What price Woods making history in golf's new gambling era?
19/10/2020 | sport | golf | 178
As Tiger Woods goes in search of a record-breaking 83rd PGA Tour win at a course on which he has won five times, Iain Carter rails against the new gambling regime adopted by the game in the US.
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19/10/2020 17:46:36 30 2
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Although many of the regular Tour players don't compete for the prize money itself - they have enough in the bank already - there are some who could potentially become tempted? Maybe miss the odd putt here and there, or swing out of their shoes to try to get that longest drive accolade even though they might run out of fairway. Or even throw a hole in a Match Play competition? Just saying...
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19/10/2020 18:53:21 13 1
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This might be more true on the developmental tours, the same way most of the tennis betting scandals involve the lesser lights at minor events that still have odds available.
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19/10/2020 21:05:36 1 0
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I’d have thought this was a certainty!
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20/10/2020 07:40:20 0 0
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It will happen. Definitely
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Si
19/10/2020 17:48:35 8 4
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His body is gone. So no. Not a chance. He should never have bulked up, he was a fine athlete without it. De Shambles will be the next with a body that is worn out.
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19/10/2020 19:12:31 1 2
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De Shambles. What;s with the name calling
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19/10/2020 17:49:18 81 10
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BBC pushing Woods, just like they write more about McIlroy at the CJ Cup even though he finish miles behind Hatton.

McIlroy hits a 66 and gets an article, but not a word on Hattons 65 the previous day.

The facts show the BBC are biased and it stinks.

BBC - Please report on the best in a toutnament, not just your favourites.
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19/10/2020 18:32:54 25 37
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Perhaps when Hatton does it consistently for 10 years he'll get the headlines more often?
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20/10/2020 07:28:12 9 1
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A quick search of the golf front page on the BBC website today shows 4 articles with Hatton in the title. A search will find you five more articles where Hatton is the focus of the article in the last two weeks.
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20/10/2020 11:33:14 4 2
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Why the BBC would comment on the former world number (who has been there for more weeks than anyone else is ever likely to be), has won 15 majors (only bettered by one man), and is tied for the all time PGA tour wins (and trying to beat it) is beyond me as well.

Oh wait...
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20/10/2020 16:52:58 0 0
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So you can't understand why RM and TW get more written about them? really? You're comment all about them is currently the highest rated on here and has spawned a load or replies and interest from others. But you still can't work out why the BBC give them more coverage? Like it or not people engage with articles about them more than the others, hence your 75 thumbs up and counting.
Fair play to Newcastle fans for raising 20k for charity. Can't comment on the football page because of bbc censorship Removed
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19/10/2020 18:10:45 0 0
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why not is there no HYS cannot be barred from one part of the BBC site surely?
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jmw
19/10/2020 18:09:44 72 1
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Sadly it’s poisonous. The whole betting company approach to football in this country is to show that without money riding on the outcome you are somehow missing out. The thrill of the sporting event itself is no longer enough. Apps make it easy to place bets in a second. Also in tv advertising land nobody ever loses when they place a bet, it’s all about the thrill of winning......
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19/10/2020 19:11:33 49 0
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Sky sports peddle gambling with there TV products and are at the epicentre of this poisonous mess.
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19/10/2020 18:10:26 10 22
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Before the 'Tiger haters' jump onboard.... it always feels like a major now whenever Tiger tees it up. It will become less frequent so we should be enjoying what little golf we see of this great player, some would say the greatest sportsman of his generation.
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19/10/2020 18:14:08 19 6
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If he kept his morals at the same high standard as his golf has achieved there would be no need to lead as you have, remember on this HYS you started it!!
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19/10/2020 18:43:10 4 4
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I do enjoy every competition he tees up because I know we're one closer to witnessing the end of it ??
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19/10/2020 19:53:24 3 2
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Best golfer of all time probably sportsman never self centred git
Fair play to Newcastle fans for raising 20k for charity. Can't comment on the football page because of bbc censorship Removed
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19/10/2020 18:10:45 0 0
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why not is there no HYS cannot be barred from one part of the BBC site surely?
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19/10/2020 18:12:05 34 2
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I wonder how many people have not gambled upon hearing the slogan "When the fun stops, stop"? A rather unexpected and depressing article.
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19/10/2020 18:12:07 13 2
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Yep and Bobby Charlton to be leading Premiership goal scorer this season.
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19/10/2020 18:10:26 10 22
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Before the 'Tiger haters' jump onboard.... it always feels like a major now whenever Tiger tees it up. It will become less frequent so we should be enjoying what little golf we see of this great player, some would say the greatest sportsman of his generation.
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19/10/2020 18:14:08 19 6
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If he kept his morals at the same high standard as his golf has achieved there would be no need to lead as you have, remember on this HYS you started it!!
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19/10/2020 18:18:45 1 6
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Tiger tiger Burning bright, win another major, right???
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19/10/2020 18:32:17 13 0
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I won't be rushing to back him, even at 28-1.
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19/10/2020 17:49:18 81 10
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BBC pushing Woods, just like they write more about McIlroy at the CJ Cup even though he finish miles behind Hatton.

McIlroy hits a 66 and gets an article, but not a word on Hattons 65 the previous day.

The facts show the BBC are biased and it stinks.

BBC - Please report on the best in a toutnament, not just your favourites.
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19/10/2020 18:32:54 25 37
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Perhaps when Hatton does it consistently for 10 years he'll get the headlines more often?
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19/10/2020 18:38:08 2 2
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6 shots dropped in the last 5 holes though...
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20/10/2020 05:45:51 2 2
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Not the point I love Fergie was making...in fact, as Rory M has been consistently good for 10 years - perhaps even more kudos to Mr H for 'besting' Rory on this occasion. At least give him a praise where it is due paragraph even if RM rightly attracts the column inches
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20/10/2020 07:03:39 6 2
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Has McIlroy been 'consistently good'? I'd hate to see what playing poorly is if that's the case!
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20/10/2020 20:16:43 0 0
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Remind me, what did Rory shoot on the Sunday? He has one of the highest final day averages scores. Should have won so much more with talent.
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19/10/2020 18:33:10 11 1
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Golf betting!!! 1 winner out of 72, guess who wins EVERYTIME ?
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19/10/2020 18:34:23 15 1
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I apply the Henry Longhurst test: would the great man have approved? Well, he certainly enjoyed a drink or three and I'm inclined to believe he was tempted by the odd flutter. And I'm enthused by the thought of Peter Allis replacing Ray Winstone as the face of free-six-five bettin'. My proviso would be keep betting logos off apparel and bags and absolutely no TV advertising during live play.
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19/10/2020 18:36:14 13 2
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"Albeit" is one word, Iain. ??
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20/10/2020 05:50:33 7 0
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Albeits are off? :-)
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19/10/2020 18:32:54 25 37
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Perhaps when Hatton does it consistently for 10 years he'll get the headlines more often?
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19/10/2020 18:38:08 2 2
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6 shots dropped in the last 5 holes though...
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19/10/2020 18:40:06 33 4
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So an article that's ostensibly nothing about him is driven by a headline about Woods.
Who'd have thunk it?
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Si
19/10/2020 17:48:35 8 4
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His body is gone. So no. Not a chance. He should never have bulked up, he was a fine athlete without it. De Shambles will be the next with a body that is worn out.
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19/10/2020 18:10:26 10 22
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Before the 'Tiger haters' jump onboard.... it always feels like a major now whenever Tiger tees it up. It will become less frequent so we should be enjoying what little golf we see of this great player, some would say the greatest sportsman of his generation.
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19/10/2020 18:43:10 4 4
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I do enjoy every competition he tees up because I know we're one closer to witnessing the end of it ??
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19/10/2020 18:44:36 16 2
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Taking the moral stance these days is old fashioned and makes not a jot of difference. Money talks, sadly golf will surrender to the kings shilling in the same way that other sports have.

I just hope the sanctimonious Tour moguls don’t keep banging on about our great game, because they are doing their level best to destroy it.
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19/10/2020 18:52:00 20 1
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Interesting and topical article. I would be astonished if the European Tour took the same approach. My problem with it is the under 18 demographic who watch golf to enjoy and learn the game. It would be a shame if their attention is diverted to gambling. Thankfully here in Europe we only have to put up with ad breaks offering solutions to hair loss and erectile dysfunction
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20/10/2020 06:58:16 6 1
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Do you not watch tv? It is full of gambling adverts.
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19/10/2020 17:46:36 30 2
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Although many of the regular Tour players don't compete for the prize money itself - they have enough in the bank already - there are some who could potentially become tempted? Maybe miss the odd putt here and there, or swing out of their shoes to try to get that longest drive accolade even though they might run out of fairway. Or even throw a hole in a Match Play competition? Just saying...
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19/10/2020 18:53:21 13 1
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This might be more true on the developmental tours, the same way most of the tennis betting scandals involve the lesser lights at minor events that still have odds available.
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19/10/2020 18:55:00 7 0
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Money and greed will eventually infiltrate and ruin most major sports. It is sad that golf has gone the same way
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19/10/2020 18:55:41 2 2
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Tiger who?
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19/10/2020 18:57:10 21 0
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And how long before an odds on winner misses a gimmee putt and makes more from the bookies. Tell me there are no crooks in Las Vegas!!
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Gaz
19/10/2020 18:58:42 14 2
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Ah, Carters love fest continues! Very sad.
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20/10/2020 09:14:22 6 0
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What price the BBC and Iain Carter leaving us alone with their constant promotion of the Woods brand?

He was great. His time is gone! Leave us alone!

Talk about the about the young talent coming up!
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19/10/2020 19:02:06 5 0
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Theintegrity of sport is now over... Greed has destroyed everything. How much do you need !!!!
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19/10/2020 19:08:39 6 8
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Gambling is for weak minded attention seekers.
Don't be a statistic and fall into the hands of the devils workers.
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jmw
19/10/2020 18:09:44 72 1
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Sadly it’s poisonous. The whole betting company approach to football in this country is to show that without money riding on the outcome you are somehow missing out. The thrill of the sporting event itself is no longer enough. Apps make it easy to place bets in a second. Also in tv advertising land nobody ever loses when they place a bet, it’s all about the thrill of winning......
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19/10/2020 19:11:33 49 0
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Sky sports peddle gambling with there TV products and are at the epicentre of this poisonous mess.
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19/10/2020 21:06:40 5 12
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Surely it comes down to the individual's sensibilities?
Like anything it comes down to the difference between having a bit of fun and taking things too far.
You can have 25p each way on a 66\1 shot just like you can have a few pints with friends.
It's all too easy to jump on a 'gambling is ruining sport' band wagon but if you have no self control even without advertising you will come a cropper.
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Si
19/10/2020 17:48:35 8 4
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His body is gone. So no. Not a chance. He should never have bulked up, he was a fine athlete without it. De Shambles will be the next with a body that is worn out.
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19/10/2020 19:12:31 1 2
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De Shambles. What;s with the name calling
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19/10/2020 19:16:22 52 0
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I personally do not need to bet to enjoy golf. Good luck if that floats your boat. I simply wish that golf was easier to watch on free to air TV, in particular The Open which should be available to all and is the ultimate advert for golf in this country.
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19/10/2020 20:01:43 19 8
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The massive over manning of BBC sport in general and golf means they cannot afford the rights as well.
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20/10/2020 05:47:02 1 1
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Here, here
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20/10/2020 06:08:03 1 1
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If only your sensible approach was adopted...I'm with you to the last fairway, hey ho...we have to be both realistic and optimistic - the terrestrial broadcast of Women's Cricket recently was a revelation and our Boys stuff was ok - failing that take up painting! :-)
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19/10/2020 19:25:23 65 1
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Many more lives ruined. And youngsters tempted into gambling. Golf has sold its soul to the dollar yet again.
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20/10/2020 07:39:27 17 0
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Yep, absolutely right. A great shame
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19/10/2020 19:34:01 34 1
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It’s depressing that the game I’ve played for 30 years is heading in the wrong direction. It was so refreshing to to watch players struggle in the Scottish open, battling the elements and using creativity & nouse rather than the smash & grab strategy that dominates the PGA Tour.
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19/10/2020 19:37:15 2 0
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According to Ben Everill, the official reporter on PGATOUR.COM (in his article "Schauffele vows to learn from lost fight" on October 18, 2020), Jason Kokrak "hadn’t won on TOUR in 322 tries".

What's the betting that Iain Carter has got his "facts" mixed up again?
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19/10/2020 19:38:50 3 4
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Once again this weekend we got some great champions. Shooting 64 on sunday to win your first tournament nearly got as much coverage as MclLroy's "superb " 66, which took him from near last to somewhere near the middle of the table, whilst Kokrak was doing his business at the sharp end.

My money is always on Bob, and I am pretty skint.
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19/10/2020 19:52:02 2 3
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I think Bob has realised he's no good now. He couldn't even face playing his second round on Friday after shooting a score in the high 70s on Thursday on as easy a course as you could wish for.
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19/10/2020 21:39:37 2 1
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I'd like to place a bet that you can take any article on here, regardless of what it says, and have a dig at McIlroy. I probably wouldn't get very good odds though at it is as certain as anything.
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19/10/2020 19:38:50 3 4
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Once again this weekend we got some great champions. Shooting 64 on sunday to win your first tournament nearly got as much coverage as MclLroy's "superb " 66, which took him from near last to somewhere near the middle of the table, whilst Kokrak was doing his business at the sharp end.

My money is always on Bob, and I am pretty skint.
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19/10/2020 19:52:02 2 3
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I think Bob has realised he's no good now. He couldn't even face playing his second round on Friday after shooting a score in the high 70s on Thursday on as easy a course as you could wish for.
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19/10/2020 18:10:26 10 22
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Before the 'Tiger haters' jump onboard.... it always feels like a major now whenever Tiger tees it up. It will become less frequent so we should be enjoying what little golf we see of this great player, some would say the greatest sportsman of his generation.
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19/10/2020 19:53:24 3 2
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Best golfer of all time probably sportsman never self centred git
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19/10/2020 20:00:34 17 2
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The us manages to ruin something else.

Anything that awful country touched that hasn’t gotten worse?
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19/10/2020 20:22:14 7 2
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Very well said.
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20/10/2020 07:06:45 4 1
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The English language has been the biggest casualty, as your post demonstrates.
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19/10/2020 19:16:22 52 0
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I personally do not need to bet to enjoy golf. Good luck if that floats your boat. I simply wish that golf was easier to watch on free to air TV, in particular The Open which should be available to all and is the ultimate advert for golf in this country.
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19/10/2020 20:01:43 19 8
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The massive over manning of BBC sport in general and golf means they cannot afford the rights as well.
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20/10/2020 08:53:59 0 0
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Just out of interest, how much do you think the correspondents are on and how much do you think the rights are? Even cutting 50% of the sport staff probably still wouldn't save enough to afford the rights to a significant portion of the live coverage and they'd have no on left to actually cover it!
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19/10/2020 20:03:53 4 0
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Superb stuff from Otaegui on the back 9. Pleased for Kokrak, too , beating a very strong field.
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19/10/2020 20:11:42 28 1
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never seen a poor bookie but plenty of gamblers bite the dust . RIP Willie Thorne
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19/10/2020 20:20:09 10 1
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Thanks to the PGA going down this rotten path, finally gives me the impetus to cancel my Sky Sports.
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20/10/2020 09:00:57 1 1
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I cancelled about 18 months ago. If there is anything I want to watch there are lots of 'streams' for free if you know where to look.
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20/10/2020 20:00:49 0 0
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What kept you ?I woke up years ago
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19/10/2020 20:22:04 34 2
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Whenever gambling gets its teeth into a sport, corruption is never far away.
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19/10/2020 20:00:34 17 2
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The us manages to ruin something else.

Anything that awful country touched that hasn’t gotten worse?
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19/10/2020 20:22:14 7 2
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Very well said.
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tif
19/10/2020 20:24:23 4 3
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The whole thing is distasteful. Why is the BBC reporting it?
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19/10/2020 20:24:33 4 3
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I’m not one for knocking the content on here but the golf pieces are awful, it’s been a long time since tiger was golf; he’s just a veteran these days the game has moved on. Golf has always been a big gambling sport. Not new news.
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19/10/2020 20:32:19 8 1
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A mugs game. You just don’t see poor bookies. Love sport and do feel sorry for those who feel they have to place a bet to enhance the enjoyment. I personally would ban betting ads. Unfortunately as mentioned in this HYS money talks
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19/10/2020 20:33:48 2 13
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Golf and sport in the same sentence doesn't make sense its a skilled pastime. You never hear a golfer talking after a round out of breath, its in the same bracket as snooker bridge dominoes and darts
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19/10/2020 20:44:31 3 1
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Let's see how you would get on then in a golf or snooker tournament
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19/10/2020 20:53:54 0 0
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ok boomer
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19/10/2020 20:34:42 4 1
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Yet another potential slowdown in the already slow rounds of professional golf as caddies check the odds on their mobile phones before their player hits.
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19/10/2020 20:36:53 26 1
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Western culture just grows more and more debased, desperate and corrupted.
Where does this profiteering & pilfering end???
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19/10/2020 20:41:09 0 0
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Interesting if depressing article, as an occasional golf watcher it doesn't make me want to tune in again anytime soon. Oh, and to be pedantic....halfway down the article it's 'albeit', not 'all be it'!
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19/10/2020 20:33:48 2 13
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Golf and sport in the same sentence doesn't make sense its a skilled pastime. You never hear a golfer talking after a round out of breath, its in the same bracket as snooker bridge dominoes and darts
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19/10/2020 20:44:31 3 1
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Let's see how you would get on then in a golf or snooker tournament
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19/10/2020 23:09:09 0 0
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Obviously badly as i don't play these games I play various sports which test me physically and mentally
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19/10/2020 20:44:40 3 0
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Rinsing more money out the fans.

Golf is becoming as bad as football in that sense.
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19/10/2020 20:52:25 0 0
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Desolation.
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19/10/2020 20:33:48 2 13
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Golf and sport in the same sentence doesn't make sense its a skilled pastime. You never hear a golfer talking after a round out of breath, its in the same bracket as snooker bridge dominoes and darts
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19/10/2020 20:53:54 0 0
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ok boomer
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19/10/2020 23:09:50 0 0
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What's a boomerang ?
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19/10/2020 20:56:12 0 3
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Even if you won a large sum you'd have no friends to share it with, because you're a golf fan.
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19/10/2020 20:56:51 4 2
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It's about time Iain Carter stopped writing articles headlining T Woods.

By all means write about the insidious rise of gambling in golf, but why not give us the real story. Are golfers missing putts for monetary gain?
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19/10/2020 20:57:26 6 1
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156 players (say) enter a golf tournament and 155 lose. Doesn’t really sound like a sport you would want to bet on does it?
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19/10/2020 21:28:47 3 0
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Indeed. Mr Carter says that "the bookies know best" but they don't. The reality is that almost anyone in the field can win a PGA event so the odds are heavily stacked against the punters, who naturally back the big names at absurdly cramped odds.
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19/10/2020 21:02:56 8 0
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Sport and corruption are never far away, look at last weekend’s boxing in the Ritson fight and how MS Dhoni jogs singles in a T20 match. I thought golf was above this but sadly not. What a depressing development this is.
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19/10/2020 17:46:36 30 2
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Although many of the regular Tour players don't compete for the prize money itself - they have enough in the bank already - there are some who could potentially become tempted? Maybe miss the odd putt here and there, or swing out of their shoes to try to get that longest drive accolade even though they might run out of fairway. Or even throw a hole in a Match Play competition? Just saying...
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19/10/2020 21:05:36 1 0
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I’d have thought this was a certainty!
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19/10/2020 19:11:33 49 0
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Sky sports peddle gambling with there TV products and are at the epicentre of this poisonous mess.
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19/10/2020 21:06:40 5 12
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Surely it comes down to the individual's sensibilities?
Like anything it comes down to the difference between having a bit of fun and taking things too far.
You can have 25p each way on a 66\1 shot just like you can have a few pints with friends.
It's all too easy to jump on a 'gambling is ruining sport' band wagon but if you have no self control even without advertising you will come a cropper.
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20/10/2020 07:23:53 6 0
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In-play betting means odds flashing across the screen regularly during the coverage. Fundamentally different to going to the bookie to place a bet for a Major . Betting becomes central to the coverage
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19/10/2020 21:12:03 8 1
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It can only end in tears.
A stupid, short-sighted move, chasing more more than they need.
Destroys their sport, no longer a sport of course.
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19/10/2020 21:13:01 1 0
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correction -(more money than they need)
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19/10/2020 21:12:03 8 1
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It can only end in tears.
A stupid, short-sighted move, chasing more more than they need.
Destroys their sport, no longer a sport of course.
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19/10/2020 21:13:01 1 0
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correction -(more money than they need)
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19/10/2020 20:57:26 6 1
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156 players (say) enter a golf tournament and 155 lose. Doesn’t really sound like a sport you would want to bet on does it?
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19/10/2020 21:28:47 3 0
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Indeed. Mr Carter says that "the bookies know best" but they don't. The reality is that almost anyone in the field can win a PGA event so the odds are heavily stacked against the punters, who naturally back the big names at absurdly cramped odds.
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19/10/2020 22:30:12 1 0
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Who wins the PGA tour is one out of hundreds, maybe thousands, of incidents in the game that you can bet on. So there's likely to be a wide variation of odds as you find in any betting sport.
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19/10/2020 21:31:00 2 1
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Anyone remember when you woke up on a Monday and as golf fans couldn’t wait for the comments section?!
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EJ
19/10/2020 23:07:23 3 0
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Are you mad? Unless you’re a McIlroy/Woods fan you will continue to be disappointed. Who in their right mind would entertain the idea that golf fans would be interested in current tournaments/winners/great stories etc. Answers on a postcard.
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20/10/2020 05:25:00 1 0
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What I find strange is that we can not comment during a PGA Tour or Euro Tour event as they are happening.
You saw again here how quickly those tournaments are quickly ignored and the subject switches very quickly to Woods or MclLroy.
Why is this?
There are dozens of golfing superstars out there.
Luckily, thanks to Sky, I get to enjoy these tournaments and as you say this site died years ago.
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19/10/2020 21:35:14 3 0
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I love watching golf but detest gambling which has ruined a friend of mine's life.....oh dear...this isn't good ..but unfortunately and rather depressingly,not surprised
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no
19/10/2020 21:35:51 2 6
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complete non story by carter,i have been betting on golf for over 30 years.The rewards golfers get completely dwarf how much they would get from betting,as for tiger woods if you bet on him now you might as well put your money down the drain.(unless you can get a price that carter will mention him at least once a week)
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19/10/2020 19:38:50 3 4
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Once again this weekend we got some great champions. Shooting 64 on sunday to win your first tournament nearly got as much coverage as MclLroy's "superb " 66, which took him from near last to somewhere near the middle of the table, whilst Kokrak was doing his business at the sharp end.

My money is always on Bob, and I am pretty skint.
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19/10/2020 21:39:37 2 1
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I'd like to place a bet that you can take any article on here, regardless of what it says, and have a dig at McIlroy. I probably wouldn't get very good odds though at it is as certain as anything.
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19/10/2020 21:59:16 4 0
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Most golfers have a flutter when playing their regular 4ball or 2 ball but the small amount most of us play for is for nothing as the winners buy the drinks on the Nineteenth. It is to be hope that the introduction of big time gambling into golf does not draw the shady characters that is all to likely. As for Tiger he has been a phenomena but give me Nicklaus any day.
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19/10/2020 22:05:01 1 0
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You can win occasionally and suddenly think you can do this, again.. Then your ducked in.. 99.995 per cnt lose long term
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19/10/2020 22:25:04 1 0
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Interesting statistic - source?
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19/10/2020 22:06:53 0 0
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This happens in this country during literally every televised football match. I definitely agree this is a problem but why frame it as a USPGA/Golf issue?
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19/10/2020 22:09:19 6 4
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Ian Carter's continued and cringeworthy fauning over Tiger Woods is like a thirteen year old girl's screams at a boy band. Except the little girls grow up, get embarrassed at themselves and move on.
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20/10/2020 06:50:17 4 1
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Carter’s previous 24 columns include the reigning Masters champion in the headline only once. In recent weeks he’s written about Hatton, Reid, Hall, DeChambeau, Morikawa etc. Don’t think he’s the one who should feel embarrassed.
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19/10/2020 22:13:48 2 0
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gene sarazen hit the nail on the head over twenty years ago "there is too much money in golf"
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19/10/2020 22:05:01 1 0
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You can win occasionally and suddenly think you can do this, again.. Then your ducked in.. 99.995 per cnt lose long term
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19/10/2020 22:25:04 1 0
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Interesting statistic - source?
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19/10/2020 21:28:47 3 0
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Indeed. Mr Carter says that "the bookies know best" but they don't. The reality is that almost anyone in the field can win a PGA event so the odds are heavily stacked against the punters, who naturally back the big names at absurdly cramped odds.
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19/10/2020 22:30:12 1 0
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Who wins the PGA tour is one out of hundreds, maybe thousands, of incidents in the game that you can bet on. So there's likely to be a wide variation of odds as you find in any betting sport.
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EJ
19/10/2020 22:48:28 1 1
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The weekend golf. A Spaniard played lights out in the final round to take out Wallace who was disappointing and disappointed. Hatton almost took it to Las Vegas after a 20 hour journey and an 8 hour time difference. Good stuff. Betting for fun is fine,know your limits,sadly not everyone does. Still a HYS on the weeks tournaments would have been nice.
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19/10/2020 22:50:13 0 0
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Sounds like another (unnecessary
one for me) opportunity to make money from golf. Nothing wrong with money - money is not, as is often misquoted, the root of all evil, it's the love or greed of it that's evil.
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19/10/2020 22:51:12 2 1
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This gets an HYS ? Why ?
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EJ
19/10/2020 23:08:16 1 0
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The Shadow knows. No one else does.
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19/10/2020 21:31:00 2 1
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Anyone remember when you woke up on a Monday and as golf fans couldn’t wait for the comments section?!
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EJ
19/10/2020 23:07:23 3 0
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Are you mad? Unless you’re a McIlroy/Woods fan you will continue to be disappointed. Who in their right mind would entertain the idea that golf fans would be interested in current tournaments/winners/great stories etc. Answers on a postcard.
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19/10/2020 22:51:12 2 1
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This gets an HYS ? Why ?
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EJ
19/10/2020 23:08:16 1 0
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The Shadow knows. No one else does.
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19/10/2020 23:35:39 0 0
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Saelon knows!!!
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19/10/2020 20:44:31 3 1
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Let's see how you would get on then in a golf or snooker tournament
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19/10/2020 23:09:09 0 0
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Obviously badly as i don't play these games I play various sports which test me physically and mentally
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19/10/2020 20:53:54 0 0
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ok boomer
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19/10/2020 23:09:50 0 0
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What's a boomerang ?
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EJ
19/10/2020 23:08:16 1 0
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The Shadow knows. No one else does.
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19/10/2020 23:35:39 0 0
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Saelon knows!!!
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20/10/2020 00:01:22 1 1
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The end is pure class; a clever double meaning. Carter is a cut above.
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20/10/2020 04:26:24 3 0
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More money for the PGA but if you have a look at what happened to NRL broadcasting in Australia it went too far. The commentators at half time would even discuss the odds. Gateway gambling for young fans, who only associate the game with betting
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20/10/2020 04:32:09 2 0
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Whenever there is betting in sport, look at how likely corruption in micro bets is. If a 300-ranked player could make $20k by missing a putt on a certain hole, then would he? Snooker in the UK is similar, sumo wrestling in Japan. Individual sports with fine margins. I enjoy the PGA but would hate to watch it and wonder if gambling influence has affected the outcome
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19/10/2020 21:31:00 2 1
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Anyone remember when you woke up on a Monday and as golf fans couldn’t wait for the comments section?!
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20/10/2020 05:25:00 1 0
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What I find strange is that we can not comment during a PGA Tour or Euro Tour event as they are happening.
You saw again here how quickly those tournaments are quickly ignored and the subject switches very quickly to Woods or MclLroy.
Why is this?
There are dozens of golfing superstars out there.
Luckily, thanks to Sky, I get to enjoy these tournaments and as you say this site died years ago.
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19/10/2020 18:32:54 25 37
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Perhaps when Hatton does it consistently for 10 years he'll get the headlines more often?
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20/10/2020 05:45:51 2 2
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Not the point I love Fergie was making...in fact, as Rory M has been consistently good for 10 years - perhaps even more kudos to Mr H for 'besting' Rory on this occasion. At least give him a praise where it is due paragraph even if RM rightly attracts the column inches
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19/10/2020 19:16:22 52 0
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I personally do not need to bet to enjoy golf. Good luck if that floats your boat. I simply wish that golf was easier to watch on free to air TV, in particular The Open which should be available to all and is the ultimate advert for golf in this country.
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20/10/2020 05:47:02 1 1
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Here, here
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19/10/2020 18:36:14 13 2
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"Albeit" is one word, Iain. ??
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20/10/2020 05:50:33 7 0
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Albeits are off? :-)
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20/10/2020 05:53:17 2 1
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If ever a sport was ripe for corruption Golf is it, imagine a player on the cut line being offered $50,000 to miss a putt when getting the putt might mean a chance to win just $5,000.
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20/10/2020 06:02:02 2 0
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My Dad bet a little, mostly on the Grand National & the Boat Race etc.
He had a simple rule: left pocket for stake money & right pocket for winnings (Stake money was his 'pocket' money AFTER all bills were allowed for & long term savings secured)
Good training, at 70, I can still take £1 worth of 2ps to seaside slots & leave with winnings in my right pocket: Youngsters, please do not click & bet
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19/10/2020 19:16:22 52 0
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I personally do not need to bet to enjoy golf. Good luck if that floats your boat. I simply wish that golf was easier to watch on free to air TV, in particular The Open which should be available to all and is the ultimate advert for golf in this country.
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20/10/2020 06:08:03 1 1
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If only your sensible approach was adopted...I'm with you to the last fairway, hey ho...we have to be both realistic and optimistic - the terrestrial broadcast of Women's Cricket recently was a revelation and our Boys stuff was ok - failing that take up painting! :-)
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Ian
20/10/2020 06:13:14 3 0
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Hopefully the players have integrity (LOL) and don't participate in gambling themselves but what about the caddies?

Imagine a situation where you can bet on individual shots or holes and a caddy is "got at" by an unscrupulous gambler.

Caddy influences his player, who he knows isn't in the running to win, to take the wrong club in order that he misses the green. Kerching!!!
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20/10/2020 06:13:53 0 2
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Betting on golf has been allowed for decades in Britain and the far East,in fact all the UK online firms had to implement security measures to prevent US citizens from opening accounts with them.

All this is,is the US coming in line with the rest of the world.

Pretty much non story.

How many football teams in Britain are sponsored by Betting organisations ?
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20/10/2020 07:16:15 3 1
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This is about in-play betting, being pushed on-screen. A bit different to putting a tenner on your favourite player for a major.
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20/10/2020 06:31:52 1 2
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I think the money involved in golf will prevent players from trying to make a quick buck.

Bookies aren't stupid,if you try to get a bet on a particular hole to win 10's of thousands of Pounds/Dollars they wont accept the bet.

Eddie Pepperell is ranked 95th in the world,yet has earned $6.5 MILLION ! (+ Sponsorship)

Why risk throwing your career away for 10/20/50 grand ?
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20/10/2020 07:07:29 4 0
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True, but what about the guy that's 500 in the world and is struggling to pay his mortgage? These are the players that could be tempted.
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20/10/2020 07:15:07 1 1
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Like footballers then, no chance of anyone taking a bribe there?
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19/10/2020 22:09:19 6 4
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Ian Carter's continued and cringeworthy fauning over Tiger Woods is like a thirteen year old girl's screams at a boy band. Except the little girls grow up, get embarrassed at themselves and move on.
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20/10/2020 06:50:17 4 1
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Carter’s previous 24 columns include the reigning Masters champion in the headline only once. In recent weeks he’s written about Hatton, Reid, Hall, DeChambeau, Morikawa etc. Don’t think he’s the one who should feel embarrassed.
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20/10/2020 06:54:47 5 0
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Gambling ruins lives and families once you are hooked on then it’s very difficult to stop.

Ever seen a poor bookie?
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20/10/2020 07:02:09 3 0
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So true, my other half who bets online now and then on the horses, fell into the trap. I noticed our account was low and checking transactions, the odd "£20 now and then" had become a bit more regular. It's a nightmare that those with inability to see what's happening, just can't wake up from
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20/10/2020 06:55:19 1 1
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"The 15-times major champion is now 44, has a creaky back and knees that niggle."

To be fair though, nobodyin their right mind fancied Woods to win it last year, so I wouldn't bet against him......or would I? ??