Coronavirus R number increases as cases rise
25/09/2020 | news | other | 2,286
Every case is estimated to result in between 1.2 and 1.5 further infections, government estimates find.
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25/09/2020 17:48:17 7 3
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Speaking as a ‘clinically vulnerable‘ parent of a primary school pupil. I can confirm, despite their best efforts at school, our family is now in quarantine awaiting CV19 results. We have been working from home, used click and collect for food and had no contact with anyone except from school. I am choosing now to homeschool until this farce is over! I refuse to be cannon fodder!
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25/09/2020 17:48:27 2 1
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@766 bobby fet Medical professionals disagree with you - https://www.aier.org/article/open-letter-from-medical-doctors-and-health-professionals-to-all-belgian-authorities-and-all-belgian-media/ --- Interesting. But why would Belgian medics post an open letter on the website of the American Institute of Economic Research ... ? Not normally into conspiracies but whose agenda is this?
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25/09/2020 17:48:37 0 1
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Bigmowlay Oh I thought you knew what went on in China from your previous posts in response to mine. No need to consult your friends.
25/09/2020 17:53:49 4 1
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@1103 "Oh I thought you knew what went on in China from your previous posts in response to mine." I know the south east of China well and have been to other parts but not for very long It's just that I am not sure what you are asking about
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25/09/2020 17:48:47 8 1
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Just to show us the sign of these times...People rushing out and buying trolleys full of Toilet rolls? If you run out any piece of old paper will do the job. When I was a child we had newspaper cut up hanging on a string in the loo, funnily it worked fine, If the print came off? OK I couldn't see it anyway!
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25/09/2020 17:49:17 5 4
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Reckon Johnson or Cummings care about people of UK?
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25/09/2020 17:49:27 8 1
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It is hard to run a marathon but that it a good simile for what we are being called in to do. We cannot just ignore this and go back to 'normal' but we can go about our daily lives with due care to try and avoid getting infected or infecting others. Those with symptoms and their contacts simply must self isolate.
25/09/2020 17:56:11 6 2
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1106 by Christopher Clarke-Williams "It is hard to run a marathon but that it a good simile for what we are being called in to do. We cannot just ignore this and go back to 'normal' but we can go about our daily lives with due care to try and avoid getting infected or infecting others." ---------- That is a brilliant analysis. Be kind, Smile at your neighbour.
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25/09/2020 17:49:37 1 6
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Ovalballs Imagine Grampa and his magic money tree. The Chinese would have loved him as they did he.
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25/09/2020 17:49:58 4 8
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Lockdown supporters what will pay for your precious NHS when we have no money left!! Your ignorance around finance is incredible. We have to go back to normal ASAP or we will have no country left !!
25/09/2020 17:54:50 13 6
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1108.Mr barney Lockdown supporters what will pay for your precious NHS when we have no money left!! Your ignorance around finance is incredible. We have to go back to normal ASAP or we will have no country left !! It's because we understand that the NHS will be COMPLETELY overrun if the virus is allowed to run free Your ignorance has lead you to support Brexit and this
Almighty God, spare me from the filthy Chinese virus! Removed
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25/09/2020 17:50:08 11 2
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1095. Posted byAndreon 1 minute ago Almighty God, spare me from the filthy Chinese virus! --- Viruses don't possess passports or recognise boundaries.
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25/09/2020 17:50:08 0 0
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.... And increases will happen until approx 7 to 10 days after the new Restrictions (not Lockdown) kicked in owing to the lag effect. Talk to me then and I'll be interested in the numbers.
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25/09/2020 17:50:18 2 8
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While some on here use all covid HYS to slag off the government whether justified or not, I just sigh and think 'thank god we didn't elect Corbyn'. Works both ways you know...
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BLM! No more stop and search! Fatal consequences today. Virus we need to worry about is woke culture. Removed
25/09/2020 17:53:39 11 1
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@1112. cdnorth1 "BLM! No more stop and search! Fatal consequences today. Virus we need to worry about is woke culture" Go back to slerp
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25/09/2020 18:06:46 9 1
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1112 cdnorth1 BLM! No more stop and search. Fatal consequences today. Virus we need to worry about is woke culture. Suggest you keep your opinions to yourself when you don't know the facts.
25/09/2020 17:45:35 7 4
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Why are People banging on about New Zealand ? It has a population of 4.8 million in totally different housing conditions there’s no comparisons
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25/09/2020 17:50:28 8 8
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1085.lamb Why are People banging on about New Zealand ? It has a population of 4.8 million in totally different housing conditions there’s no comparisons ???????????????? Another clown ?? who thinks the virus can count ???????????? Auckland has a population of 1.5 million ???????????? No wonder you voted for Brexit ????????????
25/09/2020 18:01:03 19 1
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1113. Posted byovalballon 3 minutes ago Let's explain it in simple terms. New Zealand population density 21.7 per sq kilometer UK population density 275 per sq kilometer. The denser the population, the easier and quicker it is for a virus to spread. Even my GCSE class used to understand this.
25/09/2020 17:36:01 4 3
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@1032 "You clearly know the square root of […] all about China." If you say so But I lived and worked there for 13 years out of the last 35 Have many friends and some family there And I was last there in June Days of empire and sub-factions are gone. The government has an iron grip
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25/09/2020 17:50:48 5 1
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1050.bigmowlay @1032 "You clearly know the square root of […] all about China."...But I lived and worked there for 13 years out of the last 35....And I was last there in June =You should reconsider moving with your family to China again before things are getting out of control there. I was told by brits last week on the jet China allows brits to enter China if you get a sponsor from China
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25/09/2020 17:50:48 11 7
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"Wet market" just means all the surfaces are tiled for washing with a hose because live animals are sold and slaughtered there Buying food animals alive is an important part of Chinese culture and arguably safer than pre-slaughter especially where not much refrigeration is available Cutting your meat into nice shapes and wrapping it in plastic in a filthy UK abattoir does not make it safe
25/09/2020 18:28:29 4 7
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1115. Posted by bigmowlay on 35 minutes ago "Wet market" just means all the surfaces are tiled for washing with a hose because live animals are sold and slaughtered there Buying food animals alive is an important part of Chinese culture and arguably safer than pre-slaughter especially where not much refrigeration is available Oh right, that's ok then. You eat it.
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25/09/2020 17:50:58 16 2
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Once asked my Father why, in 1940, he climbed into a Spitfire and took off knowing that statistically he had a pretty good chance of being dead 30 minutes later. His answer was very illuminating - "You never believed it was going to be you". Unfortunately a trait that serves well in wartime doesn't do so well trying to convince people they are going to get a virus.
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25/09/2020 17:51:08 7 18
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Nobody cares anymore. Isolate the vulnerable and secure the care homes. For the rest of us - life as normal. This is what they did in Sweden, and look where they are now. The Success story of The EU.
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jay
25/09/2020 17:51:18 6 8
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The only covidiots are the ones following the government graphs ?? And you all know it’s true even then They just can’t admit it ???? Next slide please
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25/09/2020 17:51:18 6 4
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We should have locked-down sooner, closed our borders & kept them closed & enforced lockdown vigorously-we would be Covid-free already now! All we can do now is ban 18-30 from any social spaces/congregating except for work. Close Universities for now, close our borders, wear masks, and social distance as much as possible until there is either a proper vaccine or the virus burns itself out.
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25/09/2020 17:51:28 7 2
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There is every comparison with New Zealand! Only coronavirus-deniers would seek to deny one. Like the people who ignore the fact that Sweden has twenty times the death toll of one of it's nearest neighbours, and think this is OK! Control the borders, control the virus and you get LONG-TERM 1) lives saved 2) people's health saved 3) civil liberties saved, 4) jobs saved. Fail, and you risk the lot!
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25/09/2020 17:51:49 7 0
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most people probably don't know their r's from their elbows.
25/09/2020 17:46:26 3 2
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Shalteir Heaven forbid we acted decisively, when US intelligence warned in November a serious pandemic was on its way. A stitch in time as the saying goes, instead we are on a heading back into the abyss, only this time with winter coming.
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25/09/2020 17:52:29 3 0
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1093. lotus50 Shalteir "Heaven forbid we acted decisively, when US intelligence warned in November a serious pandemic was on its way. A stitch in time as the saying goes, instead we are on a heading back into the abyss, only this time with winter coming." It has been common scientific knowledge for decades that pandemics come, but what is your source that covid was raised by US in November?
25/09/2020 17:58:02 8 0
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1122. You 1093. lotus50 Shalteir Thank you. I searched and found your report. Indeed US intelligence did flag up problems in November. Also I know retrospective sewage analysis has discovered covid in Europe in November and December. The issue becomes why was this not made more public? But was it made public?
25/09/2020 17:46:36 3 8
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The teachers at my daughter's school don't wear face masks when they stand at the school gates. If this is the same everywhere it's hardly surprising the R value is skyrocketing...
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25/09/2020 17:52:29 12 1
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@1094. Posted by Ordinary Brit on Just now The teachers at my daughter's school don't wear face masks when they stand at the school gates. If this is the same everywhere it's hardly surprising the R value is skyrocketing..." As a practicality they can't wear them in class, so what's the point?
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25/09/2020 17:40:43 3 6
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Posted byBarryon 4 minutes ago 6000 positive cases in a population of 66 million means 0.00008 of the population in the UK have flu like symptoms on a typical day. 400 hospital admissions today in the UK means 0.000005 of the population are being treated for a virus. I’m not without compassion for my fellow humans, but come on let’s just get on with life... One word it begins with E!
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25/09/2020 17:52:59 2 5
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@1070: "One word it begins with E!" Excoriation? Epistemological? Epistolary? Errata? Eejit? EU? Eugenicist? Emu? Exemplary? Emulate? Electrolysis? Egregious? Enclave? Exterminate? Effluvia? Ecology? Engorged? Elven? Elevensies? Editor?
25/09/2020 18:00:54 1 0
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@ 1124. Curmudgeon The UK and the World is experiencing a serious pandemic .If you think your post of words beginning with E helps in any way..Please enlighten us ?
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25/09/2020 17:53:29 5 5
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What a total joke. Wales leading the way on local, focussed, R influenced lockdowns. England? London’s every borough an area of concern but let’s not bother with any focussed restrictions but hey in my city of Bath let’s clamp down with 10 pm curfew for the hell of it (despite infections being amongst the lowest in England). You are a complete inept embarrassment Boris.
25/09/2020 18:10:09 0 1
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"1125 oshis Missing Yarmulke What a total joke. Wales leading the way on local, focussed, R influenced lockdowns. England? London’s every borough an area of concern but let’s not bother with any focussed restrictions but hey ..." -- No: my borough Camden is below avg for England.... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274 but the idea that rules vary across a street is daft - we hang together
Just seen a lovely story about 'Magawa' a mine detecting rat. Wonder what he tastes like? Asking for a friend. Removed
25/09/2020 17:57:01 10 1
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@1126 "Just seen a lovely story about 'Magawa' a mine detecting rat." Absolutely awesome He has found 39 landmines and 28 unexploded bombs Think how many lives and limbs he has saved He needs an extra big bit of cheese
BLM! No more stop and search! Fatal consequences today. Virus we need to worry about is woke culture. Removed
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25/09/2020 17:53:39 11 1
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@1112. cdnorth1 "BLM! No more stop and search! Fatal consequences today. Virus we need to worry about is woke culture" Go back to slerp
25/09/2020 17:48:37 0 1
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Bigmowlay Oh I thought you knew what went on in China from your previous posts in response to mine. No need to consult your friends.
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25/09/2020 17:53:49 4 1
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@1103 "Oh I thought you knew what went on in China from your previous posts in response to mine." I know the south east of China well and have been to other parts but not for very long It's just that I am not sure what you are asking about
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nic
25/09/2020 17:54:20 1 3
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Absolute plan. Demic
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25/09/2020 17:54:20 10 6
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I despair, following a conversation as why a friend would not download the new app. he stated he did not wish to know if he had been in the vicinity of someone with covid 19 as he would then feel duty bound to self isolate and he didn't want to. Its not the government causing this but the selfish attitude of too many people.
25/09/2020 17:49:58 4 8
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Lockdown supporters what will pay for your precious NHS when we have no money left!! Your ignorance around finance is incredible. We have to go back to normal ASAP or we will have no country left !!
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25/09/2020 17:54:50 13 6
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1108.Mr barney Lockdown supporters what will pay for your precious NHS when we have no money left!! Your ignorance around finance is incredible. We have to go back to normal ASAP or we will have no country left !! It's because we understand that the NHS will be COMPLETELY overrun if the virus is allowed to run free Your ignorance has lead you to support Brexit and this
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25/09/2020 17:55:20 6 3
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As the Chinese say ‘ may you live in interesting times’
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25/09/2020 17:55:30 7 6
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The virus has so little risk for healthy people that they are willing to infect people with it to test the vaccine. Stop the economic ruin and upcoming mental health crisis and missed cancer diagnoses in this country and shield the vulnerable. Don’t forget this absolute shambles of a prime minister actively encouraged hand shaking and discredited masks not so long ago. Clueless.
25/09/2020 17:49:27 8 1
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It is hard to run a marathon but that it a good simile for what we are being called in to do. We cannot just ignore this and go back to 'normal' but we can go about our daily lives with due care to try and avoid getting infected or infecting others. Those with symptoms and their contacts simply must self isolate.
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25/09/2020 17:56:11 6 2
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1106 by Christopher Clarke-Williams "It is hard to run a marathon but that it a good simile for what we are being called in to do. We cannot just ignore this and go back to 'normal' but we can go about our daily lives with due care to try and avoid getting infected or infecting others." ---------- That is a brilliant analysis. Be kind, Smile at your neighbour.
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25/09/2020 17:56:11 6 7
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People who blame the Tories are forgetting the very same people would be advising Corbyn if he was in power. Wow betide any politician who goes against the best scientific advice..
25/09/2020 18:00:23 13 3
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@1135 Jill B "People who blame the Tories are forgetting the very same people would be advising Corbyn if he was in power. Wow betide any politician who goes against the best scientific advice." The Tories are getting desperate so now blaming experts & bogeyman Corbyn! Bozo did not follow scientific advice instead he boasted about shaking hands with Covid-19 hospital patients!!
Whatever you do, do not mention the virus coming from China in your comments because they will get deleted. The BBC are looking to China as their next financial backer as Brussels will be no more. So Shhh guys if you want your comment to remain.....To hell with the deaths it's all about Auntie. Removed
Just seen a lovely story about 'Magawa' a mine detecting rat. Wonder what he tastes like? Asking for a friend. Removed
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25/09/2020 17:57:01 10 1
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@1126 "Just seen a lovely story about 'Magawa' a mine detecting rat." Absolutely awesome He has found 39 landmines and 28 unexploded bombs Think how many lives and limbs he has saved He needs an extra big bit of cheese
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The wet market is the most laughable excuse especially when the virus doesnt exist naturally. Denial always ends in failure asit will again. Removed
25/09/2020 18:03:34 5 1
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@1138 Tempest77 The wet market is the most laughable excuse especially when the virus doesnt exist naturally. Denial always ends in failure asit will again. --- it's true that data points to it not originating at the Wuhan wet market but what does "doesn't exit naturally" mean? how do you think it does exist?
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25/09/2020 17:57:11 13 3
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"This is what they did in Sweden, and look where they are now. The Success story of The EU" Do you mean the country that has just had it's border closed by one of it's neighbours because of it's intolerable infection rate? The same country that has a death toll twenty times higher than one of it's neighbours, and many, many times higher than all three of it's main neighbours combined?
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25/09/2020 17:57:21 1 1
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Population density calculations are needed. When you live in predominantly rural locations covid is unlikely.
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nic
25/09/2020 17:57:21 3 8
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Lies lies and dammed lies
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25/09/2020 17:57:41 5 5
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The highest number of cases is the 17 to 24 years age group. Also on the BBC ‘don’t scapegoat students over Covid outbreaks’ Most watched ‘freshers on their last night of freedom’ on the BBC. Not social distancing going on there. They only have themselves to blame and then don’t like it when others point it out. This is everybody’s fault but my own. Is what Homer Simpson said.
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25/09/2020 17:57:41 1 1
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Statistics based on age, geography and rural v. urban areas only tell part of the story. From contact tracing there must also be many other ways of categorising. Some of these categories will be too sensitive to report but would be very useful in targeting restrictions.
25/09/2020 17:52:29 3 0
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1093. lotus50 Shalteir "Heaven forbid we acted decisively, when US intelligence warned in November a serious pandemic was on its way. A stitch in time as the saying goes, instead we are on a heading back into the abyss, only this time with winter coming." It has been common scientific knowledge for decades that pandemics come, but what is your source that covid was raised by US in November?
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25/09/2020 17:58:02 8 0
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1122. You 1093. lotus50 Shalteir Thank you. I searched and found your report. Indeed US intelligence did flag up problems in November. Also I know retrospective sewage analysis has discovered covid in Europe in November and December. The issue becomes why was this not made more public? But was it made public?
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25/09/2020 17:59:02 10 2
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Big lockdown looming, not looking good for Christmas. But at least we will save vulnerable lives. That’s worth more than a Turkey dinner!
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25/09/2020 17:59:12 5 9
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People say how can Chinese people eat cats and dogs, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it
25/09/2020 18:04:45 5 0
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1146. Posted by Zpkwdxxk on 2 minutes ago People say how can Chinese people eat cats and dogs, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it Yep, and don't try to eat it whilst its still alive. Have some table manners at least.
25/09/2020 18:08:18 7 1
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1146 Zpkwdxxk “People say how can Chinese people eat cats and dogs, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it” Quite so. Hypocritical to object to one kind of living thing being killed and eaten whilst chewing on a steak. I await the “Oh but we humanely murder our animals”
25/09/2020 18:09:39 4 3
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@1146 "People say how can Chinese people eat cats and dogs, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it" Exactly. Saying what animals others can and can't eat is both racist and speciesist The Cantonese saying is "anything that lives with its back to the sun" and comes from centuries of deprivation and starvation, mostly at the hands of foreign countries Jesus permits this in Mark 7:18-20
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25/09/2020 17:59:52 12 4
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We could have carried on pretty much as normal from March if almost everyone had observed the personal hygiene and safety rules, and at the same time closed down non-essential services and entertainment and avoided crowding. There is no justification in pubs being open... they could have been started up with Government grants when crisis is past. Don't forget we have social security safety net.
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25/09/2020 18:00:13 8 4
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The funny thing is, many brexiteers I asked why they voted answered to "stir it up a bit". Well mother nature's certainly stirred it up with Covid, so at least they're happy.
25/09/2020 18:04:54 4 1
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1148. Posted by Matthew Hopkins "The funny thing is, many brexiteers I asked why they voted answered" Here we go again, the world is the grip of a Pandemic, but some sad individual wants to turn the thread back to Brexit
25/09/2020 17:56:11 6 7
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People who blame the Tories are forgetting the very same people would be advising Corbyn if he was in power. Wow betide any politician who goes against the best scientific advice..
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25/09/2020 18:00:23 13 3
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@1135 Jill B "People who blame the Tories are forgetting the very same people would be advising Corbyn if he was in power. Wow betide any politician who goes against the best scientific advice." The Tories are getting desperate so now blaming experts & bogeyman Corbyn! Bozo did not follow scientific advice instead he boasted about shaking hands with Covid-19 hospital patients!!
25/09/2020 17:50:28 8 8
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1085.lamb Why are People banging on about New Zealand ? It has a population of 4.8 million in totally different housing conditions there’s no comparisons ???????????????? Another clown ?? who thinks the virus can count ???????????? Auckland has a population of 1.5 million ???????????? No wonder you voted for Brexit ????????????
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25/09/2020 18:01:03 19 1
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1113. Posted byovalballon 3 minutes ago Let's explain it in simple terms. New Zealand population density 21.7 per sq kilometer UK population density 275 per sq kilometer. The denser the population, the easier and quicker it is for a virus to spread. Even my GCSE class used to understand this.
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25/09/2020 18:01:43 8 15
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More people die from alcohol and tobacco abuse yet we don't do anything about that and though not contagious they will both be prevalent well after the virus is eradicated in one form or another
25/09/2020 18:10:50 1 0
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1151 notgoingout-reprise But we do do something about smoking and drinking. We warn and warn again. And ban smoking in public places. And all the rest. Please don't be silly, not....
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“ 1126. Posted by Just call me Harry Just seen a lovely story about 'Magawa' a mine detecting rat. Wonder what he tastes like?” They taste of... er.. Rat! The French like to prepare them in red wine. A classic dish. Removed
25/09/2020 18:05:56 3 1
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1152 barmcake. How dare you say that, about FRENCH cuisine. It’s white wine in garlic sauce
1152. Barmcake “ 1126. Posted by Just call me Harry Just seen a lovely story about 'Magawa' a mine detecting rat. Wonder what he tastes like?” They taste of... er.. Rat! The French like to prepare them in red wine. A classic dish. -- Rat au Vin? But isn't that a rat run over by a van? Removed
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25/09/2020 18:01:43 15 9
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Kids are back at school, Covid through the roof again, coincidence? Poor poor government calling all the wrong shots at the wrong time. If these clowns can mess it up they will. Wait for the next crock of #### with a Boris no deal on 31st Dec.
25/09/2020 18:07:58 7 1
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@1153 vin Kids are back at school, Covid through the roof again, coincidence? = Must be. It's certainly not something that Dido Harding could have expected in her job responsible for the test and trace system Apparently (see Private Eye) there are zero health experts on the board in charge of test and trace, who would be aware that a new school term means a lot of new infections
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25/09/2020 18:02:44 8 4
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Just remember, the messages coming from this government over the last couple of weeks are that: A) It'll be our fault if there is an upsurge B) Problems with people getting tests are our fault, too ... not a system that is broken - cannot tell people that test centres just round the corner have spaces, and sending them miles away - and being managed by a government appointed incompetent.
The wet market is the most laughable excuse especially when the virus doesnt exist naturally. Denial always ends in failure asit will again. Removed
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25/09/2020 18:03:34 5 1
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@1138 Tempest77 The wet market is the most laughable excuse especially when the virus doesnt exist naturally. Denial always ends in failure asit will again. --- it's true that data points to it not originating at the Wuhan wet market but what does "doesn't exit naturally" mean? how do you think it does exist?
25/09/2020 17:59:12 5 9
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People say how can Chinese people eat cats and dogs, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it
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25/09/2020 18:04:45 5 0
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1146. Posted by Zpkwdxxk on 2 minutes ago People say how can Chinese people eat cats and dogs, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it Yep, and don't try to eat it whilst its still alive. Have some table manners at least.
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25/09/2020 18:05:05 19 2
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Sickening to see people say this is just flue get on with it.... so far 620 nurses and Doctors have died of Covid despite the best protection. How many more have to die before the ignorant realise its the idiots who don't take precautions that will most likely kill another 620 but what do they care..
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25/09/2020 18:05:15 8 6
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Simple science and maths. If the R is above one the epidemic is growing below 1 decreasing. How do you get it below 1? Lockdown. Consequently, whatever people and politicians say / think there will be another lockdown. The only thing in doubt is when. Now leave it late and more people die and it goes on for longer. So smart leaders would lockdown NOW!
25/09/2020 18:13:51 11 13
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1158 A lockdown is absolutely the last thing we need - the needs of the many MUST outweigh the needs of the few, another lockdown would destroy the country, we need to accept that people will die, the average age of COVID deaths 83 life expectancy in U.K. Male - 79 female 81. We are losing the plot and causing far more damage than has yet been realised.
“ 1126. Posted by Just call me Harry Just seen a lovely story about 'Magawa' a mine detecting rat. Wonder what he tastes like?” They taste of... er.. Rat! The French like to prepare them in red wine. A classic dish. Removed
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25/09/2020 18:05:56 3 1
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1152 barmcake. How dare you say that, about FRENCH cuisine. It’s white wine in garlic sauce
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25/09/2020 18:06:16 20 3
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Why do people think Sweden is a success? If you look at percentages of population and deaths then Sweden is a disaster
25/09/2020 18:19:14 8 6
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1160. gemjunk Why do people think Sweden is a success? --- Because they're delusional & are clinging to hope
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25/09/2020 18:06:46 9 1
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1112 cdnorth1 BLM! No more stop and search. Fatal consequences today. Virus we need to worry about is woke culture. Suggest you keep your opinions to yourself when you don't know the facts.
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Should the 1922 committee encourage Boris to stand down Up for yes Down for No Removed
25/09/2020 18:15:22 1 1
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1162. Posted by truthful on 4 minutes ago Should the 1922 committee encourage Boris to stand down Up for yes Down for No -- in favour of who to replace him? you can not be stupid enough to think that this hypothetical action would lead to a GE.. its all relative... the mogster might throw his hat in the ring.....
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25/09/2020 18:06:46 6 11
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Surely the focus should be on deaths rather than cases? Covid a very small percentage of daily deaths currently. The Great British public over estimate CV deaths by a factor of 100. That’s a communications misinformation disaster.
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25/09/2020 18:07:26 3 4
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I'm not sure why I was so heavily downvoted for suggesting that teachers should wear face masks when standing at the school gates, when all the kids are filing past them less than 2m away. Could someone explain, please?
25/09/2020 18:12:50 4 1
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@1164 Ordinary Brit teachers should wear face masks when standing at the school gates, when all the kids are filing past them less than 2m away = Well in most cases you need to be within 2m with someone with C19 for more than 15minutes (I think) and that's the sort of scenario that the new NHS App uses before you get an alert. I think that is the criteria most alert systems use
25/09/2020 18:13:41 4 0
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1164.Ordinary Brit I'm not sure why I was so heavily downvoted for suggesting that teachers should wear face masks when standing at the school gates, when all the kids are filing past them less than 2m away. Could someone explain, please? Whatever we do we cannot affect children’s education. They must be protected as much as the frail. Rearranging the deck chairs in Titanic comes to mind.
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25/09/2020 18:07:48 6 11
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No lockdown is needed, let’s just get on with it can’t keep pausing life
vin
25/09/2020 18:01:43 15 9
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Kids are back at school, Covid through the roof again, coincidence? Poor poor government calling all the wrong shots at the wrong time. If these clowns can mess it up they will. Wait for the next crock of #### with a Boris no deal on 31st Dec.
1166
25/09/2020 18:07:58 7 1
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@1153 vin Kids are back at school, Covid through the roof again, coincidence? = Must be. It's certainly not something that Dido Harding could have expected in her job responsible for the test and trace system Apparently (see Private Eye) there are zero health experts on the board in charge of test and trace, who would be aware that a new school term means a lot of new infections
25/09/2020 17:59:12 5 9
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People say how can Chinese people eat cats and dogs, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it
1167
25/09/2020 18:08:18 7 1
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1146 Zpkwdxxk “People say how can Chinese people eat cats and dogs, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it” Quite so. Hypocritical to object to one kind of living thing being killed and eaten whilst chewing on a steak. I await the “Oh but we humanely murder our animals”
25/09/2020 17:46:06 9 6
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Tories as a Serious political party 100% down since the election Fail Fail And More failure
1168
25/09/2020 18:08:58 1 1
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1092. Looking forward to 2024/5?
1169
25/09/2020 18:08:58 4 5
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There are going to be big problems with how the deaths are reported this winter. Given the stat is anyone dying within 28 days of infection we are going to see usual flu deaths being classed as COVID. This will give the government the ultimate excuse to lockdown, push through a no deal Brexit in the background and condition us plebs to be happy with handouts and warehouse jobs in 2021.
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Cases are irrelevant if people aren't dying from it and the vast majority are asymptomatic. Surely in all this time at least half of the nation has contracted the virus by now? Out of 67 million people the victims still wouldn't fill old trafford. You have to be a real special type of person to still think this is a pandemic. Removed
25/09/2020 18:14:11 7 0
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"1170 Oh Hello Cases are irrelevant if people aren't dying from it and the vast majority are asymptomatic. Surely in all this time at least half of the nation has contracted the virus by now?" -- Best estimate is 8% over Uk, maybe 20% in London. Too early in current surge to judge death rate. If it gets back into care homes via young staff...
25/09/2020 18:14:32 5 1
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@1170 You really need to be a real special type of person to think otherwise; A quarter of a million deaths between us and the US. Now it emerges that infections have been rising rapidly in London; However, that is not reflected in the figures because testing resources were diverted to the Nort of England! You really could not make this up....
1171
25/09/2020 18:09:19 9 0
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Bake in a bit if No Deal and Putin, Rees-Mogg, Cummings and US Alt right get us all on a plate ( we also bought the plate)
25/09/2020 17:59:12 5 9
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People say how can Chinese people eat cats and dogs, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it
1172
25/09/2020 18:09:39 4 3
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@1146 "People say how can Chinese people eat cats and dogs, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it" Exactly. Saying what animals others can and can't eat is both racist and speciesist The Cantonese saying is "anything that lives with its back to the sun" and comes from centuries of deprivation and starvation, mostly at the hands of foreign countries Jesus permits this in Mark 7:18-20
25/09/2020 18:19:24 0 1
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@1172. bigmowlay @1146 "People say how can Chinese people eat cats and dogs, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it" Exactly. Saying what animals others can and can't eat is both racist and speciesist Jesus permits this in Mark 7:18-20 I looked this up. I guess Jesus wasn't aware of salmonella and botulism not being medically trained ?
25/09/2020 17:53:29 5 5
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What a total joke. Wales leading the way on local, focussed, R influenced lockdowns. England? London’s every borough an area of concern but let’s not bother with any focussed restrictions but hey in my city of Bath let’s clamp down with 10 pm curfew for the hell of it (despite infections being amongst the lowest in England). You are a complete inept embarrassment Boris.
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25/09/2020 18:10:09 0 1
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"1125 oshis Missing Yarmulke What a total joke. Wales leading the way on local, focussed, R influenced lockdowns. England? London’s every borough an area of concern but let’s not bother with any focussed restrictions but hey ..." -- No: my borough Camden is below avg for England.... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274 but the idea that rules vary across a street is daft - we hang together
“ 1126. Posted by Just call me Harry Just seen a lovely story about 'Magawa' a mine detecting rat. Wonder what he tastes like?” They taste of... er.. Rat! The French like to prepare them in red wine. A classic dish. Removed
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1152. Barmcake “ 1126. Posted by Just call me Harry Just seen a lovely story about 'Magawa' a mine detecting rat. Wonder what he tastes like?” They taste of... er.. Rat! The French like to prepare them in red wine. A classic dish. -- Rat au Vin? But isn't that a rat run over by a van? Removed
1175
25/09/2020 18:10:19 13 4
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What a selfish, mardy society we live in these days. Bulk buying when there's no need because there's no shortage of food! Students whining like children about missing out on social aspect of uni - back in the day uni was about getting an education not bladdered! Saying we've got it bad and how hard it Is - People want to look at what's going on in places like Syria & Africa that's a hard life!
25/09/2020 18:22:05 3 3
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@ 1175. Elouise You do realise that these students you call, will now be goggling the meaning of the word "Mard" or " Bladdered" But hopefully, there will be a small percentage, that are actually serious in their study, and might come up with a cure for Covid, or whatever awful viruses might occur in the future. Dont give up on the young, we created them, they are our future
25/09/2020 18:01:43 8 15
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More people die from alcohol and tobacco abuse yet we don't do anything about that and though not contagious they will both be prevalent well after the virus is eradicated in one form or another
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25/09/2020 18:10:50 1 0
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1151 notgoingout-reprise But we do do something about smoking and drinking. We warn and warn again. And ban smoking in public places. And all the rest. Please don't be silly, not....
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Oh hello Would be a better atmosphere Removed
1178
25/09/2020 18:11:00 11 5
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Sadly the actions of the stupid and selfish minority who are only interested in "socialising" are affecting the majority. Government must get tough on them otherwise there will be a huge price to pay.
25/09/2020 18:36:14 6 3
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@1178 ask1234 "Sadly the actions of the stupid and selfish minority who are only interested in "socialising" are affecting the majority. Government must get tough on them otherwise there will be a huge price to pay." The Tory way let's blame everyone else! Who remembers Bozo, the week before all those folks descended on Bournemouth beach, telling everyone to go back to work?
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25/09/2020 18:11:30 13 4
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I wish this pandemic had hit us before the referendum. The powers that be would have seen what a load of useless thoughtless idiots the majority of the British public are. No way would they have been trusted with a vote on such a complex issue.
1180
25/09/2020 18:11:30 11 3
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First week of Covid 2, and the same denial/hoax rhetoric of the first wave Lets see at Christmas when another 40 -50,000 have died, run out of PPE, another Major Tom, another NHS crowd fund, another lost EU memo, etc
1181
25/09/2020 18:11:30 13 6
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A rise in the R number to 1.5 means cases will rise exponentially. Deaths are rising now with winter is coming, meaning more time indoors for many, with the heating on and windows closed. Sounds like the perfect breeding ground for the virus.
25/09/2020 18:15:42 3 1
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1181. Fatboy 1180. Ian Hubbard Two posts in succession with more integrity, intelligence and insight than the entire cabinet combined. I commend everyone to read both. I would vote either of you into power. Tonight.
1182
25/09/2020 18:11:50 19 2
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More importantly, after 4 months, how's the 'world beating' track and trace going Dido? Last I heard, not too well if you have an old phone.
25/09/2020 18:15:02 2 1
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1182 Why try to trace a phone, but not a person?
1183
25/09/2020 18:12:00 3 14
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The Scientists & Medical Experts want R=ZERO. The Politicians "follow suite" so as not to be seen to make mistakes. Out there is a Real World, with Real People with Jobs + The Economy. The pursuit of perfection will damage more than it cures. .
25/09/2020 18:21:15 7 0
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@1183 Computer Out there is a Real World, with Real People with Jobs + The Economy == I'm guessing that you meant "Real People with Jobs = The Economy" Yes, see some of my posts pointing that this is one of the realities that this Pandemic has proven, and not on those who export all our money to tax havens and use tax avoidance schemes whilst pocketing £millions pa We are the economy
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Should the 1922 committee encourage Boris to stand down Up for yes Down for No The 1922 committee should stand down as well...hapless corrupt Tories! Removed
1185
25/09/2020 18:12:40 1 2
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Epidemiologist talks Covid https://youtu.be/ovf1LMX1EzY
25/09/2020 18:20:44 4 2
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1185. Posted bybobby feton 2 minutes ago Epidemiologist talks Covid https://youtu.be/ovf1LMX1EzY ====== Anything by a virologist instead ? ..... and definitely not on you tube, you know a medical journal or something similar ?
1186
25/09/2020 18:12:40 14 5
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Bring on a general election. It’s time to place a lockdown on Boris Johnson. Indefinitely. He can’t even be trusted - to social distance/wash his hands/not poke at his own face when contracting CV19; to reprimand and make an example of law breaking Cummins; to not speak with forked tongue; to present as anything other than an arrogant power hungry autocratic bum.
25/09/2020 18:22:25 9 10
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1186.Yoshis Bring on a general election. It’s time to place a lockdown on Boris Johnson. Indefinitely. He can’t even be trusted - to social distance/wash his hands/not poke at his own face when contracting CV19; -- its already in the calendar for 2024 not sure any huffing and puffing or stamping your little feet can change that. but if it makes you happy......
25/09/2020 18:07:26 3 4
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I'm not sure why I was so heavily downvoted for suggesting that teachers should wear face masks when standing at the school gates, when all the kids are filing past them less than 2m away. Could someone explain, please?
1187
25/09/2020 18:12:50 4 1
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@1164 Ordinary Brit teachers should wear face masks when standing at the school gates, when all the kids are filing past them less than 2m away = Well in most cases you need to be within 2m with someone with C19 for more than 15minutes (I think) and that's the sort of scenario that the new NHS App uses before you get an alert. I think that is the criteria most alert systems use
25/09/2020 18:22:55 6 3
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@1187. iDominic "Well in most cases you need to be within 2m with someone with C19 for more than 15minutes (I think) and that's the sort of scenario that the new NHS App uses before you get an alert." So if a few 100 kids are going past you over a period of 15 minutes at a distance of about 1m, that's less of a risk, because they're a moving target? I don't think so...
25/09/2020 18:07:26 3 4
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I'm not sure why I was so heavily downvoted for suggesting that teachers should wear face masks when standing at the school gates, when all the kids are filing past them less than 2m away. Could someone explain, please?
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25/09/2020 18:13:41 4 0
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1164.Ordinary Brit I'm not sure why I was so heavily downvoted for suggesting that teachers should wear face masks when standing at the school gates, when all the kids are filing past them less than 2m away. Could someone explain, please? Whatever we do we cannot affect children’s education. They must be protected as much as the frail. Rearranging the deck chairs in Titanic comes to mind.
25/09/2020 18:05:15 8 6
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Simple science and maths. If the R is above one the epidemic is growing below 1 decreasing. How do you get it below 1? Lockdown. Consequently, whatever people and politicians say / think there will be another lockdown. The only thing in doubt is when. Now leave it late and more people die and it goes on for longer. So smart leaders would lockdown NOW!
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25/09/2020 18:13:51 11 13
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1158 A lockdown is absolutely the last thing we need - the needs of the many MUST outweigh the needs of the few, another lockdown would destroy the country, we need to accept that people will die, the average age of COVID deaths 83 life expectancy in U.K. Male - 79 female 81. We are losing the plot and causing far more damage than has yet been realised.
25/09/2020 18:15:52 0 2
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1189 If only there were more like you , simple logical thinking
Cases are irrelevant if people aren't dying from it and the vast majority are asymptomatic. Surely in all this time at least half of the nation has contracted the virus by now? Out of 67 million people the victims still wouldn't fill old trafford. You have to be a real special type of person to still think this is a pandemic. Removed
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25/09/2020 18:14:11 7 0
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"1170 Oh Hello Cases are irrelevant if people aren't dying from it and the vast majority are asymptomatic. Surely in all this time at least half of the nation has contracted the virus by now?" -- Best estimate is 8% over Uk, maybe 20% in London. Too early in current surge to judge death rate. If it gets back into care homes via young staff...
Cases are irrelevant if people aren't dying from it and the vast majority are asymptomatic. Surely in all this time at least half of the nation has contracted the virus by now? Out of 67 million people the victims still wouldn't fill old trafford. You have to be a real special type of person to still think this is a pandemic. Removed
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25/09/2020 18:14:32 5 1
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@1170 You really need to be a real special type of person to think otherwise; A quarter of a million deaths between us and the US. Now it emerges that infections have been rising rapidly in London; However, that is not reflected in the figures because testing resources were diverted to the Nort of England! You really could not make this up....
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25/09/2020 18:14:32 13 0
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Pre 2016 UK was happier and more civilized Post 2019 we are close to Zimbabwe And 1% are licking their lips
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25/09/2020 18:15:02 4 2
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We need a two week complete ‘circuit breaker’ lockdown. Government need to listen to the scientific/medical experts this time or we’ll be in a lockdown which goes on for months.
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25/09/2020 18:15:02 8 1
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The rate wouldn't be going up if people were social distancing properly. It's not difficult, people need to stop being so selfish.
25/09/2020 18:11:50 19 2
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More importantly, after 4 months, how's the 'world beating' track and trace going Dido? Last I heard, not too well if you have an old phone.
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25/09/2020 18:15:02 2 1
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1182 Why try to trace a phone, but not a person?
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mat
25/09/2020 18:15:12 5 3
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What was that Bojo...it will all be over by Christmas?!...Jesus wept...
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25/09/2020 18:15:22 1 1
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1162. Posted by truthful on 4 minutes ago Should the 1922 committee encourage Boris to stand down Up for yes Down for No -- in favour of who to replace him? you can not be stupid enough to think that this hypothetical action would lead to a GE.. its all relative... the mogster might throw his hat in the ring.....
25/09/2020 18:18:44 6 4
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1197. Thegreatpoobar 1162. truthful Should the 1922 committee encourage Boris to stand down -- in favour of who to replace him? *** Jeremy Hunt of course who should have got the job in the first place but the old grey Tory party members who get to choose the leader (remember the country did not vote for Boris but for Brexit) stupidly opted for Boris and now regret it
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25/09/2020 18:15:42 5 6
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Cases have been rising over the past few weeks, and have begun to translate to a rise in hospital admissions. *** Not quite a straight translation. Cases have risen hugely, admissions only marginally. And the admissions are likely rising due to the usual seasonal rise in Autumn and not directly linked to Covid. Bear that in mind ...
25/09/2020 18:25:17 2 2
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1198. Au Revoir Cherie "Cases have been rising over the past few weeks,and have begun to translate to a rise in hospital admissions. ...And the admissions are likely rising due to the usual seasonal rise in Autumn and not directly linked to Covid." I think the situation is covid cases are rising amongst the younger age range, if predictions are correct,could rise amongst elderly through family
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25/09/2020 18:15:42 2 2
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Mostly when I come here on occasion all there is is toxic comment and a general blame game Today one post informed me of something that I had not known before. Thank you Lotus for putting me in the direction of searching the internet for a report that US Intelligence were briefing of a problem in Wuhan in late November.I recommend others to chase up this report and ask questions derived from it
25/09/2020 18:11:30 13 6
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A rise in the R number to 1.5 means cases will rise exponentially. Deaths are rising now with winter is coming, meaning more time indoors for many, with the heating on and windows closed. Sounds like the perfect breeding ground for the virus.
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25/09/2020 18:15:42 3 1
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1181. Fatboy 1180. Ian Hubbard Two posts in succession with more integrity, intelligence and insight than the entire cabinet combined. I commend everyone to read both. I would vote either of you into power. Tonight.