:59 9 2
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Let's be honest, Rory's first round was dreadful and he then chased well, and the top English players did it the other way around, got themselves in prime position after 2 rounds and then faded badly. Neither performance gives me much confidence for their prospects in April.
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16/11/2020 12:03:24 64 3
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One of my all-time favourites is Bernhard Langer, but I'm very uncomfortable watching him putt -- same with Adam Scott. They're just too close for comfort re: anchoring the putter. The same could be said of Bryson??
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16/11/2020 13:06:21 5 1
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Completely agree and whilst we are at it where's the debate on length re standard length for driver (and putter)!
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16/11/2020 12:28:21 72 7
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Actually enjoyed it more without the crowd.
No loonies shouting "get in the hole" or "you're the man" and great views of the course.
Pity we didn't get a tighter finish but fair play to DJ, good job well done.
We need a "pro-ball" though - distances are just ridiculous and making a mockery of the game.
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16/11/2020 13:08:58 12 3
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Not really, re: ball. Stand to be corrected by pretty sure the hardest hole was #5 which measures a measly 450 or so. It’s pretty simple - make the landing areas smaller. You can have decent sized fairways, but be the wrong side of them into certain pins at Augusta and you haven’t got a shot. Let BDC smash it miles, AN just showed that he hasn’t got the consistency
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16/11/2020 14:21:38 2 1
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The 5th was this year a 495 yards par 4, not 450. Not that measly!

Agree with you about the landing areas though.
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17/11/2020 11:21:33 0 0
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Spot on with that - my club course is very short, 6277 off the back tees, but very small undulating greens, so the pros rarely do better than -2 in the pro-am, and the slope index is 131...tougher penalties for being wayward is definitely the answer.....ask Bryson....
Cue the 'nauseating', American flag-waving, jingoistic, vaseline bellies. An American wins on a course designed for Americans... who'd have thought it? Removed
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16/11/2020 13:02:13 20 3
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Really wish the BBC would go away with their Dechambeau obsession. A lot of players are big hitters, he's nothing new. He had a poor tournament and yet you're still writing about him in your headline. Stop banging on about him non-stop, it's pathetic.
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16/11/2020 13:09:15 7 6
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well he did win the US Open by 8 shots
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16/11/2020 16:59:55 1 3
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Every dog has his day just like Danny Willett who won Masters but is just a nobody now in terms of winning tournaments
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16/11/2020 13:09:44 6 6
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I didn't watch it this year. It was such a foregone conclusion that Bryson would win, i didn't see the point.

Obviously he has it stolen from him, same as Trump has the us election stolen from him.
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16/11/2020 13:27:01 1 4
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What a stupid comment. I bet you're the life and soul of any wake ! And it's 'had' not 'has'.
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16/11/2020 13:02:13 20 3
bbc
Really wish the BBC would go away with their Dechambeau obsession. A lot of players are big hitters, he's nothing new. He had a poor tournament and yet you're still writing about him in your headline. Stop banging on about him non-stop, it's pathetic.
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16/11/2020 13:11:14 4 1
bbc
They're writing about him now because they wrote about nobody else in the buildup. Typical press ... overhype someone and then put the boot in.

To be fair, BDC played a lead role in this, promising 400 yard drives and setting himself up with the "par 67" comment.

Once he gets out on a wide open course with fluff for rough, he will probably excel again.
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16/11/2020 13:12:03 17 1
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A great win!

And I hope this finally lays to rest the (still perpetuated) myth that you can't win at Augusta playing with a fade.
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16/11/2020 21:15:45 0 1
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The GOAT never said that six times.
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17/11/2020 00:24:36 0 0
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Butch Harmon mentioned that in one of his comments. He also mentioned that Johnson improved dramatically as a player when he gave up trying to draw the ball and learnt to control his natural fade a bit better.
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16/11/2020 12:47:59 46 7
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I see the "Scientist", Bison DeShambles, is now blaming his golf ball for spinning too much and will experiment to find one that suits his wedges?
"It was a 110-yard shot and I took it back halfway and went through and it spun back 30 feet...
I've gone through the whole club scenario. That's as much as I can do there. .."
Why not try to develop some actual 'feel'? So pleased his 'method' failed
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16/11/2020 13:13:27 40 13
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he won the US Open so his method has worked. Don't know why people dislike the guy who at least is prepared to go a different way than the heard
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16/11/2020 13:27:22 1 3
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Couldn't cope with unusual conditions so goodness knows what's going to happen on a windswept links course. Suspect he may give our Open a miss next year because it doesn't fit in with his agenda....
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16/11/2020 15:21:30 6 2
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Herd
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16/11/2020 16:03:49 4 1
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Especially as he is doing nothing illegal. Most pros will jump at the opportunity to be able to hit their drives 50-100 yards further.
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16/11/2020 16:31:57 5 1
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I respect him trying something different, and who's to say it won't work better for him in the future. I think, however, the reason people wanted to see him fail in this instance was because he came out with the big talk and was a bit cocky beforehand.
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16/11/2020 16:45:38 2 4
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Let the haters hate man, the guys wants to do it his way, fair play, he wants the answer the questions his way, fair play. Just remember, our Mr Ryder Cup Poulter once said he was better than Tiger lol just enjoy the spectacle. Tiger on the 12th, beautiful to watch. Just like Jordan’s melt down, and Rorys too ??
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16/11/2020 19:14:59 0 2
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Even a chocolate watch is right twice a day, he is a one trick pony.
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16/11/2020 12:42:46 0 16
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The US Masters committee really does need to consider some far reaching changes to keep Augusta current. 20 under will become commonplace unless they experience dry & windy conditions. 2, 13 & 15 in particular require more length so that they become the risk/reward holes they once were. It was a very dull watch yesterday.
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16/11/2020 13:13:30 3 1
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I'm sorry Alan but I have to disagree. I watched nearly all the highlights of the 70's and 80's masters that were on during the week, and nearly all of these had guys going into 13 and 15 with medium irons, and wedges & 9 irons into the back nine par 4's. In fact I think these holes played a lot longer this year. There has been many comments of how it once was. But rose tinted glasses.
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16/11/2020 13:56:51 0 2
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I get your point, but they weren't shooting anywhere near 20 under - I just think that with the air time these guys are now achieving, we will see far less intrigue on the Masters back 9. 20+ under will be here to stay. I also think they should cut all the surrounds & remove most of the light semi rough, so that a missed green is a likely dropped shot.
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16/11/2020 13:14:21 1 5
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Bring back John daley. He was unique. Not a robot corporate frontman.
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16/11/2020 13:22:56 0 3
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Golf has always been an excuse for businessmen to get out of the office and have a drink. The problem with Daley was he spent far too much time on the 19th for his own good...
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16/11/2020 13:24:53 1 1
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Robot corporate frontmen (or women) make more money. Why do you think prime Tiger Woods displayed practically no personality. Its the same in any sport, don't get me started on football.

Combat sports like boxing are the only real exception.
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16/11/2020 13:03:33 8 3
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We kept being told that Bryson had revolutionised golf it could never be the same again didnt look like it at Augusta where he was average at best. Dustin did what he does played great golf and won easily . British guys performed well but couldnt challenge this time. Rory played great apart from day 1 which cost him his shot at the green jacket, but hes to good not be in position to win it again.
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16/11/2020 13:14:59 9 2
bbc
Let's be honest, Rory's first round was dreadful and he then chased well, and the top English players did it the other way around, got themselves in prime position after 2 rounds and then faded badly. Neither performance gives me much confidence for their prospects in April.
So, the favourite, the muscular lad who hits it a long way, didn't win.
Instead the 2nd favourite, a muscular lad who hits it a long way, won.
And as far a personality is concerned, there isn't much to choose between them either.
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16/11/2020 13:18:17 2 2
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Personality wise, they couldn't be more different. I've never heard DJ shooting his mouth off about what he's going to do, or moaning at rules officials when he's trying to bend the rules. DJ comes across as a very humble guy.
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16/11/2020 13:22:30 2 1
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Not specifically related to the Masters, but where has The Cut podcast gone? Bring it back, immediately.
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17/11/2020 09:18:46 0 0
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Cost cutting. Had to free up budget to give Gemma Collins & Scarlett Moffatt airtime
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16/11/2020 13:14:21 1 5
bbc
Bring back John daley. He was unique. Not a robot corporate frontman.
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16/11/2020 13:22:56 0 3
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Golf has always been an excuse for businessmen to get out of the office and have a drink. The problem with Daley was he spent far too much time on the 19th for his own good...
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16/11/2020 13:25:54 0 1
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Nothing wrong with that. It's called having fun. I'd rather do that then work till I drop.
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16/11/2020 13:24:37 4 2
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The best part for me was Tiger's 10!
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16/11/2020 13:28:46 1 1
bbc
Same! The only bit of drama to speak of.
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16/11/2020 13:14:21 1 5
bbc
Bring back John daley. He was unique. Not a robot corporate frontman.
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16/11/2020 13:24:53 1 1
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Robot corporate frontmen (or women) make more money. Why do you think prime Tiger Woods displayed practically no personality. Its the same in any sport, don't get me started on football.

Combat sports like boxing are the only real exception.
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16/11/2020 12:56:27 17 2
bbc
Woods was so impressed by Johnson he gave him a ten.
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16/11/2020 13:25:06 5 5
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Did I hear weeping and gnashing of teeth at BBC central as ball after ball disappeared in to the drink....
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16/11/2020 15:00:06 2 2
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No, gave them an excuse to post yet another special one man video. As they know nothing they probably thought 10 was better than 3!
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16/11/2020 13:22:56 0 3
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Golf has always been an excuse for businessmen to get out of the office and have a drink. The problem with Daley was he spent far too much time on the 19th for his own good...
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16/11/2020 13:25:54 0 1
bbc
Nothing wrong with that. It's called having fun. I'd rather do that then work till I drop.
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16/11/2020 12:42:10 5 7
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Couldn’t agree more, they are miles apart right now, DJ has got great bottle ????????????????
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16/11/2020 13:26:56 1 1
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Faldo hit nail on head when he said Rory needed to improve his accuracy. Butch Harmon first of swing gurus to actually point out what Rory is doing wrong. Maybe he needs a different outlook on his swing and Butch could be the one to change his fortunes....as he did with Woods and Johnson.
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16/11/2020 15:48:40 0 5
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Butch Harmon has no idea what he's talking about, just like everyone else associated with Sky Sports Golf.
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16/11/2020 13:09:44 6 6
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I didn't watch it this year. It was such a foregone conclusion that Bryson would win, i didn't see the point.

Obviously he has it stolen from him, same as Trump has the us election stolen from him.
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16/11/2020 13:27:01 1 4
bbc
What a stupid comment. I bet you're the life and soul of any wake ! And it's 'had' not 'has'.
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16/11/2020 15:22:59 2 1
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Irony passed you by then...
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16/11/2020 13:13:27 40 13
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he won the US Open so his method has worked. Don't know why people dislike the guy who at least is prepared to go a different way than the heard
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16/11/2020 13:27:22 1 3
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Couldn't cope with unusual conditions so goodness knows what's going to happen on a windswept links course. Suspect he may give our Open a miss next year because it doesn't fit in with his agenda....
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16/11/2020 13:32:36 1 1
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No elite player is going to miss any of the majors if they can help it.
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TBs
16/11/2020 13:27:23 8 1
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Great player but why does he have to spit all the time?
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Jon
16/11/2020 13:30:26 6 1
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because he is a moron but a damn fine golfer!
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16/11/2020 13:24:37 4 2
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The best part for me was Tiger's 10!
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16/11/2020 13:28:46 1 1
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Same! The only bit of drama to speak of.
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TBs
16/11/2020 13:27:23 8 1
bbc
Great player but why does he have to spit all the time?
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Jon
16/11/2020 13:30:26 6 1
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because he is a moron but a damn fine golfer!
Define moron - inherited or acquired? Removed
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16/11/2020 13:31:05 2 6
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And yet all we had before the masters was Rory Rory Rory.
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16/11/2020 14:45:33 4 1
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Nonsense. Most of the coverage was about Bison
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16/11/2020 17:40:53 1 1
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The BFG was going to demolish the course apparently, RM just kept quiet and slipped into 5 place easy peasy ??????
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16/11/2020 13:31:23 1 8
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where was the traditional pin on 16 for the last round ; one of the highlights I feel for the last 9 at Augusta.

Greens were kept far too soft it seems and only quick for putting on the last round.

Ah well the Masters has its champion; unfortunately a serial spitter and a poor role model.
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16/11/2020 13:36:14 3 1
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I agree about the pin placement on 16.......greens were soft due to crazy rain.....not much they could do about it !
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16/11/2020 13:44:54 1 2
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Wow Nicholas, if you know how to keep rock hard greens @ 13 on the stimp in November & let the Augusta greenkeepers know, you'd be a rich man?!
Not keen on spitting myself (or serial adulterers for that matter) but we all make mistakes Mate?
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16/11/2020 13:27:22 1 3
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Couldn't cope with unusual conditions so goodness knows what's going to happen on a windswept links course. Suspect he may give our Open a miss next year because it doesn't fit in with his agenda....
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16/11/2020 13:32:36 1 1
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No elite player is going to miss any of the majors if they can help it.
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16/11/2020 13:33:11 0 2
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I get the feeling the BBC love a bit of Johnson...
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16/11/2020 13:33:28 2 10
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Johnson's alleged 3 failed drugs tests will continue to haunt him, and in particular how the USA PGA failed to announce his 2nd failed cocaine test and advised him instead to take a '6 months break' from the game after suspending him following the first failed test. I can't abide anyone playing sport who has tested positive for drugs and Johnson falls into this category.
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16/11/2020 13:40:56 7 1
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I'm no fan of drug taking but recreational use isnt systematic cheating like Armstrong, Ben Johnson & the Russian Olympics team is it?
Hope you never make a mistake in life James, if you bump into yourself you wouldnt get a second chance!!
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16/11/2020 13:58:24 6 1
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I've no problem with a reformed cocaine user winning majors. It's the steroid boys and girls who get 2 year bans mostly from athletics and the like that grate most. Athletics is awash with Kenyan,Jamaican and American cheats who are still thriving and earning vast prize money by cheating
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16/11/2020 13:02:13 20 3
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Really wish the BBC would go away with their Dechambeau obsession. A lot of players are big hitters, he's nothing new. He had a poor tournament and yet you're still writing about him in your headline. Stop banging on about him non-stop, it's pathetic.
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16/11/2020 13:36:13 5 2
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They mention BDC (winner of the previous major) and people moan. They write about Cameron Smith and Sung-jae Im and people moan they are nobody golfers never to be heard of again and not worth the column inches. Why are so many (not all) golfer HYS commenters such moaners? Read the article, if you like it great, if you don't then fine, but stop whining about it.
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16/11/2020 13:31:23 1 8
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where was the traditional pin on 16 for the last round ; one of the highlights I feel for the last 9 at Augusta.

Greens were kept far too soft it seems and only quick for putting on the last round.

Ah well the Masters has its champion; unfortunately a serial spitter and a poor role model.
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16/11/2020 13:36:14 3 1
bbc
I agree about the pin placement on 16.......greens were soft due to crazy rain.....not much they could do about it !
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16/11/2020 13:39:28 0 2
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sub air system so commentated about would have dealt with the greens or is that incorrect??
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16/11/2020 13:36:28 6 2
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@ Alan12:42
First November Masters & first time we've seen a -20, coincidence??
Since 2010 the average winning score is -11.5 & plenty of those have been classics, perhaps do your homework before you spout off in future?
DJ made yesterday "dull" (your words) by the sheer professionalism of his game. Undoubtedly the lack of Patrons & resulting lack of atmosphere added to your perception of dullness
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16/11/2020 13:36:14 3 1
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I agree about the pin placement on 16.......greens were soft due to crazy rain.....not much they could do about it !
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16/11/2020 13:39:28 0 2
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sub air system so commentated about would have dealt with the greens or is that incorrect??
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16/11/2020 17:55:43 1 1
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There's only so much "mechanical" systems can do..

The weather won't be controlled??
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16/11/2020 13:33:28 2 10
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Johnson's alleged 3 failed drugs tests will continue to haunt him, and in particular how the USA PGA failed to announce his 2nd failed cocaine test and advised him instead to take a '6 months break' from the game after suspending him following the first failed test. I can't abide anyone playing sport who has tested positive for drugs and Johnson falls into this category.
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16/11/2020 13:40:56 7 1
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I'm no fan of drug taking but recreational use isnt systematic cheating like Armstrong, Ben Johnson & the Russian Olympics team is it?
Hope you never make a mistake in life James, if you bump into yourself you wouldnt get a second chance!!
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16/11/2020 14:03:28 1 4
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Rest assured Stash 13 that I have made many mistkes in my life and had to suffer the consequences. But I have never 'cheated' in sports by taking any drugs, recreational or otherwise. Ask yourself why the USA PGA 'covered-up' Johnson's last positive test for cocaine!
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16/11/2020 13:42:55 3 1
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Well done Johnson and the deserved winner with a masterclass display of controlled golf over four days. Without doubt the world number one who mastered a very difficult and challenging golf course with great skill and finesse. 20 under par is a staggering achievement.
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16/11/2020 12:24:16 2 1
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I hear all that, but the condition of the course is the same for everyone, who knows what will happen when it is held in April; lets just enjoy the fact that the guy won it having faltered a few times in the majors. I am happy for him. Hopefully the others Thomas Rahm etc will have their days to come
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16/11/2020 13:43:23 0 1
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Agreed!