Coronavirus: Young people breaking rules risk ‘second wave’
07/09/2020 | news | other | 3,154
The health secretary says new coronavirus spikes in France and Spain started with young people.
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07/09/2020 11:06:24 16 20
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Yesterday it was nearly 3000 cases !!!!!!!!! This is precisely on the track to second wave Hancock should stop blaming others, it was the gov who allowed going out for pubs, restaurants and holiday aboard !!!!!!!! Since schools kids followed by a MASSIVE number of univ students return, the third wave is inevitable before the second wave ends Doooooooooommmmmeeeeeeeeeeeedddddd !!!!!!!!!
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07/09/2020 11:06:34 79 131
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That's right, let's target those entitled 20-30 somethings. It's their fault, and their fault alone. Just like they're solely responsible for global warming, starting the pandemic and causing the subsequent economic crash. Rule Britannia! Gammon till I die! ...the divisive politics played by this 'government' knows no bounds. What a bunch of incompetent, under-qualified imbeciles.
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07/09/2020 11:06:34 22 13
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second lockdown on the way it was expected that's how stupid the british youngsters are now they don't listen and don't care we are heading for a disaster
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07/09/2020 11:10:06 14 3
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103. dean "second lockdown on the way it was expected that's how stupid the british youngsters are now they don't listen and don't care we are heading for a disaster" Not just British, probably young people world wide " the health secretary pointed to France and Spain, "where that second wave started largely amongst younger people"
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07/09/2020 11:01:12 23 15
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Would you have listened as a teenager, if from the very begininng you were told it wouldn't affect you, bar a mild sneeze! Nope thought not!
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07/09/2020 11:06:44 13 8
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"52. Posted byMiss Jones 1 minute ago Would you have listened as a teenager, if from the very begininng you were told it wouldn't affect you, bar a mild sneeze! Nope thought not!" they were also told that they would take it back and kill their grandparents, would they listen to that? "Nope thought not!"
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07/09/2020 11:02:22 38 71
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Our moral compass is set by the government. Government advisers ignore the rules, Tories ignore them in their get togethers, and so on. Blame yourself, not the productive part of the population
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07/09/2020 11:06:44 251 22
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@66. Posted by 58 percent did not vote for liar BoJo Our moral compass is set by the government. -- Yours maybe but the rest of us have a sense of personal responsibility. Only children blame others for their own actions.
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07/09/2020 11:06:54 18 7
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i would suggest a second wave is a when not if - only survival of the fittest - supermarkets and shops back to pre covid numbers and attitudes - except some in face masks, no enforcement of those who believe they are exempt - far more than for just medical reasons observed when i last ventured into our local shopping centre..... just madness
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07/09/2020 11:07:15 19 17
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Let us offer the elderly and vulnerable maximum support to isolate themselves rather than lock down the healthy and low risk people. Its is economic suicide and unjust to lock down in order to save the few on the back of the many. Lets help let those who are at risk isolate and everyone else carry on.
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07/09/2020 11:12:57 12 8
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107. Geoff Arnold: "Let us offer the elderly and vulnerable maximum support to isolate themselves rather than lock down the healthy and low risk people." ------ Many elderly are frightened to leave the house because the infection rate is still unacceptably risky for them. And you want to perpetuate this, so youngsters can go out boozing, clubbing and otherwise entertaining themselves.
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07/09/2020 11:07:15 7 1
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Surely it is about time Hancock got a new tie. The pink one must be threadbare by now.
This will be with us for years, vaccines will be no more effective than the flu vaccine is. We need to get on with life and accept that covid will kill some vulnerable people in the same way as flu, pneumonia, heart disease etc do already. More people die in cars every day but we are not going to ban cars ffs Removed
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07/09/2020 11:07:24 19 12
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I’m 65 but I think the youngsters have been locked up too long. Let them live their lives free without piling guilt onto them. They won’t forgive us for this if it goes on much longer. The phrase ‘baby-boomer’ in already being used as a term of denigration.
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07/09/2020 11:20:31 7 3
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@110 Bedfordshire.... The term 'baby boomer' has been used by the young, as an insult, for years. In most cases, the young are no worse than their elders. Unfortunately, a minority act with total disregard to others, in a way that attracts attention; raves, parties, etc.
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07/09/2020 11:07:46 11 9
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Schools reopening hasn't helped plus teenagers partying and not social distancing this is going to happen. Even primary schools catching Covid-19: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54048048
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07/09/2020 11:05:55 28 11
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It's time to put the 'future generations' firmly back in their place now, for their own sakes as much as our own. For some 'unknown reason' (nothing to do with leftist virtue signalling media) they're growing up thinking that THE rules don't apply to 'them', as their age ( not their race) somehow gives them an exemption.
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07/09/2020 11:06:55 17 7
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So, age 20-29 are causing a spike, however secondary school age children age 11-18 years are fine to be 30 people in a room because they don't spread it. What mystical event happens on their 19th birthday?
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07/09/2020 11:06:55 12 14
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Ah yes, blame the young people. Even though whenever on the bus, every single young person follows the rules, and all the older people seemingly don't know how to wear a mask correctly.
YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT AT RISK. THEY SHOULD ACTIVELY GET THE VIRUS TO BUILD HERD IMMUNITY. If you don’t understand or agree with that then you are either an idiot or you haven’t researched the data. Removed
115 Tom Howell ‘ YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT AT RISK. THEY SHOULD ACTIVELY GET THE VIRUS TO BUILD HERD IMMUNITY. ’ While actively spreading the virus to the not so young, the vulnerable, and people with underlying conditions which they might not even know they’ve got. Removed
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07/09/2020 11:07:55 5 4
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Covid .. stress testing NHS, police, social responsibility from the people, and strong leadership from government .. all failing unfortunately.
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07/09/2020 11:08:05 25 7
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Its coming anyway. With 7 million (known) active cases round the world, and couldn't-care-less holidaymakers travelling the world, the best anyone can do is delay the inevitable. The lockdown may have delayed things, but it was never going to stop it.
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07/09/2020 11:02:52 14 30
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Government pointing the finger elsewhere as always! It must be young people being disrespectful, not the fact that they overwhelmingly work in low paid jobs that are most at risk e.g. hospitality, supermarkets, arts etc. Just keep telling everyone to get back to work...
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07/09/2020 11:08:15 23 8
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70 Warwick - younger people do not overwhelmingly work in low paid jobs, about half now go to university. It is their desire for social life that is the problem, where they will not socially distance, then they can go to a supermarket and push into an older person who has gone in for essential food shopping.
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07/09/2020 11:08:35 298 64
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Time to stop bleating endlessly about government failures - we have higher testing rates and lower levels of Covid than most countries in Europe now. We started very poorly, but are actually doing well now. It is not up to Government to "parent" 18-30 year olds - it is not a nanny state, This is not China or North Korea. They have social responsibility.
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07/09/2020 11:08:35 15 2
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Almost everyone seems to be ignoring the rules And it turns out that less than 15% of people that wear them have washed or changed their face masks, fewer wash their hands before or after touching them They handle something they breathe their germs directly into and then handle products in shops!! Genius!
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07/09/2020 11:08:35 10 23
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We are seeing a second wave. Look at the exponential growth. Maybe the government wants to address this, their failed track and trace, the inept leadership and absence of any plans, rather than looking for someone to blame...
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07/09/2020 11:08:35 12 19
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Blame the young , government buck passing as usual . Eventually we will have to get used to it , we can't have fines for this, that and everything , the country is being turned into a police state which they are actually loving.
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07/09/2020 11:14:18 0 4
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122. Posted by redeyeblue Blame the young , No! You blame the police. Go figure
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07/09/2020 11:08:45 15 31
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Well if the likes of Dominic Cummings can’t be bothered to obey the rules why should the kids?
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07/09/2020 11:08:45 38 17
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Divide, divide, divide. Turn everyone against one another. You get one life. Live it.
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07/09/2020 11:09:05 10 10
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Ahhhh yes, open bars & restaurants, get people back into offices to support thieving coffee chains, students are back at University from all areas of the country, but let's just lay all of the blame at the 20-30s.
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07/09/2020 11:02:32 29 18
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32. shaun How far are we away from Herd immunity? -- About 95% away from it. Or, to put it another way.... We're about 1.5million deaths of over 65's away from herd immunity. Which ever way you look at it, it's the worst option available.
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07/09/2020 11:09:15 11 7
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68. Gezza We're about 1.5million deaths of over 65's away from herd immunity. Which ever way you look at it, it's the worst option available. Were it to cause 1.5m deaths, it would be the worst option, but if the disease spreads amongst healthy youths and older people continue to socially distance until a vaccine is available, deaths will be limited and herd immunity will be achieved.
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07/09/2020 11:09:36 4 18
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When the second wave comes we now know who to blame it on! Already this government has not explained after promising a far ranging enquiry the first wave and its lack of response!
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07/09/2020 11:09:36 4 13
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Can the all powerfull BBC not just order the young rulebreakers to stop being selfish, they are their peeps afterall...
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07/09/2020 11:09:36 11 16
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Close pubs and clubs. Restaurants and cafes can operate but must adhere to social distancing, but bars and clubs, the rules go out the window when people have had a bit to drink.
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07/09/2020 11:19:51 7 2
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@129 cant really blame the clubs as they haven't been allowed to open yet
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07/09/2020 11:09:46 12 5
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Seeing tube trains and shops around central London and in particular the City of London, a lot of middle age people and those in 30's and 20's, as well as young people also do not follow the rules, with regards to masks and social distancing. In Regent's Park on Sunday mainly the young and 20's ignoring any social distancing, like Covid-19 doesn't exist
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07/09/2020 11:09:46 17 6
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Showing an increase in cases is fairly meaningless without showing admissions and discharges too.
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07/09/2020 11:22:12 9 3
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131. henrietta: "Showing an increase in cases is fairly meaningless without showing admissions and discharges too." ------ It's not at all meaningless. It's a jump of 50% over 24 hours; a change which may represent the beginning of an exponential increase in infections. We'll know within the next few days.
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07/09/2020 11:04:53 14 17
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Hancock's maths suspect again. If only 1/3 of new cases are 20 to 29 the majority 2/3rds arent.
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07/09/2020 11:09:56 19 2
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"91. Posted bynookiebear 2 minutes ago Hancock's maths suspect again. If only 1/3 of new cases are 20 to 29 the majority 2/3rds arent." and 1/3 is over a 9 year age spread, 2/3rds are over a vastly larger age range. Go back to your maths class
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07/09/2020 11:10:06 11 13
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The people who I've seen not wearing face coverings on public transport and in shops are mainly teenagers and people in their twenties. Obviously a lot of this is down to lousy parenting.
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07/09/2020 11:06:34 22 13
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second lockdown on the way it was expected that's how stupid the british youngsters are now they don't listen and don't care we are heading for a disaster
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07/09/2020 11:10:06 14 3
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103. dean "second lockdown on the way it was expected that's how stupid the british youngsters are now they don't listen and don't care we are heading for a disaster" Not just British, probably young people world wide " the health secretary pointed to France and Spain, "where that second wave started largely amongst younger people"
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07/09/2020 11:10:36 20 8
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The sad truth at the moment is that when you walk into a supermarket at the moment, the majority of those not wearing masks, or wearing them incorrectly, are aged 25 and below. Also a lot of these people don't have underlying conditions, otherwise they'd be more careful about distancing, and not forming groups and pushing past people.
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07/09/2020 11:10:36 29 8
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Blimey I know this Cummings bloke is highly unlikable but so many folks here are just so obsessed with hating him that they've convinced themselves that millions of young people are modelling their behaviour on something some political adviser (whom 99% of them have never heard of) did months ago!! It's more than a bit of a stretch, guys. Its nuts.
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07/09/2020 11:10:56 16 5
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The media kept stressing that covid was a much lesser danger to young people so it’s not surprising that they treat it lightly. However, no-one knows what the long term effects are of even a mild dose.
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07/09/2020 11:10:56 12 6
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Nearly 3000 cases yesterday. The second wave has arrived... and no doubt will be even worse than the first given all the people running around going stabby stabby shooty shooty .... wonder if their victims lives mattered to them ?
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07/09/2020 11:10:56 13 11
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Thought the young weren’t at risk ? Blame ... beach goers Blame .... blm Blame .... non mask wearers Blame ....pub goers Blame.... young Blame the gov .... nah never
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07/09/2020 11:10:56 23 44
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Young versus old game? The old voted for... - Brexit and - the charlatans currently car crashing the economy for their identity crisis. They're sitting on... - relatively secure jobs - defined benefit pensions - buy-to-let properties If old people are at risk then they should shield themselves. No solidarity with their concerns
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07/09/2020 11:11:06 22 27
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Typical baby boomer blaming as usual. Young people should not be crucified for doing what all people did at their age. If older people or anyone feels anxious it is their problem. The message should be say at home if you dont feel you will survive the Covid, flu or anything else. All life has a risk attributed to it. The lockdown and rules are a joke.
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07/09/2020 11:13:08 6 5
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141, lets just hope none of your older relatives catch it or even worse die from it. Baby boomer too, be original.
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07/09/2020 11:13:48 4 5
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141. You better hope we don't take the same selfish view on the environment. After all, older people will be off the planet before it is really messed up.
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07/09/2020 11:17:40 15 7
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141. Posted byDavid Ingramon "Young people should not be crucified for doing what all people did at their age. If older people or anyone feels anxious it is their problem." So if this was a war instead, everybody should go to air-raid shelters unless you're under 25 in which case carry on as normal? The sad truth is that we didn't all live through a pandemic in those years of our life.
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07/09/2020 11:11:16 5 9
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Good on them
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07/09/2020 11:11:17 15 21
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The selfishness of the snowflake generation. The only thing that will get people obeying the rules are large fines widely applied.
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07/09/2020 11:11:27 13 10
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Went to a local pub a few weeks ago. Older people at same table keeping a distance apart. Younger people crammed together on benches.
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07/09/2020 11:11:27 16 20
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Go anywhere, and youll see the younger generation flouting the rules, day or night, rural or urban, its a mindset with them, they couldnt care less if they catch it, and pass it on to the older generation, they are nothing but selfish individuals, with house parties, illegal raves, not social distancing, no holiday quarantining, its time they admitted what they did is wrong before its too late!!!!
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07/09/2020 11:11:37 727 67
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Society completely split. Young vs Old. Black vs White. North vs South. Leave vs Remain. Rules observers vs non observers. Welcome to Great Britain.
07/09/2020 14:29:01 6 1
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146. Posted byTheDarkKnighton 3 hours ago The most intolerant society driven by strict PC attitudes, which are backed up by Police action and thought crushing laws.
07/09/2020 15:02:39 0 0
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146 TheDarkKnight Correct but, all part of the plan??
07/09/2020 15:44:12 9 0
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146. Posted by TheDarkKnight on 5 hours ago Society completely split. Young vs Old. Black vs White. North vs South. Leave vs Remain. Rules observers vs non observers. Welcome to Great Britain. ======== You forget males vs females. Still it does explain why our economy is up the swanny..
07/09/2020 15:48:14 11 2
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@146. TheDarkKnight Society completely split. Young vs Old. Black vs White. North vs South. Leave vs Remain. Rules observers vs non observers. Welcome to Great Britain - You forgot the biggest one of all, working class v upper class, left vs right. This is the world, not just Great Britain. The rich few who own the economy call the shots while us plebs are left to beg for scraps.
07/09/2020 15:59:30 2 0
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146. TheDarkKnight Society completely split. Young vs Old. Black vs White. North vs South. Leave vs Remain. Rules observers vs non observers. Welcome to Great Britain. - democrats vs republicans. it's people. "only a sith (and the daily mail, and the BBC when it wants a headline) deals in absolutes"
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07/09/2020 16:06:13 10 2
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146. by TheDarkKnighton 5 hours ago Society completely split. Young vs Old. Black vs White. North vs South. Leave vs Remain. Rules observers vs non observers. Welcome to Great Britain. -- No - Welcome to Liberalism! If you give people the right to do and be whatever they like - They will. The same is happening in the whole of the West. There really is no simple answer to this dilemma.
07/09/2020 16:19:40 2 0
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146. So what is different from the rest of the World. We are a violent/inquisitive/adaptable animal.
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07/09/2020 16:25:59 13 8
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146. Posted byTheDarkKnighton 5 hours ago Society completely split. Young vs Old. Black vs White. North vs South. Leave vs Remain. Rules observers vs non observers. Welcome to Great Britain. ---- Amazing how the government constantly blame others and take no responsibility themselves too. They will blame teachers when it all goes wrong in the next few weeks, just you watch...
07/09/2020 17:18:59 1 1
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@146 Hey, warned you about this whole "personal is political" thing.
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07/09/2020 11:11:47 11 29
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Ask Dominic Cummings what he thinks about it.
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07/09/2020 11:11:47 16 27
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Kids are getting their revenge for Brexit.
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07/09/2020 11:11:57 15 39
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ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS!! THE YOUNGER PEOPLE (WILL NOT COMPLY WITH REQUESTS,TO ISOLATE) And the POWERS at (B) ARE SITTING ON HANDS,, RATHER THAN HANING OUT LOADS OF HEAVY FINES,, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THIS ENFORCEMENT??
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07/09/2020 11:05:44 52 16
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67. Boyatthood - really? One man broke the rules months ago - very silly I admit and you and others here now decide that every single person who breaks the rules because of Cummings? I am not sure who is more stupid if that is the case - you or them! It just about sums up the brains on the left of this Country - negligible!
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07/09/2020 11:11:57 3 10
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"97. Posted by Flipper 58 on Just now 67. Boyatthood - really? One man broke the rules months ago - very silly I admit and you and others here now decide that every single person who breaks the rules because of Cummings? I am not sure who is more stupid if that is the case - you or them! " It's called leading by example..... Leadership seems to have gone walkies, so no one cares.
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07/09/2020 11:12:07 16 15
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It's time to get back to normal now and move on, this virus is not the Black Death, it's a mild virus similar to flu. Most of the deaths are 'with' Covid not 'of' Covid. The idea we can choose to ignore the economy is very dangerous and foolish, if it collapses then you will really have something to moan about.
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07/09/2020 11:19:40 37 15
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@151 U14553914 “It's time to get back to normal now and move on, this virus is not the Black Death, it's a mild virus similar to flu. Most of the deaths are 'with' Covid not 'of' Covid [...]” - It’s people like you that aren’t taking this pandemic seriously that will lead to it dragging on for years. I’m not sure how you can ignore the science and data with 40k dead over the summer.
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07/09/2020 11:12:07 99 5
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We only ever slowed C19 down, as long as we can prevent the NHS being overrun and get back to treating other conditions then manage the situation to that. Its a balance between treatments and death from all diseases not only C19. A vaccine may arrive, doubt it'll be a magic bullet, get used to the idea that you'll be exposed at some point if your're to live a reasonably normal life.
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07/09/2020 11:12:07 20 6
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My kids are back at school in classes of 30. I’d be fined if I didn’t send them. How is any of this their fault? Or have the rules changed and they’ll suddenly be half the numbers in their school?
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07/09/2020 11:12:37 13 5
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So a third of the cases were for younger generation. The other 2/3rds were of a normal distribution. Doesn’t sound like they are behaving any different from anyone else ??
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07/09/2020 11:03:03 235 69
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50. Posted byelphieon Just now Whilst appalled at the behaviour of some, I don't like this lazy narrative of blaming 'the young' for any rise. Especially from the bunch of incompetents 'in charge'. Look at the age profile of the new cases, its clear that the younger generation are the cause of the spike, not lazy narrative, just fact
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07/09/2020 11:12:37 3 7
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73 whatever So if a young person say gets harmed by an adult its that young persons fault because they're the victim? Just because someone gets a disease doesn't mean they were responsible, why can't it have been a dirty dribbling "i ain't wearing no mask" adult that infected these young? Victim blaming at its finest, next time you catch something confess your wrong doing to all criminal.
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07/09/2020 11:12:37 10 8
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it's all a joke. i've been 'asked' to return to the office in Scotland, where we've seen biggest increase since May. Oh I'll be taking public transport as well. Happy days, I'll be quite happy to spread to all and sundry in my office, because despite popular belief, we can work quite easily from home.
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07/09/2020 11:12:37 15 10
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Whatever happens with covid 19, it must be the governments fault. At least that will be labours and the medias line shortly.
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07/09/2020 11:12:47 13 19
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Ah yes blame the young. Standard refrain of the blue rinse brigade.
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07/09/2020 11:08:47 11 6
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It's really odd that hospital admission figures for people who have Covid19 are not reported? Probably because those catching it are not ill.
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07/09/2020 11:08:47 11 9
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Students returning to schools,colleges and universities are told that social distancing is not applicable to them, so don't blame the younger generation, blame contradictory policies by an inept government.
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07/09/2020 11:10:57 38 13
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One thing that is clear is the contempt for the elderly being shown by the younger generations. I watched on TV yesterday one person saying i dont know what covid does, does it cause blindness... Beggars belief....
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07/09/2020 11:12:57 12 2
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People think if it doesn't affect them it doesn't matter...For many years human nature has been ignored and misunderstood. This virus has shown society and mankind for what it really is. Those who give a damn and those who don't
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07/09/2020 11:07:15 19 17
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Let us offer the elderly and vulnerable maximum support to isolate themselves rather than lock down the healthy and low risk people. Its is economic suicide and unjust to lock down in order to save the few on the back of the many. Lets help let those who are at risk isolate and everyone else carry on.
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07/09/2020 11:12:57 12 8
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107. Geoff Arnold: "Let us offer the elderly and vulnerable maximum support to isolate themselves rather than lock down the healthy and low risk people." ------ Many elderly are frightened to leave the house because the infection rate is still unacceptably risky for them. And you want to perpetuate this, so youngsters can go out boozing, clubbing and otherwise entertaining themselves.
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07/09/2020 11:11:06 22 27
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Typical baby boomer blaming as usual. Young people should not be crucified for doing what all people did at their age. If older people or anyone feels anxious it is their problem. The message should be say at home if you dont feel you will survive the Covid, flu or anything else. All life has a risk attributed to it. The lockdown and rules are a joke.
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07/09/2020 11:13:08 6 5
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141, lets just hope none of your older relatives catch it or even worse die from it. Baby boomer too, be original.
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07/09/2020 11:15:49 11 8
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164. My older relatives dont care. They are happy with the life they had and dont want to hold back younger people.
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07/09/2020 11:13:08 15 3
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We need to be practical as well as safe. The young people have been locked down for too long and the economy is tanking. Lets just ensure that we take sensible precautions with local lockdowns and shielding for vulnerable and get back as close to normal as possible
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07/09/2020 11:13:08 24 2
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Wish they'd tell us the number of new cases as a % of tests done, other wise it's a bit meaningless One thing to say more cases because of more testing but what is the % of positives? Could easily add the numbers tested over time to that graph so we could see
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07/09/2020 11:16:39 3 2
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@166, it doesn’t matter how many tests are done. What matters is how many tests are done on people with symptoms as these are the genuine medical cases. See https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/09/04/covid-why-terminology-really-matters/ The BBC reported yesterday about false positives from the testing
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07/09/2020 11:13:08 11 7
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Nonsense on here about young people being locked up etc. Social distancing and face covering in some indoor places is NOT difficult or disruptive to normal life, but it seems a step too far for a large swathe of the population who don't give a @@@@, so we all have to suffer.
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Its mainly Brexiteers that are not wearing mask. Removed
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07/09/2020 11:29:05 12 4
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168. Euroman "Its mainly Brexiteers that are not wearing mask" --------- Yeah like Piers Corbyn & all the lefties marching for 'Freedom' over being 'forced' to wear masks in London the other weekend
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07/09/2020 10:59:41 193 115
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Cases have been increasing since the beginning of July (largely as a result of increased testing) however there has been NO increase in either hospital admissions or deaths, both of which have CONTINUED TO FALL! The media don't mention deaths anymore (as there are hardly any) they only focus on cases... More scaremongering!
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07/09/2020 11:13:27 14 6
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@39 "there has been NO increase in either hospital admissions or deaths, both of which have CONTINUED TO FALL!" Excellent point! I guess people in certain quarters will be hoping this changes asap & number of deaths start increasing sharply. Otherwise we're all going to be sitting here with egg in our faces, a knackered economy and huge Government debt. Only short sellers laughing then.
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07/09/2020 11:13:27 27 2
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With the number of youngsters testing positive rising and youngsters being more likely to be asymptomatic, I do wonder why they are getting tested in the first place. Maybe someone in their household is falling ill and they are being caught when the household gets tested. Either way it’s not all youngsters that are letting the side down, just the idiots.
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07/09/2020 11:13:38 11 8
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A lot of older people are having a go at the young even though many of them are far from blameless when it comes to behaviour. As an old fogy I'm far more likely to be have social distance observed by younger generations than my age group. Mask wearers are the worst (Not compulsory locally), it's like they are invincible! You're only young once, and not for long.
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07/09/2020 11:11:06 22 27
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Typical baby boomer blaming as usual. Young people should not be crucified for doing what all people did at their age. If older people or anyone feels anxious it is their problem. The message should be say at home if you dont feel you will survive the Covid, flu or anything else. All life has a risk attributed to it. The lockdown and rules are a joke.
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07/09/2020 11:13:48 4 5
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141. You better hope we don't take the same selfish view on the environment. After all, older people will be off the planet before it is really messed up.
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07/09/2020 11:13:58 16 8
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After many many years of Labour mis-rule, Blair's Yooman Rights campaigns to line his wife's pockets, Conservative cowardice at poor headlines rather than just doing the right thing you end up with a rump of society who have zero sense of personal responsibility. 20 years of politics being run by public opinion and now politics by Twitter feed. Easier to blame the Govt than look to ourselves.
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07/09/2020 11:14:08 32 7
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So Schools, Colleges and Hospitality have opened up. Given these are areas that have large numbers of under 25's in them is it a surprise. But I suppose the headline "Young people risking second wave by going to school and work" doesn't read as nicely
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07/09/2020 11:08:35 12 19
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Blame the young , government buck passing as usual . Eventually we will have to get used to it , we can't have fines for this, that and everything , the country is being turned into a police state which they are actually loving.
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07/09/2020 11:14:18 0 4
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122. Posted by redeyeblue Blame the young , No! You blame the police. Go figure
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07/09/2020 10:57:11 10 16
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How far are we away from Herd immunity?
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07/09/2020 11:14:28 10 1
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32 shaun "How far are we away from Herd immunity? " A long way. Herd immunity kicks in when 1-1/Ro of the population is immune through infection or vaccination. Ro (the number of people each case infects with no precautions ) is 3. In the UK we need 68 million*1-1/3 = 45 million. So far ONS reckons we have infected 5 million.
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07/09/2020 11:14:28 9 15
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No one I know can factually name anyone who is supposed to have covid 19. Factually not unsubstantiated rumours. A friend of mine had a cold two weeks ago and everyone in the area knew about it. He was tested for a back operation and proved negative for covid 19. Definitely had coronavirus, a cold. Tens of thousands of people had covid 19 on their death certificates but didn’t have covid 19
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07/09/2020 11:18:50 11 4
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177 castawaypaul ‘ No one I know can factually name anyone who is supposed to have covid 19. ’ All this testing going on across the world and all the authorities needed to do was ask you and your mates about infection levels. Why on earth didn’t they think of that?
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07/09/2020 11:24:03 11 8
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177 castawaypaul ‘ No one I know can factually name anyone who is supposed to have covid 19. ’ I can name 3 personally - all dead now
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07/09/2020 11:27:24 8 3
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@177 No one I know can factually name anyone who is supposed to have covid 19. I know people who have had it if that helps ... Just because you and the circle of people you have asked don;t know anyone doesn't prove anything other than the group of people you have asked were not aware of anyone who had covid - that is the only conclusion you can draw from your fact
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07/09/2020 11:14:28 8 4
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Lets face it, coronavirus isn't going away. Whether lockdown is eased more now or later, there will always be a 2nd wave
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07/09/2020 11:14:38 9 1
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In Scotland the biggest group of positive cases is in the 25-64 age group for females. Not feckless males.
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07/09/2020 11:14:38 16 6
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Hmmm...simple fact is that as younger people are less affected, they assume they can "get away with it". I wonder how many will end up regretting the day they took it home the their parents and grandparents who end up dead. It's not just Covid, and not just the current youngsters - at that age most of us felt we were invincible - Covid will prove otherwise
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07/09/2020 11:14:48 12 20
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This government just hasn't got a clue. Always someone else to blame for their egregious failures.
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07/09/2020 11:20:01 6 0
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181 Posted by Smileymcgeeon "This government just hasn't got a clue. Always someone else to blame for their egregious failures." ___________________________ I love irony when I spot it! The people who can't, don't, apparently. =)
You voted for Brexit, I vote for Covid! Removed
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07/09/2020 11:15:08 11 2
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This graph is misleading though because the figures from April and May for example were only from hospitals, now there is a lot more testing in the general population. Since we don't know the true number of cases in the early months, surely you can only compare the hospital cases to give the trend?
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07/09/2020 10:57:20 54 46
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They're just following Cummings et al's example.
18 Morons who went to Greece for a week came back infected. This is a pattern, repeating itself. People are ignoring the social distancing rules when they get drunk abroad. How did the virus get here to the UK ? Ask yourself, what measures would You take to prevent it coming here from overseas holiday destinations where people mix in big numbers ? Answers on a postcard to.... Removed
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07/09/2020 11:15:18 13 12
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If we had a competent, truthful Government then people of all ages would have more respect - but after 6 months of lockdown and restrictions, flouted by Cummings etc, is it any wonder that people of all ages are beginning to think that 'life is for living'. BoJo and collegues are more intent on fear, division and blame.
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07/09/2020 11:15:18 9 20
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Tory incompetence has already resulted in the start of a second wave which started with Cummings trip north.
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ROY
07/09/2020 11:15:28 8 1
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Not really a great news story however when you test more you will find more so what we need to know is the % of positive cases not the number otherwise it is a meaningless figure
YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT AT RISK. THEY SHOULD ACTIVELY GET THE VIRUS TO BUILD HERD IMMUNITY. If you don’t understand or agree with that then you are either an idiot or you haven’t researched the data. Removed
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115 Tom Howell ‘ YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT AT RISK. THEY SHOULD ACTIVELY GET THE VIRUS TO BUILD HERD IMMUNITY. ’ While actively spreading the virus to the not so young, the vulnerable, and people with underlying conditions which they might not even know they’ve got. Removed
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07/09/2020 11:15:38 84 7
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British people need to get a bit more respect for each other, old and young.
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07/09/2020 11:13:08 6 5
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141, lets just hope none of your older relatives catch it or even worse die from it. Baby boomer too, be original.
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07/09/2020 11:15:49 11 8
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164. My older relatives dont care. They are happy with the life they had and dont want to hold back younger people.
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07/09/2020 11:15:49 6 3
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And the venues that they are attending need stricter control.
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07/09/2020 11:15:49 2 6
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20-29 is a 10 year spread
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07/09/2020 11:16:09 12 12
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Recently returned from Bulgaria. What a refreshing change to be in a country that is not gripped by paranoia and fear such as the pathetic UK. Lets face it, we now know as fact that this low mortality rate virus is of virtually no risk to the vast majority. Destroying the lives of many to save a few already ill people, when they could just be shielded is illogical and disproportionate!
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07/09/2020 11:13:08 24 2
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Wish they'd tell us the number of new cases as a % of tests done, other wise it's a bit meaningless One thing to say more cases because of more testing but what is the % of positives? Could easily add the numbers tested over time to that graph so we could see
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07/09/2020 11:16:39 3 2
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@166, it doesn’t matter how many tests are done. What matters is how many tests are done on people with symptoms as these are the genuine medical cases. See https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/09/04/covid-why-terminology-really-matters/ The BBC reported yesterday about false positives from the testing
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07/09/2020 11:16:39 14 5
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There is one slight flaw in the increasing infections which the press seem to be obsessed with...hardly anyone is getting ill from it
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07/09/2020 11:16:49 14 30
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No they dont. Young people - dont let the Tories blame you, you are just next in line of the sections of society they will attempt to parse blame onto. A second wave of covid is the Governments fault for the care home debacle, underfunding the NHS leading to a lack of PPE, fudging the lockdown, opening up too soon and having one rule for them and another for the rest of us.
196 Not an idiot "Young people - dont let the Tories blame you, you are just next in line of the sections of society they will attempt to parse blame onto. A second wave of covid is the Governments fault for the care home debacle, underfunding the NHS leading to a lack of PPE, fudging the lockdown, opening up too soon and..." -- Your username is misleading. Removed
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07/09/2020 11:16:49 19 196
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Just put the country back into lockdown. We will certainly be in lockdown by the end of Sept. This time the lockdown needs to be much stricter, for example no exercise and it needs to last well into next year. We gave no alternative and as for the economy that those not justify half a million dead.
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07/09/2020 11:26:24 11 4
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197) "This time the lockdown needs to be much stricter, for example no exercise and it needs to last well into next year." Don't you think six months of no exercise will cause many more deaths than Covid ever could?
07/09/2020 16:08:16 6 5
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197 ICC256: "This time the lockdown needs to be much stricter, for example no exercise" No, the lockdown needs to be no stricter than last time - perhaps just more strictly enforced. Exercise alone or with a member of the household is very low risk, and much higher risk to general health if not allowed. The highest risk aspect of lone exercise would be enforcing a ban of it.
07/09/2020 18:11:28 4 4
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@197 icc256 A full lockdown is probably overkill, what needs to be done is for everybody to take the pandemic seriously and play the game properly.
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07/09/2020 11:16:49 6 7
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Love the way the kids are being blamed. It was the same with the trips that youngsters were making to Zante. No one seemed to have cottoned onto the fact that the holidays were paid for by someone and permission to go was also granted by that same someone. I think you will find the guilty ones are not the kids, but the (so called) grown ups.
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07/09/2020 11:16:49 9 2
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It is not just the young who are breaking the rules - lots of people just don't seem to care any more. There is so much false science out there that is not helping. Truth is we are all guilty if we don't exactly follow the rules. Doesn't help that each area has a different rule set, and that is on the government to clearly state rules. But it is then down to all of us to obey the rules.
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07/09/2020 11:16:49 11 5
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We now know that CV19 is quite selective in who it kills/affects severely so the only infection rate that matters is amongst 'at risk' groups. Rising infections in otherwise healthy young people are a lower concern than cancer or road deaths