UK arrivals could be fined for breaking quarantine
22/05/2020 | news | uk | 1,904
Travellers to the UK must self-isolate for 14 days from next month, the government is expected to announce.
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22/05/2020 09:36:56 14 15
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A fine idea.
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22/05/2020 09:53:15 18 1
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1/ No faith in those to self isolate. 2/ No faith in the government to check enough visitors are self-isolating to create a effective deterrent. 3/ Why isn't this already in place? 4/ Why hasn't this been in place since March? 5/ Where's the horse that's bolted from the stable?
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22/05/2020 09:36:56 16 22
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Stupid government the borders should be closed why why
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lhr
22/05/2020 10:03:10 10 1
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2 possible scenarios going forward. This will be either the next complete U-turn of the government within in a week or so, or the next thing we hear is that the USA will be exempt from quarantine upon arrival based on some sort of scientific modelling showing that this is the amount of arrivals we can cope within R
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22/05/2020 09:37:36 240 32
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How will a £1000 fine, a mere fraction of a standard BBC appearance fee, hinder the tax avoiding billionaires or self entitled luvvies? Criminal sanctions are the only deterrent. "Bus lanes are marvelous, hardly any traffic and they only cost £60" - Micheal Winner
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22/05/2020 09:37:36 94 7
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And how will this be monitored and by who?
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MVP
22/05/2020 09:37:46 20 3
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Good idea but the government is not going to be able to check if people are self isolating
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22/05/2020 12:20:25 9 0
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5 pm briefing should be interesting today.
22/05/2020 15:59:37 7 2
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5 PM !! Let the lies commence . . .
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22/05/2020 09:38:16 410 15
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Asking visitors to the UK to self isolate for 14 days sounds like a half-baked plan. Rather like asking all the criminals to hand themselves into the police in a bid to solve crime...
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22/05/2020 09:38:16 279 12
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How’s the quarantine going? Oh, it’s not happening yet.
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22/05/2020 09:38:37 548 45
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And that'll be policed/enforced how, exactly?? Meaningless guff. Far too little, far too late. An utterly meaningless gesture. We've been letting in 15000 a week up to now and we're running the Calais Ferry Service aiding and abetting criminal gangs and the French. This is all just meaningless pointless guff.
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22/05/2020 11:44:56 12 2
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8. Posted by Fubar5 We've been letting in 15000 a week up to now Think you'll find that weve been letting 15,000 a day (105,000 per week for the last 6 weeks). So yes a bit late on that one !!!
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22/05/2020 11:47:07 3 2
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8. Posted by Fubar5 "......now and we're running the Calais Ferry Service aiding and abetting criminal gangs and the French........." ------ I am baffled by this comment, but it got 272 upvotes so it must be good.
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22/05/2020 09:38:57 272 19
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A fine just means rich people won’t pay attention to it
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22/05/2020 09:44:50 9 2
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9. Henry A fine just means rich people won’t pay attention to it - Means tested fines would be ideal in general, as a percentage of your annual income. That way people would stop blasting down my road in brand new white BMWs. And of course those who DON'T earn as much don't have to pay ruinous fines designed to make wealthier people take notice.
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PCS
22/05/2020 09:38:57 231 8
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Unless these travellers go to a government supervised centre and screened appropriately, this restriction will fail if its left to a DIY self isolation.
22/05/2020 15:35:23 6 5
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10s of thousand of brits were repatriated early on and through this crisis from all round the globe including asian hotspots yet no quarantine was enforced then. catastrophic numbers and collapsing health services did not happen. Building hospitals and mortuaries that were not required. Take the blinkers off and get on with living. 550000 die of the flu each year , this is no worse
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22/05/2020 09:38:57 439 31
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Far too late! This should have been brought in in March. Since the UK lockdown, over 3 MILLION people have entered through UK airports......THREE MILLION! They should have guarded against the first wave and massively reduced the risk of a second wave of the virus!
22/05/2020 13:11:33 3 2
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11 'This should have been brought in in March.' Monitoring from February might have helped delay. UK already had community transmission in March. This measure may help a bit, but seems non-strategic and heavy-handed. Someone entering the UK may be less likely to be infected than someone already here. Current hotspots are US, Russia, Peru and Chile. Listen to WHO & public health experts.
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22/05/2020 09:38:57 300 17
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Should have happened mid-March. I suppose the government did not want to adversely affect the economy. How did that turn out?
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22/05/2020 09:39:17 73 8
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It should read 'will face' not 'could face'. It should be enforced.
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22/05/2020 10:36:28 2 2
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13 Jon Very hard to police and.. This morning I heard a woman in a supermarket saying how no one can stop her going to the beach if she wants to" v. unreasonable one should always respect the inalienable right of the thicko to suffer through their stupidity. and to ensure that others also suffer (cf. brexit) i'd like to say you were being "unconstitutional" only we don't have one ;o)
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22/05/2020 09:39:17 16 8
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Well the Govt had to find some money from somewhere after giving up on fleecing foreign NHS and care workers.
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22/05/2020 09:39:37 269 11
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How the hell is that going to work, are we going to employ people to sit outside their property 24/7. It will not work, just like the decision to allow people to drive wherever they want to exercise. I feel the government have lost the plot.
22/05/2020 13:30:44 7 1
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"15. How the hell is that going to work, are we going to employ people to sit outside their property 24/7. It will not work, just like the decision to allow people to drive wherever they want to exercise. I feel the government have lost the plot. " Ankle bracelets, a drone above them and an angry Daily Mail reader waiting for them to put a foot wrong, behind them.
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22/05/2020 09:39:37 116 10
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Our failure to put in a quarantine and checks on arrivals from abroad is one of the most shambolic aspects of our handling of this pandemic so far; many other countries in the world put such measures in place much earlier, when we should have done the same.
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22/05/2020 09:39:37 12 6
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That's the end of holidays abroad as not many can take an extra 14 days off Of course it's not like this chaotic idea will work as again it has that off the cuff I'll thoughout smell about it
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22/05/2020 09:39:37 6 5
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Better late than never I guess.
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22/05/2020 09:39:47 64 17
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Make it 10k, and fine all those selfish clowns at the beaches and lakes 1000!??
22/05/2020 14:47:47 6 2
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@19 Rutland3 Make it 10k, and fine all those selfish clowns at the beaches and lakes 1000! The clowns on the dole (called furlough) who can't go to work as it's dangerous but can sit side by side on the beach. No wonder they don't want to work!
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22/05/2020 09:39:47 18 7
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Why don't they just offer travellers the choice of a test at their cost or 14 days quarantine?
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22/05/2020 09:39:58 370 25
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Stable door, horse and bolted.
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22/05/2020 09:39:58 4 3
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If lockdown eases and holidays go ahead, keyworkers won't be able to go because they can't have 3 weeks off work. Can they still claim on insurance? Are they still entitled to a refund? Can only see that meaning thousands lost on pre-booked holidays in June/July for those who won't be able to go.
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22/05/2020 09:40:28 14 2
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Seems a bit vague and toothless for tourists given that the chances of paying a fine issued by a foreign country (e.g. the UK) are slim once they have returned back to their country of origin.
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22/05/2020 09:41:08 103 6
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Compare our airports test and 24 hour quarantine processes to that of Greece, ours system is a disgrace. We're being put to global shame due to the ineptitude of these morons in government. Then you see Rolls Royce cutting thousands of jobs and saying on the news that the governments 2 week post travel self isolation guideline is hurting the industry even more by making travel unfeasible. Clueless
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22/05/2020 09:41:08 27 70
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This government seems intent on destroying the airline business and foreign tourist destinations. Has it even stopped to think how Spain and other countries will react to this stupid knee jerk reaction. Did it even stop to think of testing arrivals to see if they had the disease, or antibodies? PEOPLE WANT THEIR LIVES BACK!!!
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22/05/2020 09:41:39 17 8
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All hotels around airports etc should be used for holding people arriving. As soon as they arrive people get put up in a hotel room and a test done. Results in 24-48 hours and if they are clear they are released. Limit numbers into the country to ensure hotels are not swamped out. It really is this simple.
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22/05/2020 09:41:49 88 4
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So if I can afford the fine I can skip quarantine? Good to know.
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22/05/2020 09:42:09 10 3
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That will hit those who can't work from home. They will be unavailable for work for two weeks following a foreign holiday and I can't see employers paying them.
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22/05/2020 09:42:39 38 3
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Good idea - virus is still there. Perhaps they should self isolate on the beaches along with the rest of those who think it is all over!!!
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22/05/2020 09:42:59 121 8
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The government really seems to think the average UK subject is from the 1950's, and will apply common sense. Are they not aware of the degree of self entitlement out there, or does it simply not suit their agenda. We will see long queues at the check in desk and maw, paw and the weans right back to normal as soon as they get back from holiday. Egregiously naive.
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22/05/2020 09:42:59 46 5
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A vague, ineffective policy from a vague, ineffective government.
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22/05/2020 09:42:59 107 6
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Test them! Just test them you idiots!
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22/05/2020 09:43:10 51 4
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Stable; door; horse having bolted a long time ago.
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22/05/2020 09:43:10 123 12
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Another law that "could" be enforced, but won't. Like: - cycling on pavements - using a mobile while driving - use of blue parking permits by able-bodied people - driving without road tax / insurance / mot etc, etc
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22/05/2020 09:43:20 5 3
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For quarantining people, I think we should have a People's Vote!
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22/05/2020 09:43:20 124 3
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This from a government that can't find, to deport, those who have served prison sentences. It's becoming a circus.
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22/05/2020 09:43:30 69 4
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Too little too late.
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22/05/2020 09:43:30 20 3
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I’d be coming in from a place (not Phuket!) that has less than 100 active cases, and they want ME to quarantine?? Unless it’s made clear whether these people can still food shop, go to doctors, travel on public transport from / back to airport etc, this is a joke, and just adds more confusion to how UK is managing the virus.
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22/05/2020 09:43:30 9 0
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It will be that long before other countries will allow us in, due to our infection and death rate, that 14 days of quarantine when we come back might not be an issue!!
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22/05/2020 09:43:50 29 6
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The fact we are an island helped tremendously in keeping us rabies free since 1922 using strict quarantine laws, it should be the same again.
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Jo
22/05/2020 09:43:50 19 3
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They aren't enough police or army enforce the lockdown in the UK thanks to tory cuts, how are they going to enforce this?
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22/05/2020 09:44:20 41 1
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We can't even manage to deport foreign criminals at the end of their jail sentences, so Why make empty threats about fining people not self isolating? Why not just admit that nobody is going to be able to track people coming into the country unless they are given tags like prisoners on parole? Even then, who would do the monitoring?
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22/05/2020 09:44:20 40 7
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I would have been completely behind this had it been implemented a couple of months ago. But currently a lot of places have lower infection rates than the UK. Why quarantine people coming from these countries? We need to protect the economy and peoples jobs as well. Quarantine people coming from the US/South America by all means. But Germany for example, what’s the point?
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22/05/2020 09:44:40 7 4
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Come on in while a pandemic is still on going complete morons you people are, let's all go out and have a sunbathing on seasides and not think of others compete morons
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22/05/2020 09:44:40 12 3
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Why is this not being done already. Why wait until end of May? A fine won't deter the rich. How about deportation if they're not UK citizens and one month jail if they are.
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22/05/2020 09:44:50 66 0
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There have been 10s or 100s of thousands of people repatriated to the UK from all over the world early in the pandemic and in recent weeks over 30,000 from the Indian sub-continent. I would be amazed if all or even most of these have been quarantined for two weeks on their return as they were seen on TV reports simply walking through customs with little or no checks. It's too little too late now.
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22/05/2020 09:38:57 272 19
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A fine just means rich people won’t pay attention to it
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22/05/2020 09:44:50 9 2
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9. Henry A fine just means rich people won’t pay attention to it - Means tested fines would be ideal in general, as a percentage of your annual income. That way people would stop blasting down my road in brand new white BMWs. And of course those who DON'T earn as much don't have to pay ruinous fines designed to make wealthier people take notice.
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22/05/2020 09:45:00 63 3
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This is useless now the virus is well in. With our levels of disease we are one of the countries most affected. It's others who are likely to be quarantining us. Wouldn't it be wiser to make testing on arrival an option?
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22/05/2020 09:45:10 27 2
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A bite late, isn't it?
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22/05/2020 09:45:21 10 2
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Could be! Could be! Usual wishy washy nonsense from UK plc Should be Will be fined and the fine be higher Next
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Cam
22/05/2020 09:45:21 53 3
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“Could be” Just a warning sound bite to try and get arrivals to comply. People have been entering the country and disappearing for years so fat chance of anyone being fined.
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22/05/2020 09:45:51 60 11
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How about fining Boris Johnson, for failing to comply with social distancing measures ?
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22/05/2020 09:45:51 1 0
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i am glad they have allowed the island of Ireland to be inc
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22/05/2020 09:46:11 21 2
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Best the gov just kept mouth shut and pretended that they hadn't overlooked this for months.
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22/05/2020 09:46:11 7 12
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A serious attack on freedom and a step to a police state. So far consent has been achieved but with this no more .Dodgy science and authoritarian tendencies play well it seems,in China ,and now here. The economic damage on this country will far outweigh any non traceable transmission
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Teachers on full pay for sitting at home doing nothing don't want to return to work. No great surprise there. Put them on furlough. Removed
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22/05/2020 09:47:01 16 6
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH how they going to police this? Another absolute no mark solution from the useless government.
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22/05/2020 09:47:01 6 1
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This sounds a lot of extra work for Health officials. Not sure policing the quarantine is the best use of their time?
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22/05/2020 09:47:22 3 3
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It would be fairly simple to issue all arrivals with an electronic tracking tag it could even be done through the persons phone. You give us the address where you are staying we will monitor you to make sure you stay there for 14 days. This wont happen of course as the government has no intention of applying these rules or for that matter the fines a few token gestures maybe thats all it will be,
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22/05/2020 09:47:42 16 2
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Fined along with all the idiots who think it’s a good idea to go to the coast and undo all the hard work so far.
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22/05/2020 09:47:42 6 2
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By the time they have created the list of exempt countries you will have to come from the South Pole before this applies to you
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22/05/2020 09:47:52 13 9
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So where will the thousands of illegal immigrants find their £1000 fines. ????
YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF WHO THE HELL WANTS TO GO TO THE UK EXCEPT ASIANS? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO STAY IN YOUR PROPERTY UNLESS IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY ANYWAY? YOU'RE ON ZOMBIE ALERT TERRORISING COASTAL TOWNS WITH THE INTENTIONS OF TAKING NOTICE OF SOCIAL DISTANCING AS LITTLE ENGLANDS SUPREMO TELLING THE TRUTH! YOUR FINANCIAL STATUS THIS MORNING IS THAT OF A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY! Adios Removed
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22/05/2020 09:48:32 7 1
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This was applied to Britons being flown back from Wuhan at the end of January but at that stage it was blindingly obvious that the virus wasn't just going to be in one place and was going to also be flown in from elsewhere, so other measures should have been planned at all borders for all arrivals. Look how New Zealand have managed this.
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22/05/2020 09:48:32 11 1
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They should write in a clause with foreign travel that if you get stuck where ever you are the British tax payer will not pay to send a plane especially to pick you up. ridiculous nonsense last time.
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22/05/2020 09:48:42 9 1
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Strikes me as only a deterent only for those who cannot afford the fine. Just like a Bentley owner may consider double yellow lines a personal parking space with a higher hourly charge, this is not going to stop millionaires from going about their business and paying £1000 for the convenience of breaking the rules. Time for a system which index links fines to personal wealth not arbitary sums.
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22/05/2020 09:48:42 4 14
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surely not, I thought everything was free. I predict a cold front of virtue signalling this morning.
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22/05/2020 09:48:42 7 4
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This idea is too late and needs to be rethought on the basis of testing developments. And the BBC needs to be more positive in its TV output!
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22/05/2020 09:48:52 3 0
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As long as the money goes to the NHS though, eh?
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meanwhile, Sadiq Khan ups the congestion charge. Removed
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22/05/2020 09:49:13 7 6
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Damned if they do and damned if they don't The media asks why are there no border checks and politicians can't risk the later follow up, why have you still not done anything about the borders. So they feel they have to do something and despite the appearance of bolting the stable door after the horse has gone they had to act Unfortunately policy by media pressure is not the answer to this problem
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22/05/2020 09:49:13 5 3
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They should just park up the plane or boat for a fortnight with the doors closed and an armed guard. that would stop frivolous travellers. Why fine people for a death wish?
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22/05/2020 09:49:23 19 0
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Oh look. It's that magic word again 'could'.
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22/05/2020 09:38:33 8 2
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i suspect the government will be largely ineffective against enforcing this. our country has to rebuild its border control and enforcement.
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22/05/2020 09:39:33 5 3
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Those saying the borders should have been glowed earlier. Did you call for the same thing during Bird Flu, Ebola, SARS, MURS, Bovine TB. Italy closed its borders first, didn’t help them.
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22/05/2020 09:39:33 18 3
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Why is the UK alway's so figgin soft !
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22/05/2020 09:49:43 8 2
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Surely test everyone coming in and make them stay in isolation centres until they are proven clear! Oh, and make a charge for this to cover costs!
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22/05/2020 09:49:43 10 1
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It should have been done at the beginning of March. WSO recommends that kind of mesure at the start of a pandemic. It looks like a PR exercise now, devised to convince the public that the Government is taking mesures. As they are not able to take the appropriate mesures (test and trace), anything will do to improve the image.
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22/05/2020 09:49:43 4 3
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The evidence on child transmission of the virus is clearer now and they do not spread the disease as much as adults as the WHO spokesperson said on Marr last week. Children need their education and schools need to reopen. Closing the border while everyone else is opening theirs is really closing the stable door after the horse has bolted and will make economic recovery almost impossible.
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22/05/2020 10:46:24 3 2
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"79 ianks 363 What is there nice to say? What bits of the governments approach to Covid has been correct timely and appropriate? Would love to know" I think you have just proven my point. What's your solution clever clogs?
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22/05/2020 11:45:46 13 6
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79. Posted by fos on 2 hours ago Labour agree with this policy so I suspect it’s useless You probably haven't read it in the Mail, but Labour now have a credible leader to challenge the 'genius' Cummings and his puppet boy.
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22/05/2020 09:50:03 7 3
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Your summer, autumn, winter and spring holidays have just all been cancelled. Keep clapping.
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22/05/2020 09:50:13 10 0
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They're first starting this soon? Why hasn't this been in place since March like everywhere else? "Barn door locked + horse bolted".18 million travellers have entered this country, no quarantine, totally unscreened, since this thing started. If only 5 percent were infected, that means 900,000 cases. Who've then gone on to infect countless other people here. Incredible.
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22/05/2020 09:50:33 4 1
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How the heck are they going to police this unless they somehow start spying on you once you arrive. Which we all the government does anyway so no change there.
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22/05/2020 09:51:04 8 1
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Call me old fashioned but I feel like we are being turned around in circles by contradictory Government messages that are stirring a pot of confusion that will lead to agitation and unrest in the population if a second round of infections gathers real pace. Are we quarantining foreign travellers (given the complexities Schengen adds) or not i.e. Greece etc ?
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22/05/2020 09:51:14 14 4
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Yet, again slow from the traps, will they ever learn, this government are inept, and shambolic!, they have lied , deceived and juggled figures from the very outset of the pandemic, yet there are still people who support them!, we have been weeks behind from the start, which has caused more deaths than need be,, how can we believe a word they say?, bojo, and his bots will be the death of us all!!!!
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22/05/2020 09:51:14 11 1
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So quarantine that is not actually quarantine two months after it should have actually been quarantine. Makes absolute sense... Fly where you want, but stay at home. It's all a load of BS from the start.
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22/05/2020 09:51:44 9 1
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Too little, too late
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22/05/2020 09:51:44 10 1
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What is the point? If we're going to do this, do it now, not 'at the end of the month'
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22/05/2020 09:52:14 7 3
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Cue hypocritical bellowing about foreigners flying into the country creating additional risks of spreading this virus as they dab after sun on the burns they got at the beach.
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22/05/2020 09:52:24 4 3
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Another measure which, once implemented, will require vague 'tests' not to justify continuing them, but to justify ending them. So bye bye, tourists and other visitors. It seems we don't want you here, apparently, even though we are just as likely to be infected as you are.
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22/05/2020 09:52:34 6 0
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Are the FCO planning to change their travel advice then?
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22/05/2020 09:52:54 3 0
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Why would they have to Quarantine for a whole 14 days? ... With the availability of increased testing they could quarantine for a few days (~ 3 say) and then test to see if they were positive for Covid19.
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22/05/2020 09:52:54 35 1
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Ridiculous, either you quarantine or you don't They should be taken straight to local hotels currently not used and kept there for 14 days as they do in Dubai and elsewhere.The police do not then have to be wasting time checking all over the country if they are in or not. And why are Ireland exempt ? has the virus been eradicated there ? Its a nonsense, will not work and will be dropped quietly
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22/05/2020 09:52:54 4 8
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Fines for breaching quarantine and police checking up on you; once again we seem to be heading towards a cold war Eastern European state
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22/05/2020 09:53:05 4 0
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Quarantine needs to be in managed facilities to work well. The UK fining cross-border travellers who haven't self-isolated and have spread the infection is like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. 'Quarantine for Scotland' https://peterdow.wordpress.com/2020/05/11/quarantine-for-scotland/
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22/05/2020 09:53:05 7 3
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Get the tory apologists - all mobilised bless. It's not 'hindsight' 'leave'. It's foresight you lack. And concern.
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22/05/2020 09:53:05 35 2
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"The new rules, which will also apply to British people returning from abroad, are not expected to come into force until next month." It beggars belief that we're not doing this NOW!
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22/05/2020 09:36:56 14 15
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A fine idea.
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22/05/2020 09:53:15 18 1
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1/ No faith in those to self isolate. 2/ No faith in the government to check enough visitors are self-isolating to create a effective deterrent. 3/ Why isn't this already in place? 4/ Why hasn't this been in place since March? 5/ Where's the horse that's bolted from the stable?
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22/05/2020 09:53:35 5 0
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Although small amounts of people had been returning to the UK, now is the time to put down some policies as travel looks to be opening up. Don't think quarantining will work, nor will we deploy the resources to find those that break it. Testing has moved on, swab them in the airport and focus on the ones that have C-19, through test, track and trace.
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22/05/2020 09:53:35 7 0
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Too Late, This should be DONE from January when pandemic rapidly growing to OTHER countries. Thailand, Singapore were the first to react LITTELE CASE NO LOCKDOWN. Were UK SCIENTIST having a NAP THAN?
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22/05/2020 09:53:35 8 5
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Non essential travel means just that. If we can't take a holiday in this country ( we do have a UK tourist industry) we don't need foreign travellers coming in, in any case. So lets all just stay home and take a holiday here. The rest of the world should do the same. Might help everyones economy. We should have closed our borders long before this anyhow, One life lost is one too many.