Key evidence on opening schools revealed
22/05/2020 | news | health | 2,510
Sources say any risk to pupils is very small but any activity outside the home has risk.
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22/05/2020 15:24:08 48 23
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It's spreading the virus to grandparents which is the worry.
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22/05/2020 15:33:42 132 15
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1. Posted by cwrwda on 6 minutes ago It's spreading the virus to grandparents which is the worry. — Are you letting your kids mix with the elderly? I’m not and I won’t when they go to school until advised otherwise. Still let stop kids having formal education. Education at home is on par with home haircuts. There is a reason it takes training to be a teacher.
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22/05/2020 15:25:08 12 28
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Talk about convenient timing.
22/05/2020 20:13:52 4 2
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2 sets of siblings who's front line parents became I'll & subsequently tested positive and then pulled their kids out of the local school.This has happened over the last 2 weeks in a class of just 7!
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22/05/2020 15:25:08 38 25
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Well the hold up appears to be the government. If the infrastructure is in place to track, test and trace, it appears we would feel better and safer. I think September is more logical. I don’t want my son sitting in a circle in a room on his own doing downloaded worksheets whilst a non specialist teacher observes. That’s not a beneficial experience to what he’s getting at home
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22/05/2020 16:07:44 16 32
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3 under 15 deaths and yet the teachers and the left don't want the schools to open Pathetic
22/05/2020 23:07:00 5 16
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3 out of 36,000......children should be back at school. The teachers are at low risk. It’s those that don’t work (retired age group) who suffer a lot more than the working age groups. Easy decision. Should 2,500 people loose their jobs or should a 95 year old live a few months longer? Tough call but has to be made.
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22/05/2020 15:29:19 79 25
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@4 Well know by who? I have up teaching in 1999 when working 80+ hours per week How many do you do. I certainly was never accused of being lazy and like my friends and colleagues worked incredibly hard.
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4. Posted byMassive Squirrel Teachers are generally well known to be lazy. ----- What absolute nonsense. And my partner (SEND teacher) is still working as a key worker. You disgrace yourself.
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22/05/2020 16:14:49 4 0
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@4 Get the dunces cap on .........again
22/05/2020 21:09:35 6 1
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4. Massive Squirrel Teachers are generally well known to be lazy --- You're a massive something that's for sure. 'Squirrel' isn't the adjective I'd use though
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22/05/2020 15:23:08 92 270
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This is the lazy union members wanting more time off. Stop their pay we say
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22/05/2020 15:27:28 70 18
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If you read all the evidence, it contradicts itself Just more nonsense Nobody wanting to take responsibility
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22/05/2020 15:27:28 79 149
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The Trade Unions and other lefties don't care about anything as boring as actual science. Based on politics, they've made up what passes for their minds and they aren't going to change views now whatever the studies say.
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22/05/2020 15:27:28 29 9
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Guess what? None of this makes any difference anyway. Schools will still open as they were going to before. Amazingly, we were always going to do what is best for the children. Oh, and by the way, the government advice is not to provide work for children who are not in school when schools reopen to year groups. We will ignore that too, again doing what is best for the children.
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22/05/2020 18:01:12 9 0
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8 pupils to science lab with correct social distancing and abiding by all legal requirements. Those 8 cannot move around to other classrooms. Parents, please don't call us when your child complains of back pain after sitting on a stool all day.
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22/05/2020 15:28:19 295 54
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My kid’s school has just informed that they are opening on 8th June. Most parents are happy to send their children back to school in my child’s year group.
23/05/2020 15:55:43 4 1
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9 different options for re-opening schools were suggested to the government by SAGE. They didn't choose any of them.
Lazy teachers not wanting to go back to work me thinks! Removed
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22/05/2020 15:30:50 12 7
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10 Common Sense Politics Lazy trolls wanting attention methinks...
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22/05/2020 15:28:19 35 16
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So when are the elite private schools going back?
22/05/2020 21:50:28 5 2
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11. Posted by Mike D "So when are the elite private schools going back?" September
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22/05/2020 15:28:19 19 7
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So much advice, everyone has an opinion, but not too much agreement Seems like scientists are just like everyone else
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22/05/2020 15:28:39 35 11
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As soon as the schools go back it’ll be lockdown in name only
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22/05/2020 15:28:39 37 12
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So in the first paragraphs a statement is made, backed up and then pretty much objected to. Great journalism guys.
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22/05/2020 15:28:59 53 94
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If other key worker unions were as opportunistic and mercenary as the teaching unions, the UK would have already collapsed.
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22/05/2020 15:29:19 79 25
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@4 Well know by who? I have up teaching in 1999 when working 80+ hours per week How many do you do. I certainly was never accused of being lazy and like my friends and colleagues worked incredibly hard.
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22/05/2020 15:29:50 41 73
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I am with the government on this one and think the Unions need to be more helpful and less critical of everything put before them.
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22/05/2020 15:27:50 61 137
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teaching unions using covid as an excuse to have a fight with the government. never mind the kids educations. or the teaching profession being in a LOWER risk group for contracting covid than everybody else.
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22/05/2020 15:29:50 35 74
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Trade unions doing teachers a disservice in the long term !!!
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22/05/2020 15:29:50 115 62
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One of my colleagues in school, who had been in each day since lockdown was diagnosed with Covid-19 two weeks ago. Teachers saw significant numbers of students ill before lockdown. Attendance nationally was very low due to illness. You can't tell me it is safe for adults. We came out of lockdown too quickly and should wait. Online working is not easy for teachers. It is no holiday.
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22/05/2020 15:29:50 150 27
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This still won’t be enough for some. I think they should ban children from supermarkets to keep them even safer. I’m sure this may change some parents time though.
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22/05/2020 15:29:50 26 22
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OK, how many children under 15 die in a typical Covid-19-free 9 week period? The threat really is insignificant. Meanwhile the same kids who might just possibly contract Covid-19 - or fall under the school bus - are missing out on their education, and we're going to need educated young people to rebuild the economy for decades post-(Covid-19 & Brexit).
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22/05/2020 15:30:10 82 191
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95% of parents are HAPPY with sending kids back, do not believe the media lies people! end lockdown, cancel furlough, GET BRITAIN MOVING AGAIN!
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22/05/2020 15:41:16 15 4
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23. StopAndThink "95% of parents are HAPPY with sending kids back" _ Did you know that 78.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
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22/05/2020 15:54:34 2 1
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@23 Not sure where you get that data from. Our infant school is going to reopen early in June but a parent questionnaire showed only 25% of parents were willing to send there child back to school.
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22/05/2020 16:03:10 10 5
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23 StopAndThink 95% of parents are HAPPY with sending kids back, do not believe the media lies people! end lockdown, cancel furlough, GET BRITAIN MOVING AGAIN! ~ 122% of people pluck a figure from the air when posting fake data. Then use CAPITALS to make a point. Remarkably they think it will be persuasive - and, sadly, it appeals to those in their own echo chamber; not others.
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22/05/2020 17:35:47 7 4
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@23 '95% of parents are HAPPY with sending kids back, do not believe the media lies people! end lockdown, cancel furlough, GET BRITAIN MOVING AGAIN!' And the other five%, like my daughter may be pregnant...have you thought of that? She will not 'GET BRITAIN MOVING AGAIN' until there is ZERO deaths! GOT IT! Now show respect to the vulnerable; after all you will be one day in the future I'm sure.
22/05/2020 21:34:09 10 8
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@23 StopAndThink, "95% of parents are HAPPY with sending kids back. ... GET BRITAIN MOVING AGAIN." How many of those 95% of parents are virologists? I'm guessing very close or equal to NONE. A school in England which has been teaching children of key workers has just closed until all schoolchildren and staff are tested for Coronavirus. A second wave will cripple this country for decades.
22/05/2020 21:54:40 7 0
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23. Posted by StopAndThink "95% of parents are HAPPY with sending kids back" Oh no they're not https://www.itv.com/news/2020-05-22/more-than-half-of-parents-won-t-send-their-children-back-to-school-exclusive-itv-news-poll-reveals/
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22/05/2020 15:30:10 107 47
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With 15 kids victims of the virus out of possible 60.000 people it is pretty clear that opening schools is the right thing to do. Is it safe? No, nothing is safe 100% in this world. But we do not lock ourselves in homes afraid of crossing the street. Is life in lockdown even worth living in the long term? It would something out of Black Mirror.
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22/05/2020 15:30:30 495 87
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I despise those people who "trash" teachers. They really have no grip reality. Probably none too bright either. I have no connection with the education system and I am not a teacher. They couldn't pay me enough
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22/05/2020 15:30:30 33 18
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Waste of time and potentially dangerous sending children back now. Get the Education Authority to give support to teachers so they can properly organise online learning and even send teaching packs out to pupils if need be. Extend the term so that the summer holidays is only 4 weeks. That will soften the blow to these kid's education and hopefully by September we will have a clearer picture.
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4. Posted byMassive Squirrel Teachers are generally well known to be lazy. ----- What absolute nonsense. And my partner (SEND teacher) is still working as a key worker. You disgrace yourself.
Lazy teachers not wanting to go back to work me thinks! Removed
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22/05/2020 15:30:50 12 7
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10 Common Sense Politics Lazy trolls wanting attention methinks...
Typical labour luvvie teachers don't want to work. Rest of us do. Disgusting. Removed
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22/05/2020 15:31:10 13 5
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It is just my opinion, but I think personal hygiene and cleaning surfaces is just as important if not more important than social distancing.
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22/05/2020 15:31:31 7 18
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Parents who are using the taxpayer sample of private schools are most welcome to send their kids private. Stop free loading on taxpayer money!!
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22/05/2020 15:34:02 19 12
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31. Posted byAnn "Parents who are using the taxpayer sample of private schools are most welcome to sen.d their kids private. Stop free loading on taxpayer money!!" Before that we'll withdraw charitable status from the private school system. Seems more than fair.
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22/05/2020 15:31:51 239 64
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The idiots on here demeaning the teachers as lazy are probably not parents with kids in school so ignore them. As a parent I talk to my boy's teachers every week . They are working at the school teaching the children of key workers. I'll be keeping my boys off until the start of the new school year. By then we should have a far better handle on this virus and how to mitigate it's effects.
23/05/2020 03:43:35 2 4
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32. Posted Dave K They are working at the school teaching the children of key workers. I'll be keeping my boys off until the start of the new school year. By then we should have a far better handle on this virus and how to mitigate it's effects ---- I won't bet on it. Every pandemic lasts more than 24 months! And that's where the dilemma lies....
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22/05/2020 15:32:01 548 113
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Teachers work long hours for low pay, unlike the feckless yobs bawling at them for being 'lazy'
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A tape of biden leaked PROVING he did what TRUMP was accused - Biden witheld 1bn in funding till the prosecutor was sacked whom was investigating his son in Ukriane . The phone calls prove it.. the BBC instead of reporting on that, report on trump taking off his mask so the reporters didnt get a picture (which someone got) BUT BBC RUN WITH A GOSSIP MAG STORY AND IGNORE A MAJOR NEWS STORY Removed
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22/05/2020 15:32:31 21 12
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Children are just as likely to transmit viruses as anyone else. It’s got nothing to do with which age group has the least mortalities
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22/05/2020 15:32:31 4 7
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Whats is the lessons from Greece & Singapore????
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22/05/2020 15:33:01 18 30
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Yet again the BBC find another unnamed source to undermine the science and the government and the unions showing their utter defiance to everything. Shameful media really.
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22/05/2020 15:33:01 435 65
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“Teachers are generally well known to be lazy.” Are they? Teachers are expected to be teachers, parents and social workers in all one go. Unless you are a teacher and you are basing this sweeping statement on your own laziness, I suggest you keep your divisive and inaccurate assertions to yourself. Teachers want to teach their students.
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22/05/2020 15:33:32 22 34
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So the risk is not zero... So it's not safe then!
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39. Posted by Sean So the risk is not zero...So it's not safe then! ------------- Neither is life. There is no such thing as zero risk. Risk from asteroid impact, bits falling from aircraft, crossing the road, getting up, not getting up, breathing in, not breathing in.
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22/05/2020 15:33:42 36 11
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If the government aren't taking the advice of Sage in its entirety, cherry-picking what they want to use, they are risking the public. We need transparency. This has nothing to do with whether people think teachers are being lazy. From experience they work hard (probably harder than some commentators here). And no, I'm not a teacher, but I'm homeschooling my kids and appreciate how tough it is.
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22/05/2020 15:33:42 11 2
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Many prep schools will go back on the same basis of YR/Y1 and Y6 (despite Y6 not being the final year for transfer from prep to senior). There is a huge difference in the online provision of private school to the majority of state schools, not to mention likelihood of pupils having home access to quiet learning space and IT and parents' educational background to be able to support home learning.
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22/05/2020 15:24:08 48 23
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It's spreading the virus to grandparents which is the worry.
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22/05/2020 15:33:42 132 15
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1. Posted by cwrwda on 6 minutes ago It's spreading the virus to grandparents which is the worry. — Are you letting your kids mix with the elderly? I’m not and I won’t when they go to school until advised otherwise. Still let stop kids having formal education. Education at home is on par with home haircuts. There is a reason it takes training to be a teacher.
22/05/2020 19:12:14 1 3
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@ 42 Clio200 "Education at home is on par with home haircuts" Be careful with throwaway assumptions. I embarrassed myself a long time ago making your claim. Here in USA, homeschooled kids outperform. Still unclear by how much, since very interested parents help any kid's education. I don't have research to hand on other countries, but it's unlikely to be much different—I assume ?
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22/05/2020 15:34:02 14 13
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The risk is supposed to be low. How low? I do not trust advice based on a guess where the "experts" who are guessing won't even hazard a guess at the risk. The children and their families will be put at a risk where the expert opinion is that the risk is low but they cannot put a figure on it. Will this mean a child will suffer a sore throat, or will we see multiple deaths?
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22/05/2020 15:34:02 50 20
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There is absolutely NO WAY children, especially infants and primary, are going to socially distance. Look at the way measles charged through Wales in particular last year and that was just the children not vaccinated! Schools are hotbeds of germs, viruses and they all go through the children like wildfire. Ask any parent!
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Parents who are using the taxpayer sample of private schools are most welcome to send their kids private. Stop free loading on taxpayer money!!
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22/05/2020 15:34:02 19 12
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31. Posted byAnn "Parents who are using the taxpayer sample of private schools are most welcome to sen.d their kids private. Stop free loading on taxpayer money!!" Before that we'll withdraw charitable status from the private school system. Seems more than fair.
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22/05/2020 15:41:16 4 3
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45. Posted byjoseramirez "Before that we'll withdraw charitable status from the private school system. Seems more than fair" ... good idea ... then all those parents who can no longer afford the fees will send them to the local comprehensive ... and spend the cash on a new car or holiday
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22/05/2020 15:34:22 21 9
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There cannot be a more emotive subject than to discuss the risks with children or the elderly especially with the horrendous handling of obvious risks with inadequately trained or protected staff caring for older folk. 50% of parents are very nervous of sending kids back to school in June. Close schools until September take time to prepare, rushing is more about getting parents back to work, why?
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22/05/2020 15:34:32 398 71
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People sitting at home, with time to post on these boards, calling teachers lazy. Yep, that's the state of the UK right now.
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22/05/2020 15:34:52 16 10
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Stats & reassurance is all very good but who will instill the confidence in parents mind that their child would be safe at schools & would not get infected & bring this illness home. If the kid gets it, parents will get it anyway as kids stick to their parents all the time. Yes, the risk might be small but the "what if" factor is too scary as who wants to loose their child or vice versa.
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22/05/2020 15:35:13 251 42
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I wonder how many of these people who claim teachers are lazy etc, are getting on home schooling their kids. Then consider how they would cope with 25 plus kids. Vast majority of teachers are dedicated in my experience and I would not do their job for no matter how much they paid me. I think most of the problem are the parents who think their child can do no wrong, support teachers.
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22/05/2020 15:35:43 16 19
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... good grief BBC ... do you exist only to show doubt and uncertainty and to chuck sand in the Govts gearbox? ... SAGE are the advisory group, not the BBC ... you role is to present the advice so we know on what basis the govt are making decisions, not cast doubt and uncertainty on what they advise
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22/05/2020 15:35:43 12 7
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I have a seive in my kitchen drawer with fewer holes in it than this. Sulk and Co. really want science with so many unknowns as the basis for us putting kids back in school?
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22/05/2020 15:40:26 42 127
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51.pim56 "In the real world teachers work 60 hours a week and spend holidays marking and planning except for maybe 3 weeks in the summer. Teachers are always stressed and exhausted so lets just clear that up shall we." You either know very few teachers...or the ones you do know are not very good at their job.
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22/05/2020 15:36:03 18 33
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"very, very small" Are all you frightened people getting this? You take a risk every time you get on a plane and cross the road, but you still do it. As far as schools are concerned they should reopen as before the panic. AND A-level students should have their exams rescheduled for July, instead of being CHEATED out of all their hard work.
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22/05/2020 15:39:35 4 5
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@52 I'm with you one of the greatest risks is being born!
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All those downl iking the Biden tapes So its more news worthy that trump didnt want a picture of him wearing a mask... than someone running for president being found of doing WHAT THEY TRIED TO IMPEACH TRUMP OF? MY GOD - THE DOUBLE STANDARD Removed
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22/05/2020 15:36:54 91 29
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In the real world teachers work 60 hours a week and spend holidays marking and planning except for maybe 3 weeks in the summer. Teachers are always stressed and exhausted so lets just clear that up shall we.
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22/05/2020 15:37:04 25 13
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“ 95% of parents are HAPPY with sending kids back, do not believe the media lies people!” Or your made up stats. I sent my lad to school up to 2 days before they were closed. He had 6/30 in his class at that stage as already confidence in the government was gone. It seems to be Tory Toffs wanting the wage slaves back or chavs wanting shot of their kids making all the noise.
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22/05/2020 15:38:04 11 19
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I'm on minimum wage having to go to my indoor place of work, full of adults and kids paying no attention to my personal space. If I show symptoms, 14 days off, back to work. Time to end the furlough and get back to work. Respect Covid-19, not live in fear of it.
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22/05/2020 15:44:38 9 3
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@56. Colin "Respect Covid-19, not live in fear of it." Sure, and Covid will respect you in return. And your children.
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Come on teachers if you really are key workers... get back to work
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22/05/2020 15:41:47 34 9
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57. We are working. I started at 6am today to ensure I had got my student's online work marked and up to date before the half-term break, to plan revision and online assessments that will inform what we teach them next year, and to develop resources and set work for A level students. You Daily Mail readers have absolutely no grasp of reality do you?
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22/05/2020 15:55:55 8 8
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57. Posted byBenjaminon 13 minutes ago Come on teachers if you really are key workers... get back to work ---- dont shame our key workers with teachers im glad there in that job and not doing what key workers like nhs supermarket staff delivery drivers binmen etc are doing
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22/05/2020 15:38:14 11 5
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"Sage also stressed the next steps by politicians must be logical to keep parents on board" Politicians & Logic are mutually exclusive & an oxymoron Politicians are the fools that present endless slogans and sound bites They are also the fools that have waved through, tens of thousands of travellers from corona virus hotspots into the country Logic from self satisfied politicians ha!
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22/05/2020 15:38:25 23 4
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As we are all in this together it could be re-assuring to know when the cabinet ministers' children are going back to school. Nearly all of them are at public/private schools and the most expensive of those schools have already announced they won't be going back until September.
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22/05/2020 15:38:45 16 14
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Has anyone actually noticed. For the last week or more over half deaths are in care homes. Hospital cases/deaths have plummeted. My own cynical view is most people who died caught this in hospital or care homes, very few “in the community”. Schools are safe, same as approx 99.999% of locations. Just don’t go to hospital/care home.
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22/05/2020 15:38:45 11 9
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Proofs are becoming clearer by the day, that younger persons are the vehicle for the virus, which make ill older ones. This is why mass testing is essential for a correct reopening of society. Yesterday, Gov. Cuomo in NY said he is waiting for more info about the circulatory disease which is affecting an increasing number of youngs in the U.S. - hundreds of them - before reopening of schools.
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22/05/2020 15:42:47 16 1
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61 Light "Proofs are becoming clearer by the day, that younger persons are the vehicle for the virus" Obviously you've been looking in strange places? Increasingly it looks like they are less likely to spread it but that evidence is not conclusive and R is falling in Scandinavia where schools are back - stop making things up
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22/05/2020 15:38:55 14 0
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Life is thwarted with risks, schools have known for weeks that some children should return, what have schools been doing during that time? Surely preparations should have been started then instead of waiting for information that has been in the public domain for weeks. It should be head teachers who make the decision that their school is safe for children and staff not the media.
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22/05/2020 15:44:28 16 4
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62 what have schools been doing during that time? Surely preparations should have been started then instead of waiting for information that has been in the public domain for weeks. I would invite you to come and read the 20 or so documents that we have produced to open our school up. And then the govt change their advice daily.
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22/05/2020 15:38:55 24 5
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Name calling and tribal politics does not help The evidence is published. Having schools open in this way is not unreasonable. Arguing over nuances does't help public opinion - just accept leadership on this? As for alternate SAGE - are they frustrated wanabes? What does half the low risk mean? 0.01% down to 0.005%? What is the social impact? They're doing nothing for the standing of science
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22/05/2020 15:39:05 7 1
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Of course there are no guarantees that opening schools is safe. Nor that it would be any safer if it was left until September after the summer holiday season. However, the first chart, which gives the number of deaths by age group, is pretty pointless, unless we also know the number of people in each group.
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22/05/2020 15:39:05 114 15
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I do wonder if some of the people commenting on here slating Teachers actually spent much time in a school in their youth?
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65. Posted by BSman I do wonder if some of the people commenting on here slating Teachers actually spent much time in a school in their youth? --------------- 13 years like most........ Seemed to work OK with ONE teacher, 30 kids and no extra 'pretendy teacher helper hangers on'.
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22/05/2020 15:39:35 11 5
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Just been for a walk. Saw teenagers and those a little younger in groups freely socialising. Send them back. Their naive / innocent parents are clueless about what they are really doing - one group had been in the local stream and were sharing a towel...
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22/05/2020 15:36:03 18 33
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"very, very small" Are all you frightened people getting this? You take a risk every time you get on a plane and cross the road, but you still do it. As far as schools are concerned they should reopen as before the panic. AND A-level students should have their exams rescheduled for July, instead of being CHEATED out of all their hard work.
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22/05/2020 15:39:35 4 5
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@52 I'm with you one of the greatest risks is being born!
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22/05/2020 15:40:16 357 42
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I am a teacher. I am the polar opposite of lazy! I have worked long hours since and before 22nd March when my role was altered. There are still students in school from 8.30am until 6pm. Schools have never closed. They are open for key workers children and others. I teach online lessons, record video lessons, mark, feedback, phone parents, plan schemes, attend meetings,...the list goes on.
23/05/2020 08:38:38 1 1
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@68 There will always be exceptions to the rule but does not apply to too many and @9 How can they do it it when unions sa no and vast majority of teachers say no - maybe some more of their commitment needed.
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22/05/2020 15:33:32 22 34
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So the risk is not zero... So it's not safe then!
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39. Posted by Sean So the risk is not zero...So it's not safe then! ------------- Neither is life. There is no such thing as zero risk. Risk from asteroid impact, bits falling from aircraft, crossing the road, getting up, not getting up, breathing in, not breathing in.
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22/05/2020 15:44:28 6 5
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69 Bill The point is when - not if - children die from this, our "thoughts & prayers are with the families at this time" will not wash. We know how deadly this virus can be. Not for all...but 36,000 unfortunately know for certain. Why not wait until September to restart & see if this country has got a sustainable falling rate of deaths. At the moment, we haven't.
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22/05/2020 15:40:26 9 6
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Evidence: Just look at the Universities that have the best scientists ... they are waiting until September schools will need to re-open as some point ... 1st June is too soon ... but schools will need to get ready before the end of term ... otherwise no one will know what to do in September
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22/05/2020 15:49:51 2 1
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70. Smithy4U You are talking complete rubbish! Most university students don't live at home, unlike school kids. This makes the logistics of having them back a lot harder. That's the reason. It's got absolutely nothing to do with safety.
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I have a seive in my kitchen drawer with fewer holes in it than this. Sulk and Co. really want science with so many unknowns as the basis for us putting kids back in school?
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51.pim56 "In the real world teachers work 60 hours a week and spend holidays marking and planning except for maybe 3 weeks in the summer. Teachers are always stressed and exhausted so lets just clear that up shall we." You either know very few teachers...or the ones you do know are not very good at their job.
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71. delrichy You either know very few teachers...or the ones you do know are not very good at their job. == I know more people who have left the teaching profession as they were unable to cope with the demands than I do current teachers.. a lot is asked of them. People attacking teachers on here should state their own profession before doing so..
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22/05/2020 16:00:38 18 6
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@71 delrichy So someone who works hard must be bad at their job. Sounds like the manifesto of a lazy b'stard to me. Take a look at yourself before you criticise teachers you don't know.
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@71 are you on crack?
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22/05/2020 15:34:02 19 12
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31. Posted byAnn "Parents who are using the taxpayer sample of private schools are most welcome to sen.d their kids private. Stop free loading on taxpayer money!!" Before that we'll withdraw charitable status from the private school system. Seems more than fair.
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45. Posted byjoseramirez "Before that we'll withdraw charitable status from the private school system. Seems more than fair" ... good idea ... then all those parents who can no longer afford the fees will send them to the local comprehensive ... and spend the cash on a new car or holiday
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22/05/2020 15:30:10 82 191
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95% of parents are HAPPY with sending kids back, do not believe the media lies people! end lockdown, cancel furlough, GET BRITAIN MOVING AGAIN!
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22/05/2020 15:41:16 15 4
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23. StopAndThink "95% of parents are HAPPY with sending kids back" _ Did you know that 78.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
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22/05/2020 15:41:26 18 5
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Government paid scientists “safe to open schools” Independent scientists “not safe to open schools” “We are guided by the science” is really “we are guided by the science which will give the evidence we want”
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22/05/2020 15:41:26 11 5
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A vague article in some respects, but clearer than some I've seen recently. Basically young children at low risk, but school staff over 45 are at much greater risk. TBH if I was a parent, I would consider the those health risks to older staff for the greater good, and reconsider in September.
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22/05/2020 15:41:37 11 6
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So the government was giving 7 scenarios by SAGE for the return of schools and followed none of them. So much for following the science! The government was also told that the next steps must be logical and keep parents involved. Scientists fault here. This government is incapable of doing anything logically or communicating clearly and effectively to anyone.
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22/05/2020 15:31:37 11 9
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The lazy Mail readers lazily spouting opinions. It's generally well known that the people who spout such rubbish would prefer home schooling to continue to remove their offspring from possible teacher contamination.
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22/05/2020 15:33:37 4 0
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The article is wrong. It makes no mention of years 10 and 12 also going in. Ok limited numbers but schools are planning this and are starting from June 1st.
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Ann
22/05/2020 15:41:47 16 4
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If schools are not safe for kids then kids shouldn’t be in supermarkets, parks, beaches and streets. Keep them locked in till september
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22/05/2020 15:38:04 61 172
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Come on teachers if you really are key workers... get back to work
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22/05/2020 15:41:47 34 9
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57. We are working. I started at 6am today to ensure I had got my student's online work marked and up to date before the half-term break, to plan revision and online assessments that will inform what we teach them next year, and to develop resources and set work for A level students. You Daily Mail readers have absolutely no grasp of reality do you?
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22/05/2020 15:42:07 11 6
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Leave it until the new school year in September. Not worth all the bother with only one half term at most remaining. Plenty of time then to see how things progress and to get everything ready. Many schools including the one where my wife works gave all their PPE away to local hospitals.
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22/05/2020 15:43:58 7 16
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81. Posted byTruthsayeron Just now Leave it until the new school year in September. Not worth all the bother with only one half term at most remaining. Plenty of time then to see how things progress and to get everything ready. Many schools including the one where my wife works gave all their PPE away to local hospitals. - you think teachers will give up summer hols to get ready for september
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22/05/2020 15:42:17 19 12
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Kids are safe but schools will become a transit system for the virus to travel between familys and onto the vulnerable. Just wait until September.
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22/05/2020 15:42:47 14 23
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Your more likely to get run over going to school than Covid-19, come on teachers time to step up and follow the NHS lead and do your bit to get the country going again- we'll even give you a little clap once a week.
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Can anyone tell me why 5/6 year olds are the first to go back?? Why not 7 year olds or 9 year olds? What is the logic behind sending 5 years old and 10 years old back first?
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84. Posted by Ummpa Lummpa Probably because its those year groups that will be changing schools - Infants to Juniors and Juniors to High School - they will have lots to be informed about and cannot wait until September!
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22/05/2020 15:38:45 11 9
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Proofs are becoming clearer by the day, that younger persons are the vehicle for the virus, which make ill older ones. This is why mass testing is essential for a correct reopening of society. Yesterday, Gov. Cuomo in NY said he is waiting for more info about the circulatory disease which is affecting an increasing number of youngs in the U.S. - hundreds of them - before reopening of schools.
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61 Light "Proofs are becoming clearer by the day, that younger persons are the vehicle for the virus" Obviously you've been looking in strange places? Increasingly it looks like they are less likely to spread it but that evidence is not conclusive and R is falling in Scandinavia where schools are back - stop making things up
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22/05/2020 15:48:10 13 3
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85. Actually Demark's R number has increased since schools returned, nudging towards 1 again.
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22/05/2020 15:42:57 14 40
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There you go, get them open. We know theres a small risk but dont let the Unions and the odd slopey shouldered teacher scare you.
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22/05/2020 15:42:57 5 3
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I think if following criteria has been meant some kids should return to primary schools: i) Top end of the R number must below 1 in all regions of England ii) New cases have got to be below 2500 (3300 tested positive yesterday) - this capacity per day for the test, track and trace system can handle iii) The test, track and trace system and the NHS app operational
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22/05/2020 15:43:07 31 9
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The folk calling teachers lazy, are the same folk who should be out picking fruit and showing their 'blitz spirit'
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22/05/2020 15:43:18 4 0
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'risk' and 'consequence' are different things a high risk with a low consequence or a low risk with a high consequence risk can never be eliminated, but probably the consequence can be managed, people won't accept that as a solution, because they want to guarenteed that there is no risk.
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22/05/2020 15:41:18 11 5
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I’m actively planning and training to implement the school return for YR. For this year group in particular the implications are immense. I feel if many parents and misinformed people posting here were aware of what their children are to return to and the extraordinary extent of changes necessary for infection control in the absence of adequate social distancing and/or PPE they wouldn’t return yet
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22/05/2020 15:43:18 20 21
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This government can't be trusted, they've mislead us at every turn. Keep schools closed till September.
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22/05/2020 15:42:07 11 6
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Leave it until the new school year in September. Not worth all the bother with only one half term at most remaining. Plenty of time then to see how things progress and to get everything ready. Many schools including the one where my wife works gave all their PPE away to local hospitals.
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rob
22/05/2020 15:43:58 7 16
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81. Posted byTruthsayeron Just now Leave it until the new school year in September. Not worth all the bother with only one half term at most remaining. Plenty of time then to see how things progress and to get everything ready. Many schools including the one where my wife works gave all their PPE away to local hospitals. - you think teachers will give up summer hols to get ready for september
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22/05/2020 15:46:50 11 3
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92. Posted by rob on Just now - you think teachers will give up summer hols to get ready for september Yes, how many teachers do you actually know. If any, have you asked them?
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22/05/2020 15:40:16 225 36
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39. Posted by Sean So the risk is not zero...So it's not safe then! ------------- Neither is life. There is no such thing as zero risk. Risk from asteroid impact, bits falling from aircraft, crossing the road, getting up, not getting up, breathing in, not breathing in.
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22/05/2020 15:44:28 6 5
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69 Bill The point is when - not if - children die from this, our "thoughts & prayers are with the families at this time" will not wash. We know how deadly this virus can be. Not for all...but 36,000 unfortunately know for certain. Why not wait until September to restart & see if this country has got a sustainable falling rate of deaths. At the moment, we haven't.
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22/05/2020 15:38:55 14 0
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Life is thwarted with risks, schools have known for weeks that some children should return, what have schools been doing during that time? Surely preparations should have been started then instead of waiting for information that has been in the public domain for weeks. It should be head teachers who make the decision that their school is safe for children and staff not the media.
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62 what have schools been doing during that time? Surely preparations should have been started then instead of waiting for information that has been in the public domain for weeks. I would invite you to come and read the 20 or so documents that we have produced to open our school up. And then the govt change their advice daily.
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22/05/2020 15:38:04 11 19
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I'm on minimum wage having to go to my indoor place of work, full of adults and kids paying no attention to my personal space. If I show symptoms, 14 days off, back to work. Time to end the furlough and get back to work. Respect Covid-19, not live in fear of it.
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22/05/2020 15:44:38 9 3
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@56. Colin "Respect Covid-19, not live in fear of it." Sure, and Covid will respect you in return. And your children.
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22/05/2020 15:51:12 0 2
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David @95. Of course it won't respect me. My children are adults with their own. Respect not fear.
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22/05/2020 15:44:38 9 9
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There are huge societal risks if children don't get back to school. There are tiny Covid-19 risks if they do. The latter will be completely mitigated by a decent test & trace programme which will push R down by much more than the lockdown. What on Earth is everyone worried about?
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22/05/2020 15:44:48 4 2
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A pretty much meaningless report that by it's own admission does not really know anything with any great certainty.
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22/05/2020 15:44:48 17 7
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I wonder whether there were any parents or teachers or other members of the "It's not safe to reopen schools club" who have visited a beach a beach or other English beauty spot in the last few days or who plan to do so between now and Sept? Because to follow your logic you should ALL be staying at home until at least then.
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22/05/2020 15:44:59 83 14
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Unbelievable anti teacher comments on here.I think they deserve medals when I witness some of the little darlings behaviour.
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22/05/2020 15:54:04 44 6
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99 kitsmartie : "Unbelievable anti teacher comments on here.I think they deserve medals when I witness some of the little darlings behaviour." Absolutely. If parents played their part in bringing up their own kids properly teachers would be able to concentrate on their core job. They're not foster parents or social workers. Kids should be able to read and count before starting school.
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22/05/2020 16:36:12 7 8
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@99. Posted by kitsmartie 47 minutes ago Unbelievable anti teacher comments on here.I think they deserve medals when I witness some of the little darlings behaviour. ------------------------------- Where does that behaviour come from? It all went wrong when they took away the cane.
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51.pim56 "In the real world teachers work 60 hours a week and spend holidays marking and planning except for maybe 3 weeks in the summer. Teachers are always stressed and exhausted so lets just clear that up shall we." You either know very few teachers...or the ones you do know are not very good at their job.
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71. delrichy You either know very few teachers...or the ones you do know are not very good at their job. == I know more people who have left the teaching profession as they were unable to cope with the demands than I do current teachers.. a lot is asked of them. People attacking teachers on here should state their own profession before doing so..