Coronavirus: Young people breaking rules risk ‘second wave’
07/09/2020 | news | other | 3,154
The health secretary says new coronavirus spikes in France and Spain started with young people.
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07/09/2020 16:47:28 9 3
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Death rates in France have in fact not gone up significantly, contrary to what Hancock suggests. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/
07/09/2020 16:45:11 8 9
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So the Scottish Government today say you can’t meet inside another persons house but you are allowed to meet up in the pub. The world has gone mad. All for a mild flu virus.
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07/09/2020 16:47:37 2 2
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2494. Posted bybillon Just now So the Scottish Government today say you can’t meet inside another persons house but you are allowed to meet up in the pub The world has gone mad. \\ It's not compulsory!
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How about you coffin dodgers back off..I see way more young and families wearing masks than old people. If I got a pound for every time I told an old person to put mask up I would be rich. By the way it's not an excuse for you older gen to take your mask off when your talking to shop staff. Also the amount of old people who don't cover nose is bafferling. Everyone any age should be wearing a mask. Removed
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07/09/2020 16:47:48 7 0
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How much madness can we bare? First of all THE LOCKDOWN 4 months of inactivity in the economy taking it to the brink. Then all of a sudden the lockdown is eased off but holidaying abroad is banned, Then, oops except that you can go to ABC on holiday. Then OOps, A&B are listed & u have to Quarantee 14 days if you've been to either, by the way D&E are open, then within the week Oops D is listed????
07/09/2020 16:56:52 7 0
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2505. Baldeagle4travel "How much madness can we bare? " The government change the lockdown conditions in response to changes in the number of cases and their origin. You can expect tightening as cases continue to rise. This is called adaptive triggering. Unfortunately it takes a week to ten days for new infections to become new cases, so we are always two weeks behind events.
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07/09/2020 16:47:48 2 0
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So we have passed the threshold where we quarantine people coming back on holiday.
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ted
07/09/2020 16:47:58 13 2
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herd immunity, still the only game in town that is unless you prefer total economic disintegration that is, which quite a few seem to, not sure why, best guess, utter stupidity ?
07/09/2020 16:50:12 0 0
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2507 your best guess is highly accurate I reckon
07/09/2020 16:54:03 2 5
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2507. ted herd immunity, still the only game in town that is unless you prefer total economic disintegration that is, which quite a few seem to, not sure why, best guess, utter stupidity ? And the government still push towards a No Deal Brexit
07/09/2020 17:07:33 4 8
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2507ted herd immunity, still the only game in town that is unless you prefer total economic disintegration that is, which quite a few seem to, not sure why, best guess, utter stupidity? Herd immunity was rightly abandoned very early on as there was (and still is) zero evidence that it was achievable. Prediction was it could cost 500k lives. Think common cold, ever had it more than once?
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07/09/2020 16:45:08 14 4
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I was in a major DIY store last bank holiday. The route to walk clearly mark. Many signs saying you must wear a mask. A person and his family came towards me no masks. I asked them if they could follow the arrows. I explained because of my cancer I was trying to keep my distance. The reply. Don't be stupid you cannot catch cancer from another person. Education education education failed in my view
Dodgy Tories set a time limit of dying from COVID-19 of 28 days from a positive test. If you take longer to die then you're not included in the official figures. Removed
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07/09/2020 16:48:18 8 4
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2490. Posted byHughEdinburgh alas your ignorance of the reality is stunning! Some doctors have been guilty of putting covid as cause for many who died of other factors but it fit an agenda! Dont let your blame culture political agenda get in the way of the reality.
07/09/2020 17:00:36 3 3
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2509. Posted by wizzywig Blaming the health professionals, who know a lot more than idiot due Bo and Dom. If only Matt H had rolled out testing so the doctors could confirm COVID-19.
why did the BBC fail to share a description of the murderer on the loose in Birmingham? Why did you put lives at risk by not sharing the identity of a killer running amok in Birmingham for 2 hours?????? Why should we pay you for this shameful censorship and negligence of public duty? Removed
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2492. Posted by wizzywig on Just now why did the BBC fail to share a description of the murderer on the loose in Birmingham? " Because the police asked the media not to do that you utter nugget. Removed
2510. Posted byBobC yes all part of the media cover up for political correctness. You uttertwat Removed
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07/09/2020 16:48:38 9 3
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We did poorly at the outset, got worse, ended lock down too soon but now I think we have the right approach IF and only IF people, young and old, follow the rules. If enough of us do not think back to the month of March and consider if you want to go through in again for Christmas... and almost certainly with no furlough scheme this time.
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07/09/2020 16:49:08 5 0
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So the Scottish Government today say you can’t meet inside another persons house but you are allowed to meet up in the pub. == Just a ploy to try and get people spending money. You meet your Gran in a pub "spending money", but not at her house spending nothing having a cupa tea. lmao!
07/09/2020 16:37:25 6 6
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The Government's problem is that they have bombarded the public with silly slogans, outright lies and half-truths about most aspects of their agenda. Nobody believes anything they say about anything - and nobody takes this bunch of clowns seriously any more. Unfortunately, this lack of trust is having very serious consequences! ToryLiesMatter.
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07/09/2020 16:49:19 13 0
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2459 "The Government's problem is that they have bombarded the public with silly slogans." 2484 "The Government's problem is that they have been bombarded by public stupidity." Can we just agree that we are in the midst of an attritional war of stupid between government and public?
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07/09/2020 16:49:19 4 0
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Why is the BBC presenting a statistic that is un-normalised?? There is no effort to allow for the number of people being tested, What about explaining the graph in terms of the 'four pillars'? That might tell you something about where the infection was and is most prevalent. Do a proper comparison, pillar by pillar if you can get the data.
07/09/2020 17:07:00 16 4
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2514. Posted byGaryP "Why is the BBC presenting a statistic that is un-normalised?? " Because they want to make it look as bad as possible. They just love to have everyone living in fear.
ted
07/09/2020 16:47:58 13 2
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herd immunity, still the only game in town that is unless you prefer total economic disintegration that is, which quite a few seem to, not sure why, best guess, utter stupidity ?
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07/09/2020 16:50:12 0 0
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2507 your best guess is highly accurate I reckon
2492. Posted by wizzywig on Just now why did the BBC fail to share a description of the murderer on the loose in Birmingham? " Because the police asked the media not to do that you utter nugget. Removed
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2510. Posted byBobC yes all part of the media cover up for political correctness. You uttertwat Removed
07/09/2020 16:38:47 6 5
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On the bus the other day, everybody wearing masks. Then 8 15-17 year old idiots got on, no masks and shouting their heads off.
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07/09/2020 16:50:43 8 5
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@2468 nope you’re still wrong. My niece has been undertaking research into death certs arising in covid deaths. The overwhelming majority had significant pre existing conditions that would have led to the patient’s demise, although yes the deaths were brought forward. Too many non elderly people rely on pills to manage their underlying illnesses these days & that attitude needs changing.
07/09/2020 17:21:09 11 8
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2517. whatshappeningtotheworld The overwhelming majority had significant pre existing conditions that would have led to the patient’s demise, although yes the deaths were brought forward. -- Just being alive leads ultimately to death too. If deaths were "brought forward" by Covid then that is what killed them.
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07/09/2020 16:50:43 8 4
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2490 HughEdinburgh Dodgy Tories set a time limit of dying from COVID-19 of 28 days from a positive test. If you take longer to die then you're not included in the official figures. ------ I think you will find that a lot of others countries used that measure as well. But that doesn't suite your blinkered view
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07/09/2020 16:50:55 7 2
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The inconsistencies in the guidance make little sense. We are required to wear a facemask in shops, but the staff don't have to, so in Tesco recently the staff not wearing masks outnumbered the customers who were. Statistically the infections will increase where not wearing a mask. NHS staff have been threatened with disciplinaries for not wearing masks. Mandatory for all, except with exemptions!
07/09/2020 16:53:10 4 5
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2519Statistically the infections will increase where not wearing a mask...really ? give references.
07/09/2020 17:14:34 10 4
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2519. michaelG Statistically the infections will increase where not wearing a mask -- You cannot cite something as statistically true without the statistics to prove it. And you don't have those as they don't exist.
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Blimey, surely this inept Government has to go. They can't keep supplying Frankie Boyle material that will last for years! Removed
07/09/2020 16:47:28 2 4
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Usual shoddy reporting, one third of cases were people between 20 and 29. Would that also mean that two thirds of cases were in people over 29. I would suggest he's targeting the wrong group.
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07/09/2020 16:50:56 6 3
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2500. Posted byParroton Just now Usual shoddy reporting, one third of cases were people between 20 and 29. Would that also mean that two thirds of cases were in people over 29. I would suggest he's targeting the wrong group. \\ Usual shoddy complaining, does nobody under 20 get coronavirus?
07/09/2020 16:44:10 16 5
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There are lots of younger people who won't wear a mask, who won't social distance but there are also a lot of middle aged and older people who are just as bad. This isn't over yet, do as you are told and stop people from dying.
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07/09/2020 16:51:16 19 21
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2485- nothing is going to stop people dying. People have been dying for hundreds of thousands of years. People will continue to die. And a stupid little mask is not going to stop it from happening.
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07/09/2020 16:53:10 12 4
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The most important preventative measure is for everyone to do their best to avoid passing the virus on. It's highly contagious, you can have it without knowing, it can be passed on to people near you just by talking, let alone coughing, laughing etc, and it survives some time on surfaces. Think about that before you open your mouth, or cough into your hand just before you push the shop door open.
07/09/2020 16:50:55 7 2
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The inconsistencies in the guidance make little sense. We are required to wear a facemask in shops, but the staff don't have to, so in Tesco recently the staff not wearing masks outnumbered the customers who were. Statistically the infections will increase where not wearing a mask. NHS staff have been threatened with disciplinaries for not wearing masks. Mandatory for all, except with exemptions!
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07/09/2020 16:53:10 4 5
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2519Statistically the infections will increase where not wearing a mask...really ? give references.
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07/09/2020 16:53:21 3 9
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oh the cynics are out in force today - right wing nut jobs innit
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07/09/2020 10:57:50 499 67
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As an over 70 who has to look after 3 Grandchildren because their Mum works, I have to say I am very worried. If she gives up work she can't afford the rent so it has to be done. I keep telling them to be careful not to give it to me and my wife.
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07/09/2020 16:53:52 3 3
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24. Posted by Tony Pearce As an over 70 who has to look after 3 Grandchildren because their Mum works, I have to say I am very worried. I recommend you keep them in a separate room to yourself. And when they leave air that room.
ted
07/09/2020 16:47:58 13 2
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herd immunity, still the only game in town that is unless you prefer total economic disintegration that is, which quite a few seem to, not sure why, best guess, utter stupidity ?
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07/09/2020 16:54:03 2 5
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2507. ted herd immunity, still the only game in town that is unless you prefer total economic disintegration that is, which quite a few seem to, not sure why, best guess, utter stupidity ? And the government still push towards a No Deal Brexit
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Tom
07/09/2020 16:52:13 6 7
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No good warning young people to think about grandparents. It's a case of party party party at the weekend, have a test on the Monday then if OK see granny on Thursday. Repeat and rinse. Test positive, nothing to lose. Granny can be seen again in a week, feeling OK so plans for another party weekend.
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07/09/2020 16:54:35 4 1
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Looking at the data there’s a clear difference between this (second wave?) and the first wave, especially if you look at France and Spain! Detection / infection rate is up, but deaths don’t seem to be increasing much if at all, the three week lag previously noted isn’t there this time! Clearly something is different, and it’s easy to speculate, but you can bet the authorities don’t know why!
07/09/2020 17:08:15 7 0
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2529. Private Frazer Detection / infection rate is up, but deaths don’t seem to be increasing much if at all -- Deaths have always been evident. Known infection rates will have risen with testing volume. Many seem to get alarmed because they know about something they didn't previously know, despite it having been there before. And the constant news coverage doesn't exactly help.
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07/09/2020 10:58:30 664 148
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Unfortunately because young people are well known to not be in general as badly affected by covid-19 many are blasé around it. I would like to see the government focus on reminding them again and again that they will take it home to their parents, their grandparents who might not be so fortunate. It needs to be hammered home
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07/09/2020 16:55:28 14 9
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26 - don’t forget, most grandparents to have been killed by covid were because of the governments horrific policy of transferring sick people to care homes. They then have the nerve to tell us to be careful.
07/09/2020 17:06:39 12 4
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2530 how nice 'most grandparents to have been killed by covid were because of the governments horrific policy of transferring sick people to care homes' And not in any way due to agency staff going from home to home because permanent staff stayed away in droves once a case was found.
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07/09/2020 16:55:28 15 5
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So unbelievably frustrating. There are masses of people 40+ socialising. Conviniently most of these have already found love, settled down, bought their homes, kept jobs. They are now judging all those terrible young adults for the audacity of wanting friends, falling in love, going to work, paying rent and sending kids to school. I'm sure most who tested +ve have not caught it from illegal raves!
07/09/2020 17:02:00 12 5
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2531 Ibaci05 They are now judging all those terrible young adults for the audacity of wanting friends, falling in love, going to work, paying rent and sending kids to school. --- Yes we are judging you. For weeks the youth have maintained it was older folk who were irresponsible and a hindrance to beating the virus. But now it has shown the other way round you can't take it? Sucks, dont it?
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07/09/2020 16:55:50 3 1
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which has to be best for the economy, especially those who are going to be newly unemployed ?
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07/09/2020 16:55:50 13 3
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I know 2 elderly gentleman 75 & 85 who have had covid. Both had severe strokes & were in hospital, so already compromised healthwise. That’s where they caught it - in spite of all the precautions in place! They both survived with no need for medical intervention. Not all old, sick people die but sadly overweight sick people are more vulnerable. We are a fat nation & that’s why we’re worried.
07/09/2020 16:47:48 7 0
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How much madness can we bare? First of all THE LOCKDOWN 4 months of inactivity in the economy taking it to the brink. Then all of a sudden the lockdown is eased off but holidaying abroad is banned, Then, oops except that you can go to ABC on holiday. Then OOps, A&B are listed & u have to Quarantee 14 days if you've been to either, by the way D&E are open, then within the week Oops D is listed????
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07/09/2020 16:56:52 7 0
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2505. Baldeagle4travel "How much madness can we bare? " The government change the lockdown conditions in response to changes in the number of cases and their origin. You can expect tightening as cases continue to rise. This is called adaptive triggering. Unfortunately it takes a week to ten days for new infections to become new cases, so we are always two weeks behind events.
07/09/2020 16:40:21 12 12
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Let's put it in black and white. Anyone who does not wear a face mask, or observe social distancing, or regularly wash their hands, is the pandemic equivalent of those people in WW2 who refused to observe the blackout, and shone lights to guide the Luftwaffe onto their targets in London and other major UK cities. They put the lives OF EVERYONE, at risk.
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07/09/2020 16:58:18 5 11
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2472 do calm down.. more people were hurt in blackout accidents than by enemy action.This is not a deadly disease more people recover than die most shrug it off.
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07/09/2020 16:58:18 3 4
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Hospitals are virus hotspots need to close them down to stop the spread ????
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07/09/2020 16:59:00 9 2
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I had ALL the Covid symptoms stayed off as told by 111 got tested returned negative just heavy cold, my employer Marked me down absent because it wasn’t Covid. God help us.
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07/09/2020 16:59:43 12 11
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ah the mass hysteria continues
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07/09/2020 16:59:53 5 6
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All EU countries now going through a rise in infections again. Spain, France Germany, etc. All the same as UK, that deaths are not really going up much. A clear sign that the virus took most it would the first time around and all it's killing now is the odd person with underlying conditions it missed first time. Big difference now that shows it's not as deadly like people think
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07/09/2020 16:55:53 14 9
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do they not realise they might die ? and kill many other older people with conditions ? no repect, no regard . just dont care
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07/09/2020 16:56:53 20 2
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I'm afraid that this pandemic has shown that an unacceptable proportion of today's youth are irresponible and have a callous attitude towards older generations. Perhaps we should blame ourselves for spoiling each generation rather than teaching them basic morals.
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07/09/2020 16:48:18 8 4
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2490. Posted byHughEdinburgh alas your ignorance of the reality is stunning! Some doctors have been guilty of putting covid as cause for many who died of other factors but it fit an agenda! Dont let your blame culture political agenda get in the way of the reality.
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07/09/2020 17:00:36 3 3
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2509. Posted by wizzywig Blaming the health professionals, who know a lot more than idiot due Bo and Dom. If only Matt H had rolled out testing so the doctors could confirm COVID-19.
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07/09/2020 17:00:36 7 3
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Yes there are more cases but look at the context 3000 cases amoungst 66 million. It seems to be a ailment mostly effecting high density working class areas in the north, perhaps people are too friendley up north. In the south my local council area last week had 5 cases amoungst 100,000 people, I have more chance of being run over by a bus, DONT PANIC!
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jay
07/09/2020 17:00:36 13 5
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As my gran says .... and yes 89 goes shopping every day normal life her words were ..... I’d rather a few years of joy than many years of misery But anyway don’t forget to go on your local fb page and blame the local teenagers who are supposedly killing people now ..... the blame I wonder who’s turn it will be next week hmmm
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07/09/2020 17:01:38 5 1
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Throw fact the old voted in brexit to force young to leave when they wanted to stay and it’s ... fight ..... lol civil war around the corner ... young v old .. what have we become... Turning on each other like rabid animals ..... govt told people to go out and spend and were told of consequences. .as govt can’t be blamed for anything ...it’s the Young’s fault
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07/09/2020 17:01:49 8 7
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Logically whatever your beliefs about this virus (mine it's fake). If someone said to you congratulations your perfectly fit and not at risk from this virus however... You cannot see your friends, have to wear a mask everywhere you go, cannot freely enjoy a night out, go to a wedding, go on holiday and potentially lose your job. We would all risk catching the virus.
07/09/2020 16:55:28 15 5
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So unbelievably frustrating. There are masses of people 40+ socialising. Conviniently most of these have already found love, settled down, bought their homes, kept jobs. They are now judging all those terrible young adults for the audacity of wanting friends, falling in love, going to work, paying rent and sending kids to school. I'm sure most who tested +ve have not caught it from illegal raves!
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07/09/2020 17:02:00 12 5
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2531 Ibaci05 They are now judging all those terrible young adults for the audacity of wanting friends, falling in love, going to work, paying rent and sending kids to school. --- Yes we are judging you. For weeks the youth have maintained it was older folk who were irresponsible and a hindrance to beating the virus. But now it has shown the other way round you can't take it? Sucks, dont it?
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07/09/2020 17:02:52 5 3
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Increased testing results in more cases. Hand washing & not touching your face is the right thing to do. Remember ‘catch it, bin it’. Used to see people on the train sneeze/cough with no regard for others, that’s how colds spread. However, if you read some of the comments on here about the seriousness of this virus, you’d think it was the plague! Only 19 out of 20 people even show symptoms!
07/09/2020 17:05:55 4 1
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@2550 mental moment should read only 1 out of 20 show symptoms as the Deputy Medical Officer said. See that’s how lies spread!!
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jay
07/09/2020 17:04:03 15 6
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Open letter to the gov please remove all car traffic as it’s to dangerous for my child to cross ,oh can you do something about thunder & lightning too very dangerous that stuff Oh and a lifeguard for when they take a bath as lots of kids drown you know Well if we gonna do it may aswell do it properly hey
07/09/2020 16:41:35 5 8
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A third of all positive tests last week were people under 30. The vast majority will survive but they might spread it to older people including people in their own family. These include people attending illegal raves, woke people, mostly middle class and white going on BLM demos over something that's to do with the US and not us and those absurd global warming fruitcakes.
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07/09/2020 17:04:03 2 15
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2475. Robson Call me a "Global Warming fruitcake" but for most 20 to 30 year olds, in fact for most people I think, Climate Change is the up most concerning and worrying crisis that is upon us! I don't blame people for going out and having fun, if I did that would make me a hypocrite! Enjoy live before Climate Change kills many more of us! May as well now as no one bothered to listen in the 80s!
07/09/2020 17:15:52 2 5
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2552. Me I would like to add however, it doesn't exclude the fact that I believe you must wash your hands to kill the virus, and wear face coverings in shops and on transport to limit the spread, and of cause raves are stupid. But little gatherings and going to the Pub must carry on, not just to keep quality of life good, but for the economy. Climate is still the biggest issue today though!
07/09/2020 17:20:55 3 3
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2552: Enjoy life before Climate Change kills many more of us. All C-19 deaths worldwide replaced since Saturday and another 140M arrivals this year. Population growth is the real problem, but it might not fit in with the Woke narrative (“forced sterilisation - NOW!!!”)? The real players (US, China, India) know that carbon saving is a costly and worthless irrelevance...so don’t. ??
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07/09/2020 17:04:14 11 3
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What happens if we get a vaccine and people still catch covid? 40k deaths for the flu several years back - but that didn’t have an exotic name so nobody cared
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07/09/2020 17:01:14 11 4
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Government: Young people are leading to a 2nd spike Also government: You must go back to schools and offices
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07/09/2020 17:04:35 5 2
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Bolton still top of the league! \0/ We could be in the champions league next year!
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07/09/2020 17:05:05 13 2
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I only have my experience to draw on but have I seen youngsters blatantly not wearing masks in shops? deliberately not keeping social distance? mixing multiple households of youngsters? sticking two fingers up to the guidelines? - YES
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07/09/2020 17:05:25 12 7
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It's funny how the anti-Govt. luvvies can change their minds, do lots of u-turns (following hindsight) and if all else fails use good old scaremongering and conspiracy theories. Now they want to lock all the oldies up, so that they can selfishly go on holiday or have a good old pub crawl and all singing and dancing rave up. It appears that "herd immunity" is OK now, because it suits THEM!!
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Rob
07/09/2020 17:05:45 11 2
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Can the BBC please find out how many people with symptons that go for a test are positive? How many just have normal colds etc, it would be fasinating to know? Also 6 months in why no idea of where most people catch it?
07/09/2020 17:08:58 6 1
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2558 Rob Can the BBC please find out how many people with symptons that go for a test are positive? -- Are you sure? That would require some investigative journalism. Though reporting becoming alot more balanced now so I have to agree, it would be good to know the testing results.
07/09/2020 17:02:52 5 3
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Increased testing results in more cases. Hand washing & not touching your face is the right thing to do. Remember ‘catch it, bin it’. Used to see people on the train sneeze/cough with no regard for others, that’s how colds spread. However, if you read some of the comments on here about the seriousness of this virus, you’d think it was the plague! Only 19 out of 20 people even show symptoms!
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07/09/2020 17:05:55 4 1
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@2550 mental moment should read only 1 out of 20 show symptoms as the Deputy Medical Officer said. See that’s how lies spread!!
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TF
07/09/2020 17:05:39 6 9
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Oooer missus....people who face no risk wanting to live their lives rather than be miserable like the liberals....hold the front pages, alert the police, this is weally, weally sewious.
07/09/2020 17:25:41 13 4
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2560.TF Oooer missus....people who face no risk wanting to live their lives rather than be miserable like the liberals....hold the front pages, alert the police, this is weally, weally sewious. So you don't care about how your behaviour could risk the lives of your parents or grandparents?
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MHA
07/09/2020 17:06:39 11 9
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Give them prison sentences. Fines will be paid by their do-not-care parents anyway!
07/09/2020 16:55:28 14 9
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26 - don’t forget, most grandparents to have been killed by covid were because of the governments horrific policy of transferring sick people to care homes. They then have the nerve to tell us to be careful.
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07/09/2020 17:06:39 12 4
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2530 how nice 'most grandparents to have been killed by covid were because of the governments horrific policy of transferring sick people to care homes' And not in any way due to agency staff going from home to home because permanent staff stayed away in droves once a case was found.
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07/09/2020 17:07:00 7 1
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One of the reasons given at the tme for delaying UK lock down was that the public would soon tire of it and start to undermine its effectiveness. QED I think but it held longer than expected.
07/09/2020 16:49:19 4 0
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Why is the BBC presenting a statistic that is un-normalised?? There is no effort to allow for the number of people being tested, What about explaining the graph in terms of the 'four pillars'? That might tell you something about where the infection was and is most prevalent. Do a proper comparison, pillar by pillar if you can get the data.
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07/09/2020 17:07:00 16 4
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2514. Posted byGaryP "Why is the BBC presenting a statistic that is un-normalised?? " Because they want to make it look as bad as possible. They just love to have everyone living in fear.
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07/09/2020 17:07:33 3 1
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When did 'youths' become 'young people'?
07/09/2020 17:19:09 12 0
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2565 UKIPs Sounding Board "When did 'youths' become 'young people'?" When did they become youths. In my day we had children from 0-16 (compulsory school leaving age) and adults (everyone else).
ted
07/09/2020 16:47:58 13 2
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herd immunity, still the only game in town that is unless you prefer total economic disintegration that is, which quite a few seem to, not sure why, best guess, utter stupidity ?
2566
07/09/2020 17:07:33 4 8
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2507ted herd immunity, still the only game in town that is unless you prefer total economic disintegration that is, which quite a few seem to, not sure why, best guess, utter stupidity? Herd immunity was rightly abandoned very early on as there was (and still is) zero evidence that it was achievable. Prediction was it could cost 500k lives. Think common cold, ever had it more than once?
OwO
07/09/2020 17:10:24 14 9
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2566. Posted by Corbieres on Just now Herd immunity was rightly abandoned very early on as there was (and still is) zero evidence that it was achievable. Prediction was it could cost 500k lives. Think common cold, ever had it more than once? ___ There is no singular "common cold", so your example fails completely. Herd immunity is still the best solution.
2567
07/09/2020 17:07:53 11 14
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Government policies have been causing levels of the disease to rise. Such as eat out to spread Covid. Or take a trip to Barnard Castle to test your eyes. Most incompetent Government in UK democratic history.
07/09/2020 17:10:03 11 4
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2567. Posted by Rtennis21 Government policies have been causing levels of the disease to rise. Such as eat out to spread Covid - Great, can we see your evidence of this? Not got any? Thought so. Stop spreading garbage.
07/09/2020 17:13:58 2 0
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2567 Rtennis21 Or take a trip to Barnard Castle to test your eyes. Most incompetent Government in UK democratic history. --- Yeah, this approach ain't working today...
2568
07/09/2020 17:08:15 5 6
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If that graph keeps climbing Mr Hancock I would expect a second lockdown of the country around Oct/Nov.... With more funny money being printed and a further Furlough situation. All on top of Brexit???
07/09/2020 16:54:35 4 1
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Looking at the data there’s a clear difference between this (second wave?) and the first wave, especially if you look at France and Spain! Detection / infection rate is up, but deaths don’t seem to be increasing much if at all, the three week lag previously noted isn’t there this time! Clearly something is different, and it’s easy to speculate, but you can bet the authorities don’t know why!
2569
07/09/2020 17:08:15 7 0
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2529. Private Frazer Detection / infection rate is up, but deaths don’t seem to be increasing much if at all -- Deaths have always been evident. Known infection rates will have risen with testing volume. Many seem to get alarmed because they know about something they didn't previously know, despite it having been there before. And the constant news coverage doesn't exactly help.
07/09/2020 16:38:47 17 8
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I notice this slightly trivial story is getting as much coverage as a black man stabbing people in Birmingham.If he had been white it would have been headline news.
2466. byrichard dziedzicon I notice this slightly trivial story is getting as much coverage as a black man stabbing people in Birmingham.If he had been white it would have been headline news. Utter nonsense. Let me guess, you voted Brexit, hate foreigners, particularly French and Germans because you are a Patriot? Does your mum still make you a packed lunch? Removed
Rob
07/09/2020 17:05:45 11 2
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Can the BBC please find out how many people with symptons that go for a test are positive? How many just have normal colds etc, it would be fasinating to know? Also 6 months in why no idea of where most people catch it?
2571
07/09/2020 17:08:58 6 1
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2558 Rob Can the BBC please find out how many people with symptons that go for a test are positive? -- Are you sure? That would require some investigative journalism. Though reporting becoming alot more balanced now so I have to agree, it would be good to know the testing results.
2572
07/09/2020 17:09:52 13 10
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Once again, the Govt are trying to pass the blame...at the start THEY SAID “younger people have a very low chance of getting serious symptoms or being hospitalised- for those under 15 the risk is negligible” Now they point fingers at the young for behaving like.....young people. There are a lot more cases but are these serious infections?
Anyone else see the govt slight of hand here ... get young against old in battle of I’m going out oh not you are not malarkey and in the meantime they make hay in the divide and conquer stakes...... attention away from Bj and his close unit of mates destroying the Uk and everyone blaming someone else .... its like hiding in plain .. this govt is so dangerous but no one sees it. Removed
07/09/2020 17:07:53 11 14
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Government policies have been causing levels of the disease to rise. Such as eat out to spread Covid. Or take a trip to Barnard Castle to test your eyes. Most incompetent Government in UK democratic history.
2574
07/09/2020 17:10:03 11 4
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2567. Posted by Rtennis21 Government policies have been causing levels of the disease to rise. Such as eat out to spread Covid - Great, can we see your evidence of this? Not got any? Thought so. Stop spreading garbage.
07/09/2020 17:07:33 4 8
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2507ted herd immunity, still the only game in town that is unless you prefer total economic disintegration that is, which quite a few seem to, not sure why, best guess, utter stupidity? Herd immunity was rightly abandoned very early on as there was (and still is) zero evidence that it was achievable. Prediction was it could cost 500k lives. Think common cold, ever had it more than once?
2575
OwO
07/09/2020 17:10:24 14 9
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2566. Posted by Corbieres on Just now Herd immunity was rightly abandoned very early on as there was (and still is) zero evidence that it was achievable. Prediction was it could cost 500k lives. Think common cold, ever had it more than once? ___ There is no singular "common cold", so your example fails completely. Herd immunity is still the best solution.
07/09/2020 17:16:54 7 5
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@2575 Herd immunity is only an option if you can spend a couple of days at home with your bestie - paracetamol. Herd immunity is NOT an option when the disease has no seroprevalence in the UK & causes life changing consequences. This isn't the common cold. Deal with it.
2576
07/09/2020 17:10:36 7 7
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What worries me is the apportioning of blame in this way is likley to set groups of individuals against other groups this is a dangerous Virus that can and does infect all groups, hard local lockdowns is the way forward and will be the new normal as until and if a vaccine is found and at this stage that is not certain
2577
07/09/2020 17:11:18 7 1
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How close are we with Dido's App?
2578
07/09/2020 17:11:27 14 11
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Government needs to act now. Shut down the pubs and stop this ludicrous scheme that encourages people to mix in restaurants. If we dither like last time we will inevitably have something worse to deal with. It’s almost too late now. Holidays should never have been allowed. Planes caused this spread in the first place. We have learned NOTHING.
2579
07/09/2020 17:11:37 10 21
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It’s about time people got a grip, regarding covid19 More people in the uk die of sepsis than all of the cancers and flu combined They r both, something u mite get and u mite not Time to stop this nonsense Shops won’t be happy wen they’re empty in the run upto Christmas, because of this crap
07/09/2020 17:14:28 12 4
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@2579. byCoxyon It’s about time people got a grip, regarding covid19 More people in the uk die of sepsis than all of the cancers and flu combined They r both, something u mite get and u mite not Time to stop this nonsense Shops won’t be happy wen they’re empty in the run upto Christmas, because of this crap --- With the state of your grammar I'm going to presume you're still at school.
2580
07/09/2020 17:11:58 9 31
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Shut up hancock. your government's useless over continued reaction to this 'pandemic' has caused significantly more pain, suffering and death than this trumped up cold ever could.
07/09/2020 17:13:47 8 3
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2580. Ian Sankey ''Shut up hancock.'' Shut up Sankey.
2581
07/09/2020 17:12:19 9 4
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I have two AS level wonder kids going back to school tomorrow ! What they don't realise is I am having the locks changed. Boris and his mates can find them somewhere new to stay ! If I let them back in I'll be dead by Xmas ! Then again maybe we can split the house up into two mini-homes ! Problem is there is only one toilet ! Covid ...........the gift that keeps giving !
2582
07/09/2020 17:12:19 4 1
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And there is proof that covid is mutating in humans as well..... Just like the 'common cold'
07/09/2020 17:15:52 1 0
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@2582 kevin "And there is proof..." And yet you haven't provided said proof. Can you?
07/09/2020 17:18:28 8 1
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2582 kevin And there is proof that covid is mutating in humans as well..... Just like the 'common cold' --- Yeah, it's making the woke lose their special powers!
2583
07/09/2020 17:12:41 17 3
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I work in a Uni and sadly the students just dont care or think about it. Same are fantastic but many just shrug and say "well its not gonna hurt me" It's the ME bit that stings to the rest of us.
2584
07/09/2020 17:13:14 13 4
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Government analysis seems to ignore the illegal landings at Dover and the threat that is posed to areas of distribution
07/09/2020 17:11:58 9 31
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Shut up hancock. your government's useless over continued reaction to this 'pandemic' has caused significantly more pain, suffering and death than this trumped up cold ever could.
2585
07/09/2020 17:13:47 8 3
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2580. Ian Sankey ''Shut up hancock.'' Shut up Sankey.
07/09/2020 17:24:30 9 10
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2585. Posted bypragueimpon Shut up Sankey. No - shup up bypragueimpon. when the bill lands for the hundreds of billions that this over reaction is costing and the austerity and tax rises which'll ensure start to bite ... you're going to wonder whether it was all worth it for what is basically a weak cold that 99.7% get over from just fine.
07/09/2020 17:07:53 11 14
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Government policies have been causing levels of the disease to rise. Such as eat out to spread Covid. Or take a trip to Barnard Castle to test your eyes. Most incompetent Government in UK democratic history.
2586
07/09/2020 17:13:58 2 0
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2567 Rtennis21 Or take a trip to Barnard Castle to test your eyes. Most incompetent Government in UK democratic history. --- Yeah, this approach ain't working today...
07/09/2020 17:11:37 10 21
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It’s about time people got a grip, regarding covid19 More people in the uk die of sepsis than all of the cancers and flu combined They r both, something u mite get and u mite not Time to stop this nonsense Shops won’t be happy wen they’re empty in the run upto Christmas, because of this crap
2587
07/09/2020 17:14:28 12 4
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@2579. byCoxyon It’s about time people got a grip, regarding covid19 More people in the uk die of sepsis than all of the cancers and flu combined They r both, something u mite get and u mite not Time to stop this nonsense Shops won’t be happy wen they’re empty in the run upto Christmas, because of this crap --- With the state of your grammar I'm going to presume you're still at school.
2588
Rob
07/09/2020 17:15:09 9 3
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There is a significant risk to 'young people' from getting CV19 - not so much their health, but their jobs and job prospects It's reckoned (by economists) that wearing a mask saves the economy ~£30 per day - because it reduces the need for further economy damaging lockdowns So if young people don't care about the health risks (fair enough I guess) they should care about their livelihoods.
2589
07/09/2020 17:15:41 3 6
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Older people may have health issues and find masks difficult, as have I . Masks MAY help but there is no hard and fast evidence. Washing your hands is proved to work, stop getting on at young or old 're masks, our numbers went down when we weren't wearing masks so the wearing of them is questionable. We are all in this together and are responsible to protect ourselves and be sensible, back off
07/09/2020 17:12:19 4 1
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And there is proof that covid is mutating in humans as well..... Just like the 'common cold'
2590
07/09/2020 17:15:52 1 0
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@2582 kevin "And there is proof..." And yet you haven't provided said proof. Can you?
07/09/2020 17:04:03 2 15
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2475. Robson Call me a "Global Warming fruitcake" but for most 20 to 30 year olds, in fact for most people I think, Climate Change is the up most concerning and worrying crisis that is upon us! I don't blame people for going out and having fun, if I did that would make me a hypocrite! Enjoy live before Climate Change kills many more of us! May as well now as no one bothered to listen in the 80s!
2591
07/09/2020 17:15:52 2 5
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2552. Me I would like to add however, it doesn't exclude the fact that I believe you must wash your hands to kill the virus, and wear face coverings in shops and on transport to limit the spread, and of cause raves are stupid. But little gatherings and going to the Pub must carry on, not just to keep quality of life good, but for the economy. Climate is still the biggest issue today though!
2592
07/09/2020 17:15:52 10 12
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These young ones are ruining our opportunity to get rid of this virus. Inconsiderate selfish kids should be ashamed of themselves
07/09/2020 17:32:12 7 11
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2592Truth hurts "selfish kids should be ashamed of themselves" Is that the "young ones" (14-18) forced back to school, compelled to mass in close proximity with other "young ones", with NO social distancing or any other safety measures? Or was it the "young ones" (18-22) forced back to colleges and universities with the same lack of restrictions? Meanwhile the HoC remains ultra-safe.
2593
07/09/2020 17:16:13 3 8
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It is a bizarre, an incompetent government without a clear agenda just blaming the young people. They opened the schools without proper preparations and without proper rules and now they are just talking nonsense,
07/09/2020 17:37:34 7 6
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2593. Hoshang They opened the schools without proper preparations and without proper rules and now they are just talking nonsense, -- That's probably why most intelligent people have long since given up taking them seriously.
2594
07/09/2020 17:16:54 12 7
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No surprise. The snowflake self entitled little gits don't give a toss. Fine the little sods and take away their iPads.
OwO
07/09/2020 17:10:24 14 9
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2566. Posted by Corbieres on Just now Herd immunity was rightly abandoned very early on as there was (and still is) zero evidence that it was achievable. Prediction was it could cost 500k lives. Think common cold, ever had it more than once? ___ There is no singular "common cold", so your example fails completely. Herd immunity is still the best solution.
2595
07/09/2020 17:16:54 7 5
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@2575 Herd immunity is only an option if you can spend a couple of days at home with your bestie - paracetamol. Herd immunity is NOT an option when the disease has no seroprevalence in the UK & causes life changing consequences. This isn't the common cold. Deal with it.
2596
07/09/2020 17:17:04 4 8
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All those moaning about seeing people with no masks when shopping . Why are you in the shops then in the first place if you are that worried. Order online ! I believe you are loving this drama. Absolutely loving it.
07/09/2020 17:21:22 10 4
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2596 Why O Why 'All those moaning about seeing people with no masks when shopping . Why are you in the shops then in the first place if you are that worried. Order online !' Not everyone can afford to order online. The rule is wear a mask in a shop - why don't those who wish to ignore this law 'order online'?
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07/09/2020 10:54:48 87 186
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The Snowflakes are entitled as always
2597
07/09/2020 17:17:14 17 0
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1 kid at school gets a positive test, the entire year are sent home for a fortnight. If they’re primary school then their parents have to go home too. On zero pay. And their employer can’t cope either with unreliable staff. It’s unsustainable
07/09/2020 17:12:19 4 1
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And there is proof that covid is mutating in humans as well..... Just like the 'common cold'
2598
07/09/2020 17:18:28 8 1
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2582 kevin And there is proof that covid is mutating in humans as well..... Just like the 'common cold' --- Yeah, it's making the woke lose their special powers!
2599
07/09/2020 17:18:59 6 0
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Nearly 3,000 new cases and three deaths... Gosh, it’s a scary thing this virus.
146
07/09/2020 11:11:37 727 67
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Society completely split. Young vs Old. Black vs White. North vs South. Leave vs Remain. Rules observers vs non observers. Welcome to Great Britain.
2600
07/09/2020 17:18:59 1 1
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@146 Hey, warned you about this whole "personal is political" thing.