Coronavirus: Young people breaking rules risk ‘second wave’
07/09/2020 | news | other | 3,154
The health secretary says new coronavirus spikes in France and Spain started with young people.
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07/09/2020 12:04:41 18 10
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Selfish, arrogant, entitled... Let's hope their careless actions affect their friends and family first.
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07/09/2020 12:10:55 14 46
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651. Posted bySocialist laughing stockon Just now Selfish, arrogant, entitled... Let's hope their careless actions affect their friends and family first. -- Highly unlikely. They might, however, affect elderly and overweight boomers with underlying, possibly alcohol-related, health conditions. As long as our NHS isn't overwhelmed, is welcome this karma. Carry on, youngsters.
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07/09/2020 12:18:38 9 6
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701. Posted by Seneca Most 'Boomers' I know are fit and relatively healthy. It's the obese, burger munching 'yoof' that should wotchit!!!
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07/09/2020 12:11:05 10 5
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I don't think we can expect any kind of 'normal' life without a vaccine - and even though it now looks like several candidates are viable and safe, patients likely won't be getting them before 2021. Not sure what's worse - Christmas totally cancelled and everyone behind their doors, or social distancing abandoned for a 'normal' Christmas with results similar to April. Both are grim prospects.
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07/09/2020 12:11:05 10 4
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I'm waiting for the Hospital Admissions to rise,I cannot believe the amount of new positive people.I wonder if the test is picking up antibodies or the virus.
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07/09/2020 12:11:25 3 7
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Go kids! Get Crunk if you want to bruh!
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07/09/2020 12:11:25 11 4
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To have a second wave you need to finish the first one don't you
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07/09/2020 12:11:25 11 1
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Loads of new positive tests but have any of them even got any symptoms let alone requiring hospital treatment.
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07/09/2020 12:10:35 79 15
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Only two generations ago people were asked to sacrifice their lives for their country. And of course, they did so. Our generation are being asked to be mindful of others, keep a short distance away from people and generally have some respect. I'll never understand why they can't/won't.
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07/09/2020 12:10:35 10 3
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I thought the rules weren't really rules and we could "follow our instincts"? After all you can travel the length of the country, stay at someone elses house, travel to a beauty spot on your wifes birthday during the height of lockdown WITH THE VIRUS.
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07/09/2020 12:11:35 11 0
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What an indictment of our education system this HYS is. I'll tell you what should be mandatory, every single person should be able to pass a basic science test. If not then they're should be mandatory free online classes for those people so we can chat all the anti science rhetoric from people who think chalk dissolves in water and who think the earth is flat.
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07/09/2020 12:36:26 11 1
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@709 Bryan Ross '...every single person should be able to pass a basic science test. If not then they're should be mandatory free online classes for those people so we can chat all the anti science rhetoric from people...' Perhaps a basic English test first?
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07/09/2020 12:11:35 13 9
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What a shower this government are, treating everyone like a bunch of village idiots. Anyone with half a brain knew this would happen two months ago, when they started to ease lockdown purely for financial reasons? If Johnson and spit out your Dummy Cummy treated people with a little more respect they might find its a 2 way process. Sadly its not in their DNA.
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07/09/2020 12:11:35 9 2
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Kids should be in school and people should get back to work say the government and people no longer in work. You're responsible for spreading covid say the same people the following week.
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07/09/2020 11:39:40 12 16
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Why should young people care about the selfish boomer generation who have left them a raped planet, a lifetime of debt and the impossibility of ever owning the most basic human necessity - their own home?
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07/09/2020 12:11:45 7 9
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412 Owley - "Why should young people care about selfish boomers who have left a raped planet, a lifetime of debt and the impossibility of ever owning the most basic human necessity - their own home?" I can accept the raped planet, but a lifetime of debt! - cancel Ebay/Amazon stop buying 'things' that end up as waste. Lack of Own home? who do you think will eventually get this palace of mine?
712. Posted by tony Lack of Own home? who do you think will eventually get this palace of mine? --- Most people don't actually want to wait for their parents to die to have their own home. 'Yay! Got my first home, shame I'm 72!' Removed
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07/09/2020 12:06:43 10 18
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Get busy living or get busy dying Andy dufrane circa 1993 Can’t wait for gov to try another lockdown ???? think you just may see more on the streets complaining than you think People are tired of this gov and there double standards
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07/09/2020 12:11:45 9 1
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Re670 jayon Just now Get busy living or get busy dying Andy dufrane circa 1993 Can’t wait for gov to try another lockdown ???? think you just may see more on the streets complaining than you think People are tired of this gov and there double standards. ~ They should of got off their bums and voted then in the election instead of moaning...
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07/09/2020 12:11:55 8 8
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The fact that you can go shopping and not be forced to wear a face covering is ridiculous. This is one of the main problems. Police need to start fining these people.Been weeks since I even seen an officer. Every shop has more people not Following advice than following it, Young, old and inbetween!
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07/09/2020 12:14:16 6 5
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714. Posted bypique blinderon The fact that you can go shopping and not be forced to wear a face covering is ridiculous. This is one of the main problems. Police need to start fining these people.Been weeks since I even seen an officer. Every shop has more people not Following advice than following it, Young, old and inbetween! Where do you shop! In the beautiful South we all wear masks.
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07/09/2020 12:12:05 7 11
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You could test all sixty odd million in the country but if they adopt the same untouchable attitude of our cabinet it makes no difference.
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07/09/2020 12:12:15 26 1
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And you have to do is look at the comments on here to see part of the problem, lack of respect between all. It’s dead simple - we all just have to follow some rules, regardless of age, save name calling energy for calling out, naming and shaming the idiots that don’t; that includes the venues that are lax themselves about applying the rules - feet vote. That’s it - blaming others solves nowt
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07/09/2020 12:12:25 12 4
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I think we're past the 'listening to the experts' now. Someone please explain the hidden agenda here as I'm at a loss to see the reasoning behind many decisions. Send children back to school yet let civil servants play hookie until they decide they want to join in? Increase testing in high risk areas where the results will obviously be horrendous and result in further measures? HELLLLP !
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07/09/2020 12:12:35 98 4
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As a London Bus driver I get to see a large demographic of people moving around to get to work or social events. In last 3 months many more younger people have been wearing masks on my bus than older ones - and older people tend to take their mask off once they get on. b+e minorities much worse at following mask rules. However driving past pubs i see large groups of all age flouting rules
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07/09/2020 12:22:30 4 2
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718. FootballGURU However driving past pubs i see large groups of all age flouting rules - You would do, they're outside as well as eating and drinking and that is within guidelines. Hopefully those at risk and those sheltering people have taken the decision to stay away, or not as is their choice.
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07/09/2020 12:13:06 11 6
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It is depressing, the number of folks my age and older on here who appear not to be able to remember what they were like in their teens and twenties!
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07/09/2020 12:13:06 5 6
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Are we supposed to ignore the 1922 committee who were photographed ignoring social distancing? Do as we say not as we do. Vile crowd
Usual anti youth guff from entitled old farts. Removed
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07/09/2020 12:13:26 2 5
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@. Castawaypaul - I thumbed down your post and many others by accident while scrolling down. Its surprisingly easy to do!
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07/09/2020 12:03:41 11 12
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@579 The UK is Bust 'as much chance of being knocked down by a bus as there is of dying from this flu strain.' With or without lockdown?
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07/09/2020 12:13:26 4 2
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646 BBBallson "@579 The UK is Bust 'as much chance of being knocked down by a bus as there is of dying from this flu strain.' With or without lockdown?" I have a feeling that "The UK is Bust" is still struggling to understand what the old Head and Shoulders and Clearasil adverts were on about. Just why were those people with no dandruff using an anti dandruff shampoo????
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07/09/2020 12:13:26 9 19
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I really can't understand why COVID is even still being mentioned in the News. It's a has been that never was. People who were close to death with multiple heath issues were going to die imminently anyway. Move on.
I reckon this virus was meant to be a lot worse with a lot more deaths and nature has somehow messed it up for the people that planned this. I reckon nature has intervened like it does often We have all the infastructure, drama and control in place like its been planned for years but the only thing missing is the dead people.. So now people are looking and questioning and waking Removed
good news - the young are helping by building up the herd immunity this is ok as the young seems to be generally ok let them live their lives - the next china virus might be the other way around and the old will be the ones out cavorting while the young shield Removed
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07/09/2020 12:11:45 7 9
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412 Owley - "Why should young people care about selfish boomers who have left a raped planet, a lifetime of debt and the impossibility of ever owning the most basic human necessity - their own home?" I can accept the raped planet, but a lifetime of debt! - cancel Ebay/Amazon stop buying 'things' that end up as waste. Lack of Own home? who do you think will eventually get this palace of mine?
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712. Posted by tony Lack of Own home? who do you think will eventually get this palace of mine? --- Most people don't actually want to wait for their parents to die to have their own home. 'Yay! Got my first home, shame I'm 72!' Removed
Some loons the other day berating a disabled person in a store for not wearing a mask. They were huddled round him breaking the social distancing rules whilst swearing, but they were wearing face coverings, so that's OK Nazis. Hiding behind their masks. Behaving like monsters It only took one brave, kind adult to step in and shut them up Be the kind adult Smile at your neighbour Removed
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07/09/2020 12:13:46 11 13
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It's worth considering that the younger generations have little to live for in this trainwreck of a country that the older generations have left them struggling to survive in. Take away their jobs and social lives, and soon cities are in flames, as we've seen in the US.
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07/09/2020 12:13:56 5 3
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They don’t give a gnats chuff.
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07/09/2020 12:08:34 5 11
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@634 Fantastic response - trotting out the government line has convinced me. I'm laughing at you. Do your own research. Look at the 40 years of reports that say MASKS DO NOT STOP VIRUSES. Then ask yourself why governments would ignore that research and now instead quote the WHO who admitted on camera that they were under political pressure to approve masks. Use your intelligence.
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07/09/2020 12:14:06 10 7
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@679 "Do your own research. Look at the 40 years of reports that say MASKS DO NOT STOP VIRUSES." And yet...every country in the world is wearing masks....
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07/09/2020 12:19:09 6 4
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@731 it’s a placebo. How many hospitalisations are there? How many deaths are there? How many have symptoms (true cases)? What is the threshold for a positive test? How many steps in the PCR are there to get to the threshold? Finally, tap water can give a positive result as can various fruits and vegetables!
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07/09/2020 12:20:29 5 2
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@731 Eythe. You are wrong there Edythe. Not every country has made masks mandatory indoors. Spain has and France has and the UK has.......yep clearly looks like they're working. On the contrary several countries have no mandated them and actually strongly discouraged their use. You will find that these countries are doing very well with minimal increase in cases.
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07/09/2020 12:14:06 7 13
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Well we said this would happen. Try working in a school, it is terrifying.
Old people YOUR lives are over Your just coffin dodging now Young people GET ON WITH IT Lots of houses coming up for sale soon Lots of jobs to step into soon COVID-19 like the Black Death will weed out the weak It’s totally natural Removed
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07/09/2020 12:14:16 8 13
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The UK relfrighteously scorned Spain and France a couple if weeks back. I predicted then we'd catch up with them in 3 weeks. I was right.
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07/09/2020 12:14:16 16 30
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Why blame the young? It is quite clear who is to blame - the government. They are the ones who make the rules, they are the ones that enforce the rules, or NOT. One thing is for sure I will never ever vote for these idiots again, they have consistently got things wrong and shout so very quick to blame anyone but themselves.
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07/09/2020 12:15:47 1 3
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@735 oretep GROW UP!!
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07/09/2020 12:19:19 9 1
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735 oretep Surely blame lies with whoever is helping to spread the virus and as the average age of patients in most countries has plummeted, it’s not an unfair conclusion to draw. The governments of most countries have been criticised but nobody is sure of the correct way of coping with such a pandemic. There are no easy answers. More emphasis should be placed on individual responsibility.
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07/09/2020 12:21:20 47 7
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735. Posted byoretepon Why blame the young? It is quite clear who is to blame - the government. They are the ones who make the rules, they are the ones that enforce the rules, or NOT. What happened to common sense? Making your own decisions? do you really need the Gov to tell you to wear a mask or can't you judge the risk for yourself ie, is a situation safe and decide a mask is needed.
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07/09/2020 12:11:55 8 8
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The fact that you can go shopping and not be forced to wear a face covering is ridiculous. This is one of the main problems. Police need to start fining these people.Been weeks since I even seen an officer. Every shop has more people not Following advice than following it, Young, old and inbetween!
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07/09/2020 12:14:16 6 5
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714. Posted bypique blinderon The fact that you can go shopping and not be forced to wear a face covering is ridiculous. This is one of the main problems. Police need to start fining these people.Been weeks since I even seen an officer. Every shop has more people not Following advice than following it, Young, old and inbetween! Where do you shop! In the beautiful South we all wear masks.
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07/09/2020 12:14:16 9 11
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The Tories are taking so long to sort the testing out. Anybody would think that they were squabbling over the profits again.
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07/09/2020 12:16:17 9 11
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#737 Herd immunity via the back door. Pretend you're tracing and testing when the reality is, you're deliberately allowing a spread among the population. The right always lack the courage of their convictions and this is another example. They're too afraid to fess up to what they're doing.
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07/09/2020 12:20:09 7 3
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737. Harry Lime The Tories are taking so long to sort the testing out. Anybody would think that they were squabbling over the profits again. == Testing for the most part is provided by private companies, with an obligation to shareholders. Created by ideology? Incompetent leader (Dido Harding)? Political nepotism?
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07/09/2020 12:20:39 8 4
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737. Posted by Harry Lime on 1 minute ago The Tories are taking so long to sort the testing out. Anybody would think that they were squabbling over the profits again. You mean doing the most tests of any European country?over 17m and 5m more than the next (Germany).Worldwide only China USA Russia and India have tested more.Anyone would think you didn’t know what you’re talking about.
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07/09/2020 12:14:57 6 8
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What the heck did they expect? Sending kids back, to school, teenagers back to college and older young people back to university; and all this on top of many selfish, irresponsible young men organising illegal house parties and raves!
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07/09/2020 12:14:57 8 5
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Perhaps all these young people were just checking their eye sight?
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07/09/2020 12:15:07 11 4
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As covid is a very mild infection in the vast majority of cases - and there have been no fatalities at all in this age bracket amongst healthy kids - it is probably not a bad idea to build up immunity before winter. Oh, sorry, this is the 21st century version of 'Don't you know there is a war on?' - without the Spitfire pilots unfortunately.
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07/09/2020 12:15:17 12 1
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It would be possible to stop all COVID-19 deaths in the U.K.. The cost is not acceptable to most.Idiotic comments like China stopped it seem to ignore the reality of people with welded doors to their flat blocks and shot for breaking curfews.Food delivery being cabbages and other veg thrown through windows by soldiers to people with no income stream or social payments.
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07/09/2020 11:38:29 18 11
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This week it’s the 20-29 age group, next week it will be teenagers and so in a few weeks they will be blaming pre-school children for their selfishness. I’m sick of this Govt continually ducking responsibility for management of response to the pandemic, giving mixed messaging and then blaming the general population.
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07/09/2020 12:15:17 3 2
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398. Posted by EmmaH on Just now This week it’s the 20-29 age group _____ Those damned statistics. What exactly is your pointedly anti-government rant supposed to prove that the facts don't?
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07/09/2020 12:15:27 9 0
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The focus on mask now seems misguided, the best defence was and still is to distance and wash hands, mask wearing helps bit, but its not the magic bullet some seem to think. Its led to false sense of security IMHO and an undermining of what are the most important personal measures to take.
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07/09/2020 12:15:27 7 2
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"The UK could see a second spike in coronavirus cases if young people don't follow social distancing rules, the health secretary says." I'd urge Matt to issue the same warning to: MPs Mayors Dominic Whitty Himself Prince Charles Boris ...all of whom clearly flouted the ruddy orders in some way or another.
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07/09/2020 12:15:27 3 1
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If only they had brains............ Mummy he's calling me names!
07/09/2020 14:27:40 6 15
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@745 oregano In our corner shop few wear masks. Last week, I waited for one such imbecile (approx 50 yrs) to move then walked on He proceeded to double back, stood next to me, stared at the shelf and started whistling in my face. I was being mocked for wearing a mask. I am clinically extremely vulnerable. ~~~ Stay at home then. Not hard.
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07/09/2020 12:15:47 8 2
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"Rules are generally made by fools for idiots to follow ", someone once said. True to a large extent I think. The problem here is if you haven't got the public behind you it simply doesn't work. The Gov't cocked it all up over the Cummings affair. Young people of 18 are generally unconcerned about getting, for them, no more than a bad cold. At that age you think your invincible. Remember?
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07/09/2020 12:15:47 11 4
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Hancock is a joke, him & cronies telling people to get to city centre offices on one hand, saying young people breaking rules on other. How about take some responsibility Hancock!
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07/09/2020 12:14:16 16 30
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Why blame the young? It is quite clear who is to blame - the government. They are the ones who make the rules, they are the ones that enforce the rules, or NOT. One thing is for sure I will never ever vote for these idiots again, they have consistently got things wrong and shout so very quick to blame anyone but themselves.
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07/09/2020 12:15:47 1 3
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@735 oretep GROW UP!!
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07/09/2020 12:15:47 16 6
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wisdom and common sense is wasted on the young
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07/09/2020 12:15:47 10 10
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RISK second wave??? Has Hancock looked at the graphs? There is a second wave.
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07/09/2020 12:15:57 4 7
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In my local sainsbury's, none of the staff are even wearing face masks, despite there being signs everywhere telling people to wear one.
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07/09/2020 12:16:07 11 15
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Positive test doesn’t = hospital bed required or death. If this was the case we would have ambulances parked round the block waiting to off load patients. Anyone who wants to isolate should feel free to do so but let the rest of the country get back to normal. This isn’t the bloody plague. Enough.
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07/09/2020 12:09:54 20 13
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546 flopchops I refuse to wear a mask. Not because I don't care but because I have a degree of intelligence & researched things for myself & made my own decision. ---- Thanks Dominic, helpful as ever. How's the eyesight, better I hope.
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07/09/2020 12:16:07 10 4
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692 JPK 546 flopchops I refuse to wear a mask. Not because I don't care but because I have a degree of intelligence & researched things for myself & made my own decision. ---- Thanks Dominic, helpful as ever. How's the eyesight, better I hope. If you really did research this suggest you go back & look at the more recent work then you'll be wearing a mask to protect yourself & others
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07/09/2020 12:03:41 9 5
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If you are not ill have no symptoms, and never develop any symptoms but return a positive test does that mean you are ill?
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07/09/2020 12:16:07 19 3
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644. Jeremy Nicole: If you are not ill have no symptoms, and never develop any symptoms but return a positive test does that mean you are ill? It does mean you can make other people ill.
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07/09/2020 12:21:09 8 5
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"754. Pete Barrett Jeremy Nicole: If you are not ill have no symptoms, and never develop any symptoms but return a positive test does that mean you are ill? It does mean you can make other people ill." Does it? the evidence is patchy on that one. Also if hospital cases are down and continue to fall why are we worried? I would rather we spend our efforts in health care healing the sick
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07/09/2020 12:14:16 9 11
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The Tories are taking so long to sort the testing out. Anybody would think that they were squabbling over the profits again.
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07/09/2020 12:16:17 9 11
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#737 Herd immunity via the back door. Pretend you're tracing and testing when the reality is, you're deliberately allowing a spread among the population. The right always lack the courage of their convictions and this is another example. They're too afraid to fess up to what they're doing.
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07/09/2020 12:22:51 6 2
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755. You #737 Herd immunity via the back door. . The right always lack the courage of their convictions and this is another example. They're too afraid to fess up to what they're doing" if it wasn't for the freedom loving 'right' the german national socialists would have won ww2 mate! and the USSR the cold war. CCP/PLA to deal with now or r u not worried about them?
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07/09/2020 12:16:27 8 12
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Say it as it is, old people are are dying because of the ignorance of the young.
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07/09/2020 12:16:38 5 3
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Bored now let the second coming arrive Then the third and forth repeat ad nauseam
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07/09/2020 12:16:38 12 5
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Sadly this is becoming a debate between the “one life is worth more than the economy“ and the “more people will die if the economy can’t flourish” The reality is, life has risks at every turn and and always has. Covid is just a slightly new one but there are others. Cigarettes, alcohol, fast food..all carry health risks but they’re not banned. Life is what it is and we need to get on with it
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07/09/2020 12:18:28 12 5
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758. Posted by Tessa on Just now Cigarettes, alcohol, fast food..all carry health risks but they’re not banned. ____ Genius, let's just ban Covid & go back to normal!
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07/09/2020 12:16:38 5 8
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The fact the young are getting it now is probably more due to the fact the virus attacked mostly the old (who have lower immunity) first. The net result is that there isn't the large pool of old people left who haven't had the disease to get infected. The data supports this along with any modelling of the disease spread which includes heterogeneity in susceptibility.
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07/09/2020 12:09:44 21 5
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Out on my lonesome bike ride life around where I live appears to have gone back to normal - no social distancing being observed and in the evening groups of youngsters milling around together. This is due to loads of mixed messages from above, irresponsible media reporting and utter individual selfish stupidity.
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07/09/2020 12:16:58 16 6
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@690 "This is due to loads of mixed messages from above.." How can anyone with half a brain get mixed up with the instruction to keep your distance from people outside of your household or bubble, avoid crowds of people, wear a mask in indoor settings and wash your hands regularly". Hardly rocket science is it.
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07/09/2020 12:23:21 5 3
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@760 Earlier this year, UK advice was (wrongly) for the general public not to wear masks, despite other countries using them (most countries which made mask wearing compulsory indoors earlier have lower death rates than the UK). Then masks were only mandatory on public transport and shops, then in other indoor areas. They are still not mandatory in schools. Just one example of mixed messaging.
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07/09/2020 12:16:58 9 11
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Young people breaking rules risk ‘second wave’.............It's this stupid GOV giving conflicting messages,Gov will blame anyone but themselves..
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07/09/2020 12:16:58 10 2
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This is a real difficult one being an oldie now do have some sympathy with the difficulty with these social distancing rules young people must be having. That said illegal raves should not be happening. Beginning to think government will have to give a date for reopening of nightclubs at least they could have names & addresses taken & test & trace would-be easier.
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07/09/2020 12:17:08 10 3
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They will be blaming Badgers next! Oh... they already did that... I ????
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07/09/2020 12:17:08 9 7
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Opening bars and pubs, sending children back to classrooms without masks and then asking teenagers to keep social distancing, not surprising no one will follow the rules...they’re too bloody confusing for most people. Mixed messages, wishy washy advice, ever changing directives, contradictory scientific communication. Imagine running a company like this, let alone a country during a pandemic!
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07/09/2020 12:17:08 13 4
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Has the Covid 19 alert system been scrapped or just ignored by the hysterical media. Surely we are at level 2 which is minimal social distancing? I note the media switch to case numbers instead of deaths due to the minimal amount of the latter - got to keep the hysteria going somehow. I would suggest the kids are acting correctly when looking at the overall risk to 99.5% of the population
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07/09/2020 12:17:18 10 13
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The young are generally irresponsible these days, and are to be blamed for high Corona virus numbers in this country.
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07/09/2020 12:17:28 7 16
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How absolutely ridiculous trying to blame young people for a situation that the government enabled in March by not stopping flights into UK. It is very obvious that masks are useless as rates rise in every country where they are mandatory. Social distancing works, dirty, unhygienic masks are increasing infection rate. The young are being used as scapegoats for the governments failures.
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07/09/2020 12:17:28 9 4
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Yes the cases are going up, but at this point in cases the first wave we were over 300 deaths per day, now we're at 2 (many reasons behind this). The virus is going nowhere, even if a vaccine comes about, it's not a silver bullet, the seasonal flu vaccine is only around 40% effective, a Covid one is going to be similar at best. Since we can't live this way forever, why delay the inevitable?
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07/09/2020 12:17:28 11 8
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Hancock will pass the buck to anyone. If the young stopped going out and stopped going to work it would be their fault that the economy is collapsing.
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07/09/2020 12:17:28 4 4
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expect 2nd wave, if Cummings can and allows a choice why can't we?
Ha ha ha My previous posts have been removed All I said was Old people have to take care of themselves Young people have every right to party There are some sad Bitter old people on here Removed
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07/09/2020 12:20:09 1 4
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@771. What Is Your Problem Yep, bitter and twisted. They love to complain. We love to watch them.
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07/09/2020 12:20:49 8 4
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@771 posted by What Is Your Problem "Old people have to take care of themselves Young people have every right to party" ______________________________________ Parasite!
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07/09/2020 12:23:41 12 1
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771. Posted byWhat Is Your Problem Ha ha ha My previous posts have been removed All I said was Old people have to take care of themselves Young people have every right to party There are some sad Bitter old people on here *** Not what you said at all. You described old people as "coffin dodgers" and recommended young people party - and hence spread the virus. You must be a bitter youngster
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07/09/2020 12:17:48 7 8
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"The health secretary stressed how serious coronavirus can be for young people" Sorry but your own so called Experts have been telling us the complete opposite for months. The WHO says the complete opposite and evidence from around the World shows the complete opposite. Latest ONS Stats show that 564 people under age 44 have died with Covid in England and Wales. Try telling the truth!!
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07/09/2020 12:57:47 9 0
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772. Posted by Parrot on Just now "The health secretary stressed how serious coronavirus can be for young people" Sorry but your own so called Experts have been telling us the complete opposite _____ Those experts never said it can't be serious, just that the risk is low. That's the point he's actually trying to get across; low risk =/= no risk.
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07/09/2020 12:18:08 4 4
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The only time this country will get back to normal with no face mask is when Boris can say that the population has Herd immunity. Results bienf soled up = gives a herd immunity output. Boris will then impose restrictions on elderly moving to protect them, and for the rest of the population we "keep calm and carry on" If Boris has got this wrong, it will have lost faith from UK plc for good.
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07/09/2020 12:18:18 11 1
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Maybe the problem is that complacency has kicked in: very few in hospital, very few in intensive care and very few deaths.
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07/09/2020 12:18:18 18 6
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When the 2nd wave comes just remember, it's all the fault of young people, entitled students, teachers, mums too lazy to look after their kids, shirkers staying at home rather than doing a proper days work, and people ignoring the rules. I'd imagine immigrants will get thrown in the mix as well. It definitely isn't the fault of the Government who locked down too late and opened up too quickly.
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07/09/2020 12:38:58 6 7
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775 ANDY M - well said couldn't have put it better.Tory scum will never take responsibility,this lot now have a new angle on distraction news they use covid to distract from Brexit & vice versa
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07/09/2020 12:18:28 9 4
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Excuse me? headline "young people..breaking rules.... risk 2nd wave". Detail...under 30s are a third of cases, so my simple maths says two thirds of cases are the over 30s.
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07/09/2020 12:16:38 12 5
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Sadly this is becoming a debate between the “one life is worth more than the economy“ and the “more people will die if the economy can’t flourish” The reality is, life has risks at every turn and and always has. Covid is just a slightly new one but there are others. Cigarettes, alcohol, fast food..all carry health risks but they’re not banned. Life is what it is and we need to get on with it
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07/09/2020 12:18:28 12 5
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758. Posted by Tessa on Just now Cigarettes, alcohol, fast food..all carry health risks but they’re not banned. ____ Genius, let's just ban Covid & go back to normal!
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07/09/2020 12:18:38 6 5
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I pin this squarely on the reopening of pubs, bars and clubs. That was the point where the cases started to pick up again. Sure I think a distinction should be made between a quite country local and a busy city bar with loud music blaring, but until that distinction can be made, all venues should have remained closed.
And we're being forced back into our offices because coffee shops are suffering? Removed
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07/09/2020 12:18:38 15 5
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14. Posted by Smelly Farton "And we're being forced back into our offices because coffee shops are suffering?" errr no? There is no government policy forcing you to do anything of the sort. Even if you do go back, no government policy forces you to buy coffee from a coffee shop. But if it's limitless 100% furlough you want, you're going to be disappointed.
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07/09/2020 12:10:55 14 46
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651. Posted bySocialist laughing stockon Just now Selfish, arrogant, entitled... Let's hope their careless actions affect their friends and family first. -- Highly unlikely. They might, however, affect elderly and overweight boomers with underlying, possibly alcohol-related, health conditions. As long as our NHS isn't overwhelmed, is welcome this karma. Carry on, youngsters.
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07/09/2020 12:18:38 9 6
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701. Posted by Seneca Most 'Boomers' I know are fit and relatively healthy. It's the obese, burger munching 'yoof' that should wotchit!!!
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07/09/2020 12:18:48 6 2
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Death rates now are now like the levels seen in China and South Korea, countries where the public knew what to do regarding masks and social distancing.
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07/09/2020 12:18:48 10 3
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But surely our world beating track and trace app will prevail.. ..oh wait..
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Boring story. Where's the coverage of the Trump boaters all sinking ? Removed
Anti youth HYSteria mounts, as more entitled old farts wake up. Removed
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07/09/2020 12:14:06 10 7
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@679 "Do your own research. Look at the 40 years of reports that say MASKS DO NOT STOP VIRUSES." And yet...every country in the world is wearing masks....
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07/09/2020 12:19:09 6 4
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@731 it’s a placebo. How many hospitalisations are there? How many deaths are there? How many have symptoms (true cases)? What is the threshold for a positive test? How many steps in the PCR are there to get to the threshold? Finally, tap water can give a positive result as can various fruits and vegetables!
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07/09/2020 12:19:19 8 3
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Close the pubs till people behave
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07/09/2020 12:14:16 16 30
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Why blame the young? It is quite clear who is to blame - the government. They are the ones who make the rules, they are the ones that enforce the rules, or NOT. One thing is for sure I will never ever vote for these idiots again, they have consistently got things wrong and shout so very quick to blame anyone but themselves.
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07/09/2020 12:19:19 9 1
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735 oretep Surely blame lies with whoever is helping to spread the virus and as the average age of patients in most countries has plummeted, it’s not an unfair conclusion to draw. The governments of most countries have been criticised but nobody is sure of the correct way of coping with such a pandemic. There are no easy answers. More emphasis should be placed on individual responsibility.
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07/09/2020 12:19:19 13 2
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'751. Zukias In my local sainsbury's, none of the staff are even wearing face masks, despite there being signs everywhere telling people to wear one.' That's probably because the staff are exempt
07/09/2020 14:33:43 12 6
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788. Posted by den on Just now We don't buy the message because the numbers don't add up. Virtually nobody dying..... The reason deaths are so low is because people who are most at risk are still shielding. Once they start getting the virus then watch the death toll rise.
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07/09/2020 11:56:07 42 84
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If you are a boomer stop blaming young people and: 1. Apologe for voting in this awful, inept government 2. Apologise to the young for supporting Brexit to their detriment 3. Stay at home and protect yourself from the second wave for the next few months 4. Stay at home in case it flares up again after that. Remember polling booths are full of hard surfaces where COVID can last for decades
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07/09/2020 12:19:29 19 3
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572. Priti Toxic Culture "If you are a boomer stop blaming young people.." I was born in 64, the LAST year of the "Baby Boomers" so anyone under 56 is NOT a "boomer" which implies some ignorance on your part. You just want a label for people wiser than you to denigrate them with; similar to 'snowflake' ... Also, in this case young people are to blame so why shouldn't I blame them?!
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07/09/2020 12:19:29 7 3
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All because an incompetently managed exit from lock down- should have been in managed steps and age related an not in bursts to cover up bad news. Exit was always going to be extremely difficult without proper test and trace not the incompetent private run mess run by Dildo Harding.
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07/09/2020 12:19:29 7 13
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not like the Tories to start a blame game. Mind you, this does feel a bit like pay back. Didn't the old throw the young to the dogs when it came to the EU vote? They didn't care about their futures then. I'm not sure many of the young care what old people think anymore
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07/09/2020 12:19:49 14 5
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This would be the same second wave prophesied after the BLM demonstrations? Or the one following the invasion of south coast beaches? Or perhaps that envisioned when the pubs reopened? If young people are risking spreading the virus why open the Universities? Government policy continues to be a garbled, reactive mess. Are we ever going to see evidence of the science they’re following?
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07/09/2020 12:19:59 5 7
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Wearing masks makes sense. However, it should have been implemented back in March for health reasons. Not three months later to try and encourage people to go out and spend money. The infection rate in the UK is probably now at the bottom of an exponential rise. This was always going to happen when policy is determined solely by economics with a Tory supporting chief scientist wheeled out to nod.
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07/09/2020 12:14:16 9 11
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The Tories are taking so long to sort the testing out. Anybody would think that they were squabbling over the profits again.
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07/09/2020 12:20:09 7 3
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737. Harry Lime The Tories are taking so long to sort the testing out. Anybody would think that they were squabbling over the profits again. == Testing for the most part is provided by private companies, with an obligation to shareholders. Created by ideology? Incompetent leader (Dido Harding)? Political nepotism?
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07/09/2020 12:20:09 15 7
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Millennials only care about getting off their faces, going on protest marches, and virtue signalling. Something to do with immaturity I believe......
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07/09/2020 12:25:21 14 8
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795.. Posted byMiss Ann Thropeon "Millennials only care about getting off their faces, going on protest marches, and virtue signalling." Sounds like great fun but my 5 kids would disagree, maybe dip your toes in the real world occasionally and spend less time grumbling along with the Daily Mail. Life can be fun, try it, you might like it.
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07/09/2020 12:31:34 10 10
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795 Miss Ann Thropeon "Millennials only care about getting off their faces, going on protest marches, and virtue signalling." So, they are the first generation to think of drinking more than a couple of pints? Amazing news! Also, maybe if older people hadn't messed up the world so much and weren't so rampantly racist & homophobic they'd have nothing to protest about and call you out on?
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07/09/2020 12:33:25 6 1
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795.. Posted byMiss Ann Thropeon "Millennials only care about getting off their faces, going on protest marches, and virtue signalling." That sounds more like their parents. The millenials I know are too busy trying to find jobs or getting themselves educated.
Ha ha ha My previous posts have been removed All I said was Old people have to take care of themselves Young people have every right to party There are some sad Bitter old people on here Removed
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07/09/2020 12:20:09 1 4
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@771. What Is Your Problem Yep, bitter and twisted. They love to complain. We love to watch them.
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07/09/2020 11:44:32 16 5
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@411 tomjon: "We went to our local pub/restaurant Saturday evening... social distancing was totally ignored by 20somethings. Toilets one in and one out, went in 6 of them in there. Tables set at a distance apart so they spread out their chains and encroached into other tables." What you also should have seen was the bar management enforcing the rules. It's closure if they don't.
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07/09/2020 12:20:19 4 0
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466 Kendo Nagasaki. Totally agree but totally understaffed and disinterested. BUT why cannot this age group take responsibility for themselves and consequently others.
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07/09/2020 12:14:06 10 7
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@679 "Do your own research. Look at the 40 years of reports that say MASKS DO NOT STOP VIRUSES." And yet...every country in the world is wearing masks....
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07/09/2020 12:20:29 5 2
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@731 Eythe. You are wrong there Edythe. Not every country has made masks mandatory indoors. Spain has and France has and the UK has.......yep clearly looks like they're working. On the contrary several countries have no mandated them and actually strongly discouraged their use. You will find that these countries are doing very well with minimal increase in cases.
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07/09/2020 11:02:02 225 94
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Its raves, holidays, socialising and meeting with friends causing this, not going back to school/office
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07/09/2020 12:20:29 6 5
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@63. BrianR Its raves, holidays, socialising and meeting with friends causing this, not going back to school/office' - Maybe the Government shouldn't have encourage socialising with the 'Eat out to help out' and allowed holidays abroad without a functional test and trace/quarantine system in place. Also, there's no evidence that going back to school/office hasn't contributed to the rise.
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07/09/2020 12:20:39 30 5
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Rather than moan about the government, it is about time people took their own responsibility, rather than waiting for the powers to be to wipe your behind