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07/09/2020 10:54:48 87 186
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The Snowflakes are entitled as always
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07/09/2020 12:20:21 2 1
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Blame can be in multiple directions #1 The .Gov firstly for the lack of clarity and dithering #2 the young not really giving toss #3 people just blatantly not caring in wearing masks or socially distancing and this is not young people it's a select few even if you sit on the wall on a for or against masks it's about sticking together and being seen to do everything to combat this man made virus
07/09/2020 12:46:11 10 3
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Step 1 Tell the young that they will never get ill from this disease (not true) and that there is nothing to fear. Step 2 Tell the young that despite #1, they still have to social distance and make sacrifices, it's the rules! Step 3 Let chief government advisor flout rules, and the defend him come what may. Step 4 Scratch head at rising case numbers amongst the young.
07/09/2020 12:53:55 10 7
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1/3 of infections among 20-29 year olds? Not a suprise with those ages making up the bulk of bar and restaurant staff where the Govt have been urging people to congregate the last month and a half.
07/09/2020 17:17:14 17 0
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1 kid at school gets a positive test, the entire year are sent home for a fortnight. If they’re primary school then their parents have to go home too. On zero pay. And their employer can’t cope either with unreliable staff. It’s unsustainable
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07/09/2020 10:55:08 97 40
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It's not just kids, hardly any parents at my daughter's school are wearing masks or keeping apart at pick-up and drop-off and elderly people seem to be on a suicide mission.
07/09/2020 15:16:07 10 5
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2 people died yesterday due to the Virus. How many died because of lockdown? Unicef warns lockdown could kill more than Covid-19 and predicts 1.2 million child deaths. Lockdown is going to destroy Global economy, cause millions of deaths and destroy the future for many people. Last time I heard we had a 99.9% chance of surviving it. Something does not add up; no wonder there's conspiracies.
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07/09/2020 10:55:49 794 80
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The first wave never ended it was only suppressed.
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07/09/2020 11:27:04 4 3
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3. Posted bywhatsishisnameon 29 minutes ago The first wave never ended it was only suppressed. ================ If you pay attention you'll see that it has actually ended. Unless your definition of a pandemic is anything exceeding 10 deaths per day.
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07/09/2020 10:56:09 66 52
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Well they should have expected the Cummings effect when they let him off the hook, can't be having one rule for the President and another for the Hoi-Polloi these days.
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07/09/2020 10:56:09 51 73
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No there not !!!! There doing a Cummings special eye test ????????????????
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07/09/2020 11:20:01 15 3
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5. Alex No there not !!!! There doing a (...) // For chrissakes man - it's "they're", a contraction of "they are". SMH
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07/09/2020 10:56:09 61 169
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Yawn, another non story.
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07/09/2020 10:56:29 64 60
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The young need to take more responsibility. Typical of young people to think only of themselves!
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07/09/2020 11:50:05 46 1
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7 - not all young people are irresponsible. My granddaugher, 16, completed her quarantine when she returned from France to the letter. Unfortunately, to many others believe they do not need to follow the rules. All age groups have a mixture of the good, the bad and the down right ugly. This should be a collective fight against an unseen enemy, alienating one group against another has no merit.
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07/09/2020 10:56:29 120 215
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I don't think pitting the "young" against "the old" is a good idea. We already have huge generational divides in this country and the lockdowns are doing irreparable damage to youngsters education and future job prospects (unemployment will surge in Q4). Surely let them get on with their lives and lock the old pensioners away? They've got gardens and money, what's the issue?
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07/09/2020 10:56:29 234 39
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Oh my goodness! How very surprising! Said no one
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07/09/2020 10:56:29 251 86
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Test ALL students now before term starts, and isolate those infected.
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07/09/2020 11:46:23 7 11
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@ 10. Posted by View from the White Rose County. the problem is that the teenagers and 20 year olds don't give a damn, so testing them and telling them to self isolate just will not work. they need to start growing up fast and start thinking of others, not their selves. I wont say it's a lot of that age group, but most non mask wearers in Tesco's are of that age or East European.Clueless
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07/09/2020 12:27:12 4 2
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@ 10. White Rose Countyon Test ALL students now before term starts,.......... ---- Preferably with A-levels.
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07/09/2020 10:56:29 150 61
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He's absolutely right, just leave your house and head for the shops and town centres and you'll loads of young people not wearing masks or social distancing, as with localised restrictions perhaps bars frequented mainly by younger people should remain closed as well.
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07/09/2020 10:56:39 290 26
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People will return to their natural behaviourals. Simple as that really
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07/09/2020 10:56:59 40 109
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Young people are not breaking rules, do not divert your action to young ones as you have acted very slow on first stage and as second peak is expected you stil have not done anything.
And we're being forced back into our offices because coffee shops are suffering? Removed
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Bob
07/09/2020 11:30:56 12 9
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14 Smelly Fart And we're being forced back into our offices because coffee shops are suffering? ___ Hahaha no.... Shops are run by what the Tories refer to as "peasants" It's their chums from boarding school who own the office blocks that are going to have to settle for a semi-luxury private jet this year. Now watch your tone, get back to work and keep consuming. .
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07/09/2020 12:18:38 15 5
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14. Posted by Smelly Farton "And we're being forced back into our offices because coffee shops are suffering?" errr no? There is no government policy forcing you to do anything of the sort. Even if you do go back, no government policy forces you to buy coffee from a coffee shop. But if it's limitless 100% furlough you want, you're going to be disappointed.
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07/09/2020 10:57:20 36 40
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Young people, gammons in pubs and those generally following Dom Cummings' example. Fixed that one for you.
07/09/2020 18:34:59 16 8
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15 schools in greater Manchester announce covid cases. hundreds of kids told to self isolate for 2 weeks!. Just let this virus run it's course now, it's gone past a joke.
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07/09/2020 10:57:20 73 40
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Young people tend to be in places where social distancing is tough, working in hospitality or living in cramped accommodation, so naturally they’re more likely to be exposed and therefore spread.
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07/09/2020 11:02:12 29 14
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"16. Posted byBoyo 1 minute ago Young people tend to be in places where social distancing is tough, working in hospitality or living in cramped accommodation, so naturally they’re more likely to be exposed and therefore spread." oh yes, and pubs (shoulder to shoulder), and raves, and beaches, and protests
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07/09/2020 10:57:20 54 38
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This Government is always blaming others for their own inadequate handling of this crisis. Hancock, Cummings and others have shown they can't follow rules so what do they expect?
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07/09/2020 10:57:20 54 46
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They're just following Cummings et al's example.
18 Morons who went to Greece for a week came back infected. This is a pattern, repeating itself. People are ignoring the social distancing rules when they get drunk abroad. How did the virus get here to the UK ? Ask yourself, what measures would You take to prevent it coming here from overseas holiday destinations where people mix in big numbers ? Answers on a postcard to.... Removed
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VoR
07/09/2020 10:57:30 62 27
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They are doing it because the government hasn't taken any serious steps to stop them doing it. Gov't, legislate and empower those tasked with preventing gatherings that breach the rules. Then observe the rules yourself so you don't make another embarrassing climbdown (e.g. re fines).
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07/09/2020 10:57:40 206 122
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Far too many selfish people in society along with an out of touch,complacent govt.
07/09/2020 12:45:01 2 1
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20 to 29 year olds are not school kids and unis only really back this week, so not a big factor YET. If the govt has evidence re SD abuse at parties, raves, protests etc driving this, then needs to do more to reg and enforce, softly softly advice from ministers and weak woke police, as last 6m, doesn't work for many. Young also stand to loose freedoms and many jobs if LLD becomes norm.
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07/09/2020 10:57:40 29 26
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Or objectionable, unelected types associated with Boris Johnson. I.e, the self appointed optician, Dominic (s) Cummings
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07/09/2020 10:57:40 47 64
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Scaremongering article number 162. Funny how you keep posting graphics of graphs showing cases rising but only for infected, not death toll. I wonder why?
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jay
07/09/2020 10:57:50 63 103
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Oh the blame game again , fudged numbers and a new excuse each week or reason to blame a certain group....yawn
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07/09/2020 10:57:50 499 67
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As an over 70 who has to look after 3 Grandchildren because their Mum works, I have to say I am very worried. If she gives up work she can't afford the rent so it has to be done. I keep telling them to be careful not to give it to me and my wife.
07/09/2020 16:53:52 3 3
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24. Posted by Tony Pearce As an over 70 who has to look after 3 Grandchildren because their Mum works, I have to say I am very worried. I recommend you keep them in a separate room to yourself. And when they leave air that room.
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07/09/2020 10:57:50 20 23
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Yet going back to work and school is fine.......
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07/09/2020 10:58:30 664 148
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Unfortunately because young people are well known to not be in general as badly affected by covid-19 many are blasé around it. I would like to see the government focus on reminding them again and again that they will take it home to their parents, their grandparents who might not be so fortunate. It needs to be hammered home
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07/09/2020 11:05:14 18 7
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@26 CaptainSlow81 "Hammering home the message" requires support from the media, especially BBC, which the Government doesn't have. There are more public information films on ITV and C4 has StaySafe - all absent from the state broadcaster
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07/09/2020 12:19:11 4 4
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26. CaptainSlow81 Unfortunately because young people are well known to not be in general as badly affected by covid-19 many are blasé around it. I would like to see the government focus on reminding them that they will take it home to their parents, their grandparents who might not be so fortunate" why, can't you communicate with your family yourself? It needs to be hammered home
07/09/2020 13:26:01 6 5
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26 - CaptainSlow81 “... needs to be hammered home”. I agree & it’s worth noting that over recent years there have been several prosecutions within the UK for knowingly infecting sexual partners with serious sexual infections & in my opinion, those who don’t wear face masks when in the public arena should also be prosecuted.
07/09/2020 16:55:28 14 9
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26 - don’t forget, most grandparents to have been killed by covid were because of the governments horrific policy of transferring sick people to care homes. They then have the nerve to tell us to be careful.
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07/09/2020 10:58:30 51 29
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its the ones that think it's OK because they will get it and recover quickly. selfish arrogance of the 20 and 30 somethings, They are also the ones walking around a supermarket with no masks on, because no one should tell them what to do,
So we've ruined the youngsters' education and prospects on the back of a hysterical overreaction to a virus' which leaves vast majority unharmed, and now the public health mafia and the flakes on here want to blame them for spreading it. Disgraceful. I suggest robbed generation take absolutely no notice whatsoever and get on with their lives. Removed
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07/09/2020 10:58:50 11 22
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Governments continuing pointless rules risk complete loss of trust..... the kind of which I'm unsure as to why it hadn't been lost long ago.
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07/09/2020 10:59:00 43 65
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They have had it too good for too long. Generation of tiktokers, ravers and influencers of idleness. Perhaps it is a good time to make military service compulsory? Bit of discipline and manners rather than "it is all about me me me and me and give it to me now....."
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07/09/2020 10:57:11 21 10
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It’s spreading it to the older people is the concern.
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07/09/2020 10:57:11 10 16
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How far are we away from Herd immunity?
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07/09/2020 11:02:32 29 18
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32. shaun How far are we away from Herd immunity? -- About 95% away from it. Or, to put it another way.... We're about 1.5million deaths of over 65's away from herd immunity. Which ever way you look at it, it's the worst option available.
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07/09/2020 11:14:28 10 1
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32 shaun "How far are we away from Herd immunity? " A long way. Herd immunity kicks in when 1-1/Ro of the population is immune through infection or vaccination. Ro (the number of people each case infects with no precautions ) is 3. In the UK we need 68 million*1-1/3 = 45 million. So far ONS reckons we have infected 5 million.
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07/09/2020 10:59:11 91 53
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Is it any wonder? People want to live their lives and have their freedoms, back rather than hiding away
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07/09/2020 10:59:21 22 11
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Definitely nothing to do with "protests", though, right?
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jay
07/09/2020 10:59:21 13 14
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I suppose the old will get the blame next week or extinction rebellion.....
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07/09/2020 10:59:21 58 40
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Young people are trying to live their lives. How many older people would've done exactly the same thing in their younger days? Most of them.
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Bob
07/09/2020 10:59:21 21 15
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Blame the police and authorities. They have the power to fine. They have the power to close outlets that don't follow guidelines but they don't do it.
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07/09/2020 10:59:41 26 14
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The government has been running an advertising campaign to encourage people to go back to work and schools have already re-opened. And now they are wondering why infection rates are increasing?
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07/09/2020 10:59:41 193 115
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Cases have been increasing since the beginning of July (largely as a result of increased testing) however there has been NO increase in either hospital admissions or deaths, both of which have CONTINUED TO FALL! The media don't mention deaths anymore (as there are hardly any) they only focus on cases... More scaremongering!
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07/09/2020 11:13:27 14 6
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@39 "there has been NO increase in either hospital admissions or deaths, both of which have CONTINUED TO FALL!" Excellent point! I guess people in certain quarters will be hoping this changes asap & number of deaths start increasing sharply. Otherwise we're all going to be sitting here with egg in our faces, a knackered economy and huge Government debt. Only short sellers laughing then.
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07/09/2020 10:59:41 26 15
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No good the government keep using the same line because they are not listening. They just don't care about the vulnerable or elderly and frankly nor does the media. They face more risk and more will die because everyone bends over to appease the younger generation with whatever is trending. Telling them everything they want to hear has made them very selfish and self centred.
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07/09/2020 10:59:51 164 61
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Cases are going up because more people are being tested. However, hospital and death rates are tiny compared to a few months ago. Being alive is taking a risk, we don't close all the country's roads down because of an accident on the M3. Let's get some perspective...
07/09/2020 14:32:53 10 4
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41. Posted by Alec Mac Cases are going up because more people are being tested. However, hospital and death rates are tiny compared to a few months ago. Being alive is taking a risk, we don't close all the country's roads down because of an accident on the M3. Let's get some perspective... ////: True, but we DO close the part of the M3 where the accident occurs; ie a local lockdown
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07/09/2020 10:59:51 32 20
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Yes, I saw them at the Lakeside shopping mall last week. Usually in groups, young oik'ish rebellious-looking types who only think about themselves. Of course, the UK being the UK, no enforcement of the rules. Where and how are the fines, legislated for, going to be imposed? The feral-sector of society does what it wants, unchallenged.
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07/09/2020 11:00:11 21 24
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Is there anyone the government hasn't blamed or blamed in advance yet? Ah yes, themselves.
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07/09/2020 11:00:11 23 38
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The Tory blame game in a nutshell. Make a hash of it and get >60,000 Brits killed from their own ineptitude, and then try to pin the blame on someone else. If you buy this tale you are a clown.
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07/09/2020 11:00:21 27 31
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Young people haven't brought us this risk, Dominic Cummings did when he made a complete mockery of the law, which has lead to people to consider covid laws more like "suggestions". The government sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.
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07/09/2020 11:00:21 20 7
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There will be no Xmas this year at this rate!
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07/09/2020 11:03:33 17 12
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@46 - There will be no Xmas this year at this rate! Few care about it now anyway, suspect more will cut back this year. Just consumerism overload no one cares about the message anymore.
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07/09/2020 11:04:33 2 2
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@46 Thank God!
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07/09/2020 11:00:31 34 21
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Yes there's been a big rise in the number of cases but the number of hospitalisations and deaths remains tiny. So what's the problem? We need to learn to live with it. We don't obsessively count the numbers with common colds every day!
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07/09/2020 11:00:31 33 40
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Cummings & co flout the rules Also we all that know that Boris Johnson Takes orders from an unelected buereucrat Skipped most of the COBRA Coronvirus meetings Initially wanted Herd Immunity whatever the cost Failed to protect the NHS with PPE Failed to lock down the nation soon enough Failed at testing Failed at quarantining arrivals Failed at protecting our elderly
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07/09/2020 11:00:41 636 142
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I was in a DIY Superstore at the weekend, and the amount of people coming in not wearing masks. Whole families. It's more than annoying, it's criminal.
07/09/2020 14:31:02 8 4
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49. Den I was in a DIY Superstore at the weekend, and the amount of people coming in not wearing masks. Whole families. It's more than annoying, it's criminal. --- It's not though, is it? And that's the problem. None of the recommendations from this weak and wobbly government are enforceable, so there is no way to punish the idiots. Make it a criminal offence and it won't be a problem.
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07/09/2020 11:00:41 30 19
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Some young people will be breaking the rules. Some elderly, some middle aged too. Likewise some young people will be abiding by them. Whilst appalled at the behaviour of some, I don't like this lazy narrative of blaming 'the young' for any rise. Especially from the bunch of incompetents 'in charge'.
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07/09/2020 11:03:03 235 69
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50. Posted byelphieon Just now Whilst appalled at the behaviour of some, I don't like this lazy narrative of blaming 'the young' for any rise. Especially from the bunch of incompetents 'in charge'. Look at the age profile of the new cases, its clear that the younger generation are the cause of the spike, not lazy narrative, just fact
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07/09/2020 11:00:52 22 11
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Supermarkets have socially distanced queues but, once inside it's just how it was pre covid. Unless we have proper enforcement of the distancing, some people are always going to ignore it. All of the kids are mixing at school, college and uni now. I doubt there are socially distanced classes, so they will be prime to catch/ spread it. Do they really think we can avoid the second wave?
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07/09/2020 11:01:12 23 15
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Would you have listened as a teenager, if from the very begininng you were told it wouldn't affect you, bar a mild sneeze! Nope thought not!
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07/09/2020 11:06:44 13 8
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"52. Posted byMiss Jones 1 minute ago Would you have listened as a teenager, if from the very begininng you were told it wouldn't affect you, bar a mild sneeze! Nope thought not!" they were also told that they would take it back and kill their grandparents, would they listen to that? "Nope thought not!"
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07/09/2020 11:01:12 992 96
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Saw a mother with her child in a supermarket the other day, child dutifully using hand sanitiser while mother looked on impatiently. This isn't old v. young, it's stupid and antisocial versus informed and responsible.
07/09/2020 15:37:08 8 5
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53. Posted by OccamsMallet Saw a mother with her child in a supermarket the other day, ======================= OMG Hold the front page!!! WHOA you saw a mother with her child doing shopping. Still. At least your eyesight is fine...
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tc
07/09/2020 11:01:12 13 6
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Maybe the BBC might ask a number of 'young' people from across the country their views on this matter.
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07/09/2020 11:01:12 16 17
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The government lost all credibility some time ago That's the biggest issue. Very few are listening to them anymore
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07/09/2020 11:01:22 16 6
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It’s coming again whatever happens
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07/09/2020 11:01:22 5 7
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There’s one for the conspiracy theorists: a word-wide plot by the young to reduce the aged population. Can help but think: which age group has been responsible for ensuring the young instilled with the right values?!
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jay
07/09/2020 11:01:32 24 29
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Can’t wait for flu season..... Uk a nation of hypochondriacs ???????? get busy living or get busy dying
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07/09/2020 11:01:32 27 11
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I think it would be useful if more venues opened. There is too much cancel culture, in some part fuelled by furlough, which leads to illegal events be they raves or weddings. Better to have things at 25-50% capacity and monitored than completely closed
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07/09/2020 11:01:52 28 18
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We should stop demonising the young, who are largely as blameless as everyone else. Shops are open, pubs are open, parents will be fined if they don't send their children back to school and workers are being forced back into trains and tubes and offices. It's ridiculous to suggest the giant leap in cases is due to a few houseparties and outdoor raves.
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07/09/2020 10:56:52 18 27
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Who can we blame next for our botched planning and handling of Covid19? Oh yes! Young people.
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07/09/2020 11:01:52 33 23
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Yesterday there were two deaths in the UK from Covid-19. The day before that there were two. The day before that there were none. The day before that there were two. There are about 65million people in the UK.
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07/09/2020 11:03:43 14 13
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62 And on an average day there are approx 1500 deaths in England...
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07/09/2020 11:02:02 225 94
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Its raves, holidays, socialising and meeting with friends causing this, not going back to school/office
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07/09/2020 12:20:29 6 5
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@63. BrianR Its raves, holidays, socialising and meeting with friends causing this, not going back to school/office' - Maybe the Government shouldn't have encourage socialising with the 'Eat out to help out' and allowed holidays abroad without a functional test and trace/quarantine system in place. Also, there's no evidence that going back to school/office hasn't contributed to the rise.
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07/09/2020 10:57:20 73 40
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Young people tend to be in places where social distancing is tough, working in hospitality or living in cramped accommodation, so naturally they’re more likely to be exposed and therefore spread.
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07/09/2020 11:02:12 29 14
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"16. Posted byBoyo 1 minute ago Young people tend to be in places where social distancing is tough, working in hospitality or living in cramped accommodation, so naturally they’re more likely to be exposed and therefore spread." oh yes, and pubs (shoulder to shoulder), and raves, and beaches, and protests
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07/09/2020 11:02:12 34 13
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It’s all about risk perception. When you’re young, you don’t think so much about what might happen. The older you get, the more you avoid risk. If you’re young, fit and healthy and catch this dreadful disease, you might not be at risk, but others will be if you pass it on unknowingly. Just wear a mask and keep your distance. Is it too much to ask?
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07/09/2020 11:02:22 38 71
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Our moral compass is set by the government. Government advisers ignore the rules, Tories ignore them in their get togethers, and so on. Blame yourself, not the productive part of the population
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07/09/2020 11:04:53 16 5
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@66. Utter rubbish. Are you so robotic and incapable of rational thought that you need to have your moral compass set by those other than yourself? Go look in a mirror and ask yourself the question.
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07/09/2020 11:06:44 251 22
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@66. Posted by 58 percent did not vote for liar BoJo Our moral compass is set by the government. -- Yours maybe but the rest of us have a sense of personal responsibility. Only children blame others for their own actions.
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07/09/2020 11:02:32 18 32
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The Cummings effect in full force. I don't blame young people at all when the elite break the rules. Every man for themselves now.
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07/09/2020 11:05:44 52 16
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67. Boyatthood - really? One man broke the rules months ago - very silly I admit and you and others here now decide that every single person who breaks the rules because of Cummings? I am not sure who is more stupid if that is the case - you or them! It just about sums up the brains on the left of this Country - negligible!
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07/09/2020 10:57:11 10 16
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How far are we away from Herd immunity?
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07/09/2020 11:02:32 29 18
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32. shaun How far are we away from Herd immunity? -- About 95% away from it. Or, to put it another way.... We're about 1.5million deaths of over 65's away from herd immunity. Which ever way you look at it, it's the worst option available.
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07/09/2020 11:09:15 11 7
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68. Gezza We're about 1.5million deaths of over 65's away from herd immunity. Which ever way you look at it, it's the worst option available. Were it to cause 1.5m deaths, it would be the worst option, but if the disease spreads amongst healthy youths and older people continue to socially distance until a vaccine is available, deaths will be limited and herd immunity will be achieved.
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07/09/2020 11:02:42 33 18
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The message is 'wear a face covering and you're all okay'. Face coverings are not a proven barrier. False confidence.
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07/09/2020 11:21:51 47 6
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"69. Posted by6060 842 14 minutes ago The message is 'wear a face covering and you're all okay'." no the message was wear a face covering to protect others, god help us from you types
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07/09/2020 11:02:52 14 30
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Government pointing the finger elsewhere as always! It must be young people being disrespectful, not the fact that they overwhelmingly work in low paid jobs that are most at risk e.g. hospitality, supermarkets, arts etc. Just keep telling everyone to get back to work...
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07/09/2020 11:08:15 23 8
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70 Warwick - younger people do not overwhelmingly work in low paid jobs, about half now go to university. It is their desire for social life that is the problem, where they will not socially distance, then they can go to a supermarket and push into an older person who has gone in for essential food shopping.
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07/09/2020 11:03:03 18 27
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Bit of an assumption that these particular young people were breaking rules, just because you get covid19 doesn't mean you did anything wrong or were negligent, maybe a so called responsible adult gave it to them? Show me evidence of wrong doing by the infected young and not anecdotes of someone somewhere "you reckon"
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Bob
07/09/2020 11:03:03 2 2
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Makes a mockery of the weekly surveillance data. Unchanged and around 2k cases per day. Only to then get testing data that shows more than 2k cases and that's just those who got tested and the idea of surveillance is to identify who isn't being tested.
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07/09/2020 11:00:41 30 19
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Some young people will be breaking the rules. Some elderly, some middle aged too. Likewise some young people will be abiding by them. Whilst appalled at the behaviour of some, I don't like this lazy narrative of blaming 'the young' for any rise. Especially from the bunch of incompetents 'in charge'.
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07/09/2020 11:03:03 235 69
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50. Posted byelphieon Just now Whilst appalled at the behaviour of some, I don't like this lazy narrative of blaming 'the young' for any rise. Especially from the bunch of incompetents 'in charge'. Look at the age profile of the new cases, its clear that the younger generation are the cause of the spike, not lazy narrative, just fact
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07/09/2020 11:12:37 3 7
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73 whatever So if a young person say gets harmed by an adult its that young persons fault because they're the victim? Just because someone gets a disease doesn't mean they were responsible, why can't it have been a dirty dribbling "i ain't wearing no mask" adult that infected these young? Victim blaming at its finest, next time you catch something confess your wrong doing to all criminal.
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07/09/2020 11:03:13 26 10
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Look at Spains graph of infections to deaths - they started to spike 3 weeks ago with infections and over this weekend the deaths have started to follow. End of September here for the same thing to happen. Joy of joys.
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07/09/2020 11:03:13 792 141
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If this virus killed more young people than old, and the older generation ignored the rules, I would hate to think the abuse they would receive.
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07/09/2020 11:30:56 12 4
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@75. Roy wx If this virus killed more young people than old, and the older generation ignored the rules, I would hate to think the abuse they would receive. Spot on! It would be 'Oh those selfish boomers' all over again.
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07/09/2020 11:35:58 14 0
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75. Posted by Roy wx Top comment - I'd never wish harm on anyone but something seriously needs to be done. The police (most forces) don't take corrective, enforceable action but prefer to "bend the knee" yet again.
07/09/2020 16:28:38 2 1
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@75 If this virus killed more young people than old, and the older generation ignored the rules, I would hate to think the abuse they would receive. __ Are you suggesting that the older generation is currently sitting back and merely tutting at the younger generation they feel is ignoring rules?
07/09/2020 17:25:01 6 2
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@75 That's already happening, but not by a virus, the gig economy & housing market are destroying the hopes of a young generation.
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the young are deliberately bringing covid home to kill there "rents" and lay hands on the house Removed
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07/09/2020 11:03:23 418 74
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Re : 37 "Blame the police and authorities." Yes, absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the young people flouting the rules, why should they accept any responsibility for their actions ? Maybe they'll change when they cause the deaths of their parents / grandparents, but I doubt it - too selfish by half. Hard to police when a couple of officers are facing down hundreds of morons.
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07/09/2020 11:03:23 187 40
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There was a house party in my street. Obvious flouting of lockdown rules. Judging by the number of cars way more than 30 in attendance. Reported to local constabulary who did .......NOTHING.
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07/09/2020 11:03:33 184 24
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The most likely way to catch this disease remains close contact for a prolonged time with someone else who has it. Older people seem to be continuing to socially distance where possible, some younger people do not and so are more likely to catch it. The danger comes when these people then mix with their older more vulnerable relatives. Vaccine can't come soon enough.
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07/09/2020 11:00:21 20 7
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There will be no Xmas this year at this rate!
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07/09/2020 11:03:33 17 12
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@46 - There will be no Xmas this year at this rate! Few care about it now anyway, suspect more will cut back this year. Just consumerism overload no one cares about the message anymore.
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07/09/2020 11:03:43 18 18
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Get Set Ready for 2nd Lock Down as yesterday almost 3k cases reached.
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07/09/2020 11:01:52 33 23
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Yesterday there were two deaths in the UK from Covid-19. The day before that there were two. The day before that there were none. The day before that there were two. There are about 65million people in the UK.
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07/09/2020 11:03:43 14 13
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62 And on an average day there are approx 1500 deaths in England...
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07/09/2020 11:04:23 7 8
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I'm not even sure that MP's understand these rules. But the bottom line is simple. This virus does not only kill the old. This virus can only be spread by contact with the nasal discharges of an infected person. These discharges can spread much further than any government guideline distances. Avoid the discharges and you avoid the bug. Simples!
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07/09/2020 11:04:23 36 4
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Epidemic curves are elastic. Lockdown "flattens the curve". Reducing the infection rate stretches the curve over a longer time and reduces the height of the peak. Unfortunately, as soon as you relax, the curve tries to spring back to its original shape.
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07/09/2020 11:04:23 8 9
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I wish they would make up their minds at who is supposed to be at risk. Force millions of children back to school now say the young are at risk? Is the second wave because of the weather ,even though colder Countries reported the same figures as warmer countries very odd. However the figures are all now in question. Why the difference in wording,coronavirus is a cold covid 19 is the virus ?
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07/09/2020 11:04:23 20 12
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I must admit I can't even remember what the rules are any more it keeps changing.
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07/09/2020 11:00:21 20 7
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There will be no Xmas this year at this rate!
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07/09/2020 11:04:33 2 2
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@46 Thank God!
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07/09/2020 11:04:43 495 61
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Young people are far more likely to be working in low paid customer facing jobs than other demographics eg. Shops, restaurants, cleaners, manual workers. It's easy to say that it's their fault and imply it's because they're partying, but the fact is that you're more likely to catch it if you're 21, work in Costa and live in a house share than if you're 41 and work remotely on your laptop.
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07/09/2020 11:04:53 28 17
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Can we just move on from this now? It is getting very boring. Of course there are more cases - we're out and about more and we're testing more. But here's the thing - I bet most people who test positive don't even know they've got it. Only a small percentage of those infected get ill and a tiny percentage of those will die. Time to get a sense of proportion and stop flogging this dead horse
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07/09/2020 11:00:53 39 9
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What do they expect?! Open the pubs and bars, to let the youngsters prop up the economy, at the risk of increasing transmissions!
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07/09/2020 11:04:53 14 17
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Hancock's maths suspect again. If only 1/3 of new cases are 20 to 29 the majority 2/3rds arent.
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07/09/2020 11:09:56 19 2
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"91. Posted bynookiebear 2 minutes ago Hancock's maths suspect again. If only 1/3 of new cases are 20 to 29 the majority 2/3rds arent." and 1/3 is over a 9 year age spread, 2/3rds are over a vastly larger age range. Go back to your maths class
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07/09/2020 11:02:22 38 71
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Our moral compass is set by the government. Government advisers ignore the rules, Tories ignore them in their get togethers, and so on. Blame yourself, not the productive part of the population
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07/09/2020 11:04:53 16 5
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@66. Utter rubbish. Are you so robotic and incapable of rational thought that you need to have your moral compass set by those other than yourself? Go look in a mirror and ask yourself the question.
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07/09/2020 11:05:03 91 18
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If you're in your teens and twenties you definitely think you're immortal and lack self awareness. It's understandable though not inexcusable.
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07/09/2020 10:58:30 664 148
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Unfortunately because young people are well known to not be in general as badly affected by covid-19 many are blasé around it. I would like to see the government focus on reminding them again and again that they will take it home to their parents, their grandparents who might not be so fortunate. It needs to be hammered home
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07/09/2020 11:05:14 18 7
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@26 CaptainSlow81 "Hammering home the message" requires support from the media, especially BBC, which the Government doesn't have. There are more public information films on ITV and C4 has StaySafe - all absent from the state broadcaster
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07/09/2020 11:05:14 43 17
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Well the sensible ones knew this was coming And now the wreckless actions of the stupid will now affect us all Well done ??
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07/09/2020 11:05:34 21 15
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Government: young people need to get back to school, get back to the office, get to the shops and start spending go down to the pub to support business Also Government: young people need to stop mixing and spreading the disease.
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07/09/2020 11:02:32 18 32
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The Cummings effect in full force. I don't blame young people at all when the elite break the rules. Every man for themselves now.
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07/09/2020 11:05:44 52 16
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67. Boyatthood - really? One man broke the rules months ago - very silly I admit and you and others here now decide that every single person who breaks the rules because of Cummings? I am not sure who is more stupid if that is the case - you or them! It just about sums up the brains on the left of this Country - negligible!
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07/09/2020 11:11:57 3 10
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"97. Posted by Flipper 58 on Just now 67. Boyatthood - really? One man broke the rules months ago - very silly I admit and you and others here now decide that every single person who breaks the rules because of Cummings? I am not sure who is more stupid if that is the case - you or them! " It's called leading by example..... Leadership seems to have gone walkies, so no one cares.
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07/09/2020 11:05:44 18 16
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It is blindingly obvious that significant cohorts cannot, or will not, obey social distancing rules at any venue designed for social interaction. The strategy, therefore, must be to deny them the opportunity by closing pubs, clubs, cinemas, spectator venues, etc BEFORE a second wave. But I suspect this inept government will fail to learn from previous failures & act after it has hit us.
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07/09/2020 11:06:04 13 10
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In Greece its a 500 euro fine for not wearing a face mask in Crete where there is a stringent lockdown till 15 September. Catch the idiots and hit them in their wallet should stop the rise dead
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07/09/2020 11:06:14 21 14
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Shut the bars and pubs. Social distancing impossible after a few drinks. People saying there are few deaths over the last month must have short memories.Six months ago?