Government orders 10,000 ventilators from Dyson
25/03/2020 | news | business | 919
The engineering firm developed a new type of ventilator in response to calls on behalf of the NHS.
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26/03/2020 11:12:52 67 87
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The Dyson ventilator. It'll look nice and shiny, and break as soon as someone coughs. Meanwhile, actual ventilator manufacturers in the UK are being ignored. I can only presume they don't know enough MP's.
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26/03/2020 11:28:29 23 3
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1. Posted by Roy G Biv "Meanwhile, actual ventilator manufacturers in the UK are being ignored." I think the issue is that they can't keep up with demand so other suppliers are being sought. From this very article: "the government thinks it can procure a further 8,000 from existing domestic and international suppliers... the NHS will need at least 30,000"
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26/03/2020 11:36:23 6 1
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@1 Roy G Biv I've followed your commnets on here for a while. There is nothing a tory gov't can do which will please you, and you don't both to fact check before you jump yo the conclusion about the Dyson contract. Do you know if current manufaturers are working flat out & thus the Dyson contract is extra or do you have evidence they are 'being ignored'? Roy, you are
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26/03/2020 11:12:52 52 75
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Of course Dyson designed a new one. That way they can patent every last nut, bolt and screw and charge an exorbitant price, just like they do with all their other stuff.
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26/03/2020 13:50:55 8 5
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2. Posted byWhale of Izon 3 hours ago Of course Dyson designed a new one. That way they can patent every last nut, bolt and screw and charge an exorbitant price, just like they do with all their other stuff. Yet if one day in the near future a Dyson ventilator is the thing that keeps you alive will you still be saying that? Or will you be grateful that they made them?
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26/03/2020 11:12:52 60 85
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I wonder why Dyson and JCB have been chosen to receive these orders and not existing manufacturers. Couldn't be the fact that these are both massive donors to the Conservative party...
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26/03/2020 11:19:44 202 47
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@3.Adrian Bon "I wonder why Dyson and JCB have been chosen to receive these orders and not existing manufacturers. Couldn't be the fact that these are both massive donors to the Conservative party" No its because they have the facilities to make the thousands of units needed. Current manufacturers turn out a dozen or so units a week. They physically cannot make them in the numbers required
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26/03/2020 11:20:54 21 5
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3. Adrian B ...Dyson and JCB have been chosen to receive these orders and not existing manufacturers. ...are both massive donors to the Conservative party... Would normally with your cynicism and that of 2. Whale of Iz. Radio 4 AM today 1. reasons is that as individual orgs they don't have the legal in-fights over design and fees that consortium's have, so quicker to get to build stage.
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26/03/2020 11:13:52 137 29
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Meanwhile Branson still wants to go into space and asks for tax payer bailout.
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26/03/2020 11:15:52 280 62
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Bad jokes about reliability and digs over Brexit are not called for at this juncture. This is an heroic effort by all concerned, not just Dyson, and should be heartily appreciated and applauded.
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26/03/2020 11:20:14 21 13
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5. Posted bymorebalancepleaseon 3 minutes ago Bad jokes about reliability and digs over Brexit are not called for at this juncture. This is an heroic effort by all concerned, not just Dyson, and should be heartily appreciated and applauded. === Sadly the government have plenty of form here. Contracts for wealthy donors to the tory party... :(
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26/03/2020 12:12:51 10 9
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"5. Posted bymorebalancepleaseon Bad jokes about reliability and digs over Brexit are not called for at this juncture." So now we have a clear and unambiguous examples of how and why BoJo's plans for Brexit would be terrible, NOW you want to stop talking about it? How about no. This crisis would be far worse if BoJo had gotten his way and forced us out last year. Why do you run from truth?
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26/03/2020 20:06:33 1 5
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5. Posted by morebalanceplease well said I'm sick of the disgusting comments against those who are doing there level best. For heavens sake we are in crisis start to do something positive not sit on your backside snipping people are dying.
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26/03/2020 11:15:52 209 87
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Cue the brainwashed Momentum Marxists and their 'whataboutery' Can't you just for once give the government credit for what they are doing and what they have achieved over the last few weeks?
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26/03/2020 11:32:00 54 12
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@6 Harriet Lime - The Third Woman "Cue the brainwashed Momentum Marxists..." You have typed exactly the same thing at the start of almost every coronavirus HYS for weeks now. http://ihysdb.com/User/Summary/16661415 You are simply sowing discord & attempting to score cheap political points. It's truly pathetic. Give it a rest.
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26/03/2020 11:35:52 22 9
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6. Harriet Lime - The Third Woman Can't you just for once give the government credit for what they are doing and what they have achieved over the last few weeks? === Their core achievement has been to first decide to let the virus sweep the UK with prospective 500k-2.5M dead, then a delay of at least one-two weeks on lock-down, copying Italy in everything, including the errors.
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26/03/2020 11:41:35 16 7
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6.Harriet Lime - The Third Woman Cue the brainwashed Momentum Marxists and their 'whataboutery' Can't you just for once give the government credit for what they are doing and what they have achieved over the last few weeks? ==== 'Brainwashed' Just this week it was reported that the GMent's approach could result in over 35k avoidable deaths & you're celebrating this. Spineless
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26/03/2020 12:17:34 10 10
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"6. Posted byHarriet Lime - The Third Womanon Can't you just for once give the government credit for what they are doing and what they have achieved over the last few weeks?" After pouring gasoline on the fire for weeks, and suggesting that an uncontrolled wildfire would be the best way of solving things, maybe they don't deserve credit for finally upending a single bucket of water.
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26/03/2020 12:45:48 10 5
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@6 - 'Can't you just for once give the government credit for what they are doing and what they have achieved over the last few weeks?' Well, for three weeks they entertained the possibility that the survivors would totally be fine because of 'herd immunity'. Then political pressure made them change tack. Do you want me to give them credit for doing nothing much for those three weeks?
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27/03/2020 11:11:35 3 2
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6. Posted by Harriet Lime - The Third Woman Cue the brainwashed Momentum Marxists and their 'whataboutery' Can't you just for once give the government credit for what they are doing and what they have achieved over the last few weeks? Yep - happy to give the government credit where its due. How about you respond in kind and stop with the mindless marxist comments for a while
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26/03/2020 11:15:52 34 53
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Government already turned down many offers of ventilators as they delayed. And test kits. Look it up.
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26/03/2020 11:15:52 216 14
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No good will come from reading these comments... turn back now for your own sanity.
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26/03/2020 11:16:02 13 4
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New York seem to be looking to panic buy and stockpile ventilators
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26/03/2020 11:16:02 292 15
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"Meanwhile Branson still wants to go into space and asks for tax payer bailout." Plus Branson had to cheek to sue the NHS using his fancy lawyers - all because they did not award him a contract.
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26/03/2020 11:16:02 140 20
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I like the modern design. They better be good and reliable, and the Gov needs to order 30,000-40,000 more. 10,000 is not enough. Credit to Dyson for putting their cooperate reputation on the line in order to do this.
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26/03/2020 11:16:22 25 16
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Manufacturing systems in a nutshell. In Germany they make robust stuff, In Japan they work out how to mass produce good stuff, In the USA they look at how much profit they can make out of it, and in the UK they form a committee to see if it could/should be made, allied to can we get a long term return on the investment(12 months).
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26/03/2020 11:16:22 58 15
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Adrian B people’s lives are not a political point scoring issue. I take it if you or yours get the virus and need a ventilator you will refuse a days on ventilator. Grow up.
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26/03/2020 11:16:32 327 20
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Can we please stop comparing this to the Blitz. I wasn't there but I imagine the potential Nazi invasion of the UK was slightly more concerning
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26/03/2020 12:05:18 13 12
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14. Posted byRoundPeach82on Can we please stop comparing this to the Blitz. I wasn't there but I imagine the potential Nazi invasion of the UK was slightly more concerning ------------------------------------ Boris needs his soundbites for the sake of historical reporting. Legacy.
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26/03/2020 12:51:11 7 1
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14RoundPeach82. Of course the Blitz was grim. My own wife's grandparents were killed in Foots Cray in 1941. German bombing killed 60,000 in 5 years. But there was never a realistic possiblity of a Nazi invasion. The Government exaggerated the threat to keep the populace compliant and fearful. We dropped thirty times as much ordnance on Germany as they did on us. We out vastly out produced them.
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26/03/2020 13:12:02 6 0
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@14 RoundPeach82 if you were there it puts you at around 90. Congratulations on your technological skills!
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26/03/2020 11:17:33 21 33
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They all be in the bin by the end of the year.
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26/03/2020 11:20:00 6 7
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15. Posted bypleb1anon 1 minute ago They all be in the bin by the end of the year. .. Juesus christ man sort it out
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26/03/2020 11:18:13 170 8
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Lets hope some of these big names with Billions of pounds will put something back into their society now we are in trouble. Heard recently that Branson for example could have fully paid the thousands of workers he laid off for 3 months full pay and watch his £4.1 Billion fortune still stay above £4 Billion, how greedy can you get
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26/03/2020 11:18:33 80 5
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Will be a sensational achievement to manufacture these and get to hospitals in time from a standing start good luck!
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26/03/2020 11:18:43 23 10
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If you’ve nothing constructive to say, find something else to do
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26/03/2020 13:05:59 5 1
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18. keeping ones head down " If you’ve nothing constructive to say, find something else to do . " Translation, if you don’t agree with my view of the world, shut up. There's a word for people with that kind of outlook.
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26/03/2020 11:18:43 15 10
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I hope they remember to make them blow and not suck. Sorry if anyone is offended and thinks this is not the time for levity.
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26/03/2020 11:19:34 18 17
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does that mean they will be made from cheap plastic and cost 10 times more than they are worth??
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26/03/2020 11:19:34 39 8
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The cost per unit? BETTER BE REASONABLE. I don't want us to be paying stupid prices for this. There has been enough price gouging/inflating/fleecing going on up and down the country.
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26/03/2020 11:12:52 60 85
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I wonder why Dyson and JCB have been chosen to receive these orders and not existing manufacturers. Couldn't be the fact that these are both massive donors to the Conservative party...
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26/03/2020 11:19:44 202 47
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@3.Adrian Bon "I wonder why Dyson and JCB have been chosen to receive these orders and not existing manufacturers. Couldn't be the fact that these are both massive donors to the Conservative party" No its because they have the facilities to make the thousands of units needed. Current manufacturers turn out a dozen or so units a week. They physically cannot make them in the numbers required
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26/03/2020 11:32:11 11 4
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22. cholmes2 No its because they have the facilities to make the thousands of units needed. Current manufacturers turn out a dozen or so units a week. They physically cannot make them in the numbers required == The CEO of Rolls Royce (a remainer) says he hasn't been contacted despite having the capacity to manufacture. Why?
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26/03/2020 16:20:56 6 1
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22. cholmes2 @3.Adrian B... No its because ...ers turn out a dozen or so units a week. They physically cannot make them in the numbers required ---------------------- Didn't Dyson move his production to Malaysia and Singapore to increase his profits? I hope these ventilators are made in facilities which have had a deep clean and I don't mean a quick blast with a Dyson.
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26/03/2020 11:15:52 280 62
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Bad jokes about reliability and digs over Brexit are not called for at this juncture. This is an heroic effort by all concerned, not just Dyson, and should be heartily appreciated and applauded.
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26/03/2020 11:20:14 21 13
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5. Posted bymorebalancepleaseon 3 minutes ago Bad jokes about reliability and digs over Brexit are not called for at this juncture. This is an heroic effort by all concerned, not just Dyson, and should be heartily appreciated and applauded. === Sadly the government have plenty of form here. Contracts for wealthy donors to the tory party... :(
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26/03/2020 11:20:34 30 27
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Ah, Dyson, the pro Brexiter who relocated his business to Singapore and was one of the mouthpieces for an event that has costs us over 20,000 much-needed nurses. Yep, he's a real hero.
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26/03/2020 11:31:40 14 16
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@24. bpmkenton "Ah, Dyson, the pro Brexiter who relocated his business to Singapore and was one of the mouthpieces for an event that has costs us over 20,000 much-needed nurses. Yep, he's a real hero" An outright lie. Dyson designs all his products in the UK and built his own technical university. He moved out the UK in 2002 BECAUSE of EU red he said. EU has cost 30,000 nurses and other jobs
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26/03/2020 11:20:34 23 47
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We can live in hope of course. But a bicycle pump will be more reliable than a Dyson.
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26/03/2020 11:20:34 253 21
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Of course Dyson designed a new one. That way they can patent every last nut, bolt and screw and charge an exorbitant price. -- Except you lie, as Dyson has already said from the start all intellectual ideas and the design will be published, open and free for anyone to use. Plus if he wants to patent useful things in cleaners etc and people want/buy it - good for him.
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26/03/2020 11:12:52 60 85
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I wonder why Dyson and JCB have been chosen to receive these orders and not existing manufacturers. Couldn't be the fact that these are both massive donors to the Conservative party...
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26/03/2020 11:20:54 21 5
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3. Adrian B ...Dyson and JCB have been chosen to receive these orders and not existing manufacturers. ...are both massive donors to the Conservative party... Would normally with your cynicism and that of 2. Whale of Iz. Radio 4 AM today 1. reasons is that as individual orgs they don't have the legal in-fights over design and fees that consortium's have, so quicker to get to build stage.
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26/03/2020 16:38:15 9 4
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27 countries coming together to co-operate and produce ventilators But not the UK ... we'll ask that billionaire in Singapore to jerry up a few instead of making his noisy hand dryers
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26/03/2020 11:21:35 84 6
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And he has donated a further 5000 to countries that need them. Any news on what Branson is doing?
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26/03/2020 11:43:26 7 2
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@28 Any news on what Branson is doing? Wasting resources searching for COVID-19 in space perhaps? . Well to to Dyson though!
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26/03/2020 11:53:42 24 3
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"28. Posted by Londonfirst on 31 minutes ago And he has donated a further 5000 to countries that need them. Any news on what Branson is doing? " Yes. Telling his staff to take eight weeks unpaid leave because his personal fortune is more important than the welfare of the people who made that fortune for him. Disgrace - but he always was.
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26/03/2020 11:21:55 17 13
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seems a weird plan to design, make and test a new design in singapore rather than making the current, tested, design in the uk so once made you dont have to transport them halfway round the globe.
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26/03/2020 11:22:35 25 30
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Pity we couldn't find a British firm to do this.
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26/03/2020 11:27:43 9 2
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30. Posted byKwittermess and the Bottomless Piton 2 minutes ago Pity we couldn't find a British firm to do this. Yes and when this is finished i hope the uk realize how important to manufacture good in the even if it has a bit more cost.
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26/03/2020 12:35:23 10 16
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@30 Kwittermess and the Bottomless Pit Pity we couldn't find a British firm to do this. ++ Pity Dyson is investing £200 million in his Malmesbury research centre. Pity you're a blinkered hater.
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26/03/2020 11:22:45 10 7
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Wonder how much the spare parts will cost? Seriously though, well done to him.
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26/03/2020 11:22:45 20 35
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Lots of Tory sympathisers commenting on here.
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26/03/2020 11:25:27 14 10
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32. Mr Nutz Lots of Tory sympathisers commenting on here. Yes people being positive and hoping Dyson succeeds to bring some help to those in need must really get to you...
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26/03/2020 11:23:06 20 7
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It could be that the current manufacturers simply don't have the capacity to produce ventilators on the scale that is required. Manufacturers don't run with massive capacity as it is not economical to do so. The comments on here are completely ridiculous. Instead of celebrating the enormous effort being made, everyone seems compelled to ridicule and pour scorn on these great British companies.
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26/03/2020 11:23:26 12 6
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Hopefully it’ll be successful. I take it the existing suppliers are foreign and worldwide demand means they can’t supply the NHS with the required numbers?
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26/03/2020 11:23:57 4 1
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Is Dyson ISO13485 approved ? @Kwittermess I know of at least one UK company that is making stuff to help.
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26/03/2020 11:24:17 18 1
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Good to see they intend building them here. Outsourcing manufacturing to the other side of the world may increase profit margins but does nothing to help in times of crises. Anyone wanting to market themselves using the cache of being British must maintain considerable manufacturing capability here. Are you paying attention Triumph?
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26/03/2020 11:24:17 55 4
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I can't imagine that anyone will want to buy a vacuum cleaner at the moment so this is a sensible plan from Dyson to use their production capacity on something that is useful
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26/03/2020 11:24:47 22 3
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Interesting piece on newsnight last night, manufacturers of parts hadn't heard anything back from the gov. Manufacturers of current ventilators not even asked to upscale. Instead it was put out to companys to come up with new design, test and then produce and will take weeks to be available. At the height of the pandemic, we'll have exactly the amount of ventilators, to what we have now.
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27/03/2020 13:54:56 2 0
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@38. HopeOverFear Interesting piece on newsnight last night, manufacturers of parts hadn't heard anything back from the Gov. Manufacturers of current ventilators not even asked 2 upscale. Instead it was put out 2 companys 2 come up with new design, test and then produce and will take weeks 2 be available. At the height of the pandemic, we'll have exactly the same amount of ventilators as now.
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26/03/2020 11:24:47 15 3
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If they are value for money and Dyson can manufacture them quickly enough its a good thing. If Dyson has improved upon the design in common use, even better. Necessity is the mother of invention after all.
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26/03/2020 11:25:27 88 21
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Made in the UK by a UK company. About time government contracts were given to British industry. James Dyson a Brexiteer built his own technical university a few years ago. That result is paying off. Unlike that selfish remainer Branson who has done nothing and won't even pay his airline staff.
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26/03/2020 13:28:21 11 1
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"40. Posted byRobinHoodon 2 hours ago Made in the UK by a UK company. About time government contracts were given to British industry. James Dyson a Brexiteer built his own technical university a few years ago. That result is paying off. ..." Where does he make all those overpriced vacuum cleaners again?
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26/03/2020 13:48:01 2 7
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40. Posted byRobinHoodon 2 hours ago y. James Dyson a Brexiteer built his own technical university a few years ago. ... not sure his racist leaning are relevant are they ?
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26/03/2020 14:29:23 11 2
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@40.RobinHood " ... James Dyson a Brexiteer ... Unlike that selfish remainer Branson ..." What you say about Dyson and Branson is essentially true, BUT this has absolutely nothing to do with brexit whatsoever. Dyson isn't doing this because he supported brexit and Branson's actions have nothing to do with remaining. Can we please forget brexit, for or agin, in this time of national crisis.
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26/03/2020 16:30:21 7 5
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40. RobinHood Made in the UK by a UK company. About time government contracts were given to British industry. James Dyson a Brexitee..off..selfish..Branson who has done nothing and won't even pay his staff - Didn't Dyson move his production facilities to Malaysia & Singapore in 2002 in pursuit of extra profit? Totally agree with you about Branson - send him into space with a one-way ticket...
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26/03/2020 11:22:45 20 35
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Lots of Tory sympathisers commenting on here.
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26/03/2020 11:25:27 14 10
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32. Mr Nutz Lots of Tory sympathisers commenting on here. Yes people being positive and hoping Dyson succeeds to bring some help to those in need must really get to you...
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26/03/2020 11:25:27 14 14
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Ah, Dyson, the pro Brexiter who relocated his business to Singapore and was one of the mouthpieces for an event that has costs us over 20,000 much-needed nurses. Yep, he's a real hero. --- You sound bitter. A very causal link there, is that the best you can do? Sad remainers are bringing Brexit into it and spreading false info, when someone is doing their best to help out...
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26/03/2020 11:25:27 14 15
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Being Dyson products we can be sure they will be overpriced and spare parts unavailable.
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26/03/2020 11:25:47 14 4
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it is a non story, order is placed but non built or tested, if /when they are made they many help when the next wave of the virus hits, but we should have had MANY more ventilators,fact is NHS has been under funded for 30 odd years most EU states spend bigger % of GDP than the UK
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26/03/2020 11:31:50 16 4
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44. paul : NHS has been under funded for 30 odd years most EU states spend bigger % of GDP than the UK Not simple underfunding. Business logic was introduced, and business logic dictates that you use as few resources as possible to do the job. Therefore there are no spare resources, whether staff or equipment, available when there is a crisis. Obvious really, but we keep voting for it.
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26/03/2020 11:25:47 55 5
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Regardless of his past indiscretions, real or imagined, this can only be a good thing, providing he isn't overcharging for them. And the one thing you can say definitively about Dyson is that he knows how to design and manufacture motorised equipment so this should be a fast process. In these times, I'll look past his past and go back to hating him later. Now, where's Branson??
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26/03/2020 11:26:18 11 9
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Dyson are showing we have the expertise and ingenuity to match anywhere in the world. The UK needs to believe in ourselves more. The people that work at companies like Dyson & G-Tech are the highly skilled jobs that need to be replicated across the UK. Rather than the relatively low skilled, low paid jobs that have been the manifestation of neo-liberal globalisation.
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26/03/2020 11:28:49 14 20
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@46: Silver Fox Do you realise he relocated to Singapore after Brexit? I'd suggest taking his ventilators, then boycotting them for life until his company falls apart. He's a traitor.
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26/03/2020 11:26:18 56 11
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Ignore the negative comments on here. Congratulation to Dyson, hopefully countless lives will be saved. If the tech is reliable, lives are saved and the cost is reasonable what have we got to lose? NOTHING. Stop moaning and come up with something better!!! We don't have time to complain, only lives to save.
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26/03/2020 11:26:28 14 6
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I hope other engineering firms keep up efforts This looks like marketing spin from Dyson, and statements like available from the end of April. Is that 10,000 delivered by end of April or a couple of pre-production prototypes? We need to be building every single part of the devices in the UK and not relying on global suppliers. Production delayed due to waiting for parts is not an option!!!
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26/03/2020 11:27:28 14 12
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Absolute power has been devolved by Parliament to the Government. Welcome to the Kleptocracy. Come in friend. Have some cash. No questions can be asked.
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26/03/2020 11:27:38 33 1
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Unfortunately most of our clothing industry has been exported to Bangladesh (protective clothing), but there are many companies still in the UK who could turn their hands to something. If the government could publish a list of what they need, some bright sparks out there could think "I could do that" e.g. the perfume company now making sanitiser.
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26/03/2020 11:27:38 16 7
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Laudable re the ventilators, however Dyson also need to look after their own people a bit better. I have a close friend based at Dyson in Malmesbury and he's one of those at risk - asthma and a heart condition. Dyson has refused permission for him to wfh - only offering one week on, one week off. Not good enough.
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26/03/2020 11:27:58 3 5
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Another myth that the can't do merchants were perpetrating laid to rest.
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26/03/2020 11:27:58 10 11
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Why didn't they order ventilators from the companies that already make them???? could have been done yonks ago & in production. We need ventilators that are tried & tested & guaranteed to work......not some souped up version by Dyson.....this stinks of palm greasing....unless of course being worth $5.9billion he's doing it for free!! Surprised Branson isn't on board for this moneymaker
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26/03/2020 11:12:52 67 87
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The Dyson ventilator. It'll look nice and shiny, and break as soon as someone coughs. Meanwhile, actual ventilator manufacturers in the UK are being ignored. I can only presume they don't know enough MP's.
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26/03/2020 11:28:29 23 3
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1. Posted by Roy G Biv "Meanwhile, actual ventilator manufacturers in the UK are being ignored." I think the issue is that they can't keep up with demand so other suppliers are being sought. From this very article: "the government thinks it can procure a further 8,000 from existing domestic and international suppliers... the NHS will need at least 30,000"
I foresee medical staff grumbling about broken accessories, pipes splitting in the one same really annoying place, and filters that supposedly aren't needed constantly clogging up!
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26/03/2020 11:26:18 11 9
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Dyson are showing we have the expertise and ingenuity to match anywhere in the world. The UK needs to believe in ourselves more. The people that work at companies like Dyson & G-Tech are the highly skilled jobs that need to be replicated across the UK. Rather than the relatively low skilled, low paid jobs that have been the manifestation of neo-liberal globalisation.
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26/03/2020 11:28:49 14 20
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@46: Silver Fox Do you realise he relocated to Singapore after Brexit? I'd suggest taking his ventilators, then boycotting them for life until his company falls apart. He's a traitor.
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26/03/2020 11:28:59 14 14
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Anything this worm does will be to line his own pockets, literally hoovering up at the expense of this country. Tories need to go - his factory output should be requisitioned - we should not be paying for this equipment
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26/03/2020 11:33:21 1 6
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57 Looks like down voters people think we should be paying for this equipment
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26/03/2020 11:28:59 13 50
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Good ole Dyson. Congratulations! Trust a Brexiteer to know best. All i can say to remainers is pip, pip, wot, wot, tally ho!!
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26/03/2020 11:42:56 13 20
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58 Enochs Yes Dyson voted to leave and, when just over half the country did vote leave, he ran away to Singapore to his £46 million apartment high over the city. A real man of the people like rat/ship etc This country made him his billions so why can't he supply them at cost or free? Greed. BJ thought he'd look after his Tory mates &have fun, PM job suddenly not so fun is it Boris?
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26/03/2020 11:29:49 6 4
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Why order only 10,000? This government is still not getting to grips with the situation.
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26/03/2020 11:30:10 10 13
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If Dyson has supported remain the same people would not be so negative on here. One trait all too many online remainers have: negativity and pessimism towards ANYTHING Brexit related. Glad I am not one of them, their world must be depressing.
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26/03/2020 11:30:20 15 20
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IF Dyson so so pro UK he would have kept his made base in UK not Singapore, Like most people he looks at profit first NOT country
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26/03/2020 11:30:50 13 1
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Comment number8. Posted byGareth "No good will come from reading these comments... turn back now for your own sanity." Oh I don't know. If nothing else it reaffirms my opinion of the British mentality.
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26/03/2020 11:31:10 6 6
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I have to admit that despite all his personal failings and questionable business practices that Mr Dyson might have the best adaptable technology. The company makes hair dryers, fans and vaccum cleaners with their well designed electric motors. They will be expensive but cost is not an issue because we need them now.
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26/03/2020 11:31:10 14 12
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Judging by the price of Dyson products and the huge multi-billion personal furtune he has amassed as a result, Dyson will be doing this primarily to increase his income. Look at how he closed his UK factory and move to Asia to increase profits - not to reduce the price of his products.
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26/03/2020 11:20:34 30 27
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Ah, Dyson, the pro Brexiter who relocated his business to Singapore and was one of the mouthpieces for an event that has costs us over 20,000 much-needed nurses. Yep, he's a real hero.
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26/03/2020 11:31:40 14 16
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@24. bpmkenton "Ah, Dyson, the pro Brexiter who relocated his business to Singapore and was one of the mouthpieces for an event that has costs us over 20,000 much-needed nurses. Yep, he's a real hero" An outright lie. Dyson designs all his products in the UK and built his own technical university. He moved out the UK in 2002 BECAUSE of EU red he said. EU has cost 30,000 nurses and other jobs
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26/03/2020 11:36:03 18 4
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65. Sorry. That is total bunkum. Dysentery moved his HQ and manufacturing to the Far East because he claimed that’s where his major markets are. And as for the claim that the EU has lost us 30,000 nurses, words fail me. Even the DM has never made that claim! But leaving the EU has resulted in a lot of medical staff returning to their own countries.
@ 65. Posted by YouWantSome on 1 minute ago "He moved out the UK in 2002 BECAUSE of EU red he said." ---- Yes, those pesky employment laws and human rights. Children are perfectly capable of assembling vacuum cleaners! Removed
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26/03/2020 11:25:47 14 4
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it is a non story, order is placed but non built or tested, if /when they are made they many help when the next wave of the virus hits, but we should have had MANY more ventilators,fact is NHS has been under funded for 30 odd years most EU states spend bigger % of GDP than the UK
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26/03/2020 11:31:50 16 4
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44. paul : NHS has been under funded for 30 odd years most EU states spend bigger % of GDP than the UK Not simple underfunding. Business logic was introduced, and business logic dictates that you use as few resources as possible to do the job. Therefore there are no spare resources, whether staff or equipment, available when there is a crisis. Obvious really, but we keep voting for it.
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26/03/2020 11:31:50 17 8
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The political clap trap on here is pathetic, I dare say if you are unfortunate enough to require one of these machines you won't be too concerned with who give what to who when and why. People need to grow up and pull together
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26/03/2020 11:15:00 8 2
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Where are they going to be made Uk i hope
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26/03/2020 11:17:33 21 33
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They all be in the bin by the end of the year.
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26/03/2020 11:20:00 6 7
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15. Posted bypleb1anon 1 minute ago They all be in the bin by the end of the year. .. Juesus christ man sort it out
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26/03/2020 11:20:00 6 1
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Mass production is needed right now, repeating the same process over and again is something Dyson is very good at. Pleased they are being made here, hopefully we have enough raw materials. This product will be needed worldwide, so no doubt other Dyson plants will produce too.
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26/03/2020 11:21:00 13 10
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I'd be more appreciative of Dyson's efforts if he hadn't moved his company and a whole lot of jobs offshore to avoid paying a moral level of tax in this country. We should be awarding companies who do the right thing, not awarding tax avoiders.
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26/03/2020 11:36:43 17 7
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Re 71: "I'd be more appreciative of Dyson's efforts if he hadn't moved his company and a whole lot of jobs offshore to avoid paying a moral level of tax in this country." Please define a moral level of income tax. Are you saying that successive governments, who set the tax rules, are immoral?
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26/03/2020 11:15:52 209 87
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Cue the brainwashed Momentum Marxists and their 'whataboutery' Can't you just for once give the government credit for what they are doing and what they have achieved over the last few weeks?
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26/03/2020 11:32:00 54 12
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@6 Harriet Lime - The Third Woman "Cue the brainwashed Momentum Marxists..." You have typed exactly the same thing at the start of almost every coronavirus HYS for weeks now. http://ihysdb.com/User/Summary/16661415 You are simply sowing discord & attempting to score cheap political points. It's truly pathetic. Give it a rest.
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26/03/2020 11:32:11 19 7
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de Pfeffel Johnson had the chance to bulk buy with the rest of the EU, he refused, sorry, wee Moscow Dom refused on his behalf.
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26/03/2020 11:19:44 202 47
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@3.Adrian Bon "I wonder why Dyson and JCB have been chosen to receive these orders and not existing manufacturers. Couldn't be the fact that these are both massive donors to the Conservative party" No its because they have the facilities to make the thousands of units needed. Current manufacturers turn out a dozen or so units a week. They physically cannot make them in the numbers required
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26/03/2020 11:32:11 11 4
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22. cholmes2 No its because they have the facilities to make the thousands of units needed. Current manufacturers turn out a dozen or so units a week. They physically cannot make them in the numbers required == The CEO of Rolls Royce (a remainer) says he hasn't been contacted despite having the capacity to manufacture. Why?
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26/03/2020 11:35:42 11 6
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#74 The CEO of Rolls Royce (a remainer) says he hasn't been contacted despite having the capacity to manufacture. Why? If that's true, why hasn't the CEO offered their services and manufacturing capacity to the government rather than just waiting to be asked! That's what other manufacturers seem to have done.
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26/03/2020 11:32:31 6 3
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JCB have been asked but I don't think they have said they can do much. The old style 'Both' model ironlung could be made by many manufacturers now sure a modern ventilator can. Dyson's track record is mixed - eg his change of plan re electric cars when the facts changed. Perhaps his move to Singapore was driven by facts change on Brexit - if so we'll never know as he doesn't seem to admit errors.
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26/03/2020 11:33:01 8 5
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Get a grip those who can only see the downsides
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26/03/2020 11:39:14 10 10
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76."Get a grip those who can only see the downsides" The BBC always looks for the downsides. They did exactly the same with the nationwide text that everyone got... "We could have done it years ago but for some reason we didn't" BBC get behind the country or self-isolate yourself.
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26/03/2020 11:33:01 10 3
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What has this article got to do with Brexit? Can someone please explain?
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26/03/2020 11:40:45 9 8
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77. Posted byflying Fiaton 3 minutes ago What has this article got to do with Brexit? Choosing not to join the EU purchasing consortium which would have improved buying clout & affordability presumably on a Brexit principle because EU not barring us which makes the whole material availability matter to do with Brexit plus nurse & dr numbers down due to Brexit. Brexit kills
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26/03/2020 11:33:11 5 6
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Hope he knows they're supposed to blow not suck! ;-)
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26/03/2020 11:28:59 14 14
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Anything this worm does will be to line his own pockets, literally hoovering up at the expense of this country. Tories need to go - his factory output should be requisitioned - we should not be paying for this equipment
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26/03/2020 11:33:21 1 6
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57 Looks like down voters people think we should be paying for this equipment
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26/03/2020 11:34:12 10 10
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IF Dyson so so pro UK he would have kept his made base in UK not Singapore, Like most people he looks at profit first NOT country -- What he has done is create many thousands of high skill, highly paid design jobs. He created a university. The impact and knock-on of all this extra skill is immense. New companies, skin off etc. You want the UK to be a low pay manufacturing ecomomy?
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26/03/2020 11:34:16 6 7
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Hold on!! Emily Maitlis interviewed a bloke last night who said the Government had done nothing!! ?? I'm confused, BBC.
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26/03/2020 11:40:55 8 1
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Re 81: "I'd be more appreciative of Dyson's efforts if he hadn't moved his company and a whole lot of jobs offshore to avoid paying a moral level of tax in this country." You are easily confused then. People holding differing views, expressing them and yet it's the BBC's fault you don't understand?
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26/03/2020 11:47:38 5 6
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81. Posted byshocked and horrifiedon 11 minutes ago Hold on!! Emily Maitlis interviewed a bloke last night who said the Government had done nothing!! ?? I'm confused, BB = She also interviewed a Government Minister who crumbled when the lies he spouted about ventilator manufacturing were ripped apart.
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26/03/2020 11:34:22 13 3
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Penlon UK are an example of an existing ventilator manufacturer. They make around 15 units a week. (Source BBC News). If you want to wait 13 years for your 10,000 units to arrive, by all means use the existing firms. Otherwise accept that we needed to draft in manufacturers with the capacity to generate the hundreds of units a day required.
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26/03/2020 11:34:42 3 5
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I sent my homemade ventilator design to dyson... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfIQwh9_k6I&t=7s ...and im still waiting for the job offer?
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26/03/2020 11:34:42 8 1
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Can't help thinking about the govt contract for extra ferries in case of a no-deal brexit, which was awarded to a company with no ships! Still, if Dyson can do it, fair play to them. I just hope the govt are sensible enough to limit the margins they and anyone else providing ventilators are allowed to make on this.
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26/03/2020 11:37:43 8 1
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@84. Oh please. Dyson are a well established high tech manufacturing company. That ferry company was 2 blokes in a pub! There's no comparison. This is a global emergency so this is good news.
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26/03/2020 11:35:02 14 12
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I've had two Dyson vacuum cleaners... they both broke. Are quickly designed and made Dyson ventilators a good idea?... I'm not holding my breath!!1
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26/03/2020 11:39:04 8 6
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85 "Are quickly designed and made Dyson ventilators a good idea?..." It may surprise you to learn that medical equipment goes through somewhat more stringent testing than vacuum cleaners do. Tell me - I've always wondered - what's life like as a sad, pessimistic, miserable wet rag ? It can't be a nice existence.
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26/03/2020 11:39:14 47 3
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@85 Blastygoose "Are quickly designed and made Dyson ventilators a good idea?... I'm not holding my breath!!" You will be if they don't work!
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26/03/2020 13:29:41 5 7
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85. Posted byjonny95131on 4 minutes ago Has Dyson ever made anything that works effectively, rather than just looking "cool"?. >oh grow up. Off you go and design one then instead of moaning
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26/03/2020 11:35:02 31 8
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So Tim Martin allegedly not wanting to pay his staff for time worked until the 80% compensation is up and running so he can offset some of his wage costs, yet another great British business man, always thinking of the workers.
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26/03/2020 11:35:12 16 3
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Presumably making them for cost ???
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26/03/2020 11:35:32 17 9
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If Dyson charge £300 for a hairdryer, how much will a ventilator cost?
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26/03/2020 11:35:42 11 5
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Money talks. Thats why the poor are not listened to.
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26/03/2020 11:32:11 11 4
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22. cholmes2 No its because they have the facilities to make the thousands of units needed. Current manufacturers turn out a dozen or so units a week. They physically cannot make them in the numbers required == The CEO of Rolls Royce (a remainer) says he hasn't been contacted despite having the capacity to manufacture. Why?
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26/03/2020 11:35:42 11 6
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#74 The CEO of Rolls Royce (a remainer) says he hasn't been contacted despite having the capacity to manufacture. Why? If that's true, why hasn't the CEO offered their services and manufacturing capacity to the government rather than just waiting to be asked! That's what other manufacturers seem to have done.
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26/03/2020 11:15:52 209 87
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Cue the brainwashed Momentum Marxists and their 'whataboutery' Can't you just for once give the government credit for what they are doing and what they have achieved over the last few weeks?
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26/03/2020 11:35:52 22 9
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6. Harriet Lime - The Third Woman Can't you just for once give the government credit for what they are doing and what they have achieved over the last few weeks? === Their core achievement has been to first decide to let the virus sweep the UK with prospective 500k-2.5M dead, then a delay of at least one-two weeks on lock-down, copying Italy in everything, including the errors.
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26/03/2020 11:31:40 14 16
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@24. bpmkenton "Ah, Dyson, the pro Brexiter who relocated his business to Singapore and was one of the mouthpieces for an event that has costs us over 20,000 much-needed nurses. Yep, he's a real hero" An outright lie. Dyson designs all his products in the UK and built his own technical university. He moved out the UK in 2002 BECAUSE of EU red he said. EU has cost 30,000 nurses and other jobs
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26/03/2020 11:36:03 18 4
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65. Sorry. That is total bunkum. Dysentery moved his HQ and manufacturing to the Far East because he claimed that’s where his major markets are. And as for the claim that the EU has lost us 30,000 nurses, words fail me. Even the DM has never made that claim! But leaving the EU has resulted in a lot of medical staff returning to their own countries.
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26/03/2020 11:44:47 9 3
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92 susank "leaving the EU has resulted in a lot of medical staff returning to their own countries" Because it is so ethical to poach medical staff from other (usually poorer) countries that invested in health worker training only to see the recipients move to the UK. It was a selfish (and ultimately foolish) UK govt policy to rely on imported medical staff rather than train enough ourselves.
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26/03/2020 11:31:40 14 16
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@24. bpmkenton "Ah, Dyson, the pro Brexiter who relocated his business to Singapore and was one of the mouthpieces for an event that has costs us over 20,000 much-needed nurses. Yep, he's a real hero" An outright lie. Dyson designs all his products in the UK and built his own technical university. He moved out the UK in 2002 BECAUSE of EU red he said. EU has cost 30,000 nurses and other jobs
@ 65. Posted by YouWantSome on 1 minute ago "He moved out the UK in 2002 BECAUSE of EU red he said." ---- Yes, those pesky employment laws and human rights. Children are perfectly capable of assembling vacuum cleaners! Removed
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26/03/2020 11:36:13 9 8
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By from a suspect brexiteer instead of NHS frontline staff who have collaborated with British engineers to produce ventilators. Jobs for the rich rich cronies eh.
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26/03/2020 11:12:52 67 87
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The Dyson ventilator. It'll look nice and shiny, and break as soon as someone coughs. Meanwhile, actual ventilator manufacturers in the UK are being ignored. I can only presume they don't know enough MP's.
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26/03/2020 11:36:23 6 1
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@1 Roy G Biv I've followed your commnets on here for a while. There is nothing a tory gov't can do which will please you, and you don't both to fact check before you jump yo the conclusion about the Dyson contract. Do you know if current manufaturers are working flat out & thus the Dyson contract is extra or do you have evidence they are 'being ignored'? Roy, you are
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26/03/2020 11:36:33 11 10
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Standard ventilator cost: £50K Dyson lungilator with dual cyclone technology ™ cost: £1.5M Prepare to be ripped off.
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26/03/2020 11:21:00 13 10
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I'd be more appreciative of Dyson's efforts if he hadn't moved his company and a whole lot of jobs offshore to avoid paying a moral level of tax in this country. We should be awarding companies who do the right thing, not awarding tax avoiders.
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26/03/2020 11:36:43 17 7
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Re 71: "I'd be more appreciative of Dyson's efforts if he hadn't moved his company and a whole lot of jobs offshore to avoid paying a moral level of tax in this country." Please define a moral level of income tax. Are you saying that successive governments, who set the tax rules, are immoral?
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26/03/2020 11:37:23 8 12
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Should come on line just as the main crisis is over. It was absolutely predictable that billionaire companies were the only ones that were going to get this contract, which should have been sorted out on existing designs weeks ago. Keep donating guys.
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26/03/2020 11:22:43 6 5
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I sincerely hope that they are more effective than their vacuum cleaners otherwise we're all in trouble...
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26/03/2020 11:23:43 6 1
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For the first time in 25 years i have no work