European Tour protocols 'restricting'
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Ian Poulter says the European Tour Covid-19 protocols are more restrictive than the PGA Tour and talks about Bryson DeChambeau's "freak" US Open and his own Ryder Cup ambitions.
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Always great value on and off the course. I would love Poults to win a Major but his Ryder Cup exploits will earn him hero status anyway. Top man.
Poulter is good and has had a stella career. Th kinda guy you would want in the trenches with you. Not many ahead of him who you ask to make a 4 footer when really needed.
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I think Poult`s experience shows in this interview , it is glazed with wisdom . He is 100% correct in that the ability to build muscle does not guarantee golfing greatness and few will try to emulate the feat of BDC . The vast majority of fans want golf , not a three club competition , driver ,wedge and putt. The Americans will be hoping he doesn't make the Ryder Cup Team.
Poulter is good and has had a stella career. Th kinda guy you would want in the trenches with you. Not many ahead of him who you ask to make a 4 footer when really needed.
Would have to agree with you. Had all the talent and Ryder cup exploits apart should have won many more tournaments but im sure his bank manager loves him anyway
Not even a stellar career!
That sounds tinged with a dislike for the bloke. It's a pretty good career - 17 wins and a great Ryder Cup - 5 wins out of 6. Many players would swap their career just for that.
Ranked as high as 5 in the world and 2 WGC wins so far. Yes stella career, made the most of his talent as he is not the most talented. Made a huge amount of money and had much fun along the way. Yes stella.
Yes! Have you been Top 50 and better in the world at anything at any time in your career? Hmmmm
Mr Me and only Tiger has one stroke play win on American soil. Stellar career, next!
Poulter is good and has had a stella career. Th kinda guy you would want in the trenches with you. Not many ahead of him who you ask to make a 4 footer when really needed.
4 pints a certain brand of lager per night...?
If it wasn’t for #2 winning a few points for team Europe then his career is.......?
“A few points”? That’s a bit mean. 15 points is a bloody good haul, as is 5.5 points out of 6 in the singles. He gets my respect for that, even if he doesn’t get yours.
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And your career is ????
And your career is ????
I'd rather have Poulters golf career than whatever yours has amounted to buddy
If it wasn’t for #2 winning a few points for team Europe then his career is.......?
That’s not the point...... keep up!
4 pints a certain brand of lager per night...?
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So many ignorant comments on here, about one of our own, home grown, hard working, professional golfer's. Poulter has done everything in golf apart from win a Major. Trolls listen up ---- He's won 17 world wide Professional tournaments, played in 6 Ryder Cups, earned £25million in official money and probably doubled that amount with endorsements, so, choke on that, keyboard choppers!! ??
He’s a good lad, always liked him. Not the most talented lad on tour but immense confidence and has given us some great laughs and moments in the Ryder cup. And he knows how to enjoy himself. I’d love to have a pint with him. Can’t say the same about many of the preppy Americans
So many ignorant comments on here, about one of our own, home grown, hard working, professional golfer's. Poulter has done everything in golf apart from win a Major. Trolls listen up ---- He's won 17 world wide Professional tournaments, played in 6 Ryder Cups, earned £25million in official money and probably doubled that amount with endorsements, so, choke on that, keyboard choppers!! ??
Ranked as high as 5 in the world and 2 WGC wins so far. Yes stella career, made the most of his talent as he is not the most talented. Made a huge amount of money and had much fun along the way. Yes stella.
Spelling has never been of much importance to me. We both know what i mean , Im not really a bad speller, im a lazy bugger who doesn't try. I don't imagine he is a lager lout but i don't in all honesty know him.
If it wasn’t for #2 winning a few points for team Europe then his career is.......?
Spelling has never been of much importance to me. We both know what i mean , Im not really a bad speller, im a lazy bugger who doesn't try. I don't imagine he is a lager lout but i don't in all honesty know him.
Confess i like Stella, but then again also red wine, bitter, ale etc etc. All with pork scratchings of course. Would usually have cheese with red wine though. Pretty classy hey. I think i may have fallen into your trap and gone off topic.
Ignorant?
Poulter is good and has had a stella career. Th kinda guy you would want in the trenches with you. Not many ahead of him who you ask to make a 4 footer when really needed.
Don't you just love the "achieved in life nothing" trolls who criticise a man who by dint of his own hard work and dedication has raised himself from a very ordinary background in Stevenage to where he is now.
Come on all you trolls lets see a list of your achievements !!
Come on all you trolls lets see a list of your achievements !!
If it wasn’t for #2 winning a few points for team Europe then his career is.......?
If it wasn’t for #2 winning a few points for team Europe then his career is.......?
Well I certainly have a lot of respect for Mr P as he has had to work tremendously hard on his game while probably not being the most naturally talented at it.
A shame that his Ryder Cup singles form hasn't carried itself over to win a Major, but you never know what might happen. He certainly has a few more years left in him and will certainly be a future Ryder Cup Captain which is a great honour.
A shame that his Ryder Cup singles form hasn't carried itself over to win a Major, but you never know what might happen. He certainly has a few more years left in him and will certainly be a future Ryder Cup Captain which is a great honour.
Don't you just love the "achieved in life nothing" trolls who criticise a man who by dint of his own hard work and dedication has raised himself from a very ordinary background in Stevenage to where he is now.
Come on all you trolls lets see a list of your achievements !!
Come on all you trolls lets see a list of your achievements !!
Combating the drive, wedge, putter yawn? Limit the number of holes a club under 16 degrees loft can be used as a tee shot and make all players use all 13 clubs at least once (putter excluded). Should make for a more interesting spectacle. Hopefully, tease out the best overall golfer rather than longest driver. If adopted no need to change course layouts to counteract 300+ drives
16 degrees? Lads would just hone their stinger shots. Pointless idea
The game is, literally, about getting the ball in the hole with as few shots as possible.
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Yep, points taken. Guess what I'm trying to get to is situations where the players are hitting 3 and 4 iron approach shots into greens, rather than wedges. Just think that 20 under for 4 rounds tells its own story. Golf is only part of the entertainment industry, so if drive, wedge, putt floats one's boat then fine. I just want to see more all round skill win the day.
Combating the drive, wedge, putter yawn? Limit the number of holes a club under 16 degrees loft can be used as a tee shot and make all players use all 13 clubs at least once (putter excluded). Should make for a more interesting spectacle. Hopefully, tease out the best overall golfer rather than longest driver. If adopted no need to change course layouts to counteract 300+ drives
Poulter is a bit like Rory, Just should shut your gob and concentrate on your game. Fans on here calling him poults like they know him is hilarious! Seriously....
Poults is good value. Provides great entertainment. Pity you don’t appreciate him, but I’m sure you have a list of nice golfers who never say anything silly, that seems to be much more important to you.
And yes, bod loves a guinness, I’ve had a pint with him several times in Dublin.
And yes, bod loves a guinness, I’ve had a pint with him several times in Dublin.
couldn't agree more, BOD...I've tried very hard but I just can't bring myself to like this guy...too much arrogance and fist-pumping for my liking...to his credit, though, has possibly achieved the MOST in golf with the LEAST amount of natural talent...also, in all the years I've been watching golf, I'm struggling to think of a better putter
Poulter is a bit like Rory, Just should shut your gob and concentrate on your game. Fans on here calling him poults like they know him is hilarious! Seriously....
Sure you have................ zzz yawn zzz. I doubt very much he would socialize with you, cop yourself on. Delusional springs to mind.
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Poulter is a bit like Rory, Just should shut your gob and concentrate on your game. Fans on here calling him poults like they know him is hilarious! Seriously....
couldn't agree more, BOD...I've tried very hard but I just can't bring myself to like this guy...too much arrogance and fist-pumping for my liking...to his credit, though, has possibly achieved the MOST in golf with the LEAST amount of natural talent...also, in all the years I've been watching golf, I'm struggling to think of a better putter
Poults is good value. Provides great entertainment. Pity you don’t appreciate him, but I’m sure you have a list of nice golfers who never say anything silly, that seems to be much more important to you.
And yes, bod loves a guinness, I’ve had a pint with him several times in Dublin.
And yes, bod loves a guinness, I’ve had a pint with him several times in Dublin.
Really do admire what Poulter has achieved from humble background but talks a bit too much sometimes and definitely from the "my way" school of thinking. No mention at all in his BDC comments about the superb short game under immense pressure that was needed to win that major. BDC can really play as his US amatuer testifies so a little bit of praise missing for me
Tosser that parks in disabled spaces then complains when asked to move
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Sure you have................ zzz yawn zzz. I doubt very much he would socialize with you, cop yourself on. Delusional springs to mind.
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Combating the drive, wedge, putter yawn? Limit the number of holes a club under 16 degrees loft can be used as a tee shot and make all players use all 13 clubs at least once (putter excluded). Should make for a more interesting spectacle. Hopefully, tease out the best overall golfer rather than longest driver. If adopted no need to change course layouts to counteract 300+ drives
Easiest way to limit the game is not to make the courses longer but to make them shorter surely. That would bring more of the field back into contention.
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To combat the big drivers, how about making it 'Irons only', even off the tee!
A SAD state of affair when the BBC long term golf correspondent writes week in week out about a once in two year event Ryder Cup
I never believed the 2022 event would happen in Rome and I don't believe the 2023 will take place there either
I never believed the 2022 event would happen in Rome and I don't believe the 2023 will take place there either
Why on earth don't you believe the Ryder Cup won't take place in Rome...?!
Ignorant?
He also calls Bryson DeChambeau's recent US Open win a "freak" but one worthy of great admiration.
Bit like mcilroy's wins .. they were "freak" wins too.
Bit like mcilroy's wins .. they were "freak" wins too.
A SAD state of affair when the BBC long term golf correspondent writes week in week out about a once in two year event Ryder Cup
I never believed the 2022 event would happen in Rome and I don't believe the 2023 will take place there either
I never believed the 2022 event would happen in Rome and I don't believe the 2023 will take place there either
The game is, literally, about getting the ball in the hole with as few shots as possible.
End of...
End of...
Combating the drive, wedge, putter yawn? Limit the number of holes a club under 16 degrees loft can be used as a tee shot and make all players use all 13 clubs at least once (putter excluded). Should make for a more interesting spectacle. Hopefully, tease out the best overall golfer rather than longest driver. If adopted no need to change course layouts to counteract 300+ drives
Yep, points taken. Guess what I'm trying to get to is situations where the players are hitting 3 and 4 iron approach shots into greens, rather than wedges. Just think that 20 under for 4 rounds tells its own story. Golf is only part of the entertainment industry, so if drive, wedge, putt floats one's boat then fine. I just want to see more all round skill win the day.
@thecitizen. ”Bit like mcilroy's wins .. they were "freak" wins too."
Difficult to disagree with that sentiment.
Throw in X3 WGC's, a Players, X3 Race to Dubai champion, X2 FedEx champion, 23 other world wide wins and the Ryder Cup and it begins to look like he will be regarded as one of the greatest "freaks" of all time.
Difficult to disagree with that sentiment.
Throw in X3 WGC's, a Players, X3 Race to Dubai champion, X2 FedEx champion, 23 other world wide wins and the Ryder Cup and it begins to look like he will be regarded as one of the greatest "freaks" of all time.
Its unfortunate most continue to view DeChambeau's victory based on only his long drives. If you look at the stats you will see Bubba Wilson often outdrove DeChambeau. People overlook his ability with the putter and his iron play all world class... Just look at his record... NCAA Champion, US Amateur Champion, US Open winner... "nough said!! go on to another topic please.
Spot on. Was 6/7 th in driving distance that week and his short game/putting were better against the field I believe.
The issue is still with the course set up though. Lowest fairways hit by a considerable distance (no pun intended) of any US Open winner so perhaps the rough wasn't rough enough and the fairway bunkers not a hazard as such??
The issue is still with the course set up though. Lowest fairways hit by a considerable distance (no pun intended) of any US Open winner so perhaps the rough wasn't rough enough and the fairway bunkers not a hazard as such??
Ian Poulter has made a fine career for himself, just his longevity is cause for celebration and his well above average achievements in the game are clear to see for all except the narrow minded plebs that consider only Woods's achievements as a suitable benchmark. Ian is very unlikely to make another Ryder Cup as a player such is the rich pool of younger talent that is emerging.
Its unfortunate most continue to view DeChambeau's victory based on only his long drives. If you look at the stats you will see Bubba Wilson often outdrove DeChambeau. People overlook his ability with the putter and his iron play all world class... Just look at his record... NCAA Champion, US Amateur Champion, US Open winner... "nough said!! go on to another topic please.
Spot on. Was 6/7 th in driving distance that week and his short game/putting were better against the field I believe.
The issue is still with the course set up though. Lowest fairways hit by a considerable distance (no pun intended) of any US Open winner so perhaps the rough wasn't rough enough and the fairway bunkers not a hazard as such??
The issue is still with the course set up though. Lowest fairways hit by a considerable distance (no pun intended) of any US Open winner so perhaps the rough wasn't rough enough and the fairway bunkers not a hazard as such??
I think the difference from the rough is that they now have a shorter distance to the green with the modern distance from the tee.
So the club is a PW rather than a 6 iron - easier to control...
So the club is a PW rather than a 6 iron - easier to control...
I have a great admiration for what Ian has achieved and will hopefully continue to achieve in his career as a professional golfer.
I also sympathise with his having to come to terms with two sets of Covid Rules but must point out that in one respect the European Tour guidelines appear not to be as strict as those for club golfers who are not allowed to share cars to and from the venue.
I also sympathise with his having to come to terms with two sets of Covid Rules but must point out that in one respect the European Tour guidelines appear not to be as strict as those for club golfers who are not allowed to share cars to and from the venue.
Don't you just love the "achieved in life nothing" trolls who criticise a man who by dint of his own hard work and dedication has raised himself from a very ordinary background in Stevenage to where he is now.
Come on all you trolls lets see a list of your achievements !!
Come on all you trolls lets see a list of your achievements !!
Easiest way to limit the game is not to make the courses longer but to make them shorter surely. That would bring more of the field back into contention.
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Ian Poulter - bit of a marmite character, but pretty good to watch in the Ryder Cup if you're on our side. I think he's wrong to call BDS' win a the US Open a freak result. BDS' short game was magnificent in the US Open. He was also an excellent and incredibly successful golfer before he put the weight on.
Poulter - Like him or not you must admire his time on the tour and support for European Tour. However, another top, player whom I gained huge respect for is Tommy Fleetwood. When all others were moaning about the conditions on Saturday Tommy's interview was a revelation. He stated for the money they play for no-one should complain and he would play in those conditions every day for the rewards.
Poults, Poults, Poults! Anyone can call him that; such a fuss! Whatever anyone says in these articles, the trolls pull their comments apart. As one poster said, 'wish I could be that bad at golf.'
Like or loathe Ian he's patriotic but realistic to seek his income on The USPGA Tour. We've enjoyed a decent number of ET events due to COVID, but proves it can be done, even with lower prized funds.
Like or loathe Ian he's patriotic but realistic to seek his income on The USPGA Tour. We've enjoyed a decent number of ET events due to COVID, but proves it can be done, even with lower prized funds.
A SAD state of affair when the BBC long term golf correspondent writes week in week out about a once in two year event Ryder Cup
I never believed the 2022 event would happen in Rome and I don't believe the 2023 will take place there either
I never believed the 2022 event would happen in Rome and I don't believe the 2023 will take place there either
Spot on. Was 6/7 th in driving distance that week and his short game/putting were better against the field I believe.
The issue is still with the course set up though. Lowest fairways hit by a considerable distance (no pun intended) of any US Open winner so perhaps the rough wasn't rough enough and the fairway bunkers not a hazard as such??
The issue is still with the course set up though. Lowest fairways hit by a considerable distance (no pun intended) of any US Open winner so perhaps the rough wasn't rough enough and the fairway bunkers not a hazard as such??
I suspect you're right although I believe they cut the rough prior to the Thursday start and were criticised for it? Might have not remembered that correctly!
Graded fairway rough perhaps but not just width ways? Higher after 300 yards, substantially so after 330 yards from the tee?
Graded fairway rough perhaps but not just width ways? Higher after 300 yards, substantially so after 330 yards from the tee?
Easiest way to limit the game is not to make the courses longer but to make them shorter surely. That would bring more of the field back into contention.
I think the difference from the rough is that they now have a shorter distance to the green with the modern distance from the tee.
So the club is a PW rather than a 6 iron - easier to control...
So the club is a PW rather than a 6 iron - easier to control...
I see what he says about restrictions being different in the States...……they also have over 200,000 deaths.
They also have a population about 6 times greater than ours
Determination over ability at first but he deserves all he has made from the game. Just goes to show that the rewards are there if you put the effort in
I see what he says about restrictions being different in the States...……they also have over 200,000 deaths.
Just under 5 times the population, in 40 times the land mass (so much lower density of population, easier to control), but their death rate per million is higher than UK.
Also, 3 players have tested positive at PGA events, so you'd think they'd be tighter than Europe.
Also, 3 players have tested positive at PGA events, so you'd think they'd be tighter than Europe.
A combination of narrowing fairways which are tree lined and front green side bunkers or water hazards at 300 plus yards might make the bombers think twice put these are drastic expensive course changes
A SAD state of affair when the BBC long term golf correspondent writes week in week out about a once in two year event Ryder Cup
I never believed the 2022 event would happen in Rome and I don't believe the 2023 will take place there either
I never believed the 2022 event would happen in Rome and I don't believe the 2023 will take place there either
A combination of narrowing fairways which are tree lined and front green side bunkers or water hazards at 300 plus yards might make the bombers think twice put these are drastic expensive course changes
They also have a population about 6 times greater than ours
330 million compared with 66 million, to me that is 5 times
I think the trick to combat the Bombers is to look at the grass used for the rough. If the rough is the same height, but say they use something denser and tougher in the Bomber zone, this may level things. Advantage of this is that there is no need to start redesigning the course with bunkers, trees or other hazards.
The sooner he goes back the better,he swans over for the big money events,not to support the tour!he took longer on his shots at the scottish open than the rest of the players put together,but was given special treatmeant as usual,then has the cheek to moan .GO BACK and good riddance
Just under 5 times the population, in 40 times the land mass (so much lower density of population, easier to control), but their death rate per million is higher than UK.
Also, 3 players have tested positive at PGA events, so you'd think they'd be tighter than Europe.
Also, 3 players have tested positive at PGA events, so you'd think they'd be tighter than Europe.
Poulter is a bit like Montgomerie in that his best golf was usually saved for the Ryder Cup. The thing that differentiates them is Poulter's ability to win Stateside. Something Monty never did master.
Your comparison with Montgomerie is interesting but a bit selective. Albeit Poulter has won on the PGA Tour he is a full time member of that tour, something Montgomerie has never been. Monty's overall record is far better than Poulter's! In addition to his numerous order of merit wins, Monty has won 31 times on the European Tour and has had 5 second place positions in the majors!
Poulter is a bit like Montgomerie in that his best golf was usually saved for the Ryder Cup. The thing that differentiates them is Poulter's ability to win Stateside. Something Monty never did master.
Your comparison with Montgomerie is interesting but a bit selective. Albeit Poulter has won on the PGA Tour he is a full time member of that tour, something Montgomerie has never been. Monty's overall record is far better than Poulter's! In addition to his numerous order of merit wins, Monty has won 31 times on the European Tour and has had 5 second place positions in the majors!