Focus on delivering, PM tells cabinet
14/02/2020 | news | politics | 6,306
Boris Johnson sets priorities for his top team, following Sajid Javid's shock resignation.
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It is forever amusing the continued painting of Dominic Cummings as this 'Boo Hiss' Pantomime villain. If anyone actually took some time to watch some of his lectures, they will be quite surprised at how very normal, sensible and long overdue his proposals are. Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide.
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1. Posted byRationalon It is forever amusing the continued painting of Dominic Cummings as this 'Boo Hiss' Pantomime villain. Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide. Not any more they don't Cummings has argument with Javid . Javid "resigns"
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1 Rational "watch some of his lectures" https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/28/boris-johnson-iq-comments "Boris Johnson was on Thursday accused of revealing his "unpleasant elitism" and insulting the low-paid of London after he controversially suggested some people will struggle to get on in life because of their low IQs." The Tory government being a counter example. :)
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1. Posted byRational Go away Dom
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@1. Posted byRationalon "Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide." --- Of course. And Sir Humphrey was 'merely a humble servant'
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1. Posted byRationalon .... painting of Dominic Cummings as this 'Boo Hiss' Pantomime villain. If anyone actually took some time to watch some of his lectures, they will be quite surprised at how very normal, sensible and long overdue his proposals are. You may think that but the point is he is unelected - the very sort of person you Brexiteers wanted to free us from!
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@1. Rational "Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide." They decide based on the information provided by those advisors. if the advice provided is incorrect or biased then how would the minister know any different. Remember Cummings was also partly responsible for the slogan of 350million to NHS so its not beyond reason that he may lie. maybe you should try and think more rationally...
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@1Rational It is forever amusing the continued painting of Dominic Cummings as this 'Boo Hiss' Pantomime villain If anyone actually took some time to watch some of his lectures, they will be quite surprised at how very normal, sensible and long overdue his proposals are Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide -- You're confusing how it should be with how it actually is. Weak PM
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1. Posted byRationalon - "It is forever amusing the continued painting of Dominic Cummings as this 'Boo Hiss' Pantomime villain. Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide." Naive in the extreme. It's not just his power that is concerning, but the fact he was not elected.
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1. Rational It is amusing the painting of Dominic Cummings as this Pantomime villain. Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide. -- Historically ... yes. Then the minister would appoint advisers ... ie Savid Javid. But that is not the case here The adviser is now appointing the minister. The puppet is now the master. Any you called the EU undemocratic! .
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"1. Posted by Rational on 3 hours ago It is forever amusing the continued painting of Dominic Cummings as this 'Boo Hiss' Pantomime villain. ... Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide. " Why then did the PM want to sack all of a Minister's advisors but keep the Minister? You coment is underminded by the reality of the last couple of days.
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1 Rational Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide. -- Stating the obvious when the minister's mind is a blank sheet of paper on the subject matter. You must understand that the thinking is that if your minister is a classics or politics, philosophy and economics graduate i.e. knowing sod all about any useful subject, he will make an unbiased decision! Cummings wants to change that!
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@1 Hope you're having a good day, Dominic.
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Nonentities replaced with other nonentities. It's going to go pear shaped pretty soon.
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2BaggiosPonytail Nonentities replaced with other nonentities. It's going to go pear shaped pretty soon. -- That is why it is important to ensure the advisors are up to the job! We are stuck with a pool of potential ministers who know little about anything so capable advisors are essential.
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Good to see a Prime Minister who realises that EU London is not the whole of the UK and that the UK has plenty of potential to regain the Greatness from the North East to the South West in fact ALL OVER our BLESSED ISLE Keep up the good work Prime Minister and Dominic Cummings and whoever else who is for the goodness of the UK The majority
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3. CrushTheEggWoke What 'good work' for 'the goodness of the UK' would that be then eh? Just one, verifiably beneficial, example will do.
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@3 "Keep up the good work Prime Minister and Dominic Cummings...for the goodness of the UK" Sorry to burst your patriotic bubble but Boris and Dom are out for only one person: themselves. One lies, meets alone with Russian ex KGB, uses offensive slurs and spuffs money like it's going out of fashion. One oversaw electoral fraud using illegally-obtained data and is the string-puller @No.10.
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3. Posted byCrushTheEggWokeon 4 hours ago Good to see a Prime Minister who realises that EU London is not the whole of the UK and that the UK has plenty of potential to regain the Greatness from the North East to the South West in fact ALL OVER our BLESSED ISLE --- What about the East - left out more than the north I'm afraid.
Let's hope they publish the Russian report now. Removed
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4. Posted by L-Gee Let's hope they publish the Russian report now --- However hard Cummings tries to rewrite it, it still reads like his impenetrable writing style with no evidence of any actual investigation.
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What does Boris Johnsons new cabinet tell you? It tells you Leavers are at the heart of government is what it tells you It tells you we are leaving without a deal if the EU does not change its tune It tells the New Quitters they should have taken Theresa May deal. It tells you the swamp has been sanitised . German economy stagnates due to weak exports
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5. Posted byPuds2on Just now "What does Boris Johnsons new cabinet tell you? It tells you Leavers are at the heart of government is what it tells you It tells you we are leaving without a deal if the EU does not change its tune2" It tells us that as per normal you are talking BS.
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It's so exciting!
Chancellor – D.Cummings Home Secretary – D.Cummings Foreign Secretary – D.Cummings Defence Secretary – D.Cummings Business Secretary - D.Cummings Education Secretary – D.Cummings Transport Secretary – D.Cummings Removed
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7. Posted by Whoa Neddy "Chancellor – D.Cummings Home Secretary – D.Cummings Foreign Secretary – D.Cummings Defence Secretary – D.Cummings Business Secretary - D.Cummings Education Secretary – D.Cummings Transport Secretary – D.Cummings " And not forgetting....... Prime Minister- D.Cummings.........
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7 Whoa Neddy Chancellor – D.Cummings Home Secretary – D.Cummings Foreign Secretary – D.Cummings Defence Secretary – D.Cummings Business Secretary - D.Cummings Education Secretary – D.Cummings Transport Secretary – D.Cummings == Soooo much salt with that order.
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@7 Beat me to it. ?? To say I'm disappointed in this reshuffle is a bit of an understatement. Yes, people who whine for the sake of their own self-interests (See Amber Rudd, Ken Clarke and Justine Greening) deserve sacking, but if you are resisting orders from the top for sound reasons like Javid was, then they should be at least listened to instead of forced into a corner.
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7: Nearly complete, Prime Minister -D.Cummings
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7. Posted byWhoa Neddyon 3 hours ago Chancellor – D.Cummings Home Secretary – D.Cummings Foreign Secretary – D.Cummings Defence Secretary – D.Cummings Business Secretary - D.Cummings Education Secretary – D.Cummings Transport Secretary – D.Cummings .... you forgot: Acting Prime Minister - D. Cummings
@Moderators: why did you remove the comment #7 Whoa Neddy? No way did it break any house rules. Is this the start of a crackdown on freedom of speech? If you have been pressured by anyone to remove it I would say that you have a DUTY to re-instate it. Removed
7 is 15.5% of 45. That means we are 84.5% more reliant upon the EU for exports than the Germans are upon the UK. Yay Brexitsums! ????????
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Arise Sir Boris, a true leader, we are in good, safe hands.
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8. Le Grande Arise Sir Boris, a true leader, we are in good, safe hands. // Oh please... https://boris-johnson-lies.com/
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8 out of the Top 10 posts don't like what's happening.. Oh dear doesn't bode to well... does it. Just blame it on the Pro BREXIT Voters. The one's with TV's in the front garden.
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Remind me again who started all these “Special Advisors” and ran his cabinet more like a presidential style that a cabinet committee ? Would that be a Mr T. Blair of the Labour party perchance?
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9 Remind me again who started all these “Special Advisors” and ran his cabinet more like a presidential style that a cabinet committee ? Would that be a Mr T. Blair of the Labour party perchance? -------- Indeed it was and Boris is looking more like Blair everyday - except he has learnt the lesson about how difficult it can be if you have a chancellor who wants your job!
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9. Posted by The Sun Is Shining In The Sky on 8 hours ago Remind me again who started all these “Special Advisors” and ran his cabinet more like a presidential style that a cabinet committee ? Would that be a Mr T. Blair of the Labour party perchance? ==== No, as per Channel 4, it was Margaret Thatcher and Alan Cummings when the shenanigans started, with strong leadership.
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So Dom can shout at the stool Pigeons and they all applaud back. What a useless bunch of yes men and chancers we have in government. Even Jez would’ve had more talent than this lot!
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10. Tooting Popular Front "Even Jez would’ve had more talent than this lot!" Hahahahahaha. Good one!
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10. Posted byTooting Popular Fronton 5 hours ago So Dom can shout at the stool Pigeons and they all applaud back. What a useless bunch of yes men and chancers we have in government. Even Jez would’ve had more talent than this lot! ER - JEZ had Seumas Milne as adviser - look where that got Labour
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A meeting of none of the talents. As somebody said on the Today programme this morning, Mr Johnson is increasingly looking like the Wizard of Oz - all front and spectacle, but with nothing behind the facade.
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11. Grahame_ Mr Johnson is increasingly looking like the Wizard of Oz - all front and spectacle, but with nothing behind the facade. // Thus it ever was. His record - or the dismal lack of one not consisting of fist-pumping and enthusiastic bluster - speaks for itself and sooner or later, we're all going to pay. Johnson doesn't do detail; it's all performance.
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11. Posted byGrahame_on 2 hours ago A meeting of none of the talents. As somebody said on the Today programme this morning, Mr Johnson is increasingly looking like the Wizard of Oz - all front and spectacle, but with nothing behind the facade. ~~~~~~~~ Or as we say in Scotland, all fur coat and no knickers.
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Who is this Dominic Cummings?
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Who cares...
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boris must be delighted he has total control over all areas of policy,he needs to work night and day to make sure all his policies are delivered,but great its a brexiteer that resigned and more will follow if they dont accept cummins new authority as the boris wingman,lots of tories will be sad this has happened as it makes them look weaker and cummins stronger,brexiteer gone what a turnaround/
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Well done Boris.
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15. Posted byBigglesworthon 2 hours ago Well done Boris. ___ Well done! Why? it is a) because he booted out someone of a different opinion or b) he followed his line manager (cummings) instruction? Well done..You dolt
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Dominic Cummings is clearly a successful adviser. Always non Conservative voters that have a negative angle. Lets see what this Government achieves. I am very optimistic.
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16. MAB Dominic Cummings is clearly a successful adviser. Always non Conservative voters that have a negative angle. == Errr, thinking back to yesterday I think Javid had a negative angle. Or does that not count? I know many conservative voters who are concerned.
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Huawei bad idea, HS2 bad idea, banning petrol and diesel cars, bad idea, NI bridge bad idea. They really are out there. How about you just run the country and change nothing to be on the safe side. The rest of us can then go about our business safe in the knowledge.
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Surrounding yourself with Yes men doesn't tend to end well...
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18. Posted by Freeman on 1 hour ago Surrounding yourself with Yes men doesn't tend to end well... === You've seen Downfall then!
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18 - Quite right look at Corbyn , Labour is one voice - Marxist !!
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18. Posted by Freeman on 2 hours ago "Surrounding yourself with Yes men doesn't tend to end well... " Actually in reality if you want to get results, move forward and get things done that's exactly what you do !
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18. Posted by Freeman on 3 hours ago Surrounding yourself with Yes men doesn't tend to end well... --- In business it is common practice when one firm takes over another to try and remove the existing staff of the taken over firm. That way the new owners can make the business what they need it to be, not what it was. I suppose this is similar. But will it work???
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18 Freeman Surrounding yourself with Yes men doesn't tend to end well... ~ Worked out fine for Stalin. Sunak presumably knew Treasury advisers were being sacked and his advice would come from Cummings's team alone. Is he really THAT spineless? If he has any integrity he will stand his ground at the outset - and quit if Fiscal policy really is created next door.
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18 Freeman Surrounding yourself with Yes men doesn't tend to end well -- If that were the case you would be right, but I have good reason to believe that is not the case! It is unfortunate that the pool of potential ministers is of such poor quality but if one ensures their advisors are disparate and free thinking then it is making the best of a bad job. That is what is happening!
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It's good that all the main posts are now taken by hard line Brexiteers. We really have taken over the World now - full steam ahead.
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Opposition has to come from within the Tory party. Like the fool he is, Johnson is letting his ego foster just that.
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No amount of shuffling will improve this bunch of clowns.
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What does Boris Johnsons new cabinet tell you? It tells you Leavers are at the heart of government is what it tells you It tells you we are leaving without a deal if the EU does not change its tune It tells the New Quitters they should have taken Theresa May deal. It tells you the swamp has been sanitised . German economy stagnates due to weak exports
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5. Posted byPuds2on Just now "What does Boris Johnsons new cabinet tell you? It tells you Leavers are at the heart of government is what it tells you It tells you we are leaving without a deal if the EU does not change its tune2" It tells us that as per normal you are talking BS.
22. Posted bydragonette Get hold of yourself loser and swallow it Removed
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What on earth is the graph of "Who has the most experience?" all about? It looks like it's been dreamed up by the same person that did the BBC housing affordability calculator thing.
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#23 - What on earth is the graph of "Who has the most experience?" all about? Pretty sure it’s there to show how spectacularly unqualified our current PM is for his position. Either that or to show how Gove is most experienced and, therefore, most likely to stab his boss in the back...
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Javid's SPADs were identified as the source of the Treasury leaks & rightly had to go. As the Beeboids were among those they were leaking to, their overreaction is no surprise.
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Its a fascist state
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25. Posted by Peter on 2 hours ago Its a fascist state ___ Don't think so, The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State—a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values—interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people.
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In the picture on the main news page that leads to this story the guy on the left looks like Humphrey from Yes Minister - does this tell us anything ?
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Remind me again who started all these “Special Advisors” and ran his cabinet more like a presidential style that a cabinet committee ? Would that be a Mr T. Blair of the Labour party perchance?
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9 Remind me again who started all these “Special Advisors” and ran his cabinet more like a presidential style that a cabinet committee ? Would that be a Mr T. Blair of the Labour party perchance? -------- Indeed it was and Boris is looking more like Blair everyday - except he has learnt the lesson about how difficult it can be if you have a chancellor who wants your job!
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. …….. hang on for a duff ride ….everything he touches turns to dust .
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It is forever amusing the continued painting of Dominic Cummings as this 'Boo Hiss' Pantomime villain. If anyone actually took some time to watch some of his lectures, they will be quite surprised at how very normal, sensible and long overdue his proposals are. Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide.
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1. Posted byRationalon It is forever amusing the continued painting of Dominic Cummings as this 'Boo Hiss' Pantomime villain. Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide. Not any more they don't Cummings has argument with Javid . Javid "resigns"
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If you have spies in the camp , you have to get rid .
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The UK has left the EU ... the UK requires a strong government with a coherent policy ... we can't afford the idiocy of the last 4 years of deliberate political obfuscation and misdirection ... the UK needs to repurpose its trading arrangements ... develop its infrastructure ... and rebalance the North South economics ... no waffling ... just get on with it ... BJ has my support
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"31. Posted bywhowrotethis The UK has left the EU ... the UK requires a strong government with a coherent policy ..." TRUE... now where are we going to find one of those? Historically business and the nation have usually muddled through despite governments, not because of them. We can only hope to repeat the trick for the next 5 years.
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31. Posted by whowrotethis on 7 hours ago The UK has left the EU ... the UK requires a strong government with a coherent policy. It’s a crying shame we don’t have a strong government. Please explain what coherent policies other than “Get Brexit Done” we have? As yet I’ve seen absolutely nothing of the sort from Johnson.
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Next step is Cummings scraping parliamentary completely
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The PM has set his stall out. Hope it pays off for all our sakes!
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Watching the news and hearing Boris saying now many new hospital now many police officer now many new buses and they were like a class of school children altogether giving Boris the answer SAD
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Un enelected bureaucrat running the country. KARMA!
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Totally agree, who cares. Only the lefties and unliberal undemocrats have an issue with Cummings. If he sorts out the Civil Service (non-political....who are you kidding) and Govt, then good luck to him. If he fails, then its his head on the block.
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It is forever amusing the continued painting of Dominic Cummings as this 'Boo Hiss' Pantomime villain. If anyone actually took some time to watch some of his lectures, they will be quite surprised at how very normal, sensible and long overdue his proposals are. Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide.
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1 Rational "watch some of his lectures" https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/28/boris-johnson-iq-comments "Boris Johnson was on Thursday accused of revealing his "unpleasant elitism" and insulting the low-paid of London after he controversially suggested some people will struggle to get on in life because of their low IQs." The Tory government being a counter example. :)
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Never really like Sajid Javid before, but he really has gone up in my opinion. It's nice to see politicians being decent. Boris could learn from him. I only hope the new cabinet are as decent, but I doubt it.
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It is forever amusing the continued painting of Dominic Cummings as this 'Boo Hiss' Pantomime villain. If anyone actually took some time to watch some of his lectures, they will be quite surprised at how very normal, sensible and long overdue his proposals are. Advisors ONLY advise and Ministers decide.
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1. Posted byRational Go away Dom
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The Politburo, lol
40 new hospitals 20,000 new bobbies 50,000 extra nurses. We won't forget.
It's time to play the music It's time to light the lights T's time to meet the Muppets on the Muppet Show tonight. Removed
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@41 It's time to play the music, It's time to light the lights, It's time to meet the Muppets on the Muppet Show tonight. And the time's definitiely right to bring back Spitting Image! The Mirror's front page today summed it up well, but I would have preferred to see DC in Harry Corbett's place with Sooty as BJ, which might have better portrayed what appears to be going on round in Cabinet.
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5. Posted byPuds2on Just now "What does Boris Johnsons new cabinet tell you? It tells you Leavers are at the heart of government is what it tells you It tells you we are leaving without a deal if the EU does not change its tune2" It tells us that as per normal you are talking BS.
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22. Posted bydragonette Get hold of yourself loser and swallow it Removed
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Dominic Cummings? Think Alistair Campbell version 2020
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"Arise Sir Boris" - said a forelock-tugging sycophant
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A government of none of the talents, a bunch of non entities bigging themselves up because all those with experience and integrity saw what was coming.
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Publish the report on Russian interference in UK. Let's see just how much Russia influences this Conservative Government. Removed
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46. Posted byGCPon 22 minutes ago Publish the report on Russian interference in UK. Let's see just how much Russia influences this Conservative Government. - None. The end.
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46 wrote Publish the report on Russian interference in UK. Let's see just how much Russia influences this Conservative Government. --- Mini-Trump is too frit. He'll always have an excuse not to. Surely it is in the public interest to know the nature of the involvement of elected MPs and Ministers with foreign states such as Russia? Don't you think Boris "Proroguer" Johnson?
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Wish he’d stop waving his arms around
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Matt Hancock has not left his job as Health Secretary. This means that, according to Conservative Party NHSMaths (tm) we have an extra Health Secretary, buringing the total number of Health Secretaries to two* *Well, they insist that this method works for nurses.
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Dragonwight-have some backbone. No change means backwards. Imagine if the Victorians had your vision.
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Who voted for these muppets? They are the ones responsible for this hideous situation, handing the reins to people who despise the electorate but are thankful for their stupidity.
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50. Posted by Bob on Just now Who voted for these muppets? = Ummm, the majority of us, or have you not been paying attention.
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50shades Another brexit bonus? Hardly as your kind are still here Mind you in all fairness if you believe Liberal people leaving our country is a good thing and a brexit bonus at least you have managed to find one bonus Trouble is you haven't named a bonus yet that is actually a bonus
50shadesofearlgrey 5930 NewMe Never need a doctor then? Just drug dealers, gang members & layabouts left behind & they won't even pick carrots! - Exactly how illiberal do you reckon a drug dealer is? and how many Liberals are prepared to pick carrots DO ME A FAVOUR --- What does this post even mean?? I think you definitely need a doctor! Removed
50 shades of grayling @ 6246 You know I pop in and out of HYS but you spend 10s of hours trolling your far right views. I hope you have a Great British Broadcasting TV license because you spend all your time on the BBC website. Goodnight. Removed
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People majority voted for the establishment to "change" and that's what Boris and his advisors are trying to achieve. Complain about it later if things go wrong instead of complaining now just for the sake of it
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51 Lee "People majority voted for the establishment to "change" " A Parliamentary majority need not be a "people's majority" ..... ... and in the case of Johnson's government it is most certainly not, a "people's majority". :)
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Agenda Item 1 Inform the EU that we are now independent and will not sign an FTA that compels us to adopt EU rules, accept the judgements of the ECJ or anything else that effectively renders the UK a colony of the EU. We are taking back control. Embittered Remainers down mark here ===>
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52. Joseph Dejacque "Inform the EU that we are now independent and will not sign an FTA that compels us to adopt EU rules, accept the judgements of the ECJ or anything else that effectively renders the UK a colony of the EU." > I thought leave has won. Why do brexiters need to keep sharing the same old lies and misrepresentations? Do they realise they have really lost and need some comfort?
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52. Posted byJoseph Dejacqueon Agenda Item 1 "Inform the EU that we are now independent and will not sign an FTA that compels us to adopt EU rules, accept the judgements of the ECJ or anything else that effectively renders the UK a colony of the EU". So why is this Gov then "copying and pasting" the laws that we have acceded to over the last 40+ years whilst a member of the EEC/EU?
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14/02/2020 11:32:26 474 154
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Why is Hypocriti Patel still in a job ??
53.I Hate RBS Why is Hypocriti Patel still in a job ?? ====== Because she's the type of person who'd stamp on a baby for a fiver. The exact character traits Tories admire Removed
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53. Posted byI Hate RBSon5 hours ago Why is Hypocriti Patel still in a job ?? - That the best you can do - call people names? Going to be a very long 5 years for you sunshine, got to love the fact we won't be having an election until late 2024 so all the remainers can carry on whining yet be impotent the whole time.
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53. Posted byI Hate RBSon 9 hours ago Why is Hypocriti Patel still in a job ?? ------------------ Because she has more talent that you and you appear to be HYS'ing when you should be working?
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14/02/2020 11:32:36 15 30
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This is just media sensationalism and loved by the haters. Johnson has said over and over that he wanted a trimmed down government. Combining advisers for both no. 10 and 11 is perfectly sensible and I imagine saves tax payer's money. I can understand Javid resigning but let's not get our knickers in a twist.
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14/02/2020 11:32:36 73 12
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Looking at the total days of experience. It doesn't look like Johnson is going to have any difficulty. In getting his way. They will do and say what ever he desires. To me that isn't democracy. From previous events. Johnson has to be held back and corrected at times.
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14/02/2020 11:32:36 140 43
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So many mugs at one table.
14/02/2020 15:37:06 7 1
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Political commentator rule #56 If a politician does nothing they are weak and hiding something If a politician does something (unlikely) they are exceeding their authority
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14/02/2020 11:32:57 14 30
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Nothing wrong with Boris running a tight ship. Just look what happened to May when she lost control, she stated one policy and ten mins later some cabinet member hit Twitter with a different one. There can only be one boss. They are free to walk if they don’t like it.
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14/02/2020 11:32:57 19 7
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Per the Beeb, Cummings the Eternal Forehead of Doom isn't mad about posh public school types. Better watch yer back, Bonzo the Complete Johnson, as should most of the cabinet. CtEFoD is in charge and he's cleverer - as well as even more deranged and right-wing - than you. Tragic that such a shower should be in office.
Brexit sucks Removed
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14/02/2020 11:33:07 36 6
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it seems that you need to have a smug grin or need to constantly smirk if you want to be a member of the cabinet.
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14/02/2020 11:33:07 14 6
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Interesting times ahead... it seems Government Policy is "Keep the North happy and we can stay in Government indefinitely"
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14/02/2020 11:33:07 30 0
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The story so far D Cummings and D Goings
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14/02/2020 11:33:07 20 22
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I’m sorry the cabinet reshuffle has upset all the life-long Tory haters. Apparently, those discarded have suddenly attained saint-like status, whereas previously they were hated with equal venom like the rest. Also, interesting that Javid advisors are hard working employees but Boris’ are unelected overlords (like Labour never had any!). Hypocrites, as usual.
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14/02/2020 11:33:17 39 10
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Reminds me of the Spitting Image sketch when the waiter asked Thatcher "what about the vegetables?" , with the answer "they will have the same as me". Only difference is that the waiter is Cummings and he is dictating what they all will have.
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64. Posted byPete Gon 5 minutes ago Only difference is that the waiter is Cummings and he is dictating what they all will have. I think of Cummings more as the bully boy Tebbit character.
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14/02/2020 11:33:17 16 7
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Glad to see the back of those that have gone. Unfortunately its a revolving door. As one incompetent leaves another arrives.
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14/02/2020 11:33:27 218 74
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A rather underwhelming cabinet.
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14/02/2020 11:33:27 24 7
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If Jesse James rearranged his gang,it would still be a bunch of selfinterest workshy bandits who exploit others.
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14/02/2020 11:33:27 81 30
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Numpties - all of them.
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14/02/2020 11:33:57 15 6
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There is no truth in the rumour that Dominic Cumming's head is to feature on the new 1st Class postage stamp.
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14/02/2020 11:33:57 10 25
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Move along, nothing to see here people its just Politics. and the BBC trying to stir it up again.
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14/02/2020 11:34:07 42 17
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This government has turned into a farce. All the decisions have already been worked out over the past week by Scummings &co. The cabinet meeting is required simply for them to know what has been decided. Is this democracy? And of course Scummings &co. have the sole franchise.
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14/02/2020 11:34:17 77 8
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With reference to the excellent spitting image sketch:- Waiter: "and the vegetables prime minister?" Johnson: "They'll have beef too"
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14/02/2020 11:34:17 14 31
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All good positive stuff. No problem whatsoever than Boris is surrounding himself with people who are on message. It is the best way to get things done. Labour can snipe all they want but perhaps better they sort themselves out if they are to become an effective opposition. They remain a shambles. This Government will move us forward positively. Get over it, all you doubters!
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14/02/2020 11:27:54 589 328
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So Dom can shout at the stool Pigeons and they all applaud back. What a useless bunch of yes men and chancers we have in government. Even Jez would’ve had more talent than this lot!
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14/02/2020 11:34:27 11 22
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10. Tooting Popular Front "Even Jez would’ve had more talent than this lot!" Hahahahahaha. Good one!
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14/02/2020 11:34:27 4 4
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Superbly educated but......
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14/02/2020 11:34:27 30 9
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Put you hands together folks, it's a new band; Boris and the yes men. Managed of course by the noteworthy Mr Dominic Cummings of no fixed qualification / mandate.
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14/02/2020 11:34:37 7 3
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Film of First Cabinet meeting - rote rehearsal of promises.
14/02/2020 17:12:54 5 1
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077.Matthew Hopkins Focus on dithering more like. Johnson could've been PM over 3 years ago but bottled it then. What's different now? The last PM lasted 12 months. I think Boris with 365 MPs behind him might last a bit longer That's not dithering. That's called thinking it though. Boris 365 Corbyn 202. The question is why didn't Labour ditch Corbyn last time he lost the election?
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14/02/2020 11:34:37 14 33
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At last Britain has a strong leader with a plan. We have been drifting with indecision for far too long. That suited the EU and the remainers, it didn't suit the majority and it was not good for the country.
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Johnson loves to give the impression that he is an affable, bumbling cove, whereas, in reality, he is, as Eddie Mair told him to his face, ‘a nasty piece of work.’ The reshuffle, like the Darius Guppy affair, shows this all too clearly - here’s a man who wants everything his own way, and he’ll do anything to get it. And he’s going to take care of us.
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14/02/2020 11:34:47 16 13
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I wonder how many of the folks crying about Dominic Cummings now were upset about Alastair Campbell's influence 20 odd years ago?
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14/02/2020 12:48:04 5 15
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80 seat majority. Live with it.
14/02/2020 15:09:11 7 14
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80 seat majority???????? Whinging is futile Keep up the good work Boris ??????
15/02/2020 10:21:25 6 6
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80 seat majority. ??
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14/02/2020 11:34:47 21 9
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Just your daily reminder that you voted for this government by a landslide back in December.
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81. Posted by Richard Sweeney on 5 minutes ago Just your daily reminder that you voted for this government by a landslide back in December. = It appears to me, it is you and your mates here who need reminding!
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14/02/2020 11:34:47 13 5
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Has Boris left a seat for Dominic to sit next to him - after all, he appears to be the PM by stealth now
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14/02/2020 11:34:58 32 7
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So then Leavers..the new CofE An ex hedge fund manager and city boy Privately educated Married to a billionaire A No Deal Brexiteer Another real man of the people who you think has the same interests as you. At what point are you finally going to realise ? Im guessing just after transition when they spit you out completely.
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Aren’t Spads an age old tradition. I seem to recall the first few episodes of Yes Minister were all about Sir Humphrey sidelining Jim Hackers Spad. Jonathan Lynn drew on his experience of working in the Civil Service I think.
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'1. Rational ... the continued painting of Dominic Cummings as ...Pantomime villain. (you might) be quite surprised at how very normal, sensible and long overdue his proposals are.' Agree 100% Rational, but, it takes a brave person to dare point that out in these wokeful times, when stating non-herd think might be classed as 'hate crime'.
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14/02/2020 11:35:18 36 8
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It's like a tea party with 30 Mr Bean's...
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14/02/2020 11:35:18 11 4
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will there be more Cummings and goings over the few months until we all bow down to the great Deomonic
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14/02/2020 11:35:18 65 11
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Yes men and a few yes women. Uk gets what it voted for - don't blame me!
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14/02/2020 11:35:18 10 29
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Arise Sir Boris. Keep up the good work.
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89. Now then young man Arise Sir Boris. Keep up the good work. --- Be sure to doff you cap to your feudal master then next time you see him.
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re 89 Rishi Sunak is the son-in-law of a billionaire. Sunak was part of a hedge fund group that launched with $700m. Sunak was an analyst for Goldman Sachs. Sunak is thought to be the richest member of the House of Commons. // and your not ... but boy you wish you were
14/02/2020 12:57:19 5 12
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re 89 Rishi Sunak is the son-in-law of a billionaire. Sunak was part of a hedge fund group that launched with $700m. Sunak was an analyst for Goldman Sachs. Sunak is thought to be the richest member of the House of Commons. So maybe he knows a bit about financial management then?
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14/02/2020 11:35:28 85 14
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My life is already s**t. Don't make it worse by making me look at a photo of Boris every day.
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14/02/2020 11:35:28 16 5
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How on God's earth has Gove and Truss been able to spend as long as they have in the Cabinet? They are 2 of the doziest politicians (along with Diane Abbott). You ask Gove a question and he gives out the Downing St phone number. You ask Truss one, and she looks like she needs to go away and look up the meaning of it.
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14/02/2020 11:35:28 22 7
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Where are the big beasts? Where are the wise old heads? This really looks like a cabinet of nobodies so Boris doesn't feel threatened
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14/02/2020 11:32:06 20 39
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People majority voted for the establishment to "change" and that's what Boris and his advisors are trying to achieve. Complain about it later if things go wrong instead of complaining now just for the sake of it
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51 Lee "People majority voted for the establishment to "change" " A Parliamentary majority need not be a "people's majority" ..... ... and in the case of Johnson's government it is most certainly not, a "people's majority". :)
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14/02/2020 11:35:48 21 31
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I think the talents in this cabinet are somewhat greater than if Mr Corbyn was unveiling his. Just a thought.
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14/02/2020 11:36:08 11 17
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Do us a favour. Kick Momentum out of your party before you say that Cummings is some sort of puppet master that is doing *everything* Your use of the term 'unelected' is retaliation for your inability to give a strong defence of the EU Commission. You lot keep losing and keep talking about conspiracy thoeries; Russia, Banks, Cummings. Keep it up! Sorry to the sane remain/Labour folk
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14/02/2020 11:41:10 23 0
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95 GreatCharacter "EU Commission." The EU commission only negotiates with government of member states and only the commission has the right to initiate EU legislation. That means national sovereignty is maintained since EU law is first negotiated with national governments at the proposal stage, and stopped nutcases like Farage from overriding national sovereignty. :)
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14/02/2020 11:36:18 16 18
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Well done, Boris Johnson and Dominic Cummings. What is the point of having a Chancellor (and advisors) who are against what the PM is proposing to do? You can't run a country with a Chancellor who is working against you. Hopefully the new Cabinet is all on the same page.
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14/02/2020 11:52:36 9 6
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96. diesel001 "Well done, Boris Johnson and Dominic Cummings. What is the point of having a Chancellor (and advisors) who are against what the PM is proposing to do? You can't run a country with a Chancellor who is working against you." If the chancellor and Whitehall's advisors are against what Boris wants to do, doesn't that at all worry you that what he wants to do is wrong?
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Agenda Item 1 Inform the EU that we are now independent and will not sign an FTA that compels us to adopt EU rules, accept the judgements of the ECJ or anything else that effectively renders the UK a colony of the EU. We are taking back control. Embittered Remainers down mark here ===>
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52. Joseph Dejacque "Inform the EU that we are now independent and will not sign an FTA that compels us to adopt EU rules, accept the judgements of the ECJ or anything else that effectively renders the UK a colony of the EU." > I thought leave has won. Why do brexiters need to keep sharing the same old lies and misrepresentations? Do they realise they have really lost and need some comfort?
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14/02/2020 11:36:18 16 20
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The Left hate Cummings , because he has wiped the floor with them twice !! The reality is he is just an adviser and could be gone tomorrow Boris obviously thinks he has some value . Ultimately Boris will be re selected or not by the general public . Something that Corbyn disregards , as he maintains leadership of Labour STILL , despite their crushing defeat .
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98 The Left hate Cummings , because he has wiped the floor with them twice !! -------- Cummings is not even a member of the Conservative Party and is thought to hold most of them - especially the ERG - in contempt. Interesting to see where he is taking all this!
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14/02/2020 11:36:28 16 6
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Shuffle ,Piffle ! Boris is having his strings pulled, Javid wouldn't wear it, and walked, Sunik is ambitious and does'nt mind being shoved around a bit, as long as he gets to wear a 'gaffers jaikit', and when the real gaffer, Cummings cracks the whip --it'll be 'how high' ! Thatcher, Blair, and a whole lot more, wouldn't let the lot of them in the front door !
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14/02/2020 11:36:28 29 7
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Thoughts and prayers this morning for Colin, gammon man stuck for an hour in Schiphol airport, complaining it's not the Brexit he voted for!! It is, you own this and the world is laughing at you Colin. Wait until next January, you ain't seen nothing yet.