Timely English wins with major looming
05/10/2020 | sport | golf | 83
Mel Reid and Georgia Hall winning the last two LPGA Tour events feel like breakthrough moments as the players gear up for this week's third major of 2020, the Women's PGA Championship, writes Iain Carter.
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05/10/2020 12:57:05 1 5
bbc
Great to see Brits having success on LPGA Tour for a change. It's not that I watch this tour that much, but have the Koreans appeared yet cos dont seem to be many around ?
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EJ
05/10/2020 14:04:20 2 0
bbc
Most of them are there.
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05/10/2020 12:57:50 2 9
bbc
Currently in isolation I have been watching a lot of golf recently and watched Mel's victory at the weekend, which was very impressive. The one thing that struck me was the lack of hazards on the course which made it a bit of a birdy feist. Nothing wrong with that but a marked contrast to the mens courses. I will be interested to see how this weeks course compares.
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05/10/2020 13:40:19 3 1
bbc
-19 the same score that won on the PGA Tour this week, -18 at the Corales and -21 at the Safeway. Low scoring courses dominate all the tours generally
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EJ
05/10/2020 13:57:37 1 0
bbc
Like Hanbury Manor and TPC Boston you mean. Won with scores of -27 and -30.
There are courses like that in all tours.
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05/10/2020 14:37:32 2 0
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Lack of hazards?

I guess they took them all out and replaced the turf then.

It is a golf course the hazards are there for men and women. Different tees means that the same hazards come into play.
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05/10/2020 13:15:10 4 17
bbc
There are some very good women runners an swimmers who get little coverage
The current standard of Top Women is nowhere near that of the Over 50s Mens Tour
Women are playing on extremely short courses which nullifies the advantage of any long hitter on their tour
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EJ
05/10/2020 13:52:31 8 4
bbc
You mean like Hanbury Manor and TPC Boston. Get a grip.Distance favours us men because of physiology so playing off men’s professional tees would be ludicrous.
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05/10/2020 14:19:08 4 1
bbc
Your comment makes no sense. You seem to be slagging the women off for not being as good as the Masters men, but also try to make some point about female runners and swimmers ... who would fit into the exact same observation of being slower than their male counterparts. Not sure what point you were trying to make.
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06/10/2020 16:06:33 0 1
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this is ignorant
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05/10/2020 13:20:21 24 3
bbc
Well played to Mel Reid (and Georgia Hall two weeks ago). Great temperament in a real tough competition. More and more I am watching the ladies golf and recognising it is every bit as brilliant as the mens. Good luch to all the GB&I girls at the forthcoming major. You can do it!
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05/10/2020 13:36:54 9 9
bbc
It is so nice to hear from someone on here who appreciate ladies golf
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EJ
05/10/2020 13:55:01 3 3
bbc
Agreed. The women’s game is enjoyable to watch. Also good to see Europeans winning over there. Hope the recent wins by Georgia and Mel inspire others.
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06/10/2020 07:09:50 2 0
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Must admit Charley Hull has not really fulfilled the potential she promised when she burst onto the scene, shame really as I thought we had another top lady golfer there
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05/10/2020 13:26:38 8 11
bbc
Trust a couple of men to be sarcastic about women's golf. Typical!
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05/10/2020 14:21:17 10 5
bbc
"Typical?". So we're all chauvinists, are we? Don't fall into that trap, it's lazy thinking. Yes, there are some eejits, but don't tar all men with the same brush like you did with your "typical" comment.
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05/10/2020 13:20:21 24 3
bbc
Well played to Mel Reid (and Georgia Hall two weeks ago). Great temperament in a real tough competition. More and more I am watching the ladies golf and recognising it is every bit as brilliant as the mens. Good luch to all the GB&I girls at the forthcoming major. You can do it!
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05/10/2020 13:36:54 9 9
bbc
It is so nice to hear from someone on here who appreciate ladies golf
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06/10/2020 12:42:02 1 1
bbc
Personally I believe the standard of putting on the LPGA is on a par(no pun intended) with the men's tour
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05/10/2020 12:57:50 2 9
bbc
Currently in isolation I have been watching a lot of golf recently and watched Mel's victory at the weekend, which was very impressive. The one thing that struck me was the lack of hazards on the course which made it a bit of a birdy feist. Nothing wrong with that but a marked contrast to the mens courses. I will be interested to see how this weeks course compares.
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05/10/2020 13:40:19 3 1
bbc
-19 the same score that won on the PGA Tour this week, -18 at the Corales and -21 at the Safeway. Low scoring courses dominate all the tours generally
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05/10/2020 13:15:10 4 17
bbc
There are some very good women runners an swimmers who get little coverage
The current standard of Top Women is nowhere near that of the Over 50s Mens Tour
Women are playing on extremely short courses which nullifies the advantage of any long hitter on their tour
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EJ
05/10/2020 13:52:31 8 4
bbc
You mean like Hanbury Manor and TPC Boston. Get a grip.Distance favours us men because of physiology so playing off men’s professional tees would be ludicrous.
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05/10/2020 13:20:21 24 3
bbc
Well played to Mel Reid (and Georgia Hall two weeks ago). Great temperament in a real tough competition. More and more I am watching the ladies golf and recognising it is every bit as brilliant as the mens. Good luch to all the GB&I girls at the forthcoming major. You can do it!
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EJ
05/10/2020 13:55:01 3 3
bbc
Agreed. The women’s game is enjoyable to watch. Also good to see Europeans winning over there. Hope the recent wins by Georgia and Mel inspire others.
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05/10/2020 17:33:54 6 2
bbc
These Girls can play!!! Really solid. Been watching them for years - men could learn so much from their lack of brute force and timing / finesse.
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05/10/2020 12:57:50 2 9
bbc
Currently in isolation I have been watching a lot of golf recently and watched Mel's victory at the weekend, which was very impressive. The one thing that struck me was the lack of hazards on the course which made it a bit of a birdy feist. Nothing wrong with that but a marked contrast to the mens courses. I will be interested to see how this weeks course compares.
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EJ
05/10/2020 13:57:37 1 0
bbc
Like Hanbury Manor and TPC Boston you mean. Won with scores of -27 and -30.
There are courses like that in all tours.
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05/10/2020 12:57:05 1 5
bbc
Great to see Brits having success on LPGA Tour for a change. It's not that I watch this tour that much, but have the Koreans appeared yet cos dont seem to be many around ?
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EJ
05/10/2020 14:04:20 2 0
bbc
Most of them are there.
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05/10/2020 14:05:55 18 1
bbc
Great wins for Georgie Hall and Mel Reid in the last couple of weeks.

But reality is the top GB players are barely threatening the world top 30 in recent times never mind the top 10.

Last time a GB golfer was regularly competing for the top prizes was Laura Davies!

Lets hope these wins give them the impetus to be consistently delivering top finishes against the world's best.
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05/10/2020 14:14:23 13 1
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Fair comment re contending regularly, but at last Georgia managed to pick up a major in 2018.

Hull could/should have achieved more by now. A few years ago Anneka commented that Hull could be really good if she took the game seriously.
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05/10/2020 14:37:44 1 1
bbc
Barely threatening top 30 seems an odd comment when Charley has been in there for at least the last three years, and Georgia was top 10 in 2018. Be great if they could all follow up with more wins but competition is seriously hard with talent all around the globe. Hopefully this will be a push forward for each of them.
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05/10/2020 18:58:27 2 5
bbc
Laura Davis puts me in mind of a Pringle Bean Bag. About as much personality as well.
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05/10/2020 14:05:55 18 1
bbc
Great wins for Georgie Hall and Mel Reid in the last couple of weeks.

But reality is the top GB players are barely threatening the world top 30 in recent times never mind the top 10.

Last time a GB golfer was regularly competing for the top prizes was Laura Davies!

Lets hope these wins give them the impetus to be consistently delivering top finishes against the world's best.
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05/10/2020 14:14:23 13 1
bbc
Fair comment re contending regularly, but at last Georgia managed to pick up a major in 2018.

Hull could/should have achieved more by now. A few years ago Anneka commented that Hull could be really good if she took the game seriously.
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05/10/2020 13:15:10 4 17
bbc
There are some very good women runners an swimmers who get little coverage
The current standard of Top Women is nowhere near that of the Over 50s Mens Tour
Women are playing on extremely short courses which nullifies the advantage of any long hitter on their tour
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05/10/2020 14:19:08 4 1
bbc
Your comment makes no sense. You seem to be slagging the women off for not being as good as the Masters men, but also try to make some point about female runners and swimmers ... who would fit into the exact same observation of being slower than their male counterparts. Not sure what point you were trying to make.
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05/10/2020 14:43:53 1 1
bbc
I EXPLAIN Gap between male runners and swimmers versus female is far less than that between male golfers and female
In past the top female golfers would have given the male over 50s a serious game
That is no longer the case
Playing off very short courses with absurdly generous pars does women no favours and actually damages chances of women who are able to drive a long way off the tee
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05/10/2020 13:26:38 8 11
bbc
Trust a couple of men to be sarcastic about women's golf. Typical!
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05/10/2020 14:21:17 10 5
bbc
"Typical?". So we're all chauvinists, are we? Don't fall into that trap, it's lazy thinking. Yes, there are some eejits, but don't tar all men with the same brush like you did with your "typical" comment.
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05/10/2020 14:24:22 3 8
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I was surprised at the lack of social distancing on the 18th green after Mel won, tons of hugging going on and large group gathered closely. Maybe covid isn't an issue in the states !!
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05/10/2020 14:32:38 6 2
bbc
In fairness its probably slightly less of an issue in an outdoor space with people who are tested weekly. May not be the visual we're used to now but the risk would be very low particularly as it's not prolonged contact either. Seems a shame that's your take away from this.
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05/10/2020 14:24:22 3 8
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I was surprised at the lack of social distancing on the 18th green after Mel won, tons of hugging going on and large group gathered closely. Maybe covid isn't an issue in the states !!
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05/10/2020 14:32:38 6 2
bbc
In fairness its probably slightly less of an issue in an outdoor space with people who are tested weekly. May not be the visual we're used to now but the risk would be very low particularly as it's not prolonged contact either. Seems a shame that's your take away from this.
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05/10/2020 14:41:35 2 2
bbc
I mention it because it stood out clearly compared to other golf tournaments I have watched in recent months. Seriously, go back and watch the couple of minutes after she holed the winning putt.
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05/10/2020 14:49:44 2 2
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There have been 3 positive tests on the pga tour, all detected at tournaments. Yes, risk is lower than in some other environments, but group hugs are clearly daft behaviour. You clearly think it was ok though.
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05/10/2020 12:57:50 2 9
bbc
Currently in isolation I have been watching a lot of golf recently and watched Mel's victory at the weekend, which was very impressive. The one thing that struck me was the lack of hazards on the course which made it a bit of a birdy feist. Nothing wrong with that but a marked contrast to the mens courses. I will be interested to see how this weeks course compares.
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05/10/2020 14:37:32 2 0
bbc
Lack of hazards?

I guess they took them all out and replaced the turf then.

It is a golf course the hazards are there for men and women. Different tees means that the same hazards come into play.
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05/10/2020 14:05:55 18 1
bbc
Great wins for Georgie Hall and Mel Reid in the last couple of weeks.

But reality is the top GB players are barely threatening the world top 30 in recent times never mind the top 10.

Last time a GB golfer was regularly competing for the top prizes was Laura Davies!

Lets hope these wins give them the impetus to be consistently delivering top finishes against the world's best.
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05/10/2020 14:37:44 1 1
bbc
Barely threatening top 30 seems an odd comment when Charley has been in there for at least the last three years, and Georgia was top 10 in 2018. Be great if they could all follow up with more wins but competition is seriously hard with talent all around the globe. Hopefully this will be a push forward for each of them.
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05/10/2020 15:09:01 0 1
bbc
Without wishing to be too pedantic...

After their recent wins Georgia Hall is 29th, Mel Reid 35th and after missing the cut last week Charley Hull has dropped to 37th.

OK Charley Hull has been in the mid to high 20's and Georgia Hall once got a lot higher with the points from her 2018 Open win.

South Korea by comparison have 9 players in the world top 20, so hard to argue GB are doing great.
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05/10/2020 14:32:38 6 2
bbc
In fairness its probably slightly less of an issue in an outdoor space with people who are tested weekly. May not be the visual we're used to now but the risk would be very low particularly as it's not prolonged contact either. Seems a shame that's your take away from this.
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05/10/2020 14:41:35 2 2
bbc
I mention it because it stood out clearly compared to other golf tournaments I have watched in recent months. Seriously, go back and watch the couple of minutes after she holed the winning putt.
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05/10/2020 14:19:08 4 1
bbc
Your comment makes no sense. You seem to be slagging the women off for not being as good as the Masters men, but also try to make some point about female runners and swimmers ... who would fit into the exact same observation of being slower than their male counterparts. Not sure what point you were trying to make.
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05/10/2020 14:43:53 1 1
bbc
I EXPLAIN Gap between male runners and swimmers versus female is far less than that between male golfers and female
In past the top female golfers would have given the male over 50s a serious game
That is no longer the case
Playing off very short courses with absurdly generous pars does women no favours and actually damages chances of women who are able to drive a long way off the tee
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05/10/2020 14:58:40 3 0
bbc
Not sure I agree with the observations or the fairly meaningless comparisons between elite women and male over 50’s across completely different sports. Power / fitness of running vs a more skill-based sport where longevity is more likely.

Tom Watson nearly won a major at almost 60. I can’t see usain bolt making an Olympic final in 20 years time, can you?
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05/10/2020 17:46:35 1 0
bbc
Have you seen how short the seniors courses are? And how many rounds do they play?
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05/10/2020 14:32:38 6 2
bbc
In fairness its probably slightly less of an issue in an outdoor space with people who are tested weekly. May not be the visual we're used to now but the risk would be very low particularly as it's not prolonged contact either. Seems a shame that's your take away from this.
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05/10/2020 14:49:44 2 2
bbc
There have been 3 positive tests on the pga tour, all detected at tournaments. Yes, risk is lower than in some other environments, but group hugs are clearly daft behaviour. You clearly think it was ok though.
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05/10/2020 14:43:53 1 1
bbc
I EXPLAIN Gap between male runners and swimmers versus female is far less than that between male golfers and female
In past the top female golfers would have given the male over 50s a serious game
That is no longer the case
Playing off very short courses with absurdly generous pars does women no favours and actually damages chances of women who are able to drive a long way off the tee
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05/10/2020 14:58:40 3 0
bbc
Not sure I agree with the observations or the fairly meaningless comparisons between elite women and male over 50’s across completely different sports. Power / fitness of running vs a more skill-based sport where longevity is more likely.

Tom Watson nearly won a major at almost 60. I can’t see usain bolt making an Olympic final in 20 years time, can you?
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05/10/2020 14:37:44 1 1
bbc
Barely threatening top 30 seems an odd comment when Charley has been in there for at least the last three years, and Georgia was top 10 in 2018. Be great if they could all follow up with more wins but competition is seriously hard with talent all around the globe. Hopefully this will be a push forward for each of them.
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05/10/2020 15:09:01 0 1
bbc
Without wishing to be too pedantic...

After their recent wins Georgia Hall is 29th, Mel Reid 35th and after missing the cut last week Charley Hull has dropped to 37th.

OK Charley Hull has been in the mid to high 20's and Georgia Hall once got a lot higher with the points from her 2018 Open win.

South Korea by comparison have 9 players in the world top 20, so hard to argue GB are doing great.
tonnes of hys on obscure events and yet nothing on any athletics forms, cant think why, especially marathon would generate some sort of well done comments, very strange Removed
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05/10/2020 17:21:36 6 5
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There's loads of sports that are covered on this site that don't have HYS's, horse racing and swimming, for example.

But there is a HYS on this tournament ... do you actually have anything to contribute or were you just having a moan about athletics?
tonnes of hys on obscure events and yet nothing on any athletics forms, cant think why, especially marathon would generate some sort of well done comments, very strange Removed
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05/10/2020 17:21:36 6 5
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There's loads of sports that are covered on this site that don't have HYS's, horse racing and swimming, for example.

But there is a HYS on this tournament ... do you actually have anything to contribute or were you just having a moan about athletics?
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EJ
05/10/2020 13:55:01 3 3
bbc
Agreed. The women’s game is enjoyable to watch. Also good to see Europeans winning over there. Hope the recent wins by Georgia and Mel inspire others.
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05/10/2020 17:33:54 6 2
bbc
These Girls can play!!! Really solid. Been watching them for years - men could learn so much from their lack of brute force and timing / finesse.
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05/10/2020 14:43:53 1 1
bbc
I EXPLAIN Gap between male runners and swimmers versus female is far less than that between male golfers and female
In past the top female golfers would have given the male over 50s a serious game
That is no longer the case
Playing off very short courses with absurdly generous pars does women no favours and actually damages chances of women who are able to drive a long way off the tee
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05/10/2020 17:46:35 1 0
bbc
Have you seen how short the seniors courses are? And how many rounds do they play?
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06/10/2020 10:16:39 0 0
bbc
His near miss, at the age of 59, when he came 2nd to Stewart Cink at the British Open,not some seniors tour event.
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05/10/2020 17:49:12 5 7
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Well played both ladies for last week and this. I see Mr Carter has no comment section on Sergio. Typical as his idol McIlroy wasn't there. But again, enjoyed the last few lpga weeks.
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05/10/2020 18:33:08 7 8
bbc
I just read the article about Sergio's excellent victory on the PGA Tour, stiffing his approach to 2 feet to win by 1 shot, and the article is absolutely pitiful.
Nothing about the excellent Aaron Rai for us to chat about either.

These golf pages are sickly.
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05/10/2020 17:49:12 5 7
bbc
Well played both ladies for last week and this. I see Mr Carter has no comment section on Sergio. Typical as his idol McIlroy wasn't there. But again, enjoyed the last few lpga weeks.
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05/10/2020 18:33:08 7 8
bbc
I just read the article about Sergio's excellent victory on the PGA Tour, stiffing his approach to 2 feet to win by 1 shot, and the article is absolutely pitiful.
Nothing about the excellent Aaron Rai for us to chat about either.

These golf pages are sickly.
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05/10/2020 20:34:46 2 1
bbc
maksi. Bbc golf attitudes toward most European golfers are sickly
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05/10/2020 18:34:54 3 2
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@Stevie Power: I guess your point is that Iain could’ve included Sergio’s win within his article - which is a fair point.
However, we can mention it on a HYS Golf thread. Good win for Rai too.
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05/10/2020 14:05:55 18 1
bbc
Great wins for Georgie Hall and Mel Reid in the last couple of weeks.

But reality is the top GB players are barely threatening the world top 30 in recent times never mind the top 10.

Last time a GB golfer was regularly competing for the top prizes was Laura Davies!

Lets hope these wins give them the impetus to be consistently delivering top finishes against the world's best.
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05/10/2020 18:58:27 2 5
bbc
Laura Davis puts me in mind of a Pringle Bean Bag. About as much personality as well.
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05/10/2020 19:19:48 7 10
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Was there no men's golf this weekend?
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05/10/2020 19:22:45 5 5
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Yes, there are articles about Sergio's and Aaron Rai's respective wins. Just look at the main golf page.
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05/10/2020 19:49:40 2 3
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Just had 2 magnificent tournaments in Ireland and Scotland and then Sergio's impressive victory after a 3 year wait, eagling the 14th and birdieing the last to achieve it, and all we can chat about is womens golf, MAC, Woodsy and that DeChambeau is hitting the ball further than those 2 which is putting a few peoples nose out of place. Not mine mind. I can't wait to see him tee it up again, and win
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05/10/2020 19:19:48 7 10
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Was there no men's golf this weekend?
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05/10/2020 19:22:45 5 5
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Yes, there are articles about Sergio's and Aaron Rai's respective wins. Just look at the main golf page.
I would've thought the average golf fan world prefer to discuss those events than the LPGA tbqhwy. Removed
athletics is major in the sports world and yet no hys, but plenty on minor sports Removed
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05/10/2020 19:44:44 2 1
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Go away
athletics is major in the sports world and yet no hys, but plenty on minor sports Removed
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05/10/2020 19:44:44 2 1
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Go away
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05/10/2020 19:19:48 7 10
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Was there no men's golf this weekend?
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05/10/2020 19:49:40 2 3
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Just had 2 magnificent tournaments in Ireland and Scotland and then Sergio's impressive victory after a 3 year wait, eagling the 14th and birdieing the last to achieve it, and all we can chat about is womens golf, MAC, Woodsy and that DeChambeau is hitting the ball further than those 2 which is putting a few peoples nose out of place. Not mine mind. I can't wait to see him tee it up again, and win
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05/10/2020 21:17:05 2 1
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Indeed Maksi. You'd have thought that a Rolex Series event with the three Englishmen and even Marc Warren in with an outside chance going up the last would've been worth a HYS also. The same goes for Sergio and his win. It's as if there is a quota of one HYS a week for golf, unless Woods or McIlroy are involved.
why no hys on athletics, major sports, loads of events Removed
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05/10/2020 20:01:55 1 2
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Sergio win again, Maksi! That depends on them “Golfing Gods.”
I was really impressed with Ventura from your neck of the woods.
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05/10/2020 20:07:13 2 7
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You lost me with your Golfing Gods comment.

Yeah like London busses Norway wait for a half decent male golfer to come along ( since the beginning of time ) and suddenly we have 2.
Viktor picked up 4 million kroner for his efforts at the Fed Ex cup and now Ventura has picked up 2 million kroner twice over the past few weeks.

Great money for not winning anything?
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05/10/2020 20:07:18 1 1
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I was impressed that the likes of poulter and fleetwood clearly enjoyed playing in abysmal conditions, particularly on the saturday. Lots of courses closed that day, it was so bad.
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05/10/2020 20:01:55 1 2
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Sergio win again, Maksi! That depends on them “Golfing Gods.”
I was really impressed with Ventura from your neck of the woods.
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05/10/2020 20:07:13 2 7
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You lost me with your Golfing Gods comment.

Yeah like London busses Norway wait for a half decent male golfer to come along ( since the beginning of time ) and suddenly we have 2.
Viktor picked up 4 million kroner for his efforts at the Fed Ex cup and now Ventura has picked up 2 million kroner twice over the past few weeks.

Great money for not winning anything?
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05/10/2020 20:01:55 1 2
bbc
Sergio win again, Maksi! That depends on them “Golfing Gods.”
I was really impressed with Ventura from your neck of the woods.
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05/10/2020 20:07:18 1 1
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I was impressed that the likes of poulter and fleetwood clearly enjoyed playing in abysmal conditions, particularly on the saturday. Lots of courses closed that day, it was so bad.
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05/10/2020 20:23:44 2 5
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He’s quite petulant, Maksi, and always seems to have an excuse does Sergio.
A shame really because he should have won a few majors before his Augusta win.
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05/10/2020 20:27:42 2 13
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True Matt on all counts.

That said I have never judged a golf player on the amount of Majors he has won.

I judge a player on the amount of Ryder Cup points he has won.
Let's be honest, just getting in the Ryder Cup team is hard enough, and then going head to head against the cream of the USA, and winning is phenomenal.

That is why I put Sergio and Westy miles ahead of the likes of MclLroy.
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05/10/2020 20:31:34 1 1
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There’s some fantastic footage on YouTube of his various meltdowns. But you’re right, he’s made an awful lot of excuses over the years, and some of his meltdowns have been too much, like when he got disqualified for damaging greens in a rage. Somehow I still like the guy though, delighted to see him win.
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05/10/2020 20:23:44 2 5
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He’s quite petulant, Maksi, and always seems to have an excuse does Sergio.
A shame really because he should have won a few majors before his Augusta win.
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05/10/2020 20:27:42 2 13
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True Matt on all counts.

That said I have never judged a golf player on the amount of Majors he has won.

I judge a player on the amount of Ryder Cup points he has won.
Let's be honest, just getting in the Ryder Cup team is hard enough, and then going head to head against the cream of the USA, and winning is phenomenal.

That is why I put Sergio and Westy miles ahead of the likes of MclLroy.
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gg
05/10/2020 21:01:44 3 0
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LOL your such a joker, I thought you were serious for a minute ???????????
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06/10/2020 12:31:21 0 0
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Ryder Cup points. Well, I suppose you have to hang your hat on something don't you?
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05/10/2020 20:23:44 2 5
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He’s quite petulant, Maksi, and always seems to have an excuse does Sergio.
A shame really because he should have won a few majors before his Augusta win.
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05/10/2020 20:31:34 1 1
bbc
There’s some fantastic footage on YouTube of his various meltdowns. But you’re right, he’s made an awful lot of excuses over the years, and some of his meltdowns have been too much, like when he got disqualified for damaging greens in a rage. Somehow I still like the guy though, delighted to see him win.
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05/10/2020 18:33:08 7 8
bbc
I just read the article about Sergio's excellent victory on the PGA Tour, stiffing his approach to 2 feet to win by 1 shot, and the article is absolutely pitiful.
Nothing about the excellent Aaron Rai for us to chat about either.

These golf pages are sickly.
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05/10/2020 20:34:46 2 1
bbc
maksi. Bbc golf attitudes toward most European golfers are sickly
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gg
05/10/2020 20:52:12 10 4
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Let's stick to the article about the success of British women golfers winning tournaments and not about a couple of Norwegian men winning millions from not winning tournaments, !!!
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05/10/2020 20:27:42 2 13
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True Matt on all counts.

That said I have never judged a golf player on the amount of Majors he has won.

I judge a player on the amount of Ryder Cup points he has won.
Let's be honest, just getting in the Ryder Cup team is hard enough, and then going head to head against the cream of the USA, and winning is phenomenal.

That is why I put Sergio and Westy miles ahead of the likes of MclLroy.
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LOL your such a joker, I thought you were serious for a minute ???????????
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Yes, there are articles about Sergio's and Aaron Rai's respective wins. Just look at the main golf page.
I would've thought the average golf fan world prefer to discuss those events than the LPGA tbqhwy. Removed
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05/10/2020 21:15:56 2 3
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Don’t go all virtue, gg. Not good!
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05/10/2020 19:49:40 2 3
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Just had 2 magnificent tournaments in Ireland and Scotland and then Sergio's impressive victory after a 3 year wait, eagling the 14th and birdieing the last to achieve it, and all we can chat about is womens golf, MAC, Woodsy and that DeChambeau is hitting the ball further than those 2 which is putting a few peoples nose out of place. Not mine mind. I can't wait to see him tee it up again, and win
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05/10/2020 21:17:05 2 1
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Indeed Maksi. You'd have thought that a Rolex Series event with the three Englishmen and even Marc Warren in with an outside chance going up the last would've been worth a HYS also. The same goes for Sergio and his win. It's as if there is a quota of one HYS a week for golf, unless Woods or McIlroy are involved.
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Congrats to Georgia and Mel !
Winning on the LPGA is so incredibly difficult and here we have two British ladies chalking up wins so close to each other - these successes are so impressive and long may they continue.
Hopefully more people will take notice of the Ladies European Tour (& Access Tour) and more sponsorship for ladies golf can be secured.
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Well played to Mel Reid (and Georgia Hall two weeks ago). Great temperament in a real tough competition. More and more I am watching the ladies golf and recognising it is every bit as brilliant as the mens. Good luch to all the GB&I girls at the forthcoming major. You can do it!
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06/10/2020 07:09:50 2 0
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Must admit Charley Hull has not really fulfilled the potential she promised when she burst onto the scene, shame really as I thought we had another top lady golfer there
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Fantastic results for these legends of golf . We are blessed to have two exceptional lady golfers , they can go on to higher glories . Let's hope they don't take each other on , week after week , so we can celebrate a victory on a regular basis from now on . Brilliant news story . Absolutely over the moon with this news .
Sorry for going about Sergio and the brilliant Aaron Rai but saw 15 comments on women's golf before I started and felt an hys on any sort of golf not featuring MAC and Woodsy deserved more attention. Removed
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Still excited about these two fantastic golfers . Surely , like me , millions must have watched these girls destroy the rest , I know I did . I missed a days work to watch it .
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To busy watching the RS getting stuffed 7-2
"I always wanted to be a world class athlete"...oh please, do me a favour...get real! Removed
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to the 7 [so far] 'down' voters...let's hear your views...so what next, Sports Personality of the Year?...New Year's Honours List?...she's won ONE random tournament over there...let's see her performances over a period and then we can judge whether she's 'world class' or not...anyway, extremely presumptuous of her to give HERSELF that accolade!!!
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05/10/2020 17:46:35 1 0
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Have you seen how short the seniors courses are? And how many rounds do they play?
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His near miss, at the age of 59, when he came 2nd to Stewart Cink at the British Open,not some seniors tour event.
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to the 7 [so far] 'down' voters...let's hear your views...so what next, Sports Personality of the Year?...New Year's Honours List?...she's won ONE random tournament over there...let's see her performances over a period and then we can judge whether she's 'world class' or not...anyway, extremely presumptuous of her to give HERSELF that accolade!!!
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06/10/2020 11:46:56 3 1
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Great news for Mel - always been a great representative for the sport.
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2ironkid: I'm not sure what you're grumbling about.
She said that she won "against a world class field".
Is it the strongest field of the year? No.
Is it world class? Yes.
Did she describe herself as world class? No.
Is she right to be excited and exuberant after her first ever LPGA win? Yes.
Which bit of this do you have a problem with?
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"did she describe herself as world class"...YES!!!...read the 3rd para from the end!
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2ironkid: I'm not sure what you're grumbling about.
She said that she won "against a world class field".
Is it the strongest field of the year? No.
Is it world class? Yes.
Did she describe herself as world class? No.
Is she right to be excited and exuberant after her first ever LPGA win? Yes.
Which bit of this do you have a problem with?
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"did she describe herself as world class"...YES!!!...read the 3rd para from the end!
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That's checkmate to the2ironkid ??
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06/10/2020 12:51:22 1 1
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Anyone in the top 50 in the world is world class. Sergio was actually outside the top 50 until last weekend. I assume you don't think he is isn't world class?
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So she did! Missed that bit of the sentence. Got a bit carried away with herself, but just shows how tour pros actually think about themselves.

I once spoke to the coach of an olympic sports team, and the entire team were asked individually who they thought the best person in the team was, and every one of them nominated himself.
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Surely these two unique golfers will win the Majors for the next 10 years as they are exceptional. The LPGA will be ruled by them from now on . They will be fighting for the No 1 spot every other week . Just cannot figure out why it has took them so long though . Anyway , fantastic to witness such magical golfers . How they can outplay their opponents , is unbelievable .
you still sound bitter about Sunday's result! Or perhaps jealous about not ever winning anything of importance your whole life. Removed
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Surely these two unique golfers will win the Majors for the next 10 years as they are exceptional. The LPGA will be ruled by them from now on . They will be fighting for the No 1 spot every other week . Just cannot figure out why it has took them so long though . Anyway , fantastic to witness such magical golfers . How they can outplay their opponents , is unbelievable .
you still sound bitter about Sunday's result! Or perhaps jealous about not ever winning anything of importance your whole life. Removed
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"did she describe herself as world class"...YES!!!...read the 3rd para from the end!
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That's checkmate to the2ironkid ??
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True Matt on all counts.

That said I have never judged a golf player on the amount of Majors he has won.

I judge a player on the amount of Ryder Cup points he has won.
Let's be honest, just getting in the Ryder Cup team is hard enough, and then going head to head against the cream of the USA, and winning is phenomenal.

That is why I put Sergio and Westy miles ahead of the likes of MclLroy.
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Ryder Cup points. Well, I suppose you have to hang your hat on something don't you?
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It is so nice to hear from someone on here who appreciate ladies golf
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06/10/2020 12:42:02 1 1
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Personally I believe the standard of putting on the LPGA is on a par(no pun intended) with the men's tour
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The average man should be watching women's golf as to how the game should be played, timing, tempo and not brute force on 6600/6850 yard (for majors) courses, longer than that which the average man plays. The men play a totally different type of game because of their physiology, just as Linford Christie ran faster than Dina Asher Smith. I prefer to watch the women at most sports not only golf.
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"I prefer to watch the women at most sports not only golf." i bet you do!
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Still excited about these two fantastic golfers . Surely , like me , millions must have watched these girls destroy the rest , I know I did . I missed a days work to watch it .
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To busy watching the RS getting stuffed 7-2
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"did she describe herself as world class"...YES!!!...read the 3rd para from the end!
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06/10/2020 12:51:22 1 1
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Anyone in the top 50 in the world is world class. Sergio was actually outside the top 50 until last weekend. I assume you don't think he is isn't world class?
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"did she describe herself as world class"...YES!!!...read the 3rd para from the end!
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So she did! Missed that bit of the sentence. Got a bit carried away with herself, but just shows how tour pros actually think about themselves.

I once spoke to the coach of an olympic sports team, and the entire team were asked individually who they thought the best person in the team was, and every one of them nominated himself.
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The average man should be watching women's golf as to how the game should be played, timing, tempo and not brute force on 6600/6850 yard (for majors) courses, longer than that which the average man plays. The men play a totally different type of game because of their physiology, just as Linford Christie ran faster than Dina Asher Smith. I prefer to watch the women at most sports not only golf.
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"I prefer to watch the women at most sports not only golf." i bet you do!
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All golf is far to slow these days.
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well done Mel - superb
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Mel should write a book about how she has managed to turn her game around in the past year , really from zero to hero , it would be an inspiration to so many people, from 341 in the world in June 2019 to 35 now and destined for the top 10
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There are some very good women runners an swimmers who get little coverage
The current standard of Top Women is nowhere near that of the Over 50s Mens Tour
Women are playing on extremely short courses which nullifies the advantage of any long hitter on their tour
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this is ignorant
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06/10/2020 16:18:05 1 1
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Great win for Mel at the weekend and Georgia the week before. With a lot of the South Koreans missing for the next major it could be a really good opportunity for a UK winner.
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06/10/2020 17:07:35 0 1
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World's No's 1 and 2 soon , I believe for the next 10 years at least .
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06/10/2020 18:32:57 2 0
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Ah give it a rest! They won, they should be happy, it's a good thing.
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World's No's 1 and 2 soon , I believe for the next 10 years at least .
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06/10/2020 18:32:57 2 0
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Ah give it a rest! They won, they should be happy, it's a good thing.
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Jim , you should be delighted that we have world class lady golfers that can dominate for the next decade . It's positively so exciting to be able to share this phenomenon . Let's not be negative , James .
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Ah give it a rest! They won, they should be happy, it's a good thing.
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Jim , you should be delighted that we have world class lady golfers that can dominate for the next decade . It's positively so exciting to be able to share this phenomenon . Let's not be negative , James .
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Nobody is suggesting that they are going to dominate globally. Stop being an eejit. Maybe go back to the football hys’s
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Jim , you should be delighted that we have world class lady golfers that can dominate for the next decade . It's positively so exciting to be able to share this phenomenon . Let's not be negative , James .
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Nobody is suggesting that they are going to dominate globally. Stop being an eejit. Maybe go back to the football hys’s