Five Labour leadership hopefuls reach next round
13/01/2020 | news | politics | 4,105
Emily Thornberry gains enough support just before nominations close, but Clive Lewis withdraws.
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13/01/2020 10:27:02 494 19
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One of the consequences of Labour not acting on their problems enough before the election, is their options for a possible good leader have been greatly reduced through MP losses. In future they’ll have to learn to be more proactive when solving their problems, instead of letting a big election result do the damage first.
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13/01/2020 12:25:39 3 2
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1. Posted by BWhit480 One of the consequences of Labour not acting on their problems enough before the election, is their options for a possible good leader have been greatly reduced through MP losses. In future they’ll have to learn to be more proactive when solving their problems, instead of letting a big election result do the damage first. >>> Exactly the same is true for any party
13/01/2020 16:03:09 3 2
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1L19 Does that include the Labour plebs who voted Tory,how Labour endear themselves.
13/01/2020 17:42:23 5 1
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1 man and 4 women? Sorry Keir
13/01/2020 18:21:16 19 5
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1 mouthy northern lass, 1 Islington elite (Lagy Nugee), 1 Corbyn clone, 1 rather innocuous lady with a delightful lisp and 1 smarmy looking knight of the realm; blimey what a motley crew, take your pick out of that lot!
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13/01/2020 10:27:02 576 171
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Totally irrelevant, Labour will never form another government, ever.
13/01/2020 19:24:34 5 5
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2 wrote Totally irrelevant, Labour will never form another government, ever. --- So many Tory supporters and pro Tory posts on this HYS. For such an "irrelevant" party, you have plenty to say about them. Nothing better to do?
13/01/2020 19:45:49 2 2
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2 truther Totally irrelevant, Labour will never form another government, ever ~ Formerly I believed that everyone is entitled to their opinion. With Twitter, HYS and buffoons on social media sharing what is taken as their opinion, I have changed my mind. truther - and so many others, hewn from the same lump of dross - have not formed opinions but regurgitate what they are fed.....
13/01/2020 20:23:08 4 10
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Corbyn was an easy target for the Tory press with his past support for the IRA, USSR etc.. Labour wanting a second referendum was a disaster. Thornberry and Phillips are both Remoaners that will be fighting a battle they lost in 2016 again in 2024. Starmer could be labelled the same for wanting ref2. That leaves RLB or Nandy. Either will have a chance because Bozo will have a massive recession.
13/01/2020 22:54:08 9 20
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"I know loads of Labour voters who only didn't vote Labour because of the blocking of a no deal Brexit" And I know loads of Tory voters who, because they care about their country, strongly oppose brexit. They voted Lib Dem. Labour lost because of lies in the Express, the Sun, the Mail, etc. If brexiteers had been confident of support for brexit, they'd have put the issue to bed with Ref2.
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13/01/2020 10:28:02 600 80
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Those poor labour members.. What a choice! If I were you, I'd campaign to ALL spoil your ballot papers until they come up with a less idealistic bunch of radicals.
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Maybe it's time to end 'confrontational' politics. If your primary purpose is to get elected, and to do this you need your policies to appeal to the majority. Then all parties want to win the middle ground. So stop acting like rival gangs and work together like a company board of directors rather than two warring tribes.
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@ 4. Posted by Notime Toulouse on Just now They still don't stand a chance in hell for 10-15 years !
13/01/2020 15:03:28 12 5
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4 Women and 1 man, where's the diversity? No ethnic or gay or transgender or disabled candidates. Some serious box ticking errors gone on in the initial stages of this debacle. Why isn't Diane Abbot standing the shadow Home Sec, perhaps she struggled with the maths bit in terms of support needed. Although she was kept in the shadows during the campaign, says a lot really.
13/01/2020 15:50:59 6 3
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4 girls and 1 boy - you think Keir feels a little bit left out? almost like the remake of Derry Girls.
13/01/2020 16:14:51 9 2
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4 candidates would only lead Labour to an even bigger drubbing at an Election. Starmer/ Thornberry are Brexit betrayers whom 2m Northern Leave voters will NEVER forgive. Wrong-Daily/Phillips are hard-Left union puppets like Corbyn. Nandy could win an Election. But she'd have 5yrs of trying to overcome the Momentum thugs. Inevitable that the Labour Party will split within that time !
13/01/2020 17:20:45 12 4
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4 women and 1 man in a vicious fight to win the privilege to lose at the next general election. Might as well call it what it is - a vote for Labour is a vote for Momentum until or unless the winning candidate can do a "Kinnock" and act courageously to clear them away and restore the party to something that looks less aggressive, dismissive, parochial and out of touch.
13/01/2020 20:10:42 8 7
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4 women 1 man funny how the feminist worshiping BBC don't point out its sexist as only 1 man was selected despite there being more than 20% men who are labour mp's
14/01/2020 13:08:42 3 6
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4 females & 1 male contender. If it were the other way around wouldent Phillips be ranting, raving, shouting , insulting people, about discrimination. She rants, raves, insults about everything else!
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13/01/2020 10:28:02 247 15
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Is this the same system that saw Corbyn elected as leader?
13/01/2020 15:39:47 4 12
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5 candidates running of which only one is a man, and he's going to win. A clear case of institutionalized sexism there in the labour party. Add that to the rampant racism problem too.
13/01/2020 16:19:54 8 3
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5 contenders; 1 middleweight and 4 lightweight. Why have none of the real candidates stood; Benn, Cooper, Kinnock etc? Is it because they think Labour will find it tough to overcome an 80 seat majority? Shame, we do need a good opposition. UK governments without good opposition tend not to have a good record for good governance.
13/01/2020 16:40:55 6 5
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5 Remainers moving the deckchairs around the Good Ship Labour before it hits the iceberg. It makes no difference who wins.
13/01/2020 16:46:10 6 3
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5 reps of the middle class liberal guilt party - which is one of the constituencies that labour has to capture to win power - but what about the traditional working class - Brexit blew these 2 constituencies apart. The new leader doesn’t have to be WC but had to understand & RESPECT TWC values. Blair managed it with stuff like “tough on crime & the causes of crime” - none of these have a clue.
13/01/2020 19:36:15 8 2
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5 Turkeys hoping to avoid Christmas- Why would anyone think they could rescue a dying party?
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13/01/2020 22:20:21 14 3
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5 absolute nobodies with the possible exception of Starmer who might be promoted to lightweight.Easily the weakest RLB has already established herself as a liar at best a fantasist with tales of her dad at the docks or working as a lawyer to save the NHS both demonstrated as untrue so guess who the Corbynistas will elect? Yes little miss lefty.
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13/01/2020 10:28:22 636 33
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So the one who thinks his own MP colleagues might be racist and the one who regards the working class with contempt can’t secure support to be Labour leader. Who’d have thought!
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13/01/2020 10:28:52 320 47
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None of the Above will ever be Prime Minister of this country. When will the sensible Labour MPs stand up and be counted?
13/01/2020 16:57:54 4 4
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@7. MVS " ... When will the sensible Labour MPs stand up and be counted?" Are there any?
13/01/2020 17:03:36 8 1
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7 MVS ... When will the sensible Labour MPs stand up and be counted? -- After the next general election. This leader is a placeholder to fail at the next one (will end with a Tory government, but smaller majority), then the Labour party will need to look for a Blair-like character to win in the centre again.
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13/01/2020 10:28:52 59 19
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looks like a recruitment poster for mcdonalds
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13/01/2020 10:29:03 70 33
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The more of these losers that put there names forward the better. We wont see another labour government for at least 30 years thank god for that.If this is what brexit does for democracy go for it.
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13/01/2020 10:29:23 197 25
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All candidates have learned nothing so are unelectable.
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10. Augustus "All candidates have learned nothing so are unelectable." Yet are all elected MPs.
13/01/2020 19:34:25 11 3
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Don’t see much momentum of any of the hopefuls ever getting keys to #10 except for the tradesman entrance at the rear. Joke party joke politicians all with an absolute hatred of English people, why vote labour
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13/01/2020 10:29:23 110 302
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Labour have to get their act together. By the next election, people will be screaming out for a change. The Conservatives would have shown their true colours. Remember, Boris Johnson has delivered NOTHING as yet, only hot air. The truth will start to transpire by the end of 2020. If Thatcher is anything to go by, we'll see a divided country with a massive wealth gap between rich an poor.
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13/01/2020 12:08:00 20 2
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@11. If Thatcher is anything to go by, we'll see a divided country with a massive wealth gap between rich an poor. -------------- Thatcher also won three general elections.
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13/01/2020 10:29:23 107 19
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A caretaker leader would be best for now. None of these people are suitable PMs.
13/01/2020 18:46:30 12 2
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@12Reallity, Ass you say, a caretaker leader is a god idea when you consider the candidates. maybe Coco the clown or Mr Bean will make good leaders of the Labour party??????
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13/01/2020 10:29:23 399 33
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Do all the contenders agree to honour the result?
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13/01/2020 10:29:23 310 33
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As a Conservative voter, I hope RLB wins.
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13/01/2020 10:29:43 14 15
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As a member I was considering Long-Bailey but it's probably a bit early for her. If Starmer is sincere about being anti-austerity then he gets my vote.
According to Lewis everything is because of racism. Megan. Brexit. His lack of nominees. An obnoxious individual that should be nowhere near the leadership. Removed
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13/01/2020 10:31:54 9 2
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@16. Posted by charlieboy Pretty much my exact thoughts when I saw him over the weekend. Thank goodness it looks like he's going to fall at the first hurdle. Hopefully ET will do the same.
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13/01/2020 10:29:43 13 5
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Lisa Nandy for me.
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13/01/2020 10:30:13 33 79
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Extremely important decision for labor. There new leader will have an outstanding chance to take the party into government at the next election because the coming five years are going to be tough.
13/01/2020 19:50:22 12 3
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18 day’s left to ?? Brexit day.
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13/01/2020 10:29:23 197 25
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All candidates have learned nothing so are unelectable.
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13/01/2020 10:30:13 26 20
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10. Augustus "All candidates have learned nothing so are unelectable." Yet are all elected MPs.
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Starmer's eyes are too close together. Removed
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13/01/2020 10:28:02 42 9
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Maybe it's time to end 'confrontational' politics. If your primary purpose is to get elected, and to do this you need your policies to appeal to the majority. Then all parties want to win the middle ground. So stop acting like rival gangs and work together like a company board of directors rather than two warring tribes.
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13/01/2020 10:30:13 15 15
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@ 4. Posted by Notime Toulouse on Just now They still don't stand a chance in hell for 10-15 years !
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13/01/2020 10:30:13 76 19
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Please, Diane Abbott, it's not too late. Be the champion that Labour needs to get back on track.
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"""22. Posted by GreatCharacter on 5 hours ago Please, Diane Abbott, it's not too late. Be the champion that Labour needs to get back on track. """" She was going to stand, but she could not understand the long words or numbers on the application form.
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13/01/2020 10:30:13 253 21
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Ah Clive James who always says its racist when he does not like the result.
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13/01/2020 10:47:31 19 1
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"23. moo moo Ah Clive James who always says its racist when he does not like the result." Clive James? Maybe read through your comments before posting. You look foolish.
Clive Lewis is clearly bonkers Please let Labour vote for him He would diversify the life out of Labour and Have a Referendum on the Royal Family Corbyn was old school mad Lewis is new school absolute without a clue Removed
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@24, now we know the BBC likes Clive Lewis, lets ensure Clive Lewis is exposed... • supported Corbyn's leadership • An ex BBC News reporter • Wants a referendum on the Royals.. one that he can only lose and damage HRM. • Was staunchly anti-Brexit.. Your own voters don't like you for that 24's org comment: http://ihysdb.com/Article/Comments/51089217?orderBy=0&descending=0&BbcUserId=18072619
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All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week. They still don't get it....which is great.
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25. Sheesh "All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week." So adhering to their manifesto promises. Why would they break their manifesto promises? It's not as if their votes would make a difference in this case. Much better to be loyal to their constituents, don't you think?
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13/01/2020 10:42:39 11 21
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25 Sheesh "All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week. They still don't get it....which is great." Think they do get it, as polls indicate, despite the Tories 43.6% in the GE, that the majority of the country would vote against Boris's brexit or indeed any version of leave. https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
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25. Posted bySheesh All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week. They still don't get it....which is great. -- The do get it, the problem is YOU (and too many others) DONT get it... Labour are trying to save the country while you vote for those trying to destroy it for personal gain.
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@25. Sheesh "All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week. They still don't get it....which is great." Opposing it is fine, at least Starmer wants us to leave 'remain' behind and to fight the government on other causes which shows some progression which is nice
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#25 - "All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week. They still don't get it." Considering Boris's Brexit deal is cr@p and far worse than his predecessor's, I'd say that they do, in fact, get it. More than our current PM, in fact.
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25. Sheesh 12 hours ago "All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week. They still don't get it....which is great." Number of positive ratings for comment 25: 1031 Rate comment number 25 negatively Number of negative ratings for comment 25: 174 # # # No! Labour MP Nandy voted FOR Brexit as did her Labour constituents. She also is BIG on restoring trust.
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13/01/2020 10:30:53 180 21
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TBF.....They are all as Bad as one another! I could not see how anyome would want to vote for any of them. They are just "window dressing" what Labour proposed at the last Election. The fundamental problem is that they still think the Policies are right, and the Public are wrong, or do not understand the Policies. Unfortunately....for them at least....the Public do, and would never back them!"
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13/01/2020 10:30:53 16 44
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At least 80,000 march through Glasgow in bucketing rain in support of independence and the EU. No longer enough to tweet, as Jess Phillips did, 'We do not support Scottish independence or another referendum'. That's the party line that has taken Labour from 41 seats in Scotland to 1 in just 10 years. So, candidates; can any of you demonstrate that you give the merest monkey's about Scotland?
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13/01/2020 10:30:53 13 6
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Clive Lewis or Keir Starmer, for me. Labour have had a bit of a slingshot reaction against the 'Blairite' Centre-Left politicians and the farther left they look for a leader, the longer they'll be in opposition. Labour should campaign for regional parliaments, they have lost the argument in Scotland because of their London centric beliefs, and have done the same in the North of England
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13/01/2020 10:31:03 12 10
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The Labour MPs have made good choices so far, it's the next stage of the process where the extreme lefties take over. Goodbye Clive and Emily.
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Political parties are formed when principled and like thinking people believe they can offer the voters a viable alternative to the status quo. They set out to offer voters new solutions. When they all unite in asking the people what they want its time for a new non-confrontational model.
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13/01/2020 10:31:24 412 35
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Please vote for Rebecca 'Becky' Long-Bailey, Comrades! Regards, - A. Tory
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Will labour become electable with this shower of yesterdays politicians.
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I would be surprised if anyone other than Sir Keir Starmer won. He already has the backing of the unions and is by far the most impressive candidate.
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@33 MVP "I would be surprised if anyone other than Sir Keir Starmer won. " ~~~ Not time for a female leader then ? Cons have had two female leaders. Are the Labour Party executive and the Unions just a bunch of old mysoginists ?
According to Lewis everything is because of racism. Megan. Brexit. His lack of nominees. An obnoxious individual that should be nowhere near the leadership. Removed
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@16. Posted by charlieboy Pretty much my exact thoughts when I saw him over the weekend. Thank goodness it looks like he's going to fall at the first hurdle. Hopefully ET will do the same.
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The Tories will be rubbing their hands. None of this bunch has the charisma or intellect to turn Labour around. Long-Bailey has been anointed by McCluskey and Momentum and if she or Starmer win it will be more of the same Corbyn agenda which means oblivion for Labour.
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13/01/2020 10:32:14 21 8
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"Lisa Nandy for me." I agree that she is the only one I could ever countenance voting for tbh....so she stands no chance of being chosen of course !! Think Slimey Starmer is home and hosed tbh....
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13/01/2020 10:32:14 313 37
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What a sorry bunch of deluded no hopers.
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If they want it, they don’t deserve it. None of the above.
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Labours message comprises scrap the Lords, scale down the Monarchy, have two more referendums(Brexit and Scotland) and stay loyal to Corbyn's excellent election policies because it was the press 'that did us in guv' I can see the average family in a swing seat, grappling with a mortgage, personal pension and little time on their hands, rushing to the computer to sign up to this one
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13/01/2020 10:32:44 135 415
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Every single one are better than the Liar Johnson.
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40. Posted by Harry Lime on 2 hours ago Every single one are better than the Liar Johnson. Shouldn't it be Harry Lemon? you're far too bitter to be a lime???
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13/01/2020 18:01:23 18 11
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40. Harry Lime 7 hours ago Every single one are better than the Liar Johnson. ++++ Hahahahah, oh hahahahahah. Sorry . . . just . . . . couldn't . . . HAHAHAHAHA
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. My vote is for Rebecca Long-Bailey. Her election would virtually guarantee a Tory government for decades! It would also turn the Liberals into the main opposition party. Seriously, they need to reflect on their losses as the party lurched to the left, root out the dangerous leftists and return to midstream politics that represents the majority of those inclined to vote Labour. .
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41. Mike Solomons Seriously, they need to ... root out the dangerous leftists and return to midstream politics that represents the majority of those inclined to vote Labour. - That would almost certainly necessitate a split though, so you can see why they'd be keen to avoid that. The big picture is really not looking good for labour.
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Corbyn 2.0 or a more centre Labour Party? Time will tell
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Thornberry hilarious on Andrew Marr yesterday. She tried to defend her tweeting an image of a council house in Rochester with a white van on the drive flying two George crosses after UKIP won a by-election there by claiming "I took the picture because I used to live in a council house, and my brother is a builder and drives a white van" Comedy gold. You couldn't make it up......
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@43 "She tried to defend her tweeting an image of a council house in Rochester with a white van on the drive flying two George crosses after UKIP won a by-election there by claiming "I took the picture because I used to live in a council house, and my brother is a builder and drives a white van" Ahh yes, i do this as a reminder of when i lost my virginity, sadly the skip is no longer there...
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Keep going Labour, these unelectables will keep you out of power for a long time. When will they realise the 'loony' left and woke culture is not what people want?
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44 wrote Keep going Labour, these unelectables will keep you out of power for a long time. When will they realise the 'loony' left and woke culture is not what people want? --- You are clearly not a Labour voter and would criticise whoever stands. Meaningless post.
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@44 Pete "When will they realise the 'loony' left and woke culture is not what people want?" No, they want a racist, sexist buffoon who uses £100k of public money on someone he slept with, won't release a report on Russian interference in British politics and can't wait to sell the NHS to the Americans. ...amazing what the billionaire-owned press can make people believe, isn't it.
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All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week. They still don't get it....which is great.
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25. Sheesh "All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week." So adhering to their manifesto promises. Why would they break their manifesto promises? It's not as if their votes would make a difference in this case. Much better to be loyal to their constituents, don't you think?
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@45 Armchair Bore "All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week." So adhering to their manifesto promises. Why would they break their manifesto promises? ~~~ Totally agree. I hope Labour keep fighting against Brexit. Worked so well for them at the general election.
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@45 Armchair Bore "All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week." So adhering to their manifesto promises. Why would they break their manifesto promises? They broke them post 2017. Stood on a platform of implementing the result of the referendum, then reneged on it.
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If society as a whole needs anything, it is for politicians – of all parties – to cease the “Schoolyard Gang ” behaviour . It may seem a problem especially associate with Labour but does affect all. Politicians need to understand that they are there to serve the public, not to engage in “Gang Fights”; while this continues public trust will continue to decline and the likes of labour be degraded
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46. politicalnewsmonitor 'If society as a whole needs anything, it is for politicians – of all parties – to cease the “Schoolyard Gang ” behaviour .' Lisa Nandy and Ben Bradley (Tory MP) collaborated on an article addressing Northern issues on a cross-party basis. Also they were in broad agreement in the Newsnight interview on 17/12/2019 (though not on everything - this is politics!).
Have a Referendum on the Royal Family! Removed
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Far left, extremists, know-best-ists, never-had-a-real-job-ists, think-worst-defeat-since-1935ists was a '10/10' performance by a 'great Leader'.... 'woo' all the 1 eyed in-denialists they want, but very much a serious turn off to the population that has both eyes open. Far left, anti British, 'Resistance' fighters protesting in the park to a 70s revival beat? No thanks
Is it just me, but does Sir Keir look like he has had a suppository inserted and is not at all pleased with the consequences? Removed
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13/01/2020 10:34:15 429 14
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If Dan Jarvis was standing Labour would form a credible opposition. Having voted Labour for 36 years I can't see any of the candidates appealing to the general public. If Rebecca Long Bailey wins, Labour are finished.
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13/01/2020 10:59:27 7 9
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50 Neil "If Dan Jarvis was standing Labour would form a credible opposition" Totally agree, but am sure the tabloids would find ways to attack him. The Mail on Line has already revealed such damning findings that Keir Starmer as a child lived in a house that 'backed onto beautiful countryside' and Rebecca Long Bailey lives in a 'leafy suburb'.
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@50. Posted byNeilon If Dan Jarvis was standing Labour would form a credible opposition And if he was I would pay my £25 and join asap - primarily to save the NHS! Come on Dan - go for it - don't underestimate the support in the country for you.
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13/01/2020 10:31:24 18 10
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I would be surprised if anyone other than Sir Keir Starmer won. He already has the backing of the unions and is by far the most impressive candidate.
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@33 MVP "I would be surprised if anyone other than Sir Keir Starmer won. " ~~~ Not time for a female leader then ? Cons have had two female leaders. Are the Labour Party executive and the Unions just a bunch of old mysoginists ?
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51. Sheesh @33 MVP "I would be surprised if anyone other than Sir Keir Starmer won. " ~~~ Not time for a female leader then ? Cons have had two female leaders. # How did the last one work out? ???????? Maybe just pick the best candidate on merit and not positive discrimination.
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51Sheesh Not time for a female leader then ? Cons have had two female leaders. Are the Labour Party executive and the Unions just a bunch of old mysoginists ? - If we could truly and genuinely put aside all prejudice and chose the candidate best suited. Keir Starmer may well win, but I would hope all of the female candidates would be given high profile roles in the shadow cabinet
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@51Sheesh Not time for a female leader then ? We have had two and they both mucked it up!
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"Comedy gold. You couldn't make it up" Not as funny as her statement that Labour would negotiate a new WA deal, then campaign against it :) I wonder if she ever stops to think how ridiculous she sounds, and how stupid she makes herself look nearly every time she opens her mouth.
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52. Posted byGroovehoobon Just now Commenting on Emily Thornberry "I wonder if she ever stops to think how ridiculous she sounds, and how stupid she makes herself look nearly every time she opens her mouth". You're going to have a great time when you hear the Liar Johnson!
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Let’s be honest...Emily Thornbury and Clive Lewis are about as popular with rank and file socialist Labour members as Megan Markle is with the the 1922 committee in the Tory Party
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I'd prefer a woman leading the Labour party Tories need strong competition, others they'll become relaxed and careless Politics can also be unpredictable, if Brexit becomes a mess and the UK economy crashes, which will cause many problems The people who'll be blamed will be Boris and his colleagues, people will turn on him
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As a Conservative voter, I feel like a kid in a sweet shop. I couldn't possibly choose a favorite, they're all absolute GOLD.
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It appears, Politically speaking, that the Labour Party are still suffering from severe learning difficulties.
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56. Posted by omegaman It appears, Politically speaking, that the Labour Party are still suffering from severe learning difficulties. - I think Diane Abbot's involvement in the polls was a mistake. They still believe her figures that they've comfortably won and are going to avoid Brexit. It must be this, because hearing their deluded talk they have taken on board NOTHING about their loss.
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13/01/2020 10:36:56 7 5
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Labour and Tories need to give up their willing members to a credible centrist party, they have lurched to far the left and right. Its just a shame that none exists I am sure I will get shouted at by both the left and right for this post, which pretty much illustrates the problem
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57. Kelso. Well, I for one agree with you. I have respected politicians both to the left and right of centre, but the middle ground is a wise and safe(r) place to be. The trouble is that too many people are seduced by populism and false promises, whether of the right or left. Not to mention the facile and fraudulent "Get Brexit Done" as if leaving the EU would solve problems it never caused!
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13/01/2020 10:36:56 13 41
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It will not be long before Boris Johnson does or says something so inappropriate he has to resign. He just won't be able to help himself. The new Labour leader will be able to capitalise on this. It is inevitable.
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58 said The new Labour leader will be able to capitalise on this. ... like Corbyn capitalised on the Tory's patronising message during the election campaign? If we had an opposition worthy of the name, things could have been different...
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13/01/2020 10:36:56 38 12
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looks more like a line up for Looney Tunes rather than a line for political party leader, surely Labour cant be really this desperate be scrapping the bottom the barrel with this bunch of misfits,
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13/01/2020 10:36:56 79 225
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People won't see it now, during the Johnson Honeymoon period, but by the end of 2020, people will have to sober up. - More people having to pay for private healthcare to get treatment - The north of England getting NOTHING from the Tories - Brexit deals being nothing like Leavers wanted Johnson doesn't care. When he gets booted out, he'll just go back to "Have I Got News For You".
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13/01/2020 10:36:56 66 15
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continuity Corbyn project seems to have its wheels falling off and posh boy London leftie Starmer is about as popular with general public as Megan.
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13/01/2020 10:37:26 17 5
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Labour learning nothing. Just cannot see any of these being trusted by the "lost" labour voters.
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13/01/2020 10:37:26 4 0
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The question is, if you cannot convince voters to embrace your policies, so you change your policies, are you still the same party. If we don't have conflicting ideologies do we need a confrontational parliamentary model. You can share your views on the best policy solutions without undermining them from an opposing ideological position. Work together for middle ground solutions
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13/01/2020 10:37:37 9 1
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Anyone but Thornberry......
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13/01/2020 10:37:37 22 9
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As a devoted Tory the only one with any credibility for me is Lisa Nandy. Saw her lots on This week with Andrew Neil and Michael Portillo and she can more than hold her own. Can I therefore suggest that all Labour members get strongly behind Recca Wrong Daily ??????
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13/01/2020 10:37:37 46 7
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Emily Thornberry won't make the cut. Her pernicious tone and legal action against her colleague Jess Phillips is backfiring on her. None of these candidates can rebuild Labour. The don't have the intellect or charisma to get back the traditional Labour voters.
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13/01/2020 10:37:37 19 4
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There is more to the UK than the London bubble do any of the contenders understand that.
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13/01/2020 10:33:04 88 162
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25. Sheesh "All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week." So adhering to their manifesto promises. Why would they break their manifesto promises? It's not as if their votes would make a difference in this case. Much better to be loyal to their constituents, don't you think?
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@45 Armchair Bore "All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week." So adhering to their manifesto promises. Why would they break their manifesto promises? ~~~ Totally agree. I hope Labour keep fighting against Brexit. Worked so well for them at the general election.
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68. Sheesh "I hope Labour keep fighting against Brexit. Worked so well for them at the general election." Brexit is now irrelevant. It's the aftermath that has to be mitigated. By the time the next election comes, nobody will care who did or didn't support the Tory Brexit.
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@68. Sheesh "I hope Labour keep fighting against Brexit." So do I. 53% of the electorate voted for parties against Brexit, and a far higher % than that of young voters. So in 5 years time when more of the old xenophobes have been replaced by outward looking youngsters and Brexit has proven to be a disaster as predicted it will be a landslide for Labour.
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13/01/2020 10:37:47 8 1
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Wrong Daily went up in my estimation for actually saying we lost the election so did not win the argument. Simple common sense.
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13/01/2020 10:35:26 259 12
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"Comedy gold. You couldn't make it up" Not as funny as her statement that Labour would negotiate a new WA deal, then campaign against it :) I wonder if she ever stops to think how ridiculous she sounds, and how stupid she makes herself look nearly every time she opens her mouth.
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13/01/2020 10:38:17 14 27
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52. Posted byGroovehoobon Just now Commenting on Emily Thornberry "I wonder if she ever stops to think how ridiculous she sounds, and how stupid she makes herself look nearly every time she opens her mouth". You're going to have a great time when you hear the Liar Johnson!
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13/01/2020 10:27:27 81 5
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"I would describe myself as a socialist and I supported Jeremy from the start" Then in her ver next sentence on Sk news= "What we need to do now is stop labelling ourselves as Corbynites, as socialists, or whatever" --Long-Bailey! Unbelievable.
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13/01/2020 10:29:27 34 13
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So.....just the normal bunch of extremists, content to treat votors with contempt. No change there then.
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72. Biffo So.....just the normal bunch of extremists, content to treat votors with contempt. No change there then. # I treat many votors with contempt so can't criticise them if they did. I respect voters though.
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13/01/2020 10:29:27 12 6
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Rogues gallery.
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13/01/2020 10:31:27 46 4
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Clive Lewis and Thornberry, just NO. I hope they don't get enough votes by 14.30.
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13/01/2020 10:34:27 8 7
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A pretty poor bunch, Lisa Nandy is obsessed with the North and will alienate Labour voters in the South. When will they learn that they need to focus on the entire country
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13/01/2020 10:38:47 11 5
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Hope someone else pops up last second None of these have any chance of regaining those lost votes or seats Except maybe Nandy but the members wont vote for her and most people seem to think she is too lightweight to be pm The rest simply havent learnedcanything from their heavy defeat
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13/01/2020 10:34:15 12 17
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@33 MVP "I would be surprised if anyone other than Sir Keir Starmer won. " ~~~ Not time for a female leader then ? Cons have had two female leaders. Are the Labour Party executive and the Unions just a bunch of old mysoginists ?
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51. Sheesh @33 MVP "I would be surprised if anyone other than Sir Keir Starmer won. " ~~~ Not time for a female leader then ? Cons have had two female leaders. # How did the last one work out? ???????? Maybe just pick the best candidate on merit and not positive discrimination.
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13/01/2020 10:38:47 19 1
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Any one who is wooed by ms Thornberry or ms Long Bailey has got to be desperate. They are both thoroughly untrustworthy candidates and wriggle out of telling porkies with some whoppers The Labour Party is in dire straights if either of these ladies are on the short list. Never mind the sex . It should be best candidate and they are not !!
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13/01/2020 10:38:57 70 0
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"Are the Labour Party executive and the Unions just a bunch of old mysoginists ?" Would you rather a female become leader just because of her gender rather than anything else, or do you think it's fine to discriminate on grounds of gender? I'm sure most women would rather become leader because they deserved to - not just to fill some kind of tit for tat quota?
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@79 Groovehoob "Are the Labour Party executive and the Unions just a bunch of old mysoginists ?" Would you rather a female become leader just because of her gender rather than anything else, or do you think it's fine to discriminate on grounds of gender? ~~~ Six contenders of which only two are men....and yet we all know a woman won't get the job.
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13/01/2020 10:39:27 4 2
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I worry that Clive Lewis is a remainer, has remarked that he his not getting bored because of his colour he doesn't seem to have a good remit.
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13/01/2020 10:51:33 4 1
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80. Massive chip on his shoulder as well. 77. Being saying that forever and should be applied across society. According to the PC brigades own handbook of fairness and equality, neither can be achieved unless the PC lot accept their own demise.
13/01/2020 20:24:38 13 4
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80 seat majority, how good does that sound...??
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13/01/2020 10:39:37 15 2
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A poisoned chalice
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13/01/2020 10:39:37 22 8
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Labour leader election looks more like the Goon Show.
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13/01/2020 10:40:08 257 10
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Rebecca Wrong Daily is a shoe in as the Momentum vote will ensure her victory over Starmer. Just a repeat of the way JC got in. Until Labour either remove Momentum (impossible as it now controls the party) or another Centre Left party emerges this 'Labour' Party will continue to remain in opposition. Labour voters didn't leave the party, the party left them !
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13/01/2020 10:40:08 26 8
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They can try and woo whoever they like. None of them will ever be able to woo the electorate and the voters they have lost are not likely to return. They had better get used to being a fringe party rather like the Liberal Undemocrats
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13/01/2020 10:40:18 32 8
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Starmer is no challenger to the Tories, wholly London centric, smarmy and a bigger liar than Boris. The true people that could credibly lead Labour are Phillips and Nandy but momentum wouldn't allow it.
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13/01/2020 10:40:18 5 14
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I realise you can only vote for what is available but it is painful for a natural Labour voter like me to say that the cupboard is bare . Starmer is the most qualified but is lacking charisma . He does score highly on honesty and that is a plus in differentiating himself from Boris . Is it not time for David Milliband to give up his million a year salary and come back to provide an opposition .
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13/01/2020 10:34:15 12 17
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@33 MVP "I would be surprised if anyone other than Sir Keir Starmer won. " ~~~ Not time for a female leader then ? Cons have had two female leaders. Are the Labour Party executive and the Unions just a bunch of old mysoginists ?
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51Sheesh Not time for a female leader then ? Cons have had two female leaders. Are the Labour Party executive and the Unions just a bunch of old mysoginists ? - If we could truly and genuinely put aside all prejudice and chose the candidate best suited. Keir Starmer may well win, but I would hope all of the female candidates would be given high profile roles in the shadow cabinet
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13/01/2020 10:40:28 20 7
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Anyone but the Waynetta of Westminster, Jess Phillips.
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13/01/2020 10:40:28 14 4
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The fact that whoever wins this contest needs to cosy up to Momentum and the Trade Unions will make the winner unelectable. There needs to be a change on how a leader is selected if Labour ever hope to be in power again. Madness is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result.
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@91. conan the librarian i think the fat lady will be singing shortly -- What, Emily Thornberry Removed
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13/01/2020 10:40:48 53 5
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Unfortunately, most Labour party members seem most likely to vote for the candidate who will continue unabated with Corbyn's policies. This would of course fly in the face of the electorate's rejection of those policies only a few weeks ago. But this is what happens in a Labour party living in an idealistic echo-chamber that is disconnected from the real world outside.
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13/01/2020 10:41:08 1187 91
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"The next leader must be a woman" "The next leader must be black" "the next leader must be a northerner" "The next leader must be working class" What about the next leader being the most competent person to do the job. Which is probably none of this lot!
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93. Posted by MVS What about the next leader being the most competent person to do the job. Which is probably none of this lot! ---- Wouldn't matter who and how competent are the candidates as the Tory trolls would belittle them anyway.
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93. MVSon The next leader must be a woman The next leader must be black The next leader must be a northerner The next leader must be working class What about the next leader being the most competent person to do the job? Which is probably none of this lot! --- A great point let down by the last sentence which speaks volumes. Why would the most competent probably be "none of this lot"?
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93. Posted byMVSon 9 hours ago "The next leader must be a woman" "The next leader must be black" "the next leader must be a northerner" "The next leader must be working class" So it`ll be Kier Starmer then. ---
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13/01/2020 10:41:38 255 14
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I think whoever loses should campaign for another ballot on the basis that all the voters are knuckle-dragging no-neck racist half-wits who didn't understand what they were voting for.
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13/01/2020 10:41:58 6 1
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It doesn’t matter who you choose if you don’t give them a manifesto that can win. It needs to be clear, headlines easily explained and in detail not contradictory. It has to work for the nation and resonate with individuals.
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All of you have lost before you even begin. The country has rejected the failings of the hard left. The country turned right for a brighter future!
96. Donald Trump is God # Trump: Tax Dodger Draft Dodger Self-confessed Liar Narcissist Buffoon Admitted impeachable charges Almost certain sex offender etc. etc. God of what exactly....... The Muppets? Removed
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@45 Armchair Bore "All 6 voted against Boris's Brexit deal last week." So adhering to their manifesto promises. Why would they break their manifesto promises? ~~~ Totally agree. I hope Labour keep fighting against Brexit. Worked so well for them at the general election.
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13/01/2020 10:42:09 11 9
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68. Sheesh "I hope Labour keep fighting against Brexit. Worked so well for them at the general election." Brexit is now irrelevant. It's the aftermath that has to be mitigated. By the time the next election comes, nobody will care who did or didn't support the Tory Brexit.
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13/01/2020 10:42:09 8 6
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Labour party are in more of a panic than Boeing over their 737 situation. Labour were once a party worthy of voting for. Not any more. My local MP does not even answer his constituents emails. You cannot get no help or representation off your local Labour MP. I tactical voted Lib Dem in protest vote hoping to oust Labour as I knew Cons would not get a seat in Sheffield. 5 years of Labour rot.
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13/01/2020 10:42:19 10 4
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The lack of credibility of nearly all the potential leaders shows that the Labour Party has lost it’s way with what should be its core support. To many people from the higher echelons of the Labour Party are now from from privileged backgrounds. These people are about as disenfranchised from real labour voters as the Royal Family is from normal families.
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99. Charles "To many people from the higher echelons of the Labour Party are now from from privileged backgrounds. " So, of the ones who have already got the required support of MPs, who do you consider to be from a privileged background?
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It's going to take decades to repair the damage Corbyn and cronies have done to the Labour party, enjoy being a minor party for some time. Dan Jarvis is your man but the loony left are still in charge so it won't happen.